#Sonic Movie

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polar skiff
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Lie in wait!!!

night anvil
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I’m not saying I have all the answers, I’m just saying an anime is probably the least likely when you look at the circumstances

paper cradle
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to bring more attention to sonic in the japanese market?

obtuse lynx
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production hell! 😁

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hold onnnn

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didn’t Ian say that it was in prod he’ll

dusky garnet
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Production hell? Animes take long as fuck

spice ember
drifting mason
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Plug, quit dooming. The SxSG era is already over.

obtuse lynx
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@median marsh I need u for a sec rn bbg

dusky garnet
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Sonic X was in production since 2000

obtuse lynx
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Yup

amber mortar
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Also

paper cradle
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prime was very much meant or the american and western market

dusky garnet
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Even back then

obtuse lynx
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FUCK IT GAYS IM ON THE COPIUM

amber mortar
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Animation is cheap in japan

obtuse lynx
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ITS ANIMEEE

dusky garnet
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For a cheap ass anime

obtuse lynx
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RAHHHHHHHH

spice ember
obtuse lynx
paper cradle
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i wouldnt bet on it being a big studio though

obtuse lynx
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Ur like aigis to my makoto

night anvil
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Knuckles got delayed and was also explicitly a Movieverse project

paper cradle
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i think its TMS

dusky garnet
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?!?!?!?!?

polar skiff
polar skiff
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It is not giving TMS

obtuse lynx
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It is not giving TMS 💅💅💅

dusky garnet
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They can and they HAVE BEFORE

amber mortar
night anvil
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I think the Wade Whipple Show does, in fact, change things quite a bit, mainly in the sense of being irrelevant

dusky garnet
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oh my god why is this Plugnut-

polar skiff
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Look

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Look

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It's not anime

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Know why?

amber mortar
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TMS is already busy with sakamoto days btw

dusky garnet
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Aosth Satam OVA WERE ALL BEING DONE AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME

paper cradle
drifting mason
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Because Plug is telling us it isn't?

obtuse lynx
polar skiff
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Because it took them until the movie budget to greenlight something like Dark Beginnings

amber mortar
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Ye

paper cradle
obtuse lynx
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Explains…a lot… 😅

amber mortar
polar skiff
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They're not about to greenlight an entire anime several years before half of their shorts even aired

amber mortar
paper cradle
night anvil
dusky garnet
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Ok then what is this teasing then.

paper cradle
night anvil
polar skiff
dusky garnet
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A Sumo game? For all this time?

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Sonic Frontiers 2?

obtuse lynx
dusky garnet
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Before Frontiers was even properly shown gameplay?

paper cradle
amber mortar
night anvil
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prologues for the games were also customary at this point but Dark Beginnings is the standout. It’s CG and it has the highest production value of any of these projects

spice ember
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there is no shot in heaven frontiers 2 was planned this far in advance lmao

polar skiff
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No

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No

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No

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No

drifting mason
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Yes.

amber mortar
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Deleter wtf

night anvil
spice ember
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oh my GOOOOOOOOOD

polar skiff
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Sonic was NOT BACK right then!!!

spice ember
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look

amber mortar
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It could start planing in 2021

spice ember
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if you don't think its this

polar skiff
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It was JUST after Forces....

spice ember
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come up with an alternative

dusky garnet
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Yes

obtuse lynx
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Anime so cheap tbh

polar skiff
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Frontiers 2, duh

spice ember
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"its not anime!!" THEN WHAT IS IT TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME

obtuse lynx
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I should order one rn

drifting mason
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The only alternative is Sonic Frontiers 2.

paper cradle
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ok i did just realize this would imply its an anime written by ian....

night anvil
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frontiers was the thing to make sonic big in japan again remember

they’re not gonna greenlight an anime before frontiers

paper cradle
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probably

dusky garnet
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THEYA RE NOT GONNA FUCKING ANNOUNCE FRONTIERS 2 ON THE 30TH

polar skiff
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I ain't a bozo I know when Sonic fronteirs entered beta testing

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2019/early 2020

amber mortar
dusky garnet
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if this is an anime what do we do toc the deniers

spice ember
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another visual novel

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i would kill myself

obtuse lynx
obtuse lynx
paper cradle
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THEY ALSO WOULDNT HAVE FRONTIERS 2 CONCEPT ART OVER A YEAR BEFORE FRONTIERS 1 RELEASED

night anvil
dusky garnet
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A visual novel announced in the 30th

obtuse lynx
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You know u and i would be on the bed playing a new VN 😇

dusky garnet
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Plug you act like you are a company

amber mortar
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For it to be a simple vn

polar skiff
dusky garnet
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ITS A BIG PROJECT EVEN

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SUMO RACING GAME MY ASS

spice ember
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what if ian was just fucking with us

paper cradle
spice ember
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they would

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they put run it in the movie

dusky garnet
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Yea there is the alternative that this is nothing

amber mortar
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Bruh

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😭

paper cradle
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ITS JUST

dusky garnet
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But i refuse to think this is ANY game.

drifting mason
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What if she only exists in the movie universe and the date means nothing? Maybe that could be cool.

dusky garnet
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If its something

paper cradle
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THATS SUCH AN ANIME ANNOUNCEMENT ASS IMAGE

dusky garnet
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It is yea

night anvil
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hell not even a movie character, a movie backdrop space filler character

polar skiff
night anvil
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this is a tease

polar skiff
dusky garnet
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Also why would Ian be all hush hush about a movie character anime girl

obtuse lynx
# polar skiff

deletre what if we linked up irl and did this to each other

dusky garnet
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This is a tease

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Absolutely not to any game

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Not on the 30th

night anvil
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maybe it’s not Frontiers 2 or a Racing game but a Secret Third Thing Game

dusky garnet
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MAYBE ITS AN ANIME LIKE IT HAS BEEN BEGGED FOR FOR YEARS

paper cradle
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Also TMS is capable of doing multiple anime it's not a small studio in terms of size

polar skiff
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"They're not going to tease ___ in 2021 if it's 4 years away"

dusky garnet
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and if frontiers already came in trying to appeal as much to japan as possible
Why wouldnt they make this a big turn around for sonic in japan

night anvil
drifting mason
dusky garnet
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Japan loves prime yes yes

spice ember
paper cradle
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These are all from the last few years

spice ember
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very disappointed no one voted tsr 2

dusky garnet
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Ian has been really really just WAIT FOR IT WAIT FOR IT WAIT FOR IT

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For what

drifting mason
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H3ylow left...

night anvil
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If you’re gonna make the argument that they can’t have concept art for a game hanging around for so long the same could be said for an anime that logistically couldn’t have been greenlit before frontiers if they were considering whether or not it’d be viable

paper cradle
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(From the TMS site)

dusky garnet
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Frontiers 2 before frontiers 1 even came out

paper cradle
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OK I have a test now bye chat

dusky garnet
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Bye Nidio gl

spice ember
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hm

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its 3 in the morning

red field
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hope he's not gonna think about this too much during the test

drifting mason
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It's 5 in the morning here.

polar skiff
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Logistically it makes none of the sense

dusky garnet
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It just looks like an anime tease, sorry for just seeing that and being like huh that looks like an anime tease

spice ember
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going "exactlyyyyy" after he leaves and can't defend his position is crazy ngl

amber mortar
night anvil
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Maybe instead of an anime it’s a manga with a freaky animated teaser and the Shadow manga was just them testing the waters the entire time

amber mortar
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Oh waiiit

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Wait

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Wait

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Wait

polar skiff
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Frontiers basically finished development by 2021 and was delayed for polish, Sonic Team are notorious for starting development of their next games as the production of the first wraps up

dusky garnet
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So what do you guys think is this Powerhouse or TMS

spice ember
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hurry it up h3y i wanna go to bed

amber mortar
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Wdym "start!"

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Start as in what

polar skiff
amber mortar
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A race, a manga, an anime ?

dusky garnet
obtuse lynx
# spice ember

guys i think it’s just corn but replace the c with p

red field
amber mortar
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Oh hmm

spice ember
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i poked myself in the eye with a straw

drifting mason
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Somebody here said "start!" Is used for Anime announcements.

spice ember
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im going to bed

amber mortar
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Fair enough

obtuse lynx
amber mortar
dusky garnet
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What are examples

drifting mason
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I don't know, I'm not a nerd, Henry.

dusky garnet
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Oh god what the fuck

spice ember
night anvil
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Sonic the Hedgehog: Awakening

polar skiff
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It could be any game announcement but it can also be frontiers 2, it's not as limited as people think it is

amber mortar
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Oh my god i got so scared for a sec i thought movie 3 released dec 30 in japan but no it's dec 27

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😭

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Mhm

polar skiff
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Because Sonic Team is more of a nonstop assembly line of games than you think

night anvil
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CS2….

dusky garnet
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Found ittt

drifting mason
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Okay so, I'm on anime team for sure.

dusky garnet
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I just need an example

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Pls kit

drifting mason
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I don't know what's the inverse of copium, but I feel like some of you are on it right now.

polar skiff
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Hopium

night anvil
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hmm wait isn’t Chao Tales coming out next year

amber mortar
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I'm on anime/new app/racing game

night anvil
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what if

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perhaps

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this is

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a tease for that bup

drifting mason
amber mortar
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Nah this was already discussed

drifting mason
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You're too slow.

night anvil
dusky garnet
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A Frontiers 2 doesnt make sense cuz she was shown before frontiers had even gameplay show
A racing mobile game wouldnt warrant that kind of hype at all

amber mortar
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Yeah same

polar skiff
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I don't really take the frontiers fandom/sonic fandom's interpretation of developer comments that seriously when there is much more tongue and cheek dialog between the interviewer and interviewee, no

dusky garnet
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But then if its not an anime what could it be

amber mortar
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Dlc for shadow gens guys trust

dusky garnet
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I doubt with this style, this framing, that it is a game

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I doubt its a manga either

night anvil
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What if this is a tease for a livestream

polar skiff
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I believe him when he says that his future was up in the air, but not Sonic's

dusky garnet
night anvil
dusky garnet
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This is not frontiers 2

night anvil
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Ofc it has to be THIS shot giving me speculation trouble again im gonna shoot knuckles and that stupid hedgehog neo

drifting mason
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See guys, this is why I kept hoping pink haired lady wasn't real and was a troll. Look at the kind of discussion we've gotten ourselves into shortly after she's showed up on a billboard.

dusky garnet
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Lmfao

amber mortar
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Lmfaooo

polar skiff
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It might be! But it's also much more likely to be a follow up to frontiers than any anime project with the logistics. One of these is a game that reached beta in 2019 and was practically finished in 2021, the other is an endevor that didn't really take off until post-Frontiers

amber mortar
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This is why i love this server

dusky garnet
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Why does it LOOK LIKE THAT

amber mortar
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Sam's server ? 5 messages
Chaomix ? Same
Altheboi ? Maybe 20

Here ? 300

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Per

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Fec

dusky garnet
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That doesnt look like how a frontiers 2 would look like at all

amber mortar
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Tion

red field
dusky garnet
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Its gonna be a long month

night anvil
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Actually yeah wait

dusky garnet
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WHY DID THEY EDITED IT

polar skiff
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BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO HAVE FUN

sick coyote
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for fun

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for glory

amber mortar
night anvil
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Have we considered the artwork purely being that and not actually being a representation of the product they’re gonna reveal

dusky garnet
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WHY IS THERE A DATE

amber mortar
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😭

polar skiff
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FOR US TO WAIT FOR

night anvil
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there’s a chance the actual thing will look completely different and this is just weird concept art/custom promo artwork

dusky garnet
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whay is the project being revealed in December 30th

spice ember
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i think all of us need to go to bed

amber mortar
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New year's eve vn

dusky garnet
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No

amber mortar
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Truts

polar skiff
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It's not revealing, it's

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Starting

dusky garnet
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Go to sleep

drifting mason
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I'm on bed.

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You silly gooses.

amber mortar
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Nuh uh

polar skiff
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Silly *geese

drifting mason
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You silly persons.

night anvil
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Frontiers delay happened in 2020, yeah

polar skiff
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"It was not practically finished in 2021" cough

night anvil
dusky garnet
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The fact you guys are so against the idea this could be an anime is so baffling to me like goddamn this broad has been teased for so long just to be on a random spinoff game help

spice ember
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this broad 😭

polar skiff
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Gonna tell TSR that

night anvil
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it would take a ton of stars aligning and falling into place in order to pull this off

spice ember
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alr this stopped being fun, gn for real

dusky garnet
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Yea i gotta get back to sleep

night anvil
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mimimimimimi

amber mortar
drifting mason
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So, she's Maria's sister? Right?

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No? Okay.

red field
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me too

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if nothing happens on that date people are going to explode

drifting mason
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You better believe I am.

night anvil
drifting mason
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I'm going to combust like a dynamite.

night anvil
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it sounds fun

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well er not fun

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but pleasant

drifting mason
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??

amber mortar
polar skiff
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The islands discourse this long after Kishimoto already spoke on the matter is still bothersome tbh

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("[...] with the appearance. We decided to split up Chronos Island.")

amber mortar
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"It's boring"

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you could've juste changed the fucking color of the grass for ouranos

polar skiff
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Honestly that's what gets me abt Frontiers the most; they could have leaned into variation for the islands to take the edge off the complaints, but mostly kept them pretty basic

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Like there are areas on the islands that fit the bill

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The tree area in Ares, the hot springs or the icy areas in Chaos

amber mortar
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Yeah

polar skiff
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Obviously they wouldn't have bothered with Oranous if the change to split it up worked to begin with tho

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Most of these comments don't end up mattering to the fandom though, and the mythological fourth island is surely out there somewhere...

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Hence how everyone reacted to the terrain test map from that one developer slide

amber mortar
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Mhm

polar skiff
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Alternatively the discussion around cyberspace seems predominantly around vibes rather than what the developers stated, as well

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There can be a dozen different citations on Retro of Kishimoto and Iizuka mentioning how Cyberspace was in the initial, pre-feedback form of Frontiers, and you'd think they would prioritize developer insight of all people. But instead the conversations afterwards in the same thread continued to use just one 4chan rumor that did not include it, as the more immediate source for what stage of development they were conceptualized

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I do get not believing developers 100%, and looking for insight from leaks when the truth might be obfuscated, but not to that extent

vast inlet
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I saw your post on Retro about this, so I understand

polar skiff
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Yeah, I tried to do a proper good job for a write up, and then the immediate post followed with speculation and a "oh lmao one of deleter's quotes supports this lol" (it didn't bup )

amber mortar
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I remember when i thought

vast inlet
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me too man

amber mortar
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That the pink haired woman was gonna be the "ghost girl" mom

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Or that she was the ghost girl herself

drifting mason
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What?

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Oh right, she was teased before Frontiers released.

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You sounded crazy for a second to me.

red field
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that would be mega lame

amber mortar
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Yeah

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😭

indigo vapor
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guys is it normal if every time a word ends in ‘Ega’ I hear Eggman Nega right after

amber mortar
polar skiff
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I don't think I've ever hedged my bets on anything that actually sounds too good to be true; even the "Pink Girl is Ariem" deal was much more for the sake of crackpot theory than anything I would actually want

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Maybe that makes me unreasonably pessimistic but that's honestly my main motivation for betting against it, more than figuring out what it is for exactly

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But where is the satisfaction if I don't really care if she's for a Frontiers 2 or a RPG 😭

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The heart of the bet...

amber mortar
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At least this discussion was entertaining

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The french community was like "erm this is prolly nothing, just a troll"

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The fun police istg

drifting mason
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I sincerely don't get why people are annoyed at movie Sonic being silly.

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He's funny, charming and cute.

vast inlet
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I think it's mainly because of the more serious stuff cranked up quite a lot

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Makes the goofy quips stand out more

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Also something something trailer editing

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TF:One seemingly had a similar issue with its marketing, where they put all the obnoxious shit

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Only for the movie itself to be not that*

elder bear
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nfw this pink haired girl is back

vast inlet
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*seemingly, I haven't watched it myself

elder bear
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shes kinda baddie tho

drifting mason
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If people want or expect a fully serious Sonic movie, all I can do is laugh at them.

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I like that we can have some comedy and goofy moments with increased stakes.

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Plus he's really charming with Tails and Knuckles, I'm so looking forward to their interactions.

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They are family now.

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Like that horror movie night clip is exactly the kind of stuff I want.

amber mortar
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It's moreso like

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People expected him to become more mature ig

polar skiff
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Which had to come from a want to begin with

elder bear
polar skiff
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If he's anything like he is in 2 it should be fine

drifting mason
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He'll definitely have some good moments where he's serious.

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I think people overreact to his silly dialogue.

rugged tulip
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So let me get this straight

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The pink lady wasn’t in the first trailer, but now is in the final trailer?

amber mortar
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Yah

vast inlet
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She's in that 30-second TV spot

amber mortar
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Yeah

rugged tulip
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I'm genuinely so confused about whether or not that shoot was finished or they are fucking with us

vast inlet
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And she only shows up once, which is strange because that electric billboard shows up twice in that TV spot

vast inlet
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and the first time it shows up, it has the same picture it did in trailer 1

kind cedar
kind cedar
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Kids deserve good media too

elder bear
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true

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but thats just how marketing works i think

polar skiff
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When the kids media card is played I get split between two perspectives, that being the all-inclusive "even if some people are fine with the stuff that turns other people away, those same fans will still enjoy it when its improved upon to the broader audience's standards", but then also the "kids media is not always made for everyone, and it shouldn't be forced to conform to being made for everyone when it is being made to appeal to a child's sensibilities/literacy levels"

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The thing is though, most of the quips in question aren't really... something made in service of children 💀

dusty lotus
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WHY ARE YOU HERE!?

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WHAT THE FUCK!?

fallen harness
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The date says 12.30.24

dusty lotus
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Massive spoilers

polar skiff
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#1310830038668546080 message

dusty lotus
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Okay that I didn't knew

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My bad Kek

worldly patio
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Cant believe I woke up to pink haired girl being comfirmed real in a fucking movie Sonic tv spot

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Anyways I have been thinking about and although I dont discard the anime theory

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I believe is a game

dusty lotus
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er wait anime theory?

worldly patio
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THE next mainline game if they got Paramount to advertise it

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But

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Not Frontiers 2

worldly patio
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Honestly not impossible at all, a brand new Sonic anime is something worth enough bothering Paramount to advertise too

dusty lotus
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oh hmm. yeah I'll lean more over next main game honestly

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But I can still see an sonic anime being a possibility

worldly patio
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Yeah my gut tells me otherwise too

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But as I said its not Frontiers 2

paper cradle
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Man I thought it was funny how we were getting more obscure characters like pachacamac before amy but character from media that we still don't know about before amy is insane 😭

worldly patio
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Fr

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The gears on my brain are stsrting to spin

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Frontiers was a very risky move by sega, so who says that they didn't have a backup plan in case their first open zone game failed

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So, I believe this was meant to be the next game after frontiers if it had bombed

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Meaning, a pure boost game

polar skiff
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where does Sonic Heroes fit into all of this bup

worldly patio
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Its half of it

paper cradle
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Legit i can't see how sonic team would have SXSG, frontiers, rumble AND a new game all in development

worldly patio
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Shadow gens wouldnt have had Open Zone had Frontiers bombed

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Meaning

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More time to develop a full boost game

delicate galleon
polar skiff
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Shadow Gens started development in 2022, after the movie released

paper cradle
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I thought rumble was largely also sonic team and Rovio mainly handles microtransactions and advertising?

amber mortar
elder bear
worldly patio
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Now, does this mean this new game will have an Open Zone? Maybe, if its for end of 2025

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I do

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You dont call Paramount to advertise your small side game in their big movie

elder bear
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sonic team probably just help with some stuff the same way as superstars

polar skiff
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Only the one video

worldly patio
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Even that its still asking paramount too much imo

polar skiff
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Yeah but even the TV spot didn't edit the billboard in the same shot shown a second time

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Same as the first trailer

worldly patio
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This

elder bear
worldly patio
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They constantly go back and forth between new and old stuff

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Like they still use blue fire air shoes despite showing the latest version has them magenta-ish colored

amber mortar
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Whos to say that the billboard isn't also switching between different ads

worldly patio
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Thats also true

polar skiff
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I'm not, but I'm also not going to be surprised if they just snuck it in to one of paramount's ads

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Since that's all they really have to do to get the Sonic fandom fired up abt these teases

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SoA/Marketing

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Not for the games no

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Or anything SEGA related, if we're going by anime theory

worldly patio
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Also this was only found thanks to the google ads repository thing

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So I wonder when it was actually meant to be released

wicked hearth
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pink haired lady showing up here is crazy, considering they have few actual Sonic characters

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I was about to say that, but I don't want to do that every time a character shows up before Amy as wild as it is

worldly patio
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Looking foward to see deranged amy fans on twitter become even more deranged if Rouge somehow shows up before amy

amber mortar
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Flirting

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Vs

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Harassment

worldly patio
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Water is wet mischief

amber mortar
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Erm no

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It makes things wet

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🙄

worldly patio
amber mortar
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L

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Casual

polar skiff
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no way you say that as I'm watching naruto lmaoooo

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"water isn't wet, it makes things wet" or smnth I forget

amber mortar
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I'm inside your walls

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That's how i know

elder bear
median sequoia
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Commander boutta crash out

tacit apex
worldly patio
tacit apex
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With those missiles heading towards them, They would need to do a quicksilver scene to redirect those missiles and save everyone at the restaurant

polar skiff
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Emulate the games and have all the humans run away at the last possible second, even in the face of widespread, impossible-to-avoid destruction bup

vast inlet
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or just blow them up

polar skiff
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only GUN is allowed to do that yup

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Never Eggman...

amber mortar
red field
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a couple extended sequences but mostly a reshuffle of stuff we saw already

viral mortar
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she kinda bad

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bye

amber mortar
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The french community

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Or at least, the server i'm in

viral mortar
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can't wait for the new 2D animated show that's been in the works since 2021 to get revealed on December 20th (manifesting)

rugged tulip
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I doubt this is for a new animated series

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or even the comics at this point

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It has to be related to a game that we have no idea about

median sequoia
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Definitely drawn by tyson tho

viral mortar
rugged tulip
viral mortar
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Yuji Uekawa did the original art for her

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we don't really know how Tyson draws sonic styled humans

median sequoia
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I mostly can tell because of the bold white highlights

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I don't think he created her

rugged tulip
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I think its Tyson since he is directly involved with the movies

median sequoia
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Ye, in this particular case I think it's tyson who made the art on the billboard

viral mortar
viral mortar
rugged tulip
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Maybe he tried to emulate Karasuno’s art style for this particular character. I mean, Evan Stanley did that too for Gerald’s journals in Shadow Gens

viral mortar
#

?

elder bear
#

i mean stanley really tried to copy karasuno style for gerald journal

viral mortar
#

oh that's what he meant

rugged tulip
#

I'm genuinely starting to think she might be new a character in the next mainline Sonic game

#

Would that be a stretch?

worldly patio
#

Nope

viral mortar
#

idk I think it has to do with a show

kind cedar
#

Would be a cool looking avatar for the end ngl

worldly patio
#

I dont discard the anime idea

#

But my instinct says game

kind cedar
ashen flower
#

cannot belive we're in the Pink Hair Lady stage of Sonic now, it's so real

red field
#

wow

rugged tulip
#

Yeah

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You didn't know?

#

I can’t blame you to be fair

worldly patio
#

Didn't know either

rugged tulip
#

She did a excellent job

amber mortar
#

Hold on

worldly patio
#

Pretty good job honestly

echo ravine
#

Genuinely who the hell is this woman
That they're so secretive about her to the point of teasing her years early in a blink-and-you'll miss it segment of TailsTube and the background of THE MOVIE WITH KEANU REEVES

rugged tulip
#

I have no idea at this point

echo ravine
#

She's beautiful though

ashen flower
#

frontiers anime..

worldly patio
#

I want to think she is a Robotnik

dusty lotus
#

It's just so crazy to see she somehow appeared

amber mortar
worldly patio
#

Not Marias's sis, but maybe her niece

amber mortar
#

The sketch

echo ravine
rugged tulip
#

It would be such a strange way to tease a new Sonic anime if this is the case

amber mortar
#

They def have more "volume"

rugged tulip
#

I doubt it though

ashen flower
#

if they were doing an anime, I really wonder who they got for it working

viral mortar
#

why did I type only twice.

amber mortar
#

Nah

#

Tms is busy rn

#

They're working on sakamoto days

#

But- if the anime is for 2026 then maybe

worldly patio
amber mortar
#

Or maybe 2027 depending on multiple factors

viral mortar
#

magenta haired girl was shown in early 2022 hmm

#

the show probably started in 2021

ashen flower
#

was TMS busy at the time?

rugged tulip
#

Once again, this current era of Sonic is just begging for a new anime

ashen flower
#

it's never not time for a new anime

rugged tulip
#

and being consistently good unlike Sonic X

paper cradle
#

I think they currently have a show airing, and Sakamoto days is also releasing soon iirc?

#

So it's not impossible for them to have multiple projects at once

rugged tulip
#

Compared to over half a decade ago

dusty lotus
#

If we are getting a sonic anime how will it be handled?

rugged tulip
#

Where I just couldn't see them do a Sonic anime during the 2010s unless it was very silly, I guess

dusty lotus
#

WIll be getting an IDW Adaptation or it's own thing?

paper cradle
rugged tulip
#

I hope the latter

ashen flower
dusty lotus
#

Depends on the writer

#

But the lore team needs to be heavily involved

rugged tulip
#

I want them to make an original story that is very respectful of the source material

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Like the recent shorts

rugged tulip
#

The blueprint is right there

amber mortar
#

Techniczlly

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That's fuschia

#

🤓

viral mortar
#

ight.

amber mortar
#

Get ur shit right next time ManiaGun

rugged tulip
#

To be fair, their ideas for her back in 2022 could be changed at this point

amber mortar
#

Or else

viral mortar
#

W magenta haired girl

amber mortar
ashen flower
#

funny how some gave up thinking she mattered much
and then suddenly fucking movie 3 of all places

amber mortar
dusty lotus
#

SEGA really gives no fuck

#

SEGA can just casually show something no one ever expect LMAO

median sequoia
#

I don't think it's an anime tbh

ashen flower
#

"ah nah she was def scrapped"

dusty lotus
#

"Are we going to have 1:1 Adaptation?"
SEGA: No have Gerald being alive
"Amy, Silver, Rouge, Metal Sonic next!?"
SEGA: lol nope have the purple haired girl being cameo
Audience: WTFFFFFF!?

echo ravine
dusty lotus
#

Like this fucking company is really something

#

But yeah there is a very good chance we'll actually see her much sooner

median sequoia
viral mortar
#

actually doesn't Tyson work on the tailstube's too

dusty lotus
#

But my guess is the next sonic game next year

rugged tulip
#

I just had no clue at this point when she would appear, but the last thing that I was expecting was another tease in a blockbuster movie

#

Like what

median sequoia
viral mortar
#

it makes senseeeee

ashen flower
dusty lotus
#

But if she does appear......

#

My guess is that she'll be a researcher

amber mortar
ashen flower
#

how do I make this about gizoids

dusty lotus
#

Considering her outfit and all could be like learning the ancients, gerald'd journal, gizoids, angel island, etc.

#

Like essentially wanting to know more about sonic's world

median sequoia
paper cradle
amber mortar
#

Maybz yes

#

3 years for an anime

#

Is a lot

#

😭

dusty lotus
#

But yeah I can legit see a sonic anime, but at least another 25 episode and such

rugged tulip
#

Also, correct me here

amber mortar
#

Didn't know there was an uncorrect you

ashen flower
amber mortar
#

Honestly idk

#

If sega were to make another sonic animz

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Imo it'd be a 25 ep one shot

median sequoia
#

Then I'd be very surprised that they'd give it a greenlight before frontiers drop & reception in Japan.

Considering X wasn't inherently the strongest in its home country. But anime appealing/focused towards the west isn't impossible either, so anything is plausible

rugged tulip
#

But don’t they normally announce new anime stuff to be in production right away before we have to wait a year or so?

paper cradle
#

So they had finished character designs as early as 2 years and 7 months ago

dusty lotus
#

Essentially what I said earlier h3ylow lmao

ashen flower
dusty lotus
#

I don't think sonic will even get something like Pokemon because no other video game adaptations are like that

ashen flower
#

but yea I don't expect anything too long

dusty lotus
#

Which honestly is fine

#

Quality is more important

ashen flower
#

unless netflix enters the equation which would mean it's long for the wrong reasons

amber mortar
dusty lotus
#

netflix ICANT

rugged tulip
amber mortar
#

Like daima for example

#

Had already been in prod for 2 years

drifting mason
paper cradle
#

Wouldn't be surprised if generally the team is comprised of mostly the same members as the superstars cutscenes

dusty lotus
#

Same

#

I feel like superstars cutscene work natural for a sonic anime

median sequoia
#

I'm mostly gonna be surprised if info about this hasn't leaked if they drop a reveal of an actual anime

amber mortar
dusty lotus
#

Obviously yeah, but I can see a much bigger team than just superstar for a sonic anime

paper cradle
#

Directors and stuff

dusty lotus
#

Now the real question I'll say this

#

Outside of the game chars, you'll think they'll use other chars?

rugged tulip
#

A good writer would be nice to have too because Iizuka ain’t it in my opinion

dusty lotus
#

Like the IDW chars,a nd such?

median sequoia
#

Always wanted studio orange for a sonic anime tbh.
Not the common suggestion, but I think they could do it.

rugged tulip
#

Since he is credited to have written the story of Superstars

dusty lotus
#

What did studio orange worked on btw?

dusty lotus
rugged tulip
#

Iizuka as a Sonic writer has good ideas for Sonic stories, but when he has to put this all together himself, the results left me confused….

#

Both with Superstars and Shadow 05

median sequoia
dusty lotus
#

oh right I forgot he did shado 05 too LMAO

dusty lotus
#

Nah I am 100% board with this

rugged tulip
#

He also did Rivals apparently

dusty lotus
#

I watched trigun stampede and it's goated

rugged tulip
#

Somebody told me that recently and I was like

#

“That explains a lot”

amber mortar
amber mortar
#

But honestly i hope we don't get a studio like orange

dusty lotus
#

Then yeah studio orange I will say work very well for sonic

#

.....oh right

amber mortar
#

Mostly beastars

#

Season 3 part 1 drops soon

#

And part 2 at the start of 2025

paper cradle
amber mortar
#

Also they have land of the lustrous to go back to

dusty lotus
#

Can easily do either post forces or post frontiers really

#

Since they are the most recent sonic wise

amber mortar
#

But nvm this, a 3d anime would completely defeat the purpose of choosing a japanese anim studio

#
  • the japanese audience would care even less
paper cradle
#

The director for the superstars cutscenes, Toshihiko Masuda, seems to have pretty consistent animation credits until 2022

dusty lotus
#

I feel like it.. depends over 3D anime

#

but for sonic yeah

amber mortar
#

If 3d isn't popular there's a reason

paper cradle
#

(Though he storyboarded on 1 show that released in 2023)

median sequoia
#

Either way, sonic anime probably isn't moving mountains over in Japan.

It has a slight advantage in a post frontiers world, but not by a large margin.

paper cradle
#

But like, production schedule wise, it really lines up

amber mortar
paper cradle
amber mortar
#

For example : people hated the fact that csm was animated in 3d in the csm anime

#

By people i mean western and japanese fans alike

dusty lotus
#

oh yeah I do remember people were complaining hard over it

amber mortar
#

So 3d is a no go

#

Full 3d

dusty lotus
#

Yeah fair enough

#

A 2D Sonic anime will be more preferable

#

Outside of well.... mechs

amber mortar
#

Mech would be done in 3d

#

Most probably

dusty lotus
#

Yeah they have to be done in 3D regardless

paper cradle
dusty lotus
#

o/

amber mortar
#

But superstars intro was subpar

#

His job is to assure control quality

#

Over everything

#

So erm

paper cradle
#

Sure but like

#

You can tell they made that with 2$ and a dream

amber mortar
#

Yes of course

#

But that doesn't excuse him not seeing the problems with sonic's clones

echo ravine
#

Like her sister had a kid and that's this woman

paper cradle
#

Listen like half of the directing staff here animated on akira

dusty lotus
#

leaning more over sister yeah

#

I feel like for superstar case the issue also lies in budget

echo ravine
#

We know one of Gerald's sons was into archeology, my bet is that that son was Maria's father, they had the sister, and the sister had this lady

#

After all Abe looks pretty old, I think if it was her sister she'd probably be a granny

#

But between the small human cast and Gizoid-like dress...

worldly patio
#

Im onboard with the Niece theory too

echo ravine
#

I've connected the dots

paper cradle
#

(According to Sakugabooru at least)

echo ravine
#

Ah, Akira, I made it to All-State with you

#

Good times, good times

paper cradle
#

Like, almost 4 decades ago

#

So I do legit just think they didn't have time to fix that wrong hand

#

But they prob were aware

amber mortar
#

Well that's assuming bro didn't have a glow down like db's yamamuro

paper cradle
#

You don't forget animation principles man 😭

amber mortar
#

No

#

I'm just saying you could become less good because of fatigue

paper cradle
#

Timing in the superstars intro looks all wrong, and that's one of the main things that can take the longest to figure out on a shot

amber mortar
paper cradle
#

I mean tbf it's def possible inbetweens were done by newbies

#

Might check later

#

But

#

Regardless a person who worked on a shot like that could make a polished anime if given more time and money

#

Also hiroaki noguchi was like by far the best animation director on sonic x

dusty lotus
#

essentially yeah

amber mortar
#

Sonic x is really

#

It's 11:59 and the assignement is due for midnight typa shit

amber mortar
#

Already a flop before it even aired if so

ashen flower
#

same, i think i'll just cut my losses and read the manga a this point but man do I wanna hear and see it too 😭

paper cradle
#

Just in japan

dusky garnet
#

Good morning

#

Sonic anime incoming :)

amber mortar
paper cradle
#

But like, sonic x was pretty damn big internationally

ashen flower
paper cradle
#

Also I brought up sonic x just bc you said he should notice the issues with the sonic clones

#

Bc like

dusty lotus
#

I will say nowadays a sonic anime will do remarkably better than back then

amber mortar
#

As i said, why bother with 3d which most anime fans don't like anyway

paper cradle
#

The episodes he directed have some good ass sonics

dusty lotus
#

Since we are at that point where anime is huge towards international

amber mortar
#

Missread of the potential audience

paper cradle
#

Like, by far the closest to uekawa art

amber mortar
#

It's been a while since i last saw sonic x

#
  • back then i didn't check credits
dusky garnet
#

Sonic 2025 is gonna look at 2024 and say aight bet

amber mortar
#

With the movie that's gonna be hard

dusty lotus
#

Yeah I feel like we shouldn't underestimate SEGA anymore lmao

ashen flower
#

hope that's the pattern

#

of nothing but "aight bet"

dusty lotus
#

SEGA just gave no fuck and do what they want this year lmao

dusky garnet
#

The movie is still gonna like, have so much influence

dusty lotus
#

oh 100%

#

Especially with shadow

#

This helps a lot with Knuckles

#

Shadow will be no different either

dusky garnet
#

An anime finally, a full anime

dusty lotus
#

But real talk after with sonic 3 movie

dusky garnet
#

You guys better hope its an accesible form lol

dusty lotus
#

I get the feeling they'll think more idea over Shadow not rely on chaos emeralds anymore

amber mortar
#

We're still not sure but yeah if it's an anime we're so back

paper cradle
ashen flower
paper cradle
#

I really think it depends on how much time they had working on this

#

(If it's TMS)

next wedge
#

So in the end

#

Pink hair lady was just movie bait

paper cradle
#

If it only took this long because production of it was sandwiched between other anime, it might still look like that superstars intro

paper cradle
ashen flower
#

NUHHH

#

this ride never ends

#

I won't let it

paper cradle
# amber mortar Joever

OK BUT AT LEAST THE FEW DIRECTORIAL STAFF I CHECKED, DIDNT HAVE ANY NEW ANIME CREDITS SINCE LIKE 2022

amber mortar
#

🙏

paper cradle
#

(From superstars)

dusky garnet
#

... i rather have supwrstars quality than be a 3d series again

#

There

amber mortar
#

Well i mean

dusky garnet
#

I said it

#

Kill me

amber mortar
#

Sd is here

#

😭

dusty lotus
#

Nah hard agreed henry

obtuse lynx
#

okay guys

amber mortar
#

So maybe

obtuse lynx
#

what if

dusty lotus
#

I feel like the idea with superstars worked

obtuse lynx
#

it was another studio!

dusty lotus
#

It just needs well..... more budget

amber mortar
#

Time* time is more important

dusty lotus
#

Time especially yeah

paper cradle
#

I mean if they manage to make a full length 3D series that's as good as dark beginnings I would not be complaining but also that's not happening

ashen flower
dusky garnet
#

I just dont really care anymore about ANYTHING 3D

amber mortar
#

Dear god not 3d PLEASE

obtuse lynx
# obtuse lynx it was another studio!

like if it’s gonna turn out like superstars, the I’d rather have it be done by powerhouse or giggex atp because i can at least expect some quality

paper cradle
#

Damn would yall really not want full length dark beginnings if it was a thing

ashen flower
#

I won't mind 3D cel shaded but it would need to be as good as the new trigun

dusky garnet
#

I really think boom and prime are examples of how 3d animation can be so fucking limiting cuz you have to base the stories on what fucking ASSETS YOU HAVE

paper cradle
#

Dang

amber mortar
dusky garnet
#

Not really i rather have 2d as a whole

dusty lotus
#

Dark Beginning is great, but I rather have a 2D Anime

amber mortar
#

Sorry 3D artist nidio

paper cradle
#

Regardless i really doubt this will be 3D

ashen flower
#

but yea i don't want anything like Prime again
it was fine now it's over, we need more 2D in this Sonic ClassicSonic

fallen harness
paper cradle
#

Marza too busy with movies for this prob

dusty lotus
#

SEGA is the next Square Enix

amber mortar
#

Marza too expensive anyway

#

They are a movie studio

paper cradle
#

And the SXSG:DB studio is relatively really small, wouldn't be able to do full episodes I think

paper cradle
night anvil
paper cradle
#

There's a show on Netflix animated by them

#

Just smaller scale stuff

#

But idk man they wouldnt have 2 3D animated shows in production at the same time

#

Just kinda doesn't make much sense

amber mortar
#

Yeah

#

(W)

dusty lotus
#

I'll say what helps is the timing

#

Where Sonic is b ecoming even bigger than it already was

#

If a Sonic anime is a thing, it'll get far better attention compared to Sonic X

dusky garnet
#

Ok ok now hypothesis

#

If this goddamn pink hair girl is a character kn an anime

paper cradle
#

But like timing on all the main superstars staff suspiciously lines up man I'm kinda convinced it's them

dusky garnet
#

What are your guesses

#

Is she gonna be relevant

dusty lotus
#

I already said mine

#

I'll repeat again

paper cradle
#

Ig it could be like

ashen flower
amber mortar
dusky garnet
#

Is she like a main character whos a human

paper cradle
#

Lupin part 7 and I got too deep into it 😭

ashen flower
#

definitely a supporting role

#

probably not villain

dusty lotus
#

#1309321420886769705 message

dusky garnet
#

Uncle Chuck makes sense

dusty lotus
#

Over what I see from the girl

#

I am leaning more over her being a researcher about Sonic's world

#

While she is very interested wanting to know about Sonic himself

paper cradle
#

(6 released in 2021)

ashen flower
#

I kinda can't stop thinking of her maybe being sorta related to Eggman's family

amber mortar
#

Studio ghibli on the anime guys #trust

dusky garnet
ashen flower
dusky garnet
#

Maybe she could be like, the researcher part of the family

dusty lotus
#

Honestly if she is a robotnik she can easily be a polar opposite to eggman

ashen flower
#

yea

#

like it's a bit narrow minded and all but idk the clothes are kinda throwing me off is all

paper cradle
#

Didn't see any of them on lupin zero which is from late 2022/early 2023

#

So that also lines up

night anvil
#

An Eggman connection would be obvious but it’d be fine

however, one of the people who worked on Shadow Gens says that they became more interested in exploring Eggman’s family tree recently, yeah? that might imply that the pink haired girl is seperate

amber mortar
#

They could be working on sd nidio

dusty lotus
#

I'll be very happy if we get to know more about eggman family

dusky garnet
#

But also kinda jungle explorer like

dusty lotus
#

Especially after with SXSG

#

To me it's the best way to get to know more about eggman

ashen flower
dusty lotus
#

Exactly

ashen flower
#

jungle wouldn't be out of place for her yea

dusty lotus
#

It'll give her massive interest over wanting to know about Knuckles and Shadow

#

Considering both of their history

paper cradle
#

Idk

#

Yeah that's possible

amber mortar
#

That's the so far staff that we know is working on sd

paper cradle
#

I'll try to compare this to superstars jn 5 Mins when I'm home

#

Looking this up on my phone takes so much longer than my PC

dusky garnet
#

She looks like she could be maybe lara croft like ig

#

Easy example

amber mortar
dusty lotus
#

Honestly yeah henry

#

Her being this series version of lara croft will be great

ashen flower
dusky garnet
#

Maybe less gunny but like, actually exploring sonics world and stuff and being like, actually a decent way to do some like, lore building in sonics world idk

dusty lotus
#

Again what I said earlier

#

I feel like it'll be a great way to utilize her while knowing more about Sonic's world

ashen flower
#

it'd be cool if she filled a role like Gerald but obviously didn't become destructive, just someone to carry his curiosity in the world within Sonic's

paper cradle
#

not checking sound ppl bc i dont think thats super relevant

worldly patio
#

Like omochao but for lore

ashen flower
paper cradle
worldly patio
#

Her being a normally mature aloof character that goes from 0 to 100 whenever ancient cultures are mentioned into a quirky facts machine would be nice gap moe bup

paper cradle
#

and barely any of these guys have any video game credits so its not like its a special video game cutscene team or smth

#

though toshihiko masuda, the director, DID storyboard uh

#

balan wonderworld

dusky garnet
dusky garnet
paper cradle
#

he worked on anime and stuff lmao

worldly patio
paper cradle
#

according the comment

#

0:00 - 0:06 Toshihiko Masuda
0:07 - 0:09 Takashi Hashimoto
0:10 - End Masuda

#

and he also directed the superstars intro so again uh, i really wouldnt judge any of the staff based on that intro

#

lemme look through superstars key animators, so far only looked through the director/storyboard/episode direction/animation director credits

#

so toshihiko masuda (Director), Daisuke Sako (Episode direction), and Hiroaki Noguchi (Animation director) all worked as key animators

#

Shinpei Sawa is another key animator, has a lot of credits before 2022, in 2022 was a key animator on chainsaw man and then has no credits until "The Colors Within" which released in august this year

#

he worked on a lot of really good looking stuff though

#

A Silent Voice, Violet Evergarden, Suzume

dusky garnet
#

Snort

paper cradle
#

Kanako Maru is the last key animator, worked on a lot of stuff until 2022, no credits since then

vast inlet
#

hate to see it

median sequoia
#

Friend of mine speculated something that is probably very true, looking at the pieces laid down in the recent trailer & TV spot.

amber mortar
#

This is crazy

median sequoia
amber mortar
#

Thr first part is worth what

#

A 3

#

Maybe a 4

vast inlet
paper cradle
#

but yeah all of the key animators have no work since 2022, other than Shinpei Sawa animating on 1 movie that released in august, Toshihiko Masuda storyboarding My Clueless First Friend (2023) and Daisuke Sakô animating on Spy x Family Code: White (movie, 2023)

#

so like, three of them worked on maybe 1 shorter series or film that released in the last 2 years

#

and two of them on nothing at all

#

(other than superstars)

#

IM JUST

#

SAYING

#

IT LINES UP MOSTLY

median sequoia
worldly patio
#

Ohhh

#

Yeah thats quite possible now that you mention it

dusky garnet
#

I doubt they ARENT in the movie

#

But they could be disgusing themselves as them

#

For sure

dusty lotus
#

That's what I expect also

median sequoia
#

They might come in passing/mention beforehand, but I don't think they'll be in the thick of it.

dusky garnet
#

I dont see the reason to think that

median sequoia
#

You got an idea on what they could do?

#

If they were vital?

paper cradle
#

OK nvm ignore all my ramblings above IMDB just doesn't have up to date credits on recent anime it seems 😭

dusky garnet
#

They are gun agents ig maybe they could help out at the end

paper cradle
median sequoia
#

I feel like if that were the case they wouldn't need to sneak in in the first place

dusty lotus
#

I am sure they can

#

But mainly over Gerald

#

Remember GUN essentially disguise themselves as guest for the wedding

median sequoia
#

Yeah I'm sticking with this being the only exposure of Rachel & Randall of the movie for the moment.

Can't think of anything firm solid to think they'll come in real clutch.

#

Cause in the same sequence we can see the HQ is falling apart at some point.

#

So somebody fucked up lol

amber mortar
# median sequoia

Bruhhh, they understodd the assignement and realise that nobody gaf about the wedding

#

🥹

dusty lotus
#

No fucking way

#

All that for... this?

paper cradle
#

nuuh

dusty lotus
#

Nah I don't think so

paper cradle
#

it has a date

#

its clearly teasing something

#

12.30.24

dusty lotus
#

It's either a Sonic anime or a new sonic game

#

.....wait I just realize

#

THAT'S NEARLY THE END OF 2024!

#

SEGA wtf!? LMFAO

paper cradle
#

yeah half of this chat (though mostly me lmao) have been going crazy bc we've all kinda come to the conclusion that its not impossible for that to be an anime

dusty lotus
#

It's for sure either of the two but still

#

I am so baffled a fucking char in a concept art get tease in a sonic movie

#

Like that is insane build up right there

paper cradle
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and im driving myself further into insanity bc im looking at credits of TMS staff that worked on the sonic superstars intro bc i think they kinda line up with a new anime being made by them

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The timing is just too coincidental now for a sonic anime

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Wouldn't be the first time they did something right before the year ends. They released Adventure 2 on December 30th after all

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lmao

dusty lotus
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oh yeah

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......wait

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That's since SA2 too!

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bruh

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SEGA pulling big brains shit right there LMAO

fallen harness
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I’m still wondering what the date means on the pink hair lady