Sonic Rumours & Speculation

[snow tangle]

there's this other producer Don Murphy

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Don_Murphy

[north vault]

what on earth are you doing on the fandom wiki

we only recognise tfwiki in this house

incredible individual

[snow tangle]

To be honest, Transformers was better off without Michael Bay's input, which is why the recent movies did well

[north vault]

the new ones are still done under his production company! including One!

(granted spielberg's still got an exec producer role on One and I don't really see him having much say in these lol)

[snow tangle]

Yeah, but he hasn't added any imput to them

Sometimes they just add there names for the recognition

even if they hardly had any input on the movies, they just put it there

Michael Bay was pretty hands on with the two live action TMNT movies, The whole thing that happened with the 2014 movie, Where they had to do a bunch of reshoots.

[lone lantern]

Yeah man, Amy & Rouge introductions in one movie would’ve been a mess..

I say this as I look back on my prewrite ideas, and while I’m no Hollywood writer. This is..NOT it, and I think the writers knew that to

[open maple]

"B-but sa2 did it"
Yes, and look how Amy and Knuckles were handled in sa2

I adore the game but it definetely doesn't have the best handling of the cast it used for the narrative

[north vault]

just found out lorrey z is the one who defended the romeo & juliet law scene

[lone lantern]

The game that had the luxury of having 2 story modes for each side in campaigns. Amy being an already established character in the franchise beforehand. Different world building, and pre-existing context/story links in past games as well.

[steep sequoia]

The series when it comes to char handled just dwindled since SA2 honestly

Where some chars shine well while some don't

Only exception are just Sonic and Shadow until Unleashed

nah nvm on Eggman 💀

[open maple]

Yep, that too.

[lone lantern]

That and these films prioritize background info or to some extent a background that these characters come from.

Amy and Rouge are no doubt gonna be given that to some extent to, and with a movie with shadow headlining. I just know it’d be fairly compact and maybe cluttered

[steep sequoia]

Which basically: Tails

[lone lantern]

I think it’s best to just..not fall into that 3rd film in a trilogy pitfall

[steep sequoia]

Tails despite being a very iconic char is poorly handled in sonic movie

[lone lantern]

They def got who he is in characterization fairly well. Backstory isn’t to far off in adaptation terms, it was definitely the usage of how he was balanced out with Knuckles that really did him in for something that could’ve been sharpened better.

But, at least with movie 2’s ending. It could set us on that familiar arc of coming on his own independence. He’s found the confidence, despite his anxiety/lack-there-of. So, I don’t think it’s to far fetched

That is unless the trio just have a joint arc in 3 ofc.

Like mutant mayhem, and such and such.

Which is why I wished that segment in the snowboard chase stayed where tails faces off against eggman on his own

[steep sequoia]

To me it's more that I wish they could have done more with Tails

But at the same time......

You basically introduce both Tails and Knuckles

[lone lantern]

He was supposed to have a whole knack for overthinking human culture and being over suspicious, and it got cut down to like 2 moments. And I mourn it, because the movie versions of these characters have lil quirks like that I like

He feels like he’s ripped straight from the games, as that’s a pro and con to me at times.
But, my hope is that with him being apart of the established main character group. He gets his time to shine.
(PLEASE PUT THE CYCLONE IN THERE)

[ripe cypress]

The whole "don't put too many characters in" critique has run hollow since Spiderverse, TLW, MM, and other movies to me. Just because some movies do the juggle of more than one or two new additions isn't representative of how actually possible it is to use more than two or three new additions; just that some filmmakers fail while there are others that succeed

Not that the Sonic movies would be able to do this, otoh

[open maple]

I think it's less the amount of characters in general and more so the amount of principal characters in it. Even Spiderverse and such have a focused number of characters even if, in the greater scheme of the movie, they have plenty of them.

The first one has Miles, Gwen and Peter B as main ones, and even when it adds Noir, Penny and Spider-man Ham into the fray, it still feels like it focuses on the former three ones.. Beyond also works with this, having Miles and Gwen as the main focus of the story

[ripe cypress]

Of course; no one is asking Amy and Rouge to be the central focus of the story, just that they be used in the movies to begin with

With Spiderman, there's more than just principle characters though

Spider Man 3 made so many people say that multiple villains at the same time leads to disaster, but Spiderverse managed to incorporate not one, not two, but three major villains in a relatively significant way that didn't interfere with the focus of their inclusions individually

Alongside many additional appearances from fan favorite threats without bringing the story down whatsoever

[open maple]

In the case of Spider-man 3, it's less the amount and more so how each one was in their corner doing their stuff but without getting synergy from the others

Whatever Venom did had little to nothing to do with Sandman or Harry; what Sandman did had little to nothing to do with Harry or Venom; and same goes for Harry

Spiderverse (I assume the first one is the one we're talking about) has as main one Kingpin while the other two were workers of Kingpin: Doc Ock and Prowler, so there is a constant synergy cause they share similar goals, methods, etc.

It works here cause Prowler and Doc Ock are mere underlings of the big one, Wilson Fisk

[ripe cypress]

That is one of the reasons why it did it well, but for the proposed ASM3 the villains were going to be related to the same through-line as each other iirc, and there was just as much scepticism about their inclusion simply because juggling characters was seen as the primary flaw

(and ASM3/Sony being bad about handling the series)

The reasons to cite a bulky lineup either in terms of rogues gallery or supporting cast is often negative by default, but for these movies that do the same and do it well, there's barely as much recognition given to how naturally these characters can be implemented into a single narrative as much as the default assumption

If Amy or Rouge, or even characters beyond them like the chaotix, were introduced anywhere along the sliding scale between Spider Ham to Hobie Brown - not the central players in the cast but noteworthy inclusions - it would hardly be describable as a mess, moreso just more moving parts to a story that's actually robust enough with characters that it's a part of the universe that the series is riffing off of

The problem with Tails in movie 2 is less so the fact that Tails was in the movie. It was that Tails was in the movie and they didn't do as good of a job incoprorating him as they did with Knuckles in comparison

[open maple]

Hm yes and no, because even when Spider-ham was a late addition to the cast, the character was still simple enough to include him without any mayor issue

He is a variant of Peter Parker that is a pig. That's about it. In a movie that already introduced alternate versions of characters via Peter B., this one goes smoother

With the chaotix, you have to introduce their character dynamics, what they do as a detective group, their establishment, how effective they are, etc.

Spider-ham has everything you can expect out of a Spider-man based on what the movie showcased up to that point; but the chaotix don't work like any other Sonic character, they are their distinctive group; same would go for Amy or Rouge

[ripe cypress]

The chaotix should be about as easy to introduce as Spider Ham; that's how they get introduced in most Sonic content

Detectives on the scene, their dynamic is exibited with their behavior, they performance with how they carry themselves through the story, etc

[lone lantern]

I think that’s the thing with the films, as they aren’t trying to be “most Sonic content”, ykwim?

[open maple]

In Heroes, they have their own dedicated story that works as an introduction to them; and in X they take like half an episode to be properly introduced (in which they do various jokes about how the episode wastes time on not putting them into action and what not)

[ripe cypress]

You can get the ghist of the Chaotix with just their opening level though

They hardly need the entire story to be actually introduced in full

[open maple]

The game still showcases their character dynamics and ideas through each of the levels, so a certain level of narrative is carried via playing the game and not just for the cutscenes by themselves.

In which the game in it's totality shows that, while goofy, they still are a competent group of detectives who could figure out who was their client

(then you have the opposite extreme with X where they assume Sonic & co. kidnapped Cream for whatever reason and they're incredibly dumb)

[ripe cypress]

Isn't that season 3 though

[open maple]

Season 2 also has that as plotline

[open maple]

yes and no. First they assume the ship sonic & co are in have cream kidnapped. It clears halfway through but then out of their ass they kidnap Cream

[ripe cypress]

Oh Vector...

[open maple]

Vector takes Cream because he thinks he will get some extra points on Vanilla by taking her home

[ripe cypress]

All this isn't really convincing me that they aren't easy to introduce/include though Their premise is simple, their role is basic enough to be conveyed through any small addition highlighting them, and their dynamic is readily apparent through their interactions

Spider Ham has to set himself up with a backstory explaining his existance to begin with, the Chaotix can literally come in and do their thing with a basic sentence or two explaining who they are and what they do

The biggest problem the Sonic movies have is their worldbuilding and the justification for why the Sonic characters are there, which tbh with Shadow they aren't really moving the needle forwards much yet... explaining how he even exists 50 years ago is going to be a doozy...

[open maple]

Just like any Penny and Noir, and all three of them were cut short by Peter B. cause that of narrating their backstory would overstay it's welcome

The point of that moment in particular is to subvert the narration beat by just making it 'irrelevant' at this point in the story

they are Spider-man variants, they came through the collidor and they must return home before they kick the bucket. Hence they don't take long in explaining their backgrounds compared to Peter B. or Gwen

[ripe cypress]

Yes but the Chaotix don't have to explain the "why", just the who

[open maple]

It also works cause you can get the gist of them by following the examples done beforehand by Peter B. and Gwen

They got bitten by a radioactive spider, they come from New York, they are heroes, they lost someone in the process, etc.

They all share a general skeleton that makes them easier to introduce and follow within the story

[ripe cypress]

Spider Ham at the very least has to explain his why

[lone lantern]

Also, don’t the other spider people come in within the 2nd/entering the 3rd act of the film as well? At least in the first?

My memory is faint lol

[open maple]

Around the second act they come in. It's kinda late in the story so they don't take long in introducing them at this point

[ripe cypress]

They do, but not until after the movie has already introduced like 10 other characters before this

Across is more gradual

[open maple]

They have to explain the why, They can't just appear.

They are detective so they are hired to do a job

That is as simple as it can get

[ripe cypress]

Why not

[unique osprey]

Except with Spider-Verse most of the ensemble cast aren’t main characters

[ripe cypress]

Their orders might even be... confidential...

[ripe cypress]

Yes but neither are Rouge or Amy

[unique osprey]

Spider-Ham, Peni, and Noir are fun, but they’re not main guys

they’re not top billing

[ripe cypress]

Sonic X out there with Rouge being one of the most side characters around

[lone lantern]

The expectation for Amy & rouge for most fans, is that they want them to BE main characters. Is the thing.

[unique osprey]

It’s not the same with Amy or Rouge, Rouge is important to the story of SA2 and if this were to be Amy’s debut it’d be a bad choice to force her into the supporting cast

[ripe cypress]

"Important to SA2" as if we aren't changing SA2 already

[open maple]

Yeah, but you can just say they were hired to do something and for privacy disclosure they cannot talk about their client.

In X for example it wasn't until the very end of the episode that it was explained that Vanilla hired them, but it was clear they got the contact beforehand as they start to research on Sonic & co to determine how to get Cream, this in season 2

[unique osprey]

my point being, there’s an expectation surrounding game characters for the movies now

Tails was a main character in movie 2 and he still got sidelined

[ripe cypress]

That just speaks for how badly he was handled in that movie

[unique osprey]

Amy and Rouge, there’s just no space for them if you want the film to be well rounded

[open maple]

In Season 3, they go to find Sonic's ship because Vanilla asked them to provide resources for Cream.

(This kinda makes Cream lying to her about where she was going at the beginning of the season kind of pointless but alas)

[unique osprey]

Across is also 2 hours and also Not Over

[ripe cypress]

That's just the Spiderman argument

There is a difference between "the moviemakers can't make it work" and "the concept can't actually work"

[unique osprey]

wait until deleter learns I dont think NWH was good

[open maple]

Plus most characters in across are variants of Spider-man so they share the same general skeleton, just need to go a bit over the specifics

[unique osprey]

yeah and in this case it’s both

[ripe cypress]

I don't think NWH was good either

[unique osprey]

maybe if Amy and Rouge were introduced before but by all means this would be their first appearance in the movieverse

[ripe cypress]

How is that not the same for "Sonic like" characters then?

[unique osprey]

You can’t just plop them in when the movie’s main focus is shadow the bitchass motherfucking hedgehog

[ripe cypress]

They're all from the same world, they all have the same reason for existing

[open maple]

Because the Spider-man variants share similar beats in abilities, stories, etc.

[unique osprey]

Not only is it overstuffing the movie, it’s doing a disservice to them as characters by having them essentially become background roles

[open maple]

While the sonic characters don't. Amy doesn't have the same story or abilities as Sonic, rouge doesn't have the same as Knuckles, etc

[ripe cypress]

While also being radically different in many ways, which the backstories are supposed to emphasize

[ripe cypress]

An actual "disservice" is saying "no" to them

[unique osprey]

are we talking about the main characters in spider-verse or the variants in general

[unique osprey]

Sonic Universe isn’t gonna end with the third movie, Deleter

we’re definitely getting a fourth

[lone lantern]

That and I tend to bring up that these films are just fairly origin oriented. Since they’re going the route of the cinematic universe, which the spiderverse & some other examples are fairly isolated ventures or at least planned in a tight closed length.

I simply just don’t think they’re in an omega rush for the sa2 accuracy/their inclusion if they can’t find a through line to make them both serve purpose in a new continuity that’s steadily planned to grow inch by inch from the looks of it.

Amy & Rouge aren’t being introduced, unless they’re a pushing force for the narrative for whatever project they may be planned to be.

[ripe cypress]

You don't know how a fourth and fifth and sixth are going to go either though

Which characters will be introduced, or whether those eventual moments will be worth it comparatively

[open maple]

Yes but they still share a lot of narrative beats that are the same regardless of the version

• They were bitten by a radioactive spider
• They got superpowers
• They lost a familiar of them (more often than not, an uncle)
• They become Spider-man of their world to help others.

That is the point of Spiderverse and the absolute events, that no matter how different these portrayals are, they still go for events that are the same in nature

Amy is not the same as Sonic, Shadow is not the same as Tails, etc

it doesn't work like that for these character in particular

[unique osprey]

We know that the creatives are interested in using Amy, at least. If she didn’t make it into the third, the fourth is likely

[ripe cypress]

If the third movie can only offer so much as a single addition, I have my doubts

[unique osprey]

except the movie storytelling isn’t the same

[ripe cypress]

Tell me how the Chaotix are impossible to add to the movies' storytelling in this nature when the reason for Tails' introduction already exists?

[unique osprey]

that’s not what im saying

im not claiming impossibility, im saying that it would need more time

there’s also the advent of the way their story is told

[ripe cypress]

I don't think it would; something as simple as a well written reason can introduce them in less time than that

The Chaotix are not anywhere close to what Tails' storybeats were looking to accomplish

even if it failed at some of them

They're simply a gang of oddballs that insert themselves into the story for their own goals and the writers' own wants from them as comedic elements to the cast and the storytelling, with their less tongue-and-cheek nature as an actual competent agency coming through second

[open maple]

and a well written reason needs proper time to be developed

Tails in Sonic movie 2 was introduced fairly easy.

Tails heard about Knuckles trying to find Sonic, he goes to Green Hills. Using his gadgets, he steals a police car and goes to find Sonic, saving him at the last minute and from there they present. It's simple but the movie takes it's time to properly develop these beats to let the audience know about the character

[ripe cypress]

It really doesn't

It needs to written well enough, but it doesn't require time

[lone lantern]

It does though.

It's a factor of both.

[ripe cypress]

I can't do anything but disagree lol

[lone lantern]

That's where you get your best results, in MY opinion at least.

[ripe cypress]

You can have them come in as an antagonistic force at first even

They have in the past, of course not in a serious way

Like those Xenoblade 2 guys

[open maple]

But why they would be an antagonistic force to begin with? That's what made their introduction in X suck

it forced them to be antagonists in a not very natural way

[ripe cypress]

Ok you keep saying they suck

[unique osprey]

this is literally what Across did though

[ripe cypress]

I'm not altogether sure they do

I remember enjoying the Chaotix in Season 2 a lot

[unique osprey]

it’s literally been stated that lord and miller would go back repeatedly and change the script and add/remove scenes in across to try and tighten the story, much to the rightful shigrin of the animators

[open maple]

They do, specially Vector. They just rush into things and conclusions without, you know, research.

Their character dynamic is enjoyable at least but it's ruined by the asspulls the anime has to do to have a climax with them

[ripe cypress]

Ok but that's crunch problems though

Lord and Miller pumping out their movies in incredibly short timeframes and having that approach to making a movie is one of their defining faults here

In universe time =/= irl production time

[unique osprey]

these aren’t crunch problems, when you’re making a animated movie most of them tend to have their scripts completed at the start?

again animators have actively described the process of production of those films as abnormal

[ripe cypress]

I said "they really don't need time to be introduced in a wait-multiple-movies" sense and we're now approaching it from

"We need production development time"

This is moving the goalpost

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

[unique osprey]

im saying that its not as simple as “good writing” GAAHAHAHAH it wont let me send

im not saying that the sonic movie team needs extensions on their writing work im saying that they would’ve needed time to consider their choices, and they have

[ripe cypress]

That kind of thing isn't necessary to set them up in the same way though

[unique osprey]

you can’t just point at any wild idea, say “just write it good” and wipe any issues away

[ripe cypress]

You can have them be a group that hinders Sonic and Co without properly explaining themselves while still being portrayed in a less flanderized way that X did

[unique osprey]

I dont think movie 2 has bad writing necessarily, but that doesn’t change the fact that the tails’ arc is disjointed

[ripe cypress]

We are talking about... including characters... not wild ideas...

[unique osprey]

bro my point still stands 😭

[open maple]

Yeah but why I would include the chaotix to be antagonistic? I cannot just make them fight Sonic and co for the sake of it

It would lead to the heroes issue where they just fight against Team Dark just because they met eachother

[ripe cypress]

I could (not "fight" though)

They're one of the most comedic teams in the entire series why wouldn't a bunch of bozos strolling by and wrecking Sonic and Co's plans because they're on a mission not work?

https://tenor.com/view/zeke-zeke-xenoblade-i-am-in-your-walls-meme-funny-gif-24905048

[unique osprey]

you could introduce Amy as a simple supporting character, but you could also introduce her properly with a storyline where she has a prominent role. one of these is more beneficial for the sonic movies than the other

[open maple]

Because if it is messed up, it can lead to very forced conflicts with them in particular

like a lot of people like Tails Cosmo as a ship, but it was done in X in a very forced way

thanks to the Chaotix once more

[ripe cypress]

Hollow criticism, all of my conflicts are very natural and very based

[unique osprey]

Same goes for Rouge, if this is the first time these characters are gonna appear in the movie franchise, you should try and give it some weight

[ripe cypress]

Team Dark is very forced, obviously the Heroes framing doesn't work well for anything

Rivals did the same

Meanwhile something like Puss in Boots, with Softpaws and Puss...

[open maple]

Basically Vector & Co. saw Tails and Cosmo be nice to eachother and decided to try to make them be together because 'Tails feels alone..'?

[unique osprey]

and of course, this could go for the chaotix. I dont think theyre gonna get prominent focus in a movie but a spinoff series could have the opportunity to introduce them in a way where we get to see them forming the team for the First Time™️ (not for the whole series but like, at the start. a good framing device)

[open maple]

Depends. The first one or the second one?

[ripe cypress]

Second one

I really disliked the first one lmao

[open maple]

lmao

[lone lantern]

I also don't really agree with pupchannels idea/suggestion on Amy & Rouge's placement in movie 3.

It's in no offense to him ofc.
We're mutuals.

[unique osprey]

lmfao pupchannels 😭

a lot of the pitches regarding Amy and Rouge involve them showing up for impactful moments but otherwise being idle in the background

I think if you’re gonna at least have Amy there she should be a main character

[ripe cypress]

And this is why the Sonic movies probably won't get around to the cast as a whole for a while

[unique osprey]

this is different for subsequent appearances in the movieverse imo, but even in the game canon aside from the outlier, Heroes, when a new character shows up, they have significant attention dedicated towards them

[lone lantern]

She's like..
THE girl.
Of the sonic franchise, more so than ever with her inclusion being upped with the boys.

Characterization? Iffy, depending on who you ask.
But she's definitely up there.

With Rouge even following not to far behind (prime & dream team) but those two might have been done for gameplay balance & girl to boy cast ratio, idk

So, I do think that if she's to be implemented. She should be a main/pushing narrative character, with said inclusion.

[unique osprey]

Shadow had like 2 and a half games dedicated to his story, Silver’s presence in 06 is felt even in the other character stories, unleashed and frontiers are practically all about chip and sage, tangle and whisper had an entire miniseries dedicated to them

The chaotix are only outliers because they were holdovers from an add on console game that was just recently recanonized and now implied to be the title where the team met up

[ripe cypress]

This all-or-nothing attitude really leaves Sonic in the dust when Transformers and Spiderman can run laps around it while ignoring the same principles of focus being asked

[unique osprey]

When you’re establishing these characters in the movieverse you have to make sure their introductions dont feel complementary

[ripe cypress]

Disagree

[lone lantern]

This is gradually feeling very "nuh uh"-ish, no matter the angle as an outsider looking in at this whole string of debate lol

[ripe cypress]

Well yes, when things are said and they don't like

Actually hold up

This whole... dialog around the movies

It's built around this

But it's not actually "the way things should be", nor are they "the actual reasons why it can't work"

You can hold out for these individual elements for the perfect time for an entire movie of focus while excluding them for movie upon movie upon movie, but that isn't actually going to result in a better executed universe when the alternative is literally on screen and comparable in these same theaters

[unique osprey]

Except I gave the reasons lol

[ripe cypress]

The reasons like "the chaotix would work better in a TV show"?

The "the games had a singular focus on each character so the movies should do the same" as if the same doesn't apply to transformers and their individual TV episode introductions?

[unique osprey]

I dont know bout transformers, but spider man alts are comparable

[ripe cypress]

The whole "make sure their introductions don't feel complementary" is a huge point of contention for me

Being complementary would be far and away exactly what I would be hoping for out of the extended cast

[open maple]

I personally just don't want the characters to be introduced just for introduction sake.

[snow tangle]

It looks like Jakks Pacific are asking people to take down the images of the Sonic Movie 3 toys that were bought from Walmart. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTxvU-vXsAAl-4V?format=jpg&name=900x900

[ripe cypress]

At this point I think that would be preferrable, at least in the context of them

Actually being introduced well

Because otherwise you have the all or nothing attitude of "waiting for their movie" when like

No lol

Imagine if we did that for Transformers, in fact this is part of why Spiderverse's rouges gallery was so refreshing

All of the rogues already existed in the world

They were ready and rearing to go

You didn't have to wait for the "electro" movie in Spiderverse

But you had the main characters

The main meat and potatos

While also getting to see Green Goblin fight with Prowler against Spider Man and hand him the beat down

That was amazing

[unique osprey]

Spider-Man’s existed since the 60s

[ripe cypress]

So?

[open maple]

I mean, it isn't like Green Goblin was relevant for most of the movie. I think he died after the first collidor incident

so

[unique osprey]

There’s already an argument for possible repetitiveness

[ripe cypress]

[unique osprey]

more people know their backstories, and the villains in spider verse weren’t technically trying to be anything new

also we’re talking about like, most of the sonic cast here and not spider-man’s rogues gallery. again, somebody like Amy qualifies as a main character. the argument doesn’t work on the same level

[ripe cypress]

Of course, I'm not saying that she does

But a Spider Man purist would have wanted to "wait for the green goblin movie!"

[open maple]

You can do the argument that Spider-man 1 is that

is as much a Peter movie as it is a Norman movie

it develops both of them around equally

https://tenor.com/view/sed325-stupid-gif-4261396706191412382

[ripe cypress]

My point is that the movie introduced them for "introduction's sake" and is a better movie for it

You could have a Sonic movie throw in the E100 series as a threat in a scene and it'd work just as well if not better than the average enemies

While making fans estatic for whatever context they did recognize of those inclusions

[open maple]

Uh yeah but Spiderverse's narrative doesn't hinder on Green Goblin as anything significant, while Norman in Spider-man 1 has as much screen time as Peter himself

[ripe cypress]

And it's not 1-to-1

It has it's own ideas

[unique osprey]

Yeah spider man 1 has Norman as a main character

[open maple]

Spiderverse works under the context that you already have an idea of who Peter is and what his stuff usually does, and subverts it

[ripe cypress]

My point is that something as significant as Norman freaking Osborn

Is a background detail

[unique osprey]

you say “itd be bad to wait for the green goblin movie!” but sm1 essentially IS the green goblin movie

[ripe cypress]

Transformers One is looking to do the same with a lot of stuff

[open maple]

Yeah just a background character that dies in the same scene as he is introduced

[unique osprey]

Yeah because he’s not a main character!!!! He fucking dies in the first like 30 minutes

he’s on screen for like 3

[ripe cypress]

If you are interpreting this as me saying that we should treat Amy this way

That's not what I am saying and I am disappointed it's being read that way if so

[unique osprey]

If you mean the chaotix then it loops around to what I said before about story potential

[open maple]

Norman in Spiderverse is not relevant to the story whatsoever, it is just the movie playing with the usual Spider-man idiosincracies before things go down.

And they have to change in pro of showing Miles as his own person with his own stuff as Spider-man

[ripe cypress]

And that story potential is what can be drawn from Norman or Shockwave or Alpha Trion

But they do it regardless

Because they know they're a better movie for it

[open maple]

yeah, you can introduce the e-100 like that but people would kill you if you try to imply Gamma is something like that

[ripe cypress]

On the contrary, it gives the perfect backdoor for Gamma to be introduced in a later story

[unique osprey]

Except we dont have a comparable point for the chaotix. Spiderverse has more important antagonists to cover like Kingpin and Prowler

[ripe cypress]

Rather than "waiting" for the story to reach his point

[unique osprey]

spider-verse’s entire point is also acknowledging the fact that these stories are well known and have been told before

[ripe cypress]

In what, comics?

[open maple]

In anything, really

comics, series, movies

[unique osprey]

comics, tv, movies, games

[ripe cypress]

That's like arguing that Sonic characters are well known due to video games and TV

Ergo they should get the same

[open maple]

hence it references a bit of everything

[unique osprey]

except the only tv series the chaotix as a whole has appeared in is X

Vector was in one episode of boom

[ripe cypress]

As if X wasn't the biggest Sonic cartoon

[unique osprey]

and also not my point

[open maple]

and he was more a tv star of a detective tv show than a conventional detective

[unique osprey]

It’s not attempting to be a new take in the same way MCU Spidey arguably is, or the way Movie Sonic is a new take

[open maple]

Spiderverse is kinda like the sonic generations of Spider-man

[ripe cypress]

Most of the discussion of Spiderverse I have seen is people claiming it's a fresher take than any of its contemporaries

[olive vortex]

Fresher take in what sense?

Like style or story?

[ripe cypress]

In fact it's brought up in these Sonic convos a lot of times

[ripe cypress]

Story, style, characters

[unique osprey]

That’s true, but it does so in a way where the movie still keeps people’s experiences with previous material in mind

[open maple]

it focuses mainly on what makes the character special, what are it's ups, it's downs and what he does across the entire story and how he deals with all of this

[ripe cypress]

Spiderman isn't "spiderman spiderman" he's overweight and a mentor

Miles is a whole new take on the story

[lone lantern]

Except for Miguel.
That was a coin flip after the honey moon phase.
Fucked him up.

[ripe cypress]

The entire universe is shifted and changed from the usual tropes

"Omg Doc Ock is a girl?!?"

[olive vortex]

But isn’t it the fact they’re all considered the same person?

They’re all “spidermen and women”

With sonic characters they are vastly different from one another

[ripe cypress]

What

[olive vortex]

With this, they all have at least one or 2 connections with one another

[ripe cypress]

Yes but how is it relevant

[olive vortex]

Ur saying sonic characters should get introduced in the movies without any introduction right?

[ripe cypress]

The Sonic characters are not the "spidermen and spider women"

They're the alpha trion calling out from the surface of cybertron

They're the Aunt May waiting for Ben

[lone lantern]

T, have you seen transformers one yet?

[ripe cypress]

I'm familiar enough with Transformers to know this isn't the first time they've done this

And it's going to happen again

Again, this isn't some etherial, mythical instance here

[lone lantern]

I was more so curious because you keep bringing up the alpha trion bit.

[ripe cypress]

I've hung out around the preview discussion to get the ghist of that yes

If it's wrong then I got the wrong impression

But it doesn't discount the fundamental in practice

We don't "need" an entire campaign revolving around Tripticon in War for Cybertron for him to appear as a fundamental part of Megatron's plan in spite of barely getting as much focus

But for a completely new fan like myself when I played it, it was not lost on me how good of an inclusion it was

[unique osprey]

I feel like the examples you’re describing don’t really change anything about the points I’ve made

[ripe cypress]

They don't

Because that's the thing, you can 100% want a full movie digging as much into the "potential" being asked for here

That's the core premise around there being main characters, or main villains

But sometimes waiting and asking for that for all elements of a universe is not a practical or reasonable ask when they can improve the texturework and material of the world and story presented on screen by a thousand fold regardless of if they can be used for that dedicated story later on or not

Claiming it's the only way forwards to an actually good movie? That's the instance of where it's wrong

[ripe cypress]

Ok I knew I wasn't tripping

[wind sparrow]

https://x.com/realshadowfan01/status/1818409833693151316?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

#1 Shadow The Hedgehog Fan (@RealShadowFan01) on X

The first ‘SONIC 3’ trailer will be releasing NEVER.

(Via: @RealShadowFan01)

Twitter · Jul 30, 2024, 10:14 PM

Finally a reliable leak

[open maple]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-finally-good-food-chef-gif-11616250

[floral silo]

ok thats funny

i think were gonna get the trailer sometime after december

[azure trail]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-beverley-patrick-beverley-nba-timberwolves-gif-11752728165167489486

[torn scarab]

We’re gonna get the trailer in 2029

never

[lost plume]

Looking into DipshitRPK just makes me more upset

He has over 5k patreon subscribers

so at THE VERY LEAST

Monthly he makes over 10 and a half thousand US dollars

Not taking into account the higher tiers and paying your own amount above the base tier

Snake Oil salesman but in the methods of pop culture gossip and rumormills

[glacial cliff]

Time to become a fake leaker I guess

I want a full time salary for virtually 0 work

[snow tangle]

I be surprised if they just drop the trailer tomorrow. https://x.com/MadoyaTatemano/status/1818709188958371870

JillyCraft64 - Beyblade Fan (@MadoyaTatemano) on X

Alright. Guess time! which date in august do you think the Sonic Movie 3 trailer is dropping?

(Because apparently @ParamountPics drops trailers on either Tuesday or Thursday?? #Sonic3 #SonicMovie3)

Twitter · Jul 31, 2024, 6:03 PM

[balmy fiber]

Good lord the brainrot.

[azure trail]

💀

Just let it go

[snow tangle]

Sonic fans when they calculate when the trailer drops https://tenor.com/view/math-zack-galifianakis-thinking-calculating-gif-5120792

[azure trail]

I mean you're eating part of that cake too tho

[snow tangle]

Doesn't everybody?

[azure trail]

Not me personally

[lost plume]

No

[open maple]

https://tenor.com/view/alguien-ha-visto-tron-si-digo-no-no-no-no-no-digo-si-si-digo-no-meme-alguien-ha-visto-tron-meme-gif-24364746

[olive vortex]

No

I honestly don’t give two flying fucks about this trailer

It comes when it comes

[azure trail]

Not just that, I'm pretty sure most people here have their eyes mostly in the new game

[snow tangle]

True, at least for the Shadow portion, I hope its a game where you can just play the Shadow levels.

[lost plume]

Back from my shower but not everybody here posts the stupid trailer date conspiracies

It is a small handful

Or a vocal minority

You've been extremely vocal

You've sent a ton of them

Bringing more attention to it when you hopefully know they are bullshit and don't need attention

[snow tangle]

Its just amusing the length people go through over a trailer, Which can literally drop at any time

[lost plume]

It isn't amusing after the 500th time you've shared the same shit

It's annoying af

It isn't speculation posting and more of just cloutchasing or bait or whatever

[unique osprey]

i can’t help but laugh at how scattered the speculation is getting

I hope the trailer specifically releases on a Monday in September for literally no reason except pissing everybody off at this point

[urban scroll]

G-guys...

When's the...the Sonic movie 3 trailer...

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-any-gif-26357631

[dire quiver]

This year.

[stiff skiff]

It’ll release September 10th

[lone lantern]

Sonic 3 honestly is probably gonna be the big pivot point on if this full-blown direction for 'Marvel Scaled films' is gonna work out and or be a big appeal (which, it kinda is. People are scratching at the neck for a poster or trailer atm.)

So I'm really excited for the fact that this is supposed to be the big shifting point of sorts, on how these films are gonna regarded in production.

That and I just like to see the gradual evolution of the creative team that came from much smaller scale projects, and improve in what they wanna be.

Last two films aren't perfect.
But they're solid, and I can tell that improvements were steadily made in trying to do their best with the source material & original material.

As long as that persists and keeps upping/being refined?
I'm hopeful & giddy.

[wind sparrow]

Anyways https://fixupx.com/sonicas0/status/1818610572293767330?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[lost snow]

Regarding the interest for the movie: so far what has leaked, aka the only stuff we know about the film, hasn't really interested me

In general it doesn't sound this movie has much to look forward to

This is why I am not hungry for the trailer

[ripe cypress]

I'll continue wanting the movies to actually do something interesting with it's world building with the alien worlds and universes suggested, like Archie did when the unique stuff was actually interesting

[glacial cliff]

Like IDW

[ripe cypress]

No, like Archie

[lost snow]

They just want to stay cheap and tell simple stories probably

[ripe cypress]

The Prequill comic gave a glimpse into what was possible

This game adaption kind of deal is like the chapters in Archie where it's "oh it's like the games but not really" and it's

Not particularly interesting

[lost snow]

From what I read in interviews by writers and executives they care about making the movies not high budget and profitable, I can't argue that it is a wrong logic but this also means we are stuck with live action places and characters

[balmy fiber]

Sonics wide eyes

[ripe cypress]

[lost snow]

I don't think Archie was close to the games or anything similar though

I would rather have them respect the source material for what they can

[wind sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-out-rage-parks-and-rec-nick-offerman-ron-swanson-gif-17688925

[snow tangle]

They are popping up everywhere now. https://x.com/SonicMovieNewz6/status/1818729747972866453

SonicMovieNews (@SonicMovieNewz6) on X

No way we getting toys before a trailer #SonicMovie3

Twitter · Jul 31, 2024, 7:25 PM

[lone lantern]

Honestly, if we’re staying on earth. I’d say, get us to a point where it’s barely recognizable by the time the story has progressed further.

As in, implementing mobian kind with earth society and humans just having to share earth with em.

[snow tangle]

If I go to Walmart over the weekend, I'll check if I find them

[unique osprey]

HA

HAHAHAHAHA

THATS CRAZY DAWG

[lone lantern]

I think the main root of possibly hopping over into Sonic’s world and what it holds, is honestly just Angel Island at the moment.
They held off of it in 2 because of budget, and also they wanted to use it in a better story to where it could be fully taken in/embraced in its potential.

[unique osprey]

“pweease don’t release pictures of the toys we released into the world ”

[snow tangle]

I dont think in just walmart. https://x.com/KollyIsaac/status/1818751167473893492

Sonic Del Barrio201224 (@KollyIsaac) on X

#SonicMovie3 GUYS YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE ME, IN THE SHOPPING CENTER, THE SONIC 3 TOYS ARE ALREADY BEING SOLD!!!

Twitter · Jul 31, 2024, 8:50 PM

[wind sparrow]

I’m literally gonna

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-register-banging-head-cash-gif-5462519

[lone lantern]

That is edited to high hell

[wind sparrow]

You can tell 💀

[unique osprey]

what a fun mess!

[ripe cypress]

Paramount jumping the kids in the toy aisles to prevent spoilers from leaking into their brains

[lost snow]

After movie 2 and Knuckles tv series, where else could they show Angel Island? They kinda missed the train on that

[lone lantern]

Reinterpretation I’d assume

[snow tangle]

There's not even a listing for it on the website

[unique osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-spongebob-tv-tv-spongebob-fish-at-tv-spongebob-gif-13592243222089546646

is that goku

[lone lantern]

Come after Sonic 3, fantasy is more than likely on the cusp compared to whatever they may be doing with shadow which I’d imagine will be fairly earth grounded aside from Shadow’s plausible roots (Black Arms) but ig that’d be sci-fi

[wind sparrow]

Hey it’s me

[lone lantern]

Maybe Angel Island serves as some type of prison for a new version of Chaos or something. Or it’s some melded version/taken inspo from little planet, into something familiar but different.
This is just me spitballing, since I’m not behind the scenes of this stuff, and I don’t know where 3 is gonna leave us.
So bare with me lol

[dire quiver]

?

[lone lantern]

The films are certainly given the most leeway in what they can or can’t change in terms of lore staples. So anything is in the table, as long as it can comply with the time and budget given.

Once again, Sonic 3 being the start of that ‘go all in, as much as you can’t ideology they got going on, since it’s supposed to be THE movie kicking off these grand scale marvel event like films going forward.

[lone lantern]

So, if the reception is good, and the trust is there. I would like to see what they could do within their growing continuity

[lone lantern]

Give it like..3 weeks, we’ll be square hopefully.

[azure trail]

Sonic 3 stuff is most likely gonna start after Transformers One releases or a lil bit before it releases

[snow tangle]

That's the most likely scenario, release a trailer right around the release of Transformers One, and they put it in front of that movie

[ripe cypress]

So

September then

[unique osprey]

Probably the most likely place

[north vault]

they’re tricking the sonic fans into watching a better movie

[unique osprey]

https://vxtwitter.com/sonicas0/status/1818755569122967640?s=46&t=9-8r2BsnJTX3NUa7wKHeIQ

[azure trail]

No voice lines?

[snow tangle]

I don't know why they put background music

[unique osprey]

I mean we know what the dialogue’s supposed to be

You can just imagine the imitation va from there

[azure trail]

Not movie ones for sure lmao

[snow tangle]

There was some info about the toys having certain lines, like I found you faker

[wind sparrow]

They didn’t press it

[azure trail]

[wind sparrow]

Notice the button doesn’t move

[snow tangle]

Some of those toys are now on Ebay apparently.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT2PA2eWUAAPNkq?format=jpg&name=large

[ripe cypress]

Yeesh

[north vault]

a youtuber Will pay this much and i Will laugh at them continuously for their stupidity when they do

(I will also rob them at gunpoint as they cannot be trusted with money better used elsewhere)

[dire quiver]

That's like 1 trillion dollars.

Too much.

[north vault]

th

theres a .

its a thousand dollars

(which is still too much!! but its not a trillion lmao)

[snow tangle]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/196533972890

[wind sparrow]

Watch most of those listings be fake

[ripe cypress]

In some countries a comma is used instead

Wait no I'm confusing myself

Ok yeah

I think this issue was behind the "xenophobic NPCs" bug that a game developer was reporting on once so I remembered that it was a thing regionally lol

[azure trail]

I use the dot

[dire quiver]

Yes, in Brazil we don't tend to use the comma very much.

[wise turret]

I wanna say that Paramount are making a good job at somehow making Sonic Movie fans be against them over a TRAILER

like if you somehow got pissy over Transformers One having two trailers before Sonic, then please go and learn about MARKETING

and also, THE FILM IS NOT EVEN DONE YET

WHO KNOWS IF THE VFX FOR THE TRAILER IS DONE EITHER

IF THERE IS ONE

all I can say on the matter is thus, please wait for it to drop

don't come in expecting every single day or month prior to at LEAST late September to be when the trailer drops

cuz that is the GTA 6 way of thinking (at least before the trailer came out proper for that)

[lost plume]

as if spitting facts would stop people here

oh yea it's officially august now

I get to boast again

https://tenor.com/view/flip-off-chucky-middle-finger-gif-13970362

[torn scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-goku-funny-meme-scary-gif-10506781365167440519

[quaint mountain]

Here's the actual very important Sonic Movie 3 rumor

Btw get inflicted by the curse of Poseidon

[keen wren]

This a ai weirdo?

[quaint mountain]

probably, ye

[keen wren]

That ai stuff is weird. The general public hates it, its lost corperations insane money, it cant do what they claim, its ruining the planet and causing actual utlity shortages for electricity, water &food shortages.

But some rich executive man really doesnt want to pay his employes. So this guy gets to continue to grift to them and seemingly ruin lives

[wind sparrow]

10/10 movie already https://x.com/c0llisionchaos_/status/1818937100915392713?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

CosmicFaye 🍉✨ (@c0llisionchaos_) on X

Sonic 3 reported to have a 30 minute Sonic and Shadow makeout scene.

(Via: @SonicMovie)

Twitter · Aug 1, 2024, 9:09 AM

[snow tangle]

Promotional Video for the Sonic Movie 3 theme race from Cinepolis Mexico

Its from this instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/C-Ij-HWKaF4/

cinepolismx

#Sonic y sus amigos te están esperando para que participes en la próxima edición de la #CarreraFundaciónCinépolis, que se realizará en el Centro Histórico de Morelia. ¿Quieres más detalles? ¡Dale play! 🏃‍♂️🤩👏 @cinepolisfundacion @grandpetmx

Likes

1429

Instagram

[lone lantern]

Personally, one would love to hope that this would cement that this month could be the month for a trailer since a whole event is being done to promote it. But I no longer know anymore lol

[torn scarab]

Sonadow fans finna go wild with this one

[snow tangle]

Weird how Toys are being sold, and then a promotion for a contest for a movie, Whose trailer isn't even out yet, Strange marketing tactics going on.

[snow tangle]

Regardless, its bizarre marketing

[lost plume]

I already stated it ISN'T marketing

The toys aren't supposed to even be out

That is why Jakks is contacting everyone to delete the posts of them

They weren't supposed to be on shelves yet

But Walmart doesn't give a fuck and breaks street date

I mentioned this precise point in the audio

[meager granite]

Fuck

[torn scarab]

what happened

oh

[snow tangle]

Maybe it was done on purpose

[lost plume]

Words, integrity and rules of this server do not permit me to project my current thoughts in the form of text rn

[wind sparrow]

https://fixupx.com/sonicas0/status/1819006098478661835?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[unique osprey]

wow they are just

they’re straight up not selling any tails figures huh

[steep sequoia]

bro poor fucking Tails

[balmy fiber]

Wow that bodes well

I mean i hope its just

What is the most marketable and not movie relevance

[steep sequoia]

Like I'm sorry but this makes me felt very worrisome because I was hoping for some decent treatment over Tails

[wind frigate]

over toys

[dire quiver]

I don't think this means anything for his presence in the movie, but that is plain disrespectful.

Everybody but Tails.

[steep sequoia]

^

[wind sparrow]

We need a Stone figure tbh

[torn scarab]

Watch the dog get a action figure instead of tails

[steep sequoia]

it sucks tails was kinda put aside in favor of knuckles

[lost plume]

I mean

I get it

Jakks waves are just 4 figures

there'll probs be a playset or something with Tails or he'll be in a theoretical Wave 2

[left umbra]

Next time someone posts an image of the movie figures and gets a DM from Jakks to remove said image, they should just reply back that its already out in the wild with basically new images of them popping up every day and they can file a DMCA over their grave. /sarcastic /joking /witticism

[lost plume]

erm actually...it's intentional marketing....(i don't know what marketing is btw...)

[unique osprey]

everybody knows it’s unintentional but everybody’s also tired of the waiting game

they’re called leaks for a reason

maybe next time they shouldn’t drop casting announcements for the ensemble cast at the start of the year considering this fanbase 🤷 but that’s my perspective

[boreal canyon]

isn’t that just standard practice? I’m confused

[unique osprey]

they had a logo reveal last time and revealed Elba with the poster but I think the atmosphere was different

Definitely something to do with the higher anticipation but to me it’s either get a stronger lock or stay more lowkey

Really I don’t feel anything for paramount or the associated companies in this case like “oh those darn leakers!!” so it does effect my perspective a little

fan atmosphere is annoying but I think getting excited is the less irritating thing here

all this to say that trailer’s gonna be really cool when it drops in mid October 🙏

[steep sequoia]

Rouge and Amy really never had a chance lmao

They can't even make Tails relevant

[unique osprey]

We don’t know that yet

(The tails thing I mean)

[lone lantern]

Oh wait, gamescom starts on August 20th?

I thought it was one and done on the 25th.

Okay, I can live with it then.

If it turns out to be the case, or not. Because I think sxs generations will have something there too by chance

[static elm]

It will, that's for sure

[wind sparrow]

https://x.com/therealcineor/status/1819463156307317145?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

Cineor (@therealcineor) on X

So according to ‘Cornucopia Events’ that has Red Carpet Film Premieres in UK. #SonicMovie3 is set to have their Red Carpet premiere in Leicester Square, London on December 16th!! 👀

Source: https://t.co/Ag2SFtSWWH

#sonicnews #sonic3 #sonicmovie #ShadowTheHedgehog #knuckles

Twitter · Aug 2, 2024, 7:59 PM

[lone lantern]

Uk’s red carpets tend to look like actual red carpets, so dope for them in terms of a upgrade

That’s not to diss the past two blue carpet things, but like..

Paramount’s front door ain’t that dazzling lol

[north vault]

just clicked through to the site and

what the hell is this

[balmy fiber]

The tom the origin of the human jerry cat the rabbit become mouse boy

[snow tangle]

Maybe it'll be blue this time.

[north vault]

love this very real movie

[snow tangle]

or a black carpet for Shadow, They should change things up

[unique osprey]

red works for shadow tho

[dire quiver]

What a long movie title.

[torn scarab]

what the fuck

[balmy fiber]

Gabi Sproule

[urban scroll]

This reads like a MAD skit

[torn scarab]

I think one mushroom for me was too much

[snow tangle]

a black carpet with a red stripe in the middle.

[lone lantern]

Oof

No wonder jakk’s is telling people to stop spreading that stuff. Eternal issues, with retailers not sticking to what they probably planned (September to October-ish) releases for their products.

[lost plume]

So yea this is just more fake shit right

[lone lantern]

The sonic movie twitter account is active..

[steep sequoia]

Try not to read too much into this plz

[lone lantern]

I won't, but since they've been quiet since May.

One eye open while I'm sleeping

[lone lantern]

May 31st to be exact.
Dead silence since then.

Ykw?

I lied, I'm reading into it like the deepdiving son of a bitch I am.

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[open maple]

Call you Batman the way you check every minute

[lone lantern]

I'm that guy

We're in that 4 month stretch atm. Waiting till like..3 months to get that trailer out is pushing it.

[snow tangle]

Active because of a retweet

[lone lantern]

When you're still in time for 2 months, without a single retweet done beforehand.
And enter the period, prime for some stuff to actually get done.
Hell yeah, active is active in my book lol

Ofc..it kinda.
Hinges on if it'll continue after the retweet, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

[snow tangle]

Even if it was a retweet that isn't related to the movie, But at least Sonic related

May 31st was the last time it was active

[torn scarab]

I got news from someone saying that the movie trailer will release in 6016

(source:me)

[lone lantern]

Gotta come clean yall..

Trailer is up my ass.

[open maple]

ew

clean it up lol

[olive vortex]

HOLY SHIT GUYS

||live stage Jinbei||

[balmy fiber]

Whats this

Is this a sonic

[olive vortex]

It’s leaked from the set

Shadows in the back too

This is actually the first time we see the standee prop in detail

[balmy fiber]

???

Excuse you?

@olive vortex huh

||Whats a jinbei||

[olive vortex]

||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/8/81/Jinbe_Anime_Infobox.png/revision/latest?cb=20170521201349||

@balmy fiber

[balmy fiber]

Ok but thats not sonic lmao

[left umbra]

how on earth does this mean anything

[torn scarab]

sonic one piece collab

[left umbra]

how in the what

[open maple]

https://fxtwitter.com/GamesCage_/status/1819580150855409715

@lone lantern this you xd

[dire quiver]

I think some of you who want to know anything about the trailer should chill a little.

Even if it will take a bit, it'll inevitably come out fairly soon.

[lone lantern]

We're a speculative bunch, in a speculation channel.
We gonna speculate & theorize with the information we got so little of atm lol.

I think we're fairly aware it's reaching that approach, but it's more fun to see if you can plausibly catch its approach essentially

As long as no one isn't harassing anyone thar works on the films or something, we should be straight.

Unless you're someone easily irritable just by hearing spitball after spitball. Which is fair, it's been goin on for a while, can't even blame those that are lol

[wind frigate]

im going to be honest none of this has been fun recently

[balmy fiber]

Yea lmao

Like

All of this has been a nothing burger

There is no speculation

No leaks aside the toy

But the whole trailer thing

[static elm]

I've muted the channel and left it

If we get any sm3 news

It'll be everywhere

So this shit is useless

[lone lantern]

Well it’s fun for me damn it. So do what you gotta do

That sounded hostile as hell, mb lol

[balmy fiber]

I mean good for you, glad you have enjoyment

I just dont have anything to even enjoy

[snow tangle]

Its more of a wait and see approach, Social Media tends to just exaggerate things, To the point its laughable when others are believing random accounts.

[snow tangle]

https://fixvx.com/teen_xbox/status/1819440929209831891

[balmy fiber]

What about this is teasing

[snow tangle]

I think its funny that Paramount put out a poll with both movies

I don't know what Paramount is trying to pull with this.

[lone lantern]

Eh..

I wouldn’t think to deep in this one

[snow tangle]

here's the original post https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkxv_1-5gx5AHHEonG__iWAtWz20AQr1Tjw

[lone lantern]

At least with the movie account, there’s the aspect that it’s Sonic centered. It’s the main root of promotion/marketing, and they haven’t done jack on it since may 31st up till yesterday.
The paramount movies account is kinda just..

Always active, what they say or do doesn’t have a merit until that trailer drops

[unique osprey]

https://vxtwitter.com/joltedfox06/status/1819843097024692438

this is a DISASTEROUS leak for jaaks ong i almost feel bad for them 😭

https://x.com/joltedfox06/status/1819850869397229626

jojo's wacky escapades 🍉 (@joltedfox06) on X

@AydienF3554 Here ya go!

Twitter · Aug 3, 2024, 9:40 PM

[glacial cliff]

Better Sonic figure

[snow tangle]

well the describe doesn't say much

[glacial cliff]

I would feel bad but like

It's just Shadow

I think the point is to see it in motion

[balmy fiber]

Oh did the sonic figure get a touch up

[glacial cliff]

Like it's just game Shadow with slightly redesigned shoes and 2 separate eyes

[snow tangle]

Yeah, If the trailer had been out, and these toys were out the same time, nobody would make a big deal out of it, But Paramount, Geez, What's the hold up

[lone lantern]

I do like how they went about the eyes tho

Compared to the kinda flat paint on

Adds a nice dimension imo

[glacial cliff]

That's a lotta joints

[lone lantern]

Living up to ACTION figure

[snow tangle]

I hope someone gets the talking toy, and post a video of the phrases.

[unique osprey]

https://vxtwitter.com/sonicas0/status/1819840458895524092

https://vxtwitter.com/AmogusBakalol/status/1819844100696473687

[snow tangle]

we don't hear it say I found you faker

also the quality of the audio sucks

[glacial cliff]

Oh damn that looks good

[balmy fiber]

That looks pretty damn good

[glacial cliff]

A little weird that all the packaging graphics are old

[unique osprey]

Bro it’s so fucking weird 😭

[balmy fiber]

Maybe they will be different

[snow tangle]

Nice to see they have a Tails.

Most of these leaks were just sonic, shadow, knuckles and robotnik, and no tails, So its good we got confirmation.

[steep sequoia]

Yeah Tails was strangely absent for some reaosn, so I am at least we finally get a look over him

[lone lantern]

What 70’s song are we betting on for Sonic 3’s soundtrack?

Personally? Dancing in the moonlight

[balmy fiber]

Well it should be 1974

[snow tangle]

What song do you think they'll use for the trailer?

[left umbra]

My personal guess:
Genesis by Justice

[left umbra]

Left field:
Stress (2024 Rework) by Justice

[lone lantern]

People busy talking about the reused renders, I'm losing my mind as a semi-graphic design dabbler with how cluttered everything looks because of all of the black.

Not helped by the red.

[ripe cypress]

Unironically the vibes of the backgrounds rn

[balmy fiber]

I enjoy

[wind sparrow]

I have to run errands anyway… I’ll keep my eye out for some of them https://x.com/sonicstadium/status/1819956620287262994?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

Sonic Stadium ✪ Sonic News & Community (@sonicstadium) on X

BREAKING: More Sonic 3 action figures have been found in the wild!

In the latest toy leak from the movie, it seems someone has managed to buy some Sonic Movie 3 5 inch action figures. This is the third leak from the film's upcoming toy line. #SonicNews

Full story in comments...

Twitter · Aug 4, 2024, 4:40 AM

[balmy fiber]

Dude why did this happen

This is a really bad leak

[quaint mountain]

The toy leaks are "normal", but yeah, really weird how this has been handled so far

Because at first I thought that those were supposed to be on the store shelves alongside whatever SEGA/Paramount were supposed to announce in regards to the movie before a last-minute delay (kinda like when Halo Infinite had a Monster Energy promo close to a year before the game's release because MS delayed the game and couldn't renegotiate the campaign (allegedly)), but Jakks going out of their way to DM people to delete the photos makes that seemingly not the case

[lone lantern]

And it only seems to be happening in Walmarts in Nevada.

The irony.

This is karma for calling reno Las Vegas for losers.

[snow tangle]

I bet nobody wouldve find it a big deal, if the trailer had been released, but the fact we have no trailer yet, then these toys leaks, speaks volume.

[patent hazel]

The ‘RPK’ guy said the tagline for the movie’s marketing is ‘this ends now’

[snow tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/this-ends-now-randy-marsh-south-park-enough-no-more-gif-20334481

Such a weird tagline to put for a 3rd movie of a trilogy, That will eventually get a 4th, and more spinoffs, But ok

[steep sequoia]

Yeah this tagline will get many people confused lmao

[snow tangle]

While it is a 3rd in a trilogy, and they gotta go really big on this one, Because who knows what the fate of Robotnik will be, This could potentially be Jim Carrey's final film, and he has to go out with a bang.

[wind sparrow]

This ends now
Yeaaaah we’re most likely getting a 4th film anyways lol

[wind sparrow]

I personally think after this film they could go the 06 route with Silver and Iblis OR go the Sonic Rush Adventure route with the other dimension and the pirates

[snow tangle]

One other direction they can go, is with animation

There is also Metal Sonic, Who can be a potential primary antagonist.

[warm basin]

why do we trust this dude anyway

[snow tangle]

This movie could be written in such a way that it will be the conclusion for Robotnik, and setting up another antagonist at the end.

[warm basin]

if this true its not the worst tagline

considering shadow said that many times but still

but wishes are eternal still better

[steep sequoia]

paramount has forgotten about sonic movie 3

[snow tangle]

Its probably gonna be some moment during the climax where Shadow says "Robotnik! This ends now!"

As soon as he becomes Super Shadow

[vale raft]

if hes right... i wish they did "wishes are eternal"

[wind sparrow]

No lol

Just a reminder about RPK

[north vault]

We don’t! But some people keep giving him the time of day for some reason

[lone lantern]

I could see that tagline being used if it’s the end of this chapter of the story so far

Or this era of the storytelling or something, if it’s true. Which I’m iffy on.

Sonic 2’s tagline was welcome to the next level right?

[snow tangle]

Yep

It couldve been something like Welcome to the final level

[unique osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-lying-stan-marsh-kenny-mccormick-south-park-s5e1-gif-22111222

[wind sparrow]

Bruh https://x.com/stixstixy/status/1820145027386916909?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

Stix (SLOTS FULL) (@Stixstixy) on X

It’s actually insane how Jakks is threatening to sue people over buying Sonic 3 figures when they’re the ones who shipped them out.

Twitter · Aug 4, 2024, 5:09 PM

[open maple]

TBF that they are shipped doesn't mean they should be revealed to the public.

I do recall one time that I wanted a game at Game Planet and they already had it but it was not until the authorized release date that they could properly sell it. It would remain at a vault of the store in the meantime

[wind sparrow]

Yeah but why sue the buyers and not the actual company that’s selling them to the consumer

[lone lantern]

They could be doing that tbh. Since that’s more so inner business stuff, I would imagine that they’re probably getting on the retailers case about not respecting the embargo

Therefore, behind close doors since that isn’t something that needs to be public ig.

When you’re a common dude picking up the toys, that weren’t meant to be shelved up yet. Take pictures of it, putting them up on eBay for about a thousand dollars. A company is gonna take an offensive to that too, because they believe it’s gonna mess up their money or something like that.

Company semantics lol

[wind sparrow]

Especially when they’re letting said consumer buy the product before the toys were revealed

[unique osprey]

yeah my sympathy is gone lmfao

sue Walmart not fucking sonic fans

[wind sparrow]

EXACTLY

The fans are just excited and wanna share said excitement. Not our fault Walmart put the toys up early and are letting people buy them

[north vault]

I can imagine they're prolly having stern words with retailers, but they're not gonna actually sue em for the simple reason of "they would like the retailers to continue buying their product"

[unique osprey]

then don’t sue anybody

[open maple]

In the disclosure they said they had sent various cease and desist messages, and this is on particular to those who haven't taken them down

[unique osprey]

like scaring off sonic fans with legal litigation isn’t gonna solve anything aside from making the people buying the sonic figures upset

[lone lantern]

The dm's were the warnings ig

[open maple]

mhm, and because those people didn't obey the warnings

sue it is

[lone lantern]

Can't not say they didn't ask them to put down the photos

[wind sparrow]

That doesn’t help the fact the toys are still out in the wild

[open maple]

yeah sure but they only request you to erase the images via dms

and the sue is on those who didn't do it

[olive vortex]

I mean they’re going for the suing route is because they didn’t take the pictures down

And still kept them up

[open maple]

Is not even the act of buying the toys on itself

but more so on uploading the images and not taking them down per request

[lone lantern]

Yeah, they seem about fine with that. Because if you did, you could just keep that to yourself in that case.

Also, some stores are rejecting those that do want to buy them because they aren't beyond embargo.
So it's a backwards ass situation lol

[unique osprey]

they’re sonic 3 toys, it’s the most visibility anybody has had of the movie for the last few months

I don’t feel anything for jaaks here because none of the toys are genuinely spoilery and sonic fans were never held to an embargo

I guess users who never took their shit down deserve it more, but not by much. I feel like if you’re gonna threaten a lawsuit over it you’ve lost the plot and it gives the idea that it’s only gonna get worse (the leaks)

[open maple]

They only specifically mention those who ignored the warnings in this sue

so it is totally on those people that they didn't obey the warnings, for better or worse

not for everyone who uploaded the images

only on those who uploaded them and refused to take them down

[unique osprey]

yeah I mentioned that in the second chunk

[lone lantern]

I think it's less about feeling for jakks as it's more so..
"Yeah, that's about expected." For me at least

[boreal canyon]

gonna be honest, this doesn’t surprise me and I cannot be arsed to outrage about this

We always knew that this was a possibility when you get into leaking shit

[open maple]

I prefer to take my time to read into this and make sure my stance is as well informed as possible

[boreal canyon]

People are always like “well don’t worry, they never actually do anything about it”

[lone lantern]

Spoilery or not, deals and agreements are made on products and when they're supposed to be up on shelves/exposed to the public.
It's just what's gonna happen, no matter the media as David kinda said.

[boreal canyon]

And now it has happened

Perhaps it’ll make more people think twice about leaking stuff for clout and then not taking it down when asked nicely

(No this is not me siding with the big corporation)

[open maple]

In this case, a say of my country comes:

Sobre advertencia no hay engaño

[boreal canyon]

And as they say in burger land: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

[north vault]

"please do not do X or we will do Y"
[does X anyways]
[original person does Y in response]
"I can't believe they're doing Y!! no way we could've known!!"

[boreal canyon]

Why would paramount do this?!?!?!?

[open maple]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

People when they do the very thing they are warned about to stop doing

[north vault]

anyways jakks has bigger problems on its plate, I just got neo metal and the paint job kinda sucks smh smh >:((

(/s)

(but man the paint job does kinda suck lol, reeeeeeeeally needed some silver on it instead of white)

[olive vortex]

Not gonna lie, ain’t say I’m surprised the merch news screwed up their life

They were told to take it down and they didn’t 🤷‍♂️

[open maple]

Yeah. It's more so on people not taking for granted that they have an online profile for 'protection' because it won't always work that way

[boreal canyon]

dunno if anyone here is an archival nerd but I’m about to delete this tweet https://x.com/tailschannel/status/1806384704192684207?s=46&t=iWy_7QEAGkfstMMOuyN8Og

Tails' Channel (@TailsChannel) on X

Here's a look at Jakks' "Ultimate Talking Sonic" for #SonicMovie3, including lines and sounds from the Movie and light up eyes and quills.

Notably, we can see other characters in the back, including a supposedly final Movie Shadow design.
h/t @sonictoyhunter

#SonicNews

Twitter · Jun 27, 2024, 5:50 PM

if someone wanted to save the images or something

[open maple]

Had Jacks sent you a c&d?

[boreal canyon]

better safe than sorry

[olive vortex]

Na go ahead and delete

[open maple]

True.

[olive vortex]

Don’t want TC getting in any sorts of trouble

[wind sparrow]

Question

If one of us did get the toys could we share the images here

No I didn’t get the toys I’m just curious is all

[open maple]

I think in private areas is fine

just not in open places like twitter

but even then don't take too much risks

[snow tangle]

In here more then likely

[lone lantern]

There could be a snake in our midst

[open maple]

Correct

[vestal sage]

This I, I was the snake all along

[olive vortex]

The snake in question ||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/nick-sanjayandcraig/images/c/c3/CraigT.png/revision/latest?cb=20130723082449||

Crude png

[lost plume]

Fucking liars it isn't a legal threat for buying, it's a threat for sharing photos online but ofcourse this community doesn't like to read so we'll believe the dude who said a single sentance when the ACTUAL document states otherwise

Why are so many people genuinely acting like the biggest fucking idiots regarding this film

"so the toys leak but no trailer? This is Paramount's fault, this marketing is wild"

You daft brainless mass of flesh, the movie releases at the END of December, they have shit coming out beforehand that requires priority marketing like Transformers One and such. They won't post constant Sonic posts for like 6 months prior, there's other shit to do

They have TF One, Smile 2, and Gladiator 2 prior to Sonic

Those things make money

[boreal canyon]

they’re in this discord server lol I wonder if I should just tag them

[lost plume]

Do it idgaf

[snow tangle]

Some people are on the fence about Gladiator 2, The trailer didn't make a good impression on it, The choice of music and all that stuff.

[olive vortex]

Sonic fans understand marketing other things besides Sonic challenge

[lost plume]

That isn't the fucking point READ

Oh my God

[snow tangle]

Whatever

just saying

the trailer is supposed to make a good impression, and the choice of music kind of put people off

[olive vortex]

????????

We’re talking about sonic fans not having basic reading comprehension and crying about the lawsuit

Not about gladiator using rap music

💀

[steep sequoia]

[olive vortex]

That’s like two completely opposite things 😭

[steep sequoia]

Is your head spinning, TIger?

[north vault]

meanwhile I'm just here waiting desperately for TFOne merch to start popping up locally

the figures for it look genuinely banger

[lost plume]

Going "whatever" to exactly contributing to the point I was just making about people not reading is fucking wild

[north vault]

giv oppy

(oddly enough they're doing a studio series release at the same time and he's got a completely different mold for that? with arguably weirder design choices??)

same scale and everything too, think there's like a fiver price difference IIRC?

[lost plume]

Found out there's also like a secret mini Chris Hemsworth inside it

Wild

If you find him he will grant you a single wish

[lone lantern]

https://x.com/sonicstadium/status/1820180938975818181

Sonic Stadium ✪ Sonic News & Community (@sonicstadium) on X

This letter from Jakks very clearly mentions a 'non-disclosure agreement'.

These sorts of documents don't go out willy-nilly; someone is likely to have breached some signed agreed embargo, given the language here.

The question is; did whoever post those photos sign an NDA?

Twitter · Aug 4, 2024, 7:32 PM

Yeah, so about in line with what I and some others were thinking/comprehended

[open maple]

Most likely they did or Jakks wouldn't have acted on it

[lost plume]

Yea it's not whatever nonsense OP said

[north vault]

"I wish there was a movie toys subtheme with an incredibly badly thought-out name"

[lone lantern]

I also think it’s really silly that some fans are taking the figures as a capacity of how much importance a character will have in the movie.

I’m fairly sure that the reason why knuckles or tails aren’t on the back of a box is because they don’t wanna make the graphic design look even more compact/crowded, and lose pixel quality lol

[lost plume]

go go gadget change pigment

[north vault]

sgvxddsbfsbghdfzgh

[glacial cliff]

I feel like they're just empty threats to scare people

But who knows

Lawyers can find a loophole if they want to

[lone lantern]

Also, Don’t tell people that shadow has the furrowed forehead wrinkles subtly in his mold for the Sonic 3 figures.

Gives em the ick.

[balmy fiber]

Yea but its very subtle

Its not a sea of wrinkles like sonic 2 and knuckles series

[lone lantern]

Does help he’s all black.

Well, other than the stripe reaching to his forehead

Some might get squirmy if it gets kinda bunched up there, but we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it

But in regards to Sonic in movie 3, hopefully they manage that wrinkle/muscle switch fairly well, because it’s the same VFX people and pipeline

Jesus H. Christ I paused at the wrong time

[unique osprey]

mfnsjfnksjfemdkv

[lone lantern]

Cause this is what you get when you turn that switch off.

[balmy fiber]

Oh god

[snow tangle]

Sonic 3 is probably gonna have so much more detail

[lone lantern]

The muscle gives the brows their definition, but it can sometimes get..overzealous. So it’s a pick and choose type of deal

[balmy fiber]

Ew

This looks like it would be fine without it

[balmy fiber]

This however? Why.

He looks like he has shaved brows

[lone lantern]

When you got no muscle to define what the brows are doing, there’s no outline to be had

Considering Sonic’s forehead is considered like 90% brow. Without its protruding look, it just doesn’t do much for the eyes

I do think the Knuckles series (and by extension, the look for Sonic 3) is stronger through the new VFX vendors despite that lil thing.

[dire quiver]

He looks really good at the left here.

[balmy fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-excited-happy-hooray-yay-gif-17090707

They should give him the uh

Eye thing

Eye bones

So he doesnt look

Eyebrowless

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-movie-gif-8099861505342108139

See what i mean

They got rid of it

[lone lantern]

According to Tyson, still there.

Albeit, with additional new rigging to keep up technical updates ofc.

Cause there are also moments when his brows move upwards and are just fine from the bunched up wrinkle look to.

[balmy fiber]

Man he looks so weird

[lone lantern]

I also think a thing that make people subconsciously think he looks off is his irises

They got thinned like his game counterpart

[torn scarab]

wtf did they do to my goat

[balmy fiber]

Yea but there is something else about his eyes that doesnt look great

Sonic 1 is the best he has looked

[dire quiver]

We still need to see how he really will look with S3.

I don't think he will look the same as he looked in Knuckles.

[snow tangle]

https://fixvx.com/therealcineor/status/1820208630710304788

[unique osprey]

wait so they’re dubbing the trailer but not the movie

why

why not just dub the movie and then edit that dub in accordance to the trailer

(the tweet is also clickbait as nothing here is said about it being in the final stages)

[snow tangle]

Sometimes they put out trailers based on the footage they received

[boreal canyon]

more money

[open maple]

according to Lalo Garza (director of DBS dub in Latam) movies are dubbed around 2 months or so before release

[snow tangle]

They get footage out of the editing bay, and then they make a trailer based on it, So the movie isn't fully edited yet

[open maple]

so they focus on dubbing the trailers first for that very reason

[snow tangle]

This is why sometimes trailers feature footage not in the movies

[unique osprey]

that’s not exactly how movie editing works

they’d have some kind of production cut done

not w finished footage

but essentially the complete film

[snow tangle]

CinemaCon show footage, But it was stuff that they had to quickly put together.

[unique osprey]

that’s not what im talking about

Do you think they wait until every single piece of footage for a movie is ready before they start editing it

[snow tangle]

Its a workprint, a version of the movie without the FX.

They have people work on every scene, and then once all the shots are done, it goes right into editing

[unique osprey]

okay now take that but also include finished vfx, unfinished vfx, and some random storyboards they hadn’t filed in for the timeline yet

that’s what im talking about in terms of production cut

[snow tangle]

Workprints also have placeholder images, which a CGI or something is supposed to be

[lost plume]

this is a common phrase said to him today 😭

[lone lantern]

He isn’t gonna look too far off

If we’re going by Toby Aschers word on how the two projects shared about the same if not more VFX vendors.

That and having about the same quality

He might be a tad bit more polished though, considering he’s the main face and isn’t there for like a 4 minutes of runtime though ofc.

But nonetheless, it’s virtually gonna be the same look that is the same model since movie 1, just steadily updated.

[snow tangle]

https://fixvx.com/GamesCage_/status/1820151793281642688

[open maple]

He is losing his mind at this point

[torn scarab]

The black hedgehog fucking ended me

[left umbra]

Turns out the person that made this C&D is an online troll

[open maple]

Oh

That's a dick move

[unique osprey]

Sonic fanbase having a normal one

[dire quiver]

And everybody believed it.

[open maple]

It was enough concrete to be believable tbf

like you had very good language of legalities and what not

[snow tangle]

Looks like Sonic Movie 3 plushies were also being sold at Walmart. https://x.com/godplzHeLpFaSt1/status/1820153210277155088

HappyMeal (@godplzHeLpFaSt1) on X

ain’t no way my Walmart has Sonic 3 stuff out before the trailer 😭

Twitter · Aug 4, 2024, 5:41 PM

Apparently that plushie are actually from Sonic 2, But the person who spotted it, also saw a Tails and Shadow plushie

[unique osprey]

oh my god 😭

[balmy fiber]

No way

[snow tangle]

https://x.com/godplzHeLpFaSt1/status/1820273236040438216

HappyMeal (@godplzHeLpFaSt1) on X

@KellytoyDK nah I checked it was blank, although I also saw tails and shadow. Some little kids were playing with them lol. Idk if knuckles is in the set because I couldn’t find him. sorry for the burry pic it was a live photo lol.

Twitter · Aug 5, 2024, 1:38 AM

[wind sparrow]

It literally is the Sonic 2 plush lmao

[snow tangle]

Yeah, But also mentions they have a Tails and Shadow too

[wind sparrow]

I have the Sonic, Tails, and Knux ones

[snow tangle]

Hopefully somebody post a pic the Shadow one

[wind sparrow]

I’d just need to get Shadow

[torn scarab]

Those little kids knew exactly what the fuck they were doing😭

[snow tangle]

of course

Here he is https://x.com/J4c_kl/status/1820226025046806995

🔞 J4c_kl 🔞 // Nekomata VTuber (@J4c_kl) on X

So I found him at walmart. Unfortunately they didn't let me buy him. Cmon bro I need a Sonic 3 trailer

Twitter · Aug 4, 2024, 10:31 PM

[ripe cypress]

Of course they wouldn't 😭

This same exact thing happened with the Lego Shadow sets for me

Smh such teases...

[torn scarab]

They’ll keep teasing till trailer is here

[ripe cypress]

"Oh erm you can't buy it actually" "Then why is it on the shelf right now?" "idk"

[torn scarab]

Which is in 364748485956367 years

[ripe cypress]

LOOK AT THE DATES FOR WHEN YOU SHOULD STOCK THINGS GRAAAAH

[torn scarab]

just steal it

[ripe cypress]

Legit would not be surprised if some do

[torn scarab]

You can hold the fact that they stocked it on the wrong date against them

[ripe cypress]

The Shadow motorcycles had one package opened and missing the minifigure when they "couldn't be sold" 🫡

[wind sparrow]

not let me buy him
THEN WHY PUT IT ON THE FREAKIN SHELF

[ripe cypress]

Because Walmart

[wind sparrow]

How do people get away with the toys then 😭

[torn scarab]

You can hold it against them that they stocked it on the shelves during the wrong period

[torn scarab]

Stealing

[snow tangle]

I see two listings on the walmart site now.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sonic-3-Movie-2-5-Sonic/5705486863

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sonic-3-Movie-2-5-Shadow/5979455005

[torn scarab]

Or maybe you could blackmail Jakks and force them to give u something

[snow tangle]

The Sonic cost more then the Shadow

[torn scarab]

Walmart

[snow tangle]

8.27 for Sonic, 4.97 for Shadow

Found the others

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sonic-3-Movie-2-5-Knuckles/5980500220

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sonic-3-Movie-2-5-Robotnik/5992063271

[wind sparrow]

I have to go to Walmart tomorrow anyways for a poster frame for my Hi-Fi Rush print. So I’ll keep an eye out for em

[ripe cypress]

Weird that no one has asked when they're allowed to be sold yet

[wind sparrow]

If I see them tomorrow I’ll ask

[snow tangle]

As long as the Walgreens store didn't received some memo to not sell the Sonic 3 toys

[torn scarab]

They probably have but they’re under something to not give out specific information about the plushes

[wind sparrow]

https://x.com/saikyo7_/status/1820287808080118123?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

Saikyō (@Saikyo7_) on X

It's so wild going to Walmart and seeing the Sonic Movie 3 Shadow plush??

Twitter · Aug 5, 2024, 2:36 AM

[unique osprey]

im gonna go on a quest the next time i visit walmart

[ripe cypress]

I probably should get around to buying the rest of the lego master emerald shine anyways

I haven't been to walmart in ages with how much closer kroger has been lol

[wise turret]

Full Shadow design and its leaked via toys

Toys that, btw, the main licensor are trying to cover up due to internal marketing bullshit

[lost plume]

Honestly the design "leaking" isn't really all that big because well

We knew exactly how he'd look lol

Shadow but with fur lacking the monoeye

[wind sparrow]

My Walmart does not have the toys

[muted kernel]

broo it’s so good I need this in my collection

[meager granite]

Going to Walmart in a couple minutes should I check if they have

[muted kernel]

I’m convinced this is paramounts marketing and this wasn’t an accident

[muted kernel]

so far I’ve heard they have appeared at walmart in cali, and Minnesota

[meager granite]

Minnesota is in the middle of the country. Hmmmm we’ll see

[warm basin]

https://vxtwitter.com/ryokutya837/status/1820777851756675318
"Sonic the Hedgehog" will be published as a comic in CoroCoro Comic, and a special booth will be set up at the Tokyo Big Sight event."
"Participated in Korokoro Soul Festival in Tokyo Toy Show, with a large collection of test stands and goods
Shadow the Hedgehog" serialization begins in the October issue of CoroCoro Comic."
guys..........

[ripe cypress]

[warm basin]

sonic manga......................

https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

[urban scroll]

Classic Sonic manga

[glacial cliff]

I wonder who the artist will be

[unique osprey]

https://vxtwitter.com/amogusbakalol/status/1820855843270906051?s=46&t=9-8r2BsnJTX3NUa7wKHeIQ

[snow tangle]

https://x.com/AmogusBakalol/status/1820863081683026214

AntBean (@AmogusBakalol) on X

Before you say "Fake"
My friend was able to buy the toy and recorded the lines
I'm pretty sure soon more people will be able buy it and you will see they are the exact same voice lines
Also I put background music so people don't steal the video

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 4:42 PM

[steep sequoia]

Don't think it's easy fake an actual toy figurine at all anyways

But barely means much regardless

[open maple]

the phrases are from movie 1 and 2 for the most part

not much to get from this

[wind sparrow]

Most of these are on the Build a Bear

[dire quiver]

Is there none from movie 3?

[olive vortex]

They usually make these toys months before any prior filming even begins

[open maple]

Not sure if any belongs to movie 3, I'll have to check but I could identify most of them coming from the first two movies

[snow tangle]

The blue justice line gotta be from movie 2

[wind sparrow]

Uh huh

[open maple]

it is

it is before sonic leaves after the robbery attempt

[dire quiver]

Yea, I was wondering about this.

30 phrases with some from S3.

[snow tangle]

https://fixvx.com/therealcineor/status/1820876336002424914

[ripe cypress]

This is not a rumor

[balmy fiber]

Hmm

[snow tangle]

I be fine if it was a prequel, But I think it would be a show in which Shadow works for GUN, and he goes on some missions to stop the bad guys.

[wind sparrow]

Literally ignores the name of the chat

[wind sparrow]

https://x.com/sonicmovietv/status/1820884268090044435?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

SONIC MOVIE TV (@SonicMovieTV) on X

BREAKING: All of SONIC TOY's voice lines have been leaked. Talk about some MEMORABLE quotes!

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 6:06 PM