#Sonic Rumours & Speculation
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I will take the L if it turns out real tomorrow, I’ll write up a short story about shadow learning about 9/11
but im being genuine here i do not see it rn 😭
hes losing flow
Anyway, can I say it... actually looks pretty cool?
The trailer shot is nice yeah
I really like the way his electricity looks
it seems more intense than sonic’s
If this is actually real I’m gonna scream
there was a tv spot?
Yep
Dunno if this fits here or not, but this might be SxSG preview embargo
is this post from now?
Yeah
The status was made at xx:48, I saw it 2 minutes later
So essentially in a minute we'll know
Yup
yeah #1202386622885404714
More like Team Corpse-ix
I’m still waiting for ugly sonic
So what about that sonic soccer game
... So like...
Will there any gun violence in that third movie? (Not that Maria’s death)
Nah
I’ll have it on the desk tomorrow
I meant like Dark Knight, Avenger and other superheroes always have gun violence
yes, sonic will appear onscreen and remind the audience of children you should always steal a cop's unholstered weapon
It won’t be their fault that the cop left his gun unholstered
“Interesting,” Shadow said as he and Sonic took an afternoon stroll after a tense race. “So humanity has several culturally significant landmarks.”
“Pretty cool, huh?” Sonic responded. “Like that!” Sonic pointed to the World Trade Center.
Shadow squinted his eyes. “Aren’t there supposed to be two of them?”
“Huh?” Sonic queried.
“Don’t play dumb with me, hedgehog,” Shadow responded. “During my time on the ARK, Gerald described two tall towers recently built in the heart of Central City.”
Sonic hissed through his teeth awkwardly, rubbing the back of his head. “Geez, you didn’t know, huh?”
“Know what??” Shadow’s voice began to raise.
“They went down, Shad.” Sonic responded. “They, uh, exploded, I think.”
“….”
“WHAT!?”
“Yeah, some plane hijackers rammed it RIGHT into the side,” Sonic continued. “Two planes.”
“Planes??” Shadow cried. “The towers—gone?? 2 planes-“
“Wait, my bad—“ Sonic continued. “Three. One of them hit the pentagon.”
“THEY HIT THE WHAT??” Shadow screamed in abject horror. “BUT MARIA LOVED THE PENTAGON!”
ASDASAUDUGAASUD
I’m never making bets over sonic ever again
OAVAOWVAODVIE SISCSOAVSISCOWVE IS DOSVISCSGE
https://vxtwitter.com/daffywoody/status/1831480361131585961?s=46
I'll put this here because I don't know how legitimate the source is, but if this is true, that is kinda sad
In this article, it reveals how much each cast member got paid from Sonic Movie 3.
First of all, it makes sense for Jim Carrey, Keanu Reeves, and Idris Elba to get paid the most.
But I’m surprised, that Ben Schwartz is not paid for a million as Sonic?
https://spoiler.bolavip.com/en/movies/sonic-the-hedgehog-3-cast-salary htt…
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Ben not getting at least a mil for voicing the main character of the movies is nuts
honestly yeah
Marsden earning more is kinda wild
but at the same time
nah idk
lmao
Holy fuck Ben only getting 500,000?????
I would get shit like Keanu and Idris
But fucking Ben?????
Also no surprise, Coleen not getting nowhere near the same treatment as other actors
Jim Carrey getting 12m out of this is also kind of nuts
I am more surprised by Ritter being paid less than Colleen, at least Colleen gets more or less equal with the main star
Jim Carrey gets 4 more million each time, with RDJ news for Dr. Doom, it's no surprise here, I was expecting more tbh
Colleen probably got paid more doing these 3 movies than the entirety of her video game VA career
😭
I remember Ryan Drummond saying he made 10k in royalties from the Sonic Heroes McDonald's ads in just a Summer
Geez
Well, is a different market ig
Voice actors overall don't get that amount even by just doing a role in a show either
sad but make sense
ben and colleen is not popular actors like keanu,idris or jim
something about this doesn’t surprise me at all
and I also think it is kinda reasonable
voice actor talent should be taken more seriously and be more respected overall but at the same time, I do think it makes logical sense that the physical actors get paid more. as for idris, keanu, and Jim, that stuff is just explained by their stardom - having them on this film means paying to take their availability away from other projects, and considering how famous they are… yeah, their time will be valuable
12million valuable, though? I dunno
im more surprised by james marsden
i thought hes a lot more famous
It has to be due to doing both gerald and eggman
I thought Ben would get more, but that's about it.
Yeah sounds right
people are surprised that Ben isn’t getting more but he was never really a major celebrity
Getting paid less than Marsden isn’t surprising. I don’t even think he got top billing for movie 1
$12 million is fucking WILD for your last film role tho lmfao
we are now officialy in frontiers 2 leaks and rumors era

||angel island powered by cyber master emerald||
||Nah that's OD if that's real LMAO||
||BROOOO THAT'S ACTUALLY RAW!||
||also big island above other island||
leaning on it being bollocks - the gameplay descriptions sound like they're from playtests, but the info about who's working on it wouldn't be shared in those
like you're either a dev or a playtester pick your story
The only thing of notice is that its 2 different leaks which.... eh
Whoch could be just
One copying the other
Would be funnier if it was actually the same guy trying to bait people twice
Trueeee
probably lmao
it prolly is lol
But I do like the idea that the next location taking place in Angel Island
that or they roped a mate into it
either way tho it def feels like educated guesses at play here, next game being a frontiers successor with elements being tested from TFH feels like a shoo-in
Also I'm reading this
It's riffing off ToTK with an island above a bigger grounded island lmao
yeah lmao
Altho I guess it's technically sky sanctuary 
shit is huge when looking at Knuckles prologue
sonic team not beating zelda inspired allegations
this certainly sounds like an interesting idea but I don’t think it’s real
also ngl I'm very much expecting to see tails/knux/amy from TFH returning and I'd be very surprised if they didn't
Yeah I can't see them not including Tails, Amy, and Knuckles
something I’ve noticed about fake leaks is that they always seem pretty targeted towards sonic fans in a deliberate way
TFH absolutely felt like a test bed to get em in next game, would be surprised to see that dropped
But however I can see them being far more involved
And not being like "supporting" chars
the game ended with them all going their separate ways so I figured that the alt playable characters for this title would be others
Well for Knuckles is a given if it's angel island lmao
if I had to guess I'm expecting something along the lines of how superstars did it, being able to switch em out on the fly
So basically a mix of how boom and superstars did?
Even boom did that mechanic too
oh yeah boom did that didn't it, yeah like that
Which honestly I'll be happy if they brought it back
If they wanted to use the main 4, it's the best outcome
TFH putting in switching but only if you ascend the final tower again was such a bizarre decision, why they do dat lol
either way tho I don't think they're gonna full story campaign it a-la the adventures
flexibility is the way, esp if they're all grouped together again
agreed
It feels far more natural they are all playable from the get go
But I can see them also include Shadow later on
different campaigns are great when they're all in separate places/directions but there's no point if they're just
right next to eachother the whole way thru lol
oh yeah true lmao
But I don't think that should be the entire game
But at least have some parts where they go on their own and whatnot
oh 100%, my biggest problem with frontiers is the structure and they absolutely gotta shake it up next game
you really do just do the same exact loop three times in a row, then the towers, then back to the loop a fourth time
can really tell it was their first time doing something like it and hopefully they can give it some more flexibility next time
Agreed
also nearly missed this but: they can definitely meet up again the gang ain't split up for good
hell, make it a story beat - every one of sonic's mates moving up and on with their lives while sonic is still stuck thinking of the good ol times
like
- specially mentions a larger dev team
- supposedly went into development after FH
- UNLEASHED!!
I mean, didn't Frontiers go through a lot of playtesting throughout 2 or so years?
But if they do wanted to being more involved I hope Tails, Amy, and Knuckles are actually involved against the final boss while Sonic goes Super
Yep it did
like these things happening isn’t exactly out of the ordinary and could be real
"man, remember the will-you-won't-you thing everyone thought we had going ames? good times, huh?"
"...sonic I married my wife two months ago, you were literally there at the ceremony"
erm sonic wouldn’t do that because he’s completely and fully emotional aware of everybody around him 🤓 he’s like the wind and he never changes ‼️
If it was saying Angel Island alone I wouldn't buy it, original names and new locations I could buy but it still could be made up
That's some agenda all right 
Also they definitely aren’t doing just one island next game lol
they pushed the idea of “open zones” a LOT just to suddenly backtrack and do only one location
a game about how you shouldn't be stuck in the past forever and actually change and evolve as a person over time would absolutely piss these kinda people off despite this absolutely being the moral they need to learn the most lol
looks at Amy fans
sonic frontiers 3 where sonic turns to the camera and tells you to go the fuck outside
if real then the playtesters most likely only got to play one island, it being early in development
if fake then it’s the leakers forgetting one of the prominent things sonic team were pitching about
Yeah it does make sense only one island as of now
but I don’t wanna go outside it was hot as hell out there
Hey I thought we were talking about sonic fans not spider man editorial
Can't wait for the betstesters to leak other playable characters info
If they are doing all characters in a single campaign, I kinda hope they're not available right from the get-go
Same
I think they’ll take the adventure 2 approach
I wonder if they take turns again in the campaign like TFH
it’ll shift depending on the moment/state of the story
That's what I'd imagined
most characters from the get-go and one absolutely game-breaking one when you finish the story a-la superstars would be great
Ehh
I don't think you can select characters
I kinda want progression in an open-zone type gameplay
If it's a story driven game and has progression, yeah
Like "get this thing and you can now go to that segment in this zone" or something like that
If story proggression wise, how'd you guys think work out for the main 4?
Judging by this leak alone
TFH is kind annoying for these turns twice but you can at least pick a character at the end
lowkey I know damn well this is not our first time talking about the next open zone game but can I just say how terrifying it is that we’ve moved so far across the timeline since frontiers that we are now actively talking about “frontiers 2”
They did say update 3 was the basis experiment for next game so I imagine the same
And knowing the reception they are going to expand that much further
No one complained about character turns I guess
But I do hope they don't get sidelined at times
bro I didn’t sign up for this when bmo said time was an illusion he was supposed to be talking about how loooooong things take
I want Tails, Knuckles, and Amy actually be part of the main story instead of well
Being like stuck in cyberspace lmao
No glitch filter anymore please!!
“guys! look! sonic’s friends are finally doing something!”
they’re just collecting the chaos emeralds which literally anybody can do
ngl yeah I prefer that only in frontiers because it what makes it stand out
yeah lmao
Like actually more than collecting the chaos emeralds
💀
this also caused me to raise an eyebrow at these supposed leaks
Or "save" the kocos and activate switches
cyloop returning? cyberspace is back? virtual master emerald?
I mean the ME was in Frontiers data assets, or something close to that, correct?
Ares Island I think
sonic mentioned an off color master emerald
it was near the place where knuckles had a mental breakdown over a 3k screenshot
I can see them doing more focuse over the ME. But the virtual ME is very ??????????
Idk
like alright, forgive me for thinking that the next game was gonna be standalone and not, like, a direct sequel
All I’m saying is if we’re dealing with another ancient society with the exact same cast of Sonic’s friends with several features of the gameplay loop again I’m gonna raise a singular eyebrow for like 10 seconds
Yeah I can't see them stick with the exact same cast honestly. But at the same time hard to say how many of them will be like actually playable
But I feel like if they wanted to make the next game stand out compared to Frontiers, bringing the IDW cast I can see being possible
I will say I like the imagery of another floating island but that’s just my new gorillaz lobe talking
I guess the leak period has begun? But this is more of a “oh okay” then the “we are so back” I expected when 4chan became relevant again
then again it is 4chan 💀
I’m sure that when the trailer releases and the game takes place on the fucking Summit Spire imma look real stupid but until then I don’t believe it
boost returning
yup I can see it
taking this with a grain of salt regardless
momentum
Yup
im not ready to move onto frontiers 2 yet 😭
Frontiers is also close to 2 years
But I also want to see what they have in the table
Ig due to the updates
I'm scared, Frontiers 2 will be the moment of truth.
It needs to be way better than its predecessor in terms of general polish and quality.
It's need to be better polish quality than even sxsg
Yeah.
new frontiers details
Both those leaks are very fake
I wonder if the original concept of a larger open zone with gated areas will be used in next game, regardless of the validity of these posts
Honestly I don't think the game is that early
Shadow gens was ready since long time ago it seems and final horizon probably didn't even use a third of the main team so
yea this has to have started at least around the development of FH
Shadow Gens was made at the same time as Frontiers and Superstars iirc
tbf superstars was done by arzest
not internally by Sonic team like shadow gens or frontiers
very likely it did
I hope that Sonic Frontiers 2 has enough distinctions from Frontiers
judging from the rumors, the cyloop returns and the combat is exactly the same
They definitely wouldn't keep the combat the same.
nah
it probably started after frontiers ended development
yea or that, I don't believe they'd start only after Final Horizon
what, Shadow Gens?
I think Iizuka or Nakamura mentioned in one of the interviews that this started development almost right after Frontiers
Oh, then probably around the same time
Read the leak
Ewwwwwwwwwwwww
EWWWWWWWWWWW
this is what I DONT want the next sonic game to be
Down to the T 
Combat unchanged, cyberspace taking inspiration from TFH, on ANOTHER island again, a direct sequel to Frontiers????
Ewwwwwww
And there’s even more
I’m just not gonna believe anything that mentions Sonic until an official announcement is made
this is the third time theyve mentioned this fucking floating island
theyre not even trying to hide how fake it is
two of these were on the exact same day
LMFAOOOO yeah this is fake as fuck
playtesters would not have that such access to the ending of the game
i dont think ian's even started writing for it yet
||>Sage leaves Eggman||
I mean… Ian said he was taking a break from writing the comics. Maybe he wrote the this already
he hasnt been head writer in years
this is what gave it away to me that it was fake
most of sage's characterization in frontiers very much portrayed her as somebody who would stick by her father's side no matter what
shes not a good person with a bad dad, her first choice apon meeting sonic and co was to literally turn them into fucking ghosts
im not saying she cant possibly change her mind later (although i dont think it would be very good) but this is her second game and too early
itd be incredibly stupid, and, most significantly, NOT WHAT THEYRE DOING
are they all using the same plot to make it seem like it could be real lmao
Nah he was a writer for the comics. Just not head writer. He said he was taking a break from the comics specifically
This is horrendously fake lmfao
is just funny to me how they are using the same plot lmao
all these leaks in quick succession with one another, two of them on the exact same day, they definitely thought they could make a pass for it 😭
like, with frontiers each leak was different until the first teaser released and one of them was real which lead to most of the leaks being similar based on the concept from that one playtster
but we havent seen anything and they all share the same concept surprisingly lmao
This is literally the same shit lmao
They tried to find a way to make it as much of a stinky sequel as possible, its so funny, these fake leakers have no creativity
The leak is faaaaake
Have we forgotten everything we have learned from the past
These are not things real leakers will talk about
This is that whole Sonic Rift nonsense
I need a fake leak with something wild again
like tails dying and everyone trying to revive him
Or Eggman being killed off
These leaks need some sauce to them.
man im just looking for something funny
guys I got a leak, bear with me
game is called Sonic Whipple - prototypes of the game have been given out to everyone like candy via usb sticks
- Sonic is teamed up with Wade Whipple thanks to a dimensional rip in space that causes wade to appear
- Sage dies on the first cutscene
- Sonic gains ghosts powers and the ability to phase through all walls and ceilings
- the 2nd level takes places inside the maze version of the SEGA HQ
- Wade is playable, can do everything Sonic can, in fact uses the same animations
I mean
is not directly gonna be frontiers 2
is moreso something like what colors was after unleashed
same concept with some changes here and there
yeah i mean in a story/narrative way
i don't want its story to be a sequel of fronteirs
its gonna be Frontiers 2 in gameplay only
yeah
they would probably promote the same way as colors
saying is taking inspiration from daytime stages and so
but with open zone instead
i mean yeah i want a spiritual successor to Frontiers
like Unleashed/colors/gens
but i don't want it to be called Frontiers 2
and/or build upon Frontiers story
I wouldn't mind if it builds out of Frontiers story
if it uses it's elements to do one that still can serve it's own interest
kinda like sa2 takes some beats of sa1 to work
Thats unfortunate
its fine
they aren't a fan of Frontiers story is all
Tbh, I'm a fan of it but I also don't want that.
Thats unfortunate
This was so successful they said its the framework going forward. And islands or closed spaces like that save dev time because you dont need to construct open world you make open zones
While yes it might not strictly be island's they will functionally be that
Whats important is if the aesthetic actually works this time and if the story is good and moves things forward
What do you mean thats unfortaunte?
Its just
We dont want the exact structure again
We dont want it to be about sonic on a mysterious new island
With eggman and sage
Again
I’d be okay with em making the next game about one whole massive island you can explore instead of lots of little islands
kinda felt like they were trying that in frontiers before the Kronos split
I rather be about lots of little islands
But im taking either
I just hope its not just massive grass field and nothing else
I wamt DEPTH
gradually unlocking new areas and biomes, one massive place where you can just seamlessly run between zones
not chunks of land on water
Yeah I think having it all separate is what kinda ruins the flow of frontiers in a way, restarting the gameplay loop from 0 each time
(also three outta five being grass lol)
Imagining simply running for a bit, doing some obstacles and then you’re in another zone with its own stuff
unlocking abilities as you go that help you get to said new areas, a-la unlocks in SA1
(only big barrier would be the graphical side of things, if the game struggles with pop-in I’m not sure how it’d handle a whole massive island at once lol)
I need it to feel dense and detailed and full of life, flora and fauna
I just feel like tends to copy successes without getting why they worked
so I guess its me being pessimistic
i mean i would not say that they cope without thinking when they made one giant island and not five small
its like already big change
Right now it's very early to say this is concrete information
Frontiers of the Kingdom
E. W.
😭
the underground portion would go crazy tho
I wouldn't mind a similar structure but the tone is less mysterious and like idk
instead of islands it'd be like different places, some could be islands others not - but the variety would have to be good, like
one HAS to be a city, for example
and they all have their own mini-games snuck around, missions and even side stories that are optional
making a huge giant open world, yea idk if I'm sure of that.
like, i just can't imagine that not running into the same problems Frontiers did but like, times ten with huge areas of nothing
You can do separate open zones and still be technically one cohesive whole
FF7 Rebirth and Xenoblade games are pretty much that
sonic twitter found the leaks 
Aaand
what kind of leaks
the frontiers 2 fake leaks
huh ? yeah ig ?
the thing is
it is corroborated by a prior """leak"""
it could be that they communicated or that it's just the same user with a different name or whtvr
Similar writing styles
it's just a person trying to make themselves look real by emulating how frontiers leaks went
not the worst plan id say
Oh boy a lot leaked
bro this is a fucking black market
check the link in each of the images this shit is wild
Before leaving this channel,
I'm gonna ask y'all to please spoiler any leaks that you will be posting in here.
On top of that, please write something like "leak sm3" or just "sm3" in the case of a leak that concerns sm3, or "sxsg" in case of... well you get it.
Thanks.
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Someone bought the fucking movie
Did they actually get it?
On the telegram they’re showing the dms
Of the transaction taking place
And the customer being happy
good for them ig
Not good
how much did they pay, anyway
Now he has the power to leak the whole thing
200
two hundred dollars?
that’s cheap as hell for one of this year’s most anticipated films
Yea fr
500, 600, now 200 💀
I saw it happen but I didn’t know if I wanted to comment on it or not
anyway, I said “good for them” bc it’s nice that they didn’t get scammed out of money at least
doesn’t spell good for the rest of the community though
Worth mentioning that due to serhat’s track record there’s still a 50/50 track that this is faked. we won’t know for sure if this happened until footage longer than 10 seconds begins to spread
in the replies he’s going “see here! no fraud! no fraud whatsoever! the client is very happy!” and it seems laid on as hell
wait I thought the chat got taken down
New one made
oh ok
Bruh
It wasn’t a “new one” necessarily, just the old one but everything was purged
lmfao I think I just got banned
Ffs
Yeah I think after the chat got destroyed he knows he’s running on a ticking clock and ergo he can’t afford anybody trying to dissuade “potential buyers”
of course he reuploaded the images, but I also think the other reason the telegram group as a whole wasn’t bombed was because paramount may be reaching out to the other companies the leaker had been taking shit from
which includes Sony, Hasbro, Mattel, Wildbrain, Nelvana, Warner Bros, Netflix, and Universal
Oh and whoever is in charge of Miraculous Ladybug
Miraculous Corporation is the company that produces the franchise, FYI
Been a hot minute, I guess whoever did "buy" it, isn't in much a rush
oh it was stopped? nice
It has not been stoped
Is it me or does Maddie's attire foreshadow one Sonic character in the films.
Movie 1 (2020) - Yellow, Tails
Movie 2 (2022) - Black and red, Shadow
Movie 3 (2024) - Pink, Amy (???)
While it remains to be seen if a fourth gets greenlit, we'll have to keep our fingers crossed.
I'm not sure I'm allowed to post this here because rules against dumb theories
but is this accurate?
Maddie's clothes color I mean
I never paid attention
they also said Maddie wore blue before Tom met Sonic and she wore pink clothes in the Knuckles show
if it's actually corect (the clothes colors in movies 1 and 2 matching Tails and Shadow's colors) yeah it's actually the wildest theory ever
she wore yellow in movie 1 for sure, I remember from the "child in the bag" scene, and Tails was the post credit
yep I checked she has red shirt and black jacket in the final act in movie 2
lol
Amy has to be next regardless honestly
I AM DESPERATE
she also has a different pink outfit during the friends race in the trailer lol
💀
if it turns out true...
I can’t wait for Sonic 4
Imagine if it's real, though.
One of best sonic chars
These films as we know always hinted and set up stuff, the echidnas in movie 1 set up Knuckles in 2, GUN in 2 was a set up for Shadow in 3, then we have flames of disaster in the Knuckles series and time travel (with Gerald alive) in movie 3... so all of it is pointing at Silver
mmm
we're yet to see how gerald thing is
My theory is that he was freezed too like shadow
Only time imma check this channel but
SPOILERS ||seeing how the leaked storyboards were, it’s def pointing towards Silver imho||
We still don't really know how Gerald is alive though?
It could be likely, but nothing is stopping Gerald from doing whatever other shenanigans to keep himself alive.
I don't know, depends on how they do it
Although I could see Silver regardless
Still, I want Amy and Neo Metal ugh
I need Chaos 
hey
Hi.
Heya
Heya
I checked the dude’s page and couldn’t find anything on the run time
Lol
BigOof
Thanks for the amazing information 
Despite you posting how the guy is a hack you atill posted the tweet

I’ll just wait for the BBFC rating for the final runtime ifhfjfjfjfk
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"Working title Frontiers 2" 😭😭😭
It sounds cool but that line alone makes me sceptical
realistic to expect it started off that way
What the hell would a trailer 2 for sonic movie 3 be like..
Does this mean they're gonna show more Gerald since they didn't save him for the movie?
Or just..more maria & Shadow/past stuff in general I mean, for Shadow's background?
I feel like no matter what you do, something is gonna feel like it's too much lol
is such a basic guess lmao
Just have it with a song from The Weeknd and it’ll be golden
Maybe the title would be “In the Shadows”
is this sonicas0 person on twitter reliable?
Don’t even, please
They're repeating "Midori's" leaks if that's what you're asking
mmmkay
midori's solid as far as sega/atlus is concerned
but yeah if it doesn't directly come from him, nvm
So like... They are doing Chao Tales shorts next year
I feel like that all but confirms that the Chao Guardians mobile game is happening
Netflix game
Oh yeah, kinda forgot. It was so touch and go in the central
Whatever
But Iizuka said the Chao Garden concept won't come out unless an SA3 game is created
So I wonder if Chao Guardians will be a different concept
it is called "chao guardians"
im sure the guardians part is important
what was the supposed genre again?
Tower defense
Wouldn’t be surprised
Unrelated, but speaking of the Nintendo Museum, due to people putting stuff from the museum shop up on eBay and other auction sites, the museum has had to limit the number of items sold per person for all products
resellers ruining everything as they always do 
I just realized I put this in the wrong channel
oh well 🫠
I mean Sonic is in a Nintendo system it sorta fits
Does someone know the hedgehog engine 2 modding discord server or something?
||Apparentely, they could datamine Terios and found out he has several new animations, different from those of Shadow||
||if somebody has some #connections they should send me the deets because this sounds spicy||
||It is being said in the Gamescage discord server, but currently I have no way to determine if this is real or not||
Okay got something. ||This message was given by Tsuki in the gamescage discord server.||
||From what Tsuki tells me and others, these are the animations done for real-time cutscenes||
||where was this even found?||
||They found it via a datamine on xbox I think. I don't have it very clear||
||I see
||
Nakamura did say they put a lot of effort into it
Yeah, that sounds accurate.
Well if thats happening.....
||Very interesting how he has cutscenes animations?||
...wait, they managed to get into xbox version game files?
Like, I figured Xbox letting people pre-load games way in advance could lead to that, I just thought it wasn't really possible to do that
Huh, okay
I don't get it very well myself tbh, ||but they got animations of Terios regardless so...||
||Got the file with all the animations listed that Tsuki shared with us||
Honestly, you don't even have to spoiler this.
This isn't information that reveals anything interesting about the game.
Like no duh this would be the case for this DLC.
Still but
The fact they were able to datamine this could mean things could start leaking soon
Somehow.
It's almost like somebody was suspecting that things would've started leaking.
im crying dawg we’re gonna wake up and the Xbox rom is gonna be posted by 15 different accounts on twitter
No fucking way
Ngl thay would be real funny
Rather have thay than have mark getting the game early again
||Terios skin has unique animations? Yeah sound about right||
||It also includes cutscenes||
oh shit
so terios has different cutscene animations, that's rad as hell
Mhm. That's very cool
What cutscenes though?
Because if it means the in-game little transition cutscenes, I thought it was obvious already.
I'm curious if he would be actually animated differently.
Or if he just uh, pretty much is animated the same with minimal difference.
For one, he can't skate.
Hey, actually.
How would his Doom Powers look like?
||Nah that's fucking crazy LMFAO||
||So I guess it's only matter of time where we'll get our final answer over reworked cutscenes, Infinite, and last story possibilities||
I'm pretty sure this just leaked the boss count
mind showing it? Just came back from work so I missed a lot
HUH
YOU CANT JUST SAY THAT GODDAMN
TOOOOOOBE
Oh.
I see
I'll leave it for anyone who wants to find it to do so 💀
Since it might be too spoilery
||never doubt tobe||
||but it looks like final boss might be 3 phases? Idk||
||seems so||
Hmmm||, still could be a rival fight||
||there would be someting saying rival fight in the files||
||Sonic is only a cutsceeeeene||
||What im surprised is that text changes too||
Nahhhhhh what?
||DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN RIP INFINITE BRO!
||
||yea sonic is probably just a cutscene||
||Bro I'm so sorry for Infinite fans man||
||Man to think they'd fucking tease us like that||
And ||not even leave much in the way of surprises||
||i wonder what are all these event scenes||
||I been saying this day 1 everybody wants to copium 😭. There ain't no rival fights that LeemerBean dude on twitter saw 75% of the game they would know if rival fights were there||
Where'd you all find boss list
||get a boot to the face no one cares about the word copium anymore||
||Like we've seen the biolizard fight, metal overlord fight, we know what the final boss looks like and mephiles is confirmed.||
||So this is the bosses of the game||
||Biolizard
Metal Overlord
Mephiles
Black Doom||
||basically the same amount of gens lmao||
||And i imagine 6 stages||
||Same amount of bosses but no rival fights.||
Basically we know the full game and how many levels it has maybe
||Now all that leaves us are the story cutscenes||
I start to think I shouldn't had sent it 😅
||Ark
Rail Canyon
Biolizard
Kingdom Valley
Sunset Heights
Metal Overlord
Chaos Island
Radical Highway
Mephiles
Black Doom||
||Wait Radical Highway is confirmed?||
||No rivals I can at least since Shadow.... doesn't really have actual rivals compared to Sonic lmao||
||considering all levels are so much longer than forces||
There might be a stage before the final boss
||Literally doubt the size||
This is just speculation
||Might as well be 30 like forces lmfao||
||sounds good to me ig||
Like i seen gameplay of kingdom valley that is close to 4 minutes if you run through it
||this will be a pretty decently sized experience||
||the longer stages will make up for the less stages ||
||Which I am fine with||
||I rather have stages that feels long because it makes them stand out||
||and kingdom valley feels sized perfectly||
||but yea i think we got the number of stages||
||not counting possible challenges levels PLUS the open zone which i feel will make up for at the VERY LEAST 30 minutes of the game||
i wonder... if we have to collect "memory tokens" to unlock stages in the open zone?
guys please stop using spoiler thing 😭
but yeah
just 4 bosses with one of them having 3 phases it seems
not to mention the amount of stages is also there
wt I think
I imagine those are extra acrs
5 known
- wings
- creature
- manta ray friend
- kick
- spear
Hmm
Right
Maybe there could be another one
Maybe transformation?
Yes
Because that 2nd profile is still h idden
But I would be surprised if that's the only qte
Maybe its just in ark act 1
We heard every track for each stage right
Not pre-rendered cutscenes
Ark Act 1
Rail Canyon Act ?
Kingdom Valley Act 1
Sunset Heights Act 1
Chaos Island Act 1
Radical Highway Act ?
We are still missing various act 2s and whatever
I hope those are just as good as what we heard
is the stage list confirmed by those leaks???
Hello, I am late to whatever happened here but I saw a random commercial that showcased what looked like a real-time cutscene of Sonic vs Shadow on the shadow gens side - maybe there are rival battles?
Oh, okay then
Infinite bros….
a shame too, I was actually rooting for him for a bit near the end there
does anybody have a link to the actual leaks that they can send in dms
Aw, no Sonic fight.
Its up there, its just txt
Guess I was right about the game being shorter than everybody was expecting.
I wanted the Sonic rival fight at least, though.
I had a weird feeling about everybody being so eager to celebrate nakamura (?)’s statement about shadow gens being the same length as base gens, because iizuka had already said it was closer to less than base gens
im more inclined to believe iizuka because he’s literally the king of shadow, and while i don’t think nakamura was being deceptive i do think his words were a little more vague
And like, Iizuka’s statement was vague too, but it was about setting expectations
So, is there anything else important that the file names "leaked"?
Still think we're gonna get infinite and sonic boss fights it's just that doc isn't complete
But if we not oh well
Game probably gonna leak next week so we see
It's not a doc it's the dlc files uploaded to xbox
They would not be missing
infinite doesn't surprise me, that boss fight isn't for shadow. Its not relevant to him.
No ||sonic||strikes me as odd, but i'll wait and see on that
Yes we talked about this
Might be because sonic has to win that boss in order to get the yellow emerald
would be a bit of a bait if you won in a fight against sonic only for cutscene power to take precedent anyway
You assuming they even do that
Theres a good chance its just "they fight and shadow gets snatched up and drops the shit" also also bait cutscenes havent stopped them or other devs before. Someone having to win is irrelevant to whether you design a boss fight or not
Just woke up, saw the posts
Yeah, none of this is surprising to me
||Infinite is the final boss. Manifesting that||
wait a minute
I thought ||4 bosses was for the Terios skin and not the final boss? Like, you don't play as Terios during the final boss, because it's not a standard Shadow boss?||
||it should be a Super Shadow boss, don't you think?||
damn got spoiled for base gens
nothing serious but ||it looks like all cutscenes are gonna be in engine and not prerendered||
there are more leaks?
it comes from xbox leak
#1293141920486391868
source if you don't mind?
Someone got a fake leak of s sonic metriod game and im mad because a knuckles metriod game would go crazy
Still think whisper would be by far the best fit
tails adventure 2 manifest....
They're blacklisted here
huh really?
Well it seems that Frontiers 2 with new characters and a 2026 release date is possible idk
So far all they've done is regurgitating shit from other people and leaked movie stuff that leaked before through black market or whatever
It seems like he's essentially has ties to Midori
and like there stuff I think
new characters are a given in the next open zone game
Sonic games do this all the time
Fake city
Just a standard fake leak
Imma put it here but apparently ||Paramount copyrighted Amy Rose fan art||
Idk if it’s true but here’s the post claiming it || https://fixupx.com/jacejohons4n/status/1843683690683216320?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ ||
||That’s either really dumb or Paramount took the wording of the post at face value||
||NOTE TO EVERYONE: DON’T POST OBVIOUS FAN ART WITH WORDING TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE ITS REAL||
It doesn't even make sense that they would copyright fan art...
And you can stop typing in these little spoiler boxes, this doesn't confirm anything regarding Amy in Sonic 3.
Like I said I didn’t know if it was true. Hence why I posted it in this channel
habit
Could also be a DMCA troll thing
And even then if it was Paramount they DMCA a buncha nonsensical shit all the time so
Eh
Yall think sega are ever gonna touch on game sonic's origin like they said they would like to in the future (some years back) or they're just gonna leave it to the films since that's the current 'agreed upon' angle with that narrative
I mean, Sonic Origins is right there

If you mean even more back? No, I don't think they'll ever touch that kettle of fish
i wouldnt even know what to do in terms of sonics actual origins
i prefer that just being left unadressed
Since when did they say they would?
And also uh, that doesn't sound like a very good idea.
Far from it, Sonic was never intended to have an origin story and that's something better off left alone.
Back when boom was in development and was going to go the route of telling an origin story of sonic & eggman, SEGA shot it down just in the case they wanted to explore it themselves in the mainline games.
Or it might have been sonic team, it's been a minute their decision making back then melds together for me lol
📑 Translated from Japanese
[Trademark Application No. 2024-108273]
Trademark: [Image] (plain text)
OCR: SONIC SPIN BATTLE
Applicant: SEGA Corporation (Shinagawa-ku, Tokyo)
Application date: October 8, 2024 Classification: Class 41 (Provision of entertainment, provision of entertainment information, provision of electronic publications, viewing ...
Close enough
Welcome back Beyblade
There is also a trademark for Sonic Jump, but I highly assume its trademark renewal as the game on the App Store was just updated yesterday
Yeah that would make the most sense
Sonic Spin Battle?
Sonic Beyblade
it’s Beyblade but with Sonic characters symbol on time so they technically can’t say they’re stealing
Eh could be another racing game or something
Well Sonic & Friends taught us this could anything
Or maybe it really could be just a Sonic take on Beyblade, that would be kinda cool to see
It’s just the characters spinning at terminal velocity to the point where they become lethal
this is my current hypothesis
Sonic Spin Battle???
why does this make me think of some kinda thing for an arcade or other interactive game machine thing
~~remembering NiGHTS Dream Wheel
~~
My hope is sonic mario party
Mu expectation is some kinda marvel snap vs card game situation where "spinning" is the mechanic
Sonic Jump is also there https://x.com/soniccitynet/status/1847295238051619108?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ
Apparently Sonic Stadium as well 💀

Sonic Stadium site in fucking shambles
Oh shit ya
Sonic Stadium is prob the soccer game
Then wtf is spin battle????
Cuz we know what the mobile games are now
They better be all over sonic stadium the game
racing game? fighting game? rpg?
wait
oh I confused it with sonic SPEED battle, for a second I thought it was the card game lmfao
it could literally be sonic beyblade, like a line of toys
But has this ever happened with a toy product?
…admittedly, no
Not sure how Spin Battle could refer to a line of toys when the application category refers to entertainment and books
"Classification: Category: 41 (Provision of entertainment, provision of entertainment information, provision of electronic publications, access to books and records, lending of books, online access to the Internet including websites or databases, etc.)"
Meanwhile, Sonic Stadium has these application categories:
"Category: 28 (Machines and appliances for amusement parks, video game machines for amusement arcades,...), 41 (Provision of entertainment, provision of entertainment information,...), 43 (Provision of accommodation, intermediation or agency of contracts for the provision of accommodation,...)"
Amusement parks and arcades?
Books is a bit weird?
holy shit, sonic amusement park
Could be a manga
Probably a mobile game
Anyone know if this dude’s track record is good or not https://fixupx.com/beyondreporter/status/1852438159272845609?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ
I keep seeing this tweet on my tl
This could be any guess
Its time for the second trailer
Anyone can be saying this stuff
There is nothing here
What do we even get from this information if its "true"
That the second trailer is coming soon?
Well yea its time
I personally think that it's gonna come sooner, going by that hidden video in paramounts playlist.
Also I just hope that the next trailer doesn't reveal too much
I’m looking at this guy’s account rn and he’s saying ||next trailer will have a surprise. Then later reveals it might be chaos control||
||is that the surprise??||
Idk 😭
||thats not a surprise thats an inevitability||
godn stop posting these guys who go and say nothing amd people eat up amyways
We saw it in the first trailer, with the motorcycle right?
🚨 The Surprise I mentioned yesterday was that "Maybe" Just "Maybe" Ticket Pre-Sale Will Start in the First Week of December Or along with the new trailer
I wasn't going to post about it because it's just a rumor, but people were already thinking it was about a character.
Also I'm petty as shit, because I don't want him to be right about this projection or 'insider' knowledge he has
That why I asked if he’s legit or not cause idk
I would personally say no.
Based off the fact he also tried to project the date for the first trailer, and got that wrong too I think


can we post rumors by The Beyond Reporter? Or nothing at all?
About the movie, I will only say the ||Wade return|| because ||it was confirmed by press credits||, the rest I'm not posting if it's not allowed
for the record I wasn't following this thread, I just read the previous posts linked which were all about this leaker lol, I'm still stuck at the time rumors weren't allowed lol
He really is.
And it deadass irritates me that he gets gassed up on stuff that's just common knowledge or something you could predict easily.
Send
I wanna see
there is a whole thread of rumors
|| - "Robotnik" (not specified which one) awakens Shadow
- Wade will return but with a short screentime (yay at least)
- There is a surprise character voiced by a woman (eh)
- The third act is very action packed
- Rouge is in some way in the film, Sofia Pernas might voice her or she's playing a human character
- He will talk about the movie again in 3 weeks (Huh??? Possibly the trailer) ||
I'm not sure what they got right before, at this point there is only one leaker who I find legit
yay
no Christmas presents for you
I don't mind, short screentime
||I'm so tired of Agent Stone being the only human character loved by fans||
the whole human cast is at least decent
THE COPE LMAO
These fans need to give up lol
Christ waaaaaah
I read that as rogue and went "mcu integration"
Not a fan of wade the young god
no i like Wade the joke is that he has less screentime
Why does Super Wade has the Fadel Hair
Sonic fans will do anything except accept the reality of the situation
“no no, but look! THIS insider says-“ THIS INSIDER WAS WRONG IDIOT
Tried to say sofia pernas might be playing rouge or a human-
SHE WAS ON SET
The new CBS series Tracker has become a breakout hit for the network. So much so that CBS has already given the greenlight for a second season of the Justin Hartley led series. This Sunday, March 24th, Tracker will air its sixth episode titled Lexington. What makes this episode so special is that Hartley's wife,
PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE
Eh?
Sus
They’ve already done 3D with prime and boom, time for 2d
i think you severely underestimate how enticing it is to make a new 3D kids show for a company like sega lmao
Plus the leaker is not super trustworthy either
Separate source told me it’s 2d
also why are we using thing guy as a source lmao
The one who goes to these paramount invite only shit
Movie sonic 2d show
They say anything else, or was that just the lil cherry on top thing?
Cherry on top thing but also he knows it’s separate from anything we’ve got
So it’s not tied to movies
Or games
Ofc it can be an adaptation from the games
But it’ll be its own separate thing
I was gonna say secret level, but I forgot that quickly that it's a show about sonic, entirely supposedly
Oh BOY
Come next sonic central, I suppose we'll see
What would this show be about lol
I would personally have the gimmick just be having different cast members linking up on different adventures that we haven't seen much of
That would be nice
If they do prime season 4 it better be COMPLETELY fucking different
Im up for an anthological show. Maybe in 2-parters 
Like it better not be written by Man of Action
Fuck i take Ian himself
Legit dont think i can even complain considered man of action created my least favorite sonic thing
I really want to know what happened behind the scenes with the man of action crew
How much was it their vision, a studio distributions vision, and SEGA'a vision before the whole lore team thing was able to catch it around the 3rd season.
And did they in fact really ignore Ian Flynn suggestions or was it a matter of those issues being to late to tweak?
It did, I just think this means more Sonic shows in general and they get to keep Prime's admitely high budget
because people didn't like it
I don't think Man of Action will do it
HA! That’s funny
2D or 3D, could go either way, and it's probably on Netflix if they were happy with Prime viewership, also considering SEGA is partnering with them again with more games
According to Ian they ignored feedback
I know it’s been about two years but it’s still crazy hearing this from you 😭
anyway, woahhhhh new tv series! I wonder if this is an actual tv show or its insiders fucking their info up and it’s just the chao tales shorts but miscommunication
Daniel’s had his moments but I’m inclined to believe him on this one
mainly because it’s so obvious
I HOPE THATS IT
like no duh they’re gonna make a new tv show!! do you know how much money they’d be burning if they didn’t
a 2D one would come out faster and would probably be cheaper but I’m sure SEGA wants some kind of visual synergy in terms of major content (Prime, Superstars, and Frontiers were all 3D)
anyway it’s really cool that this incredibly basic tidbit of information is locked behind patreon thanks leak culture for always being the fucking worst
why couldn’t it have been leaked by a wildly circulating officially posted and then deleted Twitter post like last time
Whos people
If kids like that, they hit their target
Thats what i mean by it did well
Its why i think we are still getting primes. Their targets for these are lil timmy.
do you mean Prime's team or a sequel
I want a show that takes place in the IDW storyline
you mean like a IDW adaption or just a canon sonic series
I hope this time it's set into Modern Sonic's world, the "new gimmick" should just be new characters and places
because the IDW storyline is just the “game series’ but more” kinda
My gimmick for an ideal sonic show would be it being good
Which you know, is rare
I want slice of life and arcs, like with X and even how IDW did recently
a general saga with filler episodes would be ideal
my ideal sonic series would mainly be focused on everybody going on their own episodic adventures, still having continuity but in general each episode feeling self contained
a few arcs and specials in between to bring everybody on a collision course before splitting up at the end
my ideal sonic series would be sonic but the clone wars
an anthological series with disconnected storylines that can reference eachother and build-up of them later down the line
Either one
I think my main inspiration is stuff like OK K.O and Adventure Time—a Sonic show like these would be fucking fire
Also it might be a DC crossover show
He means the energy drink
I feel like they will have a main cast, for format purposes, doesn't mean just 6-7 characters, more like few voice actors playing more characters probably
I remember Daniel Barnes designed his own little pitch bible for a hypothetical animated Sonic series that was pretty cool
You mean pitch
Link?
but yeah the cast and format thing kind of makes it hard for a show to be about 4 episodes arcs, or graphic novels a la Clone Wars
it should be up on a website I think? Sonic: The Animated Series
Not near wifi right now so I can’t exactly go for a google
was it the one inspired by SatAM where Rouge had a new drastically different design
Yeah
uhmm
I hope we have a Modern Sonic show instead, Prime was kiiinda close to that, but then it moved far away from that
this was the thing

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