Sonic Superstars (spoilers)

[short lark]

Cute spiny lizard girl.

[unique wedge]

I don't think so

I remember when they were going to add a vaporwave effect to the music to go along with it

But that was scrapped

[noble drift]

i dont like any new palette even close to the original personally

honestly that would work better

[fickle burrow]

i think the stardust speedway one was neat

not better but it worked bc of the reference

[unique wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq-pLcYWtMo

[noble drift]

why some of the music sounds kind of great

they should have kept it

[honest patio]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-tears-gif-25605273

Yes……

[unique wedge]

I personally think it fits and accomodates with the pallete changes well

[noble drift]

it really does

they should have kept this

green hill sounds like a sunset

chemical plant sounds like a dark night

[tidal isle]

Pretty cute render

[unique wedge]

Something about the 2 combined give all the stages whole new vibes

But why they scrapped it, I wouldn't be sure

[noble drift]

maybe to avoid drugs reference? idfk

bad idea, that would make the encore mode far more unique

PRESS GARDEN SOUNDS AMAZING WHAT

[zenith kettle]

oh no he's back!

[noble drift]

omg is soni

[short lark]

Hello, Random person on random site that I don’t care about and will continue to not care about.

Also players are making clean runs: https://vxtwitter.com/marius_rednblue/status/1713225312278839388?t=oCOdMdEJo7Y0hjFXAvzTbA&s=19

I’m actually really happy to see Amy get great plays in Superstars.

She has a simple but effective moveset and it feels like she’s always been around for the classic games.

[noble drift]

she is the best character to play

[short lark]

Might actually just start off with her when I get it.

[zealous spindle]

oh huh, didn't even realise til now there's no speed shoes music

interesting choice, don't hate it but shame they didn't get a new track in all the same

[modern pebble]

i did

the speedup doesnt sound so good with these tracks imo

[glad geyser]

What was impressive about superstars

[zealous spindle]

did they at least mariokart it and compose quickened versions or is it just

[glad geyser]

You can't leave it hanging like that

[zealous spindle]

track compressed to 2x speed in FL studio lol

[zenith kettle]

Sure I can

|| it's trip's super form ||

[glad geyser]

Maybe he liked the Zavok-ness of it

[short lark]

Trip’s Super form is a treasure.

I needed something like this for years.

[strong lodge]

Nah they just sped up the music, which is a very bold decision with streamed audio tbh

[fickle burrow]

why is press factory act 2 with trip so much more fun than with sonic 😭

[short lark]

Lol: https://vxtwitter.com/ayhabyt/status/1713522596120015055?s=46

[boreal mirage]

That's crazy lmao

[strong lodge]

WHAT

[modern pebble]

Damn, someone got to it for me

I have footage of that recorded as of 2 days ago

Me and Ivy unlocked boost gameplay

[noble drift]

oh thats wondeful

[fickle burrow]

halfway through trips story, i think im enjoying it more than i did the main story, its really fun

she controls so nice

and the level design works so well for her

[noble drift]

thats cool to hear

[modern pebble]

we’re about to become the minority aren’t we @honest patio

[fickle burrow]

gonna call it a night, but uh tomorrow im continuing from golden capital act 2

[noble drift]

i hope trips story is good

[fickle burrow]

But honestly she does kinda make knuckles obsolete

Bc like, she kinda just has a better climb 😭

And the glide isn't that helpful from what I played

They should give him the advance 3 wall spindash to make him less obsolete

[short lark]

Has Knuckles……always been shit in 2D and we just didn’t realize it?

Maybe it was just an illusion

[fickle burrow]

I think he had his alt paths in s3&k and mania which made him neat

[short lark]

I know I’m joking lol

[noble drift]

but now trip is better and amy is better than everyone

https://vxtwitter.com/sonicstadium/status/1713674700822380797

super bnuuy

we went from only male hedgehogs can go super

to super proto bunny

he doesnt fly but hey at least his animations look nice

[short lark]

When even proto designs don’t get the super privilege.

[fickle burrow]

Do yall think we're gonna see trip in a modern sonic thing any time soon

[noble drift]

honestly

maybe????

[fickle burrow]

Or if she has a modern design made already

[noble drift]

cuz they could have struck a better gold for a 2nd female main character

if they did

[fickle burrow]

I feel like she'd slap as a playable character in an open zone game

[short lark]

I hope her base design is more interesting if she does eventually show up in modern. But heavy doubts.

[honest patio]

i don't care if the whole world is against me

trip's story is doodoo

[noble drift]

i'll be the judge of that

[short lark]

Fight them Fiz.

[fickle burrow]

Does it get significantly worse after golden capital or smth

[short lark]

Fight them all.

[noble drift]

im pretty sure it was before golden capital that fiz did not like it

press factory for example

[fickle burrow]

Press factory act 2 with trip was a fucking banger imo, if you time badnik jumps and wall climbing well you can go through it pretty fast

Like she made it way more fun compared to the main story ver

[honest patio]

disagree

it was fun at first

for the same reasons you said

but somehwere along the line it just got annoying

somehwere

i meant somewhere

[fickle burrow]

Not to me

[honest patio]

yeah but to ME

[fickle burrow]

Yeah that's fine

[honest patio]

it's not about you nidio !!!!!!!

self obsessed

smh

[boreal mirage]

Friends, don't fight

[fickle burrow]

I was the one talking about my experience, not my fault David tagged u

[honest patio]

oh true

@modern pebble fuck you

[noble drift]

i see the one who is better skilled :)

[fickle burrow]

Idk I usually am not very good with classic sonic lmao

And I did die a few times

But I really don't mind it with this game

[honest patio]

i did trip's fang autoscroller first try, so me obv

[modern pebble]

no

[fickle burrow]

That part I am somewhat dreading bc it was like the part of the game that took me the longest to do in the main story

Took me longer than the eggman final boss 😭

[honest patio]

it's the same thing but more fire

and lava

i don't think he has any extra attacks

[fickle burrow]

But uh yeah I'm really liking this game so far

Still ranking it higher than mania

Not higher than 3&k yet tho

[honest patio]

for the record, it's not like i don't enjoy challenging level design

i like the tower climbs in update 3, i like how superstars handled it's endgame stages too when i saw people shitting on it

but it feels like someone saw unfair mario and thought it would be funny do that officially

trip's moveset is well made for it but I think they go overboard

[fickle burrow]

So far for me I didn't really feel that way

[honest patio]

Like they get way too comfortable with putting spikes everywhere

[fickle burrow]

They even made bottomless pits less of an issue bc you can climb up them

[honest patio]

pits I can handle

[fickle burrow]

And spikes feel placed in a way that makes sense imo?

[honest patio]

they're not imo

[fickle burrow]

Like they're there to stop you from doing specific things

That would otherwise make the game too easy

[honest patio]

there's a difference between being challenging and just being annoying to the player just because imo

[fickle burrow]

Idk I felt like update 3 towers were much more annoying

Like

Way more

[boreal mirage]

💀

[short lark]

What

[boreal mirage]

Me who did the towers is almost first try

[honest patio]

like bro what is this 😭

[tidal isle]

Yk Im a bit confused with Trip's design cause her clothes(?) are like, the exact same color as her scales and for example, are those shoes or is she wearing gold spikes over her feet ?

[noble drift]

that was not even bad?

you just have to time the spring spin so you dont get hit lol

[short lark]

I finished Tower 2,3 and 5 first go. 1 and 4 only gave me issues because of simple mistakes.

[fickle burrow]

I mean I liked them, I just meant like

I felt like stuff was placed there in a much more annoying way than trip levels so far for me

Idk I struggled a little more with towers in update 3

Tho I will say I did kinda forget that I can parry in the air for a few of them

[honest patio]

it's not, but it's the best way i can show the design mentality in the shortest way possible

it's not challenge, it's just being a prick

[fickle burrow]

But like

The fan one was very uh

Annoying yknow

[short lark]

I’m just gonna go with the black part under her spiked “dress” being clothes as well as the shoes and gloves. If somehow the spiked “dress” is something she can remove I’ll flat out hate the design.

[honest patio]

Update 3's towers also have BS like no checkpoints and letting you fall your ass back down

[honest patio]

dude

fuck that one

😭

[fickle burrow]

I died so many times man

Not died

Fell

Yeah idk I don't find the trip level design as frustrating personally

[honest patio]

great

[zealous spindle]

tbf he doesn't even get name privileges, let alone a super form 💀

[honest patio]

it's cool you're enjoying it

but iiiii did not

[short lark]

True 🤣

[fickle burrow]

Yeah that's fair

[honest patio]

it's also good im not going crazy since david and hamada feel the same way i do

[fickle burrow]

I'm trying to grind a little on tokens with going to the special stages when I see them and all

And I have like 60

That's not a lot 😭

[boreal mirage]

Barak too

[honest patio]

i spent way too long on that final boss for trip tho

may genuinely be a krill issue

i was on that forever 😭

[tidal isle]

Well the thing is if she gets modern'd I fully expect the "dress" to be "replaced" with normal clothes lol

[fickle burrow]

Idk I don't think they'd change such a major part of her design

Like her being in armor is kinda important to the design I feel

[shy frigate]

I don't think Trip will appear for now due to her being a spoiler character

It may take a while

[fickle burrow]

I mean not immediately but like in a few months I think it's gonna be fair game to feature her in anything

[short lark]

If that happens I’ll slander that shit character daily.

You mean to tell me you make a spiky lizard and can’t commit to the spiky part while also not even looking reptilian? Nah, fuck off.

[honest patio]

i feel blessed knowing that i only mildly care about this topic at most

[fickle burrow]

Man I wish the game looked like the animated cutscenes they look so good

[noble drift]

Jay whats your problem with trip Jesus

Even the guy with reptile ocs in here loved her design

[short lark]

She’s bland.

I didn’t want her to look like the standard Sonic template. I was honestly expecting her to stay masked. Looks far more unique that way anyways. Even though she still has the barely reptilian look while armored.

At least her Super form actually looks reptilian.

[fickle burrow]

She still looks reptilian to me lol

Her spikes, the way her scales look

[short lark]

Espio and Vector have spikes, still far more reptilian than her base form.

Though Espio got kinda fucked with his modern redesign.

[fickle burrow]

Vector is also supposed to be a big guy as well as being a crocodile so his design worked for that.

Espio looks about the same amount of reptilian to me, he's just naked lol

Also I prefer modern espio over classic espio

[short lark]

What does being big have to do with it? 💀

You can still be small and have a reptilian shape.

[fickle burrow]

It means that they could allow him to have a different body structure

That fits the specific animal more

Bc if vector looked the way he did but was the same size as like sonic, it would be really odd lol

[short lark]

(Classic) Espio’s body shape was still properly reptile-like with the fused tailed

You don’t have to do it like Vector at all.

[noble drift]

Yea trip looks like a reptile to me

[fickle burrow]

Classic espio is also a worse looking character imo

[agile lotus]

Nah Trip looks way to mammal

[noble drift]

I rather her have a spiky nose too over
Nostrils

[agile lotus]

I'd want a medium, I think both designs have issues yk

[noble drift]

Yea modern espio looks waaaaay better

[short lark]

Modern Espio looks almost recolor-tier

[agile lotus]

Yep

[noble drift]

Classic espio looks super off

[short lark]

Chameleons in general look off tbf

[agile lotus]

Espio looks like fan recolor tier lmao

[noble drift]

Idk what to say

Trip looks exactly like how i would expect her to look

[agile lotus]

I swear there was a fan Espio redesign that was a perfect medium that I want to post

[wise kiln]

For the longest time I thought Espio's horn was a nose

Which just hurts my head whenever I think about it because where is his nose

[noble drift]

Trip has a little horn for a nose as well

Is not a nose is a horn

And thank god it isnt nostrils

I find sonic characters with nostrils real ugly

[short lark]

All Imma say is if she gets modernized and they somehow find a way to just make her spikiness not apart of the design it will be full on shit for me lol.

[fickle burrow]

Why would that happen

[short lark]

It won’t thankfully

But I doubt she’ll be much better.

[modern pebble]

cannot imagine how it’d be any different from how you’re acting rn

[fickle burrow]

All they're gonna do is just make her tall and give her eyes a color

[noble drift]

She already looks like a modern character with the blaze like eyes

[fickle burrow]

Maybe give her soles if they feel like it

[modern pebble]

(and that isn’t a jab, I just don’t know how it could get any more negative lol)

[noble drift]

She is gonna translate into modern sonic pretty much seamlessly

[fickle burrow]

This will be trip in 1998

[modern pebble]

looking pretty lizard like

[short lark]

She really does look like a Proto-modern character.

[fickle burrow]

What does that even mean 😭

[short lark]

I was saying that because Henry pointed out that she looks modern-ish: #1161789260752490586 message

[fickle burrow]

Oh

I mean i don't think she was designed to be a modern character from the beginning

Bc ohshima was designer and he mostly draws classic sonic

[short lark]

Yeah, she definitely wasn’t designed to be a modern character. But I can see where Henry was coming from there.

[honest patio]

All I’ll really say is that I feel like people keep expecting they’ll break the general sonic character design type they’ve established after 20+ years, which isn’t gonna happen

Ik people’ll say “that doesn’t make it good either”, but all I really have to tell you is to respectfully cope because it is what it is after all this time. They’re not gonna do a sudden switch up. 😭

Especially since it’s not something people are noticeably complaining about or think is an issue like other aspects of the series like models and animation

[noble drift]

Honestly its a shame they referenced Sticks instead of Trip at the end of Frontiers lmao

[modern pebble]

why?

[fickle burrow]

Idk

Both can exist lol

[noble drift]

I know

Just that trip is a better character 😭

[fickle burrow]

And also it would technically be a spoiler for an unannounced game lol

[honest patio]

True

[noble drift]

Yea i get it

[fickle burrow]

I just love how silly she is

[noble drift]

Its just that right after she says this we learned she is super friends with a lizard girl from some islands

[modern pebble]

you barely know her

[short lark]

They do it for IDW lol. Rough and Tumble look pretty cool. And Archie wasn’t afraid from time to time. Nobody wants them to massively move away from conventions. Just stop doing the same bland ass shit over and over lol.

[unique wedge]

Going to be waiting for a long while until they even do something with sticks

[tacit coral]

She doesn't look like an IDW or Archie or Fleetway or Honey the Cat characters and therefore she is a good fit for the series *immediately sprints away knowing my safety is now in danger*

[honest patio]

Rough and Tumble still stick pretty close to regular Sonic designs

[fickle burrow]

Trip has really good potential for open zone gameplay I feel

[honest patio]

Archie is a different case entirely since they did whatever tf they wanted 😭

[fickle burrow]

Like, you could do some cool 3D platforming stuff with her abilities yknow

[short lark]

That one Orangutan guy was also pretty cool.

[noble drift]

She is wonderful i love how silly she is

[short lark]

Okay, but are they exact same bland body shape and frame as everyone else?

[honest patio]

erm

pummels you into the dirt

[tacit coral]

No but they follow norms that the other characters have

Like vector or storm

[honest patio]

^

[noble drift]

Honey the Cat looks great to me cuz she looks so different from all others

She is clearly a cameo character

[honest patio]

Like I said, they’re not gonna break the general sonic design type

[tacit coral]

Human hair 🤧

[honest patio]

hop off honey

she’s so cool

[tacit coral]

NEVER

*flees*

[short lark]

So what you’re saying is they followed the standard design conventions while still giving unique body frames

[honest patio]

https://tenor.com/view/die-kill-kills-you-anime-gif-23910501

[noble drift]

Thats totally a wig anyways

[tacit coral]

Archie aah wanna be

[short lark]

Because nobody here suggested breaking design norms lol

[honest patio]

Wasn’t Honey added in the 2011 port

[noble drift]

What do you mean wannabe she came first

[noble drift]

Yep

[tacit coral]

Bc you said it's a wig

[noble drift]

i said that cuz it makes sense for her character

She is a brawler fashionista

[tacit coral]

Honestly beyond that I have more issue with wisper than honey

But idw is favored by the gods so

[noble drift]

Meh design purists

[tacit coral]

Nothing's topping the tweet I saw earlier though

[noble drift]

Dont vibe with em

[short lark]

Honey’s wig is terrible ngl

[modern pebble]

which I will never understand

[tacit coral]

https://fxtwitter.com/Zhane_Star/status/1713414482968641945?s=20

[honest patio]

Archie renders were something else

[fickle burrow]

Nah 💀

[short lark]

Oh nah, that shit on the right looks ugly as fuck.

[noble drift]

NAH

[honest patio]

bro what is this

[unique wedge]

Who is this person

[short lark]

Some archie shit

[noble drift]

Shes wonderful

[unique wedge]

I will gladly take something bland that isn't a monster

[short lark]

Idk nothing beyond that

[unique wedge]

instead of just a monster

[tacit coral]

Lupe is an OG SatAM character tbh

[short lark]

I’d rather have neither.

[honest patio]

you don’t have a choice here

[fickle burrow]

I don't think the design is bland tho lmao

[honest patio]

[short lark]

I do because that character exists in a dead canon.

[honest patio]

I also exist in a dead canon

but look where we are now

[modern pebble]

damn this chat is actually toxic af right now

[tacit coral]

Archie fan detected

[unique wedge]

I assume that's the reason they mentioned the "default Sonic cookie cutter look"

[tacit coral]

*vaporizes*

[modern pebble]

Yeah this is basically what I’m seeing

[fickle burrow]

Ig but it's still 10X better than her satam or preboot looks imo

Especially satam she looks so ugly 😭

[modern pebble]

Dont focus on the actual point attempting to be made
Tunnel vision on the low hanging fruit
Crack as many remarks as possible
Profit

This behavior is a bit too cynical, even for me

[fickle burrow]

Who are u referring to

[short lark]

Wait I wasn’t trying to jab at Archie fans. 😭

[fickle burrow]

I don't think I'm following

[short lark]

That was not what I was doing. 😭

[honest patio]

wait is it really that toxic rn

[tacit coral]

I think he's referring to me

But

[short lark]

Oh

[tacit coral]

I was also being meta

So

[honest patio]

im sorry if i did something but idk im just behaving as usual 😭

[short lark]

I’m not even trying to be hostile I’m just talking. 💀

[fickle burrow]

I'm going to sleep it's almost 3AM

[short lark]

Honest question am I toxic?

[unique wedge]

In general?

[short lark]

Yes.

[unique wedge]

Or like just now

[honest patio]

No but you do come off hostile a lot of the time

[unique wedge]

Uhh

[tacit coral]

We've been gaslit

[unique wedge]

I would say "toxic" is a very strong word to describe somebody so no

You don't come close to the worst kind of people I have seen

[honest patio]

You’re not toxic by a long shot but you can get too much sometimes

But it’s about sonic opinions so who cares as long as you don’t insult anyone

[unique wedge]

You sometimes like trashing on certain things like SA2 a lot when you want, but that's just it

[modern pebble]

yes but it’s also important to remember that there’s a difference between toxic behaviors and a whole person being described as such

[short lark]

Okay so better question, “Was I toxic?”

[unique wedge]

You are right

[agile lotus]

You want me to be honest, from how people are around you, yeah they probably think that.
I don't at all, I relate a lot to you and I like how honest you are about everything, but yeah

Like people think I'm toxic and I just stroll by talking about Sonic it is what it is lmao

[short lark]

Well I mean, I don’t feel as if I am toxic. But maybe it might be better to just frame my statements better. I honestly don’t know, but I appreciate it @agile lotus

[unique wedge]

I still would not consider Jay's behavior close to toxic, at least not so much to me
Jay is quick and doesn't hesitate to express if they are unpleasant with anything and argue. There's maybe at best some toxicity, they sometimes seem to butt heads with some people

[short lark]

I don’t think I actively butt heads with anyone.

[tribal badger]

You don’t have to be toxic to come off that way to other people, it’s all about how you frame your arguments when having discussions with other people. It’s not a matter of repressing your opinion or being less honest with what you’re saying like people might believe, it’s just a matter of being clearer.

That said, I haven’t engaged with you nearly enough to answer that question.

[boreal mirage]

Jayjay ain't toxic he my bestie

[unique wedge]

I did only say sometimes

I don't want to name anyone but it feels like it just happens

[short lark]

[unique wedge]

Overall tho, I don't think you have any ill intent behind your actions or behavior

you just frame arguments and type in a way that doesn't make you look very polite

[short lark]

I guess I’m gonna need to frame my statements in a less abrasive manner.

But I don’t, actively try to get under people’s skin or anything. I just say stuff.

[unique wedge]

I find it fine lol

You could just be clearer and less abrasive ye, but that's it to me

[strong lodge]

I like Trip's design because it seems like Ohshima tried to apply his original design philosophy when creating Sonic himself on a new character all these years later

She's been designed to convey gameplay information as well as personality which ik Ohshima talked about in the video interview as being the most important thing to consider

[noble drift]

i like the justaposition of her helmet look with her normal look

like she looks like a silly goofy thing

[strong lodge]

She's basically reptilian Sonic

[noble drift]

and then it turns out she is just an adorable little girl

design wise

[strong lodge]

But the reptilian part is largely put on her mask

[unique wedge]

I don't really get people asking for different and unique proportions, honestly

[noble drift]

which honestly i am so glad they went for this look for her of being adorable but still not immune to slapstick

[strong lodge]

Shy characters are rare in Sonic games it seems

At least playable ones anyway

If you just look at the mainline games I don't think there are any shy characters besides Trip

[noble drift]

i like her simple and effective growth too

nope

she seemed to be a sheltered guardian of the islands that never really dealth with danger

her helmet throws her off and she stumbles a lot

she is unable to do anything and is basically forced to cooperate with the enemy

[unique wedge]

She is by far the clumsiest Sonic character in general

[noble drift]

until she had enough and tries to fight back

its cool, its a cool character introduction

[strong lodge]

When fang kicked her I lost all love for him fuck that pos

[noble drift]

honestly fang rules lmfao

||he is now like top 3 sonic villains for sure||

||specially with that mecha fang boss like what the fuck this dude hyjacked eggmans base, finished his mecha just to finish off trip, it is fucking incredible||

||it just makes it harder to see him as a morally gray character tho, he is just filled with greed and malice lmao||

||from his joke bosses in triple trouble to 30 years later being the hardest sonic boss ever LOL||

[short lark]

Has she? Her body shape doesn’t actually convey that she can curl or stick to the walls. Her spinball is just her body stretched awkwardly while spinning.

[agile lotus]

https://vxtwitter.com/_EvanM_1/status/1713450149932941419?s=20

[noble drift]

u g l y

sonic characters dont work without something in the middle of their muzzle

[short lark]

But Espio is literally just like that lol

He works fine.

[noble drift]

espio has a horn??

[boreal mirage]

yeah?

[short lark]

It’s not on his muzzle but on the head.

[boreal mirage]

well not in the middle of his muzzle

Ig you mean on top of the nose?

[noble drift]

but it works cuz its like, close

its something

[boreal mirage]

espio so cool

[short lark]

Just wish Espio looked less recolor-like.

[honest patio]

He would look better if his scales were green like his classic version instead of black

[short lark]

#1072257818230534154 message
Trip designs from Mello-Nova:

[honest patio]

Good art

Idk if it fits trip

[boreal mirage]

doesnt really fit sonic

[noble drift]

yea its good art but idk if trip is all that or fits sonic much

[short lark]

Some of them don’t. But some could possibly work just a little softer.

[noble drift]

it looks like it could work for a more... cool mature character? trip is a tiny little girl

[unique wedge]

Spyro if they were in Sonic

[knotty shoal]

Heavily disagree with everyone here. It fits Trip and Sonic, it’s just that Sonic Team insists on having a OC creator template for some of their newer characters.

[honest patio]

Maybe I should redesign trip for the giggles

[noble drift]

would like to see it

also sonic team? Ohshima designed her lol

[knotty shoal]

Don’t care

[noble drift]

oh whatever lol

[honest patio]

Oh. Bb @@I’m m

[knotty shoal]

My point still stands that some newer character designs aren’t as creative as they could be

[honest patio]

Sorry my phone got wet

[tacit coral]

What the

[unique wedge]

Also this is just their head

[tacit coral]

Fizzy....

[short lark]

Well apparently according to the credits Ohshima and Iizuka both had hands in creating her.

[honest patio]

I forgot Ohshima designed her

[unique wedge]

Is there not a body?

[noble drift]

idk whats wrong with trip

she looks exactly as i hoped she would

[short lark]

Idk, they’re just quick sketches by other people.

[knotty shoal]

Nothing is “wrong” with her. More could’ve been done with the idea of a new lizard character

I like Trip’s design but I still think things could’ve gone differently and would be much better for it

[noble drift]

i dont know what could be different though

like, i get that they could make her more lizard like

[knotty shoal]

Literally the redesign above… lol

[noble drift]

not really a fan of it, specially for a character like trip

[knotty shoal]

I know that

[short lark]

I mean I’m not getting the point people make saying “they can’t do that without it looking like Trip” when her Dragon Form is literally not the standard face/head shape/body but still looks timid and cute.

[noble drift]

like if she looked like it it would be fine and i would get used to it

[short lark]

Like I just can’t see why it had to be as is.

[noble drift]

but i prefer what we got

maybe would give her a longer snout

[honest patio]

By chance do you guys remember infinite’s concept art

[unique wedge]

I originally thought that, but when I looked back at the design presented in this channel it does fit her character

[tacit coral]

The thing is the way she's designed, actually matches how cartoonish Sonic characters are with their species' defining traits

[knotty shoal]

I was going to bring up Infinite and how he doesn’t follow regular Sonic character designs but then I remembered he has a mask

[tacit coral]

She has spikes

But

[short lark]

So does the Dragon Form, I mean it’s literally still her.

[tacit coral]

They spiral downward

In a way that makes "hair"

[noble drift]

honestly the only thing i expected is her hair to be like

pointy

[unique wedge]

But at the same time, I think Trip looks very good with the average Sonic character proportions

[noble drift]

otherwise the face is straight up exactly how i expected

[tacit coral]

While also having one simplified point on the top

[short lark]

She’s a reptile though.

[tribal badger]

I do like the fact that trip doesn’t have a black nose

[tacit coral]

And Sonic's a hedgehog

[short lark]

She should be different from the mammals.

[knotty shoal]

The comment of “it’s not trip” or whatever doesn’t make sense to me. If we had gotten a different design people wouldn’t be saying that. They’re already familiar with her current design so of course it’s hard to imagine her as something entirely different.

[tacit coral]

More appropriately Amy's a hedgehog

[short lark]

Yeah, I don’t get those points either.

[noble drift]

why does charmy has a mammal nose

[tacit coral]

bc he's a "fairy"

[honest patio]

I wonder how he would’ve looked under his mask if they went with this

[knotty shoal]

What makes it “not Trip”? Because she’s not cutesy?

I find the redesign to be adorable. I love reptiles.

[short lark]

Charmy at the very least has the bee body so he’s far above Trip design wise lol.

[boreal mirage]

that design was cool

[unique wedge]

It fits, and I don't see the need for a completely new unique design with more reptilian traits to make her stand out

That is probably just me

[tacit coral]

That's because people often associate anthro character design with good design

[short lark]

Same.

[knotty shoal]

That’s fine. I just have an issue with it cause we already have an established reptile character who doesn’t fit the usual build (Vector)

[boreal mirage]

this one still my fav

[tacit coral]

If Sonic was a series that was more traditionally anthro, then Trip would probably look more like that redesign

The funny thing about Vector is that his design got even further away from the template, just in a more simplified direction at the same time

[zealous spindle]

honestly my takeaway from this is less "damn they un-anthro'ed her" and more "thank FUCK they yeeted the potentially iffy cultural appropriation" lol

[short lark]

I don’t see what traditionally anthro has to do with it when Vector is right there.

[short lark]

I love Bearded Dragons they’re so goofy.

[knotty shoal]

She hate me

When she’s on me her chin turns black it’s hilarious

[tribal badger]

That in of itself is why I think people seem to not believe it fits. If they follow a pretty similar pattern of character designs for over two decades, people are going to think that fits Sonic since that’s been around the longest.

[noble drift]

honestly if trip looked like how mello nova drew her

[unique wedge]

Is there a good shot for Trip's super form actually, I haven't seen much of it but it is interesting

[noble drift]

i would be fine with it if i saw it

but i really dont mind the design we got, she is just so damn cute

[agile lotus]

@boreal mirage, @honest patio and @noble drift's thoughts on what Sonic character designs should be

lol

[boreal mirage]

[short lark]

I mean I’m just “okay” with Trip’s current design. It just simply exists to me, her dragon form is the more standout one.

[knotty shoal]

#1161789260752490586 message

Yes and it’s saddening that the pattern can’t be broken for the sake of more creative design.

[honest patio]

what're you coming at me for

[unique wedge]

😭

[zealous spindle]

anyways my take re: designs looking like their animals is that echidnas look like this cheers

[honest patio]

im not gonna be nice to you when you're getting bullied again by 8chan, smh

[tacit coral]

[unique wedge]

Knuckles just like as I remember him...

[boreal mirage]

sonic overall doesnt look like a hedgehog lmao

[agile lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/drones-gif-23526185

[short lark]

Freeze 😭

[knotty shoal]

LMFAOOOOO

[boreal mirage]

LOL

[honest patio]

this is what i get for saying opinions..................

[noble drift]

also, fuck no lol like trip works for her body type

but that one body type is AWFUL

like a fucking BEAR sonic forces

A BEAR

THATS NOT A BODY TEMPLATE OF A BEAR

BEARS CANT BE TWINKS

[tribal badger]

Huh?

[modern pebble]

its like you don’t know me

[tacit coral]

This is Sonic the Hedgehog

[unique wedge]

How many times do I gotta see this image of Avatar templates

[tacit coral]

Bears can be anything they want to be 😤

[knotty shoal]

You act like one I’ll say that much

[unique wedge]

This is like the 3th time or something

[noble drift]

YOU UNDERSTAND ME

[wise kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/gravity-falls-children-fighting-stan-gif-17787219

[tribal badger]

I think we lost the plot hard for a second, lol.

[zealous spindle]

exactly!! they be cartoon characters, don't have to be accurate to the animal if it doesn't fit what the artist wants to do themselves

[modern pebble]

No because I AM the twink bear

[noble drift]

CHANGE YOUR NAME TO THAT

[agile lotus]

btw it's fine to have an opinion.
I don't think we should tunnel vision this as Mello Nova is like a big Classic fan and knows his stuff, how the eyes etc work in his concept art is indicative of Sonic design philosophy.
But Trip is cute so I don't mind lol

[tacit coral]

Knows how the eyes work

[honest patio]

@agile lotus fuck you virtuafreeze

[tacit coral]

Makes completely different eyes

[honest patio]

friendship over

[tacit coral]

Ok

[hoary trench]

Damn

[short lark]

I mean they literally just stretch her body out, so to me it doesn’t:

[knotty shoal]

Ain’t no one say all that

[boreal mirage]

deleter lmao

[noble drift]

that looks fine to make cuz of her tail lol

[knotty shoal]

Deleter is stupid

[tacit coral]

Nuh uh

[knotty shoal]

Hmmmm

Love you

[zealous spindle]

th

this is just squash and stretch

[tacit coral]

Hmmmmm

[tribal badger]

I want to say something but I feel so lost

[noble drift]

like trip is also a tiny little girl i dont expect her to have a crazy different body type

[tribal badger]

Modern trip plz 🗿

[boreal mirage]

go ahead

[knotty shoal]

💀💀💀

[short lark]

I know, but her body shape still doesn’t really convey this motion well.

[tribal badger]

Alright.

[unique wedge]

make her a big little girl

[tribal badger]

I’m going to play Devil’s advocate then.

[boreal mirage]

I swear it isnt that deep 😭

[agile lotus]

my main point:

knows his stuff, how the eyes etc work in his concept art is indicative of Sonic design philosophy.
responding to:
doesn't really fit sonic
synn's response:
Ain’t no one say all that

this is like a case file court case with the virtual lawyer named freeze

[tribal badger]

Ew

[tacit coral]

Look at this based chad of a lizard

His eyes match

[agile lotus]

objection

[tacit coral]

His limbs match

[agile lotus]

your yucky erm

[short lark]

Why do people keep jumping to large bodies? Espio didn’t have a large body before it got changed.

[tacit coral]

And his body is simple yet incorporates one of his species defining traits!

[boreal mirage]

uh oh

[tacit coral]

So sonic

[boreal mirage]

[tacit coral]

Look at Trip now

[knotty shoal]

You said people were tunnel visioning that Mella Nova was some big classic sonic fan. No one was even talking about that

[tacit coral]

Her face, limbs, everything match the same template as vector

[zealous spindle]

I hope she swears in the next game

[tacit coral]

And her design incorporates one of the defining features of her species

[zealous spindle]

#LetTripSayFUCK

[knotty shoal]

Instead of typing like you’re on 4chan in this discord you should go be with your people on the /vg/ board

[tacit coral]

She's based too!

[boreal mirage]

kdl;dkqfw

[noble drift]

we figured out she was a sungazer lizard before we learned what she was for real

[agile lotus]

i meant tunnel visioning sonic designs into this template and that mella nova is a big sonic fan that understands a lot of sonc design philosophy erm erm erm erm

[agile lotus]

i don't go on that board and at least i dont mod a sonic server erm erm get owned erm

lol

[knotty shoal]

Lol just get out freeze if you’re not going to contribute anything to the conversation

[boreal mirage]

but what does that have to do with us saying it doesnt fit lmao

[agile lotus]

bc how doesn't it fit

[boreal mirage]

its weird

[agile lotus]

cool

[boreal mirage]

[agile lotus]

maybe i can't contribute much to discussion because there isn't much to engage in

[tribal badger]

Then don’t talk

[agile lotus]

so maybe ill head out for a short bit, my mates are asking me smth

[tribal badger]

Your main point of comparison is early classic sonic art.

If that’s so, then it’s kind of no wonder the majority think it “doesn’t fit”, does it? I think Mello’s design is pretty great but it falls much more in line with the very early philosophy of design characters in the classic era, more so the early Chaotix design.

What’s funny is that this kind of fizzled out heading into the Saturn era, didn’t it? If we’re going by this logic, Fang doesn’t resemble a Jerboa either and follows a similar design type to Sonic.

My point here is that actively trying to act like you’re pulling a fast one on people for thinking it doesn’t fit the style that’s been around for ages by posting screenshots like they’re some kind of checkmate, I don’t think that really reflects well.

Acting like people don’t want creative freedom when it comes to Sonic characters and just want OC templates is a bit silly.

[knotty shoal]

There was tons of engagement earlier! You just ruined it is all

[boreal mirage]

fizzled

[honest patio]

oh em gee

[knotty shoal]

Fizzle mention

[agile lotus]

nevermind responding to this my friends can wait

[boreal mirage]

so trueee

[honest patio]

me reference ‼️

[boreal mirage]

fiz reference no way

[knotty shoal]

That’s crazy

[honest patio]

alr now let me actually read this

[tacit coral]

Guys Sonic Team lied to me

Sungazer lizards do not roll into balls.....

[knotty shoal]

They do that a lot

Ummmm

Whaaaat

[tacit coral]

I'm so angry

[honest patio]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-falling-breaking-bad-dm4uz3-gif-18078549

[tacit coral]

[honest patio]

i forgor i was gonna redesign trip

[tacit coral]

Armadillo lizards do!

But Sungazers

[honest patio]

let me find my tablet

[tacit coral]

Do not....

[boreal mirage]

[unique wedge]

You're going to forger again

[honest patio]

forger

sxf reference

[boreal mirage]

yor forger

[honest patio]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-family-forger-anya-yor-teacup-walking-spy-family-forger-anya-yor-gif-16246080896242371079

[agile lotus]

Your main point of comparison is early classic sonic art.

If that’s so, then it’s kind of no wonder the majority think it “doesn’t fit”, does it? I think Mello’s design is pretty great but it falls much more in line with the very early philosophy of design characters in the classic era, more so the early Chaotix design.
I mention those original design philosophies because those were arguably a good start to the series and what I look for. This is a Classic Sonic game, based on that era of Sonic so I'm allowed to critcise and ask for less OC looking design that you can find from Forces or the IDW comics. The character design Mello made still has Sonic elements in it's overall character design (eye shapes, back spike silloutte etc is very indicative of Sonic design sensibilities). Also how dare I try to lighten the mood in a conversation, guess I'm not funny but I really don't see much of the issue. I don't gain much from this conversations, I post a design and get one sentence responses and I'm expected to engage in philosophical discussion and not goof off like a lot of other members do.

[wise kiln]

Freeze just quit while you're ahead

[boreal mirage]

[tacit coral]

h

[zealous spindle]

WHY is he not FISHING

[tacit coral]

FUUUUUUUCK

[wise kiln]

"Not goof off"

[boreal mirage]

Time changes, sorry you have to find out this way

[agile lotus]

Yeah especially for the worst it seems

[knotty shoal]

Maybe your time to leave the server has come…

[agile lotus]

What??

[knotty shoal]

Whaaaaat

Who said that

[boreal mirage]

nooo

[tacit coral]

Hold on let me find their twitter

[agile lotus]

Damn if that's how it's gonna be then damn

[boreal mirage]

not freeze

[tacit coral]

He's getting frozen out 🥶

[agile lotus]

Am I getting banned?

[knotty shoal]

No stupid

[tacit coral]

Yes////

[unique wedge]

Without freeze who is going to have philosophical discussions about intricate character design and kinoshino brommy momentum..

[knotty shoal]

This is so sad

Can we get

5 likes

[boreal mirage]

What I kinda mean is that oshima and sonic team philosophy also changed so you cannot think like they're in the classic era anymore, they have to adapt to the modern times

[noble drift]

tried to find a compromise

what do you guys think?

[unique wedge]

Henry art jumpscare

[boreal mirage]

dragon mouth?

[noble drift]

i think its cute

[agile lotus]

Actually cute as

[tacit coral]

NO MORE COMPROMISE

[agile lotus]

W

[tacit coral]

THIS IS DO OR DIE

I'LL WARN YOU ONE LAST TIME

[unique wedge]

This is cool

[tacit coral]

YOU'LL WAKE THE BEAST INSIIIIIIDE

[agile lotus]

Thought you were indicating that’s all lol

[tacit coral]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-my-reaction-to-that-information-angry-reaction-wolf-reaction-gif-27080186

[noble drift]

DONT STEAL MY ART I WILL TURN YOU INTO INVALIDATED SALAMI

[unique wedge]

What are the primary differences if you don't mind listing?

[noble drift]

oh sure!

[agile lotus]

Me getting ready to steal it erm

[noble drift]

uh the muzzle is longer

there are nostrils now

[strong lodge]

Too visual; didn't look

[noble drift]

i gave her a different mouth kinda dragon like

[short lark]

Eons better tbh

[noble drift]

gave her a few more spikes

and thats it

[boreal mirage]

what are marie and jane cooking

[tacit coral]

https://tenor.com/view/desmondpacito-cooking-chef-gif-12378159

[agile lotus]

I feel like I’m chuck mcgill and that’s a bad thing

[tribal badger]

My point was that this design philosophy didn’t last long. It went out around when Triple Trouble released I’d argue since Fang doesn’t really resemble his animal type and more so the regular designs we see nowadays besides maybe the ears. This isn’t a “this is good, this is bad” take. That’s also why “being a Classic Sonic game” has nothing to do with this since games with Classic Sonic were being made without those early design philosophies. In fact, Ray and Mighty were even redesigned a bit in Mania Plus to resemble the current philosophy more. Really seems like a mute point.

It feels like you’re portraying these designs as having been there the whole time when they’re really a small fraction in the grand scheme of things.

And I’m not even gonna comment on that last part, lol.

[zealous spindle]

Also how dare I try to lighten the mood in a conversation, guess I'm not funny but I really don't see much of the issue
look, I'll be honest - if you're looking for a crowd with the 4chan-tier humour you're after with the "erm erm erm" shit an the like, you're really not getting it here, the polar opposite in fact lol

when you're losing the crowd with an act, it's time to either look inwards at whether you're performing in the right venue, or if the act is truly right for you

[honest patio]

not the tag team 😭

[tacit coral]

do people actually say erm on 4chan

[hoary trench]

https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-pizza-gif-6074641

[honest patio]

EJGGRENJO

[zealous spindle]

gotta find your own people, and if you're looking for doomposters with an edge this, simply isn't the one is it lol

[honest patio]

Hi shama hru

[short lark]

I genuinely don’t know.

[honest patio]

oh yeah

should i post

[zealous spindle]

no idea, wouldn't get me near ten feet of the place

[honest patio]

my sonic discourse list here

[tacit coral]

I don't even know why we're getting dissed, we can analyze

[knotty shoal]

They say a lot more than just erm

[tacit coral]

LKJDGHKJSFD

[honest patio]

ok but like

that 8chan stream

[honest patio]

was fucking insane

Like genuinely the most unhinged thing I've witnessed in a while

[hoary trench]

Anyways. I pretty much agree with what Marie has said

Couldn’t have said it any better myself

[agile lotus]

I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers. I knew it was 1993. One after 1992. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn’t prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the Sakura Wars to direct for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He’s done worse. That visual design! Are you telling me that a man just happens to make mid like that? No! He orchestrated it! Ohshima! He Forces oc’d through a Trip design. And I saved him! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own steam account! What was I thinking? He’ll never change. He’ll never change! Ever since it was 1991, always the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the muzzle curve draw! But not our ohshima! Couldn’t be precious ohshima! Kinoing them blind! And HE gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance!
…And you, you Tailschannel have to stop him! You

[honest patio]

it's always funny when marie enters chat

drops a college thesis on sonic and then leaves

[hoary trench]

Lmao

[zealous spindle]

genuinely thought 8chan was killed off like, years back until that stream popped up ngl

[honest patio]

i still need to know who the "freezeopp" user was

bro was wilding

[strong lodge]

It's like Cerberus, every time you chop off 1chan 3 more rise up to take its place

[agile lotus]

Tbh I’d respond but I feel like I’m lowkey just fighting an uphill battle

[honest patio]

WTFFF

😭

[agile lotus]

So I’d rather not argue with people who don’t have my best interests. I’m good lol

[honest patio]

don't call me...... don't come by my house....

[agile lotus]

PIN LMAO

[zealous spindle]

what.... are your best interests, in this scenario

cos like

putting your mates on hold to have an argument here

[tribal badger]

I usually put all the energy I have for Sonic discussion in like a paragraph or two.

[honest patio]

valid

[zealous spindle]

I don't think those are your best interests?

like, I'm not your mum or a mod, I can't tell you who you should or shouldn't be

[tacit coral]

Forum poster spotted...

[zealous spindle]

but its something to mull over

[tribal badger]

Good god no, lmao.

[tacit coral]

Ok good

[noble drift]

now its just trip

still love her

[honest patio]

oh em gee

FUCK

I KEEPFORGETTING

[agile lotus]

Nah I’m alright g

[tacit coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1161789260752490586/1163299206463750205/image.png?ex=653f11cf&is=652c9ccf&hm=f71ba2da143913a1e8931f21c9303605922d27915c6d59329f4f75e9c2920629&=&width=853&height=885

[tribal badger]

Forgetting what?

[agile lotus]

I didn’t even know erm was entirely a 4chan term

[boreal mirage]

he wanted to redesign trip

but always forget

[noble drift]

shes way less lizard like but man she is sooo cute

[boreal mirage]

😭

[tribal badger]

Ahh.

[tribal badger]

Do it.

[tacit coral]

It feels more discord tbh

[honest patio]

erm feels way too polite for 4chan

[noble drift]

she looks really good from the side

[strong lodge]

Man trip and vector need to pull up to the function and do donuts together

[honest patio]

i got distracted and started watching perfect blue

[zealous spindle]

fine, your call on that front, again I can't tell you what you should or shouldn't do

[zealous spindle]

but like

please don't make the same mistakes I did

[tribal badger]

At least it’s a good movie, lmao.

[boreal mirage]

💀

[zealous spindle]

there's more than this

[tacit coral]

right, like

[honest patio]

did this turn into an intervention 😭

[tacit coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1161789260752490586/1163299206463750205/image.png?ex=653f11cf&is=652c9ccf&hm=f71ba2da143913a1e8931f21c9303605922d27915c6d59329f4f75e9c2920629&=&width=853&height=885

[honest patio]

omg thank you for this photo

[tacit coral]

A more traditional design would have the spike patterns

[honest patio]

good reference

[tacit coral]

Extending along the body

[tacit coral]

"straight"

But her scales just

[noble drift]

the side view looks honestly awesome

[tacit coral]

Wrap around in a circle for her head yeah

So it throws people off

[honest patio]

this will also make good reference

[tacit coral]

kind of like how people get thrown off on Sonic being a hedgehog

[honest patio]

here i go!!!!

[honest patio]

wait does

anyone have that full body render

[tacit coral]

An "ideal" design would be those scales being straighter

[honest patio]

of maskless trip

[tacit coral]

But it would also be more typical

Maybe one more layer of scales would have been good but

You know how Sonic has three spikes on his head traditionally?

Well

[honest patio]

nvm ill find it myself

[tacit coral]

Is it this?

[boreal mirage]

tbh I still dont know why her design is bad?

she looks fine, like a normal sonic character

[tacit coral]

Also Freeze that was a lot of talk to not be engaging with any of this

[honest patio]

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-willem-dafoe-dancing-yoinky-sploinky-that-yoinky-sploinky-gif-24692258

[noble drift]

maybe they should have done it like this:

https://vxtwitter.com/vittormento/status/1713426845989830683

[zealous spindle]

(if I could prevent everyone online from having a glass-half-empty doomposting era I goddamn would lol, caused me nothing but misery - completely pointless, avoidable misery too!!)

[noble drift]

qirt

[honest patio]

hey thats pretty nice

[agile lotus]

I think her eyes should look a bit different

Like more sharper, maybe ball shaped pupils too

[honest patio]

i thought it was another language 💀

[tacit coral]

Ehhhhhh

Sungazer lizards are elegant right

[noble drift]

yes very

[tacit coral]

The additional horns don't really convey that imo

[noble drift]

yea true

[tacit coral]

The spikier "ears" are good

[noble drift]

they arent that spikey

[tacit coral]

But for the additional uh

Flap?

[honest patio]

so elegance

what you’re saying

[tacit coral]

No no fr

[honest patio]

is to make her blaze

[tacit coral]

loook

V elegant

[honest patio]

trip is anything but elegant 😭

im joking tho i get it

[tacit coral]

I mean

[honest patio]

no

[tacit coral]

For a Sonic character I think she is

[honest patio]

don't i mean me

i was joking

[tacit coral]

Oh

Tripping

[honest patio]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-threat-stab-omori-game-omori-furious-gif-23886175

[noble drift]

i mean she is a pretty character, personality not withstanding lol

[tacit coral]

https://tenor.com/view/omari-omithewaffler-omarigif-gif-20660133

[honest patio]

RAAAAAA WHAT DID I SAY

[noble drift]

like she got the sharp eyes like blaze and her spikes seem like, rounded

[tacit coral]

Anyways the additional flap beneath the ear-thing-whatever

I think... I like it better simpler?

[agile lotus]

Agree

[tacit coral]

Like

It's just better suited I think

[agile lotus]

The more I look at trip the more I like her

[noble drift]

i now know how she looks from the side and yep this design is amazing

her horn is not even like a nose, it actually fits as a horn like espio

maybe her horn should be yellow?

[short lark]

Opposite for me tbh.

The design works as is, it just doesn’t standout to me.

[noble drift]

nah nvm

the red nose is better

god

i love her

so much

finally after silver we have a streak of lovely new characters to the roster

barry, sage, trip

[boreal mirage]

barry 💀

you forgor infinite and buddy

[short lark]

Whatever people see in Trip I’m just not seeing.

[noble drift]

eh i like infinite but he doesnt belong to the list

[short lark]

She’s alright I guess.

[noble drift]

yea you made it very clear lol

[short lark]

Her Dragon Form is a treasure however.

Look at her:

[tacit coral]

If one were to complain about the average Sonic template, you'd think that'd be a constant throughout the entire series as a fox, echidna, bee, chameleon, hawk, and bat all take the same general form as each other to comical degrees

But the second one established character does break that mold, that being Knuckles, everyone immediately talks about how important it is to retain it

[boreal mirage]

JayJay seeing trip like

[short lark]

Boom Knuckles is terrible lol.

[unique wedge]

I wouldn't say it's better or worse, but I love the small changes you made

[noble drift]

thank you!

i honestly like both

[tacit coral]

Echidna's are much bigger than Hedgehogs...

*bigger

[short lark]

It looks like they just plastered his head on some other character’s body.

[noble drift]

i like my edit cuz it makes her look more reptile like

but also there is something about trips design that i just love

it looks so

innofensive

in a good way

[short lark]

Movie Knuckles is bigger than Movie Sonic. Wanna do bulk? Do it like that lol.

[unique wedge]

I think the same

[short lark]

Something I will give Boom over Prime however is the unique background character designs.

[unique wedge]

Both with her mask on or off

[noble drift]

yep

i like both the mask cuz she looks so goofy

and mask off cuz she is finally a female sonic character thats also like, not immune to slapstick and being silly

[unique wedge]

Also, at least there is this for people who wanted her to be more like an animal
She has your average design with anthromorphic proportions, much like a good amount of other characters in their normal form, but then she becomes a whole dragon for super because yes

It's awesome

[short lark]

Sucks that you gotta unlock a more interesting design, but whatever I guess, still cute:

[noble drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw1Wou9yInE

[honest patio]

Man say what you want about her design

But she is fun asf to draw

[unique wedge]

I'm more interested in her gameplay and how everything will play out when I get my hands out on the official release of this game

I am hearing for most people that it is either a challenge or only a hassle

[honest patio]

Trip herself is fun to play as

[unique wedge]

Level design seems like a whole other story

[boreal mirage]

https://fixupx.com/Squidy_Inkling/status/1713631624888266828?s=20

[honest patio]

so it turns out i liked drawing her so much that i forgot to do the redesign part

so uhh, just have normal trip ig

[boreal mirage]

Cute

[honest patio]

actually i hate the positioning hold on

there we go

[magic raptor]

It’s because her design is perfect and has no flaws whatsoever

[boreal mirage]

Cute

[vivid saddle]

cutie…

[zenith kettle]

Yeah I don't know what Jay is on, the design is adorable

Like sure, it's another one of those characters that have similar design philosophies with Sonic, but I feel like that's its strength more than anything

And it's not like we're somehow starved of different-looking characters. Sage is right there

[balmy cipher]

No way the Art Book even spoils her unmasked look.

[fickle burrow]

Art books usually spoil stuff

Frontiers art book has concept art of stuff like supreme

[balmy cipher]

The power of art books

Spoiling you shit by just reading it

Remind me

Where did GameInformer stop in their Superstars demo coverage again?

Around Golden Capital or was it earlier?

[fickle burrow]

I think it was golden capital yeah

[short lark]

I literally said Trip was a cute design. Just boring because she’s just a standard Sonic template that looks more like a mammal than reptile. And Sage is a human/humanoid, I was mostly focusing on the animal characters.

[balmy cipher]

Ok so from that point on, it should be heavy spoiler zone

Especially with Trip’s unmasked look.

[short lark]

If anything the humans are more varied considering Unleashed was the last time we saw humans in large numbers and they were vastly more diverse in shape and size lol.

[last bay]

I just dont see what expectations one would have with Trip's full design cause she is just like an animal esque Sonic character like most of the cast, ofc she's gonna be designed similar to em. She's not gonna have a drastic look like the Zeti or the various humans.

[short lark]

Why does the point keep being missed like this when Vector and Classic Espio are right there??????

Even ignoring those two for a second her Dragon form even shows they can do something different.

[agile lark]

Ayooo

[shy frigate]

tbh I hate the Chaotix classic designs

[agile lark]

Fellas stop what yall are doing

Mega man is available NOW

[shy frigate]

Anyway Trip has 3 fantastic designs

[agile lark]

I was never book smart

Etc

[shy frigate]

she is a lizard anyway, correct?

[short lark]

She is a reptile, yes.

[agile lark]

She's the ultimate lifeforms cousin

[shy frigate]

everyone keeps saying reptile but that is not a species, it's a family of species

[agile lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/950651184870486096/958070613656879174/basketgator.gif

[short lark]

Yes????? Vector and Classic Espio still look reptilian though.

[zenith kettle]

pin it

[agile lark]

@toxic canopy habibi I need you to hit us up with the pin

[shy frigate]

she is a lizard, I googled it, btw if you google sungazer lizard you find searches for "sungazer lizard Trip" or Sonic, we are already at it

[short lark]

????????

[shy frigate]

sungazer lizards are now famous because of Sonic

[short lark]

What does that have to do with the point I’m trying to make???

[shy frigate]

nothing, I asked if Trip was a lizard

[short lark]

Oh.

[shy frigate]

you answered with reptile, and I googled Trip

[zenith kettle]

I guess for me the "problem" (not an actual problem, but something that my mind just goes to) is that she looks more like a modern incarnation of a character than a classic one, making her look a lil bit out of place with the rest of the cast

[rapid shuttle]

https://youtu.be/B9rL4wlG_-0?si=MflbAzvYZL6wMkJ4

[fickle burrow]

big metal snoc

the fact that this is how the boss works is so cool

bc i just straight up had a metal sonic fight against metal sonic lmao

[tribal badger]

That’s adorable. Great job.

[knotty shoal]

This is really good

[hoary trench]

You are cooking!

[hoary trench]

2 boss skips already 😭

[rapid shuttle]

Check the rest of his channel

[hoary trench]

3 boss skips?!??

[tribal badger]

Also can I say that ||Trip has the biggest W of ANY other sonic chars for having a complete unique super design. Only one that is like that is Chaos 0 despite being in negative form||

[agile lotus]

i was never kino smart, im momentum smart
makes me more broshima-ment
call me mr roll festival
i got hella spins
shawty cute in her circle too, told her bring a friend
she gone make me slide with my rings like im sonic-man

[zealous spindle]

what do you MEAN i was right 😭

[balmy cipher]

goofy lil girl

[fickle burrow]

W

[balmy cipher]

checked the Game Informer Superstars game coverage.
They just abruptly stopped at Press Factory Zone

[fickle burrow]

its such a neat feature

[balmy cipher]

WHAT THE FUCK

EGG ROBO AIN'T FUCKING AROUND LMAO

[fickle burrow]

mmm yeah egg robo mhm

[noble drift]

NIDIO

CENSOR THAT LOL

[fickle burrow]

wait but this is spoiler chat no

[tidal isle]

||Oh shit I didn´t that happened to her too lmao||

[balmy cipher]

anyways yea it just ends at the start of Press Factory Zone

[noble drift]

||that kind of spoilers is a bit bigger so we use the bars for the fang final boss||

[fickle burrow]

oh aight

[noble drift]

||just cuz its coolclol||

[balmy cipher]

||WAIT THAT'S FANG?!?!?!||

[noble drift]

FUCK

[agile lark]

meme's over

[fickle burrow]

i mean this one is on him 😭

[agile lark]

it has been ruined

[balmy cipher]

HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOWWQWIODHASHDSUHFDK