Sonic the Hedgehog 3

[old cloud]

Which means for Amy, They will use a modified version of the Sonic model

[formal hazel]

Oh they are not going to next for post credits obviously lmao

[brittle dew]

Ain’t nobody trying to remake sonic’s rig into charmy lmaooooo

[old cloud]

Unless they already made a separate model just cause.

[formal hazel]

As of now Amy has the best chance of the bunch because not only she has a similar base to Sonic's model, she is basically the last core cast (When it comes to their marketing) not appeared yet

After that it's pretty much whatever Paramount/SEGA is doing

[old cloud]

True, But you never know, some obscure character could show up, Hense Pachacamac in Knuckles.

[brittle dew]

Yea genuinely think she’s gotta be next, tho I dunno if she’ll be post-credits

[formal hazel]

I don't think she'll be alone

[astral lily]

That or choas

[brittle dew]

Hell, I dunno who could really replicate the hype that shadow had in 2

[formal hazel]

Chaos is honestly the next big deal due to chaos energy

No one honestly jane

[old cloud]

Like even Big could make a cameo somewhere.

[formal hazel]

But again it doesn't have to be that

[astral lily]

Sa1 for 4

[formal hazel]

Not every chars needs to be like Shadow in terms of marketing level

They can still pull it off somehow for a different direction

[granite island]

anyways, this was shown in a twitter groupchat i'm in, i wasn't wanting to post this until i got info proving this user's legitimacy, but i think i got enough? I dunno, though it might be, apparently this user called The Beyond Reporter is saying that a teaser trailer for Sonic 3 is releasing next week, the og tweet was age-restricted, this is from the og image i found this out from, anyways, now it's time i share evidence, i don't have too much, but this guy apparently leaked the Transformers One trailer date before any other news outlets confirmed it, he also leaked the trailer date for a movie called Lady and the Sea

not sure if the proof i have is enough, but i did want to make sure i had at least SOME kind of evidence instead of just sharing it and going like "OMG THIS IS PROBABLY FAKE BUT IMMA ACT LIKE IT'S NOT" like previously

[astral lily]

????????????

Looks suspicious

Like

Bunk

[old cloud]

who is that, because it seems like some random user.

[astral lily]

Looks fake

[old cloud]

the bio is in portuguese

Welcome to The Beyond Reporter.

Updates, News, Leaks and More.

[astral lily]

Still looks fake

[old cloud]

its been around since jan 2013

[old cloud]

Like we had twitter users say stuff, only for it to never happen, So that's pretty sus.

[astral lily]

See you in june

[granite island]

looking in the media part of his account, and all of his potential rumours are age-restricted seemingly, does seem kinda fishy

[old cloud]

You think the movies can bring in the comic characters?

[formal hazel]

no

[granite island]

heck no

[formal hazel]

You ain't getting chars like Tangle, Whisper, or Surge for a good ass long time lmao

[hushed swan]

no

[formal hazel]

You got to remember this. This series has butt load of well known chars

And considering how movies has been developed there is 0 chance we'll ever see the IDW chars at all

[granite island]

at most, if they could, they'd be characters exclusively in spinoff material

[old cloud]

Like maybe after a couple of movies or so, they bring in Doctor Starline

[formal hazel]

Nah they have 0 chance too, panty

[hushed swan]

everyone that's been introduced in the comics are still relatively new to casuals not too inversed in the series anyway

[formal hazel]

^

Plus the IDW chars only started to appear in a mobile game. Nowhere else yet

[old cloud]

eventually they are gonna run out of characters from the games, they could pull from the comics at some point.

[formal hazel]

Not really

Because again Movies in terms of development are in a complete different situation

[hushed swan]

like, go up to someone right now who has some familiarity of Sonic, and show them a picture of Tangle or Surge. and then ask them "do ya know who this is"

[formal hazel]

Antoher thing to realize is also how they introduce the chars

They were even struggling to try put both Tails and Knuckles

[old cloud]

this could be a way to introduce these new characters to them, that they might wanna check out the comics

[formal hazel]

And if Shadow is the only new char in Sonic 3 movie, it's going to give them far more room over the current game cast

[hushed swan]

And the way this series differs from the game series is vastly different

[formal hazel]

No I'm sorry, they just have 0 chance until th ey reach that point which even then

Is going to be like over 10 years lmao

[hushed swan]

and again, it's assuming we even get more of these live action films

[formal hazel]

mmhmm

[old cloud]

If Paramount is still around many years from now

[hushed swan]

cause for all we know, jeff could decide to wrap this series up with movie 3, and future films we get are animated ones

[old cloud]

It will be a while til Jeff decides to do a 4, Because after this, I think hes gonna work on the Pink Panther movie

And that pink panther movie is about the literal Pink Panther himself, So I see him getting a Sonic treatment.

[granite island]

there are only 2 things i want in the SCU related to Rouge, 1.

and 2. for whatever film she debuts in

[amber pasture]

Can we not

Also Panty, Paramount drops stuff on Tuesdays and Thursdays. This person says it’s releasing Friday

Nice try

[warped wadi]

Someone's Thursday is another's Friday

[astral lily]

Well

[old cloud]

https://fxtwitter.com/IGN/status/1780743736919822479

[granite meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-sleep-dog-dawg-eeper-gif-5083970977419902566

[shell wagon]

Unless this shit bombs we likely still are

Paramount didnt just invest in sonic, when sonic 2 did well ircc it invested in other sega ip

I would love for it to stop and we get a animation. But i dont for see them shifting direction like that

[hushed swan]

“Bombs”
Isn’t this movie going up against that live action Mufasa prequel on the same day?

It’s gonna do just fine

[shell wagon]

I dunno
Them live action disney things do weirdly well for them despite quality

We shall see

I think it will do well but...people just like those things

[uncut willow]

Well most people would probably just wait for it to get on D+

[hushed swan]

True

[restive fractal]

It’s also going up against avatar 3 if I’m not mistaken

[ivory hazel]

It got delayed to 2025

[restive fractal]

Oh alr

in that case yeah it’ll do fine

cause Disney’s been fumbling the bag so

[fierce pecan]

What’s everyone’s thoughts of this news?

[old cloud]

Probably the greatest casting in the history of cinema.

[fierce pecan]

I completely agree

[amber pasture]

https://fixupx.com/ign/status/1780771588172124376?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[obsidian spade]

Said this in the #1084637533490655252 chat but reposting it here because I seriously do not think that Amy is coming in Movie 3

reminder that she did jack shit in SA2 proper, so don’t expect her to have any sort of chance coming in Movie 3

hell maybe even Knuckles but I’d rather wait my judgement on that

[ivory hazel]

Yeah Amy doesn't do much. Like, on paper, she could do many things in sa2

but the way they executed them is not it

like she being first in Prison Island is great but she ends cornered by Eggman just for confusing Shadow with Sonic

(the joke on it's own its not bad, but it's weird that she didn't notice Shadow was with Eggman and Rouge)

[obsidian spade]

The most significant thing she does is free Sonic from his jail cell in SA2

a job that Tails would easily take care of

[ivory hazel]

Mainly because Tails is the one who saves her from Eggman in the first place lol

[obsidian spade]

that and the Shadow bit but she got shafted from that in Sonic X so…

[ivory hazel]

then she is just around just to be left behind a total of 7 times across the entire story in sa2

[obsidian spade]

Most useless character in the game

[ivory hazel]

(the 6th one makes her be trapped by Eggman...again, in the ARK which leads to the Sonic getting almost killed scene)

[obsidian spade]

So useless in fact that you can write her off in the movie and nothing that much would be different

[ivory hazel]

And even the shadow moment only happens because she is left behind...

again...

[obsidian spade]

Legit at most I can see Tom and/or Maddie taking the place of Amy in the Fake Emerald bit at the ARK

Jojo doing the Shadow bit

and Tails saving Sonic from jail

All roles Amy had in SA2

but done like how I’d think Paramount would do in Movie 3

[ivory hazel]

Mhm. She's extremely prescindible in sa2, which is a shame cause sa1 used her very well

[obsidian spade]

The fact that they skipped straight to SA2 while basically mostly ignoring SA1 says a lot about a character’s popularity

[ivory hazel]

Mhm

yeah, I still Amy is terribly written in sa2

and the joke just makes sonic and tails look like idiots most of the time

which hurts their portrayals in those games

[ivory hazel]

A shame, really. I like her thing in sa1 a lot, but sa2 is the more culturally impactful sonic game out of the two

[obsidian spade]

Amy in some popularity lists is barely in like the Top 5 btw

So no way in hell they’d add her before popular characters like Shadow for example

[ivory hazel]

Yeah I agree

[obsidian spade]

Plus there’s also the fact that the leaked storyboard we got for Movie 3 ||only showed Shadow and Eggman, no Amy Rose in sight||

[ivory hazel]

I wouldn't mind if Amy's role is given to someone else, but that someone must share a connection with Shadow beforehand for him to open up

[obsidian spade]

Like yea I joke around about Amy’s potential inclusion in Knuckles or Movie 3 but like, I am also serious too

I seriously do not expect her to be in for a good while

[ivory hazel]

Mhm. Jojo wouldn't be a bad idea honestly. A little girl of Maria's age aproximately, if not younger, would definetely click with Shadow

it would be kinda like Molly in X

(not seen lots of X but I know that Molly was important for Shadow in the anime)

[fallen aurora]

well

thats pretty normal

we havent seen anything aside from a logo 😭

I could easily say there is no knuckles or tails either and is mostly sonic v shadow

[obsidian spade]

There’s a difference between Amy and these two tho

Knux and Tails got their actors to reprise their roles

Plus we know that they’d have some sort of involvement in the movie

[fallen aurora]

yeah

thats coolio

[obsidian spade]

Amy got jack shit

[fallen aurora]

but Idk why would they announce amy rn with no trailer

better to be a surprise no?

[obsidian spade]

I can see Amy happening post Movie 3

[fallen aurora]

what if silver appears before amy

[obsidian spade]

I’d still be right in that I can see her happening post Movie 3

but that’s really up to future Sonic Movie Universe content for that to happen

[fallen aurora]

ig

but wouldnt it be funny

😭

like imagine

[obsidian spade]

I may be an optimist, but I am also a realist

also there’s the fact that Silver is uh…

not as popular as Sonic or Shadow

Hell, I doubt he’s more popular than Amy

[knotty prism]

no u aren't

factually you are not 😭

[fallen aurora]

I dont think that has to do much with amy appearing or not

since it would be kinda like

a villain post credit like thanos idk

[knotty prism]

Anyway I expect Amy to show up for the inevitable Adventure adaption or not at all

[obsidian spade]

going from SA2 to SA1 is forever going to be the most wtf moment of all time to me

if that Adventure adaptation ever does happen

Like we go from Shadow dying (but let’s be real here, they’re most likely gonna keep him alive somehow) to ancient water god destroys city

[knotty prism]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fqt4xrEWYAg1sZc.jpg

[obsidian spade]

I was right in her being barely in the top 5 lol

[knotty prism]

The most official poll I can remember rn

[obsidian spade]

5%

and that shit is just based off of the Japanese audience

[knotty prism]

Damn

[fallen aurora]

thats between japanese fans guys

but like

is probably still kinda the same outside of japan

amy do is popular but not as popular as some may think honestly

[knotty prism]

I'd expect worse considering the irritation factor ngl

[fallen aurora]

ig

yeah she was really irritating before

[obsidian spade]

Like yea Amy is popular, but not Shadow levels of popular

[fallen aurora]

prolly why most dont like her 💀

[knotty prism]

People cited the humor and voice direction as grating all the time back then

[fallen aurora]

I would say even silver is more popular than her imo

[knotty prism]

Albeit in much meaner words

[obsidian spade]

I’d argue otherwise cuz at least Amy didn’t come from a game that nearly killed the series

But then again how do I know

I am not Sega

[knotty prism]

Silver got treated the same kinda

If they want to make the series all about hitting all the most popular characters while leaving the least enjoyed behind, then it'd probably be Blaze, Chaotix, and uuuuuh Gamma next?

But that's lame as hell

[fallen aurora]

sometimes the design is stronger than the personality

[knotty prism]

I don't think Amy should be in movie 3 necessarily because of bloat, but I definitely wouldn't mind it especially in leiu of the fandom actually having another Sonic character in future films and TV shows rather than potentially the last one or something

Tails' introduction arc being done as dirty as it was in Sonic 2 felt super weak, yet people still were able to find enjoyment in it in spite of how shoehorned it was

But I still don't think it's happening lol

[wraith cedar]

This poll is like the entire dedicated Japanese fanbase lol

[shell wagon]

Amy's recent promience is more due to a push than her actual popularity. And that prominence is bsed on seniority rather than popularity to be blunt. She's kinda been floating by on sega has very little interest in using girls besides her. So I feel like maybe some fans took her as being a bit more popular than she is

[obsidian spade]

That push is dumb

unironically she does not fit in with Team Sonic period

like sure push the pink hedgehog that will surely get more sales

Despite the fact that she often gets overshadowed by everyone else

[amber pasture]

Honestly

Instead of Amy just have it be JoJo

That’s the best they can do without introducing Amy in the film

[knotty prism]

I feel like only Sonic fans can see things like Amy being added as playable to the classics, Superstars, and the most recent 3D games and think "this sucks, where are the more popular characters that SEGA would push in the same way"

[junior jay]

It's Pichu, don't worry about it

[knotty prism]

"Forced inclusion" they say as they bust out Silver for the umpteenth time

[vast skiff]

Forced diversity

[granite meadow]

Womp womp

[shell wagon]

My issue with it is it feels bare minimum

[knotty prism]

Knuckles becoming a part of team Sonic on the regular was also bare minimum

Actively harmful in some ways

[shell wagon]

They just changed amy's personality a bit and threw her into stuff. I woukd have liked more to it.

But also i think it should have been more women

[vast skiff]

To be fair they are adding more women

Kristen Ritter might be a main character

[knotty prism]

Advance games exist as well

[vast skiff]

:)

[shell wagon]

Not just her, her push for a while almost felt like an excuse to not use other girls. Now thats starting to change and im realizing characters like rouge are also getting the bare minum

[shell wagon]

DUDE

Why

We went from rarity rouge back to a unenthused transphobe

[vast skiff]

W h a t

Oh no are you shitting me

[knotty prism]

What do you mean, there weren't any other female characters back in 2003

[junior jay]

I think Village means Rouge VA

[obsidian spade]

I leave for ONE moment and I come back and see this

[junior jay]

...I hope

[shell wagon]

Yeah got the names confused

Sorry

[knotty prism]

Ok whew

[vast skiff]

O h thank f u kc

[obsidian spade]

fucking amazing how the second I say what I think, it escalates to this

[knotty prism]

?

[obsidian spade]

the Rouge VA bit

[knotty prism]

Don't worry about it

[knotty prism]

But like they were actively inventing characters at this time in service of this as well

Cream the Rabbit for one

[amber pasture]

Forced
Forces?! Sonic 4 is a Sonic Forces movie?!

[obsidian spade]

but now look at her, reduced to appearing in Comics

[junior jay]

Hey, she also appeared in a game that doesn't exist

[shell wagon]

I mean sonic as a series if im being honest has never had the greatest use of its lady characters gestures to blaze

I just woukd like them to do something with them tangible. Not just them theres a whole new group of them in the comics too. That are interesting

[knotty prism]

She was in Dream Team just right now

[untold summit]

sonic 4ces

[obsidian spade]

that does not count and you know it (thanks Apple)

[formal hazel]

Outside of Amy the female char treatment in sonic seires tends to be very inconsistent

[knotty prism]

I would like them to do anything tangible with their characters, unfortunately *guestures towards all of Knuckles*

[obsidian spade]

actually speaking of Cream, why haven't we seen her mom in recent games

the one people wanna--

[shell wagon]

Amy being the push feels odd to me. Like, i feel like other ladies kinda really needed that. But i have some mean opinions about amy so ill leave it alone

[formal hazel]

I feel like it's more so that Amy has enough legacy to stand out

[knotty prism]

So they jumped over to Rouge and now she's getting the same treatment

[uncut willow]

How does Dream Team not count

[knotty prism]

:\

[formal hazel]

Closest one that do however are Rouge and Cream

[obsidian spade]

do you own an Apple device?

[uncut willow]

Yes

[obsidian spade]

ah

there's your answer

[uncut willow]

?

[granite meadow]

?

[knotty prism]

?

[formal hazel]

The fuck you on bro?

[obsidian spade]

I am a secret Epic Games spy that hates Apple Arcade /j

[junior jay]

I hate both

[granite meadow]

Lost world isn't canon because it was only on the wii u guys

[uncut willow]

That's like saying that Mighty and Ray's first game was Mania

[obsidian spade]

fgayfhuhaiufhuiahfi

[knotty prism]

If you work for Epic you're equally invalid

[obsidian spade]

die

[shell wagon]

I mean, you arent wrong. But at the same time they declaired their disinterest in knuckles being anything in sa1 and while that sucks. I guess im "content" with it i feel like other characters have had set up and nothing. Not in universe distancing like knuckles

Like i can talk about the rogues going nowhere for hours

[granite meadow]

Nuh uh

[uncut willow]

Do you own a SegaSuper Sonic arcade cabinet?

No?

[shell wagon]

Again why werent the rogues in tsr

Why

[uncut willow]

Well there's your answer

[obsidian spade]

I actually work for PlayStation

[junior jay]

Yes frankly

[obsidian spade]

no wait

it's Xbox

[shell wagon]

In the most sincere and honest way does she?

[junior jay]

Pichu be like "I work for losers"

[shell wagon]

Shes old

But thats...it

[knotty prism]

The Rogues have the unfortunate case of being the spinoff characters devoted to one niche in their eyes ig

The board riders

[obsidian spade]

no wait I lied I work for Nintendo, I am their secret spy

[knotty prism]

The racers

Even though their in universe lore is more flexible

[obsidian spade]

watch out, I can see you all pirate Sonic Superstars on Yuzu

so delete it /j

[knotty prism]

By now she's appeared in most games with alternate playable characters, if nothing else for gameplay she does

Having a following actually looking forward to Amy-focused playstyles and hammer moves

[obsidian spade]

like yea amazing push for Amy SEGA

but like

[knotty prism]

You should change your caption to Amy hater

[obsidian spade]

that would not save people who already decided she was
A. an annoying bitch
B. too much of a generic girlboss

[obsidian spade]

you should drop that One Piece identity before the stupid One Piece fans come here

keyword being stupid not all

[shell wagon]

Rouge might have a greater more beloved legacy than she ever had ( its part of the reason i think shes showing up again).

I think any is...just old. And not even legacy old. Shes just a really old gag character. Like i dunno

[knotty prism]

The mantra of the sonic series coming out of the meta era is to ignore what haters think and capitalize on it's identity to the best of it's ability ignoring it

[obsidian spade]

people love Rouge either because she's cool or she's prime horny material

there's an inbetween but I am not finding that out

[knotty prism]

Ceding to this would be just ceding to the same pressure that green eyes haters would have

I don't think anyone working on the Sonic series should make decisions to avoid Amy because some see her as """an annoying bitch"""

[shell wagon]

I dunno if they fiending for her. Like i only hear discussion about that hammer in hyper enthusiasts spaces who lamet the rise of the tarot card.

I dunno if people really out in the streets for amy.

[granite meadow]

Some of y'all perception of what amy is makes me feel media litteracy is dissapearing little by little from the face of the earth

[knotty prism]

That'd be ignoring the very consistant use they have of Amy's character throughout the games, ironically moreso than Knuckles' own impact

[uncut willow]

Damn it my connection timed out

Anyways

[formal hazel]

I am saying comparing to other female chars

And I said she "Stands out" the most

Nothing else

[uncut willow]

They chose Amy because she's the most recognizable female character in the franchise by a wide margin

[shell wagon]

No one is talking about her character. We are talking about how people perceive her or if they even care. At least on my end its not a media literacy convo

[knotty prism]

The way it jumps back and forth between gag characterization and serious impact is something that Knuckles should have had long ago

[shell wagon]

I think thats rouge actually

[formal hazel]

Back then maybe

But now? No

[knotty prism]

Yeah I don't think Rouge is that popular

[shell wagon]

I think its still rouge

[knotty prism]

Mmmmmmmm

More than Amy?

MMmmmmmmmm

[formal hazel]

Okay

Then where is rouge's push

[uncut willow]

Rouge is popular with the gooners

[knotty prism]

[uncut willow]

The actual word is banned

[formal hazel]

Another thing is also if you go by both marketing and popularity

Amy is one of the more consistent Sonic chars

Rouge is just on and off

[granite meadow]

Gooners ?

[uncut willow]

Is it not banned anymore?

Gooners

Oh

[granite meadow]

[formal hazel]

Look I know Rouge is popular but she is nowhere near close as she was anymore

Rouge suffered the similar fate as with Silver and Cream

[uncut willow]

But anyways yeah, Amy has been in nearly every game and piece of media that's been released, with the exception of the movies and some of the classics

[formal hazel]

Even most of the time Amy has one of the largest amount of focused sonic char wise

Rouge? She has very little and even if she does it's whenever Shadow is involved

[uncut willow]

Casuals know who she is just by proxy of being Sonic's "love interest" archetype

[shell wagon]

You have gotten to my point. There should be. Sega amy push feels like a way to not engage with other girls " see we did it" and not try.

Rouge debuted in again, possibly the most culturally relevant sonic game to like exist. And was a beloved part of maybe the popular sonic cartoon to exist. And was stable mates with the series most popular character

Amy just kinda existed and annoyed alor of people untill very recently. And i don't think those appearences endeared her.

You know who i see trend on Twitter when the 3rd movie, not amy. Rouge. Casual/normal people are wondering about rouge because they see her as needed for sa2.

I think its genuinely rouge. Sonic team kinda doesnt care is all

[knotty prism]

Mind you we're, again, in the era where people are saying Rouge should be benched because they're now putting her in too much for the sake of it

[shell wagon]

, its a lot of girls who just think rouge is cool. Gooners can like character but also often not participate in the actual finacial goings on in the series. Thry arent a reliable audience in this instance

[knotty prism]

We want her to be handled with actual consideration for if she matches the story well rather than "female char rep", but that ignores the fact that SEGA routinely pushes characters characters inclusion in games casts at the cost of that oftentimes

[shell wagon]

I think people are saying why is she hanging out with sonic. Not for her to bd benched

[vast skiff]

Amy Rose is Amy rose she is the pink sonic

Girl sonic

Like

[shell wagon]

True

[restive fractal]

the pink girl sonic

[vast skiff]

People may not know who amy is

But when they see amy

She is girl sonic

The Minnie to Mickey

Like people are not gonna be like
Who tf is she

[shell wagon]

Ehhhhh

Kindly, no.

[vast skiff]

They see her and they are like oh shes sonics love interest or sister or whatever

She is recongizabl by principle

[shell wagon]

She has no where near that pull and seeing her is kinda irrelevant. What matters is if they care. And i dont know if they do like that.

[vast skiff]

Rouge the bat is not as popular as her

At all

[restive fractal]

I can only imagine all the little kids at 3 saying “look mommy, it’s pink sonic!”

[shell wagon]

She clears easy

[vast skiff]

People dont even know to pronounce Rouge's name

Clears what??? R34???

[shell wagon]

I heard a whole child call shadow black sonic and said that was his favorite character

Pronouncing or even getting the name is irrelevant. What matters is they care

[restive fractal]

What’s r34

[knotty prism]

But they don't 💀

They don't care

Not like that

There's a massive conversation regarding movie 3 but

There's a dozen factors in that

[restive fractal]

I was trying not to bust my ass laughing to black sonic at my theatre when 2 played

[knotty prism]

People wanting to see how they'd handle it

People who want to see if they dare

People who legit want to see a character they loved

People who want to see a redesign

People who want it for the lols

People who want SA2 as SA2 for SA2's sake

It's similar to how Shadow's game is talked about, but that's mainly with the relevance of a SA2 adaption

You can argue that people care because of that immediate relevancy, but once that's gone?

What's leftover?

[shell wagon]

Being a character people like.
Amy for a large portion of her career. She was annoying and off putting. X Was/is a very popular sonic cartoon..it aired for years after it ended. Kids who didnt grow up during that era have seem x. And in x to most people she's a wild annoying angry aggressive unreasonable girl. And rouge is cool, she hangs out with shadow, she flirts with knuckles, she always has a plan. This has been the mindset of more casual fans for years. And i do not think the recent amy push has done enough to actually sway that mentality. Because even within those pushes they dont do much with her. She just exists.

But people renember heroes fondly. And "oh hey its the cool girl that hangs out with shadow"

[knotty prism]

None of this is going to make people push for Rouge in platformer #57 over Amy in principle

Or want for it; that's the argument here

[shell wagon]

I dont think anyone is pushing for either

[knotty prism]

Then?

Where's the "Amy shouldn't be frontlining, Rouge should be" argument for popularity coming from then 😭

I get it for the movie but anywhere else

Nah

[shell wagon]

I just think i guess to circle it all the way around. I think maybe sega pushes have made us think amy is more relevant to sonic audiences than she is. And maybe her not geing included in the films isnt going to be the issue we think it might be

I got off the rails, but that was my intial point. Like sega just pushed her. I dunno if people care about that

[knotty prism]

I'll agree with the movies moreso; the focus was on games and SEGA's handling for me

[shell wagon]

Not everyones the rock
Sometimes you are intial debut romak reigns

But that doesnt mean you can be come back roman

Amy can improve i think it will require more effort from sega when handling her. Other ladies too.

[formal hazel]

I'll say this earlier. I am not saying like Amy is anywhere close compared to Sonic, Eggman, and Shadow since they are a tier of their own or even Knuckles and Tails since they have far bigger push

She still stands out the most compared to majority of the sonic cast but is not like say a very huge deal

But in terms of any big push over any sonic female chars, Amy has the best shot

[brittle dew]

Sega pooling their newfound resources from Atlus to make the most sexist & homophobic sonic game of all time

[formal hazel]

[knotty prism]

That is sorta true, especially after a SA2 adaption

[formal hazel]

Rouge has potential but I still say they fumbled her unfortunetly

Just suffer the same fate as Cream

[brittle dew]

Iizuka going round persona hq with a big clipboard going “hmm yes, I see, very clear now”

[knotty prism]

In terms of movies maybe rouge has a chance in whatever Shadow focused thing they might do

[formal hazel]

okay for one this is not about sexist bs

Many main female protagonist suffer from this jane

[formal hazel]

yeah

[knotty prism]

It just seems incredibly unlikely if they skip it in movie 3

[formal hazel]

Yeah if Rouge does not appear in movie 3, she lost her chance

Since movie is the best chance for a char's redemption

[granite island]

i think she's getting her push rn, with her being apart of Team Sonic in Prime and Dream Team, i'm thinking SEGA are pushing for her to become the next member of the main cast

[shell wagon]

I would argue they fumbled all the ladies. They sega decided to do something with amy is all.

I dont think sega has handled women the best in over the series. Are argument above was essentially fighting for table scraps

[granite island]

the one thing i don't want in the movies, is for Amy to be a mary sue, or a girlboss, or both, i think she should be a silly mischievous girlfailure

[shell wagon]

Thats insane cursed energy. That guy isnt working on persona atm. So hopefully that stuff dies down in p6. He is working on that new rpg. So good lord that game might have some awful shit in it

[vast skiff]

True

[shell wagon]

I think girlfailure exists in the same lane of girlboss of not being much of a personality.

She should just...be interesting

Thats all i want

But she gonna be voiced by awkafina so we are cursed anyway

[knotty prism]

I still don't see how they fumbled Amy's handling when it's a fairly natural push for playability

Adventure onwards makes it fairly alright

Hell Adventure to begin with is a great contextualization

[shell wagon]

Historically up untill very recently considering she was widely criticized as very aggressive abd annoying and people didnt like her. Thats a fumble

Like , like or hate boom. But boom is when normal people started to enjoy that character

[granite island]

i think Amy was at her best in Sonic X, and i think that should reflect how the movies portray her, minus her obsession over Sonic, i could live without that being apart of her character

[shell wagon]

And thats what matters, to sega at least

Which is why a lot of interpretations now leech off boom

[knotty prism]

X is probably the worst about that though 💀

[granite meadow]

As of recently it's def tmosth that got her best

[knotty prism]

There's no knocking her inclusion in the advance games though

Adventure > advance games are a great foundation

Heroes kinda fucks it up though

Advance was the part where SEGA tried pushing the "main cast" as playables though

Which they revived as soon as they brought playables back

[brittle dew]

I’ll be real, I do think a big part of the issue’s not having enough lasses in the writers room too - IDW’s not perfect with all of em, but it at least feels like a big step above it all by not having just a blokesfest behind the wheel

[knotty prism]

The way some people talked about IDW writers when it was on the camping arc was

[brittle dew]

this series desperately needs more variety behind the writing than white straight men lol, Ian’s neat enough but some new blood would be neater

[formal hazel]

Ah yes Knuckles. a straight white man

🙂

[knotty prism]

?

[brittle dew]

knuckles the famous writer

[formal hazel]

I'm just going by what jane is saying because it's a sheer ?????

Also they are "humanoid" like animals so how does that make any fucking sense!?

[brittle dew]

what

[knotty prism]

sgm you either need to reread or get some coffee

[uncut willow]

Sgm I think you're discussing the wrong thing

[junior jay]

She means writers

[brittle dew]

please read the actual messages again lol I’m talking about writers, actual human writers writing the games

[junior jay]

Not Knuckles lmao

[granite meadow]

I don't get your point ? Like, evan also writes for the series, and i'm sure you know that.

And yeah there's also the writer for scrapnik

[knotty prism]

That's why I brought up the camping arc

[brittle dew]

Bless Daniel, he desperately needs to be on more sonic stuff

[knotty prism]

Lotta people's kneejerk reaction was.... not good in understated ways

[brittle dew]

Evan too, her on the story team’s a great start

[formal hazel]

I was so confused what jane is trying to say

[knotty prism]

She is headlining the series now so

[shell wagon]

I agree. Like i enjoy ians writing. But
If i can be honest having evan on the pen for the women helps alot especially for rouge

[uncut willow]

She's been the head writer for like a year or so, no?

[shell wagon]

Shes written before that too

[brittle dew]

But also that brings me to my second big point

dare I say, honestly… we need some more writers that aren’t galactic-level superfans and just like this series a normal amount

[shell wagon]

What always stuck out to me is rouges handling in chao bases. Its very good especially her interaction with shadow

[shell wagon]

YES

YOU GET IT

YES

[knotty prism]

Normal people aren't going to be able to write for the canon any better than superfans when it comes to "working inbetween the lines" tho

[granite meadow]

We tried that for the past 15 years, that sure worked out well

[knotty prism]

If anything I'd say the opposite is more likely

[shell wagon]

There are clear times where the writers have entirely too much reverence for a concept and character that makes the plot worse

So yes

They can

[brittle dew]

like, going between IDW and Skybound transformers is a great example of it, both of them have reverence for the source material but show it in very different ways - and with skybound hooooo fuckin boy I know which approach I prefer

[shell wagon]

Like you could te johnathan hickman to write for sonic the man likeky knows very little and he would fo the research he needs and do a bang up job

[knotty prism]

That's fine if they do the research, but we've seen multiple times that they often don't

[granite meadow]

Yep.

[knotty prism]

That's Prime and Pontaff and so on's failing

[formal hazel]

Honestly I disagree

[shell wagon]

I dont think its "often" most times writers do. We have experienced bad writing

[formal hazel]

Even if they got "ambitious" writers that doesn't mean it'll be that huge of a deal story wise

Even both Yakuza and Persona suffer from this

SEGA when it comes to doing story isn't really their strongest suit

At best they tends to be decent but nothing too memorable

[granite meadow]

Uhhhh

[brittle dew]

Then don’t! Write a fuckin banger of a story pitch and work that into canon somehow, rather than the current approach of using canon as the starting point and going outwards from there

[formal hazel]

Look I'm sorry but SEGA doing a story compared to like Square Enix and Sony is the last thing I expect

💀

[brittle dew]

You shouldn’t be writing for the canon, a nonphysical abstract concept of a thing - you should be writing banger stories and adjusting to canon later on down the line

[knotty prism]

The reason you have to use canon as the starting point is because there's writers/creators in the room still

[shell wagon]

And i know me saying this is hypocritical to a degree. Because i would argue half of shadows idw issues are certain writers maybe not caring about him that much.

But yeah theres a quite a few story beats in idw that i feel "it would be better if you liked this thing less actually "

[knotty prism]

It'd be fine if this was comic books where the original creative teams have left the writing rooms by now

But they're still there, and still want "the canon" in spite of how poorly they've handled it

[granite meadow]

This ain't marvel or dc where they can just create another timeline for each writers because nobody gives a single fuck about it

[knotty prism]

Not yet at least

[granite meadow]

Not yet indeed

I sure hope idw never takes this route

[vast skiff]

Idw sucks

They have all these amazing characters and dont do anything with them for me to like em

[granite meadow]

You used to like prime and understood it was absolute trash so imma wait

[knotty prism]

I think IDW is a bit different from that 💀

[formal hazel]

My only issue with IDW is the worldbuiliding is too limited

[vast skiff]

Very different

Even

[formal hazel]

That's about it

[vast skiff]

IDW just meanders so hard into nothingness

[shell wagon]

They should

[vast skiff]

And the creativity to see the characters do crazy fun stuff is so jailed

[shell wagon]

They should just do that

They should do tht all the time

[knotty prism]

Universe 629 Sonic

Universe 382 Sonic

[granite meadow]

Kms

[formal hazel]

Sure

If Marvel or DC does it

[knotty prism]

Y'know this is making me realize

How dumb it is that other writers take over for established universe comic chars to begin with

And then they get into wars over it?

Retconning stuff back and forth?

That's wild

[uncut willow]

I'd probably distance myself from the comics if they started doing that shit

Or just stop reading them entirely

[formal hazel]

Same

I rather have a consistent story over doing multiple retcons every damn time

It's why I never got into the comics

[junior jay]

would Movie Sonic be Universe 199999 Sonic

[granite meadow]

Thank god they stopped archie tbh

[brittle dew]

something something US comics pacing fundamentally flawed

[knotty prism]

Yes

[brittle dew]

genuinely think above all else stapling themselves to the US comics release formatting is what's killing my interest rn

waiting a month (or more sometimes with delays!!) for a tiny slither of story really just ain't working out for me

[formal hazel]

It's always like this?

Like not just Sonic?

[brittle dew]

yes!! and its bad!!

[formal hazel]

..........bro

[brittle dew]

just because it's always been one way doesn't mean it always should be

[granite meadow]

And what would you do then ?

/gen

[brittle dew]

one of two things:
a: do something similar to StC/the IDW annuals and have multiple shorter strips running in each issue, packed to the gills with several different ongoing adventures - more variety, more characters, snappier pacing, the works

b: ...scrap the individual issues and move to a solely collected issues format - one big fat chonky book with one big fat chonky story every few months to read through all in one go, without having to work round individual lil cliffhangers or solicitations or anything

[knotty prism]

B would be best considering the formating IDW had ngl

Everyone always ignores the side stories when it comes to IDW output

[brittle dew]

B genuinely feels like what IDW wants to be but it's clinging onto the individual floppies

like, reading multiple issues you can really tell it's not meant to be read over months lol

[knotty prism]

And tbf they are sold in barnes and nobles as volumes iirc

Probably makes a good chunk of their profits?

[brittle dew]

oh 100%, it's the only way kids are getting their hands on these comics as far as I'm concerned

individual comic books are very much locked to The comic book store and other nerd outlets where you kinda need to know these things exist to find em, but the collected books? here there and everywhere, even like school book fairs

it's a method that's clearly working and I kinda wish they'd just, fully swivel to that lol

[granite meadow]

I vibe with this idea, but not the first one lmao

Make it seasonal

Or like, semestrial

Problem with these ideas

Is that it would make it a lot harder to do side stories imho

[brittle dew]

with B perhaps, for A tho it'd be bread and butter

[granite meadow]

So like

[shell wagon]

Lets be clear there are plenty of writers who love and love writing in continuity
And continuity is a fun thing

Yhete shouldn't also be options

[granite meadow]

Kinda like pre publication magazines in japan ?

[shell wagon]

Thats not a retcon

[ivory hazel]

X and Battle having a fight to see who has the worst Amy out of the 2000's:

[shell wagon]

And you all do this all the time

This a very silly mindset imo

[brittle dew]

not so familiar with those, but I'm thinking mostly the UK comics format/StC

[granite meadow]

Not so familiar with those either

[shell wagon]

When you watch batman, when you read batman, when you see him in a game

Those are 3 different batmem with numbers assigned

[brittle dew]

(but like, monthly instead of weekly/fortnightly)

[shell wagon]

You just didn't notice

[ivory hazel]

Since issue 33

[shell wagon]

The idea this would cause inconsistencies is sillies

[uncut willow]

That's completely different from following three different timelines in comics

[shell wagon]

Not at all

Follow the one you care for at the moment

Thats it

[uncut willow]

It really is
It's three different mediums

If it all stems from the same medium, then it'll get tedious

[shell wagon]

Its not. Read the one you care about

[knotty prism]

It gets that bad with concurrent TV shows and movies that are different continuities as well

[shell wagon]

Also there are multiple batman comics that go on at once. Read the one you care about

[knotty prism]

I know for damn sure I'm less interested in batman if three different versions of him are on the big screen at the same time

[shell wagon]

Thats it

[granite meadow]

Then fuck it all ig

[shell wagon]

Huh?

[granite meadow]

You don't like it ? Womp womp it's gonna stay this way for 10 years too bad bozo

[knotty prism]

I still haven't read my batman comics that I have because of the feeling that it's just a drop in the ocean

[brittle dew]

doing multiple stories in one issue also has an added bonus, one of StC's quietest strengths:

...if one strip blows chunks? there's multiple others to read instead within the same comic, a page turn away, job done

[shell wagon]

Start where you think looks interesting and reas

Thats it

Comics arent a boogie man

Pick up a book

[knotty prism]

The only character that I think could pull this off is something like Spiderman

[shell wagon]

Pick up a trade and read

[knotty prism]

If they revived the sam rami movies alongside the mcu alongside an amazing reboot

But even then

That's pushing it

[brittle dew]

(StC had this a bunch, there was always at least one Wonder Boy or Eternal Champions or Tails strip running that would utterly blow chunks lol - but unlike IDW sonic where if the main story blows you just gotta grin and bear it, here you can just... turn the page and have a bit more of something else, usually better)

[shell wagon]

It was great when archie had sonic universe

When the main book story got bad i could engage with other stuff

Wish idw had that

[knotty prism]

Ok

[knotty prism]

Sonic Universe was canon to Archie though

[shell wagon]

Now read it. I want a book report by tomorrow morning. Its gonna factor into your grade

[knotty prism]

Pushed the story forwards

[knotty prism]

I got a job interview and work

I can't go to class no mo

[shell wagon]

Not saying it wasnt. I just generally would like idw sonic universe

[knotty prism]

I mean I would too

It's just that's completely different than continuity free for all imo

[shell wagon]

Might fail the semester we may have to schedule a parent teacher conference

[brittle dew]

every issue delayed to the 32nd of every month

[knotty prism]

[shut kayak]

good luck with the interview 🫡

[knotty prism]

Ty I'll do my best 🫡

Also that invincible comic in the background highlights my favorite kind of story

One comic driven by a creator as a continuous run

Then afterwards you get the takes based off of it

S' why I like Manga over comics to begin with

[uncut willow]

I've been interested in reading Invincible

Just never can find the time

[vast skiff]

Gl wirh the interview delet

[shell wagon]

I feel like yall would like this run

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/6/6b/Red_Hood_and_the_Outlaws_Vol_2_1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160803131439

[knotty prism]

The show is really good primer for them ngl

[amber pasture]

https://x.com/semifreqsonic/status/1780951917692166514?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

Semi Frequent Sonic Facts 🔫🦔 (@semifreqsonic) on X

The Sonic the Hedgehog movie universe takes place in the current day. In 2022's Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Shadow is claimed to be created over 50 years ago.

It's likely that the Space Colony ARK's raid occurred when Richard "Fuckass" Nixon was in office as president.

Twitter · Apr 18, 2024, 1:30 PM

[shell wagon]

I enjoy both methods. Though ill say this. Theres less weird dudes with hang ups getting writing positions and fucking up your faves in manga.

[junior jay]

Puh

[hollow perch]

Excited to see how the Sonic 3 Movie factors into the IDW Sonic Series, General comic production, and the other things being mentioned.

Please move discussions to the proper ports.

[shell wagon]

Both sides if the industry need better pay and work hours though

But we all do really

[ivory hazel]

The manga industry needs also a huge check up tbf

A lot of mangaka's lifespan tend to be much shorter in comparison to a normal person's

Due to the excesive amount of work they got to do

[shell wagon]

Yeah i saw that chart its wild

Like 10 ~ 20 years

Thats damn near what wrestling does to you

Thats crazy

Hmm tbf ill say its half what wrestling does. But it's still a lot

[granite meadow]

I can get behind monthly tbh

[brittle dew]

robotnik looking into why GUN was shuttered a decade later like

[knotty prism]

If nothing else I enjoy the fact that the movies are able to tell one consistant story with the characters they have already established

Like this is the crew's own branch and they'll be able to take advantage of it proper now

Might not be to everyone's tastes but it is nice that it's got potential like that

[shell wagon]

If reagan was the bad guy in sonic 3 i would forgive so mucg

[knotty prism]

It's Paramount

😭

[shell wagon]

I know
But like
What if

[knotty prism]

They aren't doing shit to american history

[shell wagon]

What if they got real bold. Like that one guy who wanted to make his fascism movie and make sonic ugly left. And they got bold as hell

[knotty prism]

Jeff Fowler's big finale

[granite meadow]

Iirc monthly is between 40 and 50 pages per months which is like... a lot but not as insane as weekly

[shell wagon]

" even this is reagans fault " would be a crazy finale

[brittle dew]

counterpoint:

...reagan/thatcher teamup

[shell wagon]

Thats basically a eldrich demon fueled by human suffering

So it fits as a adventure era sonic boss

[brittle dew]

gvchjfgyfhgfgfgf

[knotty prism]

Honestly if they like, make it a Jim Carrey line, it might make it through?

Maybe

Maybe I'm overestimating how "patriotic" Paramount fully is though

[shell wagon]

" Even this is Reagan's fault. His villiany is aspirational"

[granite meadow]

dw y'all, we'll get sonic movie 4 with cgi jim carrey

[shell wagon]

You might not be. The guy who demanded sonic be ugly wants to make a non saterical adapation of starship troppers

[knotty prism]

[brittle dew]

carreybotnik seeing perfect chaos and going "that's nearly as much bodily fluid as thatcher's public urinal grave!"

[shell wagon]

Its my favorite fact about that dude and combined with ugly sonic proof that executives no shit ass about film making these days

Or audiences in general

[shut kayak]

ok but imagine they actually pull an archie and then the post credits scene is just him looking like this

[granite meadow]

i mean...

they could go this route or

replace's an actor's face with jim's with cgi

[shut kayak]

that feels unethical and weird tho lmao

i mean even if they do get premission it just feels

weird

[granite meadow]

if they bought the rights for his likeness people just won't care

[shut kayak]

i would lmao

[knotty prism]

Ew

[shut kayak]

im sorry i dont think you can fake jim carrey

thats just

not working

[granite meadow]

with weta it would

[knotty prism]

would kinda feel like a slap in the face after bringing him back

[formal hazel]

Yeah I can't see them doing so

[junior jay]

Yeah no don't fucking do that

It's both gross and it never looked good

[formal hazel]

That's just a complete asspull

[shut kayak]

just make him a cartoon and say its a robot

problem solved

[granite meadow]

oh dgmw i am not for that 😭 just saying they could

[granite meadow]

bein honest the only time it worked with with paul walker

despite it being already almost a decade old

[brittle dew]

only time its ever worked is clu tron legacy, and thats precisely because it looks a bit shit but it fits them being in the computer

[granite meadow]

it's still the best attempt at it imo

[formal hazel]

Yeah I'm sorry no. They are not going to do that kind of move at all

[granite meadow]

it helped that it was one of his brother playing

why are you sorry lmao ?

[formal hazel]

Because that's how I typed????

[granite meadow]

no i meant lmao

it would onlu make sense that they're not going to do that

and yeah thxfully

[formal hazel]

ye

[amber pasture]

https://x.com/binaal84852/status/1780688764030861386?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

Sonicua🏳️‍🌈 (@BinaAl84852) on X

#SonicTheHedgehog #ShadowTheHedeghog #SonicMovie3 #keanureeves

Twitter · Apr 17, 2024, 8:04 PM

[steep dock]

Sexist

[woven gazelle]

You know what would be an amazing marketing opportunity?

Movie Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Shadow doing a Wired Autocomplete Interview

[amber pasture]

That or… an actual Sonic cross promotion with Sonic

[hushed swan]

one of those things would probably happen

you can probably guess which one is more likely

[amber pasture]

Trust me I know

[sullen mural]

Oh I would love that!

[amber pasture]

https://x.com/miexriir/status/1781029215485464798?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

Michal Shafrir (@Miexriir) on X

they told him about maria and he fell to his knees

Twitter · Apr 18, 2024, 6:37 PM

[vast skiff]

Oh no what

[amber pasture]

That’s an old instagram post

[vast skiff]

Ah ok lmao

[knotty prism]

https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1781092304565964820?s=61&t=zqpjWcXO8PrjpiFxT1WbhA

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

Sony Pictures is in talks to buy Paramount Pictures

They will make a joint bid with investment firm Apollo.

(Source: https://t.co/AocUY0fBmO)

Twitter · Apr 18, 2024, 10:47 PM

Well

[vast skiff]

No

[bronze rover]

sonic in the sinister six movie wow

[formal hazel]

if this happens, things come full circle

[granite meadow]

Will they able to buy it tho ?

[formal hazel]

the sonic movie was supposed to be handled by sony originally

before switching to paramount

[keen lagoon]

Might get that Sonic and spider man crossover, idfk, probably not, I’m just yappin

[old cloud]

Maybe we'll get an Angry Birds x Sonic crossover

[granite meadow]

Paramount must be worth smthng like 10 billions at least, idk if sony has that kind of money

[amber pasture]

Sonic the Hedgedog

[old cloud]

https://antifandom.com/cancelled-movies/wiki/Sonic_The_Hedgehog_(Sony_Pictures_Animation)

This was a press release in 2014 https://www.sonypictures.com/corp/press_releases/2014/06_14/061014_sonic.html

[small pulsar]

It depends on what Viacom wants the money for really

Wouldn’t put it past them

Warner tried to buy paramount

[old cloud]

Fortunately that deal never happened

[small pulsar]

But it’s def showing that paramount is on thin ice rn

[shell wagon]

yeah this sonic movie might be the last one

[keen lagoon]

Nah

[ivory hazel]

It gets more than their SCU so :v

[small pulsar]

Na I highly doubt that

Sonic and some others are keeping them afloat

[keen lagoon]

Knowing Sony, if they acquire that branch, it’s more likely they’re gonna try and keep going. Ik they’re struggling in trying to find their main money piece atm with all these fuckin spider-man spinoffs and stuff

[small pulsar]

Paramount somewhat struggling too

The only movie company that is somewhat booming is Universal

[shell wagon]

Maybe, but you being completely reasonable. And execs and people who have just got put into positions via mergers get real unreasonable

When mergers happen

[restive fractal]

what

[shell wagon]

I just watched a man write off so much shit for tax write offs to loose more money than he was supposed to make back

[small pulsar]

But remember

This is sonic

Paramount’s main money maker

They struggle with properties like TMNT and transformers

But ever since sonic came along, it’s their new cash cow

[shell wagon]

You being real reasonable

And I like that

[small pulsar]

The thing with Warner brothers and I hate to say this shit

There’s a reason why they continued with flash and canceled coyote v acme

Looney tunes ain’t that popular anymore 😭

[shell wagon]

It wasn't just WB we just watched a whole bunch of companies merger, lay off staff cancel projects etc

even big ones

There's a good chance nothing will happen

[small pulsar]

While yes there’s most likely gonna be layoffs

[shell wagon]

but there's also a chance, some guy will just not like sonic and he has enough power for it to be over

[small pulsar]

Canceling something as huge as sonic would put paramount in the ground

[small pulsar]

I also think sega might have a say too

[shell wagon]

Maybe

[small pulsar]

Since they’re the ones giving money to paramount for their IP

And it’s not like a SpongeBob thing where Viacom and Paramount are closely connected

[old cloud]

They kept rebooting TMNT and Transformers all the time

[small pulsar]

The worst

Very worst outcome

[old cloud]

they won't ever reboot Sonic.

[small pulsar]

Is let’s say paramount for some apparent reason DID get rid of sonic from their movies

Since multimedia marketing is so important for the brand, they would immediately just move other to the next company that gives them an offer

At this point they’re not gonna abandon the movie market

[old cloud]

I could see them maybe try an animated Sonic Movie at some point in the future.

after a couple of live action movies

[ivory hazel]

Yeah, probably as an experiment

but they got to be very careful.

[granite island]

wait, Sony owns the film rights to Spider-Man, that means, if Sony buys Paramount

WE COULD GET A SONIC AND SPIDER-MAN CROSSOVER MOVIE

[ivory hazel]

Nah :v

[small pulsar]

Sega ain’t allowing that shit 😭

[old cloud]

an Angry Birds Sonic crossover would be more plausible, Because Sega owns that, and Sony has the Angry Birds movie rights.

But as an animated movie

[brittle dew]

Every time someone responds to a company merger with “what if they could do crossovers now!!” I die a little bit more inside

[granite island]

Movie Sonic and Chuck would be besties ngl

[brittle dew]

hundreds of people are going to lose their jobs if this goes ahead can we not think about mashing action figures together for like five mins lol

[granite island]

at least this is a buyout and not a merger like Warner Bros Discovery, that's all i'll say

[ivory hazel]

I think you're missing the point, Panty

The point is that, in this type of transactions, a lot of employes and projects usually are thrown away to the garbage in pro of saving the biggest amount of money as possible

[granite island]

yeah, i think i am ngl

[granite island]

holy shit

if that's what's going on, THE SCU IS IN DANGER, AGAIN

[amber pasture]

Yooo it’s Shadow’s VA’s birthd- oh right my b https://x.com/discussingfilm/status/1781117914789097641?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

Today is Hayden Christensen’s 43rd birthday!

Twitter · Apr 19, 2024, 12:29 AM

[granite island]

though i might be missing the point again

[amber pasture]

Happy birthday to him nonetheless

[ivory hazel]

Uh kind of..? It could compromise the people behind the project for sure. I think ultimately we should be concerned about the people who could lose their jobs just for corporate greed, as Jane would say with much harsher words

[brittle dew]

damn am I really characterised as the mean one 😭😭

[ivory hazel]

I wouldn't say mean one, more so direct and without trying to soften the blow

[brittle dew]

fair fair

anyways I think all corporate executives should face the guillotine in this ted talk I will-

[amber pasture]

https://fixupx.com/gitaroo_man/status/1780981353250771443?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[amber pasture]

Huh…

Stars in the Sky is canon in universe apparently

https://fixupx.com/ign/status/1781142635840987224?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[fallen aurora]

I dont think so but yeah sonic just their new transformers

they gonna try to milk it for at least 3 or 4 more movies

[junior jay]

https://youtu.be/me-HUZLiTcU?feature=shared

[junior jay]

Also yeah, you're either delusional or a kid if you think this buyout will lead to crossovers or better content somehow

[shell wagon]

yeeep

[amber pasture]

SHADOW WAIT https://x.com/discussingfilm/status/1781352830671950101?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

Keanu Reeves will star in Ruben Östlund’s next movie ‘THE ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM IS DOWN’

The film is a social satire set on a long-haul flight on which the entertainment system isn’t working which sparks major chaos.

(Source: https://t.co/XNKbEkXT8H)

Twitter · Apr 19, 2024, 4:03 PM

[formal hazel]

I am already seeing people freaking out over the potential sonic and spider-man crossover. Such a pain seeing thinking acquisition is a "good" thing somehow 😔

[astral lily]

💀💀💀

[obsidian spade]

There is a Sonic and Spider-Man crossover

[restive fractal]

Sorry to break it to ya but that shit ain’t happening

[frozen flume]

SGM is not saying that it would be a good thing, so there’s no reason to “apologize” lol

[frozen flume]

I think you’ve been misusing this image

You know it’s meant to be used when the opposite of what you’re saying is true, right?

[obsidian spade]

[restive fractal]

behold the steal-your-image-inator

[formal hazel]

fr I wasn't even saying it'll happen

💀

[granite island]

https://vxtwitter.com/KellytoyDK/status/1781501575854199277 Unrelated to Sonic 3, but SONIC 2 IS PREMIERING ON NICK NEXT WEEKEND

[formal hazel]

[old cloud]

Yep, Its gonna air on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

Sonic Movie 1 is gonna air again tomorrow at 4:45pm

[old cloud]

Sonic Movie 2 Nickelodeon promo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujmN4FcCEvg

[woven gazelle]

Brain genius moment:

Final trailer for Sonic 3 (when it comes to that) premiering during "The Game" (Michigan vs. Ohio State) on November 30th

oh wait, darn it that game will be broadcast on Fox…

I have no idea anymore on what football game would be appropriate to show such a trailer jfhfnfjfnv

I was thinking Michigan v Ohio State, but then realized it wasn’t CBS, so I figured "oh I know, The Iron Bowl", but it’ll be broadcast most likely on ABC as the Southeastern Conference broadcasting rights switched over. Hmm…

[amber pasture]

https://fixupx.com/itstoony24/status/1781386244351840284?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[frozen panther]

https://x.com/cryptic4kqual/status/1781691058448998474?s=46&t=hz_7Hq6aWEVvkckv9DT6eQ

Cryptic HD QUALITY (@Cryptic4KQual) on X

AMA..I'll try to answer what i can at a later time. Keep it clean🙂no shady stuff.

Twitter · Apr 20, 2024, 2:27 PM

sonic 3 teaser trailer when

[woven gazelle]

TrailerTrack had already suggested that it could be shown in theaters when IF is released then (May 17th)

[formal hazel]

After Knuckles show honestly

[amber pasture]

https://fixupx.com/snazzysonic/status/1781748540693500287?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[lean star]

I like the way he acts in these videos so much.

[woven gazelle]

https://fxtwitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1781827868562989550?s=61&t=zqpjWcXO8PrjpiFxT1WbhA

[amber pasture]

Let him be Movie Sonic forever

[old cloud]

Even if it means a new sonic animated series that set in the movie universe.

[small pulsar]

For that version of sonic ya

Any other movie interpretation of sonic

No

[keen lagoon]

Let’s see how long it’s gonna take for thatsoni to pop up at the mention of Ben Schwartz existence.

[amber pasture]

Rip the 5 who wanted Robert

[amber pasture]

https://youtu.be/1lg2YE2qZaA?si=j4xuMmB934lHCXP1

[old cloud]

Take this with a grain of salt. https://twitter.com/S0nicmovie3news/status/1782074374670983180

Sonicmovie3news (@S0nicmovie3news) on X

Apparently @cartoonupdates has a sonic 3 trailer. #sonicmovie3 #sonic3 #SonicTheHedeghog #ShadowTheHedgehog #Sonicadventure2 #knuckles #TailsTheFox #shadowthehedgog #sonicmovie3 #sonicmovie #sonicmovie2 #shadow #SonicTheHedeghog #sonadow #knuckles #sonicnews

Twitter · Apr 21, 2024, 3:50 PM

[junior jay]

I get that this person wants the tweet to be under every hashtag imaginable, but this is ridiculous

[old cloud]

Yeah, Which is why I think its a little sus

Also why would some user named Cartoonupdates have the trailer?

looked at CartoonUpdates twitter, and I don't see any mention about a trailer

There only been two tweets

[frozen panther]

Could have dmd him

His DMs are open

[old cloud]

typically a user like TrailerTrack is usually more reliable when it comes to when we can expect a trailer

there are other places where we can expect info about a trailer, like that alberta ratings site

[amber pasture]

This account leaked the storyboards

[old cloud]

True

[vast skiff]

Anyways, how the hell does someone get info from this person

[amber pasture]

Huh

Ok

Nevermind then

[vast skiff]

Is it fake

Fuck sake lmfao

[amber pasture]

Let’s see what happens lmao

[old cloud]

a twitter user was the source, But looks like this user is blocked here

the user known as sonicas0

@cartoonupdates
. I've heard he has the trailer and I'm sure```That user said.

So he's heard apparently

[knotty prism]

blocked here

Then

🗿

[old cloud]

I tried to post the link and it just didn't post

So it was a user posting fake information

[knotty prism]

If it's from a banned source then there's not much reason to believe it imo

[amber pasture]

Well we’ll see if the leak account says anything

[granite island]

fake

i think

i contacted cartoonupdates via gmail, am waiting for a response back

[old cloud]

Also cartoonupdates only have two tweets

[granite island]

that's cuz he deleted his previous leaks i think

[old cloud]

That account was created on April 2023, and only posted two tweets 8 hours ago

[granite island]

he was the same guy that leaked storyboards for Knuckles & Sonic 3 back in January

[old cloud]

That's right

[granite island]

ngl the Knuckles storyboards legit revived my interest in the show prior to the trailer coming out

[amber pasture]

Yeah I’m definitely not believing it

The account we can’t mention here has fake leaks everywhere on their account

[vast skiff]

Come ON

[uncut willow]

Man why can't we just

Wait for these things to come out

[vast skiff]

Wait

[old cloud]

If a trailer exist, Its plausible it will be out the week after Knuckles.

[vast skiff]

Honestly the fact someone really said wow this person has the trailer makes me think this whole sonic 3 rumors thing is a mistake

[uncut willow]

Yeah

[old cloud]

Ever since the storyboard leaks, there been people taking advantage of it posting fake leaks.

[vast skiff]

Lets count the rumor that came true shall we

• storyboards

Yeah thats it.

[old cloud]

We been since a number of fake leaks that were easy to spot.

they do a poor job at hiding that its fake, looks like a really crappy photoshop.

[amber pasture]

Aren’t we supposed to get something movie related next week anyways

[old cloud]

Possible right after Knuckles, I think the show ends on a setup for Sonic 3

this is speculation, But what if Agent Stone shows up in a G.U.N. uniform

I suspect he or somebody from GUN is going to appear somewhere at the end, The other day we heard from the showrunner, how they are setting up the universe, and GUN will be part of it

[brittle dew]

Yeah a whole-ass show

[old cloud]

in just 5 days

[brittle dew]

Cmon like, we’re not in a drought of sonic anymore, we’ve got it pouring outta our ears at this point

5 days and we’ve got a full show, we’ve got plenty to fill the time

[amber pasture]

Not that

[granite island]

https://twitter.com/wwolforam/status/1782095704501923909 also, one of the other accounts we shall not name is ded, allegedly

wolforam (@wwolforam) on X

rest in piece for the second time to the person who leaked movie amy

Twitter · Apr 21, 2024, 5:15 PM

[woven gazelle]

add "allegedly" to that tweet

also they obvs deactivated themselves lol

[granite island]

when your leak is so fake you deactivate yourself

[granite meadow]

And you would still post it regardless

[formal hazel]

^

[vast skiff]

Yea lmao

Stocking you shouldnt be the one mocking leakers when you are the first one to post them, just an advice

Can't be the one to be like "leakers am i right" after everything

[knotty prism]

Haha Sonic fans am I right

[amber pasture]

https://x.com/sonicworld551/status/1781898689574756585?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

Sonic World 55 (@SonicWorld551) on X

Just thought I make this meme now.

Sonic is taking their soul. They keep saying who the hell are you, Sonic says: Death

🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅😅

#SonicMovie3 #MufasaTheLionKing

Twitter · Apr 21, 2024, 4:12 AM

[formal hazel]

Bro I swear if this happens the 4th time

💀

[granite meadow]

I feel like some people get their hopes a bit too high ngl...

[granite island]

https://twitter.com/cartoonupdates/status/1782101126445236645 cartoonupdates doesn't have the trailer

CartoonUpdates (@cartoonupdates) on X

No, I don't have the Sonic 3 trailer, so you can stop asking about it

Twitter · Apr 21, 2024, 5:36 PM

and that person we shan't say by name is wrong again

[old cloud]

I knew the fake leaker who shouldn't be named was sus.

[knotty prism]

lol

[old cloud]

Ok so these scenes are similar, and I would guess we will see this, But with Shadow? https://twitter.com/therealcineor/status/1782114407650034159

Cineor (@therealcineor) on X

I think we all know what could be the most obvious thing to see in #sonicmovie3 👀⏳🖤❤️🖤🌉🦔

#SonicTheHedeghog #sonic3 #sonicmovie #SonicNews #ShadowTheHedgehog #knuckles #TailsTheFox #paramount

Twitter · Apr 21, 2024, 6:29 PM

[uncut willow]

It's gonna be over a bridge probably

[astral lily]

Long live the king, all hail shadow

[old cloud]

He has an interesting take on how to approach the Sonic Cinematic Universe through Sonic The Hedgehog 4, Seems quite ambitious if you ask me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Gnr_BQkL0

One of the ideas is a robotic version of Robotnik thanks to Metal Sonic, Some of the stuff taken from the comics.

And even having Silver showing up warning Sonic about a future event.

[fallen aurora]

Silver in movie 4

[shell wagon]

Well knuckles hadn't come out yet to make the velma assessment so lets wait and see right.

[old cloud]

I heard Velma was universally bad

Not a problem for Knuckles

[ivory hazel]

Velma was terrible

[shell wagon]

I mean people said the same thing about the last season and it did well

"universally" is twitter people

Normal people seem to enjoy the swearing scooby doo show with the dog because they aren't invested as much

They remember scooby and think its funny

Its the same thing with the live action disney flicks. I think most of them are bad, but general audiences see them joints in droves

don't point to the stands underestimating the power of "Normal guy thinks its neat "

[uncut willow]

Dunno how to gauge that properly since they said that the show was the "most watched original animated show on HBO Max" or whatever and it was really the only original animated show on the platform

[old cloud]

Given how the current CEO gutted many animated shows on Max, and that one survived.

[amber pasture]

BEN WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT https://fixupx.com/discussingfilm/status/1782171883762225643?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[granite meadow]

Bait used to be believable fang

[amber pasture]

Nah he spoiled the movie for me

This sucks man

[granite meadow]

Womp womp

[amber pasture]

https://x.com/mi_ch_ito/status/1781876448371896670?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

Mi_ch_ito ? (@mi_ch_ito) on X

bouquet of lavender for both 🪻🪻🪻
#keanureeves #shadow #sonic
#ShadowTheHedgehog #SonicMovie3

Twitter · Apr 21, 2024, 2:43 AM

[vast skiff]

Cute

[old cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgb06ELJhw4

[vast skiff]

Basically i bet Jeff said that this would have a focus on the Robotnik family

To Jim

And he found it interesting

[amber pasture]

https://youtu.be/QRFMoJmweKs?si=nUcw_AXwmjlaJa1r

[amber pasture]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/C598d4NMg32/?igsh=MWE2eHNnenZ6d3AxOA==

[restive fractal]

Keanu the Hedgehog
Shadow Reeves

[exotic wharf]

https://fxtwitter.com/GamesRadar/status/1782612928912363855

https://www.gamesradar.com/sonic-3-tease-sonic-adventure-2-inspiration/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_content=gamesradar

[fallen aurora]

he's right

I already saw it

[exotic wharf]

the knuckles damage control

[untold summit]

you don't say

[wraith cedar]

It ain't damage control

The writing been on the wall since they announced the cast of Knuckles

[formal hazel]

^

[wraith cedar]

The core Sonic Team

Iizuka and co.

[shut kayak]

i think he means like

core team that works on sonic

movies

at paramount

not the sonic team of sega

bc the core sonic team of sega MADE sa2, they didnt grow up with it lmao

[wraith cedar]

[formal hazel]

So it probably won't be just SA2 in terms of callbacks?

[vast skiff]

They said Sonic Team

I dont think they are talking about the movie team

Sonic Team is Sonic Team

Why would they say it like that thats so stupid and confusing lmao

[shut kayak]

i think its moreso like

"the sonic team"

and the core of that

so

"the core sonic team"

as in, the team that does sonic

[vast skiff]

Weird

[wraith cedar]

But why the uppercasing

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[shut kayak]

and again it literally doesnt make sense otherwise

[wraith cedar]

Iizuka and co. will rise again!