#Sonic Superstars (spoilers)

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modern pebble
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The thing is

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My current thoughts are

toxic canopy
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me after playing the game

modern pebble
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So im looking to change that

rugged copper
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Bro I’m so down

toxic canopy
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looks like

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u need a fourth player...............

rugged copper
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Have a whole playthrough

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BRO

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4 PLAYER

uncut onyx
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Let’s do it

knotty shoal
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why is the super icon sonic

uncut onyx
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I wanna see 4 player TC

modern pebble
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Ivy is new to classic sonic though so don’t get too frustrated or anything

toxic canopy
modern pebble
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This is all just for fun

toxic canopy
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maybe tomorrow

modern pebble
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Not looking for immaculate gameplay

zealous spindle
modern pebble
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Maybe just a bit of cooporation

toxic canopy
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dont worry

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i wont even speak

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because i cant

modern pebble
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spectre you can barely join vcs, I don’t exactly trust that you wouldn’t bog down the whole parsec connection

toxic canopy
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discordia took my civil rights since the beginning of september

toxic canopy
rugged copper
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When it comes to superstars multiplayer it’s just funny af

toxic canopy
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coz like it shouldnt bog down anyone but u guys

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maybe i should cancel my spectrum plan and get a better one............

what do you guys think

knotty shoal
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FANG TOOK MY ENERALDS

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BITCH

unique wedge
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#superstars message
I think this is apparently true

modern pebble
noble drift
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You can turn the bot into metal sonic

unique wedge
knotty shoal
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This Fang boss sucks

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This boss still sucks

rapid shuttle
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They all kinda suck

rugged copper
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Bro u can do easily cheese fang

tidal isle
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Finally, people have started posting videos of the thing, took them a while

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Also, Trip's Campaign end animation is very damm cute

tribal badger
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how long is the game?

strong lodge
rugged copper
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@hot cosmos btw good luck with Trips Campaign

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If you love dimps level design

hot cosmos
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Please tell me this is a joke

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Please

rugged copper
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Look

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All I’m saying

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Get through the dimps level design

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The end is so worth it

hot cosmos
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Bruh

noble drift
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Trips final boss is insane

boreal mirage
boreal mirage
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Ye

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6 if you count trip story ig

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Since there is no strict story to each character anymore aside from trip lol

honest patio
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Alr

hollow girder
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Everything up until sand sanctuary (where i stopped) took me like 2 and a half hours💀

honest patio
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Time to dive back into trip’s story

hollow girder
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But tbf i was replaying stuff already

honest patio
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Have all the emeralds already so no hunting for me

magic raptor
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If you beat trips story and have all the chaos emeralds ||you unlock the final story apparently||

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||you fight a big purple dragon thing as Super Sonic||

honest patio
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Finished trip’s speed jungle

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fang was out for blood after that “betrayal”, holy 😭

unique wedge
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Crazy

rapid shuttle
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yall...

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this is what people think the Sonic 1 special stage sounds like

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I feel insulted

long orbit
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it's kinda pleasant

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the actual special stage tho...

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banger

rapid shuttle
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this is some Ice cream truck type beat

long orbit
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I think it does the job better than Sonic 4's attempt at Sonic 1 Special Stage

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i don't even remember it

rapid shuttle
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i'll give you that

long orbit
noble drift
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I like this one

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Yea the special stage music rules

rapid shuttle
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oh yeah, that one is pretty alright

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I think I just kind of don't like the first begining's composition of the song, but it gets a little better later on.

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that or maybe im biased im not sure

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I just know I like Sonic 1's special stage theme

agile lotus
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If I hear the Green Hill Zone hi-top again, I'm gonna shoot up Sega Headquarters in their new hit-game Hyenas

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oh wait....

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they cancelled hyenas

rapid shuttle
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thats probably why you're paying 60$ for Superstars

noble drift
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Btw i really liked Golden Capital Act 2?

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Its cute it sounds like Sonic Overture

uncut onyx
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A lot of the non jun senoue sounding music sounds like something from other games or fangames

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For example I get mad srb2 vibes from pinball carnival act 2 and sky temple

boreal mirage
zealous spindle
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Here's Mecha Sonic in Battle Mode, specifically the race mini game. We can see how his spin jump and "spin" dash work. #SonicSuperstars

↘️ Quoting The Dooms🐀 (@Dooms_Eye)

@sonicstadium Can you show the Mecha Sonic skin in action in multiplayer? I wanna see if it does the ball thing from Sonic 2 (it probably doesn't but hey)

▶ Play video
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LOOKIT HIM GO

knotty shoal
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"act 1"

knotty shoal
unique wedge
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Tails is dead

knotty shoal
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Slowing down time doesn’t even allow me to pass it either

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Maybe it’s an emulator issue

uncut onyx
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This shit slaps

zealous spindle
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Bless their souls, they definitely tried

but minifig proportions be like that sometimes LMAO

uncut onyx
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Here’s your modern sonic game 😭

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These are so funny to look at

zealous spindle
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Incredibly skrunkly lol

rapid shuttle
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so ummm...I reached this point with Trip and I don't have the power they want me to use....

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the thing is I looked for alternate path ways and they all blocked the same way
....please tell me they didn't made this a requierment...

agile pawn
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Superstars is at a 75 now

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It's in the green

zealous spindle
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Like they don’t stick out as much as you’d think the idea would, they just

work

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maybe they should’ve just made a Lego sonic game lol

noble drift
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Same metacritic as generations btw

zealous spindle
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God I really wanna see how they rigged up those minifig models, some interesting stuff going on with em

agile pawn
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I hope Arzest learns from the faults of this game and makes a better 2D Sonic game next time, this game fumbled a bit

noble drift
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I mean they had mania as the perfect template they just didnt want to do it

agile pawn
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They wanted to do something new

rapid shuttle
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THIS ISNT FAIR

noble drift
tidal isle
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Trip staying idle being her noticing you are looking at her and putting the helmet back on in embarrasement is so cute

tidal isle
strong lodge
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I think kenji mizuno did this one it's a clinically insane track

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The one I posted I mean

knotty shoal
rapid shuttle
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Golden Capital was the one level that made me go "Woow, this level would be so pretty if it wasnt in this game"

knotty shoal
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Twerks

rapid shuttle
rugged copper
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Btw we still up for the multiplayer? @modern pebble?

modern pebble
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she’s at the theater rn

rugged copper
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Got u

honest patio
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they’re getting real comfortable with these bottomless pits in trip’s story huh feelsoldman

hoary trench
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This how the Sand Sanctuary looks on PS5 btw

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Does someone have a comparison with the switch version?

hoary trench
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Any footages?

boreal mirage
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doubt it

hoary trench
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Found footage

noble drift
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Textures are severly muddled

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And the ps5 textures are nothing great either

hoary trench
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Yeah, but at least with PS5 version. Textures makes the simple visuals look less distracting

honest patio
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Double the file size for a mild visual upgrade is a little funny

hoary trench
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Something about the colors is also just lost in translation for the switch version

noble drift
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Is not color

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Is shadow

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Switch version has no shadow

hoary trench
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Yeah, Shadow as a character is clearly missing here

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Hehehe

noble drift
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The fruit was in the floor

honest patio
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Man

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Trip’s Sky Temple was not fun at all

modest arch
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the trip level designs don't look as fun as the main game

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too much spike spam

noble drift
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if you didnt like sky temple you are not gonna enjoy the rest

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Trip is basically Dimps level design at its worst

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Its crazy

honest patio
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The urge to just turn super and skip the entire stage consumes

modest arch
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should have reeled the young level designers in.....

rugged copper
hoary trench
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Oh no. This sounds bad

honest patio
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It’s like the design philosophy was to put spikes everywhere, make you run into the most annoying enemies possible at every turn, and remove the floor just because

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Trip is fun to play as but these levels for her ain’t it

uncut onyx
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Ok but deadass why does the PS5 version look more like a Wii U game than the NINTENDO switch

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Like Jesus man that new console better fix up the graphics in the future

honest patio
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Nah it’s not even on the switch this time

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Just shitty optimization

noble drift
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Yea like... its clearl the switch can run the ps5 version

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Its just that

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Very terrible optimisation

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Switch is about the same power as wii u

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Wii u is not more powerful, its weaker

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Sega just gave up on optimizing their games

short lark
wide plank
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just spent a whole hour actually decompiling the game since AssetStudio produces errors for all the materials/shaders so... had to click ok on every single one. BRUH anyways time to finally extract the Badnik models cause that's all I care for

uncut onyx
noble drift
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Yes it is

uncut onyx
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It just goes for most third party ports ):

noble drift
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Dude

short lark
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It definitely ain’t just Sega

noble drift
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Its not the switches fault superstars looks like a 3ds game

uncut onyx
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Yeah ik ik

short lark
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A lot of third party ports are scuffed.

uncut onyx
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But it ain’t just sega

honest patio
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SPAMMING SPIKES ENEMIES AND BOTTOMLESS PITS ISN’T HOW YOU DESIGN A CHALLENGING SET OF LEVELS ARZEST

wide plank
uncut onyx
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Context

short lark
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Even the ports where the game devs actually try are noticeably scuffed. The Witcher 3 got hit fucking hard.

wide plank
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part of Knuckles' model

uncut onyx
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In superstars?

wide plank
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took an hour+ to finally get these to open lol

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yes

uncut onyx
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Huh

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Can’t tell if that’s modern or classic knuxs

wide plank
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classic knux

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sonic and eggman do not reuse the gen models btw

uncut onyx
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I can tell 💀

wide plank
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tails too

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a lot of people have been saying "oh they reused them"

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but no lol

agile pawn
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I hope the next Switch is strong cause clearly Sega is focusing on Switch system games for their Sonic players and it's hurting the games

noble drift
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And somehow they are not making it their priority

short lark
noble drift
wide plank
short lark
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The visuals are really lacking and it’s pretty disappointing ngl.

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But fortunately if the game is fun I won’t care.

uncut onyx
noble drift
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?

uncut onyx
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Oh arcade game

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Mb

short lark
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Lol

noble drift
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You thought i was slandering gens again huyh lol

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I was talking about sonic 4 ep 2

wide plank
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It's weird that they opted to make 3D models for basically every VFX, even ones where they could've just used a sprite (i.e star-shaped flashes and whatnot)

short lark
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Tbh, as much as they assumed 3D would be more appealing compared to sprites. I think Superstars looks noticeably cheaper lol.

modest arch
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@wide plank is there any progress on ripping the levels?

wide plank
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I only plan on ripping Badnik models for personal use Knuckles

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But I have found all of the level geometries, albeit it's all split up by models

hoary trench
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Have you found anything interesting about this game whiles digging through stuff?

wide plank
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Not yet

modern pebble
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@wide plank got my own q: Previously i did my own research when it came to decompiling unity games, and it seems like you can also extract source code depending on the game. Is that the case here?

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Unity games are very easy to hack; this tutorial will show you how to prevent hackers from modifying your game, and how to check if they are at risk.

kodeco.com

In this tutorial, you’ll use ILSpy and AssetStudio to extract code and assets from a compiled Unity game.

wide plank
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We won't be able to do that until we have the PC version of the game since that'll have the .exe

modern pebble
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Okay, sounds like it should be possible then

wide plank
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At least from what I know, but yes when the PC version is released you'll be able to get the source code

modern pebble
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I’d actually like to pitch in with this, as i want to try my hand at reversing something that isn’t an Unreal or Flash game

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If there’s a server where people will be working on this then let me know

wide plank
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I'm sure Beatz will have it reverse engineered within a week max. I'm not going to go that far with things. I just want some of the Badniks so I can repurpose them for my project 👀

modern pebble
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This could be legendary in terms of moddability for a modern (not with a capital M) Sonic game

modest arch
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i hope custom levels are possible

wide plank
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welp nvm extracting stuff. Mario Wonder just leaked. I'm off

wise kiln
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How the hell has no one posted the dragon boss yet

honest patio
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Good

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Let me find it myself ‼️

uncut onyx
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^

agile lotus
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Tried to fill out the level with some basic Aresenal Pyramid objects and damn does it make it look a bit more alive

agile pawn
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should we make a spoiler thread for Wonder

hoary trench
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It got dumped online?!

modern pebble
agile pawn
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where should I put it

boreal mirage
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I personally dont think the background is the problem really

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the stages and the art is just bland

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could be just bc is switch screeshot k3llyShrug

agile lotus
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Nah it's the background lol

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Like Golden Capital looks great and that's Superstars lmao

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It just has a good background

agile lotus
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even if its the switch ver

boreal mirage
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💀

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is there a screenshot of ps5 version

honest patio
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Yeah nah I’m done

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I’ll finish the rest later

boreal mirage
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have fun

honest patio
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Trip’s levels are so genuinely unfun lol

boreal mirage
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oh

agile lotus
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wtf the ps5 ver blurs the background

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why

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the switch version has like no lighting whilst the ps5 version blurs out everything for no reason

boreal mirage
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cuz the background looks reall low quality so

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it has more stuff at least

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looks better that way honestly

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is less distracting

agile lotus
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Can't wait for the PC code to remove Depth of Field

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And other mods to make the game look better

honest patio
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I eat shit like Luigi U up

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But this is just bad 😭

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People talk about update 3’s sense of artificial difficulty but this feels way worse

agile lotus
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I played the two levels of Superstars Trip playthrough and it's fine

honest patio
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Bridge Island and Speed Jungle are fine

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Wait until you get to Sky Temple

agile lotus
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maybe it's a ski-skill issue

honest patio
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Nah it’s just shit design

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Spamming enemies spikes and pits around every corner isn’t how you should design a challenging stage lmao

agile lotus
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You telling me they made a better track and replaced it with beep boop retro shit

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Man I'm dead

modern pebble
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Superstars continues now in vc

agile lark
agile lark
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Peak

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Brother gave us lyricism without tears among other things

tribal badger
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i wonder why they didnt bother cracking down on street date leaks

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it just kinda feels like the game is out already now

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people are just uploading videos and music and shit

modest arch
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so no one to get the videos removed over the weekend

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everything's gonna be spoiled by monday at this rate

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just waiting for someone to post the true ending online

agile lotus
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Act 1 is so fun and then it cucks you with a boring ass Act 2

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had an epifany, act 2 was made for the slow down gimmick all along

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omg

agile lotus
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LMAOOO

noble drift
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I am honestly curious to see if there is anyway to play trips story optimally

tribal badger
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bro LOL

tidal isle
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lmao

noble drift
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I'm in love with this track

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It truly screams

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||Fang the Sniper wants to Hunt||

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||like i am still in shock, i cannot wait for people to get to this part blind, cuz i dont think anyone was counting on fang being one of the hardest sonic bosses over eggman||

modest arch
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all the music

tidal isle
modest arch
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cyber station?

noble drift
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Yep

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And press factory

rapid shuttle
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you know, my own psychology facinates me sometimes...

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im saying this because I decided to pick up the game again after yasterday where I didn't stop writing in all caps about how I hate this...

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but now...im oddly enjoying this...

noble drift
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Yep

rapid shuttle
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idk if its a second playthrough effect or maybe I just let my fraustration out or something...

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but I don't think its that bad anymore

noble drift
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Maybe you werent expecting it to be the way it is

rapid shuttle
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maybe Sonic games just suck on first playthroughs idk

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and I don't mean just in the "idk the level yet" type of way.

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becuase I was not particularly bad at the game when I was playing for the most part, I just kind of had my brain off most of the time

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"going through the motions" as I herd someone say once

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these bosses still kind suck tho

noble drift
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Nah skill issue uwu/jk

hoary trench
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I'm watching bosses that I have seem and then compare it Mania bosses

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I genuinely don't see the difference

tribal badger
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I don't find mania boss music that great eitheer

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Only exception to me are th e exclusive ones like puyo puyo boss, metal sonic, and the final boss

hoary trench
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Mania bosses take forever too when you aren’t being reckless and yet, I have seem barely anyone complaining about it

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Superstars takes the same page and now its a issue

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Hell, it should be less obnoxious in Superstars because the game has no lives system

noble drift
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But cheeseeee

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Mania bosses u can cheese

tidal isle
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Go Hi Spec Robo is great

noble drift
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I love how we praise cheese like it is a good thing

hoary trench
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When I’m not having fun

noble drift
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Exactly what im saying

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Mania bosses suck, all of them lmao

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They all feel like wastes of time while Superstars bosses are more intricate and challenging

hoary trench
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Seriously. Several Mania bosses just sucks all my lives and then I have to do the zone from start again

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I’m sorry, but that just way more tedious than dying a boss fight that takes more than 3 minutes and only sends me back to the checkpoint forever because this game has no lives system

tribal badger
tidal isle
modest arch
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what do you guys think of this fantasy zone level

noble drift
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I liked it a lot

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Its easy and simple

tribal badger
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okay nah this is cool as hell

limpid trellis
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oh yeah

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It was epic

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I've played through bridge island only so far

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I wanna get that secret ending that everyone's been wondering about

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I doubt it has anything to do with the emeralds cause even after you obtain them it only gives you that Eggman boss fight

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Maybe something with Trip?

modest arch
unique wedge
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Compared to gens/forces

uncut onyx
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The press factory boss theme is stuck in my head

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Also I’m surprised no one has actually posted the true final boss yet

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W

strong lodge
tidal isle
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Well that was a cool fight

uncut onyx
wise kiln
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This looks pretty cool actually
Glad they're not slacking with the Classic super fights

tribal badger
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||Bro the fact the first monster of the week is a literal dragon is so fucking sick||

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||WAIT IT'S AN 3D FIGHT!?||

uncut onyx
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Sort of ye

tribal badger
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||Still tho. This is legit dope||

uncut onyx
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Anyways after watching the full game now

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||fuck frontiers, this shit way better in my opinion 💀||

wise kiln
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You people flipflop like it's second nature

tribal badger
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I didn't lmao

wise kiln
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You act like two legends cannot coexist

tribal badger
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||But nah this and Frontiers are easily what Super Sonic should be||

uncut onyx
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Maybe because this one I didn’t have any expectations so that’s why I’m more happy about it?

tribal badger
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Super Sonic really has the biggest W in like years holy hell

uncut onyx
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Fr

tidal isle
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||I look at it and think "Trip's Dad"||

wise kiln
uncut onyx
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||bro came back with the milk 💀||

tidal isle
# wise kiln Wait what?

Like, I dunno the context cause well, its a classic game, but thats what I think when I look at its design lol

wise kiln
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Design of what???

wise kiln
tidal isle
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||Ye||

wise kiln
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I...you...you know what

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Fair

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I'm the one who wrote a whole thread on ||The God of Chaos||

tidal isle
wise kiln
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I have no right to judge

tidal isle
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Lmao

wise kiln
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Though I think it's more likely that they're ||just descendants of the same species or something||

tidal isle
tidal isle
strong lodge
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why doesn't super knuckles have his faster glide and climbing pain

late flint
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How to get true final boss ending?

wise kiln
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Did we actually get any lore on ||the dragons in-game? Any manuals||

modest arch
noble drift
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I think is all from context

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Not the best form of story telling but you can get whats going on

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||trip is part of a tribe made to seal the evil dragon with the special jewel, but due to eggman and fang messing up the islands and distracting trip from her guarding, the evil dragon is unsealed and trip and sonic have to seal it again||

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Is nothing crazy, is pretty simple

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It is basically 3k 2

tidal isle
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||would be cool If they had a rematch in a modern game where the dragon gets unsealed again and it just gets washed by the stronger adult sonic instead of re-sealed||

honest patio
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opens my tl and the first thing i see is someone make a whole ass thread about superstars glitches 😭

wise kiln
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Also why did Trip team up with Eggman and Fang in the first place

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Did imprisoning a bunch of animals not, idk, tip her off

tidal isle
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I think she was just threatened and scared, given how the Fang comic ends

noble drift
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I guess she was scared?

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Like she seems very meek, afraid and clumsy in general

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Like she maybe was given this duty of protecting thenislands but never really ran into danger before Eggman and Fang

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And the Golden Capital face off was her having enough of it

wise kiln
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Goooood I want

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Trip lor

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Lrow

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Lore

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Are the Sungazers like the Echidnas? Is she the last or does she have family? Are they descended from dragons like the Chao are from the Ancients? ARE DRAGONS A THING NOW???

noble drift
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Honestly she seems like a mirror of knuckles but instead of being a master at treasure hunting and making her own traps

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She is totally unprepared to what happend to her

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||And it seems that after she betrays fang, he hyjacks the egg fortress and finishes his mecha fang robot, so he can take revenge on her, this time trip having to go alone to face him off for the sake of her island||

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||she is fucking great i love her dearly, might be one of my favorite sonic characters now||

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||girl failure queen||

hoary trench
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Gotta asked

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|| Do you have to collect chaos emeralds again on Trip’s story? ||

noble drift
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||nope it seems the emeralds are entirely optional||

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||storywise there is nothing to unlock with em||

wise kiln
hoary trench
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|| Oh wow. You have all the emerald powers at the start with her campaign? ||

noble drift
strong lodge
wise kiln
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With them bringing back forgotten Classic characters and canonizing them in the Modern era, I honestly would take them coming back over the IDW cast being introduced to the games

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Don't get me wrong, Tangle and Whisper and the crew are great, but idk how to explain it

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IDW feels like it has this different tone?

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And also there's some baggage with explaining their shit

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Also, bring back Honey please

noble drift
tribal badger
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IDW I will say is the perfect way to bring the classic chars

knotty shoal
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I hope I can switch my save file from yuzu emulator to the pc version when it comes out

boreal mirage
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I don't think you can

unique wedge
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I mean

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If they don't handle the save files differently

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I don't see why not

knotty shoal
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It was possible with Frontiers

unique wedge
strong lodge
boreal mirage
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Idk how unity save files work

unique wedge
agile lotus
tribal badger
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I doubt

agile lotus
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I kind of want Ray and Mighty to look normal

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Even if they have the Modern Sonic body template (they definetly will)

tribal badger
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They'll probably go with what Minecraft texture pack is using

agile lotus
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Modern Ray def gonna just have Modern Sonic's model imma be real lmao

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I swear

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lmaoooo this is straight up what their designs are gonna be lol

tribal badger
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I mean it's pretty much a no brainer

agile lotus
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Sad tho

tribal badger
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Mighty and Ray at their core design are basically from Sonic but their own gimmicks

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Even Mania Plus made it a dead giveaway

agile lotus
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Mighty does use his Sonic ball body for his media but the ovalur skinny tall thing was cool from a lot of the arts

unique wedge
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I feel like it would be difficult to make Mighty look good and fit with a Modern design

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Especially with his shell

agile lotus
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They look goofy ahh but at least they were unique

unique wedge
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Nah

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Wtf is this

tribal badger
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bro those are literal concept arts

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Come on Freeze

unique wedge
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They don't look any good 😭

agile lotus
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Ray straight up looks like Sonic in a lot of arts (and his sprites bc they are reskins)

tribal badger
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Yeah because that's what they basically are

unique wedge
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Can you stop saying Ray and showing Mighty

agile lotus
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But the arts (IDW comic and his Chaotix artwork) looks way better

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Like he looks like his own unique character with his own body shape

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Whilst this is just straight up Sonic and that's dissapointing bc this is like stock Mighty lol

boreal mirage
boreal mirage
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Quill yourself

agile lotus
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Erm

boreal mirage
noble drift
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Ok lemme tell you what superstars did waaaay better this time around

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||incredibly climatic and cool final bosses||

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||egg samurai, mecha fang and the dragon were all really cool tense bosses that i was hoping for||

wise kiln
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Also how does Mighty like

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Turn his head

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Move his neck

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His head, neck, and spine are practically fused

tribal badger
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Altho if Mighty and Ray do appear in modern I can see both of them start off by interacting with Knuckles

honest patio
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A slope sent me directly into a bottomless pit

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great design 👍

modern pebble
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best classic sonic game

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finally, a real challenge

modern pebble
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happened multiple times in diff levels

honest patio
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Fr

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I enjoy the main game

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But the only way I’m able to tolerate Trip’s story is having her super form, having the game on mute so I can listen to a podcast, and the promise that something super cool is at the end

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This is so shit man 😭

modern pebble
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yeah trips playthrough actively brings down the whole experience since it’s required for the true ending

honest patio
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TRUE ENDING? 💀

modern pebble
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her more challenging platforming sections: sure, ill take it
automation and enemy placement guaranteeing that I can’t use the super form that I grinded for: go fuck yourself

honest patio
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I thought it was just an extra thing

modern pebble
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yeah

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you unlock the Last Story

honest patio
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Yeah this really brings down my thoughts on the game if this is the bs you have to go through to get the true ending

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If it was just a side thing you could do if you want to, like I THOUGHT it was

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I would still be angry but it’s still optional

modern pebble
#

yea if you choose not to do trips story then all you’re left with are those unsatisfying final bosses

honest patio
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This new ending better give me the serotonin boost of a life time, istg

modern pebble
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🫡

hoary trench
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This sounds rough to hear. I can’t wait for the overall package to be soured with Trip’s campaign

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If it sounds that painful

agile lotus
noble drift
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I still havent finished trips story i wanna see how i feel about it

hoary trench
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Damn

honest patio
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anyways onto trip egg fortress

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god save me from whatever awaits

rapid shuttle
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im still trying to get the emeralds

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one more

honest patio
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also you cannot convince me that this isn't a blatant nod to the end

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especially with how close it is compared to everything else in the background

tidal isle
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No way it isn't

unique wedge
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They make it too obvious

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It's apparently in the level select

honest patio
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HUH\

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Lemme go out

tribal badger
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The fact that it’s just chilling while being sealed is terrifying

tidal isle
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Imagine they retroactively added a purple moon in the sky everytime they remade or remastered a game in the future

honest patio
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oh hello

strong lodge
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oh my gad the foreshadowing

honest patio
#

the lore team strikes again………..

boreal mirage
#

I thought it was about the thing you slide through in the air lmao

hoary trench
#

Are there even much character specific acts?

boreal mirage
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There's 1 per zone I think

last bay
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Every zone has an Act Fruit right? but does a character only get one act exclusive to them in the entire game?

unique wedge
last bay
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woooooow

noble drift
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:p

honest patio
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This fang boss pain

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So not only is the boss just tedious and annoying

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The game decided to fuck me over here and just not transition

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And since the timer doesn’t run out and kill you and restart you back to the check point

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The only way I can get out of this is to restart the level from the beginning nuero

toxic canopy
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WORST FUCKING GAME

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ZERO OUT OF 10

rapid shuttle
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me too

toxic canopy
magic raptor
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Hey does anyone have a picture of the giant bunny

shy frigate
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Does anybody know how to access the final special stage easily

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Because I am only finding blue rings atm

modern pebble
honest patio
#

So I kind of realized

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What’s the deal with the bosses in Superstars

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At least the harder ones

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The best way I can describe it is that they kind of treat it like Cuphead

You fight the boss and die again and again until you learn how to properly dodge it’s attack patterns and go in for a hit

I think this is the most blatantly obvious with Fang’s auto scroll fight, his fight at the end of Trip’s Story, and the regular final boss

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Because chances are, going into them for the first time, you will die at least once

noble drift
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Yea

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They are very much the super boss type

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Where you will die trying to figure out what to do

honest patio
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Yep

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Thing is

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I don’t know if this works for Sonic specifically

noble drift
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It kinda doesnt

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They should have made the boss move faster and less break times

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The thing about super bosses is that they have to be like

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fast

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These are too slow

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There is a lot of waiting time

honest patio
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The thing is too is that it doesn’t really match well with the game in general imo

noble drift
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Hmm

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Honestly it van match but they should have put an emphasis on it

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I dont really mind bosses where i die trying to figure out wihat to do cuz we have no lives

honest patio
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Cuphead at its core is kind of a game where they expect you to trial and error over and over until you come to the solution, it’s the vibe with it’s run and gun stages and with the bosses

Superstars is challenging in its latter half, but it’s the kind that you can get by in your first run if you know what you’re doing

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So having this kind of sudden shake up

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Is jarring

noble drift
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Its not jarring to me

honest patio
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And can leave you frustrated

noble drift
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Its very

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Oldschool

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Its very much mario 3 difficulty spike

honest patio
#

That’s true

noble drift
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Where you go through the easiest world to the hardest

honest patio
#

But I don’t think it works

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Maybe if they took a different approach it could

noble drift
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I think it does but i understand why it doesnt for people

honest patio
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But not with this I fear

noble drift
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Honestly sonic ditched lives

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Next time he should ditch rings

honest patio
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If they had lives in this game

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Lmao

noble drift
#

:)

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And im not fucking joking

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Give him a goddamn health bar

honest patio
#

I don’t think you can ever get rid of rings entirely

noble drift
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The reasin why we have insta kill stuff is cuz of the ring system

honest patio
#

They’re pretty much tied to him

noble drift
#

Make them some kind of health system or level up

#

Like bottomless pis are all cuz anything else can be cheesed

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Bottomless pits and crushing is the only way you can easily die in sonic

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You can make a stage full of spikes and rings but you will always stay alive

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Cuz you have at least 1 ring that you need to keep at all times

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The ring system needs to change

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Even for 2d sonic

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With a health bar they could actually go crazy with bosses

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Focusing on taking your health little by little than knockback and having that one ring to save you

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Its a flawed system

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So much that mania is piss easy cuz of it, you wont die to anything aside crushing in that game

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Ring system needs to change.

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Both 3d sonic and 2d sonic need it

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Specially if they want to be more ambitious about it

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The only way sonic can be hard is through actual bullshit

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2d sonic

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Cuz people do not like bottomless pits or crushing?

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Well me neither

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Thats the only way i die in sonic games

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They need to find a way for everything else to be a threat and the ring system aint it

rustic fable
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Superstars is peak classic sonic

noble drift
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As long as you clunch onto that ring after you get hit you will never die to any enemy

rustic fable
wise kiln
noble drift
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Because of an egg pawn?

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Or cuz the game had some bottomless pits and such

wise kiln
#

Platforming and this one stupid boss in one of the regular levels

rustic fable
#

but it’s worth it to see them suffer

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And me getting to laugh my ass off

noble drift
rustic fable
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The time limit in platforming:

honest patio
#

Me about to beat Fang and he pulls the Eggman dick move where he breaks the platforms

rapid shuttle
#

I think I just observed something very interesting but also a bit disapointing about the boss fights.

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actualy...question, does Trip's story give bosses more health?

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I have the theory that bosses are programed to loose less half if the player hit it before they went through a full cycle of the boss

magic raptor
#

what's the consensus on the special stages?

rapid shuttle
#

idk, but I personaly don't think they are very interesting

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they aint terrible either

magic raptor
#

from what I've played they seem fun

rapid shuttle
#

they can be, but I also feel like I wish they had at least some different theming in each one, like the other Sonic games

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plus I don't think these specials stages get more difficult

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I mean they kind of do, but the strategy is the same for each one.

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I don't think these were very well designed

wise kiln
noble drift
#

Im not joking lol

tacit coral
#

Posting this here bc people don't seem to have talked about it in the spoiler chat either

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Holy shit. I got recommended all the cutscenes in Sonic Superstars and there's a clearly unfinished beta version of the intro theme in it. IM HOPING THE FM TRACKS ARENT ALL FINAL AND ITS JUST A POKEMON BDSP SITUATION

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Thoughts?

noble drift
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🙏

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neutral 🙏

tacit coral
noble drift
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Please

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Please

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Please

#

Imagine if we get an update day 1

tacit coral
#

Sonic Superstars Update 1 letsgo

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Nah I just hope that the intro just gets fixed tbh

#

I wish I could hope but

noble drift
#

What do you mean

tacit coral
#

I really

noble drift
#

Just intro?

tacit coral
#

Really don't want to get burned

rapid shuttle
#

When it comes to Sonic, I dont think its a good idea to actualy expect good things

tacit coral
#

Right

noble drift
#

They have to fix the entirely latter half

tacit coral
#

hh

rapid shuttle
#

Aint no way the music will be patched

tacit coral
#

Yeah just the intro for me lol

noble drift
#

What intro

tacit coral
#

I'm sitting here wondering

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"why"

noble drift
#

Dude this tweet is wrong

tacit coral
noble drift
#

Just read it

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The intro music is the same as the trailer

tacit coral
#

????

#

??????

noble drift
#

But there is midi versions of the ost in the files

tacit coral
#

So the in game version of the intro is the correct version?

noble drift
#

Yes

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They have time to fix it

#

Imagine if its a a patch with better music...

#

Man...

rapid shuttle
#

My biggest wish would be bosses that don't stall

#

Because holy shit do they like taking their time

noble drift
#

They dont take that long, jesus...

tacit coral
#

oh neutral

rapid shuttle
#

In Golden Capital

noble drift
#

Ok yea that one takes a lil

modern pebble
#

3 minute fight and for what

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long ass autoscroller

#

can’t stand it lmao

rapid shuttle
#

I just hate having to sit and wait for an uportonitu to hit the boss lile this. Its not super engaging.

modern pebble
#

yea that’s the main critique I have

rapid shuttle
#

I get it, they wanted Sonic Boses to last more then a few seconds like the classics. But playing long animations between hits and turning off their hit box just sucks

strong lodge
modern pebble
#

they take longer than typical classic sonic bosses but aren’t much more engaging

rapid shuttle
#

Also as much as some people like to cry about how bad the classic boss fight were, I really liked them because beating them quickly in a lot of cases was not just given to you, you had to know when to hit them and when to avoid them and if you know what you were doing you could end them quickly.

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I agree that some of them are better then others at this. But they had a good basis

strong lodge
#

The thing I don't like is how going super to cheese isn't even viable for some bosses just because they take so long to beat

honest patio
#

FUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUU

rapid shuttle
strong lodge
rapid shuttle
#

Deactivating only helps if you reach the boss with a lot more then just 50 rings. Which in my case, thats rare

honest patio
#

they’re lucky she’s cute because holy shit

strong lodge
#

That said I think the bosses were worth learning, it's just that they're really hard even by Classic Sonic standards

honest patio
#

that was not fun 😭😭

rapid shuttle
strong lodge
#

Now I can do that fang fight in one try if I had to

rapid shuttle
#

Bruh, I love trip

strong lodge
#

The final bosses are worth it

noble drift
#

I want to be that way soon

rapid shuttle
#

I think I might start drawing again because of her

noble drift
#

I just cant do it on yuzu with bad input lag and frame drops

honest patio
#

Like after all of that shit

#

I feel like I can do them pretty flawlessly

tacit coral
#

Oh so they're modern bosses

strong lodge
#

Trial and error is part of sonic but with these bosses taking minutes to defeat it doesn't feel quite right

#

As in not Sonicy not that they're bad

#

Mostly

honest patio
#

I agree

rapid shuttle
#

Ill be honest, some of the bosses actualy are a little fun due to the things they require you to do to hit the boss. My main complaint is the waiting time between each hit, but the parts where you fight the boss itself is kind of decent

tacit coral
#

Egg Dragoon type of deal

honest patio
#

God I’m glad trip’s story is over

rapid shuttle
#

Some that come to mind is the carnival level's bosses

tacit coral
#

The waiting time between each hit was precisely what was wrong with Mania bosses so

strong lodge
#

We need an edit of the Do it for her pinboard but for Trip

tacit coral
#

Ig we're not coming back from that one

noble drift
#

I just find it

#

Insane

honest patio
#

RAHHH

#

FUCK FANG

#

DIE

honest patio
#

Fr

tacit coral
#

Uh oh endgame spoilers I haven't seenDoD_PeepoWalkawayBye

honest patio
#

Like fang is petty asf

#

Jesus

tacit coral
strong lodge
#

Based

#

One of the best sonic bosses imo

noble drift
#

Jesus christ i can never win

tacit coral
#

It's probably one of my favorite

honest patio
#

can these long ass credits finish already ‼️

tacit coral
#

HENRY NO

#

IT'S MY OWN FAULT LOL

noble drift
#

The spider boss isnt very long

tacit coral
#

I'M IN SPOILER CHAT

rapid shuttle
noble drift
#

But like to the opposite side

tacit coral
#

Do NOT feel bad talking about the game in spoiler chat

noble drift
#

Studiopolis mini boss is fucking awful

rapid shuttle
#

I still have not beaten the good ending

noble drift
#

Ok fiiine

tacit coral
#

Studiopolis is one of the worst

#

Alongside mean bean

noble drift
#

Like its only a minute long

#

But it takes too fucking long it feels like 3 minutes

rapid shuttle
#

Im biased because I like Puyo, so that one is fine for me

tacit coral
#

Nah it's fucked up they expect us to wait that long

#

Give us more rockets to hit back

#

Something

noble drift
#

And the worst part is that you dont even adjust yourself or jump around to prepare yourself like superstars bosses

#

You just

#

Keep running till you see the blue rocket

tacit coral
#

Is so boring

noble drift
#

It is awful

tacit coral
#

Let me smack it

rapid shuttle
#

You know whats a boss I always liked?

#

Sonic 2 Casino Night Zone boss

noble drift
#

That one is alright

rapid shuttle
#

I love hiting it by wall jumping

tacit coral
#

That one's pretty good

#

Yeah the level design really complements it

#

Need more bosses that make use of level design tbh

rapid shuttle
#

I always wanted more bosses with a slopey arena

#

Utilize your enviorment and knowledge to strike more

honest patio
#

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rapid shuttle
#

Oh yeah, thats athing

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I have not gotten to that yet so... Good luck

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And uh...dont post more screenshots for the time being

honest patio
#

yep 🫡

rapid shuttle
#

I know this is a spoiler chat and all ...

honest patio
#

nah theres like

#

spoilers

#

and then there's SPOILERS

tacit coral
rapid shuttle
#

....sure

honest patio
#

i get it

strong lodge
#

You're not ready

tacit coral
#

what is this

honest patio
#

i need a break first

#

😭

rapid shuttle
#

Its the ending where Trip and Amy make out

tacit coral
#

omg getting excited...

#

This week is so packed wtf

unique wedge
#

is this game worse than Update 3

tacit coral
#

Superstars on the 17th

#

Hw on 19th (no early access on steam)

#

Wonder on 20th

#

The week of gaming™️

rapid shuttle
#

After today...im not sure

unique wedge
#

Not talking about the actual game but who played knows

#

Because

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From what I have heard it seems painful

rapid shuttle
#

I was not thinking straight to say the least
#1161789260752490586 message

rapid shuttle
#

At least level design and controls wise.

#

If you dont mind some of the Sonic 4 episode 3 tracks and ... And certain levels I would say are boring astheticaly its fine.

rapid shuttle
#

Oh, And I guess Trip's story has some annoying level design

noble drift
#

i say ok at worst

#

great at best

rapid shuttle
#

I would say, between Update 3's Cyberspace stages and this....this is a tough one

#

I think im leaning towards update 3

#

But I cant say for sure

unique wedge
#

The vibes I get from some of y'alls message is just funny

rapid shuttle
#

Funny how?

noble drift
#

what vibes we have different opinons thats all

unique wedge
rapid shuttle
#

Fair

#

Tbh I feel confused about myself as well.

#

Yaserday I was letting out so much fraustration with the game. And suddenly I play again for Trip and it just....doesnt feel as bad

#

Idk if that makes it good or...

#

Maybe I was in a bad mood

#

Its weird

tacit coral
#

Almost sent something but realized sending it in the non-spoiler chat will stop people from talking about how wrong the reviewer is vectorRunners

rapid shuttle
#

Sounds funny, do it

honest patio
#

Trip’s story on the otherhand

rapid shuttle
#

I didnt had to much of a badtime with trip's story.

#

Ok....I had a little bit of annoyances here and there, and they do like throwing spikes everywhare

honest patio
#

It’s not fun

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At all

rapid shuttle
#

But...idk, there is infinite lives

honest patio
#

The most fun part is skipping everything with her super form

rapid shuttle
#

I cant say "at all"

honest patio
#

Nah I found little to no enjoyment

rapid shuttle
#

Skill issue

honest patio
#

Funny and all

#

But I’m serious

rapid shuttle
#

Sorry

noble drift
#

well well well, i guess

#

we have different opinons

honest patio
#

Spamming spikes, bottomless pits and enemies isn’t a substitute for well designed challenging levels

#

The endgame of the base game did that well

#

This feels like the worst of dimps

rapid shuttle
#

Yeah, Ill give you that

unique wedge
#

Are you allowed to play trip in co-op?

rapid shuttle
#

Yes

unique wedge
#

What about in her own story

rapid shuttle
#

Nope

#

Trip's story is designed for Trip in particular

#

Even if you play as other characters they gonna have a rough time

unique wedge
#

Okay lol

#

I was curious, but that makes complete sense

agile lark
#

So I finished super stars earlier today

#

Man the level design is dog

#

Especially on trip's campaign

#

Genuinely terrible LD

#

Miss having this in a sonic game.

#

We're so back

modern pebble
agile lark
#

I'm overcooked

#

I played Mario Wonder and felt like a ray of sunshine was cleansing me

boreal mirage
agile lark
#

Diimps 2 baby

agile lark
#

Lavih gets me

#

The Rayleigh gif hits the spot

modern pebble
#

I was gonna play superstars all the way to the true ending but after getting into wonder a bit, I almost never wanna touch it again

#

Looking back on my experience thus far, the only time I was actively having fun with superstars was playing with my girlfriend

#

and even then it was mostly because of our dynamics lol

honest patio
#

Superstars is fun during the main campaign for me

boreal mirage
#

I wanna play wonder so bad

honest patio
#

But Trip’s part soured it a lot

boreal mirage
agile lark
honest patio
#

||I’m playing through the true final boss rn and yeah, it’s cool and all, but it did not feel worth it to go through all of THAT just for this 😭||

honest patio
#

But I’m not done yet so maybe I’ll feel differently after

modern pebble
#

You should’ve seen what happened at the end of golden capital

agile lark
#

What's worse, is that there are two other spikes right next to this

#

one on top, and one to the very right

modern pebble
#

Stay here for a sec and I’ll show something really funny

modern pebble
agile lark
#

wait why is my face pinned lmfao

modern pebble
#

idk

agile lark
#

LOL

#

WHAT

#

Sonmething similar happened to me

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but not to this extent

#

this is another level

modern pebble
honest patio
#

THERES NO WAYY

#

I guarantee you if you post this mfs will be going on about it being an emulation issue 😭😭

tacit coral
#

Erm scuffed switch roms....

unique wedge
#

What is this

#

Is that how it's supposed to play out

honest patio
#

.

#

no

noble drift
#

Superstars is my ray of sunshine and mario wonder to me is just gonna be another mario game

honest patio
#

Okay I’m changing my username 😭

unique wedge
#

I mean idk which part of it is bugging out

#

Looks like everything

tacit coral
noble drift
#

Nah

#

Cuz once i play it ill have a great time

#

Judt not as superstars i bet

#

I know mario enough

noble drift
#

Nothing will be as good as the world games

unique wedge
#

Hmm

tacit coral
#

Hmm

noble drift
#

(World, 3D World, World 2 Yoshis Island)

tacit coral
#

Alrighttttttt

#

I trust u

noble drift
#

The best part of wonder for me is that jump sound

#

Perfection

short lark
tacit coral
#

Just don't get hit with the spoilers

noble drift
#

Spoilers for what

tacit coral
#

Be on ur guard

noble drift
#

For what

#

Wonder?