Sonic Superstars (spoilers)

[tacit coral]

For... spoilers

Yea

[noble drift]

Ah yes spoilers as

[tacit coral]

Yes

[noble drift]

Bowser is the final boss

[tacit coral]

No descriptions

[noble drift]

Bowser Jr is there

Kamek as well

Yawn

[tacit coral]

DAVID NO

[modern pebble]

no there are actual substantial spoilers lol

[tacit coral]

DAVID

[modern pebble]

such as

[honest patio]

https://tenor.com/view/point-gun-shoot-bang-bang-crying-scared-gif-15272562

[noble drift]

Sorry but Mario is just not a game i care about spoilers

Is all about the gameplay

[modern pebble]

Yeah I was referring to gameplay spoilers lol

[noble drift]

Such as?

[modern pebble]

I have two people threatening my safety so im gonna keep my mouth shut

But what I will say

Is that it got my cynical wisecracking ass to be completely quiet

[noble drift]

Then say it just put it on black bars

[modern pebble]

See: #lobby message

That and what I replied to is all I have to say atm

[noble drift]

Boring

Just say it on black bars and delete it

If people click it they are dumbasses

[toxic canopy]

trip is brown??????????

[noble drift]

Im not gonna buy wonder at all anyways

[toxic canopy]

u dont need to buy it anyways

i have the game in my pocker rn

[noble drift]

Yea i know i can pirate it

[modern pebble]

I can’t believe I just got called boring

[noble drift]

Boring response

Not you

Like "thats all i will say" like say something about the thing that changed your view

[honest patio]

Wait

[modern pebble]

I did, though…

[noble drift]

Cuz i wanna see something of valie in this game as well

[tacit coral]

dms...

[toxic canopy]

DELETER DOOOOONTTTT

[honest patio]

||Do I have to fucking parry for the end part of the dragon boss??? 😭||

[modern pebble]

I literally explained why my opinion changed

man this sucks

[toxic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/wyvern-dap-me-up-sonic-frontiers-gif-17076119817613008946

[modern pebble]

ive been getting weird responses from everyone in this server after expressing that im actually liking this game

I think im just gonna stop talking about it :/

[honest patio]

||I’ve been trying to homing attack this whole time, fuck me 😭||

[toxic canopy]

you do know not to take my shit seriously 😭

[noble drift]

David ffs

Stop doing that

[honest patio]

people will talk about “it’s not the 90s the rivalry is over!!!” and then get anal when you talk about mario

[noble drift]

You seriously keep doing that everytime you express any opinion and responses are weird

[honest patio]

I don’t think he means you specifically

[noble drift]

Is time to put your foot down

Just express yourself

[toxic canopy]

its because supersharts wasnt as kino as the execs wanted it to be.....

[tacit coral]

[noble drift]

Also thanks deleter

[honest patio]

this is a joke but i genuinely feel like this is some of the mentality

[toxic canopy]

oh it definitely is 😭

[modern pebble]

last time I did that this server literally had a mini meltdown

[noble drift]

Delete showed me the thing

You gotta stop doing that then

[modern pebble]

…which is why im opting to disengage entirely

[tacit coral]

Y'all need to stop comparing the two for one

[modern pebble]

glad we agree

[tacit coral]

Like

[noble drift]

Enough having meltdowns over opinions, you are so much like me and thats not a good thing

[modern pebble]

WHAT

[honest patio]

He meant the server had a meltdown

Not him 😭

[tacit coral]

These are two seperate games they can be discussed on their own-

[noble drift]

What

[toxic canopy]

💀

[noble drift]

Wait

I think i understood that wrong

[honest patio]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-panda-gif-24776030

[tacit coral]

Where's the one piece gif I NEED TO POST IT

The "we're the same"

[honest patio]

I don’t think you want the one I have

[noble drift]

No no ill just stop talking i understood everything wrong

[tacit coral]

I think I do....

[noble drift]

Ill just stop that

Im not gonna buy wonder

Cuz someone else will buy it for me

[tacit coral]

[honest patio]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-is-real-gif-26764509

[tacit coral]

YEEEESSS LETSGO

[noble drift]

~~its gonna take a little bit but its gonna be worth the wait for free game

[toxic canopy]

man

maybe it's time i time i hold back a bit 😭

[noble drift]

NO

NEVER HOLD IT BACK

YOU ARE OUR MASCOT

[honest patio]

spectrometer

stop being dumb

you know he’s not talking about you

[toxic canopy]

ik

[tacit coral]

spectronium NEVER hold back

[toxic canopy]

but the voices

[tacit coral]

u got this

🔥

oh shit

🚒

[noble drift]

The voices are dumb what matters is your heart

[tacit coral]

🧯

[toxic canopy]

i'll look into it 📖

[tacit coral]

Average KH character:

[noble drift]

Anyways i am looking forward for wonder

[honest patio]

But nah some of y’all need to stop being annoying about it

It’s happened like 3 times this where I voice a criticism and met with “erm, superstars is gonna CLEAR wonder” when i never brought the game up to begin with 😭

[noble drift]

Oh god did i do that....?

[tacit coral]

[honest patio]

For the record it’s no one in this current convo

[tacit coral]

[noble drift]

[noble drift]

Yea it is kind of annoying to keep comparing the two

Honestly! I know ill have a blast with both and be satsfied

[toxic canopy]

i like wonder more but

idk i want to see something more than a fresh new coat of paint

i think i've already mentioned to some people here already

[noble drift]

Yea

Wonder looks very very nice

[honest patio]

Ik we talked about it in dms

[noble drift]

It looks like sugar and candy

And gameplay must be sublime

[toxic canopy]

but i've played a lot of 2d platformers since mania and i really want to see classic 90s platformers like mario and sonic go in a different direction in terms of their genre

like could u imagine a sonic game with the same core movesets/fundamentals as the classics but in a more action/cinematic metroidvania like dread?

[honest patio]

That would be cool

But in Mario’s case I’m not sure they’re in the position to do that

Like I think Scott said this

[toxic canopy]

its something i kinda see in both

[tacit coral]

I'm glad that Superstars exists so that I can spread an agenda against classic sonic and for modern sonic amongst the normies

[honest patio]

But 2D Mario is like, the bread and butter

You can add stuff and change styles and be really creative with it

[toxic canopy]

but u can really go so far with sticking to the same genre but building upon it

[honest patio]

But you kind of need that traditional 2D platformer

Maybe another Mario spin off can do something like that

But I don’t see like regular Mario Bros heading in that direction

[toxic canopy]

sure it can hel rediscover on what made the games before so great, might even pull the nostalgia strings or two, but idk

like with sonic

[tacit coral]

Idk they do that for 3D Mario

Why not?

They certainly seem to be in a good position to do so now

[honest patio]

Because 3D Mario is a different case

[toxic canopy]

i have like a bazillion sonic fangames that gives me what supersharts gives me

[tacit coral]

What with the "new era of 2D mario"

[toxic canopy]

so its prolly why sonic pooperfarts didnt had that strong of an impression on me

[honest patio]

bro said superstarts

[noble drift]

you havent played many mario hacks

[honest patio]

pooperfarts ⁉️

[toxic canopy]

super mario world hacks go insane tho 😁

[noble drift]

They do but also

[toxic canopy]

i played a lot back in the day

[noble drift]

Newer Mario Bros

[honest patio]

guys there’s this really cool one called i hate you

everyone should play it

[noble drift]

That shit is insane

No thank you

[honest patio]

great level design

and music

[toxic canopy]

yea i know that one

but bottom line is

with stuff like sonic fangames or mario maker levels, i really feel like what i want to see in both kinda has been fulfilled

[noble drift]

Yea? Pretty much ig

[toxic canopy]

so i would love to see something that hasn't been done before. something substantial like a genre change, yknow

[tacit coral]

And Mario has traditional level design accomidated for with the NSMB games and maker for like

three decades

Let it cut loose and do something crazy like the 3D games

[noble drift]

Genre change is honestly something that sonic needs badly kinda

[short lark]

Give me a 2D Metroidvania Mario tbh lol

[noble drift]

add rpg elements

[toxic canopy]

(and sonic tbh lol)

[noble drift]

Come on cowards

[short lark]

That too lol

[tacit coral]

Oh god

Even in divergence

They still go down the same paths

[toxic canopy]

like, metroidvania is prolly the most ambitious thing u can do with a 2d platformer

and its very hard to stick the landing with those

[noble drift]

The world would be better with more platformers with rpg elements

[short lark]

Holy shit wait

[tacit coral]

2D Mario but it has visual novel elements...

[short lark]

Maybe the Metroidvania route is the bridge to the Mario and Sonic crossover everyone has been asking for.

[toxic canopy]

date rosalina or else

[toxic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-ice-hit-gif-13046774

[honest patio]

While I can’t speak for wonder

[toxic canopy]

not happening !!!

[noble drift]

I mean upgrades and battle system

But okay!

[honest patio]

Superstars isn’t the innovation on 2D Sonic that it pretends it is tbh

[toxic canopy]

sonic has a long way to go...............

[toxic canopy]

thisssssss

[noble drift]

I mean

[toxic canopy]

i honestly felt this once the credits roll

like

[noble drift]

Is it pretending to be such thing?

[toxic canopy]

sure it was

but to the level of my expectation?

nah

😔

[noble drift]

I just see it as sonic 4 episode 3

[tacit coral]

I mean the only innovation it claimed to have was the 3D gimmick

[short lark]

Platforming from the foreground to the background has been done by Sonic Rivals my blud. 💀

[noble drift]

Not as a big evolution

[honest patio]

A good bit of the marketing campaign was “an evolution of 2d sonic!!!!” So yeah

[glad geyser]

Sonic fans when they get innovation

[noble drift]

Cuz sega is a dumbass but the game itself is just another 2d game

They have nothing to say so they have to say something cuz its 2.5d now

And its EVOLVED

i think

[glad geyser]

[tacit coral]

Tobe is this a bit

[short lark]

Mfw Sonic Rivals:

[noble drift]

But i dont feel betrayed or anything

It is just a new 2d sonic game

[glad geyser]

They do realize every single 2D game after Advance 3 and before Mania was 2.5D

Including classic Sonic in the main games

[noble drift]

They erased those games from their brains

[tacit coral]

Yes but it didn't have classic sonic

aka no one was looking

[honest patio]

Sonic 4 is the evolution of 2D sonic

huzzah

[toxic canopy]

its been 17 years thats like one jonasonic ago

[glad geyser]

I want to throw you to the wolves

To see if you are undefeatable

[toxic canopy]

i will break thru it all

[glad geyser]

Alright

[tacit coral]

he looked down

[toxic canopy]

because im finding my flame

[honest patio]

also the devs themselves were saying this in interviews iirc

[noble drift]

Anyways i really dont feel like superstars did anything wrong in juet being a normal 2d sonic game without much inovation

[tacit coral]

now that I'm with you

[glad geyser]

An actual Sonic lyric btw

[tacit coral]

I'm here

[noble drift]

The devs are iizuka, aka nothing he says is of value

[tacit coral]

Damn

[noble drift]

Im serious lmao

[glad geyser]

I wonder if Sonic team has realized now that they've stood here across these new frontiers

If the way has become clear

[honest patio]

That’s pretty silly when this is the most prominent iizuka has been in the development of a new sonic game for a bit instead of just looking on from the background

[noble drift]

Iizuka just constantly makes his own projects appear as something they arent just cuz of his own stupid words

[honest patio]

Either way

They marketed their game a certain way

So I expect it to be a certain way

[noble drift]

Meh

[honest patio]

If it’s not, I’m not gonna go easy on it just because

[toxic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-vs-sasuke-anime-fight-battle-ninja-gif-17227826

me and that fuckin frog

[tacit coral]

What about Mania

[boreal mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/flame-thrower-leonardo-dicaprio-lance-flamme-burn-burning-gif-21661296

[noble drift]

Like evolution to them is jus tthe 2.5d look

[honest patio]

is that wario

[noble drift]

Like thats all they meant

[tacit coral]

Wasn't his input on it's development worthwhile?

[short lark]

Omg, what Pokémon is this?

[noble drift]

It has 3d look now

[honest patio]

then they already did that over a decade ago

that’s not an evolution

[noble drift]

Guys stop taking that so literally

[tacit coral]

No I think they legitimately think it's a selling point

[honest patio]

and that makes it even worse lmao

[boreal mirage]

man superstar really is the pokemon violet of sonic

[tacit coral]

They aren't talking to the super fans

[boreal mirage]

[honest patio]

alright

[boreal mirage]

kfqlw;fkqw

[tacit coral]

They're talking to the average gamer

[honest patio]

hop off speed racer

[noble drift]

Iizuka is a good guy

Im just saying his pr talk and interviews are shite

[toxic canopy]

superstars vs wonder covered in oil who's winning the twer-

PIZZA TOWER

[noble drift]

Always were

[honest patio]

Also

We know fully well

[boreal mirage]

Pizza tower

[short lark]

Alright bro, you done stepped over the boundaries.

[honest patio]

They also meant the emerald powers

[noble drift]

Davih ffs you havent even played the damn game

[toxic canopy]

what did he mean by boundaries 😂 😭 💇‍♂️

[glad geyser]

Ngl

[honest patio]

And while they’re fun to use

[boreal mirage]

its a joke

[glad geyser]

When I think back

[honest patio]

it’s just a gimmick like the wisps

[vivid saddle]

elephant peach and daisy solo anyone in the superstars cast unfortunately

[glad geyser]

The amount of damage Sonic 4 caused in the long run was really bad

[tacit coral]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-racer-gif-11837043

[noble drift]

I just see superstars as a new 2d game nothing more than that

Stupid pr talk aside

[tacit coral]

Stop saying stupid pr talk grrrr

HE MEANT IT

[noble drift]

They tried their best in making this game appear innovative when its just more of the same

[toxic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/bowsette-meme-princess-bowser-super-mario-bros-rawr-gif-12574784

[tacit coral]

[vivid saddle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/584857983436193794/1136339558452179196/Rumy_20230801_1.gif

[glad geyser]

Coop and you can't even do this
Innovation

[toxic canopy]

IM SYAIN

[honest patio]

TRUE

[toxic canopy]

IM SAIYAN

SUPER SAIYAN

[tacit coral]

GBA game that no one played/knew of

[toxic canopy]

3

[vivid saddle]

goddd sonic riding knuckleszzs

[noble drift]

Dude i got burnt out by "brand new experience" before so many times

[vivid saddle]

why does sega ignore dimps games

[toxic canopy]

hi, this is spectre's lawyer. it turns out he needed to take his medicine. we are very sorry about that.

[glad geyser]

Why are you like this tonight

[tacit coral]

Why are YOU like this tonight

[vivid saddle]

.(edited)

[tacit coral]

Everyone calm down Deleter and Tobe are fighting nopw

[noble drift]

Are they?

[toxic canopy]

team tober for life

[tacit coral]

YES

[noble drift]

Dont care

Lets keep talking

[toxic canopy]

sorry detwerker

[tacit coral]

[boreal mirage]

[toxic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/sonix-precure-gif-24528646

I'D BUY THIS MARIO GAME IF THIS WAS THE POWERUPS

[tribal badger]

I find it funny as fuck how some of biggest complaints about sonic games in the last year was game being too easy

And then they throw this and update 3 at us

[tacit coral]

THEY AREN'T THE SAME PEOPLE GRRRAAAAH

[toxic canopy]

you do know

i am happy about this

[tribal badger]

[toxic canopy]

🙂

[tacit coral]

Sonic fanbase is not a hivemind! Sonic fanbase is not a hivemind! Sonic fanbase is not a hivemind! Sonic fanbase is not a hivemind!

[tribal badger]

LMFAO

[tribal badger]

They treat us like one though

[tacit coral]

Tru

[toxic canopy]

FUCKING FINALLY I FOUND THE TWEET

[honest patio]

they should cast don cheadle as sonic

[toxic canopy]

BEST DAY IS TODAY GUYS NEVER LET UR DREAMS DOWN

[tacit coral]

what

[toxic canopy]

after all this time

#prime message

i fuckin won

[noble drift]

Jesus christ these are videogames

Anywats

[tacit coral]

never let your iircs stay iircs

[toxic canopy]

the spectronium urge to say #1161789260752490586

[noble drift]

Wonder looks cool :)

[toxic canopy]

,,,,,,,,,

[tacit coral]

No

[noble drift]

I will play and have fun

Once my friend buys ti

[tacit coral]

Mmmmmmm

[noble drift]

So i can play it

[tacit coral]

Ehhhhhhhhh

Eeeeeehhhhhh

[toxic canopy]

forgit it

[honest patio]

fuck you

I hate video games

[short lark]

I enjoy the way this lines up on my phone screen.

[toxic canopy]

LMAOOOO

[tacit coral]

https://tenor.com/view/the-god-father-marlon-brando-vito-corleone-talk-to-me-gif-20103957

[noble drift]

Also stop talking about superstars like its a betrayal get fucking good

[toxic canopy]

i shoulda streama the sopranos here one day

woulda be so aweomse

[noble drift]

Im gonna beat trips story blindfolded

[tacit coral]

it would....

[honest patio]

trips story is worst than update 3’s difficulty spike

[noble drift]

Ill be the judge of that

[honest patio]

nah i already judged it

[tacit coral]

Gn snoc superstarians

[toxic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/rough-morning-bad-day-bad-hair-day-bad-luck-the-worst-gif-3536958371785391200

why is she like this

[noble drift]

Also the only difficulty spike in update 3 is hard mode master king

[toxic canopy]

🥴

[honest patio]

only authority is me when opinion 💯

[toxic canopy]

nah

[honest patio]

I was talking about the trials and towers tbh

master king on hard is blatantly unfair

[toxic canopy]

yea

[honest patio]

but even then you can lower the difficulty

even with super trip her stages are a chore tbh

[toxic canopy]

what the trip

[honest patio]

Soup trip

🍜

[boreal mirage]

[short lark]

[modest arch]

[toxic canopy]

🎳 💨 💨 🤛

[rustic fable]

IM SORRY BUT WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN FEEDING THAT ANIMAL

[rustic fable]

The fact that 3 of those I fucking adore (forget Gravity Falls)

[boreal mirage]

Spare!

[tacit coral]

[boreal mirage]

Deleter

You a wonder bro or a superbro

[tacit coral]

Only one username

It's like halloween unfortunately

It may be just around the corner

But

The wonder cheer just can't be stopped

[agile lotus]

Factory Act 2 with Trip is ass but Golden Capital Act 1 feels made for her

[toxic canopy]

freezer look at pins 😭

[agile lotus]

skill issue

[honest patio]

Alright

I’m officially done

[modest arch]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxO4cbiV44zcpuurOYzQQPPmyfGPm0BuWO?si=TBKCHHCqWXKcwcdC

she just gets run over after act sonic it’s hilarious 😭

people do be posting the entire game on youtube over the weekend though

[honest patio]

THAT WAS SO FUNNY

the little cutscenes are so silly

[modest arch]

the boings after they crash are comical

game villain moment

fang stops right before hitting her how’d they crash 😭

[boreal mirage]

[honest patio]

Now

Ngl

That kind of weakened my opinion on the game overall 😭

||The boss itself is cool and way more climatic but there was absolutely no reason this couldn’t be in the main game except “just because”||

||And that fight being the ONLY thing you get after doing allat is just kinda shit||

Still a 7/10 game but if before I had it at a high 7, now it’s a mid or low 7

[agile lotus]

skill issue im in cyber zone rn

[honest patio]

skill issue i beat the game loser

[short lark]

WAIT IS THERE AN ALT TO KEEP HER ARMOR ON? 👀

[honest patio]

No

It’s her idle

[short lark]

Damn

[honest patio]

She gets flustered and puts it back on

[short lark]

Lame.

[honest patio]

But yeah superstars issss fine

Nothing great but it’s fun where it counts

[agile lotus]

better then frontiers tho

[honest patio]

And it just gets hampered down by unnecessary things done for no reason

[honest patio]

If I say what I’m thinking you’re probably just going to call me a modern sonic bootlicker or smth

So I won’t lmao

[agile lotus]

I will but I'd still like to hear your argument and disagree with it most likely lol

[honest patio]

Nah there’s no point

It’s already 1 am, I’d rather not

[short lark]

“I’m gonna shit on you, but I still want you to say it so I can actually do it.” 💀

[honest patio]

lol

but i gotta say

it’s a funny coincidence how, superstars, the game that some people want to claim is what “sonic should be!!”, is on the same ground of reception as what they shit on so far

but that’s all you’ll hear from me 🫡

[tacit coral]

[agile lotus]

still better then mid lmaooo

good physics and platforming vs automated platforming with physics that are wonky
who will win erm erm erm erm

[honest patio]

imma go finish mob psycho before bed since I have one episode left

gn gang

[agile lotus]

🤓

@tacit coral playing ki-ino

[tacit coral]

oooo that do look nice

[agile lotus]

one of the best bosses (even if its kicking my ass)

[zenith kettle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbHUBhjqyFE mfers already deconstructing music and it's not even October 17th

[vast latch]

[hoary trench]

This game releasing in the same week as Mario Wonder really is a mistake

Yeah, I’m not gonna be surprised if this is not gonna sell well unless Sega already checked on their expectations

[fickle burrow]

im pretty sure development cost wise it was a pretty cheap game to produce so i think its gonna do pretty well relative to that

yknow theres something very satisfying about seeing modern sonic stuff represented in this game

i wished this type of stuff would be in mania too bc its a good way to tie stuff together

iirc the only representation of any modern sonic stuff in mania was the colors announcer reference and those sa1 water enemies

[tidal isle]

Oh right, forgot the other characters got their own end animations

[fickle burrow]

i wonder how long the end was in this game

like did they add it after frontiers had already released

or did the arzest team know beforehand and decided to add it before frontiers was a thing

either way this is prob something that happened bc of the lore team

lore team W

[crude kelp]

i mean sega expect game to sell on par with the frontiers

we may get our first sales on November 8th when sega has their financial report.

[hoary trench]

HAHAHA

Good luck selling as well as Frontiers

Releasing that game on the same week as probably the biggest Switch exclusive for this year on a platform where Sonic sells the most and it definitely overlaps with the audiences

Not helping that this is classic Sonic, which with Mania has shown that it won’t sell as well as modern Sonic games

Despite the quality differences

[tidal isle]

Peeped a bit on Wonder and yeah there´s no way around it, Hydrogen Bomb vs Coughing Baby. Specially considering how downgraded the switch version is compared to the others

[crude kelp]

the game will definitely sell well for its budget and beat mania sales, but I don't know about frontiers.

[hoary trench]

Pretty much

People even here are like “I want to be done with Superstars so that I can play Mario Wonder”

[fickle burrow]

Not me

Still looks not as fun as superstars to me ngl

It's def more polished and looks nicer

But like superstars has some of the best 2D sonic level design ever imo

And good 2D sonic is always more fun to me

[tidal isle]

The most optimistic scenario is that of those that no longer will get in switch for the reasons mentioned above will still buy it on other platforms, and even then those would be mostly adults, not the kids who are the bulk of the sales and most likely only own the Switch

[fickle burrow]

its def not gonna sell as well but im pretty confident it will make its money back

not gonna be a failure or anything

[tidal isle]

Oh no it def wont, just that the sales will take a big hit

[tribal badger]

I don't think it'll may reach Frontiers sales due to being a 2D game, but I completely doubt it'll be because of Mario

As SEGA and Nintendo said it was only a coincidence that they both are releasing in one week, but as time goes on Superstars is going to continue doing well

It'll topped out Mania no doubt but at best I expect like between 2 to 3 million sales

[hoary trench]

Selling better than Mania is funnily enough not a high bar

[tribal badger]

Pretty much

[hoary trench]

Its kind of ironic when they release a game that is universally beloved and it sells worse than most of the flawed ones

[tribal badger]

People can say what they want over Mania but the fact that not only it stay at digital and during the time Sonic wasn't well explosive was not in his favor at all

[modest arch]

has it been confirmed that the purple moon there really is the end?

[hoary trench]

and people wonder why they haven’t tried to reach the same level again

[fickle burrow]

technically no but like

its literally a purple moon with an aura

managed to kinda get trips rig to work

had to place most of the bones manually 💀

the normals are fucked up too idk how to fix em lol

[tidal isle]

Nice

[fickle burrow]

the mouths with these models seem to be handeled through shape keys

which is neat

prob not ideal for a game with characters talking but for a game like this its pretty damn good

[tidal isle]

Just noticed she has lil triangles circling her horns as if it was a sun. Thats cool

[fickle burrow]

should i try giving her airbrush style materials

[shy frigate]

Frontiers released with Scarlet Violet, both are popular switch games

An exclusive switch title and a popular one on switch

[fickle burrow]

I think scarlet and violet is for a pretty different temografic though

With it being an RPG

Also superstars doesn't have nearly as much hype behind it as frontiers

[shy frigate]

It's similar, Superstars will not reach Mario levels of success but it will do well with sales, black Friday and Christmas

Just like the Sonic movies did well but not Mario levels

[tribal badger]

It's really just how it is which even then towards of SEGA's pov is not going to focus on that

[shy frigate]

Superstars imo will not reach Frontiers level either, I agree with you guys, I also think potentially superstars has higher budget than Frontiers, there are a lot more assets, playable characters, in general it feels a lot more packed

But still, I am not entirely sure on the budget, it is just how I feel

It does give me higher budget vibes

Frontiers also came out the year of movie 2, but still Sonic is very popular these years so I am optimistic

[tribal badger]

Mario sales still remain as it's always been due to brand being severely popular
Whereas for Sonic? He is finally back to the direction the series heavily needs for years and it's been slowly growing throughout

It'll take years for Sonic to even reach to the levels of severely popular franchises like major Sony IPs, Mario, Zelda, CoD, and such but as of now the series is in the right place

[fickle burrow]

oh nah no way

they even describe development as easier, and they didnt need to pay for any cutscene animation (beyond the few 2D animated ones), voice acting, and generally theres much less content in this game

[shy frigate]

Frontiers is a longer game but still, Superstars feels more rich

Even though it's shorter

[fickle burrow]

still doesnt have as much high quality content to produce though

im pretty sure that like, 1 titan cost as much to create as an entire zone

[short lark]

Bro what 💀

[fickle burrow]

(not even talking about the fights themselves, just the model)

[short lark]

Frontiers is definitely higher budget than Superstars.

Problem is both are lower budget but at different ratios.

[shy frigate]

Regarding sales, Frontiers is a best seller this year so it is hard to top anyway

[short lark]

Like, Frontiers should be on par with other AAA releases but it’s not.

[tribal badger]

It's like I said earlier, Sonic has not yet reach to the levels over those franchises I meant

Due to severe amount of development fuck ups and of course lack of direction

[shy frigate]

To me Superstars feels higher quality at least, Frontiers lacks in some departments and I get some lower budget vibes in some areas but I still love it and I played it for hundreds of hours

[tribal badger]

As of now Sonic just has a long way to go, but now SEGA finally found what they need over the series

[shy frigate]

Yes

[fickle burrow]

quality =/= cost though

[short lark]

Superstars just had better presentation and marketing.

[shy frigate]

It is a great start in the right direction

[short lark]

Frontiers left a terrible first impression when we actually saw it in action.

[fickle burrow]

im just saying a model like giganto doesnt come from a low budget game do you know how much shit is going on with his textures and shit its insane 😭

[shy frigate]

Yeah as I said it's the vibes that make me have opinions, ideas that are personal

[hoary trench]

If this franchise just continues to get around 6-7/10 games, this fandom might get worse than ever. I don’t mind current direction of the series, but looking at how people react to it. It somehow more hostile than over 5 years ago when the franchise quite frankly was complete dogshit and most people were on the same page

[tribal badger]

Honestly? Review scores are like that

I'm sorry but it's the truth

Problem with reviewers is how bias they can be when it comes to the series

[fickle burrow]

this game is def better than a 7 imo though 100%

like im not done, still playing through trips story

but

[shy frigate]

Nah Sonic is divise in general, hated by critics and some gamers, the fandom overanalyzes any minor shit

[tribal badger]

It's why you rarely seen LaD franchise ever gotten over 90 nowadays despite being SEGA' most successful franchise

[fickle burrow]

its a 9 from me i think

[tribal badger]

Yeah it's just common sense

[fickle burrow]

which is higher than i give frontiers despite loving frontiers at its best more

[tribal badger]

Reviewers are just vague when it comes to shit like that

[shy frigate]

I think this should be expected, varied opinions

I don't believe we will get in a phase where Sonic is universally praised by fans and critics

[tribal badger]

^

[fickle burrow]

i liked this game better than mania for sure, not as much as 3&k. mania does have better presentation overall though

[tribal badger]

Sonic is still divisive af

[fickle burrow]

like the mania ost and visuals are better

[shy frigate]

Online is still a much better place than in 2014 - 2017

[short lark]

I said this a while ago and people gave me the raised eyebrow. 💀

[hoary trench]

Sonic Mania feels like a lightning in a bottle where both general & fans were in the same page

[fickle burrow]

but the gameplay in this game feels much more like 3&k to me which i 100% prefer

[short lark]

Divisiveness is just the natural state for Sonic at this point.

[shy frigate]

Yeah between Lost World, Boom and Forces

Mania is like the oasis

[fickle burrow]

also idk how people are saying this game is slow, if u play good u play fast like most sonics

[short lark]

I’m surprised Superstars ISN’T a slam dunk.

[shy frigate]

You talking about reviewers and "Sonic is supposed to be fast"?

[fickle burrow]

yeah and i also saw a few twitter takes like that

[short lark]

You’d think with all that’s going for it, it would’ve hit just like Mania did.

[fickle burrow]

its literally just the OST and visuals man 😭

[shy frigate]

I think most fans are defending the game on this

[short lark]

And the bosses and Trip’s story too

[fickle burrow]

neither of these are bad imo (not done with trip tho)

[short lark]

And the weird janky co-op

[fickle burrow]

oh yeah

[shy frigate]

I really have ignored the ost because of how forgettable and 4 like it is

[fickle burrow]

co op is a major L apperantly

but i havent tried it

and not really planning to tbh

[hoary trench]

I think costing 60 dollars also did the game dirty

[shy frigate]

I will try Co op today

[tribal badger]

co op is always a huge pain to handle it well really

[hoary trench]

I’m not gonna lie

[tribal badger]

Even Mario suffers from this too

[fickle burrow]

for sure

[balmy cipher]

do I have to spoiler tag my messages?

in here at least

[fickle burrow]

i dont think so

[balmy cipher]

cuz I beat the main story

[fickle burrow]

bc this is the spoiler channel

[balmy cipher]

oh ok

[hoary trench]

If this game was at a budgeted price like Mega Man 11

[tribal badger]

I still say 3D World is the worst Mario game multiplayer wise

[hoary trench]

It would’ve sting less

[shy frigate]

I beat the base story with emeralds now, onto Trip

[balmy cipher]

can I ask on the fact WHY IS THERE A SECOND STORY MODE?!?!

[fickle burrow]

honestly i actually really liked the bosses in this game

[fickle burrow]

bc its a different campaign slightly

when you play as trip

[hoary trench]

Bosses is just funny because when I hear any complaints about them, it just sounds like Mania bosses all over again

[shy frigate]

I don't mind personally, it's like a hard mode

[fickle burrow]

usually you have to switch characters for character specific acts but trip has different level design for all acts and she plays all acts

[hoary trench]

and yet, barely anyone was batting a eye on that

[shy frigate]

Haven't tried yet though, but that is what it seems

[fickle burrow]

these bosses are way better than mania's imo

[shy frigate]

This makes Trip the most playable character in this game lol

[hoary trench]

Its already better by the fact that there is no lives system

[fickle burrow]

theyre not spammable in the way sonic bosses usually are but what they do instead is really neat

and also they are kinda spammable usually if you use your emerald powers

[hoary trench]

So I won’t have to redo the zone again when some of these bosses suck all my lives away

[fickle burrow]

not all the time but sometimes they are

[balmy cipher]

why is she there on my save?

[shy frigate]

As I said, I liked 99% of the bosses, because they change patterns and attacks even though they take long, I liked them because of different phases

Funnily enough I always forget to activate the clones

[fickle burrow]

i kinda liked that they take a little bit of time other than the fang boss in golden capital

[shy frigate]

Yeah

[fickle burrow]

that one dragged on a little too much for me

[balmy cipher]

GDYUGHSAYIHDUISAHI

[fickle burrow]

the final boss of the main story was a little long but it felt fitting

[fickle burrow]

did u not know she was playable lol

[balmy cipher]

I NEVER CHECK HERE LOL

[shy frigate]

Btw the last time we had more than 1 female character in a platformer, was 06, Fire and Ice if you count Boom

Playable

[fickle burrow]

shes pretty fun, she plays like the spike wisp kinda

[balmy cipher]

girl thinks she's him

[fickle burrow]

her stages are very uh

dimps

but they work

imo

[tribal badger]

Spike wisp sucks anyways

[shy frigate]

I like spikes gameplay though

[tribal badger]

Generations made me hated Spike 💀

[fickle burrow]

i mean its aight but wisps are generally meh in how theyre implemented imo

[tidal isle]

I think the pits could work cause of her ability giving you the chance to save yourself, but the spikes could have stayed in the drafts

[shy frigate]

I might enjoy Trip's gameplay

[fickle burrow]

yeah probably lmao

[balmy cipher]

this ain't Meow Skulls

[shy frigate]

Totally forgot they were (hell) in that

[fickle burrow]

still havent gotten the green chaos emerald btw 😭

[modest arch]

the 2nd half of the game

[tribal badger]

I mean

That's most classic sonic games really

[fickle burrow]

the main game?

or trips story

[tribal badger]

*looks at Sonic 2 *

[fickle burrow]

bc i had no issues with the latter half of the main game

[shy frigate]

Btw I got a game crash when I played Golden Capital act 1, various times, on switch (not emulated)

[tribal badger]

Yeah honestly this is standard classic sonic games

[modest arch]

2nd half of main and onward from what i'm seeing

[shy frigate]

I should report it

[tribal badger]

Again

That's usual classic sonic games lmao

[fickle burrow]

huh

[balmy cipher]

oh thank god I still have all of the emeralds

[modest arch]

just something i've seen in general

it feels like most of the complaints come from there

[fickle burrow]

idk i usually suck at 2D sonic and i managed the latter half pretty fine

[modest arch]

biz and sjz are good

[shy frigate]

Imagine it was like Encore mode special stages

[fickle burrow]

didnt die a lot or anything in stages

and i died a bit in bosses but theres no lives system so it didnt really bother me

only stage i didnt like that much was golden capital bc the main gimmick felt a little finicky

[modest arch]

yeah

lack of lives will help make it feel a little less difficult

[fickle burrow]

idk sonic 3&k has much harder level design than this in its latter half

[shy frigate]

Same, the final boss though, I needed Amy, I even liked said boss, it's not too hard (there may be tougher ones later I am sure) it reminded of Rush's normal final boss

[fickle burrow]

(talking main game still not done with trips story)

[tribal badger]

It honestly is

Just that with 3&k you breeze it through when using super/hyper

[fickle burrow]

oh, i did it with sonic

survived on 1 ring the whole fight lmao

[balmy cipher]

CoD Multiplayer if it was epic:

[shy frigate]

Question for those who finished everything ||is the last story just a secret final boss or is there more substance||?

[tidal isle]

The former

[shy frigate]

Okay

[fickle burrow]

the animations in this game are so nice man

i fucking love the smears and all

and specifically the jog cycles all feel really bouncy and i like em a lot

look at the her jump ball its so nice

also she takes out her mask in her idle and thats just

so cute

she fr has 3 seperate jumpballs

[balmy cipher]

What the fuck

[fickle burrow]

for spindashing, jumping and double jumping/climbing

[balmy cipher]

her Super form is broken too

[rapid shuttle]

Me the other day 😭

[balmy cipher]

like you can break levels in 2 just by having her super form

[fickle burrow]

im ngl i think overall these anims are the best anims in any 3D sonic ever

I HAVENT SEEN WATER TAILS BEFORE WHY IS HE SO SILLY LMAO

[modest arch]

little water gremlin

[tidal isle]

Cute

[toxic canopy]

They really shouldn’t be selling that game with that $60 price tag.

[fickle burrow]

its prob gonna be on sale all the time tbh

[hoary trench]

Frontiers was on sales in less than 2 weeks after it came out

[fickle burrow]

i think the 60$ price tag is entirely for fans at launch and they dont expect the avarage consumer to pay it

[fickle burrow]

i think its gonna go on sale even sooner and more often, they dont have as much money they need to make back and they also know this isnt worth as much as frontiers

[hoary trench]

Sega games in general especially during the holidays go on sales so fucking quickly after they are out

Not just Sonic

Yakuza, Persona, and etc

They prioritize number of sales

[toxic canopy]

My heart is telling me that Sonic Kooperkarts is going to drown in the sea of Wonder and SM2, but there might be a chance that Poopersharts can stay afloat given that there’s a lotta new sonico fans

[fickle burrow]

i think its movie 3 will get it and frontiers a good amount of sales when that rolls around

[crude kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-superstars-superstars-super-paper-mario-boss-boss-design-gif-16838341294083009520

[rapid shuttle]

...yeah

[crude kelp]

After frontiers and the movies, there's a bunch more sonic fans so I think the game will be fine.

[rapid shuttle]

My concern is that the game will sell well and their response will be do more of the same and not properly expand on it.

[rustic fable]

SEGA giving us hope in 2022 and 2023

https://tenor.com/view/rise-of-the-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-movie-leonardo-we-still-have-hope-a-ninjas-greatest-weapon-hey-i-like-that-gif-26665836

[rapid shuttle]

Plus expand on the stuff I didnt like in Superstars....like the bosses

[modern pebble]

Erm… was the phantom ruby and tying to forces not enough…

[zealous spindle]

Ngl the phantom ruby stuff was neat, I mostly dug it

[fickle burrow]

i think it was neat in concept but uh forces being forces leaves a very sour taste lmfao

[zealous spindle]

….granted shit like “oh btw I grew like five of them in a lab” was fucking dumb lol, cheers forces

(didn’t help that clearly forces was written before they decided Infinite was an actual guy and not a robot)

silver lining, though - in the early script the ruby was called “Valtron” which, yeah nah lol 💀

[modern pebble]

but that’s when it made more sense as to what it was and how it worked

[zealous spindle]

Nah still sounds dumb, sorry, tis a silly name

[magic raptor]

https://fixupx.com/sonic_show/status/1713330687674106201?s=46

[fickle burrow]

what the fuck

why is this mf following me 😭

[magic raptor]

Maybe it’s because I just woke up but I couldn’t stop laughing at this

[noble drift]

Medal collection is so fucking good

[balmy cipher]

Your renders most likely

[noble drift]

I actually have an incentive to explore and get rings

God this is all i wanted

[fickle burrow]

it gives off the same vibes as "the new mario voice actor is a PRONOUN PERSON"

[noble drift]

Just get me out of this 15fps emulation pls

[magic raptor]

Except that was 100% genuine, I think this is just a joke

[fickle burrow]

idk this person made an entire video defending sonic omens

[last bay]

Bro prob thought the plane levels were so good

[unique wedge]

What

This is insane

[boreal mirage]

All bc of a shite game

[modern pebble]

which shite game

[boreal mirage]

Superbros

[modern pebble]

LOL

I wouldn’t say allat

[boreal mirage]

Is just crazy to get mad bc of someone opinion tho

[noble drift]

Ign gave it a 7/10 anyways who cares lol

7 is good

Like its a good game thats reccommendable

[boreal mirage]

Yeah that's the thing

Is just stupid

[modern pebble]

generally speaking, yeah

[noble drift]

This reminds me of botw 7/10

[modern pebble]

but sometimes it’s justified

[boreal mirage]

Grr why Mario has a 10.and sonic a 7

Like???

[noble drift]

Like... the game is good??

Like its worth your time

Can you stop emoji reacting ill stomp

[modern pebble]

I don’t blame anyone for clowning on somebody meatriding sonic omens for example

[vast latch]

Superstars always looked like a 7 for me

[boreal mirage]

Also saying they can't take it serious bc is a girl is just stupid

[noble drift]

?!

[modern pebble]

What…

[boreal mirage]

You didn't watch the video?

[noble drift]

I have better things to do than watch sonic show

like play sonic superstars

[boreal mirage]

It's not sonic show 😭

[noble drift]

w

[modern pebble]

Of course not, why would I watch Sonic show

[noble drift]

Who said that then? Im not clicking the video lmao

[boreal mirage]

It's some other dude, doesn't sound anything like him

[modern pebble]

Oh

[unique wedge]

💀

[modern pebble]

Tbh I haven’t watched or read any superstars review aside from the tc one (obligatory)

[unique wedge]

Y'all didn't even bother clicking on it

[modern pebble]

why would I… idgaf 😭

I’m just here to vibe

[boreal mirage]

Oslwmrkf

[unique wedge]

But we were talking about it

so

idk

[boreal mirage]

Yeah I thought you guys clicked on it 😭

[modern pebble]

Not clicking allat

[boreal mirage]

But yeah he went mad cuz Mario got a 10 and sonic a 7 then saying they can't take it serious cuz is a women

[modern pebble]

Wait

Ohhhh

The IGN reviewer was a woman, right?

[noble drift]

Yep

[modern pebble]

And they’re using that against her

[noble drift]

That i saw

[boreal mirage]

Yup

[vast latch]

Bruh why does the mini boss theme sound so goofy 💀

[noble drift]

The miniboss theme is better than the boss theme lol

[modern pebble]

Okay yeah I did see one clip where she basically explained the sonic gameplay loop and how it was a flaw, but I didn’t look into it further

[noble drift]

Which sucks

[fickle burrow]

david it takes longer to write what youre writing than watching the video lmfao

[vast latch]

It's been looping in my goddamn head

[boreal mirage]

Oh that one

[vast latch]

NONSTOP

[boreal mirage]

Yeah I saw that one too but nobody insulted her I think?

Not that I saw much

[modern pebble]

True

But im in too deep to swallow my pride and watch it now

[boreal mirage]

[noble drift]

Whoa

[modern pebble]

sorry, that was a typo

[honest patio]

[toxic canopy]

I could kill this bitch just by looking at it....

[shy frigate]

I am enjoying the game more now that I am replaying the zones, might be getting use to it, exploring with the emerald powers and going hunting for medals, idk, it's getting more fun

Trip's story is fine so far, as usual I like a challenge, and of course I feel like I'm gonna regret saying this eventually

[noble drift]

I am very curious about Trip's story

[modern pebble]

I thought you played it already

[noble drift]

Nope

I am saving that one for the actual game

I already suffered enough through egg samurai with 15 fps

And input lag of hell

And from what i seen of trip story is like spike and bottomless pits everywhere

With this input lag nah ill wait a few hours lol

So instead i have been replaying every stage and farming medals

There is a few levels you cam get about 1000 rings in a single act

They really focused on rings to earn medals and it feels great

THE COLOR RESTRICTION IS FUCKING DUMB THOUGH

[fickle burrow]

yeah making em 1 use only is super annoying

[noble drift]

Its realism i didnt need in this game lol

[modern pebble]

Realism?

[fickle burrow]

paints being 1 use only

[modern pebble]

oh, paints

yea that’s funny

honestly the shop prices were a major turn off for me

what do you mean I beat the entire game and still couldn’t afford shit in the shop

[noble drift]

They should have heavily reduced the requirements

[modern pebble]

so I’m just not gonna bother w/ the shop and just focus on trying the mode every once in a while

[noble drift]

you can only 20 medals in an act if you explore it top to bottom

[modern pebble]

and I assume that involves going extremely out of your way and not playing the game normally

[noble drift]

Yep

[modern pebble]

yeah, no thanks. this gives me chao garden flashbacks lol

[noble drift]

Getting all rings you see and find portals

And even then with 20 medals you can only afford one single part

To get everything in the shop you might have to replay the levels a ton ton

They gotta learm that the best way to do this is something that affects the main game

Like character customization in the main game

People would be far invested to get character costumes with medals

are rings the equivalent of 1 cent

And 100 rings is one medal aka one dollar

[fickle burrow]

its annoying that you cant get medals by playing battle mode too

bc like thats where you would be using the medals

playing against CPUs is super easy tho

[fickle burrow]

trips super form is so broken lmfao

[modern pebble]

by both definitions of the word

[fickle burrow]

I mean I don't think I've managed to find any glitches with it yet

But like bosses are literally just waiting for the boss invincibility frames to end 😭

[honest patio]

She breaks stages that have you go back and forth between the foreground and background

[fickle burrow]

Oh

Makes sense

[boreal mirage]

Fiz after finishing trip story:

[hoary trench]

LMAO

[shy frigate]

Trip's story > Encore mode palette swaps

My pointless hot take but still

[fickle burrow]

100%

[noble drift]

Goddamn Sand Sanctuary is fucking amazing

[fickle burrow]

I mean now that you mention it if this did have a pallet swap that would be cool

[noble drift]

Suddenly best sonic desert theme has come

[fickle burrow]

Yeah fr

I think this and ares are my fav sonic sand stages

Oh also pyramid cave if that counts

[noble drift]

I really like the stages choice

Of the game

They chose really well

[shy frigate]

I do agree it would compliment the modified level design

[fickle burrow]

Yeah there's good themes here

[noble drift]

Also Frozen Base Act Tails >>>>>>> Frozen Base Act 1

https://youtu.be/iNxOuxvsKwo?si=bscYspTFeemX9-_Y

[shy frigate]

Also Trips story is something I wanted out of a possible dlc cammpaign but seeing the price it's better in the base game, I truly have no idea on how to make even more content out of this game, something like Trips story but with Fang probably

More zones?

[noble drift]

Maybe Fang DLC or whatever

[fickle burrow]

Playable fang would make sense

As DLC

Maybe new stages could also be a thing

[noble drift]

Maybe after the main story hes like screw it im taking eggman down

[shy frigate]

I would take returning zones but new level design in a dlc honestly

[noble drift]

Cuz this game feels extremely complete

Id take new levels bu since the budget is so lame

[shy frigate]

I mean from past games like Mania did

[noble drift]

Maybe some new acts each level

Ahhh returning zones as in

[hoary trench]

What even is the difference with encore mode besides visuals? 💀

[noble drift]

The existing ones

[noble drift]

Almost nothing

[fickle burrow]

Harder level design slightly

[noble drift]

At least trips level design changes are quite significant

[fickle burrow]

Not nearly as different as trips story tho

[hoary trench]

I didn’t even beat it

[fickle burrow]

But the special stages in encore mode are significantly harder

[hoary trench]

Because I already barely replay mania

[shy frigate]

Instead of lives you have every character and you can swap between two

[fickle burrow]

And also there's the character swap gimmick

[noble drift]

Like you know what i would like

If they did a proper dlc campaign

Like 3 new levels

[shy frigate]

Tbh encore mode is not harder, only the special stages, in fact the only variation in level design were the item boxes

[hoary trench]

Character swap gimmick would’ve been so cool but obtaining that just makes it barely happening

[noble drift]

Maybe a sunshine type dlc

[shy frigate]

Fang's Fury

[noble drift]

Like beaches, villages, and cascades

[hoary trench]

Imagine if they brought it back in Superstars but you can switch characters at the world map instead of finding capsules

[zealous spindle]

new music

New. Music.

[fickle burrow]

I def see them doing general occasional updates for costumes

[noble drift]

Maybe so

This is why my hope of better music is not completely dead

Properly arranged music

[hoary trench]

So Trip’s story has more significant level design differences?

[shy frigate]

Yes

[fickle burrow]

Just make the sonic 4 sounding tracks sound like this https://youtu.be/kKfoeJq99fA?si=wrbjIiNXPRdmSBbB

[shy frigate]

It's hard and is built around her spike powers

[hoary trench]

That would’ve been good, but I hear nothing but bad things about it

Calling it Dimps level design

[shy frigate]

Also, the bosses are faster in attacks, they even have new attacks

[hoary trench]

That sounds concerning

[shy frigate]

Like the Bridge Island 2 boss

[zealous spindle]

if Tee's free they should absolutely, 1000% get him to either do the whole lot or set the general sound direction yea lol

[shy frigate]

It's not, not even as hard as Frontiers update 3 or cheap like Forces bonus stages, the latter I particularly disliked

[fickle burrow]

Trip makes it barely an issue for me so far

Though I'm only 4 zones in

[zealous spindle]

like, just switch the heirachy and get Tee leading up Jun instead of the other way around

[shy frigate]

They are not uninspired like the fruit stages either, those feel like the Forces extras a bit

[zealous spindle]

this way maybe Jun will use his guitar 💀

[shy frigate]

Except the fruit acts are built to get you coins

[fickle burrow]

Fruit stages are just there to grind coins, they aren't really meant to be a stage by themselves

[shy frigate]

Trip's story hard design is kinda cheap difficult at times, but nothing really weird, it's a hard mode

I am still on zone 4 so the latter part of the story will make me eat my words

[fickle burrow]

Either way once you have 50 rings literally nothing bad can happen to you lmao

[shy frigate]

I actually don't really enjoy playing her super form, it looks like a final smash more than fully playable, I like the concept though, I wish it had more animations and control

But I guess it comes in handy

[fickle burrow]

I mean she is fully playable

You can use her for everything you would need her from what I've played

She even has a really cute grinding animation in speed jungle

Also I really like how her jumpball is literally just

Energy

[shy frigate]

Her dragon form? I only tried it a bit

[fickle burrow]

Yeah

[shy frigate]

Oh I guess I only flied with that and I did not notice the animations probably

[hoary trench]

She seems fun to play as

[fickle burrow]

I really like playing as her yeah

They also clearly spent a ton of time on her animations, bc she has 3 different jumpball models for different states, and her dragon form has a ton of unique animations that obviously you can't move across from her regular form

[shy frigate]

I need to play more of her dragon form then

[fickle burrow]

BTW if you struggle with literally any boss

Just use the dragon form it breaks all of em so far from what I've tried lmao

[short lark]

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[fickle burrow]

oh seems like she originally had a monoeye

[short lark]

One of the few things I’m glad she didn’t have.

Wish she had an Espio like eye orientation, on the side of the skull.

[fickle burrow]

idk

i feel like it wouldnt fit her as well as it does espio?

[short lark]

She’s a reptile and the reptile she’s based on has eyes on the side of the skull.

[zealous spindle]

INCREDIBLY precious

jakks get on this ASAP

"which version of he-" BOTH

[short lark]

I feel like they could’ve made anything work as long as it communicates her timid clumsy personality.

[fickle burrow]

idk man i really like her design

[short lark]

This honestly looks gross to me.

She’s trying to do thing Sungazers do but clearly doesn’t have the body shape for it.

Just bleh.

But whatever I guess, she’s cute at least.

[vast latch]

I do like how her Super form is very unique design wise

[short lark]

Same.

[fickle burrow]

btw the grinding anim i was talking about

[short lark]

Now this design I vibe with, unique, reptilian like shape and cute.

Even has the eyes on each side of the skull.

[zealous spindle]

see now

trip's standard design, perfect, no notes

her super... funniest shit I've ever seen ngl 😭😭

[toxic canopy]

spit

ting

[fickle burrow]

making her super form like this is basically means animating a whole new character which is kinda crazy

[zealous spindle]

so fucking funny that the ONE instance of a lady turning super in this series is "BECOMING A BIG ASS DRAGON"

THE ONLY ONE

AND ITS THIS

[short lark]

Honestly perfect tbh.

[fickle burrow]

i mean
blaze kinda

not exactly super but i think its as much super as this 😭

[zealous spindle]

not counting blaze, sol emeralds

[short lark]

But we finally have another Super Form holder that isn’t a goddamn male Hedgehog.

[zealous spindle]

unlike the chaos emeralds, the sol ones aren't sexist 😭😭

[noble drift]

oh hey Trip render

i hope Trip takes off, she is fucking wonderful

[fickle burrow]

peak

shes having fun in the water slides

[noble drift]

so uh

did anyone bother to play as knuckles

he feels like such an inferior character than the rest

~~again

[fickle burrow]

i mean he feels like he does in mania and 3&k to me

[zealous spindle]

big day for everyone wanting modern amy using her hammer more!!!

[unique wedge]

They change level design.. slightly

I mean, the idea didn't seem bad

But it feels like nothing

[noble drift]

the pallete change is also kinda terrible