#Sonic Movie
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I’m not saying I have all the answers, I’m just saying an anime is probably the least likely when you look at the circumstances
to bring more attention to sonic in the japanese market?
Production hell? Animes take long as fuck
ok but what do you think it is 😭
Plug, quit dooming. The SxSG era is already over.
@median marsh I need u for a sec rn bbg
Sonic X was in production since 2000
Yup
prime was very much meant or the american and western market
Even back then
FUCK IT GAYS IM ON THE COPIUM
Animation is cheap in japan
ITS ANIMEEE
For a cheap ass anime
RAHHHHHHHH
erm
Fizzy join me…
i wouldnt bet on it being a big studio though
Ur like aigis to my makoto
Knuckles got delayed and was also explicitly a Movieverse project
i think its TMS
?!?!?!?!?

It is not giving TMS
It is not giving TMS 💅💅💅
They can and they HAVE BEFORE
Wtf spectre 😧
I think the Wade Whipple Show does, in fact, change things quite a bit, mainly in the sense of being irrelevant
oh my god why is this Plugnut-
Aosth Satam OVA WERE ALL BEING DONE AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME
idk if TMS really has a house style?
Because Plug is telling us it isn't?
Wait they’re doing that???
Because it took them until the movie budget to greenlight something like Dark Beginnings
Ye
yeah
Explains…a lot… 😅
They're not about to greenlight an entire anime several years before half of their shorts even aired
You haven't even watched the trailer why you be lying like that
what about the frontiers prologue though
Which means something like an anime focusing on the Pink Haired Girl as a significant character, that would’ve gotten picked up recently
not FOB from Movie 2 being out for a few days, and especially not after having a finished design
Ok then what is this teasing then.
that def started production in 2021 too
there’s a good point there in it having a higher production value, but that goes for Trio of Trouble as well and nobody cared about that
That technically benefited from Movie 2 and the game's already inflated advertising budget
i just LOVE lying h3ybro 😅😅😅
Before Frontiers was even properly shown gameplay?
yeah, and so would an anime starting dev in 2021
Okay daniel
prologues for the games were also customary at this point but Dark Beginnings is the standout. It’s CG and it has the highest production value of any of these projects
there is no shot in heaven frontiers 2 was planned this far in advance lmao
No
No
No
No
No

Yes.
Deleter wtf
Frontiers started early concept work in 2017, didn’t it?
oh my GOOOOOOOOOD
Sonic was NOT BACK right then!!!
look
It could start planing in 2021
if you don't think its this
It was JUST after Forces....
come up with an alternative
Yes
Anime so cheap tbh
Frontiers 2, duh
"its not anime!!" THEN WHAT IS IT TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME
I should order one rn
The only alternative is Sonic Frontiers 2.
ok i did just realize this would imply its an anime written by ian....
frontiers was the thing to make sonic big in japan again remember
they’re not gonna greenlight an anime before frontiers
probably
THEYA RE NOT GONNA FUCKING ANNOUNCE FRONTIERS 2 ON THE 30TH
Honestly my theories are :
Another visual novel
An anime
A new console game entirely
An app
Or This is an insane reach but what if she's maria sister, and we're gonna hear about her in the shadow dream team update that drops in december.
Remember that ariem was also designed by uekawa...
if this is an anime what do we do toc the deniers
No you would not
THEY ALSO WOULDNT HAVE FRONTIERS 2 CONCEPT ART OVER A YEAR BEFORE FRONTIERS 1 RELEASED
the last sonic anime flopped so hard in its home country it didn’t even air s3 until nothing else was on 💀
A visual novel announced in the 30th
You know u and i would be on the bed playing a new VN 😇
Plug you act like you are a company
I think it's possible but it feels like she's been teased for far too long
For it to be a simple vn
pug that was 300 years ago
what if ian was just fucking with us
Almost as if it was a production mainly targeted towards international audiences as opposed to Japanese ones, which this wouldn't be I'd imagine
Yea there is the alternative that this is nothing
ITS JUST
But i refuse to think this is ANY game.
What if she only exists in the movie universe and the date means nothing? Maybe that could be cool.
If its something
THATS SUCH AN ANIME ANNOUNCEMENT ASS IMAGE
It is yea
why have a movie character in the first TailsTube
hell not even a movie character, a movie backdrop space filler character
It's a very game prologue ass image
this is a tease

Also why would Ian be all hush hush about a movie character anime girl
deletre what if we linked up irl and did this to each other
maybe it’s not Frontiers 2 or a Racing game but a Secret Third Thing Game
MAYBE ITS AN ANIME LIKE IT HAS BEEN BEGGED FOR FOR YEARS
Game prologue announcements don't have that START text smh...
Also TMS is capable of doing multiple anime it's not a small studio in terms of size
"They're not going to tease ___ in 2021 if it's 4 years away"
and if frontiers already came in trying to appeal as much to japan as possible
Why wouldnt they make this a big turn around for sonic in japan
The general public still likes prime 
You're asking me to make my jokes more obvious than they already are.
Japan loves prime yes yes
These are all from the last few years
very disappointed no one voted tsr 2
H3ylow left...
If you’re gonna make the argument that they can’t have concept art for a game hanging around for so long the same could be said for an anime that logistically couldn’t have been greenlit before frontiers if they were considering whether or not it’d be viable
(From the TMS site)
Frontiers 2 before frontiers 1 even came out
OK I have a test now bye chat
Bye Nidio gl
hope he's not gonna think about this too much during the test
That's what I'm sayinnnnnng
It's 5 in the morning here.
Logistically it makes none of the sense
It just looks like an anime tease, sorry for just seeing that and being like huh that looks like an anime tease
going "exactlyyyyy" after he leaves and can't defend his position is crazy ngl
No i'm right handed
Maybe instead of an anime it’s a manga with a freaky animated teaser and the Shadow manga was just them testing the waters the entire time
I voted for tsr 2 oomf 🥹
Oh waiiit
Wait
Wait
Wait
Frontiers basically finished development by 2021 and was delayed for polish, Sonic Team are notorious for starting development of their next games as the production of the first wraps up
So what do you guys think is this Powerhouse or TMS
hurry it up h3y i wanna go to bed
Arg
Sonic Start! Anime will be revealed on December 30th
guys i think it’s just corn but replace the c with p
its broken english they just do that
Oh hmm
i poked myself in the eye with a straw
Somebody here said "start!" Is used for Anime announcements.
im going to bed
Fair enough
Is it tho?
start running lil bro
Are you okay 😭
What are examples
I don't know, I'm not a nerd, Henry.
Oh god what the fuck
im goingto bed
Sonic the Hedgehog: Awakening
It could be any game announcement but it can also be frontiers 2, it's not as limited as people think it is
Oh my god i got so scared for a sec i thought movie 3 released dec 30 in japan but no it's dec 27
😭
Mhm
Because Sonic Team is more of a nonstop assembly line of games than you think
CS2….
Okay so, I'm on anime team for sure.
I don't know what's the inverse of copium, but I feel like some of you are on it right now.
Hopium
hmm wait isn’t Chao Tales coming out next year
I'm on anime/new app/racing game
We already went through it.
Nah this was already discussed
You're too slow.
A Frontiers 2 doesnt make sense cuz she was shown before frontiers had even gameplay show
A racing mobile game wouldnt warrant that kind of hype at all
Yeah same
I don't really take the frontiers fandom/sonic fandom's interpretation of developer comments that seriously when there is much more tongue and cheek dialog between the interviewer and interviewee, no
But then if its not an anime what could it be
Dlc for shadow gens guys trust
I doubt with this style, this framing, that it is a game
I doubt its a manga either
What if this is a tease for a livestream
I believe him when he says that his future was up in the air, but not Sonic's
I’m throwing shit out there because game chances aren’t perfect but I am completely unconvinced that this is meant to lead into an anime
This is not frontiers 2
Ofc it has to be THIS shot giving me speculation trouble again im gonna shoot knuckles and that stupid hedgehog neo
See guys, this is why I kept hoping pink haired lady wasn't real and was a troll. Look at the kind of discussion we've gotten ourselves into shortly after she's showed up on a billboard.
Lmfao
Lmfaooo
It might be! But it's also much more likely to be a follow up to frontiers than any anime project with the logistics. One of these is a game that reached beta in 2019 and was practically finished in 2021, the other is an endevor that didn't really take off until post-Frontiers
This is why i love this server
Why does it LOOK LIKE THAT
That doesnt look like how a frontiers 2 would look like at all
Tion
at this point i'd just wait for the date to speak for itself
Its gonna be a long month
ITS A FAKE AD ON A TOKYO BILLBOARD AAAAAAA
Actually yeah wait
WHY DID THEY EDITED IT
BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO HAVE FUN
Collectively loosing our minds ! Just a month away ! Can you believe it guys !?
Have we considered the artwork purely being that and not actually being a representation of the product they’re gonna reveal
WHY IS THERE A DATE
😭
FOR US TO WAIT FOR
there’s a chance the actual thing will look completely different and this is just weird concept art/custom promo artwork
whay is the project being revealed in December 30th
i think all of us need to go to bed
New year's eve vn
No
Truts
Go to sleep
Silly *geese
You silly persons.
Frontiers delay happened in 2020, yeah
"It was not practically finished in 2021" cough
Because they said 2022 in the teaser revealed in the first central
The fact you guys are so against the idea this could be an anime is so baffling to me like goddamn this broad has been teased for so long just to be on a random spinoff game help
this broad 😭
Gonna tell TSR that
the last/most recent sonic cartoon took 5 years to be developed, frontiers is the first thing to really propel sonic into the JP conscious again, and the real movie money is just now beginning to roll in
it would take a ton of stars aligning and falling into place in order to pull this off
alr this stopped being fun, gn for real
Yea i gotta get back to sleep
mimimimimimi

i know
me too
if nothing happens on that date people are going to explode
You better believe I am.
I’d like to explode
I'm going to combust like a dynamite.
??

The islands discourse this long after Kishimoto already spoke on the matter is still bothersome tbh
📑 Translated from Japanese
Hello! As you may have guessed, Kronos Island was originally a single island. When we did playtests in the early stages of development, we received a lot of feedback from testers saying that the island was too large, "boring," "it's just grass all the time," and "it gets boring."
📑 Translated from Japanese
We tried various modifications and ideas to solve this problem, but one of them was to make the island smaller so that players could move on to the next island before they got bored with the scenery of the first island, changing the scenery and preventing players from getting bored not only with the gameplay but also ...
("[...] with the appearance. We decided to split up Chronos Island.")
"It's boring"
you could've juste changed the fucking color of the grass for ouranos
Honestly that's what gets me abt Frontiers the most; they could have leaned into variation for the islands to take the edge off the complaints, but mostly kept them pretty basic
Like there are areas on the islands that fit the bill
The tree area in Ares, the hot springs or the icy areas in Chaos
Yeah
Obviously they wouldn't have bothered with Oranous if the change to split it up worked to begin with tho
Most of these comments don't end up mattering to the fandom though, and the mythological fourth island is surely out there somewhere...
Hence how everyone reacted to the terrain test map from that one developer slide
Mhm
Alternatively the discussion around cyberspace seems predominantly around vibes rather than what the developers stated, as well
There can be a dozen different citations on Retro of Kishimoto and Iizuka mentioning how Cyberspace was in the initial, pre-feedback form of Frontiers, and you'd think they would prioritize developer insight of all people. But instead the conversations afterwards in the same thread continued to use just one 4chan rumor that did not include it, as the more immediate source for what stage of development they were conceptualized
I do get not believing developers 100%, and looking for insight from leaks when the truth might be obfuscated, but not to that extent
I saw your post on Retro about this, so I understand
Yeah, I tried to do a proper good job for a write up, and then the immediate post followed with speculation and a "oh lmao one of deleter's quotes supports this lol" (it didn't
)
me too man
That the pink haired woman was gonna be the "ghost girl" mom
Or that she was the ghost girl herself
What?
Oh right, she was teased before Frontiers released.
You sounded crazy for a second to me.
that would be mega lame
guys is it normal if every time a word ends in ‘Ega’ I hear Eggman Nega right after
I don't think I've ever hedged my bets on anything that actually sounds too good to be true; even the "Pink Girl is Ariem" deal was much more for the sake of crackpot theory than anything I would actually want
Maybe that makes me unreasonably pessimistic but that's honestly my main motivation for betting against it, more than figuring out what it is for exactly
But where is the satisfaction if I don't really care if she's for a Frontiers 2 or a RPG 😭
The heart of the bet...
At least this discussion was entertaining
The french community was like "erm this is prolly nothing, just a troll"
The fun police istg
I sincerely don't get why people are annoyed at movie Sonic being silly.
He's funny, charming and cute.
I think it's mainly because of the more serious stuff cranked up quite a lot
Makes the goofy quips stand out more
Also something something trailer editing
TF:One seemingly had a similar issue with its marketing, where they put all the obnoxious shit
Only for the movie itself to be not that*
nfw this pink haired girl is back
*seemingly, I haven't watched it myself
shes kinda baddie tho
If people want or expect a fully serious Sonic movie, all I can do is laugh at them.
I like that we can have some comedy and goofy moments with increased stakes.
Plus he's really charming with Tails and Knuckles, I'm so looking forward to their interactions.
They are family now.
Like that horror movie night clip is exactly the kind of stuff I want.
Which had to come from a want to begin with
i jsut really hope hes written decent in the movie and they just choosing worst dialogues because kids
If he's anything like he is in 2 it should be fine
He'll definitely have some good moments where he's serious.
I think people overreact to his silly dialogue.
So let me get this straight
The pink lady wasn’t in the first trailer, but now is in the final trailer?
Yah
She's in that 30-second TV spot
Yeah
I'm genuinely so confused about whether or not that shoot was finished or they are fucking with us
And she only shows up once, which is strange because that electric billboard shows up twice in that TV spot
Yes
and the first time it shows up, it has the same picture it did in trailer 1
Look, comedy's subjective and all i get it. But some people find the mcu quipping shtick annoying. It isn't so much that people dont want comedy and goofy moments. Hell sa2 was full of that stuff
And I HATE this as an excuse. We've had some great family movies over the years that know how to use humor, that can also appeal to a lot of people
Kids deserve good media too
When the kids media card is played I get split between two perspectives, that being the all-inclusive "even if some people are fine with the stuff that turns other people away, those same fans will still enjoy it when its improved upon to the broader audience's standards", but then also the "kids media is not always made for everyone, and it shouldn't be forced to conform to being made for everyone when it is being made to appeal to a child's sensibilities/literacy levels"
The thing is though, most of the quips in question aren't really... something made in service of children 💀
The date says 12.30.24
Massive spoilers
#1310830038668546080 message
Cant believe I woke up to pink haired girl being comfirmed real in a fucking movie Sonic tv spot
Anyways I have been thinking about and although I dont discard the anime theory
I believe is a game
er wait anime theory?
THE next mainline game if they got Paramount to advertise it
But
Not Frontiers 2
People have been talking about the possibility of us getting a new sonic anime and that pink haired girl is from that
Honestly not impossible at all, a brand new Sonic anime is something worth enough bothering Paramount to advertise too
oh hmm. yeah I'll lean more over next main game honestly
But I can still see an sonic anime being a possibility
Man I thought it was funny how we were getting more obscure characters like pachacamac before amy but character from media that we still don't know about before amy is insane 😭
Fr
The gears on my brain are stsrting to spin
Frontiers was a very risky move by sega, so who says that they didn't have a backup plan in case their first open zone game failed
So, I believe this was meant to be the next game after frontiers if it had bombed
Meaning, a pure boost game
where does Sonic Heroes fit into all of this 
Its half of it
Legit i can't see how sonic team would have SXSG, frontiers, rumble AND a new game all in development
Shadow gens wouldnt have had Open Zone had Frontiers bombed
Meaning
More time to develop a full boost game
Reminder that Rumble is mainly Rovio
Shadow Gens started development in 2022, after the movie released
I thought rumble was largely also sonic team and Rovio mainly handles microtransactions and advertising?
See, the key words here are "sonic team"
tbf rumble was not developed by sonic team
Now, does this mean this new game will have an Open Zone? Maybe, if its for end of 2025
I do
You dont call Paramount to advertise your small side game in their big movie
its studio 4 from sega who works on mobile games
sonic team probably just help with some stuff the same way as superstars
We don't know if it's in the movie itself yet
Only the one video
Even that its still asking paramount too much imo
Yeah but even the TV spot didn't edit the billboard in the same shot shown a second time
Same as the first trailer
This
this shot and the one with girl is dif scenes tho
They constantly go back and forth between new and old stuff
Like they still use blue fire air shoes despite showing the latest version has them magenta-ish colored
Whos to say that the billboard isn't also switching between different ads
Thats also true
I'm not, but I'm also not going to be surprised if they just snuck it in to one of paramount's ads
Since that's all they really have to do to get the Sonic fandom fired up abt these teases
SoA/Marketing
Not for the games no
Or anything SEGA related, if we're going by anime theory
Also this was only found thanks to the google ads repository thing
So I wonder when it was actually meant to be released
pink haired lady showing up here is crazy, considering they have few actual Sonic characters
I was about to say that, but I don't want to do that every time a character shows up before Amy as wild as it is
Looking foward to see deranged amy fans on twitter become even more deranged if Rouge somehow shows up before amy
Water is wet 

no way you say that as I'm watching naruto lmaoooo
"water isn't wet, it makes things wet" or smnth I forget
hes so ugly
Commander boutta crash out
I bet he would rather have this meeting at an Olive Garden
I wonder if they will do another slowmo sequence here, cause thats too many kids around to assume the explossion wont hit anyone
With those missiles heading towards them, They would need to do a quicksilver scene to redirect those missiles and save everyone at the restaurant
just blow them up
Emulate the games and have all the humans run away at the last possible second, even in the face of widespread, impossible-to-avoid destruction 
or just blow them up
a couple extended sequences but mostly a reshuffle of stuff we saw already
yeah
can't wait for the new 2D animated show that's been in the works since 2021 to get revealed on December 20th (manifesting)
I doubt this is for a new animated series
or even the comics at this point
It has to be related to a game that we have no idea about
Definitely drawn by tyson tho
looks like it could be karasuno to me
True
Yuji Uekawa did the original art for her
we don't really know how Tyson draws sonic styled humans
I mostly can tell because of the bold white highlights
I don't think he created her
I think its Tyson since he is directly involved with the movies
Ye, in this particular case I think it's tyson who made the art on the billboard
well that could work
Maybe he tried to emulate Karasuno’s art style for this particular character. I mean, Evan Stanley did that too for Gerald’s journals in Shadow Gens
?
i mean stanley really tried to copy karasuno style for gerald journal
oh that's what he meant
I'm genuinely starting to think she might be new a character in the next mainline Sonic game
Would that be a stretch?
Nope
idk I think it has to do with a show
Would be a cool looking avatar for the end ngl
Like, as a human avatar anyway.
cannot belive we're in the Pink Hair Lady stage of Sonic now, it's so real
wait that was stanley??
wow
Didn't know either
She did a excellent job
Pretty good job honestly
Genuinely who the hell is this woman
That they're so secretive about her to the point of teasing her years early in a blink-and-you'll miss it segment of TailsTube and the background of THE MOVIE WITH KEANU REEVES
I have no idea at this point
She's beautiful though
frontiers anime..
I want to think she is a Robotnik
It's just so crazy to see she somehow appeared
Here
Not Marias's sis, but maybe her niece
The sketch
In the absolute last place I expected
It would be such a strange way to tease a new Sonic anime if this is the case
They def have more "volume"
I doubt it though
if they were doing an anime, I really wonder who they got for it working
you say that as if there would only be a teaser in the movie 🤫
why did I type only twice.
Most likely TMS
Nah
Tms is busy rn
They're working on sakamoto days
But- if the anime is for 2026 then maybe

Or maybe 2027 depending on multiple factors
was TMS busy at the time?
Once again, this current era of Sonic is just begging for a new anime
it's never not time for a new anime
and being consistently good unlike Sonic X
Idk TMS isn't that small
I think they currently have a show airing, and Sakamoto days is also releasing soon iirc?
So it's not impossible for them to have multiple projects at once
I'm saying this as the series only now embraces being earnest & trying to be cool again
Compared to over half a decade ago
If we are getting a sonic anime how will it be handled?
Where I just couldn't see them do a Sonic anime during the 2010s unless it was very silly, I guess
WIll be getting an IDW Adaptation or it's own thing?
(Blue box is the show that I think is either airing or just finished bc it started this season)
I hope the latter
hopefully way better than Prime even if it ends up mid
I want them to make an original story that is very respectful of the source material
Like the recent shorts
Hmm
The blueprint is right there
Get ur shit right next time 
To be fair, their ideas for her back in 2022 could be changed at this point
Or else
W magenta haired girl

funny how some gave up thinking she mattered much
and then suddenly fucking movie 3 of all places
True
SEGA really gives no fuck
SEGA can just casually show something no one ever expect LMAO
I don't think it's an anime tbh
"ah nah she was def scrapped"
"Are we going to have 1:1 Adaptation?"
SEGA: No have Gerald being alive
"Amy, Silver, Rouge, Metal Sonic next!?"
SEGA: lol nope have the purple haired girl being cameo
Audience: WTFFFFFF!?
No one ever said she was scrapped though, Ian always asserted that there were plans for her
Like this fucking company is really something

But yeah there is a very good chance we'll actually see her much sooner
Cause that'd only be like..2 years of development.
actually doesn't Tyson work on the tailstube's too
But my guess is the next sonic game next year
I just had no clue at this point when she would appear, but the last thing that I was expecting was another tease in a blockbuster movie
Like what
He makes them
it makes senseeeee
nah I definitely saw some saying they forgot about her entirely and we were just looking at something that either drastically changed or was dropped
but it was probably not many people but I do remember that
Ohhh you mean the fandom
Justin, you're underestimating how short an anime prod cycle can be + it could be a winter 2025 anime
how do I make this about gizoids
Considering her outfit and all could be like learning the ancients, gerald'd journal, gizoids, angel island, etc.
Like essentially wanting to know more about sonic's world
I forgot it's crunch society over there
Also we know that it's been in development since at least a few months before the first tailstube
But yeah I can legit see a sonic anime, but at least another 25 episode and such
Also, correct me here
Didn't know there was an uncorrect you
Which was March 2022
3 actual seasons of a better show let's go!!!
Honestly idk
If sega were to make another sonic animz
Imo it'd be a 25 ep one shot
Then I'd be very surprised that they'd give it a greenlight before frontiers drop & reception in Japan.
Considering X wasn't inherently the strongest in its home country. But anime appealing/focused towards the west isn't impossible either, so anything is plausible
But don’t they normally announce new anime stuff to be in production right away before we have to wait a year or so?
So they had finished character designs as early as 2 years and 7 months ago
Essentially what I said earlier h3ylow lmao
I'd bet even less eps than that
I don't think sonic will even get something like Pokemon because no other video game adaptations are like that
but yea I don't expect anything too long
unless netflix enters the equation which would mean it's long for the wrong reasons
Normally yeah, but sometimes they announce stuff they've been working on for long, or even more rare stuff they've finished
netflix 
Yeah, that's why I was wondering
Split episodes that become seasons, yaaaay.
Wouldn't be surprised if generally the team is comprised of mostly the same members as the superstars cutscenes
I'm mostly gonna be surprised if info about this hasn't leaked if they drop a reveal of an actual anime
"Mostly" these people wouldn't nearly be enough
Obviously yeah, but I can see a much bigger team than just superstar for a sonic anime
True, mostly meant like
Directors and stuff
Now the real question I'll say this
Outside of the game chars, you'll think they'll use other chars?
A good writer would be nice to have too because Iizuka ain’t it in my opinion
Like the IDW chars,a nd such?
Always wanted studio orange for a sonic anime tbh.
Not the common suggestion, but I think they could do it.
Since he is credited to have written the story of Superstars
What did studio orange worked on btw?
........that explains a lot lmao
Iizuka as a Sonic writer has good ideas for Sonic stories, but when he has to put this all together himself, the results left me confused….
Both with Superstars and Shadow 05
Beastars, Trigun Stampede.
In that realm of stylized 3d anime. Kinda like what dark beginnings was, just more polished
oh right I forgot he did shado 05 too LMAO
OH SHIT!
Nah I am 100% board with this
He also did Rivals apparently
I watched trigun stampede and it's goated
Do we have the credits for this ?
Land of the lustrous too*
But honestly i hope we don't get a studio like orange
Yeah, in the superstars credits
Also they have land of the lustrous to go back to
Can easily do either post forces or post frontiers really
Since they are the most recent sonic wise
But nvm this, a 3d anime would completely defeat the purpose of choosing a japanese anim studio
- the japanese audience would care even less

The director for the superstars cutscenes, Toshihiko Masuda, seems to have pretty consistent animation credits until 2022
Not really
If 3d isn't popular there's a reason
(Though he storyboarded on 1 show that released in 2023)
Either way, sonic anime probably isn't moving mountains over in Japan.
It has a slight advantage in a post frontiers world, but not by a large margin.
But like, production schedule wise, it really lines up
And it is oftenly seen as a cheap alternative to 2d
(For the director at least)
For example : people hated the fact that csm was animated in 3d in the csm anime
By people i mean western and japanese fans alike
oh yeah I do remember people were complaining hard over it
Yeah fair enough
A 2D Sonic anime will be more preferable
Outside of well.... mechs
Yeah they have to be done in 3D regardless
The superstars animation director hasn't worked on anime since lupin part 5 in 2018
o/
Yeah well not to be mean
But superstars intro was subpar
His job is to assure control quality
Over everything
So erm

Yes of course
But that doesn't excuse him not seeing the problems with sonic's clones
She looks young to be in her fifties but stranger things have happened, maybe she's Maria's sister/niece?
Like her sister had a kid and that's this woman
Listen like half of the directing staff here animated on akira
leaning more over sister yeah
I feel like for superstar case the issue also lies in budget
Ikkkk
We know one of Gerald's sons was into archeology, my bet is that that son was Maria's father, they had the sister, and the sister had this lady
After all Abe looks pretty old, I think if it was her sister she'd probably be a granny
But between the small human cast and Gizoid-like dress...
Im onboard with the Niece theory too
I've connected the dots
Hiroaki noguchi, the animation director, animated this back in the 80s 😭
(According to Sakugabooru at least)
Like, almost 4 decades ago
So I do legit just think they didn't have time to fix that wrong hand
But they prob were aware
Well that's assuming bro didn't have a glow down like db's yamamuro
You don't forget animation principles man 😭
Timing in the superstars intro looks all wrong, and that's one of the main things that can take the longest to figure out on a shot
Or bad habits
Yes ik it looks all wrong that's why i assumed it was done by some newbies back then
I mean tbf it's def possible inbetweens were done by newbies
Might check later
But
Regardless a person who worked on a shot like that could make a polished anime if given more time and money
Also hiroaki noguchi was like by far the best animation director on sonic x
essentially yeah
sign me tf up, I would love it
Already a flop before it even aired if so
same, i think i'll just cut my losses and read the manga a this point but man do I wanna hear and see it too 😭
I mean it def wasn't a financial flop internationally
Just in japan
Yeah so 💀
But like, sonic x was pretty damn big internationally
yes please
Also I brought up sonic x just bc you said he should notice the issues with the sonic clones
Bc like
I will say nowadays a sonic anime will do remarkably better than back then
As i said, why bother with 3d which most anime fans don't like anyway
The episodes he directed have some good ass sonics
Since we are at that point where anime is huge towards international
Missread of the potential audience
Like, by far the closest to uekawa art
Sonic 2025 is gonna look at 2024 and say aight bet
With the movie that's gonna be hard
Yeah I feel like we shouldn't underestimate SEGA anymore lmao
SEGA just gave no fuck and do what they want this year lmao
The movie is still gonna like, have so much influence
oh 100%
Especially with shadow
This helps a lot with Knuckles
Shadow will be no different either
An anime finally, a full anime
But real talk after with sonic 3 movie
You guys better hope its an accesible form lol
I get the feeling they'll think more idea over Shadow not rely on chaos emeralds anymore
We're still not sure but yeah if it's an anime we're so back
(Satoshi Hirayama also has some good ass sonics, but they look less "uekawa sonic" and more "sonic x sonic" to me?)
I'd call it a win too if this was an anime stylized new game
either way I'm eating well
If it only took this long because production of it was sandwiched between other anime, it might still look like that superstars intro
Nahhh
Joever
OK BUT AT LEAST THE FEW DIRECTORIAL STAFF I CHECKED, DIDNT HAVE ANY NEW ANIME CREDITS SINCE LIKE 2022
🙏
(From superstars)
Well i mean
Nah hard agreed henry
okay guys
So maybe
what if
I feel like the idea with superstars worked
it was another studio!
It just needs well..... more budget
Time* time is more important
Time especially yeah
I mean if they manage to make a full length 3D series that's as good as dark beginnings I would not be complaining but also that's not happening
studio spectre
I just dont really care anymore about ANYTHING 3D
Dear god not 3d PLEASE
like if it’s gonna turn out like superstars, the I’d rather have it be done by powerhouse or giggex atp because i can at least expect some quality
Damn would yall really not want full length dark beginnings if it was a thing
I won't mind 3D cel shaded but it would need to be as good as the new trigun
I really think boom and prime are examples of how 3d animation can be so fucking limiting cuz you have to base the stories on what fucking ASSETS YOU HAVE
Yeah nah
Dang

Not really i rather have 2d as a whole
Dark Beginning is great, but I rather have a 2D Anime
Sorry 3D artist nidio
Regardless i really doubt this will be 3D
but yea i don't want anything like Prime again
it was fine now it's over, we need more 2D in this Sonic 
WHYYYYYY
I just saw a TV spot for #SonicMovie3 that just had such a HUGE SPOILER at the end😭
SAVE IT FOR THE THEATER LIKE WHAT!???
Marza too busy with movies for this prob
And the SXSG:DB studio is relatively really small, wouldn't be able to do full episodes I think
Nah they animated shows as well
they’re having a mid off
There's a show on Netflix animated by them
Just smaller scale stuff
But idk man they wouldnt have 2 3D animated shows in production at the same time
Just kinda doesn't make much sense
I'll say what helps is the timing
Where Sonic is b ecoming even bigger than it already was
If a Sonic anime is a thing, it'll get far better attention compared to Sonic X
But like timing on all the main superstars staff suspiciously lines up man I'm kinda convinced it's them
Ig it could be like
yes
She'd be like uncle chuck or smthng idk
Is she like a main character whos a human
Lupin part 7 and I got too deep into it 😭
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Uncle Chuck makes sense
Over what I see from the girl
I am leaning more over her being a researcher about Sonic's world
While she is very interested wanting to know about Sonic himself
Bc a lot of this staff also did lupin part 4/5/6
(6 released in 2021)
I kinda can't stop thinking of her maybe being sorta related to Eggman's family
Studio ghibli on the anime guys #trust
She doesnt feel like a villain anymore lmaooo
doesn't have to be, Maria wasn't one either
Maybe she could be like, the researcher part of the family
Honestly if she is a robotnik she can easily be a polar opposite to eggman
yea
like it's a bit narrow minded and all but idk the clothes are kinda throwing me off is all
Didn't see any of them on lupin zero which is from late 2022/early 2023
So that also lines up
An Eggman connection would be obvious but it’d be fine
however, one of the people who worked on Shadow Gens says that they became more interested in exploring Eggman’s family tree recently, yeah? that might imply that the pink haired girl is seperate
They could be working on sd nidio
It looks very ARK like
I'll be very happy if we get to know more about eggman family
But also kinda jungle explorer like
shouting at the choir but definitely getting archaeologist vibes
or someone who knows about relics and junk
Exactly
jungle wouldn't be out of place for her yea
It'll give her massive interest over wanting to know about Knuckles and Shadow
Considering both of their history
That's the so far staff that we know is working on sd
I'll try to compare this to superstars jn 5 Mins when I'm home
Looking this up on my phone takes so much longer than my PC
I'm switching bus so i can't do that either
that would be so cool
Maybe less gunny but like, actually exploring sonics world and stuff and being like, actually a decent way to do some like, lore building in sonics world idk
Again what I said earlier
I feel like it'll be a great way to utilize her while knowing more about Sonic's world
it'd be cool if she filled a role like Gerald but obviously didn't become destructive, just someone to carry his curiosity in the world within Sonic's
ok none of the animation/director staff here worked on superstars
not checking sound ppl bc i dont think thats super relevant
Like omochao but for lore
"did you know there are 7 Chaos Emeralds?"
||nah they wouldn't do her this dirty of course||
correction: daisuke sako (episode direction) was the director of lupin zero
Her being a normally mature aloof character that goes from 0 to 100 whenever ancient cultures are mentioned into a quirky facts machine would be nice gap moe 
but also thats only 6 episodes so its def possible that he worked on both that and a sonic thing
and barely any of these guys have any video game credits so its not like its a special video game cutscene team or smth
though toshihiko masuda, the director, DID storyboard uh
balan wonderworld

Basically rouge but less interested in jewerly and more interest in old stone tablets
i wouldnt take that as a sign of his quality though 😭
he worked on anime and stuff lmao
Yeah, and going "Did you know...?!" with glowing eyes at you
yeah he worked at ghibli lmao
according the comment
0:00 - 0:06 Toshihiko Masuda
0:07 - 0:09 Takashi Hashimoto
0:10 - End Masuda
and he also directed the superstars intro so again uh, i really wouldnt judge any of the staff based on that intro
lemme look through superstars key animators, so far only looked through the director/storyboard/episode direction/animation director credits
so toshihiko masuda (Director), Daisuke Sako (Episode direction), and Hiroaki Noguchi (Animation director) all worked as key animators
Shinpei Sawa is another key animator, has a lot of credits before 2022, in 2022 was a key animator on chainsaw man and then has no credits until "The Colors Within" which released in august this year
he worked on a lot of really good looking stuff though
A Silent Voice, Violet Evergarden, Suzume
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Kanako Maru is the last key animator, worked on a lot of stuff until 2022, no credits since then
sesbian lex didn't carry it to a 10 for ign
hate to see it
Friend of mine speculated something that is probably very true, looking at the pieces laid down in the recent trailer & TV spot.
Even as someone who thought the ending was kinda underwhelming
This is crazy
Rachel and Randall aren't ACTUALLY in the movie.
It's Tom & Maddie in virtual disguises.
And compared to this lmfaooo
Thr first part is worth what
A 3
Maybe a 4
but yeah all of the key animators have no work since 2022, other than Shinpei Sawa animating on 1 movie that released in august, Toshihiko Masuda storyboarding My Clueless First Friend (2023) and Daisuke Sakô animating on Spy x Family Code: White (movie, 2023)
so like, three of them worked on maybe 1 shorter series or film that released in the last 2 years
and two of them on nothing at all
(other than superstars)
IM JUST
SAYING
IT LINES UP MOSTLY
They have the tails tech button on their collars.
I doubt they ARENT in the movie
But they could be disgusing themselves as them
For sure
That's what I expect also
They might come in passing/mention beforehand, but I don't think they'll be in the thick of it.
I dont see the reason to think that
OK nvm ignore all my ramblings above IMDB just doesn't have up to date credits on recent anime it seems 😭
They are gun agents ig maybe they could help out at the end
At least the director of the superstars op has worked on a few things that released this year
I feel like if that were the case they wouldn't need to sneak in in the first place
I am sure they can
But mainly over Gerald
Remember GUN essentially disguise themselves as guest for the wedding
Yeah I'm sticking with this being the only exposure of Rachel & Randall of the movie for the moment.
Can't think of anything firm solid to think they'll come in real clutch.
Cause in the same sequence we can see the HQ is falling apart at some point.
So somebody fucked up lol
Bruhhh, they understodd the assignement and realise that nobody gaf about the wedding
🥹
nuuh
Nah I don't think so
It's either a Sonic anime or a new sonic game
.....wait I just realize
THAT'S NEARLY THE END OF 2024!
SEGA wtf!? LMFAO
yeah half of this chat (though mostly me lmao) have been going crazy bc we've all kinda come to the conclusion that its not impossible for that to be an anime
It's for sure either of the two but still
I am so baffled a fucking char in a concept art get tease in a sonic movie
Like that is insane build up right there
and im driving myself further into insanity bc im looking at credits of TMS staff that worked on the sonic superstars intro bc i think they kinda line up with a new anime being made by them
The timing is just too coincidental now for a sonic anime
Wouldn't be the first time they did something right before the year ends. They released Adventure 2 on December 30th after all
lmao
oh yeah

......wait
That's since SA2 too!
bruh
SEGA pulling big brains shit right there LMAO
I’m still wondering what the date means on the pink hair lady


