Sonic Superstars (spoilers)

[tribal badger]

This is still nice af

Superstars unfortunetly is going to suffer same fate as Mania where the bosses overstay their welcome

You can say what you want over the bosses but really.... 3&K and...... I am not even kidding Sonic 4 Episode 2 are the only ones that have actual good bosses

Sonic 1 and 2s were both absolute pathetic.
Sonic 4 episodee 1's is ass
CD's still remain the biggest joke

[rapid shuttle]

I thought people agree on that

[tribal badger]

I just woke up tbf

I didn't look at the chat much because I was very tired

[rapid shuttle]

Tldr Superstars leaked, people think its mid.

Most of the complaints seem to be towards the OST and Graphics

People seem very disapointed tho from the looks of it.

There looots of doom posting

[tribal badger]

After seeing more of it......yeah I'm sorry

I disagree with it

I will say the same thing over OST but I am not really too big over Classic Sonic soundtrack

[rapid shuttle]

I am

[tribal badger]

only classic sonic game I care about the music as a whole is CD

And as for the graphics, I'll say for a 2.5D game I still say it looks really good

[rapid shuttle]

Tbh I cant imagine how someone could think that, I think every song in the classics is an absolute banger to me and I listen to them all hundreds and thousands of times.

CD IS top tier tho, ill give you that

[tribal badger]

Ye

Sonic 1 and 2 I don't remember their music much

[rapid shuttle]

Kind of wish they didn't over do it with rim lighting , so many of assets look to dark

[tribal badger]

I am always bit eh over Mania's soundtrack outside of the new zones

Still very mixed over the remixes

And Sonic 4 says enough lmao

Sonic Superstar I'll say is..... fine, it's not terrible but nothing that amazing

Talking about soundtrack still lmao

But putting that aside, I'll say the biggest highlight for me are both the gameplay and level design

I am loving the new level design from what I am seeing over Superstars a lot more

It's still not as good compared to 3&K (imo) but a h uge improvement compared to Mania's

[zenith kettle]

Oh yeah, kinda surprised nobody talked about how there's 18 composers for this game

[tribal badger]

I didn't knew about that till now lmao

And that's very impressive

Also what are the others complaining about the OST? Is it the boss music alone or just in general?

[zenith kettle]

*19 if you count Jun, tho he's put only in the sound director role

[tribal badger]

So he really did just boss music and that's it?

[zenith kettle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tribal badger]

.....of course this fucking fandom

💀

[zenith kettle]

I was sleeping when people were streaming, so I don't know

[tribal badger]

oh fair

[zenith kettle]

Reading through this chat does seem like the latter half is heavier on Sonic 4-esque music

[tribal badger]

If it's more episode 2 I'll be happy with

ep1 soundtrack is still ass anyways lmao

[zenith kettle]

I do love how I only expected to play through the game maybe once, but the game said "Nah. || Separate mode for Trip that allegedly alters level layouts ||"

[tribal badger]

||bro that makes me hype as hell!||

||I am so happy we got that again||

[surreal lion]

I asked the same question

[tribal badger]

oh lmao

Well I guess now that the channel is actually quiiet we can get an easier answer

[rapid shuttle]

Tbh that was the one thing that caught my attention since the game wass revealed. i always thought the level design looked fun despite everything else. For a moment I thought they screwed that up with the rest of the game

Tho they probably did in some areas and I didnt see it yet

[hoary trench]

Outside of the soundtrack, the game still looks like a great time

[tribal badger]

Yeah I am going to wait and see over the soundtrack

But again I am not really that big over classic sonic music so not a big deal for me

[surreal lion]

I have one question: if the game is considered to be an evolution of Classic Sonic, why it still needs to include the faux-genesis music

[tribal badger]

3D Sonic games always have better music

Only time that wasn't the case was comparing Force's and Mania's lmao

[hoary trench]

But yeah, I’m just gonna wait for sensible people to talk about the game and that even doesn’t matter because I already pre ordered it

[tribal badger]

I am buying it day 1

I don't give a damn over the discourse crap anymore

[hoary trench]

I don’t either after realizing its becoming a pattern

[tribal badger]

If I enjoy Frontiers, IDW, and Prime, this will be like that too

[rapid shuttle]

Sensible people
💀

[hoary trench]

No matter how you reveal it, many previews, or public demo that gets raving positive reception. They still act like the game is a complete disaster the moment they see one crack

[surreal lion]

I'm going to have a field day if I see any bugs related to 3d graphics

[hoary trench]

Considering that Frontiers looked way less impressive and people came around to liking it or finding to be just okay. Superstars looks way better, so it would be strange if it gets worse reception than Frontiers

[shy frigate]

I think it's just a matter of expectation, people loved Superstars pre release, if it ends up not living up to that hype they might get disappointed, Frontiers had to earn the hype in various months

[tribal badger]

Even so

Expecting no flaws is kind of asking a lot

[shy frigate]

Yes

It's not Wonder but it's still the most polished Sonic content since Mania

[tribal badger]

....eh rather not compare like that but whatever

[shy frigate]

Okay

It's the most promising Sonic game in a while

[tribal badger]

That's better

[hoary trench]

Heres the thing with people who are gonna use Mania as the standard. Outside of replicating genesis games amazingly, what else did it really do?

[tribal badger]

Introducing a new char that stands out very well

actual good lore instead of shoehorning

[hoary trench]

Are you talking about Mania or Superstars?

[tribal badger]

Superstars

I assumed you were talking about it lmao

[hoary trench]

No

[tribal badger]

Then I am not fully awake yet lmao

[hoary trench]

I was talking about Mania bruh

[tribal badger]

But yeah..... really problem with Mania is that it barely has any identity

I am still not fully awake!

[hoary trench]

Thats my point

Superstars has a Identity and feels like its moving 2D Sonic forward whiles still gazing excellent controls that they build upon from Mania

Level design & 3D visuals are gonna be more subjective, but so far

[swift bobcat]

more so visuals

[hoary trench]

I don’t see how people look at the level design and call it bland

[swift bobcat]

yea thats my thing

i think the level design looks great for the most part

[hoary trench]

It just like Sonic 2, 3, and Mania

[uncut onyx]

It’s so to see that this is one of my favorite sonic games ever and I don’t like update 3. Yet somehow people are the opposite so I’m just like 🤣

[swift bobcat]

ye and not in like a shallow way

[uncut onyx]

I see y’all ok ok. That says a lot about me or the community lol

[tribal badger]

If I am liking a lot over sonic recently throughout that says enough

Tired of this god damn fandoms' discourse crap

[uncut onyx]

^

[rapid shuttle]

Honestly? Same

[shy frigate]

Mania just did nostalgia well and capitalized on that, there is also a lot of passion and effort in the game which got amazing response

it's a great game and appeals to that side of the fandom

[rapid shuttle]

I mean if ya'll want better standards and wont stand for what Sonic is now, I get it. But I just hope no one actualy gonna be mad at me for "supporting bad games and not letting Sonic evolve"

[shy frigate]

outside of that, it's not a "big" game

[shy frigate]

they will also call you a "fanboy that accepts any shit"

[rapid shuttle]

Yeah thats what I meant

Honestly the worse one for me is saying that Sonic fans dont play other games besides Sonic

Its true in some cases, but fuck you if you think I didnt play games before I know Sonic

[shy frigate]

I get sometimes that too much blind optimist can be seen as annoying, but the other extreme is equally annoying

[shy frigate]

just don't listen to them, be chill

[rapid shuttle]

Yeah

[tribal badger]

They have to be fucking crazy saying that over me

Especially over my tweets LMFAO

[zealous spindle]

WHAT DID I MISS WHAT DID I MISS

DMS DMS DMS

also yeah sleeping on it, digital preorder's absolutely not happening lol

tempted to grab it physical so I can flog it off down CEX afterwards though

[tribal badger]

||Also did Trip legit became super?|| Trip related

[uncut onyx]

Ye

[tribal badger]

||NO FUCKING WAYYYYYYYYYY! OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG||

||MY BIGGEST REQUEST OVER MALE HEDGEHOGS ONLY CAN GO SUPER IS FUCKING DEAD! I FUCKING WON!!!!!!!!||

||TRIP YOU ARE THE FUCKING SAVIOR!||

[toxic canopy]

hey sonic superbros

does anyone know who’s directing the game?

[uncut onyx]

Ask either David or Syn

[agile lotus]

I think Superstars has a lot to be desired on the presentation front

But core gameplay wise, it slaps

[tribal badger]

I'll say presentation wise they did a solid job over the transition

But I care more over the core gameplay and I am happy it's just as good as Sonic 1-3&K and Mania

[agile lotus]

I'd rather have a more solid gameplay formula compared to spectacle yk.
I'd rather have both, but I prefer this over any of the Rush + Gens + Forces + any boost formula 2D section lmao

Like Gens, Rush fucking body slams Superstars in terms of presentation but there's something about the physics and depth in gameplay that gets me more intrigued to dive in idk why

[zealous spindle]

Honestly the physics are these but some of the level gimmicks just…. ain’t it lmao

Desert stage line things looks fucking dire, rollercoaster over a bottomless pit looks fucking dire, fruit stage???

The “momentum physics accuracy” may be there but the actual ideas are not lol

[toxic canopy]

Thank you so much!

Btw, is the VOD up?

[tribal badger]

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4053558/ oh

Just only one game

And it's the olympic 2020 game

So he is for sure very new

This is Yasuyuki btw

This one is Shunsuki https://www.imdb.com/name/nm11543806/

Only did Digimon all stars royale and Sakura Wars

So another new person

[rapid shuttle]

Alright, I think I calmed down now...sorry if I over reacted a bit earlier

[tidal isle]

Not fully. Just the normal ending plus a couple of minutes of Trips campaing
https://youtu.be/zX1e8jiN_5Y?si=nQyUUCyxYyZw_bWD

[toxic canopy]

Niceeee

Thanks

[tidal isle]

[hoary trench]

not Naoto Ohshima?!

Thats surprising

[tidal isle]

Nope, tho he IS credited as dev producer

Also credited as Trip's designer along with Iizuka

[hoary trench]

Anyways. I looked up that director and he only has worked on Sakura Wars for development support

Thats it…

Never worked on a Sonic game before

[tribal badger]

Yeah he is brand new for sure

So we do got new bloods basically

[tidal isle]

Thats nice

[shy frigate]

I didn't think they would give it to a new director

[tribal badger]

Yeah that tho is very interesting

[tribal badger]

Okay I've played Sakura Wars and gamee is perfectly fine

Then again reviews were being harsh af over mystery dungeon explorers of sky so why will I give a fuck over the reviewers?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tidal isle]

Yeah Shin Sakura Wars is perfectly fine, just that unfortunately the IP itself self-destroyed for unrelated reasons to the game

[tribal badger]

The series suffers the same fate as Star Fox honestly

[agile lotus]

https://vxtwitter.com/Mellon_Nova/status/1712452342908379458?s=20

damn

[tribal badger]

Looks more like a Spyro char

[agile lotus]

Disagree?

The eye shapes, spikey feathers etc all look Sonic-y

They aren't a mammal

Trip has eye holes on the left and right, maybe that's why she's clumsy, but it makes you think she has a unique lizard like design

[tribal badger]

I mean

It helps more so due to well being in a suit lmao

So really it's basically the usual suit like chars into a generic looking char

[agile lotus]

I think that we should... not put Sonic character designs down to the generic Forces mammal template like

[tribal badger]

nah I am used to this, Trip is just another one

[agile lotus]

Other then Espio, Big, all these characters follow this bland template

[tribal badger]

And I am saying this as a Metroid fan too LMFAO

[agile lotus]

Fair but I just wanted more from Trip

[tribal badger]

eh even then I'll say it works

[agile lotus]

Especially with Ohshima designing it

[tidal isle]

Was about to say exactly the same lmao

[tribal badger]

What makes that trope work is the chars in a suit make them look more interesting appealing

[tribal badger]

IKR!? LOOOOOOL

[agile lotus]

Like what happened lmao

This is so Sonic-y yet would be so unprescendented in Modern Sonic

[tribal badger]

Naaaaaaaah

Let's not do this bullshit

Also that is ugly af I'm sorry

Especially with Vector

Vector having those muscles does not looked right at all

.......BRO THE MONKEY LOOKS EVEN WORSE THAN I THOUGHT

💀

[tribal badger]

LIKE WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING!?

[agile lotus]

Here is the refined version

[tribal badger]

Slightly better?

Still looks bad

[tidal isle]

Vector looks like some old gym logo mascot

[unique wedge]

I mean, their proportions make it clear that wouldn't be the case

[agile lotus]

Idk I think it's neat how unique they look yk

Some weird shit but you can see uniqueness at least

Instead of... you know

[unique wedge]

I don't disagree they could make unique character designs, but what they make works fine

[late flint]

2 words:
Madeline Schroeder

[tribal badger]

Again for Trip what works for her is not the design but more so the purpose

Her trope is literally the same as the usual chars in a suit

Like with Samus, Doomguy, and such

[agile lotus]

Honestly I'm kind of complaining a lot, she's fine still

But this is still funny and I'm proud of it lol

[agile lotus]

i love sega of america

[hoary trench]

Its funny to see people complaining about her not looking the animal that the design took inspirations from

As if most of characters look like their animals

Newsflash: they don’t

[short lark]

The problem is she looks like a basic Sonic template lol.

[tribal badger]

I mean......

Isn't that basically majority of the sonic chars?

[short lark]

She doesn’t even need to look exactly like the animal.

[hoary trench]

I was gonna say that…..

[short lark]

She just needs to look less like a background character.

[hoary trench]

Since SA2. Most of the new characters are just sonic templates

[tribal badger]

Also Amy btw

[short lark]

And that’s boring tbh.

Jet’s concept art design is more interesting than his final design.

[hoary trench]

Yeah, but complaining about it now seems odd when it has been a issue for over 20 decades

[short lark]

I always found it an issue. I thought Storm was more refreshing since he was the only big bodied character out of the Rogues.

[magic raptor]

Hop. OFF.

[short lark]

And Omega, thankfully doesn’t look like Emerl/Gemerl but instead looks more look a death machine.

[tribal badger]

Okay let's be fully real

[hoary trench]

Anyways. I can’t wait for the countless “Naoto Ohshima has fallen off” tweets

[tribal badger]

Sonic robot chars will ALWAYS be distinguish due to one major reason

Machines always looked different

[short lark]

I appreciate that lol

[tribal badger]

Even if it's by the same creator

It's one of the reason why Eggman has a very unique army due to being filled with machines

While having an Ai that is a literal human

[short lark]

All the robots we’ve had look different and it’s great. Too bad the main characters only follow a bland template.

[tribal badger]

Machines > organics when it comes to design

Always been that way

[hoary trench]

Remember when some people said Naoto Ohshima was gonna make that change?

[tribal badger]

Bro I don't fucking care over them

I am just happy Naoto returns to SEGA

He feels more right at home

Especailly not having to deal with Yuji Naka anymore

[unique wedge]

I don't agree

[short lark]

It doesn’t feel like he fell off or anything. It just feels like design wise they went with something more basic. Which is fine I guess, her super form is far more interesting.

[unique wedge]

She is not that basic

[short lark]

She really is.

Even her face looks very basic.

[unique wedge]

She still has aspects that make her unique compared to some characters

[short lark]

I thought her eyes would at least be oriented on the side of her skull like Espio. But they didn’t even do that.

She just looks like “Sonic girl template” but with a spiny dress.

Her dragon form is more interesting.

Even in her armor she looks more interesting.

[tribal badger]

Male hedgehogs only go Super is finally dead!

[short lark]

I’m glad they broke this.

[tribal badger]

THANK GOD

I hated this shit for year

[short lark]

It’s about damn time.

[tribal badger]

I love Silver but him getting super over modern Knuckles still pissed me off

Seeing not only a non hedgehog but also a female char getting a super is a huge W

[unique wedge]

I only want it to happen in the modern era now

[tribal badger]

PLEASE give Knuckles his super form back in modern

He 100% deserves it

[unique wedge]

Classic has always been some sort of exception, but in the modern times.. The only time I can re-call it being close enough is Burning Blaze or the yellow spheres created by the emeralds in Heroes

I don't think anyone has gone Super aside from the hedgehog trio, ever

[tribal badger]

Never once still

I want th at trend to finally be dead because it's just so stupid

[unique wedge]

That's what I want

Kill it

Sonic already got his cool SS2 form anyway

[tribal badger]

exactly

If you can upgrade Super Sonic to stand out then have other sonic chars that has that potential to be super

Just as long........

You don't do something as stupid by giving Shadow SS2 too

[short lark]

The Cyber shit has been used up likely. I don’t think Shadow will attain anything similar to that.

[unique wedge]

Or anyone else

[tribal badger]

Better off that way tbh

Having just a super form is good enough as it is

[short lark]

Plus he has inhibitor rings. If they want to make Shadow “cooler” expand on that.

No need for power scale bs.

[unique wedge]

The other part of the main cast that isn't sonic still deserve their super form, though

[tribal badger]

After with Frontiers agreed

I'll say it's finally time for Tails, Knuckles, and amy getting their super form

But I want Knuckles getting it first

[short lark]

I think just handing out Super forms might cause narrative issues. I think certain characters having one is fine. But it shouldn’t be like Oprah handing out cars to people.

[tribal badger]

Oh yeah not wrong on that

[unique wedge]

I would like to see how they could handle it, because they can definitely come up with ideas for unique Super powers

They already did with heroes (but that's just Knuckles)

[tribal badger]

Knuckles is at least easy enough to excuse it with the Master Emerald

Amy and Tails tho.... yeah I wonder how over both of them

[unique wedge]

Tails had no gameplay utility in the Heroes finale

He is just there

[tribal badger]

yeah

[unique wedge]

I still hate that with all my heart, by the way

How did they want super forms but also not in Heroes

[tribal badger]

That still pisses me off

Like bro they ltierally went super. why retcon that!?

[unique wedge]

If they gave them unique auras and their glowing colors, it literally would be it

But erm, they have to use yellow spheres because yes

[tribal badger]

It's just so.......

dumb

06 will remain the most "fuck you" moment to SEGA for me

The fact that it's teh same concept but Shadow and Silver can do it too pisses me off

[last bay]

erm yes he does, he can get rid of the claw things that can trap the others

[unique wedge]

cool and memorable gameplay utility*

Knuckles throws some fire balls to explode an entire air ship

[surreal lion]

ah so Tee Lopes is not a lead music guy at all. thought they would let him do the majority of OST lol

also if Whitehead isn't in credits I'm gonna riot

[uncut onyx]

The copium is over, this is not in the game https://youtu.be/S4I-JTex5LY?si=3SChgYi_bc_59u9n

[uncut onyx]

I mean he ain’t wrong 🤷‍♂️

Just personal taste

[honest patio]

hello supershits

how are we

[zealous spindle]

Watchin another superstars stream

[short lark]

Stream link?

[honest patio]

How’s the player this time

[unique wedge]

Attempting to pre-order the game

And waiting for the actual game in general

I don't get enjoyment out of streams

[honest patio]

Waiting to get my hands on a rom

[zealous spindle]

https://www.twitch.tv/kame_lab

[unique wedge]

I plan to play with some friends together when the game is out thru parsex or something, so

[zealous spindle]

Italian

[short lark]

Thank you.

[zealous spindle]

Actually think I really like the S1 bonus stages in this lol, some fun new gimmicks

[short lark]

😬

Good luck with that I guess.

[hoary trench]

It is just the stream or does the bomb sound effect sounding so compressed?!

Its the stream

[wide plank]

https://www.twitch.tv/grayfoxrj More Trip More Trip

[noble drift]

AAAAH TRIP TIME

[uncut onyx]

YAY TRIP TIME

Wait I’m confused

Is this before or after the main story?

[wide plank]

After

[noble drift]

Seems like this is the same case of 3k

she is the knuckles of the game

[uncut onyx]

Makes sense, was wondering why I was seeing egg robos

Bro I’m happy we got a new classic character and SHES PLAYABLE

[noble drift]

her victory animation is adorable

also fang boss theme is the same as the short

her act 2 is actually act fruit

also the guy is saying he has been enjoying the game (in portuguese)

[tribal badger]

How is this chat feeling on the game today? Got pretty intense last night.

[zenith kettle]

Just tuned it

Yeah, Fang's theme sure is Sonic 4-ish

[modern pebble]

guess

[zenith kettle]

And I just finished both episodes of Sonic 4 so that game's music is as fresh in my mind as it can be lmao

[uncut onyx]

BRO YALL LIED

IT DOES PLAY FANGS THEME

[modern pebble]

who lied

[uncut onyx]

I asked if they played fangs theme yesterday and they said no

Ig it was just for frozen base act 2

Or was it act 1 I forgot

[honest patio]

From all that I’ve seen? A solid enough 7/10

Good level design in the stages, and the addition of more character specific acts are cool, and the hub for switching characters and the battle mode looks cool

[modern pebble]

Trip’s campaign is a little different

[noble drift]

No clue maybe after

trip gets every level damn

[honest patio]

But the music is a hugeee mixed bag, the visuals are bland, the zone aesthetics get really generic later into the game, and the story co op does not look fun

But ofc I’d like to get my hands on it first

[honest patio]

oh and the bosses seem kinda bad

[noble drift]

i disagree about the bosses

everything else?

yea lol

[honest patio]

I’m not a fan of how they approached them here

Seems tedious

[zenith kettle]

From what I can see I'm still excited to go through the game

[modern pebble]

https://vxtwitter.com/OcUnnamed/status/1673107698223546368?s=19

[honest patio]

The game looks fun still

It’ll be a nice time

But this isn’t a 60 dollar product

[modern pebble]

Bringing back this banger tweet since it hadn’t been posted in a while

[uncut onyx]

Neither is wonder 🗿

[honest patio]

What’re we talking about wonder for

[zenith kettle]

Neither is any game frankly

[honest patio]

I didn’t bring it up

[modern pebble]

insecure

[uncut onyx]

Nothing

[tribal badger]

Pricing is always horeshit anyways

[unique wedge]

This

[tribal badger]

But nothing we can do about it

[uncut onyx]

Just wanna bring up how similar each game is

[fickle burrow]

honestly i will say

we still havent seen all the content there is for this game

[unique wedge]

Superstars is super expensive I'm only pre-ordering now

[fickle burrow]

still def not worth 60 i think but like

[unique wedge]

But I expect a pretty fun time

[modern pebble]

oh yeah, aren’t you in Brazil?

[fickle burrow]

weve still only seen a playthrough that doesnt even have all of the stages bc each character has specific acts

[modern pebble]

Are the prices for sonic games still fucked up over there?

[fickle burrow]

the trip playthrough i think actually has all of them

[unique wedge]

Maybe, I got some of them in good sales lol

I can't go spending a lot for games

[tribal badger]

WAIT I FORGOT

Is there a metal fight in superstars?

[unique wedge]

Superstars will be one of the exceptions I make because it looks that good

[uncut onyx]

No

[tribal badger]

sadness

[zenith kettle]

Woah, the character is way too heavy for this kind of special stage

Not Trip, I meant in general

[noble drift]

instead we have fang going crazy

[modern pebble]

nope

[unique wedge]

Also, probably because of your name

[zinc phoenix]

I think this is naive. Late response, but like I dunno if you been paying attention to them sonic channel stories or details. But I think we have entered the power level arms race

Blaze grows Solaris wings in one of them joints dog

Its joever

[short lark]

I don’t pay attention to Sonic channel shit since it’s not the games

And I ain’t seeing that shit in the games.

[zenith kettle]

ok, Sky Temple music sounds alright

[tribal badger]

My biggest problem with Superstars thus far is that it doesn’t really seem like the “evolution of 2D sonic” they pushed it as, and more just like..

Another classic game. One that seems lesser in quality than usual in a lot of places.

[zenith kettle]

even with 'Genesis' instruments

[zinc phoenix]

I think you are, because it's not just there it's in the comics

I feel like, it's kinda joever

When they remembered blaze had Solaris powers I was suspicious as hell. Now I know

[short lark]

Until that shit crosses into the games I don’t need to worry. Most the audience isn’t looking at Sonic Channel anyways.

[zinc phoenix]

Maybe. But again, I feel as though the media is more coordinated than usual. Maybe the SC is too distant for you , but this recent batch of sonic channel stuff feels more like direct market testing than usual

A lot of trying out ideas

[short lark]

I mean, multiple of its gimmicks were already used in 2D Sonic games prior.

[tribal badger]

Oh speaking of. Are Tails, Knuckles, and Amy able to go super or just same treatment as in 1/2/3K/CD over superstars?

[short lark]

Not sure.

[zinc phoenix]

Directly with polls and stuff. I feel as though I dunno it's a new era I guess

[tribal badger]

oh hmm

That's... odd considering the streamer played Amy

[knotty shoal]

No switch dump L

[modern pebble]

I agree with you

[modern pebble]

I have a switch dumpy

[knotty shoal]

Dms

[zinc phoenix]

This seems like another case of "sega knows people like a thing but not why" but I'll wait till I get my hands on it to see myself

[uncut onyx]

And the stream ended

[zinc phoenix]

I had come in here to get impressions

[uncut onyx]

He need to eat

[zinc phoenix]

See if any of yall had gotten it

[zenith kettle]

bro said "brb leaving for food" then went "Kidding"

[knotty shoal]

Lol did the stream end

What part is he at?

[uncut onyx]

Sky temple

[knotty shoal]

Trip’s story right

[uncut onyx]

Ye

[zenith kettle]

ok now bro went to eat lmao

[uncut onyx]

Now it’s over lol

[noble drift]

thank god lol

like please go eat

[uncut onyx]

Something superstars related in 20 minutes

[noble drift]

i like sky temple a lot

[uncut onyx]

[noble drift]

no one cares we have the full game lol

[uncut onyx]

It’s still nice to see a trailer tho

I’m trying to get more hyped

[tribal badger]

Mine is in delivery

I am just cool seeing leaks really

[uncut onyx]

Oh sweet I’m free from school for a few hours

[knotty shoal]

Why only a few hours

[knotty shoal]

Me if I had a PS5

In another world

Sigh

[zinc phoenix]

You will get the ps5 oneday

I believe in you

[uncut onyx]

I got a free advisory class and another time for me to chill

After that I got art class for the rest of the day

Thursdays are always good for me

[modern pebble]

WTF ITS THURSDAY

Dude

It feels like Wednesday

[uncut onyx]

I don’t blame you

15 minutes left

[knotty shoal]

I work every Thursday so

But this week’s truck delivery was small af

Just cracked my back on a stool omg it feels so good

[tribal badger]

I work depending on my schedule

[noble drift]

so is the guy coming back

[modern pebble]

I’m back

[shy frigate]

I've watched the italian stream... but only watched bridge island and speed jungle again, I would really watch more footage of the game but I want to be surprised tbh

anyway he liked it, he said it gives 2D Sonic vibes ofc, and he prefers Superstars over Frontiers... no surprise here, such an italian oldschool take

[uncut onyx]

Bro smacking on food rn give him a sec

(THANK YOU AUTO CORRECTION I ACCIDENTALLY TYPED SEX)

[noble drift]

no you didnt

[uncut onyx]

No I’m being deadass I did 😭

And then it autocorrected to sec

[honest patio]

Someone else who got the game early shared impressions so far

[short lark]

Oof……

[noble drift]

i cannot wait to play each level and have no issues with them at all

[uncut onyx]

^

[noble drift]

cuz people say the game nosedives, and i am reminded of advance 2

[uncut onyx]

This might be the one time I agree with skill issue

But I won’t make assumptions yet

[modern pebble]

oh so NOW it’s a skill issue

[uncut onyx]

NO NO NOT YET

I gotta play it for myself first

[tribal badger]

Watching hte stream made me went like

"okay yeah this is skill issues" lmao

I get he wanted to get over it but at the same times I notice that there are times where he went too impatient

[shy frigate]

it's hard, so like classic Sonic games

maybe a bit harder considering there are no lives here

they have to balance the difficulty somehow

[noble drift]

there is a bit of skill issue, just glad the guy seems to be enjoying it despite spending more than a fucking hour in the final boss lol

[zealous spindle]

This is what I’m saying!!! 😭

[shy frigate]

I've only seen what was in the demo but Speed Jungle act 2 has some tough sections in the butterfly part, the last one, I thought it looked hard, and it's the 2nd zone, I can't imagine later but I'm kinda intrigued by this?

[noble drift]

i mean both frontiers update 3 and superstars seem to be more challenging sonic games, yea it seems skill issue for both i had a great time with update 3

[modern pebble]

Day by day I find it more difficult to take any discussion about this game seriously

[tribal badger]

I breeze it through over update 3 heavily lmao

Only time I rather just go like fuck this is master trial

That's about it

[shy frigate]

it can't be harder than update 3, but yeah we literally complained about easy games since Colors and Gens

[tribal badger]

^^^^^

[noble drift]

i took 8 hours to beat update 3 at first but then i just did it in 2 hours lol

[noble drift]

im being cathered to

[zealous spindle]

it’s exactly like when people watch others do badly on gameshows and go “well I could do that hurhur”

(spoiler they can’t)

[noble drift]

bet

[zealous spindle]

Screenshotted

[knotty shoal]

I can actually

[zealous spindle]

Let’s see how it ages

[noble drift]

really well, you guys are making this to be the most unfair 2d game and im like, the most unfair 2d game for some is my favorite 2d game lol

[shy frigate]

Like, I've not seen enough of the game yet but I agree with the take of "usual Sonic fan discourse" when impressions seem good but the general public starts to assume it's mid

[tribal badger]

It's more so comes down over how well experience you are with the series

[noble drift]

sonic advance 2

[uncut onyx]

ME TOO LIKE ADVANCE 2 IS MY FAVORITE 2D SONIC GAME

THIS SHI WILL BE A BREEZE

[tribal badger]

OKAY WHOA THERE

[uncut onyx]

@knotty shoal I’m stupid and I’m proud of it

[knotty shoal]

LMFAOOO IM JOKIBG

[tribal badger]

CHILL BOI!

CHILL!

[shy frigate]

Try to get Amy in Advance 2

[tribal badger]

[noble drift]

i dont need to, i just like replaying it as sonic or cream

a lot

like update 3 was kind of overwhelming at first in how different it was from normal frontiers

and people were saying "oh this kinda sucks actually"

[agile lark]

I think video games are kinda cool.

[tribal badger]

Beating Armored Core 6 just made me realize how different hard games can be

[noble drift]

but now i dont see much reason to play the main campaign of frontiers lol

[tribal badger]

Which is why I don't feel frustrated over update 3 outside of trial 2

[honest patio]

so what’s the ratio of impressions so far from people who’ve spoken out

[uncut onyx]

Most think it’s mid or shit

[noble drift]

mixed

[agile lark]

That it's a video game with music by Jun Senou

[shy frigate]

only the negative ones matter obviously

[noble drift]

the guy who has been playing (grayfoxRJ) has been enjoying it

[honest patio]

Famitsu and the Brazil guy enjoyed it

[tribal badger]

Did they not expected the game to be this hard tho?

That's what I am more curious over

[noble drift]

i wasnt LMAO

i literally thought it was gonna be the easiest 2d sonic game

[agile lark]

Wait are there difficulty spikes lnao

Lmao

[tribal badger]

I mean the ones that do played LOL

[noble drift]

and now im learning is the hardest

oh i dont think so

[uncut onyx]

Ye

[agile lark]

Maybe Superstars is kino

The great filter

It's back again

We're so back

[uncut onyx]

Alright pack it up, we got metal NIGHTS in superstars

[agile lark]

Iizuka and Oshima the GOATs

[noble drift]

oh hes not playing it anymore btw

[agile lark]

I love how every sonic game in the past 12 years has leaked early

Even the digital only ones

How does that even happen

[knotty shoal]

@agile lark hiiii

[agile lark]

@knotty shoal ayo is that mboy sym

[knotty shoal]

Are you gonna play sonic stupidstars

[agile lark]

Yeah

[knotty shoal]

Nice

[agile lark]

Why wouldn't I

[shy frigate]

hell yeah

[tribal badger]

switch moment

[agile lark]

Fr

[knotty shoal]

Life maybe idk

[agile lark]

Sonic > life

[knotty shoal]

TRUE OMG

[agile lark]

Which is funny because update 3 fucked over my sleep schedule for nearly a week

[knotty shoal]

DHKSHSKS

I’m almost done with my review of it and the other updates

[agile lark]

But uh yeah I'll play superstars when it comes out

[zealous spindle]

Two of the people who got it early already gave up and sold it 💀

[knotty shoal]

I hope superstars stuff will be at our symphony

[agile lark]

The great filter

[knotty shoal]

And frontiers update 3 music too

[agile lark]

I hope they don't do that 💀💀💀

[agile pawn]

ngl I wonder if the reason why people think the quality noisedives is because the game gets hard or something

[knotty shoal]

WHY

[noble drift]

one of those people was Mark from Mania/Frontiers leaks

from 8chan

[tribal badger]

nah update 3 music will be there for sure

[zealous spindle]

😭😭

[agile lark]

Other things need more priority

[noble drift]

wow deja vu

[knotty shoal]

HSJSHSJ

[agile lark]

Holy fuck... the great filter

[knotty shoal]

It’s gonna be mixed huh

[knotty shoal]

Like Rush

[zealous spindle]

A game can be both hard and fun

[agile lark]

Nah

[noble drift]

yea this one can be fun

[zealous spindle]

this… does not look like the latter 💀

[noble drift]

name a sonic game thats hard and fun for you

[agile lark]

Jane... don't get filtered

[noble drift]

nah too late for her

[zealous spindle]

Am I a fucking coffee now

[uncut onyx]

Uhhh, sonic 2

[zealous spindle]

why am I filtered

[agile lark]

No I mean

[zealous spindle]

I don’t understand the lingo

[noble drift]

is sonic 2 hard? lol

[uncut onyx]

This game is gonna be interesting for reviews

[agile lark]

Don't let the difficulty filter you from the kino

[uncut onyx]

I mean sky fortress and death egg are kinda challenging

[tribal badger]

Update 3..... honestly

[noble drift]

fair enough

[tribal badger]

Not even kidding

[uncut onyx]

I haven’t played that many games yet either way so my choices are limited

[tribal badger]

I did not enjoyed Unleashed at all due to how the werehog moves

[noble drift]

ok but a 2d sonic game

[tribal badger]

none

[agile lark]

Coward

[noble drift]

[agile lark]

Embrace it

[tribal badger]

Werehog is ass don't care LMAO

[agile lark]

LOL

[uncut onyx]

https://youtu.be/a5wBFrQJgrI?si=185Utv9ZdkF4lMuy

[tribal badger]

okay ngl this theme is very good for super sonic

WAY better than in 3&K and better than Mania's honestly

[zealous spindle]

Yea the super sonic theme slaps

They used actual instruments!! A miracle!!

[uncut onyx]

Why do you look almost cross eyed in this image 😭

[agile lark]

❤️

I need to fuckin shave.

The grind has gotten to me boys

[zealous spindle]

Im terrible at posing for the camera 😭

[toxic canopy]

HAMADA MIDDLE INGER

[noble drift]

man we are never seeing the last story till we beat it ourselves lol

[rapid shuttle]

im fine with that

[tribal badger]

I am still baffled the most over fucking The End cameo

[rapid shuttle]

THATS A THING?!

LMFAO

[tribal badger]

YEAH LET ME FIND IT

LIKE BRO

WHY ARE YOU THERE!? 💀

[rapid shuttle]

lol

[tribal badger]

The End fucking observing the entire sonic cast this whole time

But still that shit is terrifying when you see The End casually being there watching

[uncut onyx]

Still a bitchass moon I ain’t scared

💀

[placid lichen]

I don't think the end is destroyed yet

[uncut onyx]

It isn’t

[tribal badger]

well yeah. It's a literal god of death

[uncut onyx]

Wait a sec it was sealed tho

[tribal badger]

Hard to believe it's dead

[placid lichen]

Even in update 3

[tribal badger]

Yeah it is sealed, but doesn't mean it won't see anything, jona

[uncut onyx]

His true form just chilling in space and sonic just now making that bitch active?

[placid lichen]

The end could try to be a incarnation of someone else

[tribal badger]

YEAH LIKE BRO

That shit is messed up

[uncut onyx]

YOU TELLING ME THIS WHOLE TIME THEY WERE JUST CHILLIN

[tribal badger]

Like imagine having a random god just chilling and watching you

YEAH!

[uncut onyx]

even tho their “true form” is sealed

[tribal badger]

THAT'S HOW SCARY THAT SHIT IT IS

LIKE BRO

[uncut onyx]

THAT AINT SCARY BRUH THATS PUSSY TYPE BEET

LIKE YOU COULDVE GOTTEN RID OF SONIC SINCE BUT NAH

[tribal badger]

Nah gods tend to do that

It's a common behavior over them

[placid lichen]

mephiles the dark could be the end

[uncut onyx]

I can never understand man lol

[tribal badger]

Highly doubt framerate

Mephiles is more related to Solaris and The End is not even related to solaris

[zenith kettle]

They were sealed, what do you mean

It only was able to get to Sonic when Eggman activated Cyberspace portals and the Starfall Islands' systems

[placid lichen]

mephiles the dark could be revived by the end

[tribal badger]

Oh hmm.... maybe?

Either way The End couldn't do anything but watch lmao

[placid lichen]

It be interesting if the end did try that though

[uncut onyx]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

it can’t do shit

Or it ain’t even there

[zenith kettle]

*couldn't

Till Eggy went "ooooh, ancient tech"

[tribal badger]

Typical eggman lmfao

[uncut onyx]

Though it would be funny if the end treated a super sonic and eggman battle like the Super Bowl 💀

[tribal badger]

Probably will be amused seeing Chaos 0 tho

[uncut onyx]

“Didn’t i kill those bitches” 😭

[noble drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OglOCdK6Yac&t=521s

it seems trip is unlocked in normal mode as well, cool

[uncut onyx]

OH FROZEN BASE

THANK YOU

Oh

Nvm ):

Goofy goobers

[noble drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX1e8jiN_5Y

jun versions of others tracks... pain

but here it says

• Trip Story Unlocked

• Trip is now playable in Story Mode

• Trip is playable in Time Attack

[agile lark]

The trip believers won

Can't believe it

[noble drift]

so trip is playable anywhere

[agile lark]

This is messed up

This is so messed up

[noble drift]

fang is not playable but down he got some sauce

he has two bosses in story mode and another one in trip mode thats hard as hell

[zealous spindle]

Actually, I do wonder

[fickle burrow]

hey guys im just saying
im not seeing jun in the composer list, just as sound director

[zealous spindle]

No Knux in that animated cutscene

Wonder if he has his own ending?

[fickle burrow]

and theres like

a suprisingly large number of composers

[noble drift]

everyone gets a different ending

[tribal badger]

^

This one is basically Amy's

[noble drift]

that was Amy's ending cuz amy got the final hit

[fickle burrow]

i think they mightve just had too many cooks

[noble drift]

too many people lmao

[fickle burrow]

thats like half of the amount of tracks in the game overall lmao

[tribal badger]

OMMFFFFFFFFFFFGGGGGGGGG

MAH FUCKING MAN

[noble drift]

but seriously why so many of them chose to do sonic 4 lol

[tribal badger]

HIDEAKI KOBAYASHI!!!!!!

[fickle burrow]

who

[tribal badger]

Phantasy Star composer

[fickle burrow]

oh

[tribal badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG3XByxn-Vw&pp=ygUPVFNSIGxvc3QgcGFsYWNl Even did Lost Palace (One of the best music in TSR too )

[fickle burrow]

only names im recognizing in that list are tee and rinato soma bc of frontiers

[uncut onyx]

God I love this cast so much

[noble drift]

so jun did not compose this soundtrack

at all

thats kind of insane

yea they are very cute

[fickle burrow]

i mean im sure he had a hand in it

[uncut onyx]

Can finally hop off his dick now 😭

[fickle burrow]

im willing to bet he probably composed the main leitmotif at least

and like he generally directed the ost

[noble drift]

which is a good leitmotif so im not that salty lol

but i wonder if he like

[fickle burrow]

it is its really good lol

[uncut onyx]

I wanna hear press factory again that shit slapped

[noble drift]

made most composers use the damn sonic 4 thing

but like

why others he didnt

like what happend lol

[fickle burrow]

i think it mightve been a case of him not making people do that

so people who knew more than that as far as classic sonic music goes went more with that

[noble drift]

oh man

[fickle burrow]

but people who know more about sonic music went more with like, not that

[modern pebble]

unleashed

[fickle burrow]

pinball carnival sounds very mania like to me even tho its by rinato soma and not tee

[noble drift]

yea

its interesting

[tribal badger]

Which honestly..... does make sense

When it comes to classic sonic people tend to recognize either sonic 1 or 2 the most music wise

Sadly less so over 3&K or CD

[fickle burrow]

speed jungle act 3 is also for example very different to sonic 4 music but its composed by hidenri shoji

so i really think it was just jun maybe giving people the genesis instruments he had and maybe giving them like, sonic 2 music to listen to as reference, and people who didnt know more just went with that

[noble drift]

tragic

[fickle burrow]

i love this track man its so good https://youtu.be/mIuugJM8fVo

[tribal badger]

Honestly I'll say it can work

It's just that Jun does not a good job utilizing it

Hideaki I have faith since he manages to do genesis twing very well

[noble drift]

it might have not been jun moon lol

[tribal badger]

Oh ye I get you

I am just more of saying to see over how other composers can manage it

[noble drift]

what nidio said might be true

ohhh

right

[tribal badger]

I love Jun's work I really do

But he is just garbage at doing classic sonic music

[fickle burrow]

yeah as director at the end of the day this does kinda fall on him still id say

just maybe not for specific tracks but rather the general ost

honestly i have a feeling that the ost specifically mightve generally been somewhat rushed considering that apperantly development for this game was finished earlier than expected?

[noble drift]

Maybe so...

Bridge Island changed very fast

https://vxtwitter.com/One2Switcheroo/status/1712515262841323656?t=lT2Kx8BYo-d0GxyVEVO_Ww&s=19

[unique wedge]

What da hell

That is cool tho

[tribal badger]

WTF HAPPENED

true

WHAT

[boreal mirage]

Yes

Pepito....

You won

[honest patio]

goofy asses

[tribal badger]

Nah fr what happened

i don't care about spoilers

Just overreactions

[uncut onyx]

Trip happened

Also people are saying the game is mid 🗿

[tribal badger]

But I'll say 2 things here since you don't care about spoilesr

[honest patio]

Nights……..

[tribal badger]

1. Trip unmasked
2. The End cameo

Oh

[honest patio]

erm

[tribal badger]

f***

Honestly man

I just don't care anymore about this

[uncut onyx]

Second one is a stretch

[tribal badger]

i thought the game said the classic era was over

[uncut onyx]

But ye

[boreal mirage]

This game ain't it 💀

[tribal badger]

No it isn't

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

Classic era is not dead

[wise kiln]

I still don't understand The End cameo tbh, isn't it supposed to be trapped in Cyberspace???

[tribal badger]

But more so continuing onwards

[uncut onyx]

Yeah exactly that isn’t the end

Just a purple planet

[tribal badger]

bleh I guess I am just not thinking right now again.

[wise kiln]

But it looks exactly like The End

[uncut onyx]

Bruh really lol

I won’t talk about it that much it’s not a big deal

[tribal badger]

okay I wasn't trying to say like it's a big deal, but it just... appeared like say an easter egg

That's about it

Sorry about that

[agile pawn]

I wonder if the PS4 version will get a patch

[tribal badger]

maybe?

well obviously day 1 patch lmao

But other th an that

[tribal badger]

Really?

[unique wedge]

Same thing happened with Wonder

[zenith kettle]

It's less "easter egg" and more like "lore consistency" maybe (if it is || The End|| )

[tribal badger]

Yeah something like that bobnik

[boreal mirage]

I'm being fr, if you thought frontiers was rough then this one is just rougher 😭

[tribal badger]

Wait they are saying that to Mario Wonder too?

[unique wedge]

I feel people don't know what they want from a game

[tribal badger]

The fuck!?

Why the fuck Mario Wonder of all?????

[uncut onyx]

Can confirm lol

[tribal badger]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-jarvis-gif-22373764

[unique wedge]

When gameplay was revealed, yes

[uncut onyx]

At least I admit it

[tribal badger]

......bro

This 2D hate is just so stupid I have to be honest

Already bad enough I am seeing over Metroid Dread, now with Superstars and Wonder?

yeah it's not the 90s anymore!!! 2D bad!!

/s

[wise kiln]

No way, fr?

[tribal badger]

Yeah at this point they can go fuck off

tbh i kinda doubt superstars will be bad/mid

Superstars is still going to be good, just don't expect it to be a masterpiece

That's all really

anyways I need to dip. Need to take out the trash

[unique wedge]

It looks like what I expected so I'm just excited to play it when it's officially out

[boreal mirage]

Nah bruh 😭

You had to be there

[tribal badger]

what happened exactly?

[boreal mirage]

Is just gimmicks

[wise kiln]

It's fine

It looks decent

People just wanted more after Frontiers

[boreal mirage]

It's ok at best yeah

[tribal badger]

at first when i saw all these pings

i thought roger left

[wise kiln]

That's not what I'm saying, it looks like a fun game

[boreal mirage]

Oh

[wise kiln]

Just not going to be one of the greats of the franchise

[boreal mirage]

It's ok at best yea

[wise kiln]

That's NOT what I'm saying

It looks good

[boreal mirage]

Ik 😭

[wise kiln]

Okay at best =/= good

[boreal mirage]

Bruh

LOL

[noble drift]

It looks worse than mania

And thats it???

[boreal mirage]

Why out of all things you would think Roger left

[noble drift]

Like i dont get the "it looks okay" it looks better than the rest of classic games

[tribal badger]

cause i was pinged 6 freakin times

it had to be something huge

[noble drift]

Maybe on par with 3k in my eyes

[agile pawn]

I do hope Sega starts putting more money into Sonic so the next 2D and 3D entries are better but maybe they just started doing that so we won't see the effects for a bit

[boreal mirage]

Thats fine

[boreal mirage]

Ah

[tribal badger]

but i don't think Superstars being 6/10 will refrain Sega from making others

[unique wedge]

That's what I've seen, yes

[tribal badger]

maybe if it's underwhelming and sales are bad, there's a chance

[agile pawn]

WHAT

[unique wedge]

But people are just unpredictable

[agile pawn]

WHAT WERE THE WONDER COMPLANTS

[unique wedge]

They think something is peak the first second and the second they think it's mid

[wise kiln]

It looks like a 7/10 game

[honest patio]

Definitely not bad

[wise kiln]

But not at the level of Frontiers

[honest patio]

But it seems like a 7/10 game

[boreal mirage]

Ok at best yeah

[wise kiln]

I'm going to kill you Davih

[boreal mirage]

😭

I just find 7 be ok

[hoary trench]

Seems like a 8/10 to me unless the level complete nosedives

[honest patio]

Lemme copper and pee

From all that I’ve seen? A solid enough 7/10

Good level design in the stages, and the addition of more character specific acts are cool, and the hub for switching characters and the battle mode looks cool

But the music is a hugeee mixed bag, the visuals are bland, the zone aesthetics get really generic later into the game, the bosses look really tedious and the story co op does not look fun

But ofc I’d like to get my hands on it first

Need that switch rom ‼️

[agile pawn]

I can't tell if the later level design is bad or it's just hard

[boreal mirage]

Not to mention the levels look like paint after the jungle

[honest patio]

I don’t think the stage level design is bad

Pretty good

[unique wedge]

That's what exactly they said when they played Update 3

[noble drift]

I dont get the generic zone complaints

[agile pawn]

I really hope Sega stays true to their word and starts pumping more money into Sonic games

[noble drift]

Egg Fortress looks lame but Golden Capital looks amazing

Frozen Base as well

[unique wedge]

I have not seen any of it really, I don't want to spoil myself too much
But I would be glad if there's some challenge to this game

[honest patio]

After Pinball Carnival they all began to blend in ngl

[noble drift]

There is

[unique wedge]

Whether it's hard or both annoying and hard

[noble drift]

I disagree

[honest patio]

Golden Capitol was really nice tho

[noble drift]

Hmmm

[honest patio]

Frozen Base looks meh

[boreal mirage]

That one is probably the worst looking

[honest patio]

I think these stages could’ve stuck out more if the visuals were a lot better

[noble drift]

Man what im supposed to say then lol

[honest patio]

I keep saying this but like

I didn’t realize they were playing the PS4 version until the end of the stream

I thought it was the switch

[boreal mirage]

^^^

[honest patio]

So I was like “oh boy I wonder how this’ll look on higher end consoles” 😭

[unique wedge]

Isn't the PS5 version double in size

[honest patio]

Really?

hope ‼️

[noble drift]

It is

[hoary trench]

Yep

[boreal mirage]

‼️

[noble drift]

The ps4 version is not the same as ps5

[unique wedge]

https://vxtwitter.com/PlaystationSize/status/1712467043147239794?s=20

[hoary trench]

Its 10 GB on PS5

Compared to 5 GB on PS4

[honest patio]

Hope it looks a lot better than

[unique wedge]

I wonder how low the switch is

[honest patio]

Jesus fuck

[noble drift]

From what i saw the ps4 version background blur is terrible and muddy

[unique wedge]

The download size overall is much less than what I expected

[honest patio]

Please deliver us from 360 tier graphics

[magic raptor]

I have a comparison between the switch and non-switch versions

[noble drift]

The ps5 version does not look like that

[magic raptor]

Hold on a sec

[boreal mirage]

If ps4 ver looks like that I can't imagine switch 💀

[hoary trench]

Switch version I can understand that

But PS4?!

[honest patio]

Switch version has the visuals of a 3DS game

[hoary trench]

That’s inexcusable

[noble drift]

The switch version has no background blur

[honest patio]

Like no exaggeration

[noble drift]

So it doesnt hide the fact its all pngs in the background

[honest patio]

Maybe Arzest isn’t used to making higher end games

[zenith kettle]

ps4 cant handle a game that asks for GTX 560 for recommended specs, it's so over

[hoary trench]

They aren’t

[zenith kettle]

🗿

[boreal mirage]

They made that yoshi one

[hoary trench]

They made a lot of 3ds games

[boreal mirage]

And balan

[honest patio]

Yoshi exploshi

[boreal mirage]

[unique wedge]

Could be the case

Lol

[hoary trench]

Balan Wonderworld was their first console game in a while

[magic raptor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1151550273832103936/1162072839952793740/bafkreiguhqtwh2vp2cfzorybp2wd2ac7eypqk5yovpdwwdebnxa2kgb7eq.jpg?ex=653a9bab&is=652826ab&hm=f152b72e15c968fa35c276cd5b9b6553ab9c88cc04ae0cdeedcb0e40b23bcd53&

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1151550273832103936/1162072840246399016/bafkreihc2ipmzz5u7ic4ifrggnd6gouttbwm5gazwrf2cglxj7hm35umtq.jpg?ex=653a9bab&is=652826ab&hm=8ec9fee660f23d6e9679b9c065ed9ca95adcb0e2758369bad583da8b4de61378&

[honest patio]

Oh yeah Balan looked trash on all platforms

Forgor

[boreal mirage]

Even with that

[magic raptor]

Oh huh guess I do have embed perms

[boreal mirage]

It's 60 bucks

60

[honest patio]

True

[hoary trench]

Thats more with the art direction itself

rather than high fidelity graphics

[honest patio]

I would not be this harsh if it was at the same price tag as Mania

[unique wedge]

Me when I see any game that costs 60 bucks

[tribal badger]

Sonic Superstars

[hoary trench]

I’m not gonna lie. This feels like a 40 dollar game