Hi
#Sonic Superstars (spoilers)
knotty shoal
honest patio
He can krill himself for allat
agile lotus
Sounds like an issue not an ish-me
rapid shuttle
Bruh, my brother was next to me when I first got the speed shoes in the first zone and we burst out laughing
HOW DID THEY GET AWAY WITH THIS?!
zealous spindle
where’d that @ go 
balmy cipher
Simple question, does something like this happen in the game?
rapid shuttle
where’d that @ go <:wallace_unpog:863238181632737301>
I said something dumb, dont worry about it
rapid shuttle
Simple question, does something like this happen in the game?
In the final story
toxic canopy
cooking ⁉️
crude kelp
Simple question, does something like this happen in the game?
The fight with Venom was so cool
toxic canopy
rapid shuttle
Still thinking about this
https://youtu.be/ki9xbFMg_zM?si=qd4L9_Lm5-jD2hIJ
noble drift
Nevermind, i was wrong, the game will release at 12pm tomorrow 
rapid shuttle
No one:
Not a single soul:
Super Trip:
tidal isle
Lol
short lark
No one:
Not a single soul:
Super Trip:
Holy shit her Dragon form does have a little bit of Toothless energy.
I like it even more now.
tribal badger
she really does LMAO
rapid shuttle
Damn, I just someone get mad that Trip doesnt look enough like a Lizard
boreal mirage
D:
honest patio
This is actually so awesome
thanks! 
noble drift
Oh yea i find very funny you went to redesign trip and ended up drawing a very high quality drawing
Of her normal design 😭💀
honest patio
I got distracted 💀
rapid shuttle
oh yeah, they also pointed out how her spindash doesn't make sese because Vector's Spindash looked like that because he was lankey, but Trip isn't like that so it doesn't make sense
fickle burrow
oh yeah, they also pointed out how her spindash doesn't make sese because Vector...
i mean her spindash makes more sense imo bc you can actually see her in donut shape in her normal jumpball lol
also like yeah spinballs generally arent very realistic
noble drift
Her tail makes it work
fickle burrow
yeah
rapid shuttle
agreed
late flint
Posting this here for obvious reasons, but Korone and Mio (a.k.a MaxDOG) will be playing the game starting tomorrow morning at 6AM EDT
toxic canopy
what if I hijacked the stream and played super Mario wonder
unique wedge
Anything can be reality
tidal isle
Posting this here for obvious reasons, but Korone and Mio (a.k.a MaxDOG) will be...
Our embassador sure commits to the bit, she has her own Shadow now 
honest patio
what if I hijacked the stream and played super Mario wonder
Yes
the traitor deserves it ‼️
unique wedge
Soupstars release in approximately 12 hours
late flint
Out already in Japan! 🇯🇵
https://fxtwitter.com/sonicofficialjp/status/1713932823336505558/en
unique wedge
moment
late flint
As expected, day one patch
modest arch
MUSIC WISE?!
who said there was a music patch????
zenith kettle
Okay, so I didn't imagine 1.05 existing, cuz apparently PS4 had that update for a couple days now
tribal badger
It'll just be bug fixing at best
zenith kettle
Also activating DLC maybe
honest patio
memories of people thinking sonic forces was going to have to patch in a super sonic final boss
fickle burrow
||ive been playing this longer than it took me to beat the master trial help||
noble drift
||playing the fang boss? Yea i heard horror stories||
honest patio
||Are you talking about robo fang? 😭||
fickle burrow
||yeah 😭 ||
honest patio
HDHDH
fickle burrow
||dude i only got to the third phase ONCE||
honest patio
ok so it wasn’t just a skill issue on my part
fickle burrow
||my mashing isnt fast enough||
honest patio
omg bobnik happy birthday
noble drift
||honestly it doesnt even look that hard from footage but i wanna see why it is so hard aside the one hit kill||
fickle burrow
||its hard bc of the one hit kill mostly||
||never died from having 0 rings there||
honest patio
||The first phase is pretty easy once you understand ||
noble drift
||man, i get that is kind of a cool attack but people are not gomna like that||
honest patio
||Fuck the second phase and his cork gun||
noble drift
||im afraid that one attack is gonna ruin the game for many||
fickle burrow
||i actually find the second phase overall easier i think personally?||
||its def not ruining the game for me, i wouldnt even say its a bad fight
its just hard||
||also waiting for attacks is def too long in this fight||
modest arch
noble drift
fickle burrow
||do yall think putting on frontiers titan music will help||
tribal badger
||Go for it||
noble drift
Soupstars release in approximately 12 hours
You sure of that?
unique wedge
shy frigate
I hope they add a skins separate download
noble drift
I guess it is cuz of the japan release just now
late flint
Achievements / trophies are out hurray
noble drift
Can we see?
balmy cipher
https://youtu.be/ForiPOl31eU?si=cfrVGUqGU07XdOpV
Wonder what type of wallpapers are available after unlocking Trip’s Story
Or if the wallpapers change at all after unlocking her scenario
zealous spindle
||https://www.playstationtrophies.org/game/sonic-superstars/trophies/||
forces achievement flashbacks.........
fickle burrow
||i was literally 1 hit away 
||
noble drift
NOOOOO
zealous spindle
also got to pinball carnival act 2 atm enjoying most of it so far and less so other bits
(mostly the bosses fuck ME these bosses are boring as SIN)
fickle burrow
are you using stuff like burst
you can cheese most of the early bosses pretty easy with emerald powers
makes them nicer
zealous spindle
are you using stuff like burst
occasionally so, albeit not all the time cos Amy's double jump coming in clutch lol
its less so landing the hits and more the constant "here's a lil cutscene to show eggman preparing an attack" stop-and-start that just, destroys the pacing completely
like yeah mate alright I get it you fly downwards to crush this floor and activate the big fan, only the third time you've done the same thing
fickle burrow
yeah i def think they need to cut down on that
ESPECIALLY on the boss im at
like usually i dont mind it that much honestly
but here
nah it sucks
hoary trench
<:wallace_unpog:863238181632737301>
Oh fuck no
zenith kettle
Just beat 34 bonus stages, ez
magic raptor
Oh yea i find very funny you went to redesign trip and ended up drawing a very h...
Because her design is peak
noble drift
So true
fickle burrow
||i think ive been playing this boss for longer than ive been playing like half of trips story in total holy shit how hard is the true final boss ||
modern pebble
but maybe longer breaks would work
my strategy when it comes to stuff like this is to take a break by playing a completely different game for a day or so
and then coming back to it
i feel like that completely refreshes my brain
honest patio
||i think ive been playing this boss for longer than ive been playing like half...
||im gonna be honest not nearly as hard||
fickle burrow
oh thank god
noble drift
Get all emeralds beat story mode and trip story
noble drift
oh thank god
GGS
balmy cipher
Get all emeralds beat story mode and trip story
ah
2/3rds done then
welp
time to enter Trip hell
noble drift
OH NO LMFAO
agile pawn
A lot of these achievements seem to come from just replaying the game
knotty shoal
oh my
honest patio
penis blaster goes hard
strong lodge
Ok random question but what did people think of the green emerald special stage
The one where it goes round in circles
fickle burrow
i thought it was hard until i realized it goes in circles so you can just walk backwards and its very easy
it was a moment of "wait no actually there is a proper solution to this i was just dumb" like the second koco trial lol
strong lodge
My issue is even with that knowledge idk if I could beat it first try again lmao
When I replayed it to get medals well, I failed
Bc it also oscillates up and down
fickle burrow
when i replayed it to get medals i did pretty well myself
multiple times
u gotta grind to get the full metal sonic outfit with all blue paint 😭
strong lodge
Biggest fear is losing a special stage and having to find another gold ring
The 7 rings I found were the only ones I found during my playthrough man
No way am I gonna find the rest
noble drift
i thought it was hard until i realized it goes in circles so you can just walk b...
OH COME ON
hoary trench
i thought it was hard until i realized it goes in circles so you can just walk b...
HAHA
Thats actually hilarious
rustic fable
!xp 10,000
noble drift
Egg Wyvern vibes
zealous spindle
HES SO GOOFY I LOVE IT
tribal badger
BRUH LMAO
modest arch
LOOKIT HIM
have you found lego sonic?
i remembered some outlets saying it came included with every copy of the game
would be a perfect match
zealous spindle
have you found lego sonic?
not yet, nah - presumably he's getting listed tomorrow
toxic canopy
Ok random question but what did people think of the green emerald special stage
Did it in first try after i activated my primal hunting instinct where i thought what i would do if my prey was being hunted
deft pulsar
bro think he the wolf leader
toxic canopy
bro think he the wolf leader
who even are you 💀 😭
deft pulsar
bro sayin this like he aint the clone of me
tidal isle
Random thought I had. Trip's voice should be like P3 Fuuka
strong lodge
hmm maybe Frontiers set the bar high with its own OST but is that it
fickle burrow
didnt the mini frontiers ost also only have like 10 tracks
strong lodge
had a look, 25 songs
fickle burrow
oh
strong lodge
i think they could've included some of the battle mode stuff, those songs are neat
fickle burrow
i think thats kinda equivalent to that relative to the frontiers ost as a whole tho
fickle burrow
i think they could've included some of the battle mode stuff, those songs are ne...
true any of the officially released tracks should be here
strong lodge
tbh i'm just impatient for credits
maybe those will give me clues about Sonic 3's credits (or not, who knows)
since Maeda is on Superstars and he was one of the many folks who did 3&K's music
tribal badger
Inb4 sonic fans were shitting on the wrong guy
strong lodge
nahhh pretty sure they're on the money
hoary trench
fickle burrow
that happened to me on emulator lol
strong lodge
ok i just visited the shop on PC partway through pinball carnival and when i exited this happened
fickle burrow
i think when it happened to me i then just fell off the map and died when i tried moving
tribal badger
https://vxTwitter.com/teedgeeofficial/status/1714199198940242251?s=46&t=VmNWvNBI...
Also something pointed this out https://vxtwitter.com/DoodleDankk/status/1714172057578262946?s=20
It's of course basically the same logic as with Chaos 0, Gaias, and such
balmy cipher
ok i just visited the shop on PC partway through pinball carnival and when i exi...
hfuihuiszhcfuidjxfuij
how the fuck did that happen
honest patio
https://vxTwitter.com/teedgeeofficial/status/1714199198940242251?s=46&t=VmNWvNBI...
Oh no it’s beginning to become widespread knowledge that people will inevitably complain about just because
boreal mirage
So
rose salmon
Dude, pinball carnival act 2 is SOOOOOOOOOOO good
rose salmon
Easily one of my favourite classic sonic levels in the entire series
boreal mirage
Is probably just an stylized moon lmao
boreal mirage
tribal badger
Yeah it's still The End, but sealed currently
honest patio
It’s too suspicious close to the foreground unlike anything else, it’s definitely an easter egg
tribal badger
Guess you can say the same logic with Chaos 0 being in the master emerald while being in SA1 altar
honest patio
front and center
boreal mirage
zenith kettle
Got to the final boss in Trip's story
Oh.
fickle burrow
lmao
honestly ur prob gonna beat this before me and i started fighting this boss yesterday 😭
zenith kettle
At least the music's dope
The 1st phase seems easy enough, just gotta be patient, but it draaaaaaags
fickle burrow
||yeah but also bc it drags so much and its so easy to make a mistake and die to the instadeath lasers i barely get to phase 2 and when i do i dont win 😭 ||
||i was literally 1 hit away once and he got me in his stupid annoying web and shot me with his stupid annoying cork gun||
zenith kettle
at least I know your emerald powers recharge between phases
No checkpoint tho, which is insane
fickle burrow
at least I know your emerald powers recharge between phases
WAIT THEY DO
I WAS SAVING UP FOR PHASE 2 THE ENTIRE TIME WHAT
tidal isle
😭
zenith kettle
Okay what the fuck, how many hits does this || jerboa || take?
fickle burrow
zenith kettle
|| I got him to the phase where mecha-fang headbutts the floor after what felt like an eternity trying to hit the badniks/green circle things back at him ||
fickle burrow
||i got there only twice 😭 ||
honest patio
at least I know your emerald powers recharge between phases
THEY WHAT
zealous spindle
hmm maybe Frontiers set the bar high with its own OST but is that it
tee was behind sand sanctuary??
hate to say it but uh
not one of his best that lol
(really tho I just wanna see who did Lagoon City act 2, easily best track in the game imo)
tribal badger
Did anyone found out what Kobayashi worked on?
My copy still haven't arrived yet so I won't know yet lmao
long orbit
I've gotten as far as Pinball Carnival, it's pretty nice so far (Bosses, yeah.. not awful but definitely a bit eh because of the waiting)
I think so far the weakest it felt was the Sky level
zenith kettle
I do not understand what they want me to do with the last story boss
honest patio
fizzle soupstars review dropped #super-duperstars message
modest arch
I've gotten as far as Pinball Carnival, it's pretty nice so far (Bosses, yeah.. ...
same here
noble drift
*tee* was behind sand sanctuary??
We found jane's worst opinion
Sorry but Sand Sanctuary clears most Mania ost
Thats some jake kaufmann beat
honest patio
I forgor what it sounded like
modern pebble
Sorry but Sand Sanctuary clears most Mania ost
Found Henry’s worst opinion, holy moly
noble drift
Im not alone in this one so get 
zealous spindle
Sorry but Sand Sanctuary clears most Mania ost
sending my guy in for a hearing test what are u on about
zealous spindle
locking henry in the hearing test prison
zealous spindle
IDK I JUST GOOGLED HEARING TEST AND GOT THIS
noble drift
THATS SO SCARY
noble drift
@fickle burrow will you let this stand
tribal badger
hate to say it but uh
not one of his best that lol
nah check your ears sand sanctuary is great wym
zealous spindle
praying tee made lagoon city act 2 to counter it
need the best track in the game to counter mid sanctuary
fickle burrow
Is it his turn to fall off???
What the fuck
tribal badger
of all the questionable tracks superstars has, sand sanctuary ain’t it
modern pebble
Look man truthfully
I don’t even remember the music for Sand Sanctuary
Which is kinda the problem 😭
fickle burrow
I remembered it
zealous spindle
also I'm on the autoscroller bit of golden sanctuary
or whatever its called
pray 4 me
noble drift
I don’t even remember the music for Sand Sanctuary
Probably cuz the sound mixing is disgusting lmao
fickle burrow
That track is my fav in the game
noble drift
The buzzsaws drown out the music
tribal badger
I don’t even remember the music for Sand Sanctuary
then go listen to it again cause it’s the last track of superstars i gave a fuck about until reaching cyberstation
modern pebble
Literally no recollection of that zone entirely other than “there was no level design in act 1”
fickle burrow
That track is like the main reason I ended up spending hours making this 😭
modern pebble
and that it’s the most plain and visually uninteresting zone in the whole game
fickle burrow
Literally no recollection of that zone entirely other than “there was no level d...
It was 1 act
modern pebble
It was 1 act
damn see I didn’t even remember that
tribal badger
I don’t even remember the music for Sand Sanctuary
how much music in superstars in general do you even recall just wondering
modern pebble
how much music in superstars in general do you even recall just wondering
Golden capital, fang boss fight theme, whatever the music in the final zone is, the final boss music, speed jungle, bridge island, special stage, bonus stage, press factory, pinball carnival
zenith kettle
Sand Sanctuary is dope, what are you all on about
modern pebble
Off the top of my head
fickle burrow
I slightly prefer act 1 of pinball carnival but both are bangers
strong lodge
Probably cuz the sound mixing is disgusting lmao
...what
fickle burrow
Sand Sanctuary is dope, what are you all on about
It's just David 😭
strong lodge
oh the level
noble drift
It's just David 😭
And Jane
fickle burrow
Wait what I didn't see that
tribal badger
Golden capital, fang boss fight theme, whatever the music in the final zone is, ...
how the hell do you remember what golden capital sounds like that is the most mid track of the entire ost
noble drift
😭
modern pebble
how the hell do you remember what golden capital sounds like that is the most mi...
I exploited it to constantly retry special stage 7
knotty shoal
why does trip's story look dim
fickle burrow
I did special stage 7 first try lmao
tidal isle
Sand Sanctury good. Also everytime I hear it I unconciously keep expecting for the Shantae leitmotiff to sound lol
honest patio
I did special stage 7 first try lmao
Same
noble drift
why does trip's story look dim
Why is your screen red
honest patio
The only one I had to try multiple times on was 5
The green emerald
I exploited the special ring in lagoon city
knotty shoal
Why is your screen red
Idk but it looks normal when I go into a stage
fickle burrow
The only one I had to try multiple times on was 5
Same
strong lodge
have any of you tried progressing through the star post stages
those are legitimately fun as you find more of them
and you only need to get one of the medals to go to the next one
late flint
Thought they could speed run as Tails and the game was like "we can’t catch up to you" and decided to noclip everything
fickle burrow
have any of you tried progressing through the star post stages
yeah i already looped through em
pretty neat to see them add more gimmicks to that concept
tribal badger
it’s a bit goofy, but i actually don’t mind this one
it sounds more like sonic 2 vibe
like actually pleasantly sounding classic genesis music
fickle burrow
yeah it and golden capital act knuckles both give me sonic 2 vibes and i wouldnt be suprised if theyre the same composer
actually no nvm
act knuckles is way worse i remembered it being better
modern pebble
https://youtu.be/iNxOuxvsKwo?si=j_VvionVnm1I2TBu
this song isn’t bad
the level on the other hand
fickle burrow
no??
modern pebble
absolutely treacherous layout
strong lodge
yeah david's right
fickle burrow
i liked it a lot idk
strong lodge
and i dislike golden capital more but that level is devious
strong lodge
spikes and enemies and more spikes and more spikes
modern pebble
can’t go 2 seconds without getting my ass blasted w/ spikes
modern pebble
u gotta use the time power sometimes
And if I don’t have it?
fickle burrow
uh
strong lodge
if you have it what's the difference
fickle burrow
idk maybe thats why i had more fun lol
strong lodge
most of the hazards are spikes
fickle burrow
if you have it what's the difference
it helps not get crushed at times
strong lodge
oh yeah
the WORST thing that these devs did above all these other issues
is that enemies can still attack you from off screen
modern pebble
They don’t implement mandatory level design that assumes you have a power that you possibly don’t
fickle burrow
They don’t implement mandatory level design that assumes you have a power that y...
i mean i dont think they did it in superstars either???
its not mandatory
it just helps
modern pebble
For example, apparently I’m meant to have the time power when I reach pinball carnival, and that’s how you make the rollercoaster section manageable??
fickle burrow
i got through the stage in trips playthrough without using the time power much
strong lodge
For example, apparently I’m meant to have the time power when I reach pinball ca...
that's not mandatory
modern pebble
no no let me clarify more
so you have these parts of the levels that you need to engage with, right
that is what’s mandatory
but they can be a bit of a problem if you don’t have the power they expect you to
tribal badger
egg fortress act 1 sounds like toriena. she’s uses a very specific descending set of noises in her tracks lol
modern pebble
so oftentimes it feels like the solution is “just have the power lol”
strong lodge
hmm
idk i guess if i were designing the levels i would just make the rollercoasters slower
because the main issue i had is there's no time to react
modern pebble
to the point where it makes me think they designed the sections with the mentality of “oh they’ll have X by this point, they’ll be fine”
strong lodge
but the actual design is telling you all you need to know to progress
modern pebble
because the main issue i had is there's no time to react
Yep
So instead of just making it a more reasonable speed
“Just use the time power you definitely have at this point lol”
strong lodge
is it possible to have it by that point
idk if i've been able to find more than one gold ring per zone so there's no way to have the Slow power by that point afaik
modern pebble
I believe so, but I also believe that the average person won’t have it
Especially since I believe it’s either the 5th emerald or comes after the 5th
strong lodge
hmm yeah
shy frigate
How do I skip Trip's final boss?
strong lodge
on my current playthrough i got Slow in Zone 5 Lagoon City
that's the earliest i can do
honest patio
Tails frozen base is fine, I didn’t run into any issues
modern pebble
How do I skip Trip's final boss?
Ask for someone’s save data ig
zealous spindle
haven't even gotten to frozen base yet 💀
shy frigate
no man I'm on switch
zealous spindle
still on this goddamn autoscroller from hell
shy frigate
honest patio
Oh the fang boss 😭
zealous spindle
its so goddamn TEDIOUS above all else
I know what to do, the game just wants to take its goddamn time til it lets me!!
modern pebble
Well I guess nobody will be forgetting Fang after this game
strong lodge
i will be SPITTING on his grave
shy frigate
Sega is making us want him retired again
strong lodge
no F for this Fucker
shy frigate
in jail
noble drift
I love that for him, he is so terrible
zealous spindle
he should take his popgun and aim it between his eyes
strong lodge
he should give himself an enema
noble drift
||i know once i get to the boss ill just hate this game in general||
strong lodge
i saw that tracker has been spending over 4 hours on that one boss
shy frigate
I wanted to try out the new skins, I said "I'll do it once I beat the boss" after a couple of hours I quit and downloaded the skins, at the cost of losing my progress in the final zone
strong lodge
i saw that tracker has been spending over 4 hours on that one boss
that's longer than i spent
modern pebble
yes
honest patio
Nah
strong lodge
yes
honest patio
This goes beyond fumbling
modern pebble
they were doing that in forces too iirc
shy frigate
for the music?
modern pebble
yes
strong lodge
forces is more authentic because none of it is Sonic 4 style
not even kidding around
noble drift
Jun just knows how to not do genesis really well
honest patio
I’m gonna be real
noble drift
He just did not give a fuck
honest patio
Most of the Forces Classic tracks aren’t bad
noble drift
Why is he the sound director of this game
modern pebble
Most of the Forces Classic tracks aren’t bad
sure
strong lodge
the thing about Forces Classic songs is i think Ohtani did better than Hataya lmao
shy frigate
Most of the Forces Classic tracks aren’t bad
I don't remember any of them, I only remember I despised GHZ
strong lodge
Iron fortress is zzzzz
honest patio
Iron fortress is zzzzz
True
modern pebble
Oh yeah I forgot
strong lodge
i could stake a claim to it being his worst output in SEGA
modern pebble
It was real hardware for the origins music too
strong lodge
the main menu in Superstars is real hardware i'm fairly sure
noble drift
I hope he knows it lmao
strong lodge
but bc we know Jun did it people just call it Sonic 4
noble drift
Yea the menu music is fine
strong lodge
my favourite FM music from the game is probably the battle music by Maeda
it's in the battle mode mix
noble drift
OK we need to talk about this
Why does Amy and Fails feel so much better than Sonic and Knuckles by like
A large margin
Is not even cuz they are easy mode
They just feel better in general
honest patio
Amy and Fails
noble drift
The jump for Sonic and Knuckles feels so stiff and heavy
noble drift
But amy even her normal jump feels something more akin to Mania
tribal badger
I tend to play Knuckles normally, but I guess it's due to well having to deal with gimped jump
With Knuckles he is normally treated to be like the hard mode of the 4
zenith kettle
Finally beat that stupid-ass || dragon ||
Yeah, no, Arzest should not be making bosses, I don't kniw what they were cooking
strong lodge
noble drift
WHATS THAT MOUTH
fickle burrow
shape keys W
toxic canopy
this is more expressive since sonic riders (2006)
zealous spindle
Live footage of me castrating the devs behind the boss battles
shy frigate
we found a way to increase the game's longevity: people will be playing these final bosses for over 200 hours!
rugged copper
People are having trouble with the final boss?
I get for the main campaign and trips story, but I found the true final boss easier than both
Even though it was tedious
shy frigate
I meant both Trip which I'm currently on and the next one apparently
honest patio
I get for the main campaign and trips story, but I found the true final boss eas...
The true final boss is way easier
honest patio
Trip’s boss can go fuck itself
rugged copper
All of them can piss off
modern pebble
spindash revving doesnt fucking work properly at high framerates 😭
modern pebble
you cannot tell me that nobody at the studio tested the game at higher than 60fps
but based on this
honest patio
Especially the pterodactyl
That one was aight, just have to choreograph where you land
modern pebble
thats exactly what mustve happened
rugged copper
Fucker took me so many tries
modern pebble
the spindash fucking SUUUUUUUUUUCKS
honest patio
So true
rugged copper
Spindash is so useless
honest patio
The spindash is useless
modern pebble
yes
honest patio
Oh
modern pebble
u cant charge it properly
honest patio
Still stand by it tho
honest patio
I replayed some of them and have a bit of a higher opinion on them now
Since I was brute forcing my way through them
But they’re still annoying
honest patio
Honestly trying to turn super will make you more mad
Because you lose rings so often
honest patio
I got crushed in the last section while I was super trip
modern pebble
anyways
does anyone else think that super trip is really poorly implemented
like she's a cool dragon and all but
the way she actually plays is not it
tribal badger
it’s the background foreground issue isn’t it
modern pebble
no
honest patio
Actually yes, it’s that too
modern pebble
the controls are rather cumbersome and sluggish feeling
but more than that,
i really don't like the animations at all
rugged copper
She feels like yoshi’s final smash in brawl
modern pebble
like the fact that she just turns into a ball of light for her rolling state is the laziest thing ive seen in a while
doesnt feel at all natural
doesnt look good
tribal badger
modern pebble
also
i have now gotten fucked over twice because the game force reverts you at certain parts of the stage
so itll revert me and i immediately lose all my rings
or it'll revert me and i immediately fall into a bottomless pit
what kind of bullshit is that
makes me not wanna use that form at all
honest patio
I’ve never had that happen wtf
boreal mirage
Damn
zenith kettle
The light ball is whatever, I do somewhat agree in terms of actually controlling her tho
boreal mirage
David mad
modern pebble
the losing my rings part is bc i revert right on top of an enemy @honest patio
bridge island zone act 1: revert and immediately fall on an enemy
modern pebble
bridge island zone act 2: revert and immediately fell into a pit because i was mid flight
i dont see how either of these scenarios are fair whatsoever
or good design
zenith kettle
...You're not pressing L+R, right?
zenith kettle
Oh, yeah, that's a thing
But also can't say I had too many problems with that
Mainly because I didn't really use her super form much lmao
fickle burrow
idk i used it a bit during her playthrough
zenith kettle
No, I mean I used it sometimes, but I do agree that she felt a bit sluggish
And I kinda wanted to do levels at least somewhat legitimately
Bosses tho? Nah, fuck'em
fickle burrow
didnt dislike it too much but yeah she couldve controlled a little better
i really like her animations tho
agile pawn
People are very pissed about the Epic DRM being added to Superstars's steam release, really hope they fix that
agile pawn
140 positive reviews, 120 negative, damn
boreal mirage
Sonic forces...
agile pawn
Seems like Sega fucked up the Steam release
They didn't even tell you the Steam version used Epic Games Servers for the Battle Mode at ALL
boreal mirage
I'm pretty sure it did
agile pawn
200 reviews so far
boreal mirage
In the eula
agile pawn
Maybe as more people play the game it might lean into the positive idk
Personally idc about the Epic Games thing online I already had an Epic account for Fortnite
modern pebble
real
toxic canopy
real
unique wedge
we've seen
strong lodge
if you are super sonic DO NOT jump onto the hammer
you'll get softlocked
(i had 180 rings)
agile pawn
Why is Sega of Japan so stupid
modern pebble
why SoJ specifically
boreal mirage
The fact that forces is the only good PC port 💀
modern pebble
The fact that forces is the only good PC port 💀
nah, even that has a problem where there’s a lack of 360 degree input using controllers
gotta use mods to fix that
honest patio
https://youtu.be/Yl443jucJ5k?si=viZjE2eZIn680nXd the most negative superstars thoughts video I’ve seen so far, but it’s from a hardcore 2D sonic fan and speed runner so it’s interesting to hear him talk about how the game differs in ways he doesn’t appreciate even if I don’t think it’s bad
Also he spoils the entire thing rotten, so
If you haven’t done literally everything, don’t watch it 😭
balmy cipher
Also he spoils the entire thing rotten, so
wdym THE THUMBNAIL LEGIT SHOWS UNMASKED TRIP ON THE TITLE SCREEN
magic raptor
Has anyone done any local co-op play yet?
I’ve only got one controller so I can’t try it
honest patio
wdym THE THUMBNAIL LEGIT SHOWS UNMASKED TRIP ON THE TITLE SCREEN
I mean true final boss shit too
We’ve posted unmasked trip like 20 times in here 😭
balmy cipher
We’ve posted unmasked trip like 20 times in here 😭
I am talking in the perspective of the guy who is playing the game as of today
Like
Just starting out
honest patio
toxic canopy
https://youtu.be/Yl443jucJ5k?si=viZjE2eZIn680nXd the most negative superstars th...
okay but i love 2d sonic more than him and i enjoyed sonic gooberfarts
zenith kettle
expects actual problems
"Super glide is atrocious"
oh ok
zenith kettle
Yeah, all of those complaints so far amount to "they feel different in this game so it's bad"
ok the ghost in time attack not working exactly right is funny
glad geyser
It's a speedrunner's perspective
Although I think usually in these kind of scenarios
New exploits will end up being discovered
zenith kettle
Pretty much, that's why I'm not exactly taking those complaints seriously
Especially not day 1
glad geyser
I think the annoyance is because the "classic formula" is so by the numbers that they can right away tell if changes flow well or not
It does have "first world country problems" energy. lol
zenith kettle
He also called Fantasy Zone bad, so lol. lmao
glad geyser
Essentially anything that involves waiting that can't be skipped
zenith kettle
Pretty much
late flint
He also called Fantasy Zone bad, so lol. lmao
SEGAbits be triggered /s
zenith kettle
and I kinda get it with bosses, those take way too long for their own good
zenith kettle
In normal playthrough most of them are quick enough, it's Trip's Story where they go for far too long
strong lodge
i think bosses alone warrant the speedrunners' wrath tbh
noble drift
At least there is time attack
glad geyser
The moment I saw how long those i-frames were for the first boss and how long the game paused when you hit him, I knew the bosses would be controversial
Cause it looked glacial
strong lodge
press factory's boss can be done quite quickly compared to the others
glad geyser
Thankfully they don't take 8 hits for the most part lol
strong lodge
oh yeah that's a little issue i have, the number of hits is inconsistent
sometimes it's a couple sometimes it's 8 or even 6
and there's no way to know unless you're counting
CD does the same thing but when it's not 3 hits it's 1
and i think if you're speedrunning this game regularly you're gonna have a bad time with one boss in particular
modern pebble
Has anyone done any local co-op play yet?
Yes, I beat the whole 2nd half of the game that way
rapid shuttle
was playing with friends,we got the whole squad in here
long orbit
just normal things
honest patio
Wtf is this thumbnail
tranquil harbor
hi
honest patio
hi
tranquil harbor
sonic sudper cars
tidal isle
Wtf is this thumbnail
Ew
Lol just saw a streamer do the infamous green emerald in one try
glad geyser
Wtf is this thumbnail
toxic canopy
this guy gets it 🔥
glad geyser
Can you imagine how successful Sonic would've in if his eyes originally had a small green spot in them
high schooner
Popping in to make sure ,can only one special stage ring be found per zone?
noble drift
No there are various
But if you get an emerald in a zone you can only get another in other zone
agile lotus
Knowing that Tee made sand sanctuary made me scared
One of the best tracks in the game
Hop off goat
rapid shuttle
honest patio
One of the best tracks in the game
hoary trench
This was pretty cool to pull off replaying that stage
honest patio
noble drift
Thats actually very funny
noble drift
Honestly the more i play superstars the more im like
Yea im good at it
Yea i can beat the bullshit
glad geyser
Would be hilarious if they actually reused that Sonic 4 moon model for Frontiers
noble drift
But that dorsnt make it necessairly good
glad geyser
It looks very similar
noble drift
Like i love this game, really do
But honestly is no more than a 7 if i think critically
And you know what other game i felt the same? Frontiers lol
shy frigate
I finished the game with the true ending
Actually, this time I got Fang at first try, god that was satisfying
Screen ko
The 3rd final boss also took a while but mostly due to lack of rings, I noticed Amy with item boxes only on my first try though
One thing is still a mystery though, how do I unlock the Nights parts? I assume there is more cosmetics to unlock somehow
I just saw somebody online wearing that and I remembered about those
honest patio
noble drift
True though
magic raptor
Ehhhh, it depends
high schooner
Just beat Press Factory, thank you super form 🙏
magic raptor
like some games have singleplayer but you’re meant to play multiplayer to get the most out of it
honest patio
Just beat Press Factory, thank you super form 🙏
nice job
magic raptor
Mario Party has singleplayer options but you usually feel like a tool for playing it like that
high schooner
Hearing Golden Capital for the first time and my face shifted to one of disgust
Eughhhhh
honest patio
Thing is tho that superstars completely shits itself when playing multiplayer when looking at this stream 😭
Its main appeal there is just being chaotic asf
Not the level design
So in single player, it’s the mode where you’re actually likely to take in the stages actual design instead of the camera flinging itself in every direction possible and characters spawning back in every 4 seconds
tribal badger
Wtf is this thumbnail
for a sec i thought they actually gave him green eyes to show it would be his last classic adventure
wise kiln
This was his final frontier
agile lotus
zealous spindle
right okay
this COCKING main final boss
how the FUCK are you supposed to find out where he's launching the blue missiles
I know EXACTLY what to do but he launches like, one or two out of the million red ones and I keep missing my chance and he keeps repeating his longass attack cycle and
ARGH
modern pebble
how the FUCK are you supposed to find out where he's launching the blue missiles
it is indicated by the order and side on which they're fired
so for example if the blue missile is 2nd to last on the left, it'll fall near the middle on your left
if it's one of the first fired and on the right, you'll have to run far right to reach it
strong lodge
Crazy how all the final boss' mechanics are derived from the other bosses but it's still a pain in the ass to learn
zealous spindle
honestly aside from the missile order (cheers david) its not even that hard to learn, its just
so goddamn tedious to drag through it all repeatedly
its like how Forces had that one classic sonic bit where you chuck rocks at the final boss, except if you had to stop and play tic tac toe between hits
strong lodge
It's annoying because the bosses are well thought out except for all the time wasting bits
At least stick some checkpoints around after each phase or something
short lark
its like how Forces had that one classic sonic bit where you chuck rocks at the ...
Holy shit, no wonder why I nearly vomited when I saw that boss fight in action.
zealous spindle
this COCKING main final boss
good news: got the first phase down pat
bad news: fuck this second phaseeeeeeeeee
boreal mirage
C'mon Jane use the power of friendship to win
zealous spindle
goes in for a hit
not the right window, loses ring
instead of bouncing back like every other thing that hurts in this game, phases straight through the boss into the pit
modern pebble
good news: got the first phase down pat
bad news: fuck this second phaseeeeeeeee...
pro tip: as soon as it starts moving in phase 2, use the avatar ability to get in like 3 free hits on it
modern pebble
the basic pattern is: "unique" attack, then go for (at least) 3 slams, the last of which will leave him vulnerable
zealous spindle
I've been trying bullet but it usually leads to pit hell
modern pebble
do not use bullet as its not worth the risk
and i assume ur just trying to get through it
save that for repeat playthroughs
one of the attacks he will do is this thing where he rotates his arms around in an attempt to hit u
zealous spindle
only bullet i want rn is one straight through my skull
modern pebble
as long as you keep jumping and you're on the rightmost side of the screen, you won't get hit by it
lasers are fairly predictable so i wont explain them
only other attack he has is the """bullet hell""" with electric shocks while the player is floating
simply put, its not that complex and you should be fine
just focus and you'll get thru that
i think those are the only attacks he'll do if you already hit him with Avatar in the beginning
zealous spindle
hope whoever designed this has a death as tedious as this boss
maybe inbetween stabs the killer could go grab a coffee idk
at least this music is one of the certified bangers
high schooner
Cyber Station boss is making me wanna drive a drill into someone's brain
I'm fucking stuck
modern pebble
https://vxtwitter.com/SilviaFoxtris/status/1714187287310049495
ERM... SKILL ISSUE!!!
shouldn't have been standing there
classic rookie mistake
that was obviously telegraphed
they just need to get good
unique wedge
I mostly beat the game with co-op
And uh
This game somehow manages to be one of the least stable Sonic games possible
What were they thinking
wise kiln
https://vxtwitter.com/SilviaFoxtris/status/1714187287310049495
Was this game playtested
short lark
Was this game playtested
Yesn’t
What’s kinda funny about this whole situation with Superstars is I remember some people were gassing up how ““““polished”””” it was on reveal. Good presentation and marketing really warps the way you view things.
unique wedge
I have not gotten to beat the game in single-player yet so I don't know how that is
short lark
It was because some people were obsessed with seething about Frontiers. 💀
unique wedge
Also by the way how is the single-player experience
I think it's probably much less chaotic and more enjoyable compared to co-op
short lark
I’ll fill you in once Black Friday rolls around.
hoary trench
Thank god I wasn’t playing this in co-op
honest patio
Main campaign is enjoyable
hoary trench
It looks like a fucking mess
short lark
It looks like a fucking mess
That’s because it is.
hoary trench
Outside of that, playing it solo. I didn’t encounter much bugs
short lark
Extremely unpolished aspect of the game that they FREQUENTLY advertised. 💀
honest patio
Sam and co are fucking struggling on the cyber station boss rn
Also the amount of glitches they’ve run into in this single stream is comical
unique wedge
Extremely unpolished aspect of the game that they FREQUENTLY advertised. 💀
It was genuinely much jankier than I was expecting
Especially with the camera
It doesn't know who to follow
I think that the only stable part was getting the emeralds
Which is sorta fun, requires some decent co-operation with everyone switching each swing
magic raptor
Man I really want to get the comic book skin but I don’t have a Kroger near me
unique wedge
https://clips.twitch.tv/ImpossibleBelovedTapirDogFace-XH4ai3LhRxZSOd8p
Oh yeah.
This just happens...
It's strange
honest patio
https://clips.twitch.tv/ImpossibleBelovedTapirDogFace-XH4ai3LhRxZSOd8p
The sonic game of all time
unique wedge
This at the top of co-op makes it too hard
boreal mirage
Watching Sam stream 
agile lotus
https://fixupx.com/pukopop/status/1714429299917287720?s=46&t=LGxbUu_qq8-duEkhPCK...
nah you gotta give her a crappy dress that ruins her colour pallette erm
short lark
https://fixupx.com/pukopop/status/1714429299917287720?s=46&t=LGxbUu_qq8-duEkhPCK...
The Modern one looks even worse. The “spikes” on her torso don’t even look all that spiky compared to her Classic look.
short lark
agile lotus
The Modern one looks even worse. The “spikes” on her torso don’t even look all t...
well yeah because the modern sonic model made sonic's quills all flaccid and tubey
short lark
I honestly think Sonic’s quills should be mid-sized rather than extremely long or very short (current model). Think there was some art that was a nice middle ground.
rapid shuttle
https://vxtwitter.com/SilviaFoxtris/status/1714187287310049495
Was in VC with these guy the same day lol
glad geyser
Alright
Huddle up everyone
After having reviewed the ost top to bottom
This shit slaps
People are hiveminding big time against this
A dozen times better than Mania
Like... there's actual variety thanks to the fact there's so many composers and not just one lol
My favorite thing about going through a Sonic soundtrack is not knowing what to expect next, and this delivered that 100%
last bay
deranged
glad geyser
Like if you don't like this ost, you have to genuinely despise the classic games' osts, especially Sonic 3. This was a much better homage than Mania, and if people put their nostalgia goggles and bias in a ditch they'll see that
last bay
mods, banban his ass
glad geyser
Maeda composed so many of the tracks and it's so amazing
But the hivemind wants to go Jun this, Jun that, over like... 4-5 Sonic 4 synth heavy tracks (excluding menu music), 2 of which were for Press Factory which totally fit
I'm telling you, this is gonna be a Sonic Unleashed moment
5-10 years from now people gonna be like this is was great wtf were 2023 Sonic fans high on. what were they waffling
That is all for now
modern pebble
knotty shoal
5-10 years from now people gonna be like this is was great wtf were 2023 Sonic f...
boy if i wanted to listen to this bit crush ass music ill go listen to fnf music
modest arch
Literally no one playing the online?
you just have to wait a little longer for matchmaking it seems
tribal badger
boy if i wanted to listen to this bit crush ass music ill go listen to fnf music
i agree
that music be sounding like
modern pebble
I think there’s a secret brainwash frequency hidden in the ost if you listen to it by itself
Otherwise I cannot fathom how anyone could ever say what Tobe just said
last bay
i think the frequency tells u to jump off a high place
modern pebble
I love all the classic OSTs and Mania’s OST, and can barely tolerate Superstars’
modern pebble
It’s just better music man idk what to tell you
glad geyser
im good
No you have to spend like 2400 more robux on Speed Sim in 2 weeks get back to work
modern pebble
I also think consistent quality > variety of sound
last bay
No you have to spend like 2400 more robux on Speed Sim in 2 weeks get back to wo...
erm no
glad geyser
Really? 😭 did the game get canceled yet
modern pebble
Meanwhile Superstars is Superstars
last bay
Mania just dont miss
modern pebble
And, even if it’s a “better homage”, does that make it a better soundtrack in terms of musicality?
glad geyser
I want to get a read
modern pebble
Like I don’t think it being a better homage makes it sound any better…
glad geyser
Did you listen to the music outside of gameplay btw?
Cause like the mediocrity of certain things can be uh
Distracting
last bay
Mania or Superstars? Cause I only obsessively listen to Speed Jungle Act 1
modern pebble
Did you listen to the music outside of gameplay btw?
no; I didn’t like the music enough to wanna do that
glad geyser
I mean I assume everyone did for Mania
last bay
Mania, I can just boot any level track and have a good listen
modern pebble
Alright but tobe
last bay
yeah
glad geyser
There must be a reason to my words
last bay
you just did
glad geyser
modern pebble
Anecdotal counterpoint
glad geyser
you just did
Hush
last bay
ur reason is that ur being a contrarian, thats my thing
modern pebble
Mania ost had mfs stop playing mid level just to process what they were hearing
It’s that good
I have not seen that happen with superstars so idk
last bay
Etika would be vibing to Speed Jungle and hate life hearing Press Factory
modern pebble
Sometimes im like “thank god I finally finished the level” because some of those tracks were driving me insane
glad geyser
mate by that logic someone could finagle together an argument that Mania ost is better than TSR
modern pebble
it is
glad geyser
Cause that was an ost with a game as a bonus
modern pebble
TSR soundtrack is bumping, don’t get me wrong
last bay
I mean Mania doesnt have the Wall5 remix of Green Light Ride so yeah Mania clears
glad geyser
https://youtu.be/h-6Yy_6bLv4 I really like this one. Very nice "mysterious" undertones
https://youtu.be/OmzbU9j_YIE Monkey Ball ost right here
Good times
glad geyser
https://youtu.be/h-6Yy_6bLv4?si=lPNGzx91P7KvFQN3
Lol literally the first one I posted
It's definitely one of my faves
https://youtu.be/gq2_Evq7a9A this one is very cozy
Reminds me of some jrpg osts
zenith kettle
Lagoon City act 2
glad geyser
https://youtu.be/vRcOI4DbbDE Hydrossity Act 6
glad geyser
Lagoon City act 2
https://youtu.be/-gJO0rolQ3U For you. Somehow sounds retro and modern at the same time
https://youtu.be/34Ud-VfibJ4 all the Toriena tracks are bangers
Like yeah it doesn't go as hard as her stuff in TSR, but it's a banger nontheless
https://youtu.be/Gy-SDov0q2Y They even put a PSO2 track in the game! Phantasy Star games' ost is easily the single most underrated gaming thing in the west.
rose salmon
My favorite thing about going through a Sonic soundtrack is not knowing what to ...
I’d say superstars is at least a B tier sonic soundtrack
There’s a lot of tracks that I really like mixed in with a few that I didn’t
I think the worst this soundtrack gets is with the boss music, feels more like something out of crash bandicoot than sonic
However, the highs are very high
Also, 909 drum machines in a sonic game :0000000
tidal isle
https://fixupx.com/pukopop/status/1714429299917287720?s=46&t=LGxbUu_qq8-duEkhPCK...
The shoulderpads are a great idea, tho I agree a bit with the lack of spikes on the torso criticism.
The only way I can think to get around the limitation of modern girl designs having actual clothes would be giving her sonic-ish back spikes
glad geyser
The first 2 boss themes are
tidal isle
Which would be hilarious considering they dont let Amy have them
glad geyser
Utter horseshit
rose salmon
Utter horseshit
Is my least favourite part of the game
tidal isle
I like the miniboss theme a bit
vast latch
Its a goofy ahh ass theme imo
shy frigate
so how do I unlock the NiGHTS cosmetics?
shy turtle
i dunno y'all, it ain't ugly (that's without bloom, without DOF and not even 1080)
rose salmon
Nah it ain’t that ugly
I think the art style trumps the visual fidelity
I like the colour pallets
fickle burrow
i dunno y'all, it ain't ugly (that's without bloom, without DOF and not even 108...
sky temple is def one of the best looking stages imo
shy turtle
i dunno y'all, it ain't ugly (that's without bloom, without DOF and not even 108...
btw, the game runs at 60 constantly with these settings
well except in scripted sequences 💀
and the very last stage
btw lmfao
since i just played the game without streaming it
and just in my lil chill
it's so much better lmfaooo
shy turtle
i'm legit having a great time with the game
toxic canopy
ALSO REMINDER THAT DROPAHOLIC REMIX GOES CRAZY GRAAAAAH
shy turtle
the level design is so good
toxic canopy
Idk there's something about it that feels different yet familiar
shy turtle
yeah exactly
toxic canopy
Oh wait I just described the game 😁
toxic canopy
the level design is so good
FOR REAL
Like
It feels so fresh and actually interesting
shy turtle
and the physics are becoming better and better
shy frigate
I'm not sure why some people are hating the latter part of the game stages, they are more challenging and fun imo
shy turtle
the only problems i have with it so far are :
jank and weird scripted sequences
lack of story/lore compared to what was promised (need to play trip's story, so that might change)
music ranges from great to mediocre, overall it's aight, which is a shame
some of the bosses have a lot of down time/jank
shy frigate
it even has better final stages than Mania, for example I was not a fan of Titanic Monarch
shy turtle
but the game is really fun
shy frigate
the only problems i have with it so far are :
jank and weird scripted sequences
...
Trip's story sadly doesn't add lore