Sonic Rumours & Speculation

[wind sparrow]

Huh… never actually thought about the poster dropping on Sunday https://x.com/appictures9/status/1827060516503654825?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

Alb3rt0 (@APPictures9) on X

If the official poster comes out on Sunday or Monday, then that confirms the trailer would come out Tuesday.

Twitter · Aug 23, 2024, 7:09 PM

[lone lantern]

Probably because we expect paramount to stick to their Tuesday and Thursday roots

Where we also expect something to preface the day before with a poster

[wind sparrow]

@patent hazel you think it’ll be to reveal the trailer or poster?

[patent hazel]

Neither, but promotion in the form of smth else that’ll tie to the trailer

[wind sparrow]

Interesting

[vestal sage]

Hmm... Guess we'll see.

[snow tangle]

Whatever the official poster is gonna be, Its gotta hit very hard.

I don't know how they are going to top this poster.

[patent hazel]

Yeah this one is fucking unreal

[snow tangle]

It'll be some variation of the SA2 cover

[glacial cliff]

Is that a new render

[north vault]

definitely not lol

[open maple]

Hm

[north vault]

been knocking around since movie 1 IIRC?

[open maple]

Fadel says that 3 people had told him is next week

No one that we know though

[vestal sage]

No, just a higher quality one...

[keen wren]

The japanese title reinforcing what think sega at least sega of japan feels about shadow

its neat

[glacial cliff]

I see

[open maple]

That Shadow is a fast and furious character?

/j

[vestal sage]

Sadly not transparent.

[glacial cliff]

Png fails us

[keen wren]

that's kind of a good comparison actually? Because my answer was gonna be they feel like he is to a degree his own brand and worth pushing so he gets his name on the title. Fast and furious regularly introduces another action star that purpposfully feels like another chracter from another series showing up

What i'm saying is shadow is the rock i guess?

[vestal sage]

Whatever, I'll just leave it like that

[lone lantern]

I think 3c films is being slight dooped on this recent Sonic 3 information, he just talked about in his stream about “plot details”

Cause it feels like an assortment of things that we knew of/saw prior
(Cinemacon footage aspects such as Sonic allying with eggman, trio vs shadow in the city, that Gerald info that came from that quiz a few weeks ago)

https://www.youtube.com/live/PBsLwUpKbpo?si=kg6fDUNC8flgVKcp

And obvious things such as shadow breaking out of the facility after he’s awoken and stuff.
It’s a very safe pick out of plot details imo, at least.

[left umbra]

Already confirmed to be fake

[wise turret]

Ah yes, the villains: Ultron, William Afton and Sonic the Hedgehog

[azure trail]

Oh oki, ty

A friend of mine send it to me

[indigo mortar]

Assuming this plot is true,
It has potential, imo

And at least differs from the second movie in that it isn’t another rivalry dynamic going on

Maybe Sonic trying to help Shadow, but things slowly degrees or get worse

And when it’s discovered Maria was dead, Shadow decides to turn on everyone

If they do go with this, I can see the reveal being such a heavily emotional scene

[balmy fiber]

Oh my god HELLO?!

WHERE IS THIS FROM

[balmy fiber]

LIKE WHAT

[indigo mortar]

The 3c video above

[balmy fiber]

OH REALLT

DID HE LEAK THAT SOMEHOW

[indigo mortar]

Chris talks about a scoop on what the plot is

BUT

[balmy fiber]

GOD I NEED THIS TO BE TRUE

SO BAD

THIS IS ACTUALLY REALLY INTERESTING

[indigo mortar]

He mentions that it’s legitimacy is uncertain, as all Sonic 4 rumors

[balmy fiber]

Aagahhhhhhh

THAT WOULD BE SO GOOD

[indigo mortar]

And is willing to put on a pink wig to look like Amy and apologize if it’s not true

[balmy fiber]

What

Oh lol

BUT THAT SOUNDS HONWSTLY AMAZING

[indigo mortar]

He likes to play around like that

[balmy fiber]

its such a different idea

Maybe shadow wakes up with no idea what happend to Maria

[indigo mortar]

My fingers are legit crossed, because the emotional baggage that can come from this would be great

[balmy fiber]

And he tries to find out

And sonic is like ill help you out

And shadow tries to warm up to everything

Then he learns she died

And everything falls apart

Its perfect

Oh my god thats such a good idea

We wouldnt even need another antagonist for it

Just shadow himself works

Where is the timestamp

That he talks about it

[indigo mortar]

Chris also mentions the supposed plot has Carrey as Gerald, so if that’s also true, that’ll be interesting

[indigo mortar]

28:00

[balmy fiber]

Thank you

Oh boy

That i dont like

[indigo mortar]

Well, he talks about the trailer debacle first

Then the rumored plot

[balmy fiber]

Ok

[indigo mortar]

30:30 for the plot

[wind sparrow]

2:11:36 for anyone wondering

[lone lantern]

If jim carrey is playing them both.

With this probably being his last go around in acting
(Dude has literally sold away his Hollywood house. He's deadass, dialing back atm.)

It'd be really nice if it was an tribute to some of his more serious roles in films before.

In contrast with Robotnik's eccentric evil, that is that "90's jim" as so many said.

That and I hope there's at least some very nice make up done.

[wind sparrow]

Ngl

This plot sounds awesome

[unique osprey]

oh shit

this is very interesting

[open maple]

This plot is certainly interesting

[unique osprey]

it’s also going to make SOME people very mad, which is a win in my books

[balmy fiber]

I kinda love the idea of Shadow and Sonic becoming buddies

But then

[unique osprey]

genuinely curious as to what “find Maria” entails

[balmy fiber]

Everything falls apart

[unique osprey]

not much else I can really take a guess on aside at this point so im just gonna wait for the trailer

which is next month and not Tuesday 😁

[indigo mortar]

It just sounds tragically investing

Sonic and Shadow, characters we affiliated with rivalry and clashing, pull the rug from everyone and make them friends or at least acquaintances

Them getting along being the fastest hedgehogs there is, with similar upbringings

Perhaps seeing one another as brothers, maybe
But once the truth is revealed, just when Shadow is enjoying this new world, he breaks and decides to destroy it out of rage, creating that separation between Sonic and Shadow everyone knows

[balmy fiber]

Thay sounds actually incredible

Depending on the execution

Ok so the guy just says that shadow wants to find maria

Not that he will be aquaintances with sonic at any point

[indigo mortar]

True
But I can’t imagine that not happening along the way

[balmy fiber]

I hope that happens tho

[indigo mortar]

Makes for a different relationship instead of another rivalry when we just had that in the last movie

[balmy fiber]

I love the idea of sonic being like

Ill help you find her

And then we learn shes dead, maybe

[open maple]

It is a very good change of the amnesia thing

that shadow doesn't know she is dead until he suddenly does

[balmy fiber]

And then everything falls apart, any of their friendship of destroyed, and shadow needs to be stopped

[open maple]

it kind of reminds me of Iron Man in Civil war

[indigo mortar]

Oh

And if Amy is absent

Sonic can fill that role of snapping sense back into Shadow

[balmy fiber]

Yep

[open maple]

Sonic or Knuckles, I can see either of them doing it because both passed through that trauma

[wind sparrow]

If this is his last film, they need to introduce a new main villain if they want to continue this franchise

[lone lantern]

COUGH stone & Metal COUGH

[balmy fiber]

Nah

[lone lantern]

Then who tf else

Cause I don't want stone gone, just because jim is gone.

[unique osprey]

stone and metal make the most immediate sense, but id also like a rotating cast of rivals

[lone lantern]

And at this point they already set up that he is in that wheelhouse of tech savy/apprenticeship

[wind sparrow]

https://fixupx.com/historymuppet/status/1827149394111565989?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[open maple]

I REMEMBER THAT SHOW!

[unique osprey]

the Babylon Rogues are an option thanks to previously set up lore, and Silver could work for a really good temp antagonist

[indigo mortar]

I can already kinda see it

A pre-finale fight,
Shadow trying to kill Sonic, with his chaos powers at full force, but Sonic is doing his best to evade and talk to him,

How he went through what Shadow did, and it was only years after separating from Longclaw did he learn of her fate, and like Maria, she wouldn’t want him to take it out on everyone else

[wind sparrow]

Especially after the prequel comic. You see how intimidating Stone can be with Robotnik’s gadgets

[balmy fiber]

I think its too soon to think about that

[balmy fiber]

Dude

I actually need this

[wind sparrow]

The real question is… how is the leaked storyboard gonna fit into this plot

[balmy fiber]

Right

The time travel thing

[open maple]

maybe the time travel is for shadow to know what happened

and come to terms with it

[wind sparrow]

Cause we see Robotnik using the arc. Not shadow

[wind sparrow]

Nah cause it’s Robotnik using it and Shadow trying to stop it

[indigo mortar]

Another thought, actually,
if it has Shadow beating down Sonic in the process, that would be kinda hardcore

Shadow managing to get the upper hand and just wrecking Sonic, to then realize what he’s doing to the one guy he considered a friend since his break out

[wind sparrow]

All this sounds so good

Especially if it’s Keanu as Shadow

[balmy fiber]

Sonic x Shadow Tokyo Mission

Their mission to find Maria

:p

[open maple]

lol

the plot is interesting so far, truly

[dire quiver]

||Don't we see them fighting in the storyboard leak?||

[indigo mortar]

I can’t remember honestly

[wind sparrow]

No it was the Arc and ||Super Shadow||

[dire quiver]

||We saw Super Sonic too, no?||

||I remember 1 shot of what appears to be him being grabbed by Super Shadow (or vice versa).||

[left umbra]

Just a reminder that this is Casey and Miller and Whittington writing the script.
-# I, of course, expect there to be a flatulence joke at some point. /s

[steep sequoia]

question

did we ever see picture leaks of movie 3 filming like movie 1 and 2 got

[open maple]

Nop

[steep sequoia]

like how we saw the placeholder stands and the filming of the truck scene

[lone lantern]

We saw the trio in the woods that was being filmed

Which wasn't in knuckles

[steep sequoia]

hmm

[lone lantern]

And had the big ol sonic 3 sign in the parking lot

[quaint mountain]

There was also a JP cop car, no?

[lone lantern]

Yeah, in canary wharf.
But I don't think we ever saw the stand-ins on set.

Speaking of canary wharf, there are a startling amount of sonic fans that don't understand the concept of set dressing

"Why were they filming in the UK then, if it takes place in Japan?"

[open maple]

With this movie, I think a lot of sonic fans showed the lack of knowledge in movie productions as a whole

[lone lantern]

They will not survive the winter of a cinematic universe.

[open maple]

I only know some generalities but I prefer to not speak if I don't know about a topic

[open maple]

Hopefully, next week the lack of patience is paid off

[lone lantern]

Imagine if the reaction is "THEY SHOWED TOO MUCH"

[open maple]

💀

I swear I'll become Homelander if that happens

[lone lantern]

https://x.com/ViewerAnon/status/1827161209314984045

ViewerAnon (@ViewerAnon) on X

This weekend, somewhere in America, there will be a test screening of SONIC 3. I expect 100 Sonic fans lined up at every theater just in case it’s that one.

Twitter · Aug 24, 2024, 1:49 AM

[open maple]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-piracy-great-pirate-era-gif-25153663

Sonic fans going for that test screening:

[olive vortex]

Most likely only gonna show up in California

[open maple]

I've seen some already on edge, mainly person lol

[quaint mountain]

Him trying to look for Maria only to remember/find out later on that she got shot is the only real way this would work, otherwise the movie's unironically gonna suck

[unique osprey]

I feel like that’s pretty obviously what they’re gonna do

“oh they better go down the obvious direction they’re setting up with this otherwise im gonna be really upset!!” theres nothing to really spectate on

[quaint mountain]

Who fucking knows, they can do something stupid that won't work

Or that downplays the whole tragedy hard enough to not be impactful

[unique osprey]

literally what reason is there to assume that outside from unfounded mistrust

between sonic and knuckles’ backstories, sonic’s intention to kill and knuckles’ actual kill I don’t think the series is gonna downplay anything

it’s definitely still up in the air whether or not maria will die by gun wound, but she’s still dying and it’s still gonna fucking suck for shadow

Jeff literally did an interview years back about how broken Shadow was in comparison to Knuckles. i genuinely don’t think he’d say that and then go back and tone down the intensity in turn

[lost snow]

"Find Maria" makes sense, I hope they pull it off

tbh the whole Gerald team up thing only has me excited if Carrey is playing both because I would love to see that

if it's somebody else what is the appeal

they should let him go out with a bang

they already made full use of his acting with Emerald Robotnik, so...

my take is, USE JIM CARREY

[wind sparrow]

https://x.com/vieweranon/status/1827161209314984045?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

ViewerAnon (@ViewerAnon) on X

This weekend, somewhere in America, there will be a test screening of SONIC 3. I expect 100 Sonic fans lined up at every theater just in case it’s that one.

Twitter · Aug 24, 2024, 1:49 AM

[lost snow]

https://x.com/red202525/status/1827226835882520896

Red2025 (@red202525) on X

#SonicMovie3 👀

Twitter · Aug 24, 2024, 6:10 AM

[wind sparrow]

So it’s leaked?

[quaint mountain]

Weird to use & and "and" in the same line that just mentions 3 different people

[balmy fiber]

...

[warm basin]

https://vxtwitter.com/sonicas0/status/1827284687099744540

[balmy fiber]

https://fixupx.com/sonicas0/status/1827297344183844960

[ancient moss]

they have the billing for the movie in the folder

so uh, unless this is fake (it 100% isnt though, way too many legit international logos) this is ig keanu confirmation for those that need it

[balmy fiber]

Where is Tokyo mission

[urban scroll]

I guess Colleen isn't in this

[balmy fiber]

Oof

That suuucks

I mean its top billing right

Also both rachel and randall are coming back

[ancient moss]

yeah colleen is def in the movie, likely just not top billing

[balmy fiber]

No wade top billing

[ancient moss]

its not like these are the only actors in the film

[ancient moss]

not finding that logo specifically

[balmy fiber]

Hmmm

[ancient moss]

basically every other one is there and it def looks legit idk

[balmy fiber]

Yea ik

[wind sparrow]

What’s in the doc?

[balmy fiber]

Anyways things are leaking

[ancient moss]

idk if this is even considered leaking

[wind sparrow]

Yeah it’s just a logo

[ancient moss]

i think this is just the file given to theaters prior to the trailer releasing so they can have projectors set up for it

i mean ok its def LEAKED

its not supposed to be in the hands of the public

[balmy fiber]

Well its still kind of a thing that we werent supposed to see l

[warm basin]

logos and some images

[ancient moss]

but like, its also nothing anyone would really care for

[warm basin]

not trailer

[balmy fiber]

Well

We got rachel confirmation

Lmao

[wind sparrow]

And Agent Handle

[balmy fiber]

Handle???

[wind sparrow]

Randall

[ancient moss]

the chinese logo goes kinda hard ngl

oh its a jpg idk why its not uh

loading

idk why the text just looks cool

[wind sparrow]

https://www.sonicthehedgehogmovie.com/

[balmy fiber]

I mean yea lol

[wind sparrow]

New website

[balmy fiber]

Oh

Hmmmm

[north vault]

Okay yeah it’s prep time

[balmy fiber]

Something is gonna leak from the theaters lol

[static elm]

Finally, finally i'll stop seeing those shitty leaks, finally people will shut their mouths, oh my god

Please be real just for these reasons

[balmy fiber]

Is there no jp logo?

[ancient moss]

nope

[balmy fiber]

Hm

[ancient moss]

not in this folder at least

which ig makes sense if theyre doing that alternate naming scheme

every other logo keeps the same logo design pretty much exact, even if it replaced "the hedgehog" with "the movie" or something

[balmy fiber]

Right

[wind sparrow]

Already hyping myself up

[ancient moss]

also according to that one sheet document the japanese name was one of the last approved, 2 days ago

[left umbra]

don’t forget Poland lol

[ancient moss]

that one is still keeping the general logo format though

[wind sparrow]

Honestly… I’m really glad this movie has been under wraps

[ancient moss]

the JP logo doesnt even have a 3

and also the polish title was approved back in april

while the jp and a few other ones were approved 2 days ago

i wonder if the japanese release will be delayed again

iirc it was delayed pretty hard for the previous movies?

[left umbra]

I honestly would not be surprised if that happens

but of course, we’ll most likely find out come Tuesday

[wind sparrow]

https://fixupx.com/_addiea/status/1827070009681834116?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[lone lantern]

In all honesty, yeah.

They were planning on dark knighting the film franchise, on some edgy 13 year old type beat.

[steep sequoia]

https://x.com/sonicstadium/status/1827313128045994201

Sonic Stadium ✪ Sonic News & Community (@sonicstadium) on X

The Sonic Stadium has seen a leaked #Sonic3 press pack, containing assets that confirm Keanu Reeves' involvement in the movie sequel. His name is included in a file containing a movie poster-style credits list.

Full story coming soon. #SonicNews

Twitter · Aug 24, 2024, 11:52 AM

its happening happening

[lone lantern]

Rip Wade nation, he isn't gonna be to present ig.

[balmy fiber]

Neither tails or stone

[steep sequoia]

amy whomega

[balmy fiber]

Kristen Ritter being there is kind of annoying lmao

Cuz damn

You could be a good rouge

And now you are just gonna be some random Captain Rockwell

[lone lantern]

We need our hard ass, actually capable G.U.N soldier for representation.

[ancient moss]

The folder in question was linked above fyi

[peak apex]

The fraud is back we lost

Get that mf off these soundtracks

[vale raft]

is the jp logo in the files

i wanna see it

[balmy fiber]

Nope

Was registered 2 days ago

[lone lantern]

I didn't expect Keanu to be at the tail end of actors listing.

Obviously it doesn't actually indicate much

[vale raft]

it feels so strange to realise we're in the final stretch before the trailer

[lone lantern]

Just how they ordered it

[peak apex]

So that trailer rumour is probably true right?

[static elm]

Apparently

[patent hazel]

Guys am i now valid for what i told u a few days ago then

[lone lantern]

I appreciate you

[cedar ember]

valid in my eyes

[left umbra]

Valid in my eyes as well

[patent hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-detective-adorable-group-gif-19966996

[torn scarab]

Valid in my eyes too

[wind sparrow]

Tails is dead ig 💀

[torn scarab]

He went up against shadow again

[balmy fiber]

And so is stone

[patent hazel]

Colleen wasn’t credited in the first movie 2 poster remember

Can outcry got her added

[peak apex]

He actually did die in Sonic 2 him in the post credits was just his ghost

[runic pulsar]

hm

[torn scarab]

oh shit

[runic pulsar]

this sonicas account follows me

interesting

[torn scarab]

morning dakiii

[patent hazel]

They’re a fraud bro

Claim to know stuff but

[urban scroll]

Sonic's ass?

[balmy fiber]

What do you mean fraud?

[torn scarab]

what about it

[balmy fiber]

They had the press kit

[patent hazel]

They kept saying sonic trailer drops straight after cinemacon, then June, then July then gamescom. Even said Amy would be on the film but ofc deleted those tweets

[patent hazel]

They got it off someone else

Who posted it earlier than him

I can find orignal tweet

[balmy fiber]

They gave the zip file to us

I dont see that as fraud when its real

[patent hazel]

He took them off someone else’s tweets

[lone lantern]

I think the content is legit, but I don't think sonicas is the main source of said information/material going about

They have a habit of just posting things without credit.

[torn scarab]

morning Jane

morning sgm

[steep sequoia]

Actually come to think of it do we EVER had any actual evidence over Amy?

morning btw

[north vault]

100% deliberate, believe it or not the last billing is almost as valuable for actors as the first one

like they’ll pay good money to be at the tailend

[lone lantern]

No.
Some people held onto that pink lighting down in canary wharf for a good bit.

[north vault]

Canary Wharf is just like that sometimes

[patent hazel]

Visited canary wharf last week tbf, only an hour away from me

[north vault]

there’s a good underground walkthrough there I like, runs between the Elizabeth line & jubilee stations

straight in the Waitrose down there, grab something small for the free coffee, bosh

[patent hazel]

Waitrose 😭

What’s more tory

Waitrose or M & S

[north vault]

M&S by far

[patent hazel]

Yea true

[north vault]

the clothing bits clinch it

at least with Waitrose it’s all split off into John Lewis for that

[steep sequoia]

rip lmao

[north vault]

(and like, free coffee is free coffee, I’ll take it lol)

that being said tho with Canary Wharf, one stop away is North Greenwich

big Ikea near there for the meatballs, sorted

[patent hazel]

Trueeee

[runic pulsar]

im in DM's with em

[wind sparrow]

Dakiii getting Sonic a-

[left umbra]

Just got these at my local Walmart

[wind sparrow]

See I couldn’t find them at my stores

But I did get these with my birthday money yesterday

[wise turret]

Outside of a minor usage of her name in Movie 1, nope

[wise turret]

Also welcome back!

[vestal sage]

Ok so wait, what's happened?

[left umbra]

To put it simply, a press kit was leaked

[snow tangle]

At the Walmart over here, I only saw two of the figures

Wait hold on

Spotted a shadow

[left umbra]

While we’re at it, just noticed a new executive producer: Tommy Gormley

He has previously served as an EP on two films in the most recent Star Wars trilogy (The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker), assistant director on two Mission: Impossible films (Rogue Nation and Fallout) and assistant director on Wonder Woman

[static elm]

Nvm we're cooked

[wind sparrow]

They had me then lost me

[lone lantern]

Did star wars have producer troubles or something?

Or is he like a notable name of being infamous

Or are we going strictly off the quality of the finished product of past projects he's tied to

[static elm]

The later, just for fun

[lone lantern]

Cause it can go either which way, like how I thought it was gonna be with John Whittington on board lol

[static elm]

Star wars 9 might've just been one of the only movie i regretted buying a ticket for

[lone lantern]

That man did the screenplay for lego batman and wrote for knuckles as a main writer

[static elm]

That and fant4stic

[lone lantern]

Oof

Yeah

[static elm]

Maybe he should stay an assistant director and never write ever again then

[north vault]

is the robotnik figure actually new or is it just a reused mold from 2

[static elm]

Prolly re used

Actually, maybe not cuz they added a lot of jointd on the new figures so who knows

[north vault]

yea, that's why I'm wonderin'

it loooooooooks reused but dunno for sure

[lone lantern]

His face is also different, so it might just be fairly tweaked maybe.

[north vault]

(only movie figure I've got is a sonic from 2, cos it was down cheap lol)

(albeit the one with lightning lines drawn over it, rip)

[snow tangle]

Gonna buy that little shadow figure, it appears in the Walmart app from the barcode scan

[lone lantern]

Also.
I'm honestly a fan of the Gerald idea (both ideas), if it's true.

I kinda touched on it last night when it was in conversation, but it's neat.

Depends on execution ofc.

[snow tangle]

Manage to buy it

It was like the only figure I found on the opposite side

[wind sparrow]

Happen to have the barcode? Imma see if my store is gonna get them

[left umbra]

I’ll DM them to ya in a moment

[wind sparrow]

Thx

[lost plume]

Actually could ya send them to me aswell for them

I wanna get Sonic + Shadow for my bro

[olive vortex]

Surprised the press kit got leaked

[lone lantern]

I'm glad so that the "was keanu ever really shadow" thing that was starting to brew is settled back now lol

[balmy fiber]

This will be a long journey till tuesday lol

BUT

maybe not cuz

We could get a poster before the trailer comes out

[wind sparrow]

Hey so

Is anyone else kinda scared about how Junkie is gonna use Live and Learn

[static elm]

[olive vortex]

Welp

[lone lantern]

Honestly.
Just use it how rise of the beasts used their title track in the final battle imo.

Or make it like..
Shadows leitmotif, up to the moment it's played as a revamped version.

Or hell, the Knuckles series handled a pretty solid (albeit quick) needledrop for the final battle for a rock track.

Just make it fit within the scenes tone is what I'm saying lol

[wind sparrow]

Lmao

[lone lantern]

Holy shit, we're going to see an live action shadow..

[steep sequoia]

[lone lantern]

It's really clicking in my head rn

[steep sequoia]

okay but it really wouldve been funny if keanu shadow was just a mass hallucination event

man

the shadow wave is really upon us now huh

we're in the ride for real now

[vestal sage]

So was anyone else able to download that kit?

[open maple]

It has a function

'&' usually refers to a draft written by two people at the same time. 'And' refers to a draft that was revised later on.

So basically the screenplay initially was done by Pat Casey & Josh Miller, later checked and tweaked by John Whittington

[lone lantern]

John Whittington is like a fuckin ghost compared to Pat casey and Josh's open nature towards the fanbase lol

[indigo mortar]

small thing I noticed, but it's interesting to see Marsden and Sumpter getting the "with" credit this time around, compared to having nearly first credits in the second film's,
kind of indicating smaller roles if I got that crediting correctly

I know that doesn't say much, since 2 had them in the B plot while Sonic n friends were the main leads, but still

[balmy fiber]

I kinda hope they get smaller roles lol

[indigo mortar]

Hell, along with that, Jim Carrey getting top billing this time no less

[unique osprey]

oh that trailer’s definitely coming out on Tuesday ain’t it

im fucked

goddamn

[open maple]

yessir, my calculatons of being this or next week weren't wrong

[unique osprey]

Elba got the “with” credit too tho

I don’t think this indicates relevance yet

[indigo mortar]

True :0

[vale raft]

https://x.com/mgs2master2/status/1827384632196874723?s=46

Mgs2master2 (@mgs2master2) on X

@GamesCage_ Stay strong, Trailer already leaked from some of the stuff I saw. We need the genuine reaction.

Twitter · Aug 24, 2024, 4:37 PM

what did he see

shudder

[wind sparrow]

Wait it leaked?!?

[open maple]

Not that I know of

[unique osprey]

oh my fucking god

if it’s real we’ll know by tonight

[unique osprey]

if it’s not we’ll know by tonight

[steep sequoia]

who's that guy lmaooooo

[unique osprey]

wait are they just talking about the plot details from 3C films

oh yeah new theory

is Krysten Ritter the president?

[wind sparrow]

Why tonight?

[indigo mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-knuckles-wade-whipple-knuckles-show-gif-7093161885802521175

[dire quiver]

That isn't exactly related to a trailer.

[unique osprey]

because if the sonic fandom looks hard it enough it WILL find what it’s looking for

[wind sparrow]

For those who missed it yesterday https://youtu.be/d8eR04x90Xs?si=-ttJ-ZvhnB1ERGhd

[vale raft]

someone send the tldr image again

[wind sparrow]

Well if someone finds it you think you can ping me?

[unique osprey]

kay kay

[lone lantern]

https://x.com/sw_holocron/status/1827388478776107337

Star Wars Holocron (@sw_holocron) on X

Keanu Reeves nearly played Sol in THE ACOLYTE, but scheduling conflicts prevented him from taking the role. Lucasfilm remains interested in casting Reeves in an upcoming Star Wars project

(Source: https://t.co/tPfTNWcZmm)

Twitter · Aug 24, 2024, 4:52 PM

He was too busy shadowing it up/j

[snow tangle]

He dodged a bullet.

[ancient moss]

did he?

[snow tangle]

The show didn't do very well

[ancient moss]

its not like his reputation wouldve been damaged by a mediocre series

[snow tangle]

It was so bad, Disney decided not to do a second season

[ancient moss]

disney cancels seasons for every other show, it couldve been for literally any reason

[snow tangle]

If he were in it, I doubt it would change how the show was done.

[ancient moss]

sure, but he wouldve gotten a paycheck lmao

and i hardly believe any criticism towards the show wouldve gone towards him

[snow tangle]

a paycheck for doing it yes, If he were in a Star Wars project, I could see him be some sort of Jedi

[unique osprey]

really? because from what I’ve seen people really liked the show

[snow tangle]

Where were those people?

Some of the criticism I seen was on the show's quality.

[north vault]

Tiger they were upset the show didn’t have glup shitto #26 and instead featured women

[snow tangle]

I haven't seen any of the recent star wars show, I kind of stop after season 2 of The Mandalorian, Not that it wasn't good or anything, Its just its becoming too much

[north vault]

I’m a ride or die Andor fan but everything else has sorta been ehhhhhhhh

[snow tangle]

The issue for me, is the TV shows are like filler, There are no stakes, That's for the movies to do.

[north vault]

hence why haven’t gotten to the Acolyte yet, just don’t need to star wars

they MCU’ed it too fast and all the fans want is CG Luke forever and ever

[snow tangle]

Acolyte takes place so far in the past, its far removed from the Star Wars people know, Except for some characters that I hear appear in it.

[keen wren]

I dunno about that

[snow tangle]

Too many MCU shows

[keen wren]

The show was pretty good

its unfortunate it didn't get a second season, but the actual quality of was great

[snow tangle]

a lot of these shows, the MCU ones in particular were made to setup the movies, So you had to watch them when the movie makes a quick reference to something from a TV show.

The Star Wars shows are design to fill in the blanks on things made reference to in the movies

[north vault]

man I wish the s word wasn’t banned now lol

it’s absolutely needed for like
the majority of these shows

[unique osprey]

slooop

sl0p

slope

[snow tangle]

I wish Star Wars went forward, and not backwards, Do stuff after the sequel trilogy.

[north vault]

there’s been a few good standouts here and there (really liked Ms Marvel, Andor is obvs incredible, SW Visions my beloved) but so much of it is just

sludge

[lone lantern]

I think if a trailer leaked, it would be spreading like wild fire.
Unless he means a description of the trailer or something lol

[static elm]

They actually removed all merch off of their website, i think it's insane

[keen wren]

its weird, like why did they even do that

[unique osprey]

that’s what I mean when I say that if it’s out there, it will be found

[north vault]

They’re absolutely tax writing it off huh

[unique osprey]

emphasis on if

[keen wren]

some folks think they are bending over backwards for people who are upset at " woke starwars"

[unique osprey]

this entire discourse cycle is the main reason I will never actually get into this movie series

those are the five circles of hell dawg im not touching that shit

[north vault]

they already did it with that willow show, it feels that’s the clear direction they’re going

[keen wren]

I mean , i don' blame you. Star wars is terminally enjoyed by horrific bigots who do not understand starwars but want to gate keep it and whatever legitimate critque you may have will be forever well poisoned by some guy who think women shouldn't be on screen

[steep sequoia]

Not wrong in some aspect

It's hard to even give a shit about star wars nowadays, but at least the live action

The games and animated shows are still worthwhile

[north vault]

One (1) movie where their main guy was imperfect really did drive some of them off the deep end huh

or like, a concerning amount of them

[unique osprey]

I still can’t comprehend the idea of them taking an old character and recreating them using CG instead of just getting a lookalike

like what the fuck is the deal with this series

[snow tangle]

Do they know about Princess Leia? She's a major part of Star Wars.

[keen wren]

she was created before they got radicalized so she's magically fine

that's how that works btw. "Women before i got turned into a weirdo good, all women after bad "

[open maple]

While I do think the acolyte was certainly flawed, I felt the discourse was extremely mean spirited towards the series in general and disingenous

[north vault]

“These films were never political when I was a kid!!” ass move

[keen wren]

Media somehow got "woken when i got radicallized it was it that changed, not me

[keen wren]

People tried to do that with ATLA, its crazy

[open maple]

Like, most of the critiques I've seen were of things that either the originals or the prequels did

But here were bad for some reason

[north vault]

Sometimes people get a little too into the empire & stormtroopers and all I can think of is the peep show bit with the nazis

[lost snow]

Nobody pointed out Rachel and Randall are back in the movie

[north vault]

https://youtu.be/PiLVAz-Jczg?si=4O39SdWdhIqnusrl

[lost snow]

this is gonna be questionable

[snow tangle]

The Acolyte was a series that took place in a era before the Star Wars most of these fans are familiar with, There are no stormtroopers, Smugglers, The Empire, Things you commonly associate with OG Star Wars, When you try to go beyond that, people complain for it looking different, I seen this same discorse with the prequels.

[unique osprey]

it was genuinely appalling to see a clip rapidly circulating of xmen 97 where an in-universe minority gets beat up and people were agreeing with the BAD GUY

[open maple]

That was one of the biggest media literacy checks I've seen because the guy was an hypocrite

[steep sequoia]

I wanted to get KOTOR chars get the chance but at the same time..... I Feel too pessimistic over it becauese how Star wars is handled

[open maple]

he had a suit ready to kill anyone while Cyclops, even without his visor mind you, made sure to try to not hurt anyone

[lost snow]

they will only make money out of the Mandalorian over a green doll and no plot

The Acolyte actually had a plot

but everybody just hated it for racist and homophobic and sexist reasons

[balmy fiber]

I did im popping bottles

[lost snow]

sorry not everybody, every troll

[balmy fiber]

Please let Rachel drive the gun truck

[unique osprey]

YES

[open maple]

LET HER BE CRAZY

[lost snow]

Randall was not fired??? Biggest plot twist here

[balmy fiber]

I mean lets see what he does

[lost snow]

right

[lone lantern]

If he was or wasn't fired, he's still apart of the family lol

[snow tangle]

New Rockstar did a video on what happened to the show, and the state of Star Wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb2xgbokqKA

[keen wren]

this is a good bit thank you for showing me this

[lost snow]

I think they cancelled it, jokes aside, because it was very pricey and they thought it did not get enough views

[lone lantern]

I have a gut feeling that the wachoswki's (by extension, Rachel and Randall) are going to be in one remote area, that is the home.

While the boys are going about.

[lost snow]

I remember hearing it cost a lot

[open maple]

Not really

[tardy pivot]

I'm surprised that there hasn't been a proper star wars movie since rise of skywalker. Are they really that afraid?

[snow tangle]

That's one of the things i heard, The show was too expensive, Maybe its why they aren't doing a second season, They spend too much on it, and it wasn't getting enough viewers.

[lone lantern]

Maybe used as a window from the grounded perspective of seeing all the wild shit go on through slim news and what not.
Kinda like SA2

[lost snow]

There are 3 movies in development officially, the Mandalorian one, the Rey Skywalker one, and a jedi origin movie

the Mandalorian film is already being filmed

it's not a Disney Plus film

[snow tangle]

What about the Rogue Squadron movie, Last I heard it was back on track

[lost snow]

yeah

[snow tangle]

The Rogue Squadron movie is my most anticipated

[lost snow]

Anyway, I'm still bitter towards Star Wars and Disney right now

I'd rather not talk about it

[tardy pivot]

True, I just find it weird that it's been this long

[lost snow]

there was also the Lando film...

[snow tangle]

One of the things that I liked about Star Wars, Was the space battles, It wasn't the Jedi and all that stuff in between, But the cool space ship battles.

[balmy fiber]

Let rachel run the truck into shadow

[snow tangle]

Rogue Squadron to me is gonna be like a Top Gun in space

[tardy pivot]

So...the star wars?

[lone lantern]

Speaking of Lando, I'd love for Donald glover to get a part in these films

[lost snow]

RIP Rachel?

[snow tangle]

Yeah, The actual Star Wars part of it

[lone lantern]

Don't matter who, he's always gonna be a highlight (spider-man homecoming, Adventure time, etc.)

[lost snow]

if they made a Solo project, besides the Lando movie

I think if Rachel and Randall are in the movie, and they live in San Francisco, part of the movie will be there like SA2

so good news? Besides Rachel herself being in of course

[balmy fiber]

I wonder how will the tokyo stuff work out

I hope its not just

The wachowskis go to tokyo

[lost snow]

and of course abs the character

[balmy fiber]

I rather like

Tokyo be the place they are searching for Maria

[unique osprey]

Depends on how involved the wachowskis are

[lost snow]

Rachel and Randall are on honeymoon in Japan, Sonic goes there to ruin it

[balmy fiber]

Why tokyo as honeymoon lmao

[snow tangle]

If Tokyo plays a part in the movie, Maybe its a place of origin, The facility that is holding Shadow could be somewhere in Japan.

[unique osprey]

Does anybody have a copy of that press kit that leaked? I’m trying to download it but it’s incredibly swamped rn

[lost snow]

Sonic X Shadow Tokyo Honeymoon

[steep sequoia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuJDhFRDx9M they should play this in the movie

[balmy fiber]

Oh

[balmy fiber]

Found a fanfic name

[north vault]

I keep on forgetting the wachowskis are the name of the family in the movies and not like

the sisters that directed the matrix are now involved

[balmy fiber]

Lmao

[lost snow]

Reminder Sonic's name is Wachowski too

[unique osprey]

sonic, you have two pills

[keen wren]

also this

https://youtu.be/83mhHOytg4U?si=BmBLQNGZdOOMDfa8

[unique osprey]

if you take the red one, the sonic movies never happened

[snow tangle]

The supposed title in Japan mentions Tokyo, So it has to factor into something major.

[unique osprey]

if you take the blue one, you uhhhhh

you

erm

I forgot

[north vault]

the blue one is estrogen

[static elm]

Because tokyo is so fucking cool

[unique osprey]

Estrogen, you get estrogen

[balmy fiber]

True

[keen wren]

This time the blue pill is T

[steep sequoia]

jp purists winning with this one

[keen wren]

Prince blaze is here

[unique osprey]

Oh yeah follow up on this

[steep sequoia]

sonic finally going back to japanese roots

[dire quiver]

Not worth it, you lose Shadow on the theatre screen.

He's the best.

[north vault]

you say this as if Shadow's game is not The most trans metaphor possible

[static elm]

Pepito is gonna be even more annoying than before

[keen wren]

Imma be honest. Me and a friend were talking, there's quite a bit of trans meaphor all over the series. I don't think any of it was intentional...but there's a lot

Like there's a whole lot

[dire quiver]

Maybe it's intentional, possibly canon.

[north vault]

he literally ends every path with "this is who I am" and the whole thing's about forging his own path despite what his origins say he should be

[dire quiver]

But anyway, he is the ultimate life form.

[keen wren]

Transman sonic real

[north vault]

thread on "could estrogen have saved yuji naka" locked after 200 pages of heated debate

[keen wren]

I hope one day they continue from that point in his story again

[elder laurel]

is that the treshold entertainment font

[lone lantern]

So with test screenings (supposedly) going on for sonic 3, what do yall think the reception will be like?
(Off the little we know.)

[unique osprey]

I have no idea frankly

[snow tangle]

If they had test screenings, we probably won't know about it, If the people who got to see it had to sign an NDA.

[steep sequoia]

Sorry bro I think I prefer this

[snow tangle]

Tokyo is a good place to have a City escape scene.

[torn scarab]

what

[keen wren]

there's a whole genre of person who i slike " avatar isn't political or 'woke' " and it is simply because they watched it before gamergate happened and broke their brain

[lone lantern]

I mean no offense by this to any fans that are hoping for it, but the ark is not about to be planet sized like in the games on the accuracy side.
Like, I’m sure it’ll be big.
But not THIS big lol

[balmy fiber]

It will be as accurate to a space colony from the 70s lmao

[lone lantern]

Exactly

Hit me with that 70’s futurism baby

[snow tangle]

I could see that being in the movie, If it was kept hidden on the dark side of the moon due to the top part looking like its part of the Moon.

[north vault]

the best part about the movies is keeping the 50 years ago thing for shadow but two decades later means we get 70s tech instead of 50s tech in this

such a goddamn upgrade lol

(granted I would've also been very okay with 60s tech, gimme badniks that look like daleks and robbie the robot)

[snow tangle]

If they stick to the 70s tech, and add a little bit of reverse engineering from alien technology.

The 70s tech should be something like the retro future tech from the Alien movies

[north vault]

hmm

[snow tangle]

CRT monitors and all that stuff

Like when they go to get Shadow out of that cryochamber, Its a CRT monitor with a bunch of text on it

[north vault]

I think with the ARK being a lab it'd be prolly tidier than alien's tech, more logan's run than alien

[lone lantern]

Ooo, what if they have 70’s art that promotes the ark?

A type of space propaganda of some kind

[north vault]

ooooohhh god yes

[balmy fiber]

Oh my god yes

[north vault]

honestly if they do that I'd beg em for an artbook for the film

on my hands and knees grovelling

[snow tangle]

If they can built the ark in the style of Syd Mead's future art.

[north vault]

oh GOD yea

[lone lantern]

And then there’s the added on aspect of the ark being abandoned, out in space

[snow tangle]

It has to look lived in, and not looking like something sleak and shiny.

[lone lantern]

And I’d imagine it’s like an abandoned future paradise on the inside, that holds a lot of weight and is kind of falling apart, ykwim?

[snow tangle]

Something along the lines of Tomorrowland

[north vault]

god I forgot how much of a swizz that tomorrowland film was

imagine that art direction but like

in a good film lol

[snow tangle]

The whole thing about the ark, It would have been something that a secret organization was working on right after the moon landing.

[north vault]

Ohhh shit yeah true, it lines up well that way

[balmy fiber]

Yea

The moon landing might be an aspect of it

[snow tangle]

They land on the moon, and they have a group of scientist lead by Gerald to built an Ark on the dark side of the moon, and kept it a secret.

The US landed on the moon more then once.

They landed again on the moon in 1972, That right there will be around the 50 year mark

It was Apollo 17

That took place on December 7 to the 19

Sonic 3 comes out on December 20th

December 7 will mark the 50th anniversary of sixth moon landing

You see? This all lines up

[torn scarab]

I’m at target rn

pray for me

hopefully I’ll see em

[snow tangle]

Good luck

[torn scarab]

also wtf a glasses shop has glasses that connect to a phone using meta

[snow tangle]

maybe those have a display, or a camera

they have smart glasses that have camera lenses

[torn scarab]

Yeah they do, trying to see how they work without outright picking them up because I know I can’t afford them

[snow tangle]

https://www.ray-ban.com/usa/ray-ban-meta-smart-glasses?srsltid=AfmBOoossOwf2QGcQ-20ejzhKWpycacX91BL1UtGAf5dPdtVZm7bSQov

[torn scarab]

Me and my friends scanned the entire toy section, wasnt there

Guess target doesn’t have them, or mine at least

[rough echo]

How about 2001 A Space Odyssey technology?!

[lone lantern]

So since it’s kind of cooled down on the Colleen billing thing

[balmy fiber]

Yeaaa?

[lone lantern]

How many Sonic fans do you think actually read those thin ass letters at the bottom of the poster/promo art

[balmy fiber]

Not many

[lone lantern]

Not to negate it ofc lol

[open maple]

Not many

[wind sparrow]

Don’t come near me or my sons again!

[balmy fiber]

Man the face of the new one is so

Off putting lol

[wind sparrow]

It really is lol

Hold on watch this lol

Don’t come near me or my son’s sons again

[urban scroll]

I now have stakes in this

[balmy fiber]

Wow its huge

Thats life sized sonic

[left umbra]

I usually only read them to add information that normally isn’t sourced or doesn’t require one to wiki pages about films (e.g. cinematographer and editor)

[snow tangle]

As soon as I read that, This short came to my mind. 😂 So Sonic got a kid? https://youtube.com/shorts/ASsrslxQLeo?si=Ntvv4HfiCX5KOilx

Not into collecting toys, But had to get the Shadow to put next to the other figures.

[azure trail]

He looks cute

[wind sparrow]

Time to start my binge watch of anything with Shadow in it 🫡

Gonna be watching all these til the trailer on Tuesday:

Sonic X (SA2 arc)
Sonic Movie 1 tomorrow
Knuckles series on Monday
Sonic 2/ Movie 3 trailer on Tuesday

[balmy fiber]

Lol nice

[patent hazel]

AMC just listed sonic 3 on their website

https://www.amctheatres.com/movies/sonic-the-hedgehog-3-70707

[lone lantern]

On the ‘coming soon’ slate?

[snow tangle]

Yeah, but for some reason listed as animation

[patent hazel]

Amc tend to list films when they’re close to trailer release don’t they

I mean im from the uk i wouldn’t know

[lone lantern]

Sonic 2 is also listed as animation, so I wouldn’t take it at face value

[wind sparrow]

https://fixupx.com/addiechao_/status/1827404005376495754?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[torn scarab]

Those hands look like they could choke me

I am now scared

[wind sparrow]

https://x.com/veronyxlol/status/1827529488663470468?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

veronyx (@veronyxlol) on X

@Sonic1News not my source!! theyre from @sonicas0 there's a zip file with all the leaked files

Twitter · Aug 25, 2024, 2:12 AM

2KTrailer?

[glacial cliff]

Fake

Or

Not fake

But like

Irrelevant

It's 800 KB while zipped

A trailer would not be this small

It's probably the logo trailer if anything

[patent hazel]

Top right says 2ktrailer

[wind sparrow]

Oh

[patent hazel]

These are trailer credits

[glacial cliff]

Yeah

All the files are too small

[wind sparrow]

Hey sooooo I’m gonna draw Movie Sonic… what Sonic render would y’all like to see Movie Sonic in?

[vestal sage]

Wait, what's the debate here regarding this?

[wind sparrow]

I can’t take these posts anymore 😭 https://x.com/kittyaguda/status/1827506556251918786?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

ATM / ATS NEWS (@kittyaguda) on X

CONFIRMED: Sonic The Hedgehog 3 trailer 1 IS coming on Tuesday, and it was confirmed 1 hour ago.

Trailer when: During afternoon
2:00PM - 7:00PM

The https://t.co/IjkmCw7iqI website is unavailable and will be available after the trailer!

#SonicMovie3

Twitter · Aug 25, 2024, 12:41 AM

[open maple]

💀

[torn scarab]

Just give us the trailer to shut them up😭

I’m hyped for 3 but even I can’t take this anymore

[vale raft]

he could just lie and we'd never know

[patent hazel]

He is lying lol

If they say ‘it’s been removed’ then they’re chatting out their ass

[left umbra]

It’s 100% gotta be 9AM EDT

[wind sparrow]

I’m just tired of these posts popping up on my tl 😭

This trailer can’t come soon enough fr

[torn scarab]

If I have to see one more person post about 3’s trailer, I’m gonna fucking charge the bazinga bomb and destroy all sonic media on this planet

[balmy fiber]

POST THE GODDAMN FUCKING TRAILER

[torn scarab]

live footage of paramount burning the trailer

https://tenor.com/view/fire-flames-king-andrias-amphibia-disney-gif-25410820

[balmy fiber]

Someone leak this damn trailer already lol

[torn scarab]

I wouldn’t even be mad if it was leaked

[wind sparrow]

At this point please

I can’t take Sonic twitter anymore

[indigo mortar]

the trailer will come out on Sonic 3's VOD release

[vestal sage]

Imagine if...

Obviously don't have it.

[balmy fiber]

Astro if you have it give it to us

I dont care anymore

I just need this to end

Waiting till tuesday is so dreadfulllll

[vestal sage]

Funny thing, I think I know exactly where that leaked kit came from. I don't have access to it but I know.

[balmy fiber]

Cool cool

[vestal sage]

Btw, those weird guides in those images are for stuff like this (Using a Sonic 2 trailer for example):

[balmy fiber]

Ohhh

[lone lantern]

https://x.com/GamesCage_/status/1827664366864621953

GamesCage - Hype Guy (@GamesCage_) on X

‼️BREAKING RIGHT NOW FROM TOKYO JAPAN‼️

WHAT’S GOING ON HERE @SonicMovie 😗😗😗😗😗😗???

LOOKIN LIKE ITS ALMOST TIME….

Twitter · Aug 25, 2024, 11:08 AM

ITS ABOUT THAT TIME

[quaint mountain]

He's come to make an announcement

[lone lantern]

Damn if marketing is starting there maybe japan really is the central setting.

Well, not entirely central.
But a big part lol

[vale raft]

what the

[steep sequoia]

https://x.com/Leaph77/status/1827314813862633783

Leaph (@Leaph77) on X

If this turns out to be true, I'll draw Rouge twerking

Twitter · Aug 24, 2024, 11:59 AM

Gdi leaph

[balmy fiber]

Might as well prepare leaph

[solemn flower]

Wouldn’t be surprised if this shows up in Times Square

Which probably will end up happening

[wind sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dreggman-announcement-gif-26041633

[balmy fiber]

I hope we never use this again for sonic 3

[left umbra]

We’ll use it for Sonic 4 /s

[wise turret]

The Sonic x Shadow Gens rumors and leaks in the corner

[unique osprey]

As long as sonic keeps creating content this channel will never die

[ancient moss]

guys i heard theyre adding zazz to the post credits

[vale raft]

true

[strong flax]

sonicmovie on tiktok posted about keanu

sonic movie social suddenly reposting fadel's post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J6-3l3hCm0

[muted kernel]

they reposted it btw

[wind sparrow]

Already discussed in #1129422896217997353

[glacial cliff]

Is that their banner and profile pic for real?

😭

They were too far gone before this

[muted kernel]

yes

[unique osprey]

this is the part where

[wind sparrow]

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Legit can’t tell if it’s fake or not

[olive vortex]

Shadow looks ai as fuck

But that knuckles kinda spot on 😭

[balmy fiber]

Thag might be real cuz uh

That tv spot was real

[lost plume]

actually fuck

[balmy fiber]

Same eye

[wind sparrow]

It has the shot from the tv spot so I was on the fence

[balmy fiber]

Yea like

Is the tv spot real so is this

[lost plume]

uyghhh I can't tell

[balmy fiber]

I think its real

Somehow

Cuz its the same eye

[lost plume]

the Shadow warp looks AI but

[balmy fiber]

And the tv spot is real

[lost plume]

fuck

[balmy fiber]

Yea the shadow wrap lookscoff

[wind sparrow]

That’s what I was thinking when I saw it

[balmy fiber]

But the shadow shot may be real

[unique osprey]

the footage itself looks like ai

The shadow shot could be real

HOWEVER

(and this could just be compression)

[wind sparrow]

Like it looks like he’s not even moving. Just being dragged

[unique osprey]

there’s no rain on the shadow leak preview

[lost plume]

we'll see by tomorrow

[left umbra]

People not understanding how post production works, me thinks

[unique osprey]

I guess

[balmy fiber]

Yea

[unique osprey]

It is worth mentioning that I don’t think prompt video is advanced enough to have like, multiple actions

That chaos control seems a little too precise

but then again that still leads to my other theory (slapped together in blender)

[dire quiver]

I hate A.I's existence. 💀

[unique osprey]

Hell there’s a chance that somebody saw that promo before anybody on Twitter and simply ran it through a generator

[lone lantern]

I think the knuckles shot is just unfinished (as most trailers tend to be).
That or it’s a very weird composition, because it’s honestly just shadows lack of movement that kinda throws it off from his chaos control. Which, I guess if it’s supposed to be some big reveal the idea is to like..linger on his sudden appearance ahead of him.

Because I thought it was AI to, but something this complex and fairly consistent without flaw along with the video of the close up matching..?

[balmy fiber]

The eye is the same as the tv spot

[steep sequoia]

I am more bothered by the movement Shadow is doing during the 2nd part

Like why is he not moving?

[left umbra]

If anything, the compression is just horrible enough for people to think it’s AI

[unique osprey]

im leaning more towards fake right now but again we’ll have to see

[balmy fiber]

How is it fake

If the eye

THE EYE

[dire quiver]

What makes it hard for us to decide whether it could be A.I is that the video is in very low quality.

[unique osprey]

There are differences

[left umbra]

Think of it like a default pose for the model

[dire quiver]

We cannot see the imperfections.

[steep sequoia]

hmm fair tho

[wind sparrow]

See I can’t tell 😭

[balmy fiber]

Its the same

[wind sparrow]

That’s why I asked y’all 😭😭

[unique osprey]

I know the clip is compressed but like, there’s a lot of water in that tv spot

I feel like we’d see at least SOME of it in this apparent leak

The fur is also way more prominent in the leak then in the teaser promo

[dire quiver]

The only thing that throws me off is Shadow's pose and the lighting.

[unique osprey]

Ugh am I gonna have to subscribe to paramount pictures so I get the trailer notification

[lone lantern]

Yeah, other than that it isn’t bad. Which is why I feel like it’s just unfinished or an very odd comp of trying to emphasize the chaos control

[dire quiver]

Like, Knuckles and everything else looks perfectly fine here.

Even the Chaos Control effect.

[lone lantern]

Like “oh shit, he just appeared” and they hold onto his pose a tad too long at worst

[unique osprey]

for the record knuckles looking “really good” could also just be a matter of AI being really disturbingly advanced now 💀

[balmy fiber]

I think shadow could be like, the case of like, him posing slowly and then moving around to kick the shit outta knuckles

[unique osprey]

I saw a ai generated vid a few days back depicting a bunch of major political figures shooting up gas stations so an accurate knuckles is definitely not off the table at this point 💀

[dire quiver]

I think I will lean towards fake for this one, because there is something that feels off.

[unique osprey]

shadow’s figure seems a little skinny, yeah?

like compared to what we’ve seen officially

[balmy fiber]

But... the eye... the eye is proven to be real

Ks the same eye shot from the tv spot

.....

[unique osprey]

yeah the eye but that doesn’t mean a 1:1

[balmy fiber]

IT IS

[lone lantern]

Plug, it’s legit

[balmy fiber]

PLUG

THE TV SPOT

WITH THE SAME SHADOW CUT

[unique osprey]

it doesn’t even line up all the way, I mentioned the differences before

[balmy fiber]

IS REAL

[unique osprey]

it’s not the exact same cut, the trailer one looks to be a still shot

[balmy fiber]

what do you MEAN

[unique osprey]

look im not making bets or anything but im not fully convinced that the similarities = same shot yet

[balmy fiber]

CUZ THEY CUT BEFORE THE SHOT THEY GOT THE TV SPOT

ITS NOT SIMILAR IS THE SAME

[unique osprey]

except the entire supposedly leaked clip is a slow camera movement

you’d see some of that movement in the promo if it was the same clip

the shot wasn’t so short as to where some movement couldn’t have been caught

[lone lantern]

They could’ve just cut the length and held it still to focus on one eye in the promo

[dire quiver]

Hmm...

[balmy fiber]

ITS THE SAME

[unique osprey]

his eye is deeper on the right

[balmy fiber]

EVEN THE BACKGROUND

[unique osprey]

not the bg

[balmy fiber]

No fucking way

[dire quiver]

I can't exactly spot anything that looks wrong with his model/design.

[lone lantern]

I’m gonna stick with the idea that the recorded footage is just unfinished aspects until the trailer arrives tomorrow.
The thing is hours away, we’ll know .

[unique osprey]

the eye shape is different

In the second clip, his quills are smaller and his eyes look a little closer to movie sonic’s

[balmy fiber]

NO ITS NOT

ITS THE CAMERA ANGLE

[stiff skiff]

Kinda hope this is real cause i wanna see shadow 1v3 them and win 😭😭

[unique osprey]

his body is also skinnier

[dire quiver]

Okay, so I must come to a conclusion that: this is either real, or A.I has become absolutely insane.

[lone lantern]

Plug, I’m gonna be honest. I think a vast majority of those differences you find is the potato quality of the camera at most here

[unique osprey]

Idk man idk

[balmy fiber]

HIS EYES ARE SHARPED IN THE TV SPOT CUZ HES FROWNING A BIT MORE
THE BACKGROUND IS THE SAME
THE FUR IS THE SAME
THE EYE POSITION IS THE SAME
THE TV SPOT IS THE SAME THING BUT 4 FRAME AHEAD OF THE SHOT OF THE LEAK

[tardy pivot]

it could just be that it's a different frame

[dire quiver]

I think a lot of things seem to match here.

[tardy pivot]

the shot is of him slowly frowning right?

[unique osprey]

look okay im already a clown if these clips are the exact same in the trailer tomorrow ill take the L, but with the record in mind that the clips in question look weird whether official or not

Like if they’re real they feel especially at odds with the typical cinematography of the films

[balmy fiber]

Ok that i get

But im not gonna question it if the eye is the same but frames away

Like that shot of shadow

That is real

Im sure of it

But the knuckles one thats a little off

But to me, i feel they are making so shadow stays in the same pose slowing down

And then time returns to normal and he beats the shit outta knuckles

[dire quiver]

The Chaos Control effects are interesting.

[unique osprey]

Is that a car

[lone lantern]

He’s standing on a pile of em.

As far as I can tell

[dire quiver]

By the way, you can still see a lot of small imperfections on that video if you look a bit close.

I don't know how A.I would even fare doing Sonic characters.

[azure trail]

There already is one

[dire quiver]

There is?

[azure trail]

Ye

[unique osprey]

I just thought up a worse case scenario but I fear that if I speak it into being it’ll come true

[dire quiver]

Davih, we are talking about A.I generated videos specifically.

[dire quiver]

Just do it.

[unique osprey]

This is AI generated and official, and the studio is using gen AI for shots in the film

[tardy pivot]

If we really wanna nitpick this then the pose, the left hand and right shoe are lookin pretty off

[balmy fiber]

I dont think this is ai generated im sorry

We are looking from far away

I think we are jumping into conclusion of a shot

That could look pretty cool at the end

[unique osprey]

…the movement, though

[balmy fiber]

Specially if shadow after this goes crazy with movement

[dire quiver]

Well, that sure would be something.

[balmy fiber]

I dont think thats the case, i feel we are really overthinking this

[dire quiver]

I doubt that they would use A.I like this though, even if we know they're not against using it.

[balmy fiber]

Maybe this is a pre production shot and things are a little unfinished

Im not gonna jump to AI conclusions

[azure trail]

The movement is just pretty smooth which could lead to make you think is ai generated

[olive vortex]

Also might be the quality of the screen tooo

[lone lantern]

Plus they already have a model for him, there’d be no merit for using ai to have him pop in either.
I honestly just think it’s an early VFX thing. (Via, Sonic 2 as reference for a few things).

At worst, a weird composition in motion and the quality of it.

[azure trail]

But it doesn't even look like a shot from the movie but more like a promo gif

[dire quiver]

See, when I look at this, I really can't notice anything that looks off...

The lighting being off could be the doo-doo camera quality.

[lone lantern]

That and the shot could extend further than what is shown

Like shadow starts to move to kick or evade or something.

[dire quiver]

But his model and the movements? They look accurate at further inspection.

[balmy fiber]

Thats what im saying

[dire quiver]

I think I'll lean into that this looks real now.

[balmy fiber]

Btw look

Around his eyes

The shine

Like on the tip top

[unique osprey]

Yeah it’s not the same

[lone lantern]

The actual product does more justice than..overlayed blue screen record from a 2000’s camera

[balmy fiber]

What

Yes it is

[unique osprey]

the bottom part of the curl is more prominent in the left image

[lone lantern]

Plug, is the tilt throwing you off?

[balmy fiber]

Yes

[azure trail]

Man why does recording the screen leaks always look like shite

[balmy fiber]

It is

[azure trail]

Lmfao

[balmy fiber]

Plug is looking at the eye shape

[unique osprey]

bro it’s not the tilt I promise im not going crazy

[balmy fiber]

I have a feeling youa re lmao

If you still think its not the same

Look at the shine fur

[unique osprey]

I am and im not convinced

[balmy fiber]

How the fuck

[unique osprey]

im literally flicking through both images left to right

[lone lantern]

The promo official close up, is only focused on one eye. It cuts off a bit of the face + it’s quick in showcase, and I’m fairly certain it’s a still shot of the same exact shot due to the glitching effect they use.
It’s the same shape, but the brightness of the hand record throws some things off and blends some aspects I think.

[balmy fiber]

Plug holy fuck dude

[azure trail]

You can tell is the same one by just looking at the eye shape lmao

[dire quiver]

Plug, this is what happens when you become a clown.

[unique osprey]

look look look

look

look

okay

listen

[azure trail]

No

You listen

[unique osprey]

i did listen

I did look

and im being real when i say that i dont really see it

[azure trail]

BigOof

[dire quiver]

But, it's not like A.I could be this good. Especially with Sonic characters out of everything.

[balmy fiber]

Plug look at the fur

Is the same

The shine

The lighting

The eye

Its the same but frames away

The tv spot one is when it gets closer