Sonic Superstars (spoilers)

[shy turtle]

i'm confused

[zealous spindle]

poor arzest employees crying in pain at adding the 74th new unskippable boss phase that week

[zenith kettle]

Jun's tracks?

[honest patio]

don’t you guys see

jun will make sonic 4 episode 3 and we will change our minds

[glad geyser]

Fizzle

It's Sonic 5 bro

[glad geyser]

No 💀

[zenith kettle]

Then what do you mean?

[zealous spindle]

could you imagine if movie 3 listened to the soundtrack complaints and got Jun in

.......only for it to be the Sonic 4 synth shit LMAO

[glad geyser]

Like when Jun makes good tracks for whatever thing he does next

[fickle burrow]

I hate that the animations that take forever are actually really well done and appealing I don't want to hate them fang doing cartoon villain shit is so fun 😭

[shy turtle]

well yeah jun is good when he's not using the genesis soundchip

but he's killing it at the guitar

[honest patio]

https://tenor.com/view/school-days-school-death-running-anime-gif-18322654

It’s what I say it is……

[noble drift]

Yea like, we know jun does good when hes away from genesis instrumentation

We are not hating his work in general

[zenith kettle]

Nobody said Jun can't make good tracks. He just can't make the instruments he chose work at all

[noble drift]

We know how amazing he is

[glad geyser]

I am the original

[zenith kettle]

And that's not changing if he uses the same instruments for next game

[noble drift]

Like how did you even get to that conclusion lmao

[tidal isle]

Ik its not the point but it would be cool if he came back once. That not-megaman Z idea could work with some tweaking to involve silver so at the end of the game it doesn´t happens via time shenanigans

[fickle burrow]

Remember when jun pulled this out of nowhere last year https://youtu.be/wdN0zu2fuiU?si=9UHI_4C9K0zi7UmN

[agile lotus]

Did you know that Pietro Giovanni Guzzo supported the premise that the photomosaics would be a useful method of recording structures in Pompeii, and pointed out that the photomosaics could also be used for other purposes including analyses of past deterioration. The scope of the project was, therefore, broadened.

[glad geyser]

These kind of reactionary comments henry

[tacit coral]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-sense-thinking-headache-spiderman-spiderverse-gif-12678047

[glad geyser]

[honest patio]

they should get mob choir to make a sonic ost it will be kino peak i promise

[glad geyser]

Or maybe just a mob

[tacit coral]

I agree with Henry though

I want to see Jun cook, Bridge Island is his work right?

[honest patio]

Tho ngl

some of y’all act like jun killed your dog because he made mid music 😭

[shy turtle]

it's just like, jun's work is lacking depths and... other things... outside of the genesis soundchip

[shy turtle]

bro this ain't twitter

as i said

[strong lodge]

yes indeedy

[shy turtle]

i think the ost ranges from mediocre to great

[tacit coral]

Yeah that track slaps imo

[shy turtle]

overall it's mid/aight

[tacit coral]

And I've enjoyed the Sonic 4 ost in it's own right for like years now

[strong lodge]

oops thinking of the wrong song

[zealous spindle]

immense temptation to post the remains of that one pompeii guy caught knocking one out in his final moments

[fickle burrow]

Seemingly like a good amount of tracks have beta versions that sound like they're composed by him even if they were later arranged by other artists

[glad geyser]

Did someone say something

About 20 feet

[honest patio]

https://vxtwitter.com/porky_draws/status/1714467672836964670?s=46

[glad geyser]

[honest patio]

CACKLING

[shy turtle]

okay here's a legit question, do you think superstars' genesis music is on par with the music in the genesis games ?

[strong lodge]

thoughts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYjpTeH3yZM

[zealous spindle]

FUCK no lmao

[fickle burrow]

We should get ohtani on a classic game and jun on a modern game to mix stuff up

[shy turtle]

erm

nah

[tacit coral]

💀

[shy turtle]

i don't want my orchestral shit to be replaced

[fickle burrow]

Jun could do orchestral if he wanted I think

[shy turtle]

the final version trashes it

[strong lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA7zAuxatOQ 🫡

[zealous spindle]

cool midi!! how's juns final piece sound

[glad geyser]

The cyber stage final version is one of the best tracks in the game

[shy turtle]

ye

[shy turtle]

midi's ain't the problem here

[tacit coral]

Oh yeah this is muuuch better

Not that it couldn't be better

[fickle burrow]

The boss track there was the highlight of the music in that zone tho imo

[tacit coral]

But I can see the vision

[shy turtle]

tee's mania tracks are all made in midi

[tidal isle]

this one is good

[shy turtle]

hell, if you want someone outside of sonic who uses midi greatly

[tacit coral]

Nevermind I think it's actually good as well

[shy turtle]

idk

toby fox ?

[glad geyser]

That was good too

[glad geyser]

Well yeah, because the final mix is way better

[strong lodge]

i won't post it

[glad geyser]

💀

[fickle burrow]

https://youtu.be/i-vFyoV2mUA?si=18puc26yQ--e0PLi

It works really well for the fight

[strong lodge]

do you guys think he did the cyber station that i didn't post with the intention of releasing it like that

fuck it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8zxd6cexm4

[fickle burrow]

Nah I'm pretty confident that that was a demo ver

[glad geyser]

I'm not music savvy but I swear this is the same synth from 1 boss track in Bravely Default 2 lol

[fickle burrow]

But I do think it would've been more similar to that instrumentation than the final one

[shy turtle]

too fast paced for me

i wish it had half the notes it does lmao

the stage's music is a banger tho

[zenith kettle]

There's an even earlier version that's all Sonic 4 font

[fickle burrow]

Yeah he posted it earlier

[fickle burrow]

.

[zenith kettle]

Oh ok

[shy turtle]

so basically

[strong lodge]

i sent it just before, and honestly i respect that one

[shy turtle]

let him compose, but do NOT let him arrange ?

[strong lodge]

At this point yeah

[tidal isle]

The beggining is alright but then it does this weird thing where the note overstays and distorts. It itches my ear

[strong lodge]

Jun literally found people who use the ym2612

[shy turtle]

maybe he shouldn't have searched in the first place

😎

anyway

[toxic canopy]

but he already does that !!!

[tacit coral]

He needs to do it more....

[toxic canopy]

for the most part at least

they should just get Ohtani

[shy turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-lets-kill-him-spongebob-gif-26979738

[toxic canopy]

I miss GOATahni…

[unique wedge]

That's Soupstars

Stop trying to deny it

[toxic canopy]

Literally drops an album with 40 songs that have u ascending the moon

How will he ever top that

Where is he now

What is he cooking

[tacit coral]

The Ohtani in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs4kBNq_dzs&ab_channel=SEGA-Topic

[toxic canopy]

Is he even real ⁉️

[toxic canopy]

This is so fuckin fire I wish this was in Sonic Froces…

[fickle burrow]

Same it's been like

21 days since the last ohtani dropped 😔

[tribal badger]

better than every single track from superstars (i haven't even listened a single one)

[tacit coral]

W

[toxic canopy]

I’m saying

[tacit coral]

(no it's not how could I say that)

[toxic canopy]

hiiii Pepito :3

[zealous spindle]

why are there bees trapped in my headphones

[fickle burrow]

Dropaholic 2 when

[shy turtle]

never

[fickle burrow]

I need them to release the sequel to undefeatable where's undefeatable 2

[shy turtle]

BASED

[toxic canopy]

The most fucking insane part of the remix is when she says “Drophalic” and I’m like

[tacit coral]

https://tenor.com/view/bee-eyebrow-raise-vurge-bee-gif-6443281501236067345

[toxic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

SHE SAYS THE NAME

THATS THE NAME OF THE SONG!!!!

[honest patio]

when ohtani slander is needed faded hills is always handy

[fickle burrow]

THE DROP IS AHOLIC

[tacit coral]

You know, Knuckles... we really are the Superstars....

[tribal badger]

wassup spectre

[zealous spindle]

-spectre when the divorce papers come through

[unique wedge]

All across these new Sonic Frontiers

[shy turtle]

we can all fumble once or twice in our lives

[toxic canopy]

doing well buddy how U doing

[glad geyser]

Sonic composers held at gunpoint to do classic "sounding" music 😭

[tribal badger]

the melody in faded hills isn't even bad 😭 it's those megadrive ass sounds

[tacit coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmxIMvjef5M&ab_channel=JaysonJeanChannel

[honest patio]

you can NOT make this up

[tribal badger]

been a bit busy lately but im fine thx buddy

[shy turtle]

held by who 💀 jun's the one making this shit

[toxic canopy]

I’m so happy for them

[tacit coral]

Then what happened with Ohtani!!!

[tribal badger]

no? he was barely involved in forces

[tacit coral]

The Goat himself!!!

[glad geyser]

Sonic CD composer btw

[tacit coral]

Oh

[shy turtle]

oh y'all talk about forces

[tribal badger]

well jun does it but i doubt he asked ohtani to do it

[glad geyser]

They didn't let him use CD quality music

💀

So slanderous

Although I say Sonic CD

[tacit coral]

Gotta stay "consistant"

[strong lodge]

guys did you know Hataya did a Palmtree Panic remix for Samba de amigo

it's new...

[glad geyser]

I feel is defining work is on NiGHTS anyways

[tacit coral]

This sounds ominous

[glad geyser]

In the nights

[fickle burrow]

Wait what I didn't know that

[glad geyser]

Dream delight

I know you are there something something

Such a cozy track with it's 50 remixes

[shy turtle]

it cannot IN-DEED

[toxic canopy]

can someone sing this to me

[fickle burrow]

Remember when they did a windy hill remix for sonic and friends a few weeks ago

[toxic canopy]

I’m about to head to bed

🥺

[fickle burrow]

NOT WINDY HILL

WINDY VALLEY

[vivid saddle]

pinj mechanic

[glad geyser]

The only person that acknowledges Samba de Amigo here is @modest arch . Now you do too, wonga

[toxic canopy]

WHOAHHHHHH

man I should invest in SONICCOIN

[glad geyser]

Can't believe you didn't

[shy turtle]

SPOTED THE SCRUNKLY

[honest patio]

How did Jun do this 3 times

Sonic 4, Origins and Soup

[shy turtle]

i need someone to do a modern trip design

[fickle burrow]

Soniccoin gonna get to the moon!!!

Is that what they say

[tacit coral]

Trip is awesome

[glad geyser]

Did you guys know

[fickle burrow]

It's something about the moon

[toxic canopy]

Guys

What if im just genderbend trip

[shy turtle]

spectre

erm

[zealous spindle]

wait

[tacit coral]

what if you are...

[zealous spindle]

wait

[vivid saddle]

trip is one of the new top tier sonic girls in the cast....

[zealous spindle]

just clocked

[zealous spindle]

trip can double jump, right

[vivid saddle]

yer

[shy turtle]

ye

[fickle burrow]

Behold

[zealous spindle]

holy shit they did it

[vivid saddle]

IM IN LOVE

[zealous spindle]

the absolute madlads

[toxic canopy]

WHERE IS THAT RENDER FROM!??!!!

[vivid saddle]

artbook

[shy turtle]

that ain't it

[zealous spindle]

the prophesy is TRUE

[glad geyser]

Solaris Phase 2 and all the other ones composer probably composed the normal final boss for Superstars

There's apparently another pso2 composer on the ost so I'm not sure who did what

[vivid saddle]

https://fxtwitter.com/pukopop/status/1714429299917287720

[tacit coral]

Lol they removed the gold scale

[fickle burrow]

Damn bro brought out all 4 vids 😭

I should draw trip

[zealous spindle]

would trip be flat y/n

[vivid saddle]

WHO knows!

[toxic canopy]

Either way, they’re all awesome !!!!!

[zealous spindle]

ofc the blaze liker would say that SMH SMH

[glad geyser]

Second one is inspirational, but 3rd one gonna take the cake

[toxic canopy]

I’m a fan of all GRAAAAH

[vivid saddle]

exactly!! we love her regardless!!

[toxic canopy]

Fr!!!

I love lizardia 🔥 🦎

[fickle burrow]

I did a render with her model after i tried to rip it but I should draw her

[vivid saddle]

tbh trip is like a character made to like, be very HARD to dislike

it's just a failgirl, cute and shy girl trope

in one

[toxic canopy]

She’s literally like me

[tacit coral]

noooooo don't trip

[vivid saddle]

it's a character they really want you to like 😭

[toxic canopy]

It’s so hard to dislike me

[vivid saddle]

and it works

[toxic canopy]

The same way for Trip

Fire

Raw

Goat

[tacit coral]

Why is she tripping she lost her armer...

[shy turtle]

she's like kobeni except she's not annoying !!!

[tidal isle]

Do spikes count as boobs

[fickle burrow]

I think its a type of character that if you execute badly they can be really lame tho

[toxic canopy]

PS1 Trip be like 🥴

[fickle burrow]

But they did her really well

[vivid saddle]

yeah but since they did very cool stuff with her, she gets the W

[tidal isle]

lol

[zealous spindle]

damn ghz be stacked fr fr 🔥🔥

[vivid saddle]

im ngl i have never ever cared for mighty or ray for instance (aside from like, eh they're cool) but Trip i like INSTANTLY want in modern

[shy turtle]

BASED

BASADO

[fickle burrow]

Wait i know what to draw

[zealous spindle]

girlfail..... she just like me fr.........

[vivid saddle]

girlfails...

[toxic canopy]

Guys the feds

They’re near…

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-metal-gear-solid-mgs-fish-gif-25288765

[zealous spindle]

(used to be a lot more shy but getting better at it post-eggcrack)

[toxic canopy]

Remember to eat fish !!

[tacit coral]

They'll never take me tbh

I've never done anything wrong!!!

[vivid saddle]

fuck yea

[shy turtle]

that's what's sonic's doing with the fish after he catch them in frontiers

[toxic canopy]

Gn everyone ❤️

[zealous spindle]

(who knew being more self-confident with my own identity can help with confidence proper, how wacky)

[toxic canopy]

Remember to trip on !!!

[vivid saddle]

sleep well tripper

[tacit coral]

Gn Tripster

[zealous spindle]

gn tripchamp

[vivid saddle]

look at this guy in the fang collective

when u could be with the trippers

[tacit coral]

Ew brown

[vivid saddle]

@toxic canopy

[zealous spindle]

went to that sonic fan fest on saturday and was able to hold!!

[tacit coral]

LMAO NOOOO

[zealous spindle]

actual conversations!!

with strangers!!!

[shy turtle]

gn spec

[tacit coral]

Omg that's so based

[zealous spindle]

UNHEARD of from me like a couple years back I'd just be standing looking at my feet like "s-sonic good"

[tacit coral]

Anyway Fang still da best

That's the kind of thing you love to hear

[tacit coral]

True...

About to go to KFC...

[zealous spindle]

(also got emotional with my GF during TJ Davies' slower-paced rendition of Diamond in the Sky GOD what a weekend)

shoutout to sonic fans IRL for actually being cool and nice people who'd thunk it

[shy turtle]

well ngl

[zealous spindle]

met so many nice people there, taking away that famous internet-brand anonymity does a world of good

[shy turtle]

i feel like that

if these sonic fans have other passions

they're really cool

but if all they can talk about is sonic

then it's dead

[tacit coral]

Have you ever encountered one irl

[zealous spindle]

I'd expand that to if all they can talk about is nerd culture in general, but absolutely 100%

[toxic canopy]

I met H3y yesterday

Different person irl

[zealous spindle]

the well-rounded individual test

[shy turtle]

points taken if they're part if SiC

[tacit coral]

That's crazy

[toxic canopy]

Makes me wish H3y was real…

[shy turtle]

?

no u

[tacit coral]

Well

Sometimes wishes become reality

Maybe if we wish with all our hearts

[shy turtle]

i wish spectre was real

[tacit coral]

Tripping will be real

[zealous spindle]

dare i say these kinda people don't go to these events, too busy being keyboard warriors

[toxic canopy]

i wish h3ylow and trip was real

Dream come true

Honest to God tho

[shy turtle]

maybe if he comes to paris in june with dakii and i, i'll believe he's actually real

we could have kebabs

[toxic canopy]

I’d love to meet some of you all irl

[toxic canopy]

GRAAAH THAT WAS MY IDEA

[shy turtle]

THEN COME

[zealous spindle]

(not even just that place, just in general - the miserable glass-half-empty ones either change their tune or simply don't go cos they don't do fresh air, one of the two)

[toxic canopy]

I need to get out of med school asap so I can join y’all

[tacit coral]

I'll eat mcdonalds

[toxic canopy]

I’ll hunt u and dakiii down

Then we will have the best durum kebabs

[shy turtle]

you just need to know if ur free in early june

[toxic canopy]

😭

Won’t be able to do self/travel till I graduate unfortunately

[zealous spindle]

damn getting ahead of urself aren't u naughty boy

[shy turtle]

[toxic canopy]

Listen.

[tacit coral]

Us glass half empty people know how to code switch dw

[shy turtle]

bro that's like... eons away

[toxic canopy]

Anyways Gn fr fr 😭

[tacit coral]

We're here... but invisible...

[zealous spindle]

if u bookin a single hotel room for da TC meetup.... we'll know......

[shy turtle]

i'l visible

[tacit coral]

no you're not

We don;'t even know if you exist eyt....

Need.... confirmation

[tacit coral]

Also this is so funny to do bc

On the one hand you accomidate the pessimists whenever you talk to them

[shy turtle]

you know what's crazy

[tacit coral]

But if they dare mingle with the optimists

[shy turtle]

it's that i know for certain

[tacit coral]

Then it's uuuuuuh

"Why tf do you talk with these people"

[shy turtle]

that there's people in here, that i can consider as friends, that i will NEVER see

[tacit coral]

True 😔

[shy turtle]

😔

fuck the earth

[tacit coral]

Flying is expensive...

[fickle burrow]

SKETCHOG TRIP!!

[shy turtle]

shit's too big

[tacit coral]

we need to blow it up fr

[shy turtle]

lose some weight heavy ass

[tacit coral]

Omg

[zealous spindle]

oh no I don't mean normal levels of glass-half-empty, I mean like

[tacit coral]

Right yeah

THOSE people

[zealous spindle]

teenage angst "I just learned what critique is for the first time in my life" glass-half-empty lmao

[tacit coral]

Watching yt video essays on why everything sucks all the time

[shy turtle]

so basically in paris i'll see :
dakii and... that's it 💀

[tacit coral]

[unique wedge]

Now make this a mod

[fickle burrow]

Man when model modding is a thing I'm def making this + other sketchogs into superstars

[fickle burrow]

Literally was just saying lmao

[tacit coral]

Sketchhog Superstars would go hard

[shy turtle]

pepito ain't coming cuz he's still mad that sega made superstars

[tacit coral]

LMAO

[knotty shoal]

Lol

[zealous spindle]

tfw used to do this during my miserable critique phase 💀💀

[shy turtle]

(that is not a joke btw)

[tacit coral]

Hey

A little essay is good

As a treat

[zealous spindle]

it wasn't the good ones

it was the animation critique "why didn't they just fly the eagles to mt doom" type shit 😭

[tacit coral]

Cinemasins....

[agile lotus]

Found this in the Sonic Superstars modding server:

In regards to one big change Superstars did for the physics
You know how in the 2d Sonic games and even some 3d ones when you jump while moving fast
There's some air drag that slows you down a bit
that's not in superstars

[tacit coral]

I love cinemasin rolls

[zealous spindle]

cinemasins was fine when it started!! cos it was a joke, that was the joke!!

[agile lotus]

It feels a lot better though, I love how Sonic feels in Superstars (although badnik bouncing can be lil better)

[zealous spindle]

but then people interpreted it as

actual earnest critique

and it ruined like, an entire generation of minds

[hoary trench]

Good lord the audio

[glad geyser]

Air drag is good

[tacit coral]

NOOOOOOO WHERE'D THE 10 DOLLAR 8 PIECE CHICKEN BUCKET GO

[unique wedge]

The boss music doesn't seem to play for some reason

[tacit coral]

https://tenor.com/view/noooooo-depression-meme-spiderman-gif-19814282

[hoary trench]

That has happened several times

Honestly

[agile lotus]

Brie is Trip's beta name here

[hoary trench]

Upgrade

[agile lotus]

Also Rabbit's name "Max" is in the files as his name but there's also rabbit

Which is weird

[unique wedge]

I was just watching someone do the campaign in the same boss like 15 minutes ago

And it was like that

Lol

[tacit coral]

Brie the Bragon

[glad geyser]

Max the Doge

[glad geyser]

the Cheese

[tacit coral]

Oh...

Damn I'm so sad about this chicken

Now it's back up to like $20 per bucket

smh

oh my god it literally is

[vivid saddle]

he''s too fat... the goalpost...

[tacit coral]

Is max supposed to be a different character from the rabbit

[agile lotus]

Max is the Rabbit's name from Ohshima

[shy turtle]

bro ate too much five guys

😔

[agile lotus]

Unless... https://vxtwitter.com/Sonic_Hedgeblog/status/976192510941908992?s=20

Imagine

[tacit coral]

Superstars DLC...

[agile lotus]

Live service Sonic when

[zealous spindle]

Superstars Plus............

[agile lotus]

Bro like I said, I would unironically like constant expansision packs for this game

[tacit coral]

Roblox tbh

[zealous spindle]

free expansion packs, yes

[agile lotus]

I'd pay for new characters and stages

[zealous spindle]

if this was a £30 release they could justify paid addons

[vivid saddle]

Hyper Sonic DLC….

[zealous spindle]

...it was not a £30 release lol

[agile lotus]

I'm kind of mad that Digital Deluxe buyers did not get Origins Plus

That feels REALLY scummy

[zealous spindle]

kinda wild they put all their goodwill with free stuff into Frontiers and everything else is just#

shamelessly nickel and diming

[shy turtle]

i actually paid £39 for it

jane i will never make the effort to translate prices to different currences ever again

fuck u

bri'ish

[zealous spindle]

ok mr french

[shy turtle]

that's actually an insane ad

[zealous spindle]

h3 irl

[shy turtle]

how do you think would people react if this was made today ?

[agile lotus]

**Bounty Pack: **
Characters: Fang and Espio
Stages: Sunset Park Zone and Aurora Icefield (Battle Mode exclusive)
Battle Mode Skins: Mecha Sonic Mark II, Mecha Sonic (8-Bit Sonic 2, used for Boss Act 1)
Story: Espio was paid a big hit to go after Fang, whilst Fang is going after a piece of treasure. Choose which character to go through Sunset Park Zone, or work with Fang to split the treasure together.

Detective Pack:
Characters: Vector, Charmy
Stage: Botonic Base and Amazing Arena (Battle Mode Exclusive)
Battle Mode Skins: Bomb (used for Act 1 boss), Heavy (used for Act 2 boss)
Story: While Fang goes after Espio, Charmy and Vector go through the abandoned Botanic Base to find something lost long ago.

Mania Pack:
Characters: Ray and Mighty
Stages: Studiopolis Zone and Chemical Plant Zone (Battle Mode exclusive)
Skins: Heavy King (used for Act 2 boss), Heavy Gunner (used for the Act 1 boss)
Story: Ray and Mighty go through Studiopolis Zone, I couldn't think of a story fuck you

changed some stuff from old post before the game came out

[shy turtle]

wtf is that

[short lark]

The Superstars Battle Pass of course.

[shy turtle]

...

[short lark]

[shy turtle]

nvm i shouldn't've asked

[agile lotus]

erm

not exactly

like your not grinding for a skins to then buy it, this is like dlc packs lmao

(although i'd make them free)

[short lark]

I was memeing Freeze 😭

[agile lotus]

If they can't be free, at least make the Battle Mode stages free

(btw the reason I chose Chemical Plant and Bridge Zone is due to them just being able to use reuse the Origins assets lol)

[glad geyser]

Out of curiousity

What's the intent behind wrapping dlc or game ideas ideas etc. with all these bullet points and pack naming and fluff

[agile lotus]

to keep it organised lmao

I was gonna have like the chaotix pack be like 3 characters whilst the "Bounty Pack" was originally the 8-Bit Pack with just Fang lmao

[glad geyser]

But you know the more details you add the more different it will be than what we end up getting so are you just hoping that any single thing from these happens?

[agile lotus]

nah it's just a random idea not a prediction

[shy turtle]

also random thought, but the ost of the second act of blue lagoon reminds me of this https://youtu.be/iKnwVvXkWq0?si=JUhCKjB3s_30LMUv

[glad geyser]

Ok

Cause I was like if we were to realistically speculate on dlc

They're probably just gonna add 2 playable characters, maybe a zone or 2 and then some encore style gimmick lol

[shy turtle]

idk imo it'll just be fang

[long orbit]

so went though Act 2 of Pinball Carnival and stopped at Lagoon City Act 2:

• Music in PC2 was nice, reminds me of something?
• the rollercoaster part was rough, managed it aright but died more than I expected to.
• I like the spooky carnival theme, badniks badly dressed as ghosts got a chuckle out of me.
• enjoyed the theme of LC1, s'nice, nothin' crazy but I liked it. Act Amy reminded me either of something from NiGHTS or B/W - it's ok.
• didn't really play the 2nd Act but damn the music there sounds gooood
• hey did knuckles always have this thing where he needs to do a landing animation after a glide, because it sucks he does

[zealous spindle]

Hey so have we talked about Amy & Trip yuri moments yet

[noble drift]

Its very cute

And now my headcanon is that Amys new hair was inspired by Trip

[zealous spindle]

They’re girlfriends your honour

[long orbit]

really cute stuff

[modest arch]

link?

[late flint]

TriAmy /j

[hoary trench]

Okay, Trip campaign is worse than the main game

Why did they make the bosses even more annoying?!

[zealous spindle]

THIS BUT WITHOUT THE /J

[tacit coral]

Finally booting up the game

[zealous spindle]

When the metaphor is subtle

[tacit coral]

Opening and title screen are great, and tbh I don't mind the music used for the save menu? Especially since it was speculated to be invincibility music beforehand

[tribal badger]

Okay I'll say this. I am liking trip story, but

Fang final fight is utter ass

[tacit coral]

Oh this is a joy to play

Absolutely love how it all feels and looks, for this first act at least

I actually.... don't have much of a problem with the sound effects being lifted from other games so far? I thought it'd be a bigger issue but it all sounds pretty clean in game tbh

Also love how the music for the Sonic 1 special stage bonus stages riffs off of carousel music as well; wonder if there's any reward for collecting all rings in these

[modest arch]

there's no inherent problem with them returning

as long as it's not shrill

[tacit coral]

Eh it's always better for a game to have it's jingles custom made to match the game it's a part of imo, whether that's remixing the existing themes or making new ones

Otherwise you have instances like Reach for the Stars being used in SLW and such

But more importantly the higher bar of the games that make everything match for a wholy comprehensive identity, like Mania and Heroes

[tribal badger]

Yeah honestly I enjoyed it a lot

Only ones I outright despise was the fang fight

The winged boss is annoying but I managed it very well

[tacit coral]

MAGNET SHIELD CAN'T DOUBLE JUMP NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ah yeah there's definitely level design dedicated to the rings in the bonus stage; probably 100 of them earns a coin or something

Eeeeeeh not worth it

Alright let's see the loading

[glad geyser]

Unleashed clears both

[tacit coral]

Little bit of hitching

Barely there tho

[tacit coral]

Hmmm that might be true, I'd have to go back and check

Mania and Heroes are what pop into my head for having a completely cohesive revamping of the game's sounds tho

AUGH NO WHAT IS THIS SPEED UP EFFECT

Special stages definitely have their own element of fun to them; definitely prefer Mania's but this isn't a bad idea either

Am liking how well the second act of BIZ emphasizes small platforms in it's level design as well

Not strictly necessary to use

But definitely useful to reach paths

Oh yeah the bats have absolutely nothing in terms of hitboxes lmao

Divebombing my face and nothing's happening

I do like how the rings have a whole new purpose with the medals themselves

Makes collecting 100s upon 100s of them make more sense than it does when there's just... nothing in place of lives

Collecting them in the bonus stages matters

Collecting them in the special stage matters

Collecting them in the wind tunnel stage matters

And it all feeds back to the level count itself

The game definitely starts to show the cracks by the time the boss shows up

Speed Jungle music

OOOOG THE LEVEL DESIGN

2nd emerald ez

They're definitely Sonic Colors-ing these abilities

Thought for sure the water emerald was in zone 1

boss 2 music

Yeah I can already tell I'm not going to enjoy these bosses

[hoary trench]

and its only getting worse

[tacit coral]

The first fang boss WOULD be a better Metal Sonic race if I could actually understand where his attacks were coming from

• how to avoid the laser

And a better perfect chaos fight

Actually enjoying this a decent bit huh

Haha he tripped

Oh god SJ act 2 is a looping level

Linear level huh

Gold badniks making a return is neat tho

Hmmmm

[last bay]

Been looking up guides to find where they all at, Sky Temple’s is whacky to find

[tacit coral]

Is there a completion rate to finding them?

[noble drift]

https://vxtwitter.com/TeeLopes/status/1714807990312693904?t=v7jP0cvElNSvFnj7iQZcDA&s=19

[last bay]

Yeah it’s for an achievement

[tacit coral]

Ah gotcha, that's cool

More reasons to explore

Hitting the blue missiles for SJ2's boss doesn't guarentee a hit?

SJ2 was alright enough

Better than what I was expecting but eeeeh dunno if it's super replayable

[unique wedge]

It depends on the direction the character is facing

[tacit coral]

Definitely a stage to "find all the secrets in" though

[tacit coral]

Oh I thought it was something more physics based lol

Thought they spider 2.0'd it

[unique wedge]

I thought so too

[tacit coral]

Damn Trip's loud af in that armor

Can hear them coming from a mile away

https://tenor.com/view/big-shoe-lmfao-big-shoe-lmfao-gif-21655557

Ooooooh yeah this next zone is definitely my kind of zone

Shame I can't heAR THE MUSIC

https://tenor.com/view/wind-windy-gif-14972041

[rustic fable]

That would… actually be great

[tacit coral]

Whad do those bug badniks even do lmao

[rustic fable]

Bigfoot’s cousin twice removed, Bigshoe

[tacit coral]

They just.... crawl

Lesser motobug?

Waltzbug

BREAKOUT?!?!?!

[rustic fable]

why the fuck am I so terrible at puns yet go so far when it comes to dark humor

[tacit coral]

Ah boo there's no score for destorying the blocks

[zealous spindle]

ying and yang

also was a pain in the goddamn ass but finally did the final boss

never again 💀

going back for the last two emeralds I missed, is there a trick for finding which ones still have big rings to find or nah

every single big ring I'm coming across is a blue one lol

[tacit coral]

Holy crap this stage is great

Reminds me of the best of the setpiece design of the classics like Wing Fortress and such

And I don't mind the tornado section NEARLY as much as I do in Generations

Probably because of the physics being as good as they are tbh

Super fun stage

[unique wedge]

If you get an emerald in a specific zone, you can't get another

in said zone

But I don't know if you can just check which zones you've gotten emeralds from

[tacit coral]

Holy crap an eggman boss where you actually jump off of rocks that are falling

*upwards

[zealous spindle]

why are they like this

[tacit coral]

The prototypes being in the middle of nowhere are a bit wierd but the commitment to foreshadowing is commendable

Ooooooooooh yeah pinball carnival is definitely a banger

Level design is really fun too

Love being able to read where it's going to send me in a millisecond due to how familiar the tropes are for pinball stages at this point

Kinda semi-modern-sonic in a way?

What with all the dash rings and such

The fireworks are definitely a bit loud

But that's appropriate ig

[agile lotus]

best tracks by tee lopes
yep

[tacit coral]

Can already see this clown boss being one of the most fun to cheese with the bumpers on the sides of the arena

[agile lotus]

I get that he's full but they should've gotten bro to be the main dude for the soundtrack lmao

[tacit coral]

immediately surrounds itself with hazards

hazards need to be disabled

nevermind

[unique wedge]

Welcome to the world of Soupstars bosses

[zealous spindle]

shoutout to that boss being cheesable in the first two segments as Amy, only to go "nuh-uh, no fun allowed sorry" and make it so you have to hit the clown symbols for the third segment

the fun is only on their specific terms, not your own

[agile lotus]

It's kind of the opposite of the Classic boss design philosophy

They might not want you to cheese it but I'd rather have bosses that take like 8-10 hits that can be hit in many diff ways

Egg Shinobi in Mania was awesome boss bc of the defensive aspect and when to strike, you can hit him but he can easily stun you

[tacit coral]

The bouncing platforms are mandantory for the third phase

Pain

Agony even

[unique wedge]

I personally think the bosses are a very big downgrade to.. any other Classic Sonic game

[agile lotus]

There are some highlights

The Fang boss in Golden Capital has like solid ring placements and it's pretty fun if long

[unique wedge]

Well

[tacit coral]

OH COME ON I CHEESED HIM ON THE THIRD PHASE

But the game said

Nuh uh

[unique wedge]

I can say they had interesting ideas, at the very least

[tacit coral]

Bigg porke

[unique wedge]

Some of them are not too bad

[tacit coral]

Every sonic game has intersting ideas let's be real

[unique wedge]

But the execution is only okay at best

[agile lotus]

The Cyber Station boss was awesome

How the robot being your own worked, it didnt take long and I used a lot of diff stuff to duke him

[unique wedge]

That one was neat

Maybe the one in Golden Capital as well, however you have no way to speed that one up

[tacit coral]

I dare not enter the shop

I have seen what it has done to patrons

The infinite abyss that awaits them

[unique wedge]

In the sections where you can't even hit the boss, of course

It is slow

[agile lotus]

There is no individuality in the shop, you can download a 100% save file and not even need to earn everything

I get online isn't a part of Sonic but damn that seemed to have so much potential for poor netcode and lack of content

[tacit coral]

Oooooo I love the wind effect in Sonic's spines, that's EXACTLY how I was hoping they'd be handled

[agile lotus]

sonic anims are sexy in this game

Although I prefer Max's full run over the small peelout

[unique wedge]

Most of the animations in general are sexy

[tribal badger]

The animations in this game is very good as hell

[tacit coral]

No I mean the falling into the void glitch

It's happened like several times to streamers iirc lol

[tribal badger]

Easily one of the main highlight over superstars

[unique wedge]

Visually.. this game is pleasing as hell

[noble drift]

Amys animations are the best

[unique wedge]

I want more

[agile lotus]

Huh

[noble drift]

Her jog is very

Pleasant

[agile lotus]

Did they change much?

[unique wedge]

Yes

[noble drift]

Like a casual stroll on the field

[tacit coral]

Oh wow these pinball designs are getting creative

[agile lotus]

Rafaknight cooked with their initial models

I really like the unique eye shape Amy has

[noble drift]

Her eyes are shaped like a heart

[tacit coral]

Kangaroony 🦘

[unique wedge]

Heart shaped brow

[tacit coral]

Amy's model is fantastic for this yeah

Haven't encountered her yet tho

3rd emerald down

Btw I think this is hidden tech

[unique wedge]

I find it funny I have been doing everything but finishing the Single-player campaign in this game

[tacit coral]

If you let go of the grapple before reaching a bomb

[agile lotus]

Do ya'll think they should take some notes from the animation/models for the next game?

[tacit coral]

You bounce off it

[agile lotus]

Yes or no?

[unique wedge]

Multi-player kinda got me busy

[tacit coral]

Rather than exploding

[unique wedge]

Hell yea

Why not?

[agile lotus]

I honestly kind of want to see a rebrand but I've talked about it to death but I'm not gonna bother

But if there was something, I'd want to take way more ques from Classic Amy to Modern Amy

Those heart shaped eyes are so cute

[unique wedge]

Every character looks great with their new models/textures and especially animations

[tribal badger]

The heart shaped eyes fit so perfectly over amy

[agile lotus]

Someone did this to Knuckles' model

[tacit coral]

ROLLING IN A HALF PIPE WORKS

[agile lotus]

I wanna see what happens if someone heavily distorts Classic Sonic's model to end up with Modern Sonic

How would that look?

[unique wedge]

Yea, can I not lie about this, though?

[agile lotus]

Sure lmao

[unique wedge]

Why are his socks so weird

[agile lotus]

His gloves are still too big

[agile lotus]

Honestly fair yeah, it's not perfect

[tacit coral]

Platforming be going so fine

Then suddenly

[agile lotus]

But I like his face and tings

[tacit coral]

Boom

Fire

😔

[unique wedge]

This is not really about to do with that specific model

[long orbit]

it feels goooooooood

[unique wedge]

But that's just Modern Knuckles in general

His socks are not treated as socks

[tacit coral]

IM BEING JUGGLED BY KANGAROONIES WTF

[unique wedge]

And I hate it

[tacit coral]

WHO PUT THESE WANKERS IN THE MIDDLE OF A CARNIVAL

[long orbit]

gotta say I'm loving some of these new badnik designs

[tacit coral]

Oh yeah I am LOVING these badniks

[agile lotus]

They aren't socks lmao

It's like how Classic Sonic has boots

[tacit coral]

Finally killed the other roony and am able to get a good look at his buddy

[long orbit]

You're in Act 2 right?

[tacit coral]

He's buggin

[agile lotus]

and modern sonic as well they both have boots

[tacit coral]

Ye

[long orbit]

dude have you seen some of the badniks dressed as ghosts, it's such a funny detail

[unique wedge]

Okay but this doesn't change that it looks strange and I dun like it!

[tacit coral]

Yep looool

[unique wedge]

I couldn't stop thinking about it when I first noticed

[tacit coral]

The roonies aren't feeling festive tho

Shame

[long orbit]

true..

maybe next game. bros...

[tacit coral]

I am LOVING this level design

This is how you do traditional platforming in a Sonic game right

Don't need any Lost World funny business

Or Colors blockiness

Just some proper pinball action

[agile lotus]

Someone gets it lol

[tacit coral]

It's so funny because pinball platforming is basically nonessential in Casino Night Zone specifically

The fastest way to finish the stage is by ignoring it

[agile lotus]

Got the model sheets that people in this server dont like lol

[tacit coral]

But Pinball Carnival just says "Nope"

"Here's some secrets and high routes you can only reach if you can solve this pinball-y puzzle"

And lets you go wild with it

Oh what the hell is this boss

HE'S GOT THE GOBLIN GRENADES

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-green-goblin-tobey-maguire-grenade-pumpkin-bomb-gif-26756291

The waiting suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks

So bad

Oh wait I can hit him during the goblin bomb phase

Nice

Sonic flushed himself

Oh

👀

Oh this music

Hitting the boss this early feels like Forces syndrome

Just when I was feeling like the stage was kicking into high gear...

That's it

And there goes trip

[hoary trench]

https://youtu.be/B7ywLOzVmbA?si=h6pmXxvpyQVSkjZU

[unique wedge]

Honestly

Yea..

That happens with lagoon city

[zealous spindle]

tfw still haven't completed this boss as intended as you can just mince the fucker as Amy lol

funni double jump wins again

[unique wedge]

I think this is the stage we are talking about?

Or not

[zealous spindle]

talking of mincing things

doing a funni

[tacit coral]

It is yeah

I'm on the act amy now

I see the fruit counter in the bottom corner though and I am taking my time npw

Dunno if that

's intended or not

[unique wedge]

The fruity act is strange

[tacit coral]

Omg hitting the watermelon guy gives a combo

Omg seal badnik

https://tenor.com/view/seal-dance-seal-dance-animal-animal-dance-gif-27375218

Found the special stage

[modern pebble]

Did anyone else manage to unlock Act Trip?

[unique wedge]

The what

[tacit coral]

Fourth emerald

First try

Water unlocked

https://tenor.com/view/drink-water-gif-14255645

[unique wedge]

Apparently people struggle the most with the fifth emerald

For some reason

[tacit coral]

👀

Why am I pushing so many strawberries

Imprisoned strawberries

....

What mischief did they cause

Trip Escort mission

Finally proving that Sonic could have carried Elise backpack style all along

The fruit is out for revenge

OMG it's finally true Amy gameplay!

No spinball!

No speed

All momentum!

( )

And thus the trend of fruit acts being the worst acts in Sonic games continues

Apple

🍎

[modern pebble]

just letting everyone know i made #1164392495807991918

[tacit coral]

I've just been vibing to act 2's music for a good minute and a half now

Noooooo the water wisp ruins it

Great, the hydrocity bubbles are back

SCUPA SUIT EGGAN

SCUBA SUIT EGGMAN

Oh yeah these zones are making me feel like this is the SLW we should have gotten all along

Ruins in the sky with striped vines

Deserts with zig zag patterns

Even the jungle could be said to be similar in some ways

But these are just executed way better

CONDOR HAMMERS

HE'S HERE

[toxic canopy]

replace the r with m

[tacit coral]

No time for that spectre...

He's arrived

[toxic canopy]

Yea that’s me

Specter21

[tacit coral]

Omg

GIANT STONE SLABS

[toxic canopy]

We all have a…

https://spotify.link/wktNVznT0Db

[tacit coral]

Eggman construction is such a pain in the spinball

[tacit coral]

You should split off tbh

You're too good for them

That way, you can finally say

https://open.spotify.com/track/7GWH6zYHPuV5Z4YTUHsS5y?si=c5a3ca8879c04718

[toxic canopy]

Yea, but you have to understand…

https://spotify.link/ZHe7yHLT0Db

[tacit coral]

5th chaos emerald

first try

[tacit coral]

I see. Dispite everything that you may understand...

https://open.spotify.com/track/7DvB3bd4xMTXPM5CJBg1oc?si=0110a7180d1d4021

[toxic canopy]

And yet, through all of this…

https://spotify.link/tU4EPVaU0Db

[tacit coral]

THE PRESS FACTORY PRESSED ME

First crusher death

[toxic canopy]

The Peg Factory 🤤

[tacit coral]

"Sonic, it's time for your daily crushing"

Holy shit orangutan

Look at him gooooo

Guess he was just chicken after all

[zealous spindle]

Oh yeah uh

was this supposed to happen lol

[modern pebble]

nope

[zealous spindle]

Good quality videosgame

[modern pebble]

did you also see that you can unlock boost gameplay in that sequence

[hoary trench]

Indeed with is quality audio balancing

[modern pebble]

#1161789260752490586 message

oh wait thats the wrong video

oh well

[hoary trench]

My discord straight up crashes on my phone when trying to upload a video here 😭

[modern pebble]

but yea you shpuld watch that one too

[hoary trench]

Lol

[modern pebble]

oh here it is https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1161401022707683378/1163997929967734894/boost_gameplay.mp4?ex=65419c8c&is=652f278c&hm=e5cdd8ad673b1c00568438eb3e58cb6d7aab50a6b8f17546bbae0c39b6b2749a&

[tacit coral]

Love the commitment they have to setpiece sequences with this game

The presentation could be better, but it's the thought that counts tbh

Didn't I already save the walrus?

Could have sworn that he was sleeping earlier in the hub

Ah yes

My favorite Sonic zone

https://tenor.com/view/el-dorado-24kgoldn-the-map-to-el-dorado-song-the-secret-spot-el-dorado-the-secret-place-el-dorado-gif-24388772

[toxic canopy]

The El firado dound track gies crazu

[tacit coral]

Oh no not the bees

Aaaaaaaaaauuaauahggh stOP

I'm upside down...

But El Dorado isn't located in austraila...

Ok I have to stop

This stage

Is possibly the most annoying experience I've ever had with classic Sonic with audio

Outside of Forces maybe

[modern pebble]

LOL

[tacit coral]

But

[modern pebble]

what level

[tacit coral]

Even Forces has sfx that

Don't make me want to blow my brain out

[tacit coral]

Golden something

Act 1

[modern pebble]

LOL golden capital

Let the nosedive BEGIN

[tacit coral]

Golden Capital yeah

.....

Oh no bros

Not like this

IT WAS SO GOOD THOUGH WTF

Now I'm hearing ghosts in a stage that has no ghosts

And whistles from bees

And the most grating midi track ever concieved

It's not midi but

Synthetic

Nope that's not accurate either

Point is I'm annoyed out of my skull rn

This

THIS

This is the auditory mess that I was afraid of

Nope gotta pause again

THE LEVEL DESIGN ISN'T EVEN GOOD ANYMORE

WHAT

THE

HELL

The "pinball" puzzles are jank as hell and the platforming is some of the least inspired platforming I've ever seen this side of fangames

Ok I gotta get out of here

Which way's the exit...

[modern pebble]

This will be T Deleter in 1 hour

[tacit coral]

PIGGY BANK STEALING MY RINGS TO TOP IT OFF

Greedy pig

[tacit coral]

Nooooooo noooo... the stages before this are all good... outside of the water stage... and maybe the press factory....

[modern pebble]

that’s 2 whole zones lol

[tacit coral]

I haven't tried the emerald powers out though! I might not understand them!

[modern pebble]

Oh you haven’t? Not at all?

[tacit coral]

Maybe once or twice off and on

[modern pebble]

Hmm… kinda adds to my narrative

[tacit coral]

Oh fuck trip got kidnapped

One sec

More golden capital...

But at least I'm playing with Knux now

Should add SOME variety

6th emerald

first try

[modern pebble]

How was the 5th

[tacit coral]

Not too bad

I encountered it in a medal stage first though

So kinda got a feel of what I needed to do

And just get ahead of it by going sideways

Okay the level designers REALLY ran out of ideas by golden capital

Jesus

aaaaAAAA STOP POPPING BUBBLE WRAP IN THE BACKGROUND

Worst zone in the game

Worst zone

Hands down

[toxic canopy]

someone get this man a cyber station QUICK

[tacit coral]

Well

Act Knuckles is finished

But

[boreal mirage]

[tacit coral]

Trip has not been saved

Oh cutscene nvm

Epic door knock knuckle

[modern pebble]

that level is ass though??

[tacit coral]

Wait

WTF

[toxic canopy]

It isn't???

[tacit coral]

I DON'T GET TO EARN THE 7TH EMERALD?!?!

HUH

[modern pebble]

dawg...

the level itself is aight but

that boss is not a good way to cap off such a long and tiring stage 💀

[toxic canopy]

The stage ends before the boss wdym 😁

I always leave the stage before the boss 🔥

[tacit coral]

Omg

[modern pebble]

exactly

[tacit coral]

Act 2's music

Is what the first act should have been

....

This does NOT fix the sfx however

[glad geyser]

How hard was the "we want hard games" mantra spread around sega offices over this past year I wonder

[modern pebble]

why wasn;t it "we want good games"

ffs

[tacit coral]

RUBBER BAND AS TIGHT AS A GUITAR STRING AAH BUMPERS?!?!

[glad geyser]

Because that would require

The true SEGA Samuel

[modern pebble]

Talent

[glad geyser]

Yeah that

[toxic canopy]

what did he meant by this

[tacit coral]

THE ORANGE ROLLERS

[glad geyser]

Yeah idk

[toxic canopy]

you coulsve condenses this into 3 words or less...

I'm not gonna even fix that

💀

[tacit coral]

"TWNGH"

[glad geyser]

I think only now are they starting to figure out where to get passionate people to make Sonic games

Lol

[tacit coral]

"TWNGH" "TWNG-" "TWNGH" "TWNGH"

Oh

Right when the level started to get good

Autoscroller

[glad geyser]

Is it sad that I'm looking more forward to whatever Kishimoto's team will do next 💀

[zenith kettle]

Not really?

[glad geyser]

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't touch anything he makes that doesn't have Sonic on it with a 10 foot pole

[tacit coral]

I'm going to have an aneurism

[boreal mirage]

Would you say is hard or rather annoying

[glad geyser]

Drink water

[boreal mirage]

[modern pebble]

no

actually

[glad geyser]

The "no checkpoints" mantra

[modern pebble]

somewhat yeah, it is indicitave of the Current State of Things

but

it is what it is

cant dwell on it for too long

[tacit coral]

Oh

[glad geyser]

It's weird

[tacit coral]

That's the Yoshi's Island water monster as a lava wave

[glad geyser]

They could make something good

I feel it

[boreal mirage]

Maybe is not always about the chef but the ingredients....

[glad geyser]

But at the same time I see so many legos

[modern pebble]

i've had far less fun with superstars than i did update 3, and i expected to like superstars more

like straight up

all apathy aside

i felt that if i actually bothered to buy it, i'd at least like it/think its really good

but thats not what happened

[tacit coral]

floating checkpoints

[modern pebble]

anyways Tobe please check lobby2 i tagged u for a reason

[glad geyser]

Yeah I saw that it was Trippy

[modern pebble]

Trippy???

[tacit coral]

FINALLY

NO MORE GOLDEN CAPITAL

Beautiful beautiful gray

Ok fang what else you got

Megaman X ass boots