#Sonic Superstars (spoilers)

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hoary trench
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Gaming in general

tribal badger
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like meeee

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yay

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i love living in Australia

modern pebble
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yeah you love living with the spider+s

hoary trench
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Charging this much is not worth it no matter how incredible the game is

tribal badger
modern pebble
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ok sorry

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wait

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@agile lotus is this how much you paid 💀

tribal badger
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i might live with the spider+ but you guys live with burger+

modern pebble
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if so, im actually shocked you aren't more harsh on these games

tribal badger
modern pebble
tribal badger
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it’s joever for freeze and i

modern pebble
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i purchased a copy of the game for Dakiii for $52 on Fanatical

hoary trench
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I got this game for just €54

tribal badger
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ooft

modern pebble
viral tinsel
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No game is worth more than $70 imo

tribal badger
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i’m gonna kill y’all

modern pebble
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oooh the deal is still there

tribal badger
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gimme your prices oml

modern pebble
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looks like this is only a USA deal tho

modern pebble
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hold on

balmy cipher
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you can't be serious

viral tinsel
balmy cipher
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The sale is still on?

tribal badger
agile lotus
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@tribal badger we're swarming through sega headquarters and stealing their money

tribal badger
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gonna cry

modern pebble
tribal badger
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YES

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I WILL COME WITH YOU LETS GO

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😭😭😭

modern pebble
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i can't change the setting to australia because of my ip

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i cant be bothered to turn on vpn

agile lotus
tribal badger
modern pebble
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what are the prices there

tribal badger
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$82.60

balmy cipher
modern pebble
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DAMN

tribal badger
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FUCK Y’ALL

modern pebble
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well hey

agile lotus
tribal badger
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GIVE US THOSE PRICES

modern pebble
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at least y'all getting some deals at least...

hoary trench
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LMAO

modern pebble
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"deals"

balmy cipher
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so uh David...
about that Supersharts code...

tribal badger
modern pebble
balmy cipher
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girl I am so sorry for your loss

modern pebble
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Okay that checks out

tribal badger
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actually gonna cry

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i am not spending that amount on supershit

modern pebble
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So technically, if we ignore the fact that australia is price hiked in general, you save as much money on it as we do in the states

tribal badger
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i’d rather parsec it with someone else

knotty shoal
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Sup

modern pebble
balmy cipher
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don't like what this implies

tribal badger
modern pebble
tribal badger
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when do u wanna play

modern pebble
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change to KWD NOW

balmy cipher
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VJAFGDBDAGFJGAFJF

modern pebble
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is that

balmy cipher
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CHEAPER THAN FRONTIERS ON STEAM?!?!?!

modern pebble
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16 thousand

knotty shoal
tribal badger
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WHAT IN THE FUCK IS THIS

knotty shoal
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When I get home

modern pebble
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or 16 kw dollars

tribal badger
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that’s fine !!

balmy cipher
modern pebble
tribal badger
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LOL

modern pebble
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i have no plans to play superstars tonight 💀

balmy cipher
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the 137 part is the fils

tribal badger
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syn u better not be lying

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you mf

modern pebble
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how does it work

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actually i can just look it up

balmy cipher
knotty shoal
tribal badger
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YAY CAN WE ??!!

modern pebble
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oh wtf

balmy cipher
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but it's in 3 digits usually

modern pebble
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u guys have a more valuable currency than us

knotty shoal
tribal badger
tribal badger
knotty shoal
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Now that my parsec is no longer a hood rat I can play with you guys

balmy cipher
tribal badger
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@modern pebble your ass better be ready

modern pebble
tribal badger
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wait

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you’re playing

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on your switch ?!?

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oh wait no

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u are connecting the controllers ?

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idk

modern pebble
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what i meant was

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my switch controller is already plugged in

balmy cipher
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Decided to check Frontiers' prices here and--
THEY INCREASED THAT SHIT?!?!?!?

modern pebble
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take that however u want

balmy cipher
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HDUIWHUIDHSUKAHDUK

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IT USED TO BE CHEAPER HERE

modern pebble
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no way lmfao

balmy cipher
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HOW DID IT GET MORE PRICER

modern pebble
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maybe it was on sale before

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i just

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honestly

balmy cipher
modern pebble
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digital pricing is a scam overall

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why am i paying the same amt of money for a digital copy as a physical copy

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i am ltierally

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paying the same amount

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to get less

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with the game

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its just a fuckign file on a server

balmy cipher
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THIS SHIT WAS 17 KWD PRIOR TO THIS

modern pebble
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why does that same file have to cost differently overseas like WHAT

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"import tax" ITS A DIGITAL GOOD WDYM??????

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IT'S NOT LIKE IT HAS TO BE MAILED

tribal badger
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FR

modern pebble
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OR EVEN PACKAGED

tribal badger
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💀

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gonna lose it

balmy cipher
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they changed the price from 17 KWD to 21 KWD for the standard edition LAST WEEK?!?!?!

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WHAT

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I

tribal badger
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the AUD to USD comparison is getting worse

balmy cipher
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HUH

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BUH

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DHUIFHUAHFUHSK

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SEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

modern pebble
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or is the value of the AUD decreasing

tribal badger
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idk

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all i know is that

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AUD is getting higher

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when having to pay for things in USD

modern pebble
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yo what the fuck hold on

tribal badger
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SYN

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😭

knotty shoal
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Heyyy

balmy cipher
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nah fuck you SEGA

knotty shoal
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U rigjt

tribal badger
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😭💀

balmy cipher
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why increase the price of Frontiers to be higher than what it was at launch

agile lotus
modern pebble
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on oct 10, 1 AUD was worth 0.64 USD
and then as of today in Australia it's now worth 0.63 USD

balmy cipher
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how

modern pebble
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how does that happen on a day-to-day basis

balmy cipher
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shit was 17/19 KWD and now it became 21/24 KWD

knotty shoal
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Maybe I should

balmy cipher
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like piss offfffff

tribal badger
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draining my bank account

honest patio
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You know what I just realized

tribal badger
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idk

honest patio
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I don’t even know what the plot of this game is

tribal badger
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honestly they’d calm people down a lot

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😭

knotty shoal
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Tbh I don’t even remember how many times I’ve taken an edible

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Maybe three

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But like

faint garden
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After playing the ifnal boss of this and replaying Update 3

modern pebble
faint garden
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yeah The End is such a better fight it's laughable

modern pebble
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just take CBD

knotty shoal
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My third time I took too much and then I ended up having to skip school

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And my mom laughed at me

modern pebble
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weed is not the answer to anxiety, for most people cbd is more than enough

faint garden
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I once got absurdly high during work and had to fuckin

knotty shoal
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No it’s not for anxiety

faint garden
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soldier through it

knotty shoal
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People just do that shit for the fucks of it

knotty shoal
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And smelling like it

agile lotus
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im on my 40 hour per day mewing session

knotty shoal
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What

modern pebble
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??

knotty shoal
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Wait

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40 HOURS PER DAY

modern pebble
knotty shoal
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Ivy is trying to tame me and I don’t like that

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Im doing crack to spite her

modern pebble
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@tribal badger this is your fault

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stop ruining my bf

agile lotus
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I'm going on a boxing match with Ivy rn

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November 13th Super Smash Flash 2 @tribal badger be there or be square

knotty shoal
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💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

agile lotus
modern pebble
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i think its really funny that you challenged her to that but not me

agile lotus
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live in tails channel voice-call

modern pebble
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dude

agile lotus
modern pebble
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set the game up right now

balmy cipher
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I just noticed Syn's name

agile lotus
balmy cipher
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what did he mean by "Trip's Helmet"?

agile lotus
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oh i wish i was trip's helmet

knotty shoal
agile lotus
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so i can suffocate trip

leaden hemlock
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Progress is… steady. But the asterisks plaguing my page here are certainly on my nerves. Sigh-

knotty shoal
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Bites the page

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Ooooo take that

balmy cipher
modern pebble
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that's all there is to it

balmy cipher
zealous spindle
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right okay so
this is gonna drive me nuts

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remember the other day where I said this game has an originality problem, how it feels like they're simply playing the hits again

modern pebble
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no but go on

zealous spindle
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so, was doing frozen base again and got to the eggmobile part, with the neat detail of every character's eggmobile being from their source game

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very neat lil nod to em all, quite like that

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but I also realised

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hang on

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every game he's got a new eggmobile

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....he doesn't in this one

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he's just using the Sonic 1 one again

modern pebble
leaden hemlock
modern pebble
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oh

zealous spindle
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went back to check Mania too in case it was a carryover from there, but nope!

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he's got a brand new one there too

modern pebble
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never noticed that it was that detailed

zealous spindle
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like I know, its small on the grand scale of things but like

modern pebble
zealous spindle
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its at least something, though!!

modern pebble
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i suppose

zealous spindle
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especially compared to Superstars which is just

nowt changes

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lends to that feel of em simply replaying the hits again, it's a "new" game but at the same time it feels too stuck in the shadow of the past to be properly "new"

modern pebble
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i need to replay ASAP ‼️

zealous spindle
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like, not in a base level "oh its classic sonic" way, a "is there a push to move the bar forwards or simply to do the old again" way

modern pebble
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someone here did say that superstars feels like a new sonic 1

zealous spindle
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we've got em to realise doing old zones again is bad, but is doing new zones that are just like the old ones but a bit different that much better lol

leaden hemlock
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OH-

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WAIT JANE

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I think that Egg Mobile does show up!

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Hold on-

modern pebble
zealous spindle
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mania had the baggage of "two thirds of this game is old zones okay bye", but the original zones in there at least felt new - they'd never done a printing press/snowy japanese garden, they'd never done a movie studio zone, etc

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here we've got, what
another desert

leaden hemlock
modern pebble
leaden hemlock
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It is in Superstars.

modern pebble
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beachy level

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a temple in the sky

modern pebble
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tidal tempest

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carnival night + casino night

zealous spindle
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the GHZ-a-like I'll give a pass since it's series tradition to rehash it lol, but all the others - the sky temple especially, they wanted to be sky sanctuary bad huh

modern pebble
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sonic 1 special stage

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sonic 1 concept art (and the level sucks)

zealous spindle
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put all those original thinking muscles into Trip (and it shows cos she's great)

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(except her super form which I guarantee will lock her out of being playable in many future games)

knotty shoal
zealous spindle
knotty shoal
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Hey Jane I have a funny video

leaden hemlock
# leaden hemlock It is in Superstars.

Oh, nevermind, my eyes were deceiving me. I thought it was there amongst the Egg Mobiles parked in Egg Fortress, but it was just the CD Egg Mobile I saw.

viral tinsel
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I feel that's less of superstars fault and more so how much you can use a certain theme before it begins to feel stale. In this era specially, originality can be a very hard thing to achieve

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Like if we wish for things to be 100% original, that may be a truth challenge to achieve

hoary trench
viral tinsel
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like let's put an example

we have lagoon city which is an hydrocity again except we also had aquatic ruins and labyrynth as ruins with water levels

hoary trench
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Most of their zones reminds me of past themes from classic Sonic or even the Adventure games

tribal badger
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Games nowadays have to use repeated themes. You just have to be very creative over it

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Superstars overall did a good job on it

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Only one I’ll say looks very bad is sand sanctuary

hoary trench
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I agree on that one

zealous spindle
viral tinsel
zealous spindle
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with the right fresh blood they could absolutely get in more original stuff!! it is possible!!

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they just
didn't

viral tinsel
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it had more cowboy ish elements but it was a desert

tribal badger
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Press garden is the only one I’ll say is unique

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Theme wise of course

hoary trench
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Okay, but I don’t think Mania would’ve kept this lust if they went for originality from the start to finish with 12 zones

zealous spindle
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if you want just desert superstars gotcha covered lol

viral tinsel
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I mean, if we go strictly speaking mirage saloon act 1 was just a sky chase act

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it was act 2 what could fully commit to that, and the knuckles act

viral tinsel
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for a small bit before you face the boss again at the tornado

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most of that act is a sky chase

zealous spindle
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still don't see the point you're going for with this lol, not sure how them doing a mini-sky chase segment invalidates the rest of the new stuff going on in it

knotty shoal
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Gotta defend mid

zealous spindle
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that's the crux of it all, you can do old stuff and revisit old ideas, for sure!! but there's a point where if you're doing more old than new, something's going amiss - and superstars edges too close to that for my liking

viral tinsel
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Not defending superstars, just I say that in these times, getting for something 100% original would be a pain in the butt

Like even with mario wonder, a game that looks like it's a reinvention of 2d mario, still has it's grass, desert, lava, etc themes for it's stages

hoary trench
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I personally just don’t see it differently than other classic Sonic games. Call me blind for that

viral tinsel
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and it isn't like the developers were 'lazy ' for that.

hoary trench
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But classic Sonic never really amazed me with crazy themes and ones they do feel like exceptions

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I feel like only modern Sonic when it was mostly originality before Generations everything exceeded at that way more than classic Sonic

tribal badger
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Again it’s not easy to expect the entire game with unique themes

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Especially nowadays

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At best your getting like 1 or 2

zealous spindle
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again, I'm not asking for them to never revisit a level theme again, that's unrealistic talk - but for a new game with "new zones" I'd at least expect a lot more than what we got to be properly new, yeah? especially since like, £55 worth of game

hoary trench
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I get where you are coming

zealous spindle
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think it's a degree too of like, mania being mostly new blood to the series and superstars being... very much not, led by the old guard instead

boreal mirage
zealous spindle
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always believe series should get new folks in every now and then with new visions to shake things up, like how Odyssey did for 3D Mario and Wonder's doing for 2D

hoary trench
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Outside of Ohshima & Iizuka. I’m pretty sure this game is made mostly by Arzest

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I doubt that studio has much of the people who worked on older Sonic games

boreal mirage
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Got bad news for you....

hoary trench
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Ohshima doesn’t even direct this game

hoary trench
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and then compare it to others who never worked on a Sonic game without Arzest who are credited

boreal mirage
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Takashi Iizuka

zealous spindle
boreal mirage
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Maybe Moby games can answer

honest patio
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I’m gonna be honest

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Sand Sanctuary literally just looks like Desert Ruins from LW to me

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I do not care for it aesthetically

hoary trench
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I’m sorry, but this just sounds like when Back 4 Blood claimed that it was made by the creators of Left 4 Dead, but when you actually look up. Its only 2 people who worked on Left 4 Dead and the rest are just new blood

boreal mirage
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No???

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I disagree with you freeze TE_HUH

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Wait

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FIZ

hoary trench
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I wouldn’t be surprised if its the same situation with Sonic Superstars

boreal mirage
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Mb fiz 😭

hoary trench
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So in reality

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The new blood just has no creative juice

viral tinsel
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Sand Sanctuary could look better, yeah

viral tinsel
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I do like it's level design though, very fun with the snake theme around it

hoary trench
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I’m not gonna lie

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That sounds like a Freeze statement

last bay
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Sonic Lost SUperstars

boreal mirage
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MY KEYBOARD

zealous spindle
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sand sanctuary don't even look like any kinda sanctuary smh

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this is NOT what Hikaru Utada sang about in KH2‼️

noble drift
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Yea she sang about gay boys

zealous spindle
agile pawn
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Frontiers and Superstars are good games but they 100% shouldn't be the equivalent of 100 dollars in other territories, that's too much for one or two games

leaden hemlock
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Screw these guys btw. The day I learn their name is when I finally get to curse it out nine times over

hoary trench
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Interesting thread

leaden hemlock
# viral tinsel Little goofballs

They made Golden Capital unbearable for me. And I love the Badniks too (and don’t get me wrong here, I love them, but screw them. Love them, but screw them)

viral tinsel
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They were annoying there but I didn't find Golden Capital to be bad by any means. It was a fun level

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it was Las Vegas if it was in a Latin American culture

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¡El dorado!

leaden hemlock
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Oh, and those little bee guys from Golden Capital too

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I want to learn their names

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but screw them

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screw all the Golden Capital Badniks that weren’t the Aquis variant, the Slicers, and that one Manta Ray looking one towards the end of the stage. Thanks for being not the bane of my existence.

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the Uni Unis… ehhhh

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OH AND TO HELL WITH THE EGGROBOS, HOLY CRAP

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They’re more viscious than in Frontiers!

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I like these robots, no one can possibly tell annoy

viral tinsel
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They're more vicious than in any game beforehand

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they went for the kill in this one!

long orbit
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so I've reached Press Factory 2 and probably gonna get back to that another time

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I'll say, damn Sand Sanctuary s'nice sounding - level was aright, aesthetically it was just sand with snake.

modest arch
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yeah

long orbit
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also tried getting the Green Emerald and it is a pure piece of shit

modest arch
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minus the music the level is really underwhelming lol

viral tinsel
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press factory act 2 is very fun imo

modest arch
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yeah

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especially if you make it a race against the clock for yourself

viral tinsel
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Mhm. It's probably the best implementation out of that sort of mechanic

long orbit
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I thought the robot monkey boss for PF1 looked pretty cool, played like a worse version of the final boss of Sonic 1 tho'

modest arch
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on a first playthrough it's just internal screaming of "where's the button where's the button"

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while the level explodes

viral tinsel
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lmao

viral tinsel
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Yeah. The level goes stupid when the counter is close to 0

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It adds a certain tension to the race

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it truly feels like time is running out

long orbit
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Press Factory Act 1's gimmick with the giant hydraulic press (ah) was interesting, noticed it played with it even with having you purposely shoved to higher paths if you don't time your jumps in time which I thought was an interesting idea - though playing it reminded me of Metropolis Zone kinda, but was still less painful than that.

viral tinsel
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Yeah. It is an interesting gimmick

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Part of the level is taking advantage of that

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on knowing when to use it

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and when to avoid it

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giving it a certain depth

long orbit
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of course the lower paths hid a fruit in the end vectorRunners

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wonder if I missed a special ring now I think about it

viral tinsel
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I found some across my path

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like 1 or 2

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there are some to find

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and very close to eachother actually

long orbit
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also realized I accidentally didn't play the Sonic Act of SJ so I returned to that - was not very fun ngl 😭

viral tinsel
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frozen base act 1 was also very fun

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the changing paths allowed for very good ways to take advantage of the terrain

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and I particularily like sky temple a lot

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it's very big, perfect for exploring

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I always feel like I find something new

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also the build up to the boss fight is honestly very nice. I like it takes some cues from crisis city of generations

long orbit
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oh yeah the tornado part
yeah it was neat, though on one hand I felt that part was done better in Gens, but it's neat how it foreshadows the boss

viral tinsel
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It is more a set piece here than an active threat of the level, it works for both levels I'd say

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in crisis city, it is used to showcase the chaos done by Iblis

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while here it is used to foreshadow the danger within, in it's very eye

long orbit
viral tinsel
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They caught me there the first time

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I didn't know shit when I played generations and when I got there, the building was sent away and I was flabbergasted

long orbit
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Gens honestly did some really cool things with the returning levels, the Act 1s of the game don't get enough credit

viral tinsel
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yeah. It did for the most part

long orbit
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the GUN truck in CE, some of Seaside Hill being half a water level with the giant stone wheels coming in later, Crisis City..

viral tinsel
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Planet wisp is the weaker one but again, Planet wisp just sucks in gens

long orbit
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some of Rooftop Run giving a nod to the Night time version with the area with the barrels etc

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it's real neat

viral tinsel
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Real neat stuff, I agree

long orbit
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if there's a next time after Superstars, I do hope they take advantage of the 2.5D element more like Gens did

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those really added something which I think feels like it's missing

viral tinsel
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Fair

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My Ranking of classic sonic special stages:

  • Sonic 3 & Knuckles
  • Superstars
  • Mania
  • 2
  • 1

Mania and Superstars are even for me

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Merely based on how much fun I got out of them

long orbit
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the special stages in Superstars are pretty wacky, but I'll take them easily over yet another halfpipe variation - the swinging is pretty fun.
but Mania's are def cooler, the Saturn low-poly look and racing is almost like a Special Stage version of R.

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actually thinking about it, my first ever impresssion of a lot of Special Stages while playing the Classics were definitely almost of confusion since they were so different, so honestly it fits pretty nicely with that

viral tinsel
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Mhm.

I specially think the superstars one shines a lot in co-op

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coordinating with your friends makes them super fun

leaden hemlock
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Well, can’t say I asked around and tried. There’s always another day.

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Lol, my impatience really shows all for a bunch of video game robots fr /hj

viral tinsel
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it's cool, we will figure it out eventually

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Just now

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we got stopped by an Egg robo

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:p

leaden hemlock
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You guys didn’t talk about the files here in this chat, have you?

viral tinsel
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it was brought up here, yeah

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there is a holiday costume planned for sonic

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and some beta names of stages

leaden hemlock
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Yeah, from that one tweet thread

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But I mean if they were ever brought up here in the chat by any members

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like, raw screenshots and such

modest arch
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can't wait to fight 2 more bad fang bosses in trip's story 😊

viral tinsel
modest arch
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the cyber station boss made me so stressed

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i'm using tails next time

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i want mario wonder.....

shy turtle
rapid shuttle
unique wedge
honest patio
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Nice

zealous spindle
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first time drawing a Fang, kinda wonky but I tried AmySmile

modest arch
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is there a quick reset button combo like mania?

unique wedge
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Holding Y/Triangle for controllers

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It re-starts after around 1 second of holding it

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I only know this because of one friend when we were trying Time Attack for the first time, lul

unique wedge
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I was able to get a run with more efficient inputs and a slightly better route, that gets me at technically top 10 if you don't count the top 5 runs not being legitimate

tribal badger
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And that's last story done

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Overall tho?
Main story: 8/10
Trip's story: 6/10
Last story: 7.5/10

late flint
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So apparently the achievement notifications for Xbox still show the code name for the game jdjdhfhfhdjd

zenith kettle
#

At least it doesn't show "Monke"

zenith kettle
#

damn, 7.5 for last story?

viral tinsel
#

Hm

Mine is
Main campaign: 8/10
Trip's story: 7.5/10
Last story: 8.5/10

tribal badger
#

The length alone

honest patio
tribal badger
#

My biggest problem with Superstars as a whole is the boss length

#

Majority of them takes way too long

viral tinsel
#

Yeah I can see that being an issue.

#

Hopefully next game they can reduce the time that happens between attacks

#

I personally think these bosses have the right idea of what a classic boss should be

#

but the time they do between stuff definetely makes them feel like they drag

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something akin like marble garden act 2's boss would be nice

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not too short to cheese it drastically

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and not too long to feel like it drags

balmy cipher
leaden hemlock
#

YEAAAAAHAHHHHHH

#

I BEAT FANG

viral tinsel
#

W my bro

zenith kettle
#

The process for Rise of King game is apparently called "Monke.exe"

viral tinsel
zenith kettle
#

ye

balmy cipher
#

the devs really did not care at all

viral tinsel
#

lmaoasgdsd

balmy cipher
#

well I mean they did

#

but not enough to stick around for a game like that

leaden hemlock
#

IM DONE

#

I BEAT THE GAAAAAAME

viral tinsel
#

W

viral tinsel
leaden hemlock
#

I’ll share my thoughts in a bit :3

viral tinsel
#

mario wonder chat is above

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unless you refer to pinball carnival zone

rapid shuttle
viral tinsel
rapid shuttle
#

its dangerous tho, I already regreted it once

zealous spindle
#

making my way through trip's story atm

#

imagine doing this without super trip to cheese, couldn't be me

modern pebble
noble drift
#

The stages shower you in rings

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I was able to get to every single boss with super trip

#

It is really not that hard to do, i beat that terrible autoscrolling fang boss cuz i started with 200 rings

viral tinsel
#

I managed to beat trip's story without turning into super except for bosses lol

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and even then it was only in three of them

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(only because I wanted to test stuff. 2 out of 3 times it went good)

noble drift
#

Sounds pretty possible tbh

viral tinsel
#

It's possible. Egg robos can be annoying but nothing that a bit of precision doesn't solve

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(for some reason those bozos in here are the hardest they're ever been lol)

noble drift
#

Yea superstars is just

#

do you know these idiots? points at egg robo and fang

#

They are out to get you

viral tinsel
#

the only time going super went wrong for me was the press factory act 2 boss

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I wanted to be an asshole and cheese it

#

but it cheesed me instead by getting me out of the screen and killing me

#

I got karma there, I cannot complain lmao

noble drift
#

Ok but that wasnt your fault cuz super trip has a glitch there

#

The boss throws you to the corner of the screen and you die like you have been crushed

viral tinsel
#

Yeah I know. But I got very cocky at the beginning so I felt that bug was just my karma

#

It was a funny thing like I got all smug and such and suddenly the boss made me be more humble about it

#

lel

noble drift
#

Lol Meanwhile i got to fangs golden capital boss and just beat him entirely as super trip

zealous spindle
#

but

#

BUT

#

that boss was

#

actually enjoyable??

zealous spindle
#

they sped up the attacks to a degree where there's much less waiting and oh my god is that a world of difference

#

I feel like I'm actually going for the thing instead of sitting there having a wait!!

vivid saddle
#

finally done

knotty shoal
last bay
#

How many bots are ya allowed to make? Is the max 5? Cause that would be cringe

tribal badger
#

Bocchi the Rock vibes realshit

balmy cipher
#

anyways

#

so far my Trip Story run is...
something I suppose

jade aspen
#

THIS IS SO CUTE

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I LOVE THEM

tribal badger
#

Amy be like Sonic. Both bi and fruity

leaden hemlock
#

i love them

#

Eggman really be stepping up his Badnik designs fr

modest arch
long orbit
unique wedge
#

Yes

viral tinsel
#

Ooh no

noble drift
#

The 8 bit version was used

#

But not this one

#

Real shame

viral tinsel
#

I can see both having their pros and cons

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the unused one has a more melodious sound

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but the 8-bit sounds make it sound a bit more menacing

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wished there was a way to use both of them

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like idk filling a certain requirement you get to listen one or the other

#

I think this one is by Torienna

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the more frenetic sounds are in line with her stuff in TSR

viral tinsel
#

I have a weird fixation for Sky temple

#

like I am aware that songs like Pinball Carnival or speed jungle are better but this one gives me a certain satisfaction to listen

noble drift
#

Sky Temple is really good

#

People just wont give it a chance cuz of the sonic 2 drum set

viral tinsel
#

yeah it's really good

#

even with genesis stuff, it has a certain vibe to it

#

that sells me on the level

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just taking my time to explore, to find everything

noble drift
#

This one is just joy

#

I love this level

viral tinsel
#

I know act 2 is the peak song but I cannot feel anything but joy when playing act Amy

#

it is probably Amy's equivalent of Second wind

#

like the song just screams Amy to me

noble drift
#

Yea agreed it fits Classic Amy like a glove

#

It is very cute and has amazing vibes

viral tinsel
#

Peak vibes

#

I'll play act Amy just to be cheerful

noble drift
#

Yep same

viral tinsel
#

(also it's complimented by being one of the best showcases of Amy as a character)

#

her carrying trip to the very end and giving her an apple is just so good

zealous spindle
#

Act Amy is official yuri send tweet

#

Amy and Trip fruity moments is like, the most unsubtle metaphor possible sjdhgbjazgvsxz

tribal badger
#

Amy getting shipping just as much as Sonic

zealous spindle
#

GOOD

#

she deserves it‼️

viral tinsel
#

Trip's shyness compliments very well Amy's bubbly nature

#

no wonder they have this sudden raise in art of them together

balmy cipher
viral tinsel
#

Returning to the music, Egg station act 2 is so good

leaden hemlock
honest patio
viral tinsel
#

I personally don't see how mario looks rawer than super sonic

#

even with the context of just superstars, Super Sonic does not look as goofy

#

still looks cool though

tribal badger
#

.........hmm

#

Honestly Super Sonic just looks a lot cooler

#

Like I'm sorry but super transformations just goes very hard in many levels for a good reason

zealous spindle
tribal badger
#

💀

toxic canopy
tribal badger
#

........oh

toxic canopy
#

I’m never going to look at the OP the same way ever again 😭

zealous spindle
fickle burrow
#

Same 😭

toxic canopy
#

guys i hope sonic lrime never finishes 😢

fickle burrow
#

Specifically bc of that tweet, yeah it should go on until the end of time

tribal badger
#

Outside of that, there really isn't much else for me to watch in terms of new animated shows

noble drift
#

Sorry to backseat mod but can we not bring that stupidity here

toxic canopy
# honest patio

I still don't understand how an elephant looking backwards is even cool like what 😭

#

what is it that i am missing other than the obvious dick riding?

honest patio
#

he has the mustache obv

toxic canopy
#

oh shit you have a point

honest patio
#

mustache > super form

toxic canopy
#

he is so bad ass

honest patio
#

What an anti authority figure

#

unlike this freak

toxic canopy
#

he's so family friendly...ugh 🙄

unique wedge
#

And fat

noble drift
#

Trip could be really easy to make on hacks and srb2 and all that

balmy cipher
#

Haircut, suit and all

zealous spindle
#

got to the fang boss

#

oh this is

#

not fun huh

#

yeah actually I'm bailing on it this is absolutely not fun LMAO

#

like it's not "difficult", the attack patterns to learn are pretty easy overall but it just

#

takes forever to get through them

noble drift
#

Slow

#

Boring

zealous spindle
#

and they all one-hit KO

#

and like

noble drift
#

Its not difficult it just

zealous spindle
#

its just not fun

noble drift
#

Is very tiring and unfun

zealous spindle
#

I will not have enjoyment from this

noble drift
#

And guess what

#

The final boss is the same thing

#

Is a terrible final boss

#

Honestly after the fang boss i really grew to enjoy egg samurai

zealous spindle
#

maybe if the tweet oshima liked about mid-boss checkpoints comes to fruition I'll give it another try LOL

noble drift
#

I beat egg samurai in first try like 3 times already

#

No deaths

zealous spindle
#

I'll put some more time into that second phase but only if I never have to do the first again, I've proven I can jump over the missiles like a good girl

noble drift
#

Fang boss is just boring

zealous spindle
#

cleansing my senses by replaying the amy yuri stage yet again

#

froot :)

noble drift
#

That stage is the joy

#

Egg Samueai is difficult and tense

#

Fang boss is just boring

leaden hemlock
#

The Egg wha?

noble drift
#

Samurai

zealous spindle
noble drift
#

Nah and the way she went from looking like sonic to looking like trip??

leaden hemlock
noble drift
#

Yes

leaden hemlock
#

Wait-

#

You’re being serious

noble drift
#

Yes

leaden hemlock
#

Is that the file name???

noble drift
#

Its Egg Samurai

#

He chops stuff

leaden hemlock
#

THE BOSSES HAVE NAMES??

noble drift
#

Has a samurai thing in his head

leaden hemlock
#

Sigh. Getting my hopes up once again.

noble drift
#

?

#

They do have names

#

I am not lying

leaden hemlock
#

You’re not making this one up

#

what’s the Bridge Island boss then? After the Mosasaurus?

noble drift
#

I dont know

#

I just know the name of the final boss is egg samurai

#

Ask someone else

leaden hemlock
#

I’ve tried asking, even asked about the names of the Badniks from the game files. I didn’t get a response

#

And I wouldn’t know who to specifically ask

noble drift
#

Honest, i heard from people playing it that the name of the boss is egg samurai

#

David specifically

#

And i dont think hes lying cuz egg samurai is not really what i think when i see that robot lol

leaden hemlock
#

I suppose so. I’ll keep “Egg Samurai” in mind, but I’m still on the look out for genuine Superstars names, game file and/or confirmed by Sonic Team

unique wedge
#

What boss would even be egg samurai

leaden hemlock
#

I’m on a mission

leaden hemlock
viral tinsel
unique wedge
#

Which one is it

leaden hemlock
#

Eggman’s boss

unique wedge
#

Because I have no idea with those names

#

The last one?

leaden hemlock
#

Well there’s only two bosses at Egg Fortress, and that’s with Eggman vs Sonic & Co. and then Fang vs Trip

unique wedge
#

Oh yeah Egg Fortress is the stage

hot cosmos
#

@rugged copper

#

I now see what you mean

#

Some of those stages in Trip's story

#

What happened

#

I wanted to pull my fucking hair out

#

Never let Arzest cook again

modest arch
#

they were doing good with the levels in the main game

#

dunno why they decided it was a good time to introduce element spam there

#

and bottomless pits lol

#

main game levels barely have any

viral tinsel
#

I personally didn't find them more difficult than base game, well not true entirely. It is true that I found them harder but it was not as drastic as I thought it would be.

#

except for 1 element

#

These bozos snipe the hell out of me on sight

leaden hemlock
#

The bunch of Eggrobos sniping me from the background in Frozen Base and making Trip lose her 50 rings before she can Super transform will get my vengeance

viral tinsel
#

Mhm. For me it was in speed jungle and in egg fortress act 2

#

in act 1 of speed jungle there is a pit where there are 2 egg robos and you better be quick or you may be dead

#

and in act 2 is in one of those grey hologram-like platforming segments

unique wedge
#

He still my goat smh

modest arch
#

at least the upcoming fang idw miniseries exists

toxic canopy
#

Do we know the composers and arrangers for every song in the game?

modest arch
#

not fully, no

#

at this point it's just educated guesses

tribal badger
#

I'll probably have to go with... Speed

fickle burrow
#

Speed is prob the most accurate yeah

leaden hemlock
#

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Ayyyye, guys! Ian talked about a thing!

#

Trip is apparently the guardian of the Northstar Islands!

noble drift
#

...

leaden hemlock
#

Her armor is ceremonial, as those who wore it in the past (depicted on the Golden Capital mural) were also guardians

fickle burrow
#

Yeah that seemed like that was the case lol

noble drift
tribal badger
#

Yeah I always thought that's a sheer dead giveaway

modern pebble
#

would’ve been decent if there was a videogame that had the chance to explain such an important detail for a new character in the sonic universe

fickle burrow
#

I mean they do kinda explain that don't they

#

At least the first half

tribal badger
#

ngl I can see Knuckles getting along very well with Trip

noble drift
#

They do

tribal badger
#

Since they are both basically the last guardians

noble drift
#

Is literally there

tribal badger
#

Helps even more that he founds out the mural also

fickle burrow
#

With the way trip is introduced in the comic, trio of trouble, and how she generally interacts with animals in the game

leaden hemlock
#

I just thought she lived there and her armor was passed down among species, not that of being passed down among guardians. Though, Trip’s Story campaign makes a lot more sense now to me.

noble drift
#

But it was on the mural anyways

leaden hemlock
#

my brain went in a completely different direction

modern pebble
#

maybe it’s my fault but I didn’t really get any of that from playing the game and watching the animation

tribal badger
#

I always assume she is after playing Knuckles's level

modern pebble
#

oh

#

that’s the level I didn’t play

tribal badger
#

Helps even more that she even gain access to get super too

modern pebble
#

I played every level except for the solo knuckles act

tribal badger
#

bruh wtf?

unique wedge
#

So

modern pebble
fickle burrow
tribal badger
#

no no I mean why did you just skip Knuckles level and yet doing the other exclusive levels

modern pebble
#

I just explained it SGM.

tribal badger
#

That's what I am more confused about

modern pebble
#

I was playing in multiplayer

#

If you pick a character act then it’s single player

unique wedge
#

He only played multiplayer in the back half

fickle burrow
tribal badger
#

Oh me dumb af Pensive_Todoke

unique wedge
#

So he was on single-player at first is what I understand

#

I mean he was

#

Because the knux act is late into the game

tribal badger
#

hmm..... yeah fair enough lmao

high schooner
#

So who can explain why Trio of Trouble was not included in the game

#

Or the comic

unique wedge
#

They don't like including these

#

I have wondered the same for other media such as the Frontiers: Prologue

high schooner
#

They did things right with Origins

fickle burrow
#

Saving space is my only guess?

#

For trio of trouble

#

Comic shouldn't be very heavy lol

high schooner
#

Having a media player with the cutscenes and Mania Adventures, that should've been the way to go moving forward

unique wedge
high schooner
#

The games are already small in filesize for the most part there's literally no reason not to include essential shit for the story

fickle burrow
noble drift
#

They jusy didnt want to

#

Simple as that

fickle burrow
#

And those videos are straight up the majority of the filesize

high schooner
#

I had to show my brother all the comics and animations as he isn't allowed to use social media and such

#

I'm sick of games being like "oh yea, want the proper full story, well hope ya like using everything except the actual game"

#

lookin' at you Destiny

unique wedge
#

Yeaa

fickle burrow
#

I feel this especially in frontiers where the prequel animation is straight up one of the best parts about the game for me

toxic canopy
#

guys

#

why does the trip final boss music goes crazy

zealous spindle
fickle burrow
#

Kinda funny how it looks a lot better than the animation done for the game itself

zealous spindle
#

immensely funny watching people beg for sonic from an anime studio again for years, only for us to get that and it turning out
not that good ngl 😭

fickle burrow
#

Tbf i think every time people ask for that they specifically mean with animation better than sonic x

#

And

The animation here is literally by the same people 😭

tribal badger
#

Another reason why we should stop listening to the fans all the time

fickle burrow
#

Not really

#

Lmao

#

Sonic animated by Japanese studios could still look really good it's just pretty clear that the circumstances in this instance didn't allow for that

high schooner
#

They should only listen to one fan

#

Me

#

All I will give to them is a list

#

Not to Sonic Team

#

But to Sega

#

And the list will have 2 items on it

#
  1. Better resources, time, and team positions

  2. Let Powerhouse make an animated Sonic series that doesn't have toddlers as the primary demographic please holy shit god damn it why

zealous spindle
fickle burrow
#

is there a bug in the game that causes pupils to go missing?

wise kiln
tribal badger
#

I mean I assume she is?

modest arch
tribal badger
#

Otherwise we would have seen her kind too

modest arch
#

i hate how there's barely any elaboration with these cutscenes

#

they could at least be a little more elaborate with the cutscenes and what/how they show things since it's 3d and modern now

unique wedge
#

Yea

wise kiln
#

On one hand I think what they're doing is super different from having the story explained in manuals and such

#

On the other hand, perhaps audience tastes have changed

honest patio
#

i have the ideal vision….

high schooner
#

You're blind, you fool

unique wedge
#

Both look stupid

modest arch
#

come on

#

don't you understand marza sonic ?

#

best sonic model in years i tell you

wise kiln
#

Honestly Marza really does have the best model

modest arch
#

yeah og is kinda right lol

wise kiln
#

It has the right mix of runner-esque sleekness and not being super noodly

#

And the best quill silhouette

honest patio
modest arch
#

i like the steps superstars has taken to modernise classic sonic, but it still feels like it's stuck in the past in all the wrong areas

unique wedge
# honest patio

I would like to apologize and retract my previous statement

wise kiln
#

My problem with fan models is that a lot of them feel too weighted in some regard
Too big a head, too long limbs, too round body, too blocky face

wise kiln
#

I don't think it's a bad game

#

And it's a good recreation of Classic in many ways

#

But look at Wonder, that is taking that older type of gameplay but is making it more

#

The emerald powers imo were a good idea, but a lot of the game nonetheless feels like it hasn't accounted for how audience tastes have changed since S3K

modest arch
#

how do you think the audience taste has changed?

#

i'm thinking people like to see a completely fresh take on classic sonic but keeping what made it good and liked by fans and casuals

#

like mario wonder

#

they could do something like how wonder got its new mechanics

#

forcing designers to refrain from using existing enemies, designs, themes etc

tribal badger
#

Not sure if I can agreed over reusing enemies since the majority of mario enemies are still there

modest arch
#

i'd say that's there to keep things familiar of sorts

#

but i'm mostly talking about the new enemies

tribal badger
#

ah fair

balmy cipher
#

insane how I have seen so much fan art of her and somehow, I now want her to appear in the Modern era

#

she can't stay in the Classic era forever

#

cuz that shit would be dumb as fuck

leaden hemlock
#

Then you’d want to talk to SEGA about that one :v

#

same can be said for Mighty, Ray, Fang’s Gang, Honey, the Hard-Boiled Heavies, the-

zenith kettle
#

Hard-boiled Heavies can stay in Classic for all I care lmao

#

The rest tho - yeah, seeing them in Modern era at least in comics would be nice

#

Actually I guess seeing Hard-boiled Heavies in Modern era would also be neat, they could actually be written characters

vast latch
#

I thought the HBH were destroyed by the end of Mania

noble drift
#

Eh nothing stats destroyed in sonic

last bay
#

Eggman rebuilt em in the 30th Anniversary comic so they just chilling now

leaden hemlock
#

^

late flint
unique wedge
#

bro

#

(I died and the level restarted)

noble drift
#

You won

unique wedge
#

I didn~t

balmy cipher
unique wedge
#

I clutched the last hit with flying tails

#

Except at the same time it resulted in him bouncing back to the pit

balmy cipher
#

And the game counted that as a achievement unlock because the devs don’t know how to make Steamworks… work with Unity

#

even more so than EOS

#

if that shit slipped through, then they really should’ve gotten more Unity devs into this

#

and that’s before all the Unity runtime shite that came and went

viral tinsel
#

I think it is because it is programmed to count it in the last hit

#

not after the sequence is complete, where normally you wouldn't die

#

So basically it is well programmed but it shows a little loop in it's instances

balmy cipher
#

Could’ve done it when the game went to the last main story FMV

#

not when you get the last hit

#

that shit would trigger false positives with how you technically unlocked the achievement but also managed to fail it at the same time

viral tinsel
#

I mean, the trigger on itself is not necessarily badly programmed in this case

#

it's more so it's placing within the code what is the iffy part

unique wedge
#

I can see why people don't like this boss

#

I do know how it works for the most part as I technically beat it, but it's tiring

balmy cipher
modest arch
#

to increase how long they last they chose to introduce longer i-frames (hence letting boss enter more attack cycles) instead of increasing hits

unique wedge
#

The final boss (in the main campaign) is surprisingly one of the better ones

#

But that is not really a good thing, because it still is a very annoying boss fight

rapid shuttle
#

Okay so I'm like 99% sure I figured out why you can't get high bounces off of enemies in Sonic Superstars.

I am in shambles right now I cannot believe this.

Example of what I mean in the video, explanation in th…

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#

Huh, I thought unintentionally removing object bouncing didnt make sense but apearantly that can happen.

modest arch
#

ohshima please see 🙏

rapid shuttle
#

I dont think Oshima can do much about it.

shy turtle
#

it's obvious

#

just not as much

#

like

#

bruh

#

but yeah it forces you into a jump

#

which isn't the same thing

rapid shuttle
#

No it isnt

#

Im not a fan

modest arch
#

it's minute but it can make all the difference

#

with a physics based game like sonic

rapid shuttle
#

I just feel like there is no point of not having it, and it takes away opportunities for player expresion.

placid kayak
#

Imagine people dumping sonic superstars and setting up on fire

knotty shoal
#

what 😭

boreal mirage
#

Let them cook

faint garden
#

Honestly I just uninstalled Superstars

boreal mirage
#

nooo

#

what happened nutty

last bay
#

got to the final fang fight and wow, this is shit. why tf did arzest gave fang so many insta kill moves? are they fuckign stupid?

#

not only that but it takes sooooo fucking long to get to the second half of the fight

#

im too tired for this shit, im resting pissed

surreal lion
#

final fang sucks

#

it's like Death Egg boss from Sonic 2 but worse

last bay
#

OG Death Egg Robot fight isnt too bad with Sonic and Tails with proper timing. Knuckles is where it sucks but even that isnt like this Fang fight, if Arzest gonna make more Classic games. Make bosses cheesable, sure make em tough but if Im skilled enough then I should be able to beat bosses quickly.

#

I hope Fang suffers

viral tinsel
#

It only has two insta kill moves, ain't it?

#

and all of them are avoidable

#

(I do agree it takes quite a while)

last bay
#

theres the death lasers in the first half which are easy to avoid but then theres the clones and the real one smashes through the floor if u arent quick enough to hit em and i rarely get that hit

#

the webs caught me off guard so having him sucker punch was kinda bs

#

then having him summon more webs caught me even more off guard

#

and to think i have to start all that from scratch puts me on suicide watch on god

surreal lion
#

then he smashes the floor with no clear indicators, I believe that's when you got the final hit?

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one mistake and boom, it's all over

shy turtle
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yeah ngl, the fact that it keeps summoning webs even after it caught you is a bit bs

viral tinsel
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it's close to the end

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does it?

last bay
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i need to rest cause sleep deprivation and gamer rage isnt a good mix

viral tinsel
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I remember I got caught and Fang shoots the bullet-things

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not more webs

surreal lion
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he is trying to shoot more webs when you run around

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so if you want to skip to the bullet section, you need to stand still

viral tinsel
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Mhm, I prefer to continue running and avoid them

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it's more fun

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at least to me

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timing my jumps and trajectory is cool and intense

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I do agree it should be faster

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or have a checkpoint

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(maybe both)

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the only time I felt it was a bitch move it was the slam at the end

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but once I noticed the nose it's easier to anticipate

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and learned the trick to mash quick out of the web if I get caught

modest arch
shy turtle
leaden hemlock
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the precious

shy turtle
noble drift
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Wow she looks amazing

zealous spindle
shy turtle
tidal isle
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An older Trip wearing her old helmet as a hat cause she grew up and it no longer fits is not a bad idea ThatsPrime

viral tinsel
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That would be cool

unique wedge
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I am tired of seeing these Classic characters being stuck in the past.

tidal isle
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I need modern Fang with a big ass Sniper Rifle( that migh or migh not still shoot cork pellets)

unique wedge
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Exactly

modest arch
tidal isle
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Gonna assume the reason animals are so big in the islands is the influence of the Gem, which probably also made this dude from a normal-sized sungazer into a dragon

tribal badger
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Considering Trip's super form, it's very believable

rapid shuttle
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God damn it, I still didnt draw Trip like I promissed

unique wedge
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I didn't notice that

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Cool

viral tinsel
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It's so cool the Sonic 3 throwback.

wise kiln
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Cute

placid kayak
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Superstars is selling poorly in japan

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Wonder if it would sell poorly worldwide

zinc phoenix
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I dunno if the price tag is helpin

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I'm not gonna make a judgement whether they should have charged 60, but ill say this. It launched besides spiderman, mario wonder, and now Alan Wake 2 and the last one is 50 bucks, and is 100% garunteed to be heat. I dunno if the price helping

crude kelp
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especially since we know that game sold well in UK

faint garden
faint garden
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A game with far more money, far more hype

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And that basically takes its entire market share

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Should've pushed it to December

crude kelp
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i agree but i don`t think sales would change much if the game gonna be released in december

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the main reason for these sales was a lack of marketing

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I really haven't seen any superstars commercials in japan other than TGS and the Korone stream

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and it's kind of weird for me because I thought that after the success of Frontiers, Sega would invest even more in advertising games

modest arch
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maybe next time bros...