#Sonic Rumours & Speculation

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glacial cliff
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Whiney to deplorable

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The fact that he threatened to ruin someone's reputation over his assumption that they stole a spike model

ancient moss
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A SPIKE MODEL TOO

subtle acorn
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he's familiar with ruining reputations

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part 2 goes over that

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also a lot of the screenshots are like

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literally this year recent

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which is pretty crazy

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he was harrassing other fan game devs as far back as even just about 10 days ago

glacial cliff
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Is this person black by any chance?

subtle acorn
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digi?

glacial cliff
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Yeah

subtle acorn
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He says he's white in one of the screenshots

glacial cliff
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Oh

subtle acorn
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one of the ones where he is saying slurs

glacial cliff
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Yeesh

subtle acorn
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it still gets worse after that

ancient moss
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and then u get the pedo shit on top of that

subtle acorn
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honestly I'd recommend just reading the whole thing before saying many thoughts on the situation

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cause it gets worse the further in you go

subtle acorn
glacial cliff
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Man I had a hunch about this guy but like... I just didn't dig deeper, but I knew David has been cooking something for a while

subtle acorn
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David wasn't a part of this

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I actually saw the doc before him lmao

glacial cliff
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Really?

subtle acorn
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he just posted it here to make sure it can be seen by more people and so tc could know

glacial cliff
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Cause David sorta clued me in at some point in the past year

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At least from gamefam's perspective

subtle acorn
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yeah he did know

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like a lot of us have been sitting on knowing this

glacial cliff
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Yeah

subtle acorn
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but we did not have anything to do with the doc

boreal canyon
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I knew about this for a long time but I had no way to take action

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I didn't have any ammo like this person did

glacial cliff
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Btw

subtle acorn
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yeah the racism and pedo shit was new info

glacial cliff
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Shortly after this guy quit gamefaq

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I remember there was another twitter account that sued gamefam over Speed Sim

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Or something like that

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It was like 1-2 months after

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Does that have anything to do with this

subtle acorn
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I imagine they got owned

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but I don't remember that

glacial cliff
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Do u remember it david?

boreal canyon
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was it the article that dropped regarding gamefam trying to stop people from talking about pay

glacial cliff
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Yes

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That

boreal canyon
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so what actually happened was, that was a settled case from way before, but people dug it up way after the fact

glacial cliff
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Oh

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Way before as in before speed sim even?

boreal canyon
glacial cliff
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So he was a lazy hack

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Who was racist and creepy

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And thought his shit was special

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Honestly

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Him talking like that to someone he knows is 14 is just wild

dire quiver
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How old are they in comparison?

glacial cliff
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And to lie about helping his dad while his little brother does it instead?

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Idk but he literally says he doesn't date minors to that 14 year old

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So at least above 18

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But I'm guessing 20 at the time

dire quiver
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That is a big oof, they definitely know they shouldn't engage like that.

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Shouldn't.

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Also the amount of N words with the knowledge they're white and know it's not acceptable to say it...

static elm
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Wair what the fuck is happening ?

torn scarab
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That’s what I’m wondering

subtle acorn
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This is what's happening

static elm
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Never heard of any of them

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But that digi guy seems like an asshole

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Same for the other

left umbra
balmy fiber
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NINTENDO SHIFT

urban scroll
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Hell nah this mobile gaming shit is getting outta hand

clutch.webp
tardy pivot
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It'd be better than the other name they were rumored to have

balmy fiber
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I like it

tardy pivot
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Switch attach would legit be a worse name than wii u

urban scroll
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The Switch Shift

balmy fiber
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Oh man now is the thing

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Would it be too similar to switch

urban scroll
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They'll probably give it a bulkier redesign to differentiate it from the base switch

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And not like

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Smooth the Wii out and make it a new console

glacial cliff
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NINTENDO DRIFT

wind frigate
urban scroll
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Oh

balmy fiber
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L O L

wind sparrow
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Splatoon 4 already?

balmy fiber
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Christ

boreal canyon
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Nintendo CoD

open maple
balmy fiber
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I dont like how many splatoon games there is already

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They gotta change stuff next time, i dont know how

ripe cypress
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Nintendo has to have one ready for Switch 2's launch, of course

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And yeah it's 100% Nintendo's CoD

balmy fiber
ripe cypress
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Actually nvm

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wise turret
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game 4 on the Switch 2 before a new console Mario Kart

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why not

balmy fiber
ripe cypress
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Two per console generation isn't there yet

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Yet

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Ironically I think CoD kinda spurred the sentiment we have towards live-service multiplayer shooters nowadays?

north vault
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"agent 8 you need to stop squid JFK being splatted"

ripe cypress
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Like it kinda struck me how crazy it is that Fortnite exists the other day

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An entire shooter, lego game, racer, and rhythm game and more

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All free

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All endlessly supported

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Buying entire games for the same thing sounds like being a chump comparatively

wind sparrow
wise turret
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can't wait for the Splatoon live service game that lasts just long enough to the point of it suddenly ending support right when it gets good

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... what do you mean all the games are like this

open maple
wind sparrow
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I’ll be completely honest with y’all

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I kinda zoned out of Splatoon 3

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It was fun at first but I just missed all the Splatfests and it was just meh after awhile cause it felt exactly like Splatoon 2

umbral gale
wind sparrow
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So SxSG

wise turret
wind sparrow
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Unless there’s more Sonic games incoming

north vault
open maple
wise turret
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it's like a hint or something

open maple
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so more than just sxsg

wind sparrow
umbral gale
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Maybe she is referring to Movie 3?

north vault
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(half of them simply down to "tried to make it a paid thing when fort's success is cos its a free game")

umbral gale
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Because what the hell else have they got to reveal at this point

north vault
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(lego 2kDrive my ever-loathed)

wise turret
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and it still is btw

north vault
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that's

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that's what I said lmao

wise turret
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just needed to add in some context

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had Battle Royale been paid only (much like Save the World) the game would've died

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but because it's free to play (and on some platforms for a long while, the only mode available) the game saw a new life

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can't say the same about StW tho

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shit is practically on life support now, with how the only way you can get it is by buying the starter pack for it at the start of a new BR season

wind frigate
olive vortex
glacial cliff
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Sonic Central time?

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Where no new news

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Only recaps

keen wren
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itw likey gonna take years especially if that team is in dev on animal crossing

left umbra
balmy fiber
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HUH

left umbra
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Guess it’s safe to say she obvs won’t be posting Nintendo info for the foreseeable future

open maple
steep sequoia
ripe cypress
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The gap between 2 and 3 will be the longest with five years between them

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2 came out two years after 1 so ig this will be the second longest wait?

wind frigate
open maple
vale raft
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we love midori

umbral gale
patent hazel
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‘Things’

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So Friday sgf we aren’t just getting sxsg

wise turret
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English please

wind frigate
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movie bros are we back

patent hazel
urban scroll
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JSR?👀

patent hazel
steep sequoia
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^

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And even then I doubt we'll see JSR at all this year

open maple
meager granite
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Hoping I get off at 4:30 on Friday if I work

random portal
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It’ll be like Game Awards 2021 all over again

left umbra
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I wish

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Hoping between now and Friday the movie account mentions Geoff / SGF asking if there is space available 🤞

olive vortex
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I’m just lowering my expectations

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They prob only mean just shadow generations

boreal canyon
static elm
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Damn

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That's foul

patent hazel
wind sparrow
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Iirc yes

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Oh wait no

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It was for Frontiers

olive vortex
patent hazel
olive vortex
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A few days beforehand @patent hazel

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Like 2 or 3

steep sequoia
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Oh you must remember this super well Fiery...

olive vortex
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Ya unfortunately 😭

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I’m also gonna be attending live so I’m pretty amped up for this

glacial cliff
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Lmao

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First Pyoro now Midori

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These youtube back end goons will someday get victory

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Jk

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Cause that's not how this stuff works lol

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If their databases weren't encrypted they'd be leaked to shit and back

dire quiver
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I love how she has to announce that she is sleepy.

random portal
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LET HER SLEEP

urban scroll
wind frigate
open maple
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Hm

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it'll be interessting to see what they do

olive vortex
warm basin
vale raft
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isn't metaphor supposed to be a new ip

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by that i mean its not a one off thing

warm basin
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Midori said that studio zero already have some ideas for sequel if the game gonna sell well

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So yea

steep sequoia
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Honestly that's very good to hear

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That just shows how much confidence ATLUS have with Metaphor

warm basin
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tbh right now i dont see that metaphor is gonna fail

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they market the game really well and it looks like the game is gonna be great

patent hazel
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Wdym ‘mostly’

keen wren
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Phobic man can stay over there and away from persona

lost plume
steep sequoia
ripe cypress
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Other???

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Amazon Prime's Silver the Hedgehog...

steep sequoia
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💀

urban scroll
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Tubi presents The Chaotix

torn scarab
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Hulu presents the Babylon Rogues

left umbra
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Max presents… oh wait

urban scroll
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😭

lost snow
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Netlifx presents Sonic Prime presents Shadow

random portal
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Hotstar's Deadly Six six-parter limited series

urban scroll
keen wren
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Means it wont be limited to whatever the film is doing

wind sparrow
lone lantern
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Let tails get his flowers, I’m begging

gloomy bloom
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could this be how we get a cool short animated sonic series that looks cool and has a cool story? bigsad

lone lantern
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Someone will get it wholesale eventually

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Probably not precisely, but. I think there’s enough history with so many shows, and their pros & cons that a new show within..idk 5 years could do something solid.

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Maybe 5 years is a stretch. 3 or 4 lol

gloomy bloom
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I'd die happily with a fun action packed show with decent writing and soundtrack by Powerhouse or something

lost plume
gloomy bloom
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and not Wade????
gonna kms

lost plume
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Wade will guest star

north vault
wind sparrow
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We should have a series on what happens when both Tom and Wade are out of town. How does Green Hills manage with no cops around

north vault
open maple
static elm
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Literally nothing would happen

balmy fiber
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Of all propositions... lol

dire quiver
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So, basically relying on the mobian characters to protect the town?

static elm
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They'd have to force something... honestly i feel like it would end up being some cringy non sensical thing

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That would blow up because of their incompetence

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Which would then get resolved they'll finally get their shit tgthr

lost plume
random portal
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I thought Green Hills has nothing bad happening that’s why Tom wanted to transfer in the first movie?

open maple
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Yeah, it's a very uneventful town. At least, it was until Sonic got the spotlight

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it kinda is like Bellwood in Ben 10

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before, it was chill but after he got the Omnitrix, it started to get plenty of activity

steep sequoia
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💀

lost plume
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Super Bowl 2.0

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Let's get some nachos ready

steep sequoia
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Geoff is such a fucking hack man LMAO

lost plume
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It's so weird

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Because TGA and SGF come from him not liking how shit was done before

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And at the start, it was a major improvement

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But he fell into the same trappings

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He lived long enough to become the villain

open maple
steep sequoia
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oh yeah fair

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I guess it comes down over how you delivered

ancient moss
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honestly i doubt sega is paying as much if at all, given how many sonic fans there are who tune in specifically for sonic

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like, for smaller shows compared to TGS like these, theyre a very large portion of the audience

steep sequoia
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agreed

warm basin
open maple
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Yeah, again Superstars got nearly 2 minutes in last year's summer games fest

I'm sure they can pull something big for Shadow

patent hazel
balmy fiber
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No we arent

warm basin
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guys i think sega is indie studio and they dont have money

steep sequoia
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They have always been a indie company. plz understand

wind frigate
static elm
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Yeah

wind frigate
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ahh things never change keanu

warm basin
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ok so according to billibil-kun shadow gens release are ||october 22th||

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hes reliable leaker

wise turret
balmy fiber
warm basin
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it looks like the game supposed to come in march but they delay it

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source

balmy fiber
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KF1KQRKWTVKVWK2KV26K26V WHAT

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MARCH?!

urban scroll
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Oh that's on my brothers birthday

steep sequoia
balmy fiber
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How the hell march

quaint mountain
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The way I read it is they had a tentative release date for Gens in March

wind frigate
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oh hey that’s my birthday

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month

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would’ve had shadow for it bigsad

quaint mountain
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not that the game was supposed to release on March

balmy fiber
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Ah ok

quaint mountain
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anyway that's 6 days after my birthday

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which is kinda rough, but whatever

warm basin
wind frigate
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Any time a sonic game is released outside the October-November window I feel the scales are tipped out of balance

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Well

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Shadow is

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Spooky scary hedgehog ooooo

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So october

warm basin
vale raft
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sales will pick up again once the movie comes

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just look at superstars and knuckles show

warm basin
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nah i still think the sales are gonna be good

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i just think they would be better if they release the game in november

lone lantern
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October honestly isn’t bad, strategy wise.

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Right on the cusp of overlap for marketing of movie 3, with a month space between the two. It honestly has favors I think

quaint mountain
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CoD releases October 25th

warm basin
lone lantern
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You see the vision

warm basin
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so i think itl be fine

vale raft
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sxsg will have 3 days to itself i think that's more than enough

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and sales will jump in december for sure

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so no need to worry about cod burying sxsg

dire quiver
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October 22nd is a plausible date, but I don't know just how reliable this leaker is so I'll wait for more.

warm basin
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plus if the game are also good so yeah i dont think we have to worry

dire quiver
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But it's interesting to know that they wanted to release it at march at one point.

warm basin
vale raft
dire quiver
# warm basin hes reliable

If they are, then it's good, I just don't know them though. (And also, I do not trust unannounced dates, as they very much are subject to being changed like the message is stressing).

warm basin
vale raft
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release date drop tomorrow or at gamescom

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likebigsad

warm basin
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probably tomorrow

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billibil-kun said that release date are gonna be revealed at next 10 days

balmy fiber
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Aka tomorrow lmao

wind frigate
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guysssss

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shadow gens tomorrow

warm basin
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tomorrow?????????????????????????????

gloomy bloom
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tomorrow??????

lone lantern
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On the morrow

gloomy bloom
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Tomorrow???Tomorrow!!!Tomorrow???Tomorrow!!!

warm basin
lost plume
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I must prevent tomorrow from coming

torn scarab
wind frigate
lost plume
open maple
runic pulsar
balmy fiber
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Yipeee

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Oh boy i cannot wait

random portal
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Raw

open maple
glacial cliff
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Each games marketing budget is dozen+ million dollars

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And thats for really cheap games

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And so far they only spent money on the PS showcase trailer

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Which is probably around the same

dire quiver
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That's nice.

patent hazel
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Hang castle

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balmy fiber
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???

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Thats just the moon tbh

lost snow
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Is Hang Castle the only stage with a moon?

patent hazel
open maple
patent hazel
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I think it could be 2 stages per game

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For shadow

lost snow
patent hazel
wind sparrow
cedar ember
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when was the last time we seen a yellow moon in a Sonic game

random portal
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Gens

steep sequoia
cedar ember
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piss yellow

torn scarab
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Eggman really did piss on the moon

cedar ember
balmy fiber
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Well, ill just stay here

cedar ember
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although it isn't as orange

gloomy bloom
balmy fiber
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Also while its fair to compare the moons

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I feel this is just

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A transformation

wind sparrow
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||Are people really giving Ian crap for the Gerald journal that isn’t even out yet 💀||

blazing belfry
blazing belfry
wind sparrow
open maple
open maple
# blazing belfry The WHAT

||Basically one of the preorder bonus is Gerald's journal with explicit information of Angel Island and the creation of Shadow||

cedar ember
keen wren
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"Explicit"

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I urge you all to please wait

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They have lied to us for our dollar please wait. Especially with books

open maple
# keen wren "Explicit"

||I mean why would you do a journal with non-explicit information? It's suppose to be a register of what you do ||

blazing belfry
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Oh God

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We are so back

keen wren
blazing belfry
keen wren
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The same reason you bring chaos back and you dont fight him

wise turret
# cedar ember yeah

insane how my first exposure to this was not Geoff Keighley’s washed up show, it was posted in a server owned by the guy that recently got famous for posting a video that had a Fortnite character speak gibberish

open maple
keen wren
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Or you make an encyclopedia and its quickly rendered not really relevant to shit

keen wren
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Just wait

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Please

wise turret
keen wren
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Litterally this is a company who has strait up decived you for a dollar. Just wait

open maple
keen wren
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Same with the gameplay tbh

keen wren
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And you get a blurb || this didnt help with the shadow project||

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Then what

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Like if it was any other franchise i would call it

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This is sonic and sega please wait

lone lantern
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Idk, I feel like with a project that’s so shadow centric & marketed, and the main drive being that of looking at his own past in..whatever extent the game will go. I don’t think a meaty glimpse into shadow’s creation as an addition, wouldn’t be too far fetched.
More so with the focus on narrative details, more than the last decade did. With Flynn on, and soj view of it shifting in taking everything into consideration of the characters and stories they have and such.

I get the cautious nature, but idk. I feel like something like this could be fairly straight forward.
But idk, might eat my words lol

keen wren
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They have lied to us specifically about shadow before to get you to buy things

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recently too

random portal
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How recently though? The mindset has changed significantly over the past few years

wind sparrow
open maple
keen wren
open maple
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What does this mean? They'll be more included in the Sonic series?

keen wren
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Theres a chao mobile game coming

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Chao mobile game

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It got leaked back with p3r

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A bunch of sega stuff got leaked

open maple
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yeah but she would had specified it is for that game in particular

runic pulsar
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There could be more!

balmy fiber
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Future of Chao huh

gloomy bloom
dire quiver
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||So, they are in the cutscenes for a reason.||

random portal
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2025: The Year of Chao

balmy fiber
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Are they implying something

keen wren
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Chao mobile game =$$$

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Animal crossing and you can raise chao might go crazy

umbral gale
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Chao garden in Shadow Gens?!

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Probably not

balmy fiber
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Anything different

cedar ember
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it looks darker?

lone lantern
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Pretty royal blue sky

umbral gale
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It definitely looks darker

lone lantern
azure trail
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lil more bloom

keen wren
azure trail
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not much to say

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😭

keen wren
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No shadow levels

wind sparrow
gloomy bloom
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all this says to me is that the mobile chao thing ain't the only thing they seem to be planning for Chao

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which is interesting

azure trail
warm ginkgo
lone lantern
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Give me a chao in movie 3, and then we can talk.

azure trail
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I did not saw this

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wtf

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who is that skin for

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classic?

cedar ember
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I doubt he's too tall

lone lantern
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Def modern. I think

azure trail
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damn

lone lantern
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You put on classic Sonic, he’s gonna look like a munchkin

azure trail
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im kinda surprised they finally did this ngl lmao

cedar ember
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and classic sonic has been FORGOTTEN

azure trail
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like

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people were saying how they were never gonna do an old model as skin

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😭

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now look at it

dire quiver
azure trail
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we're in new timeline bros...

cedar ember
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actually

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I hope this means something for customization in general

azure trail
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god wtf are those wings

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holy shit

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whats going on

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are we gonna get a super shadow 2?

random portal
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Black ARMS BAYBEEEE

azure trail
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with wings!?

balmy fiber
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Yea so

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Shadow will literally get crazy black arms powers

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Hes goop

random portal
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Def no Emeralds here cause the Sonics are getting em

dire quiver
azure trail
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I love how they tried to replicate the uekawa shadow art but damn

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the teeth

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😭

random portal
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He’s gonna burn through his Black Arms power and won’t be able to access em after this

lone lantern
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That’s explains why he’s such a fucking dick after this onwards

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Biggest come down of his life.

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Get suped up blackarms genes and you lose em. I’d be pissed to

random portal
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Idk I think he wouldn’t want to have any essence of Black Arms in him since they’re monsters

azure trail
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dude...

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sonic team pulling out all their creativity

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I love to see it

runic pulsar
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black arms shadow form for final boss

azure trail
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thanks frontiers for existing

runic pulsar
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booooooooooooooof

umbral gale
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I’m loving this direction

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Its consistently showing to be not afraid being earnest & cool again

blazing belfry
keen wren
keen wren
balmy fiber
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Wings aside

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What do you guys think of this

azure trail
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DUDE

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THERES NO WAY

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IS HEROES

open maple
blazing belfry
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I hate those damn models

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The face does not look right

ripe cypress
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That fucking rimlight man

dire quiver
azure trail
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Black doom looks like a png lmfao

ripe cypress
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Stickers placed on the screenshot

azure trail
ripe cypress
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The level looks good hmm

dire quiver
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It also has chromatic aborration.

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I believe.

cedar ember
azure trail
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could you imagine shadow is like

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a cinematic experience kfql;fkq

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as in

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all stages are one thing and is all straight 4 hours of pure gameplay and some cutscenes in-between

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nooo

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it got deleted

balmy fiber
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???

azure trail
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there we go

balmy fiber
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Ah yea we saw this

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This looks

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Ugly

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Not a fan of the constant rimlight on shadow

azure trail
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I love it

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but is too strong

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compared to frontiers

open maple
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I like it, contrasts well with the red

azure trail
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looking at the pics

random portal
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He’s glowing blue, I wonder if the morality system of Shadow is in play here

azure trail
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were those chaos always there?

random portal
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Nope

azure trail
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I dont remember seeing angel and devil chao

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lol

random portal
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There were no Chao besides Cheese there originally

azure trail
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oof

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looks cute

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maybe it was cut from the original release and they just decided to put it back

balmy fiber
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Nah

wise turret
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what the fuck (ignore who retweeted it)

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azure trail
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think that is a variant from the one we've seen with red sky

boreal canyon
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oh they were straight up speculating LOL

random portal
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Yeah idk what city stage that is

dire quiver
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I thought it was Radical Highway.

balmy fiber
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Thays westopolis

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Thats the colorscheme of ingame westopolis

ripe cypress
#

Yeah westopolis has the leaning buildings and everything

azure trail
#

midorin sayin something about chao?

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uhh

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what da sigma

steep sequoia
#

Yeah that's 100% westopolis

wind sparrow
azure trail
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aside from that

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man

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he1 has aged so poorly

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😭

boreal canyon
#

Eastopolis

steep sequoia
#

Generations will be our first sonic game where we can finally compare HE1 and HE2 lmao

static elm
#

Nordopolis

azure trail
steep sequoia
#

I mean yeah. Since the original version did used HE1

wind sparrow
azure trail
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why not

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looks cute

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it'd be cool tho

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if shadow has chao garden

ripe cypress
#

Generations with chao garden addition would go so hard

azure trail
#

but not really expecting it

dire quiver
#

Not that person...

azure trail
#

oo

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yikes

blazing belfry
dire quiver
#

But anyway, I believe they have something important for the Chao.

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Midori has said to look for their future.

wind frigate
azure trail
#

unrelated but man

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I love sam's reaction to the first trailer 😭

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bro had way more hype than hype guy himself

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aside from that

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Im so happy we getting a sa1 skin

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funny thing is that a friend was talking me about how they were afraid of putting an old model skin like what they did for odyssey with 64 mario

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fkwelf;ew

dire quiver
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It makes sense they would put in Generations.

balmy fiber
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Sa1 sonic is peak im never removing that skin

azure trail
#

hopefully tho

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sonic is playable in shadow campaign

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like shadow in forces with some modern stages

balmy fiber
#

I have a feeling it will be vice versa

azure trail
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🤞

dire quiver
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We need skins for Shadow, though.

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I hope there are.

balmy fiber
#

Sa2 shadow skin

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PLEASE

azure trail
#

that'd be great

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hopefully they do have skins for shadow

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but it seems only sonic is getting one

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as of now ofc

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it can be like the soap shoes in frontiers

balmy fiber
#

I wonder if the skin will have custome animations

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Probably not

azure trail
#

hopefully

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we might be lucky to see it in the demo

torn scarab
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Like he glows blue with the more good paths you take, but gains a reddish black aura each time you do a bad deed

vestal sage
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Comparison of all three versions. (360/PS3/SxS)

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open maple
balmy fiber
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Oh

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I see the difference

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BALLOONS ARE NOW SHINIER

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And different colors

open maple
#

a few trees were altered and is less blurry

wise turret
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altho if the pre-rendered cutscenes are still gonna be pre-rendered, then god

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Sonic Team, you can render the cutscenes in-engine you know

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please

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Please don’t pull a Forces Chaos with making the new Chao be stuck in a pre-rendered cutscene and nowhere else

wind sparrow
gloomy bloom
open maple
steep sequoia
#

Png Doom

vestal sage
wind sparrow
#

More

gloomy bloom
wind sparrow
vestal sage
wind sparrow
steep sequoia
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He looks so good too!

static elm
steep sequoia
#

Also am I the only one who immediately thought they put the soap shoes? lmao

wind sparrow
gloomy bloom
#

honestly those fully upgraded shoes he's got in SA1 are neat

static elm
#

Be fr

gloomy bloom
#

gets the vibes juuuuuuuust right

steep sequoia
#

nah I don't care this isn't 1:1, this is a fantastic transitiion

wind sparrow
#

What skin would they give Classic Sonic 💀

static elm
steep sequoia
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Manages to be it's own thing while keeping the old model

gloomy bloom
steep sequoia
#

Also yeah literally this LMAo

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PLEASE!

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SATURN SONIC!

wind frigate
gloomy bloom
#

either that or the long lost Mars Sonic...

gloomy bloom
static elm
#

And again

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So fucking what

gloomy bloom
#

honestly prefer them trying to recreate it then to outright just port it

steep sequoia
#

Exactly

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This is a perfect transition

balmy fiber
#

It looks lovely anyways

static elm
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"Womp womp it doesn't have the exact same shoes" please give me a break nobody cares

gloomy bloom
#

basically just means SA1 model got a new model and that makes me happy and giddy bingus_flower

balmy fiber
#

Fr

umbral gale
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Don’t even compare the retro Crash skin

balmy fiber
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They should use this one for a better sa1 remaster

static elm
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Be glad they didn't use the sa1dx model (i prefer it)

umbral gale
#

Doesn't even look the same

steep sequoia
#

Isn't that the point?

gloomy bloom
gloomy bloom
#

gimme angry eyed shadow

balmy fiber
#

Sa2 shadow model...

steep sequoia
#

SA2 still has peak Shadow model

open maple
umbral gale
#

But not

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Based on the trilogy

steep sequoia
#

No I mean like managing to be it's own thing while keeping the nostalgia of the model

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Essentially like with Mario 64's and SA1's

umbral gale
#

Yeah

open maple
#

they nailed that energy if people could buy it is the sa1's dc model

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like perfectly

umbral gale
#

I'm just saying that Crash is a bigger example of that

#

But yeah, it's just nice to have a retro skin

#

Took that blue rat long enough compared to others

static elm
warm basin
static elm
#

The proportions are a bit off imo

warm basin
#

So I don't see the problem

static elm
#

Ohhhh i think i get it hold up

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The soap shoes ain't it

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Sorry gang

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They look too big

gloomy bloom
warm basin
#

Also does that mean we also gonna get skins for classic and shadow

static elm
warm basin
#

What skins do you even make for classic

steep sequoia
#

Saturn Sonic

warm basin
#

Well maybe sprite but that's all I can think about

static elm
warm basin
#

Also because of this new wings I think they are gonna be parts in levels when you need to fly avoiding the obstacles

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Or maybe he gonna use them in battle

umbral gale
#

How about both 👀

wise turret
#

Shadow being a mix of Vegeta and fuckin VENOM was not on my Sonadow Generations bingo card

ripe cypress
vale raft
#

wow

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just woke up

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in shock

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this kinda spoiled the surprise though bigsad

ripe cypress
#

Oh my god

#

Forshadowing

fierce epoch
#

Can we talk bout the leaks here

ripe cypress
#

Ye

vale raft
steep sequoia
#

I hope they cook with gerald's journey blobpensivepray

open maple
#

the ancients being connected to chaos was his idea

#

so expanding upon that would be great

#

like imagine if Gerald found out about the ancients

steep sequoia
#

And makes me happy because Chaos has such a very interesting origin

open maple
#

Yeah, it retroactively made Chaos be more interesting

gloomy bloom
#

the whole wing thing has been so cool af

open maple
#

very overwhelming but so 2000's in a great way for me

gloomy bloom
#

Shadow using Black Arms powers, just so right

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really cool to see this exploring such a thing

open maple
#

if they pull something like this with Blaze

#

please let her use Iblis

#

she canonically still has it sealed in her according to Ian

steep sequoia
#

Exactly!

#

Like this is something they can utilize more than just chaos emeralds

#

Which each chars actually unleashing their full potential

open maple
#

yeah, it would allow them to be much more unique.

#

and develop something of them in the process

static elm
#

I don't need sxsg

open maple
#

Frontiers was one of the best showcases of Sonic's nature

sxsg will be an exploration and study of Shadow

Blaze can have an internal study and new development

steep sequoia
#

And Shadow need this SO much because I always say my biggest issue with him is that he always plays exactly like Sonic

#

This is their moment to actually change that and they already shown that

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That alone makes me very happy

warm basin
static elm
#

Kinda crazy that the news dropped when basically everyone was here

open maple
warm basin
open maple
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but expanded

steep sequoia
#

Exactly

open maple
#

a full mode of fire that only Iblis can provide

steep sequoia
#

BRO I just realize. Knuckles utilizing the power of the master emerald!

#

And he is the guardian of it realshit

gloomy bloom
wind frigate
#

guys is something wrong with the subsurface scattering here

vale raft
#

i do not heroes

balmy fiber
#

You should heroes

vale raft
#

not bad not bad

ripe cypress
#

This means… omega…

balmy fiber
open maple
#

If it will be remixed

#

please mix rail canyon and bullet station

#

akin to what act 2 of seaside hill does

tardy pivot
#

there sure are a lot of rails in these screenshots huh

steep sequoia
#

Yeah I'll be surprised no sign of Omega honestly

open maple
ripe cypress
#

Hmmm

open maple
#

So it having rails as the main thing of the level makes sense

tardy pivot
#

sorry I meant in all the screenshots not just in this level

ripe cypress
#

hm

azure trail
#

ok so

#

gens is gonna be 50 bucks?

steep sequoia
#

yep

azure trail
#

how do u guys feel about it

#

I mean is the same price as it was back then

gloomy bloom
glacial cliff
#

Heroes stages

#

Damn

open maple
glacial cliff
#

I'm concerned that 2 screenshots have him on grind rails

wind frigate
# glacial cliff Damn

tobe!! i remember you not being a fan of the mural theory

what do you think of it potentially becoming true sage_fumo

azure trail
#

one is rail canyon

#

sooo

glacial cliff
#

I was never not a fan feelthegenuinespeed

#

Lol

azure trail
#

the other seem to be radical highway

wind frigate
#

hmmmm

azure trail
#

as always

wind frigate
#

who was it then

#

I remember you were in that conversation

glacial cliff
#

I have no feelings towards it aside from it being a retroactive thing

dire quiver
wind frigate
glacial cliff
#

I do think having some sort deeper connection between Sonic and Shadow is cool regardless of what it is

#

This or something else

dire quiver
#

But then that would mean we would see these funky trains again.

#

There is a lot of cool stuff that Rail Canyon and Bullet Station contain.

azure trail
#

I said it

steep sequoia
#

So far we haven't seen any 06 stages yet

azure trail
#

pipipi

steep sequoia
#

Since that's also another game Shadow has major involvement with

balmy fiber
#

Thats Not radical highway

#

This is westopolis

steep sequoia
#

Also yeah that's Westopolis, not Radical Highway

azure trail
#

wait a minute

#

rail canyon

#

omh

balmy fiber
#

Same color scheme

fierce epoch
steep sequoia
#

The aesthetics are nowhere even close to Radical Highway

azure trail
#

heroes remake assets

open maple
fierce epoch
#

Is this subsurface scattering issues or?

IMG_2155.jpg
steep sequoia
#

ngl Shadow looks a bit off with that lighting

balmy fiber
#

Yea i kinda hate it

#

It looks ugly

azure trail
#

I dig it

balmy fiber
#

His model is already pretty gross

#

Like i hope they got him mid blinking

#

Cuz istg if they didnt fix the issue of him having 1% of his eyelids

vale raft
#

all the shadow gens shots look kinda ugly lol

azure trail
#

🚶

vale raft
#

or is that just me

#

i really wanna see this in motion

balmy fiber
glacial cliff
#

Who tf is mystery lupen

balmy fiber
#

The trailer looked nice

azure trail
#

some were saying that it could be switch but

#

no idea

balmy fiber
#

But these screenshots are ugly

#

Too HD texture for switch

dire quiver
glacial cliff
#

Grind rails

dire quiver
#

These trains are scary.

glacial cliff
warm basin
balmy fiber
#

Yeah but its not red

fierce epoch
#

Fair point

IMG_2156.png
balmy fiber
#

Its westopolis

fierce epoch
#

It has diff lighting then the regular west stages

#

But we’ll see

ripe cypress
balmy fiber
#

Westopolis has the red color scheme on promo material (along with the helicopter spot)

warm basin
balmy fiber
#

And Westopolis has this drab look in game

#

Maybe

warm basin
balmy fiber
#

Anyways graphics are not really my priority on this 25 dollar game (other 25 being gens)

warm basin
#

But I think it's switch screenshots

tardy pivot
#

We still don't really know enough to know for sure

balmy fiber
#

Its not

ripe cypress
balmy fiber
#

Look at the textures on the left

#

They are too high quality

glacial cliff
#

So

balmy fiber
#

The wood is too hd

tardy pivot
#

like gens seems to be the same but surely they're adding something right?

dire quiver
#

There is a worry that I have with Rail Canyon being brought into this game...
I don't quite know if controlling Shadow on rails will feel good.

tardy pivot
#

whether it's playable shadow or some quality of life features

warm basin
glacial cliff
#

Final Chase
Radical Highway looking City
Rail Canyon

Potentially:
Speed Highway looking City
Hang Castle/Mystic Mansion

dire quiver
#

If it's at the same levels of Forces/Frontiers rail grinding, I'm not too keen about it.

glacial cliff
#

Yeah

balmy fiber
#

It might be

glacial cliff
#

Kinda worrying

balmy fiber
#

Im defintely ready the game will be a lot of rails

warm basin
balmy fiber
#

And they will be just like frontiers

vale raft
balmy fiber
#

Sky rail cyberspace

#

Well if the wing shadow is hang castle

vale raft
#

or maybe we're overreacting

#

final chase didn't have much from what we saw

#

just that opening bit

balmy fiber
#

Honestly to me

#

... hmm

wicked urchinBOT
balmy fiber
#

This could just be a flashy transformation

ripe cypress
#

Rails have been eh since forever in modern Sonic why are we acting like it’s a new thing

balmy fiber
#

Yea lmao

#

Expected

#

Ill say they are better in frontiers than in gens anyways

dire quiver
#

They were nice and okay in some of the modern games.

warm basin
# balmy fiber

Okay I noticed that moon in this screenshot has some cracks or something like that

balmy fiber
#

I dont see it, frontiers has the best out of the modern games

ripe cypress
#

Ig gens was very lenient with the use

warm basin
#

It's probably hang castle

balmy fiber
#

It has rail launch

ripe cypress
#

Speed highway rails were fun

open maple
#

Hang castle in HD will be fun

balmy fiber
#

Im not sure if its hang castle or not

ripe cypress
#

Sky sanctuary had the rail you needed to launch off of

tardy pivot
#

Lost world's rail system was somewhat interesting

balmy fiber
#

Is the moon that scuffed looking

wind frigate
warm basin
#

Yea it's probably them

dire quiver
#

Frontiers had nice rail grinding to an extent, but it still suffers from many issues.

balmy fiber
#

I just think the moon is just a transformations scene

dire quiver
#

The problem is that we are going to have a stage where the gimmick is supposed to be rails everywhere, essentially.

balmy fiber
#

Yea ee already had that in frontiers

steep sequoia
#

Yeah Rail Canyon is essentially that 💀

dire quiver
#

1 Cyberspace level.

#

And... it is one of the worst ones.

steep sequoia
#

But I never was a fond of rail canyon anyways so not looking forward to it

balmy fiber
#

Sky Rail one of the worst ones?

#

Oook thats a take

#

Not necessarily hot ig

steep sequoia
#

Sky Rail.... exist

#

That's about it honestly

#

Very fun to skip at least

random portal
#

Sky Rail already got rep in Frontiers anyway

balmy fiber
#

Thats what i mean soni

#

Thats the sky rail im talking about

random portal
#

Damn guess its not easy being sky railed

open maple
#

sky rail is fun

#

specially knowing how to skip with the rails

random portal
#

its a fun level to do shortcuts for sure

dire quiver
balmy fiber
#

Also i feel we are maybe overanalyzing these screenshots

random portal
#

thats the purely rails one is windmil isle act 3

balmy fiber
#

Even rail canyon had a ton of platforming and stuff

dire quiver
#

Yes.

#

It's a very bad stage with how Sonic controls on rails (not to mention it's also 2D physics).

#

And there are a few other Cyberspace stages that use a lot of rails, but they're nothing special.

balmy fiber
#

I will say that the big 4-3 one is very cool

tardy pivot
#

how did we feel about the dk ripoff-I mean LW rail levels

sonic-lost-world--tropical-coast-zone-3-gamescom.jpg
balmy fiber
#

Theyre ok

dire quiver
#

Issues with rail grinding are very prominent in Frontiers, the way Sonic controls and gains speed grinding is very awkward in general, and some very weird things can happen. Sometimes switching between rails using the analog stick will make Sonic meet his demise.

open maple
#

(out of jokes, I cannot talk about them cause I never played SLW Wii u)

tardy pivot
#

they had the same maintaining of momentum frontiers had, plus the slowdown/speedup rails which aren't a huge deal but those plus more obstacles than just spikes make it a little more interesting

dire quiver
#

So if it hypothetically were to be just like Frontiers, I would personally be disappointed.

warm basin
dire quiver
#

Or like Forces.

warm basin
#

It's also have big platforming sections

tardy pivot
#

there's gotta be some kinda change here with rail grinding, surely

dire quiver
tardy pivot
#

if they're this seemingly prominent

dire quiver
#

I don't know how that would work with modern grinding at all.

random portal
#

I love railing in Lost World

tardy pivot
#

I dunno. If yall could overhaul the system in some way how would you do it

dire quiver
#

I don't quite know, it's not even like Heroes had it right.

#

Rail grinding in that game was sure something.

#

I want to hope it doesn't feel the same when revisiting the stage after a long time.

#

I'll wait for the trailer tomorrow because now I can't discuss much else.

balmy fiber
#

Ok so

#

What if its hang castle

#

Does that mean we are getting 2 heroes stages

#

And possibly 2 stages for each game

dire quiver
#

I would be really surprised by the fact Heroes could get 2 stages in a game focused on Shadow.

balmy fiber
#

Thinking this

2 sa2 levels
2 heroes levels
2 shadow levels
2 06 levels

8 levels?

dire quiver
#

How many levels do we know so far?

tardy pivot
#

do you think they would actually pull from forces

balmy fiber
#

I hope so

#

I hope they do somethi g where shadow gens has a weird time loop thing

azure trail
balmy fiber
#

And shadow goes to forces

ripe cypress
#

Oh my god that's why he was missing for 6 months

#

jk

balmy fiber
#

S

dire quiver
#

It's just Final Chase and Rail Canyon that are 100% confirmed, is that correct?

balmy fiber
#

dont

#

Yea and the city

tardy pivot
#

westopolis too right?

balmy fiber
#

Thats westopolis

#

So

open maple
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balmy fiber
#

Sa2 - final chase
Shadow - westopolis
Heroes - rail canyon

dire quiver
#

Yea, so 3 confirmed stages.

tardy pivot
#

bosses wise we got the biolizard

dire quiver
#

Possibly 4 if the Hang Castle theory is right.

ripe cypress
#

Imagine we get the Egg Hawk

dire quiver
#

Why the Egg Hawk?

ripe cypress