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#Sonic the Hedgehog 3
wraith cedar
formal hazel
💀
vast skiff
Shes having fun im glad
vast skiff
Glad shes not horrified lmfao
old cloud
wraith cedar
https://fxtwitter.com/CoralReefee/status/1756013930734866582?t=-q6JtXz1Dc-KhFX_3ktC7w&s=19 caught this right away and it really threw me off
wraith cedar
Tyson already explained why it looks like this
Where did he do that?
Looked for an hour can't find anything
vast skiff
He said to make it like more realistic like the muscle on your faces eith your eyebrows are scrunchdd
wraith cedar
Where
I feel like we're slowly going full circle with this design lol
If they do this for movie 3 with Sonic or Shadow it will straight up be unwatchable for me lol
Looks atrocious
formal hazel
Yeah I have to be real, I thought they are perfectly fine
granite island
He said to make it like more realistic like the muscle on your faces eith your e...
i get it, realism and all, and i don't hate the 2/Knuckles model, i just like the first movie's model better
imo the 2 model was at it's best in Sonic Drone Home, it was edited a bit, but in very good ways, on par with the first movie's model for best Movie Sonic model
vast skiff
Yea like... they fucked up there. A really good design got messed up like this
Idk why they are trying to make him more realistic like a plushie
At least knuckles looks perfect
granite island
One of the better things about Sonic's model in Knuckles imo is the coloring, he looks WAY more vibrant in Knuckles than he does in 2
vast skiff
granite island
and yeah, i agree, Knuckles' model is peak
vast skiff
It is kinda cool how sonic has been visibly aging
We never got such a thing
His fur shaped is less round, his chest is bigger, his legs are longer
Its cool
But that goddamn wrinkled brow lol
granite island
yeah, doubt they'll do this, but i hope they get rid of that for 3
vast skiff
I dont understand why Sonic needs it but knuckles doesnt
granite island
also, just cuz i liked 1's model doesn't mean it's good everywhere, the superbowl ad for 1 for example looks pretty bad
granite island
here's another pic of the same ad, still looks bad
although, there is one thing i can agree on for Movie 1, Movie 2 and the Knuckles show model
i'd take all of them over this
granite island
yeah, mainly due to how dumb he looks imo
i think this design was at it's best with the posters released alongside the trailer, looked a bit better, but not by much
granite island
no clue
the one thing i like about the old design posters is that the weird human lips aren't there, and i feel like that just makes the whole design much better outside of when he opens his mouth
amber pasture
God he looks like a chimp
granite island
just edited a pic of the original design to make him a bit better using my crappy paint.net skills, thoughts?
vast skiff
Eh, the flat edit doesnt work with the realistc style
amber pasture
I can only imagine what Ugly Tails would’ve looked like 
uncut willow
Imagine how Shadow would've looked if the original design stuck😭
vast skiff
I cant even think of such thing
Without the design change im sure shadow wouldnt be a thing at all
amber pasture
The only thing that would exist would be Ugly Tails
willow iron
https://fxtwitter.com/CoralReefee/status/1756013930734866582?t=-q6JtXz1Dc-KhFX_3...
Yeah each time he keeps looking better and worse at the same time
amber pasture
old cloud
What would be a cool way to introduce Shadow in the movie, Like what kind of entrance you wanna see him do?
vast skiff
Rob the bank at night
woven gazelle
Or go the SA2 route and steal an emerald from a museum
untold summit
realistically the novie's probably gonna open with the cryofreeze thing opening up before flashing the logo and then cutting to sonic doing shit in san fransisco or something
old cloud
There are these shots I see a lot in movies, Where you see a foot stepping out of a vehicle, Be it a car or motorcycle, so imagine its a shot of the bottom of a motorcycle, and you see Shadow's shoes stepping out from it.
And then you hear Bad to the bone playing in the background
pure mason
This along with the claim that there were supposed to be one Sonic movie a year always get me.
formal hazel
What would be a cool way to introduce Shadow in the movie, Like what kind of ent...
Holding the green chaos emerald
er wait
nvm ignore that LOL
shell wagon
In reality it shows how nothing Paramount+ is as a platform
Paramount + trailer views is a nothing metric for sure
but i will say this
I think recent events have shown sega a multimillion ( billion?) dollar entity failed to do actual market research for 10 years and got convinced the main selling point of the brand didn't need to be there and lost so much money they for a time, tooka way sonic's budget is...wild and should be studied
old cloud
In reality it shows how nothing Paramount+ is as a platform
Which means there's potential for maybe something like a Chaotix series in the future, Imagine a show where Team Chaotix run a detective agency solving cases.
They will get involved in some weird cases, and stumble onto some conspiracy.
vast skiff
Wow did we really need this lol
Like yea paramount plus is a failure but the trailer trended for a lot
I had ZERO expectations for it
I thought it wouldnt even reach 500k views in a day
old cloud
Paramount+ doesn't really have anything other then Star Trek for people to be invested on the service, So they are releasing some things to try to get people to join the service, Knuckles being one of them.
formal hazel
The fact that Sonic alone pretty much severely helped Paramount shows
Sonic no doubt is going to be their main priority in terms of profit in the future
old cloud
Paramount needed an IP that will put lots of asses in seats, And Sonic is the one, because its an IP that appeals to all ages.
formal hazel
Pretty much
granite island
my prediction is seeming to be correct, Paramount + subscriptions are gonna SKYROCKET cuz of Knuckles
formal hazel
What helps with Sonic is how accessible it is towards audience
Like not just kids but also adults
Due to how well balance the tone is towards this series
shell wagon
Sonic no doubt is going to be their main priority in terms of profit in the futu...
thats gonna be weird
formal hazel
Especially with chars like Shadow
formal hazel
mmhmm
old cloud
there's the Shadow spinoff they announce, and we don't know if that's a movie or TV show
shell wagon
that sonic money must be hittin
formal hazel
I will say it's very likely they'll do it as a tv show
I don't think they'll do back to back movie just because one char getting the spotlight
old cloud
As long as the keep the creators involved, and I mean Jeff Fowler and Patrick Casey
old cloud
Give those guys more money, and they will keep pumping out Sonic content
brittle dew
Like yea paramount plus is a failure but the trailer trended for a lot
in general streaming is absolutely in its dying throes rn lol
brittle dew
look at disney, converting multiple seasons of shows into movies at the mo
the money is simply not there and the debt is piling up
formal hazel
I feel like for this one around it's fair why Paramount has to do th is
They are very desperate
old cloud
Disney is struggling because they are pumping out too much stuff, and the quality of them is suffering.
dont put out Sonic content every year, Give it like 2 or 3 years, so that things can be fleshed out and the writing is good
brittle dew
Disney is struggling because they are pumping out too much stuff, and the qualit...
its not even that, it's the whole business model of loss-leading
arctic shadow
Yes Disney properties have a lot of new stuff that's also high budget, but they also cancel plenty of stuff, it's just that in particular, on their platform, only Marvel and SW and now Percy Jackson have done well as original content
in this case I'd rather keep not much content at the same time
I don't think they did too much atm with Knuckles spinoff and Sonic 3
vast skiff
Its just cool that Knuckles got this much traction
brittle dew
every company under the sun pumped billions into streaming, with the hope of making temporary losses at first to eventually hit it big over time and rake in ridiculous sums
except the "eventually" has simply never come
they spent and spent for a situation that's never going to be real
vast skiff
Sonics name is not even there
formal hazel
Really shows how insanely huge the char cast can be in terms of popularity
Sonic is like one of the few game series that excel this so well that isn't just the main protagonist outside of
old cloud
At least they aren't Warner Bros.
brittle dew
its not even about the quality at this point, they're spending so much on big projects by now that they have little to no chance of ever breaking even, let alone pulling in a profit
arctic shadow
Sonics name is not even there
True
brittle dew
and thus, the industry is completely fucked lol
arctic shadow
I feel like the movies were really popular and well made, people are hooked on the movie universe
old cloud
that's because of good writing and direction, get people who really understands the characters.
old cloud
Often times they hire people solely because of name recognition, and not because of the quality of the writing.
arctic shadow
genuinely funny
old cloud
and throw in some pop culture references here and there, Which Knuckles will surely have.
arctic shadow
Often times they hire people solely because of name recognition, and not because...
I thought writers weren't that big in general, like, they have their own cv with their works, but imo movies get fucked up when they hire big name director who also writes the script with its own vision, rather than focusing on base material, so you get somebody who's not a professional writer or someone who knows source material
For example here Miller and Fowler had worked on some Sonic games at least
old cloud
I thought writers weren't that big in general, like, they have their own cv with...
There are some well known writers out there, Its just they sometimes pick them because they liked the movies they wrote.
Its better getting a writer who has a deep understanding of the IP, and not somebody who doesn't, because some of those writers have to do research before they write something for the IP
Having Jeff Fowler directing was the best thing to happen for video game movies as a whole, Somebody who actually worked on a video game directing a video game movie.
arctic shadow
at the very least they should pick - in general - people who wrote movies or shows of the same genre as their upcoming movie
old cloud
For Jeff Fowler, I believe Sonic Movie 3 could be his magnum opus, Because of his experience working on Shadow The Hedgehog, He's probably gonna include stuff that the fans will know and love as a nod here and there.
arctic shadow
Having Jeff Fowler directing was the best thing to happen for video game movies ...
I admit I was hesitant on Fowler at first because I thought he was not experienced enough in directing movies, and yeah he is the best thing to happen to Sonic lol
I think he was Miller's pupil or something
woven gazelle
also, just cuz i liked 1's model doesn't mean it's good everywhere, the superbow...
Twitter
old cloud
I admit I was hesitant on Fowler at first because I thought he was not experienc...
Well he did directed his first short animated film, which was enough to prove that he was capable.
brittle dew
Its better getting a writer who has a deep understanding of the IP,
what if I wanted to watch an actual movie instead of jingling keys of things I recognise
fans are brilliant at writing things for fans, sure! but I want to show these things to normal people too
willow iron
[Pardon the interruption](https://x.com/tyson_hesse/status/1756401390350381418?s...
And ig better animation. Why did he add those weird bumps on Sonic’s head tho
old cloud
Every movie will have improved CGI, because every year there's always new hardware that's more powerful at rendering.
willow iron
I still think drone home is the best one out of the three just because of the look and animations
brittle dew
it's a tale as old as time, injokes simply do not work outside their intended audience as they need explaining - be it a small audience (a group of mates) or a big one (the sonic fandom)
old cloud
I wouldn't be surprise if there's a new animated short for the Sonic Movie 3 blu-ray release, and it featuring Shadow.
formal hazel
It comes down over making a right balance over the audience that is not into the series and are part of the series
Sonic Movie gotten the right amount of balance over that
Very few video game adaptations do this
brittle dew
yeah, I genuinely think the sonic movies have gotten it right on the money - both in terms of making sure they're putting the attention into fleshing out arcs but also to slowly, gradually introduce stuff we take in our stride but would be incomprehensible to normal people
there's a clear stepping stone approach of gradually adding more and more game bits in (and actually using them in interesting ways instead of them just, being there) as they go which just, works
formal hazel
It's why I can see Sonic 3 Movie having huge amount of praise towards the people that barely have any experience over the series due to having a lot of moments the movie audience may actually like
brittle dew
I keep seeing people go "they shouldve made a CG full marza film!!!" but like, if they really offloaded like 30 years of canon we know into a single film nobody normal would understand a goddamn word of it lol
imagine having to explain angel island/knux guarding the master emerald in like a couple seconds of setup without feeling like you're dealing out homework
formal hazel
Pretty much
Helps that the movies are being it's own thing too
It gives the writers a much more natural direction
vast skiff
They just did really well with this franchise
formal hazel
Agreed
Sonic 3 Movie no doubt is going to be the biggest impact for both SEGA and Paramount
formal hazel
And it works perfectly
Helps that it has 0 connection over the game series too
Another thing that also help is that due to being is own thing, they can easily use lesser known chars too
Which basically Pacahamac
It causes them to be a lot more creative
willow iron
Its its own thing
And I fucking love it
Now all we need is for them to use the music from the games
old cloud
My tweet about Pachacamac has exploded all over twitter.
willow iron
I can’t wait for movie tikal if it happens
formal hazel
Yeah I can't see them ignore Tikal or Chaos 0 at all
old cloud
I dont know, Maybe she'll show up, But I don't know how if the theory is true.
uncut willow
https://fxtwitter.com/tyson_hesse/status/1756401390350381418
Wow
brittle dew
wonder if 3's gonna stick with the same models or update
if it ain't broke an all that
amber pasture
Apparently there was Sonic Movie lost media
Then it was found 4 hours ago
Twitter
vast skiff
wonder if 3's gonna stick with the same models or update
Honestly id like for a change showing him aging
Through each movie
Making looking more like how he does in sa2
Longer spikes
restive fractal
I like that he’s becoming more realistic
uncut willow
Probably asked by the studio idk
keen lagoon
https://x.com/tyson_hesse/status/1756422850393571713?s=20
This was also established by that Sonic Prime Animator a while back to.
But then a mass assortment of fans were just like "Nuh Uh."
old cloud
That's Knuckles journey in this series, its about self discovery.
By the end of this series, He won't be too inpatient on looking for something to fight all the time, Gotta learn to relax.
Drinking a whole pot of coffee is enough to jack him up, and wanting to fight some more, Because that caffeine does numbers on you when you drink a lot.
willow iron
https://fxtwitter.com/Justin61894350/status/1756472912989536721
I wish I can see this interesting theory if I had a Twitter account (((:
old cloud
Twitter
old cloud
I replied to that tweet with this. https://twitter.com/TigerClaw305/status/1756488814866944232
Twitter
granite island
just thought up of an idea for how they could reveal the people voicing the new Sonic characters in Sonic 3, so hear me out, imma use Amy as an example, let's say, her url is AR . com, the AR being short for Amy Rose, it starts off being nothing, but overtime, letters start appearing until they form the name of the actress playing her
here's a proof of concept of the idea i made up in MS Paint
old cloud
If Amy is in the movie, Hopefully its somebody who post it on twitter like Idris Elba did, With an image of the Piko Piko Hammer.
Something like this.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/5/51/AmysHammer.png/revision/latest?cb=20220604214110
and the tweet would say something like, Hamming it up.
ivory hazel
and the tweet would say something like, Hamming it up.
Nah
The phrase should be
"Have no fear, Amy rose is here"
lean star
I learned only recently "Amy Rose" made a cameo in the second movie as a human landlord
ivory hazel
I learned only recently "Amy Rose" made a cameo in the second movie as a human l...
First movie
it was when Maddie and Tom were checking those houses in San Francisco
lean star
I forgot the exact events, but yea
granite island
just thought of a neato way that Amy could be introduced in the movieverse if she isn't in 3, hear me out, Sitcom series starring her, the idea is that it involves around Amy living in San Francisco in an apartment and causing a lot of antics with her rooomates (think Always Sunny In Philadelphia with a silly pink hedgehog as the lead) , i can also see other characters in the movies being guest stars in some episodes in this potential series
old cloud
They have to come up with a reason why she shows up.
granite island
also, i can imagine that it takes place after Sonic 1 but before Sonic 2, yes, that would mean she was on earth the entire time, and yes, nobody would give a shit that there's a pink hedgehog living in an apartment in San Fran
old cloud
The prequel comic explained why Tails was searching for Sonic, So maybe they'll do another comic for this one
arctic shadow
That said assuming Rouge is in the movie she would be undercover working for Eggman and we would not see much interaction, but in a future thing maybe
arctic shadow
I find topaz one of the better human characters in X
It works, if she plays a serious agent like Topaz, because the Olive Garden commander is goofy
They need some balance on GUN
old cloud
https://twitter.com/HollywoodHandle/status/1757043987368583541?t=QpT2Ljg70ao8Dz7...
Maybe she's a G.U.N. agent
vast skiff
Man if they bring in that Topaz and Rouge dynamic in this movie... that would be so awesome
old cloud
Its funny how people automatically assume when an actor is cast in a movie, They are like, They are voicing this or that character, Only to be disappointed when that isn't the case.
shell wagon
I feel like if rouge isnt in this knuckles show's stinger
It is time to give up
old cloud
They have to find ways for the other characters to show up organically, and not just force them in there.
For Pachacamac to show up in the Knuckles shows, There's a reason why he's in the bowling alley.
brittle dew
I feel like if rouge isnt in this knuckles show's stinger
It is time to give up
see, I was thinking it won't happen cos it's a telly show and it'd surely be lower budget
and I mean, it prolly is slightly lower budget
formal hazel
Yeah I have to be fully real we have to know Rouge immediately by then in the show and not shown yet
brittle dew
but def not to the degree I was thinking god damn they poured money into this huh
old cloud
For Rouge, Her whole thing is that she's a thief, So they need to come up with a reason why she would be here.
brittle dew
going full loss-leading strategy for a dying service sure is a bold move but hey, a good show to pirate, cannae complain I guess
old cloud
Lately Rouge's personality is like, She has the habit of stealing anything without any reason.
Why does Rouge steal? What's her reasoning behind it, Is she not happy unless she gets everything she wants, And if she does, Why does she continue being the thief.
brittle dew
wiki padding backstory type beat
if it doesn't serve the story at hand, nowt need to put it in
old cloud
a movie version of Rouge is going to be more fleshed out then the games.
The games always follow these tropes.
When the movie versions of said characters actually have a chance to grow
brittle dew
a movie version of Rouge is going to be more fleshed out then the games.
if she's anything like Prime's design there may very well be less flesh waheyyyyyyyyyy
willow iron
I feel like rouge is gone
I haven’t seen or heard any hints or leaks of her appearing
old cloud
Rouge is basically the Catwoman of the Sonic universe.
shell wagon
I have a point to the stands ass prediction
brittle dew
I do hope at least rouge and/or amy is in, cos like
old cloud
Or Chaotix because of the Knuckles connection.
brittle dew
IDW and the games have been working towards a better gender split, it'd be a shame for the movies to go "whoops all blokes" again
(mostly IDW)
formal hazel
Blaze I feel like people are expecting her too much
vast skiff
Meh, cant say im a fan about this whoke gender split thing
Like if you gotta have amy
Make her into amy
shell wagon
IDW and the games have been working towards a better gender split, it'd be a sha...
Those movies have no regard for whats happening in them comics, same with the games unfortunately
vast skiff
Dont just force her on a role that doesnt fit her
formal hazel
Agreed
vast skiff
Just because she is a girl and we need more girls
Same to rouge
Rouge is PERFECT for a sa2 adaptation
formal hazel
Rouge at least work since she is a literal thief. It just depends on where
vast skiff
Amy is take it or leave it
brittle dew
Those movies have no regard for whats happening in them comics, same with the ga...
oh I gathered that lol, not expecting tangle/whisper to show up in these things - I just mean in general, get some lasses on that there screen
brittle dew
the chaotix are absolutely not happening, you gotta have all three in if you're doing anything with em and I don't think their budget stretches that far
formal hazel
Yeah Chaotix lost their chance immediately honestly
Now their chances are very slim
brittle dew
only likely if they did a fully animated flick, and even then they really are just
sorta okay
formal hazel
Their only hope is appearing in Knuckles series due to Knuckles Chaotix
brittle dew
nobody going full hype mode at seeing them on the screen compared to like, shadow lol
shell wagon
Blaze I feel like people are expecting her too much
Not at all. Im not looking at a fandom lense, she is as a thing. Litterally one of the marketable characters in the whole series on paper. But has been resigned to being the side kick to a litteral failed marketing push due to sonic teams internal biases for male characters ( to put it nicely)
I can see some one going "there's a wonder woman cat that shoots fucking fire that they werent using " and then opting to do it themselves
formal hazel
Even so it also comes down to the movie
Since the movie goes in a complete different direction compared to the game series
brittle dew
Their only hope is appearing in Knuckles series due to Knuckles Chaotix
brave to assume literally anyone outside the fanbase (including sega themselves) gives a single toss about Knuckles Chaotix lmao
old cloud
the chaotix are absolutely not happening, you gotta have all three in if you're ...
Unless they do another spinoff series starring the Chaotix, and it being like a detective show.
formal hazel
brave to assume literally anyone outside the fanbase (including sega themselves)...
pretty much
vast skiff
I mean, Blaze should be The Girl to use the most in sonic
brittle dew
game on a MD add-on that literally bombed, remember
brittle dew
game on a MD add-on that literally bombed, remember
one that hasn't been re-released a single time since, remember
ST actively does not want to remember chaotix as a game outside of nods and that ain't changing any time soon
(mostly as it is a Bad game)
formal hazel
Yeah it is legit a bad game lmao
shell wagon
oh I gathered that lol, not expecting tangle/whisper to show up in these things ...
I concur. Most of those lasses seem to be human though unfortunately. I wont say i think sonic movie 3 being a shadow joint is a mistake i love the character. However a story so focused around one guy dealing with his trauma and the context around it. Might have writers use the not him tine for human levity. Celebrities having goofy moments. That seems to be how they approach this. I would prefer animal folks...but it is what it is i guess
formal hazel
I am at least fine with it considering that when it comes to sonic char wise Shadow has the most focused towards the humans
But at the same time I do hope after Sonic 3 Movie we are more focused over the sonic chars
shell wagon
Fair enough i suppose
Would be funny if the films is how we get concrete gun lore
formal hazel
yeah lmao
ivory hazel
But instead its amy
I mean, Amy has been around more time than Blaze hence she could have some priority over her.
Not that I exactly like it but I cannot act like it is unreasonable that the first girl the Sonic series officially has is used more than Blaze
vast skiff
I know but it annoys me when they make amy a character that she isnt all because she is the first girl
ivory hazel
What do you mean?
old cloud
Are you concern that they might turn Amy into the girl boss stereotype?
vast skiff
Y e s
Veeeeeeery much so
I am loving the movie series so far
But i dont trust hollywood with amy rose
ivory hazel
For now we can only wait and see what happens
Right now we are only working with (as of now) as hypothetical
https://youtu.be/WF-u--e4ZDE?si=8A-a7rAKmBJdQyfX
1:57 I think part of this answer of the Bumblekast may help with this, Henry
lean star
I do hope at least rouge and/or amy is in, cos like
I feel like it would be wrong to have one and not the other
ivory hazel
Rouge probably
She is more integral to sa2 than Amy
and the humanity thing to redeem Shadow (if it is done) could come from her
as someone who can balance between being a hero and someone following her own interests, it would be good from her to say something about people just being complex
and follow certain paths based on trivial desires, like she does, but they're all good internally
lean star
Ultimately it would make sense for Rogue given the role she could fill, but yea
I would like both if possible
ivory hazel
Both would be ideal, but tbh it is hard to say
We didn't have any real leaks regarding Sonic 3's sets or Knuckles' sets compared to Sonic 2
lean star
The thing is if they had both they would have to introduce 3 new mobians in a single movie
ivory hazel
It could be easily done if they do a day in the life segment for these characters
what do I mean with this?
A day in the life is a narrative element used in media where you show a character do something based on their usual routine, normally used to introduce them or the general conflict as a whole
In Rouge's case, it could be as simple as her being in a mission to find some data of project Shadow
While Amy, being her bubbly self, tries to find tracks of Sonic & Co but accidentally leading her to Shadow
In Sonic Movie 1, the entire Green Hill (zone, and somewhat town) segment is a day in the life of Sonic before conflict goes down
Sonic Movie 2 kinda does this with Tails and how he is tracking Sonic at the beginning of the movie
showing himself, using gadgets an trying to find the blue demon without being spotted by humans. We get to know him by these simple acts:
- He has to find Sonic
- He is intelligent
- He prefers to keep himself hidden or in a low profile compared to Sonic who desired to be out there but couldn't in the first movie.
shell wagon
I just realized the long game of puncamac being in knuckles show is making shadikal real.
ivory hazel
https://twitter.com/HollywoodHandle/status/1757043987368583541?t=QpT2Ljg70ao8Dz7...
I would like her to be just like Jessica Jones xd
Just a very fuck off type of character.
But let's see what they cook with this captain
Could it be a G.U.N. agent?
keen lagoon
I think when it comes to the VA's, they're gonna get some celeberity with a sembliance with some experience with voice acting.
Such as Ben Schwartz, Idris Elba, and even Christopher Lloyd.
They've all done voice acting projects, and keeps a consistency.
restive fractal
still can’t believe I sent the first message other than the OP message
Usually I’m late af
keen lagoon
Oh damn, speaking of christopher lloyd, never knew he voiced the woodman in over the garden wall.
neat.
Also, I think Amy or Rouge has gotta be there.
we're just long overdue for a female addition to this sausage party
(Pat Casey's words, not mine I must add.)
amber pasture
Ok I’m done for the…nvm mission street
SA2
willow iron
OH GOD DAMN IT WRONG CHANNEL AGAIN
lean star
I don't think that's meant to be real
granite island
the Knuckles render could pass off as an official render
formal hazel
it was photoshopped, really good photoshop though
I am not trying to post a leak?
I am only posting it as a what if
shell wagon
Im looking at the toys being released later
I think mire people need to come to grips with idea barring credit scenes shadow might be the only new anthro animal.
If the film was about any other character, i would say lets wait. But its shadow and to hide amy or rouge in mystery and not shadow would be a baffeling choice. Theres not really a pop there
But i could be wrong
old cloud
You know, They usually have this Toy Fair thing, Where they announce the new toys coming out this year, and I bet they will have some Sonic Movie 3 toys, Maybe a first look at Movie Shadow in toy form.
shell wagon
You know, They usually have this Toy Fair thing, Where they announce the new toy...
Oooh
Hopefully this is true
Also ow my wallet
old cloud
The Toy Fair is from March 1st to 4th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgDGUL7r1Do
granite island
i swear to god if Movie Amy gets revealed via this
old cloud
That's the thing, Sometimes leaks of designs of movie characters came from places like the Toy Fair, But keep in mind the toy designs don't reflect the actual movie designs due to the lack of certain details.
Another things we can expect, Would be a set that would depict a certain parts of a movie
But for Sonic, I doubt it, Because as far toys are concern, You won't see the level of toys Sonic would have when you compare to something like TMNT, Which would have tons of different types of them.
Found a video from last year's toy fair, Nothing movie related. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YKFSNLiFxU
You know what would be cool, If released a toy of Movie Shadow on a motorcycle.
here's another video from last year. https://www.tiktok.com/@shacknews/video/7285085636267199790
With Toy Fair happening this year, I'm sure there will be some Sonic toys to be shown, Maybe from the movie.
old cloud
With CinemaCon happening in April with Paramount being there, What is the likelihood that they will release the first trailer for Sonic 3? Sometimes the studios would release a trailer for an upcoming movie, and I mean sometimes, Because very often they show exclusive footage for those who attended, and this footage isn't posted online, But sometimes they release a trailer for the public.
The movie comes out in December, So in what month do you expect the first trailer?
keen lagoon
June or July.
old cloud
CinemaCon would be a good place to announce the casting, and in particular Shadow
keen lagoon
somewhere in the middle of the year.
Gives a lil wiggle room for some finished VFX for trailer shots, and I think filming is gonna be wrapped up soon anyway
old cloud
Because in these events, They would have the stars of the movie on stage.
They would be on the stage and say something like, Such and such will be the voice of Shadow, And news about that will be all over social media.
amber pasture
Twitter
ivory hazel
old cloud
somber turret
:((
old cloud
I love hearing stories like this, When the people working on a movie are having fun making it
Lately we hear stories about how some actors or directors are difficult to work with when making certain movies, And then you hear stuff like this, Even with James Gunn, On how the people making these type of movies get along so well, and having a good time working on them.
arctic shadow
Safe to say Tika already filmed her scenes
old cloud
Yeah, More then likely.
Either that or getting ready to shoot her scenes. https://fxtwitter.com/Sonic1News/status/1758150882645225765
granite island
Either that or getting ready to shoot her scenes. https://fxtwitter.com/Sonic1Ne...
if imma guess, based off her wording, she likely finished recording her scenes
old cloud
I really hope the movie's runtime is around 2 hours, Because a story like this needs a decent runtime, Maybe around the same runtime of the 2nd movie.
amber pasture
if imma guess, based off her wording, she likely finished recording her scenes
Agreed
shut kayak
Twitter
granite island
https://twitter.com/_CallMeDante/status/1758465407357190552
ngl i feel as if it was kinda obvious, but it's nice to see proper confirmation of this
vast skiff
https://twitter.com/_CallMeDante/status/1758465407357190552
This girl is so silly lmao
restive fractal
https://twitter.com/_CallMeDante/status/1758465407357190552
Prepare to get shot then
amber pasture
https://twitter.com/_CallMeDante/status/1758465407357190552
LETS GO
vernal fable
tender moth
https://twitter.com/_CallMeDante/status/1758465407357190552
Nice
Yk I wonder if they will reveal Shadow's va at the end of the knuckles show with a post credits teaser
obsidian spade
https://twitter.com/_CallMeDante/status/1758465407357190552
IT STARTS
MOVIE 3 COMIN 2025 LETS GOOOOO
ivory hazel
https://twitter.com/_CallMeDante/status/1758465407357190552
This is one funny way of revealing that
old cloud
Twitter
digital lagoon
https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-kid-child-gif-20643937
Us: ..and?
formal hazel
Me: 
old cloud
Non Sonic fans who are parents after they see that moment.
While Sonic fans are like
vast skiff
https://tenor.com/view/robxrtprint-gif-20062847
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING EXCITED IN TJIS GIF WHATS
DID THEY ALL WIN A 1 MILLION DOLLARS
untold summit
they saw maria die
keen lagoon
It's in that same ball park where people were hyped as hell to see William Afton die in the fnaf movie.
amber pasture
https://fxtwitter.com/TigheSammy/status/1758570506121539897
ivory hazel
I'm gonna miss her
amber pasture
Twitter
ivory hazel
😭
restive fractal
Bruuuh https://x.com/aemzso/status/1758562082230870052?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-Xv...
She will be soon
Imagine getting gunned down can’t relate
amber pasture
Bruh 😭😭
restive fractal
Finding out who cast as Maria releases my dark humor in ways nobody in this server will understand💀
amber pasture
My friend hates me for being excited for the Maria scene 😂
ivory hazel
More than half the fandom started jokes like that ever since 😭
On one way or another
Even the actress of that lmao
this comes back lmao
amber pasture
More than half the fandom started jokes like that ever since 😭
He’s upset with the fandom. But mostly me
But I’m not wrong
vast skiff
Honestly
amber pasture
Cause like parents who don’t know Shadow’s backstory don’t know what they’re taking there kids into lol
vast skiff
Jokes aside its not even gonna happen
You guys assume maria will get so shot
Maybe she wont lmfao
amber pasture
Jokes aside its not even gonna happen
Oh no it won’t. We all know that
vast skiff
At the very least off screen
amber pasture
At most it’ll probably do something similar to the game but won’t show the actual gun and such
untold summit
lead poisoning
amber pasture
Too bad GUN got her
ivory hazel
You guys assume maria will get so shot
I don't expect them to pull that, but again, for me, Maria's death is not significant for that
vast skiff
Or maybe they bonk her with a bat
amber pasture
Maybe death by falling anvil
Honestly they’ll probably just have her die peacefully ya know?
vast skiff
Thats how i think it wi go anyways
amber pasture
Oh you know what they could do
Something like Uncle Ben’s death in the first Spider-Man
vast skiff
Its so easy for her to just die of hr illness and negligence from the military
amber pasture
Darn Space aids
ivory hazel
Or maybe they bonk her with a bat
I mean tbf, sa2 doesn't show how she dies specifically
it just gives the idea that she did a last effort to help Shadow to escape of the ARK
vast skiff
We hear a gunshot in the og version but thats it
The hd version even removed the sound
old cloud
People are overhyping this way too much, If anything, They will do a version where she succumbed to the illness as she releases Shadow.
ivory hazel
Mhm, but again it's not important per se. Her death is significant cause Shadow is the cause of it in a sense, not the gun. It was never about what killed her but rather why she died.
amber pasture
Tiger that’s the joke. Overhyping the scene is the joke lol
vast skiff
Mhm, but again it's not important per se. Her death is significant cause Shadow ...
Yep
amber pasture
Like I said parents who don’t know Shadow’s backstory don’t know what they’re taking there kids into. So Sonic fans are overhyping the death
ivory hazel
I wouldn't mind if they say Maria died of illness if G.U.N. invades when Shadow was going to heal her
not only causing her death but not allowing Shadow to save her friend
old cloud
I think she will be terminally ill
ivory hazel
I think she will be terminally ill
I mean, that's why she is in the ARK in sa2
the very reason Shadow was created is to heal illness and help humanity
vast skiff
I wouldn't mind if they say Maria died of illness if G.U.N. invades when Shadow ...
Exactly
OHHHH
THATS A GREAT IDEA
like maybe shadow goes into a ritual part
Like, shadows powers are complete and maybe he can heal maria
The military bursts in and forces gerald to stop the project
Maria is unable to be saved then, shadow has to just stay with maria until she dies
And gerald is absolutely enraged for what happend
And brings in the rage with shadow
Then the military finds out about gerald working on project shadow still, and locks shadow down
And maaaybe kills gerald
Or jail him
ivory hazel
Yeah, that's a very good way of adapting sa2
vast skiff
Ik right
ivory hazel
Although if they do use the gun, I wouldn't mind if Shadow gets a no-kill rule a la Batman
the no-kill rule is basically done in pro of protecting life
which would be very fitting for Shadow given the role he was created for
Obviously still being his serious, severe self
but trying to protect all life as he can
vast skiff
Interesting idea
ivory hazel
Interesting idea
amber pasture
not only causing her death but not allowing Shadow to save her friend
Really love that idea Ngl
If not that maybe something like Project Shadow
ivory hazel
Something like that could work as well, even Pat Casey agreed it was an excellent job
very earnest, sincere
One of the best projects I've seen
amber pasture
restive fractal
My friend hates me for being excited for the Maria scene 😂
Same
Mine said “bro shooting a child is not funny”
Me: okay, she got space cancer and got shot
old cloud
My friend hates me for being excited for the Maria scene 😂
I would guess he hated you over William Afton's death in FNAF before?
amber pasture
What
restive fractal
Me: okay, she got space cancer and got shot
It made bro more mad💀
old cloud
I have to admit the fans obsession over seeing Maria's death is pretty weird and morbid.
untold summit
the gun agent giving his flashback in sonic 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4z5M8swbnk
old cloud
I wonder if the Drone we meet in that short will be canon, and it shows up in the movie? https://fxtwitter.com/P3chug4sYT/status/1758916772382519595/en
uncut willow
Is his head fat or is his face small?
untold summit
space
formal hazel
I wonder if the Drone we meet in that short will be canon, and it shows up in th...
I hope so
granite island
that would be pretty neat, having Unit become Movieverse Omega
amber pasture
Twitter
old cloud
Keith David is great, But isn't he too old?
amber pasture
No?
old cloud
Wouldn't you want someone a bit younger for Shadow?
amber pasture
Shadow is technically 50 😂
old cloud
How old is Keith David, Let me check
He's 67
Hes done many voice roles, But I will always remember his voice as Goliath.
Someone threw this suggestion. https://twitter.com/DKRenamonfan32/status/1758952674051916172
Twitter
untold summit
ben schwartz
old cloud
Many people want Anakin, But I have a feeling it will be a repeat of last time for Knuckles, people wanted this actor, And neither of our picks were the ones.
untold summit
jared leto
amber pasture
~~jared leto~~
shell wagon
Wouldn't you want someone a bit younger for Shadow?
nah i can see it
though i would cast him as black doom
old cloud
though i would cast him as black doom
He would make a good Black Doom.
amber pasture
though i would cast him as black doom
Nah that honor goes to Sean Schemmel https://x.com/seanschemmel/status/1651798373794717698?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ
Twitter
old cloud
Keith David's voice has an authoritative sound.
amber pasture
Like no joke Sean can actually still do it. He did the voice for my friend and I when I met him a few months back
old cloud
They are gonna go with someone well know, Somebody whose popular, Much like how Idris Elba is popular.
shell wagon
Keith David's voice has an authoritative sound.
This speech is just shadow to a gun officer
old cloud
He's a good director, He has a horror movie background, But really showed he can direct superhero movies.
ivory hazel
Evil dead movies are very hilarious. I watched a few recently and they are extremely fun
old cloud
The first Evil Dead was more serious, The 2nd and 3rd movie were more horror comedy.
ivory hazel
But also the Spider-man movies and M ultiverse of Madness
(that last one feels very Evil dead all things considered)
old cloud
Also he directed Multiverse of Madness which was good.
And nobody talks about the one superhero type movie he did back in the 90s, Darkman
untold summit
ivory hazel
https://tenor.com/view/bruce-campbell-doctor-strange-doctor-strange-in-the-multi...
Okay I laughed at this post credit scene
he looked so done
amber pasture
Twitter
restive fractal
https://x.com/rejectedjokes/status/1760090836581437827?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-Xv...
BEN SCHWARTZ
AND SONIC 3 NEWS?
HELL YEAHHHH
primal elk
https://x.com/rejectedjokes/status/1760090836581437827?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-Xv...
LETS GO
ivory hazel
Woah!
restive fractal
willow iron
https://x.com/rejectedjokes/status/1760090836581437827?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-Xv...
Oh shit ok
amber pasture
https://x.com/rejectedjokes/status/1760090836581437827?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-Xv...
Twitter
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arctic shadow
You know what this means right
arctic shadow
Yes voice actor announcements soon
amber pasture
ITS TIME
old cloud
Yes voice actor announcements soon
I would assume the voice casting will be announced while at CinemaCon, Who the heck is Shadow.
amber pasture
When is CinemaCon?
amber pasture
I don’t think they’d wait til April
That’s just me tho
But hey
Y’all think Colleen will tweet about recording
old cloud
They will probably drop who is voicing Shadow, But who knows, It would be nice via a Tweet ala Idris Elba.
amber pasture
That’s probably what will happen
Unless they do a Shadow teaser instead and just drop it there
amber pasture
Idris just used #Knuckles right?
amber pasture
Would they tweet him holding a gun or a chaos emerald?
“I am all of me….”
“Chaos Control”
old cloud
Hmm, Good question, Maybe a chaos emerald.
amber pasture
Hayden doesn’t have a twitter from what I can see
old cloud
Or "Whose the faker now"
old cloud
Here's an interesting theory, Could Jim Carrey also play Gerald? https://screenrant.com/sonic-hedgehog-3-jim-carrey-gerald-robotnik-theory/
vast skiff
Nah lmao
old cloud
Put him in old man makeup
primal elk
Thatd be hilarious
old cloud
Like Back to the Future style, where the actors played the older versions of characters, Just have Jim Carrey be old Gerald Robotnik
untold summit
https://x.com/rejectedjokes/status/1760090836581437827?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-Xv...
yoooo, they got ben schwartz back?
old cloud
of course
uncut willow
Wow
knotty prism
Poyo!
shut kayak
who do you guys think ben is voicing im betting on big the cat personally...
amber pasture
I’m guessing Mephiles
unborn violet
A lil something that came to mind while playing CD as Amy.
So the movie establishes that the game characters and locations are spread throughout the galaxy and not a singular place (Tails came from his own planet, Mushroom Hill itself is a planet, etc)
IF Amy's introduced in Sonic 3 or a later film, I imagine the movies will make it that she lived on Little Planet
old cloud
It's interesting that we have other planets, but everyone gets around with the ring portals, and not using any spacecraft for interstellar travel.
Probably the fermy paradox.
Which is there may have been life in other planets, but did not thought about space travel.
And the earth in this universe have been visited by other beings in the past, but nobody knew about it, because they just vanished through those portals.
I'm curious about this movie if they will do the alien origin of project Shadow, Black Doom.
G.U.N. is the only organization that knows about the existence of extra terrestrials.
amber pasture
willow iron
So it begins…
uncut willow
Huge blue room
old cloud
The first image is interesting, Because I wonder what that contraption is
Could this be the set of the facility where they find shadow?
ivory hazel
Probably
or the Ark, idk
it's hard to determine it
It doesn't seem to look like this place either
old cloud
That thing gotta be where they kept Shadow. https://vxtwitter.com/sonicas0/status/1760765167497859348
willow iron
Can’t wait for the model of shadow to be leaked 💯
Same thing happened with knuckles, it’s gonna happen again
ivory hazel
But the other structures wouldn't allow it
Pumpkin hill is like a graveyard
so having those mechanical structures doesn't fully match
old cloud
It could be some indoor structure, The blue screens just to add the background to make the place look bigger
amber pasture
https://fixupx.com/therealcineor/status/1760752971002916902?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G...
Twitter
vast skiff
Team up?
old cloud
Of course, they do team up in the end
By the 3rd act of the movie, Provided the Ark and the Biolizard is in the movie, They would team up
arctic shadow
I don't think they team up just because there is a time freeze scene
It is also possible they are fighting each other and GUN agents are in the middle of it
old cloud
Possibly
Given that both have the same super speeds, They would have more quicksilver scenes
arctic shadow
Absolutely
ivory hazel
it would be interesting
probably it is like this
Sonic finds Shadow and tries to talk, but G.U.N. comes and will get both of them regardless
so both must team up to get their way out of that
old cloud
Now I wonder if the climax of the movie will have both Sonic and Shadow go Super.
old cloud
But how would they go Super when the chaos emeralds were again scattered, They will have to find them again
Yeah, They are very lose
They take things from all the games
arctic shadow
Well one thing I would like to have like the game is that finding the emeralds there was basically a joke
Tails and Eggman already have 1 each, Rouge finds 3 on the island and Shadow steals one
old cloud
Remember the end of the second movie, Sonic scattered all the chaos emeralds, Leaving only the master emerald
arctic shadow
Sometime has passed
I don't want them to search for the emeralds in the movie
Only a bit maybe
old cloud
There would have to be some kind of time jump, and I think that's something that Knuckles will explore, Because it does take place between both movies.
arctic shadow
Maybe
ivory hazel
I don't want them to search for the emeralds in the movie
they could do a quick montage to find them though
like in wrath of the dragon (dbz movie)
they quickly gather the dragon balls in that movie, 5 minutes aprox
arctic shadow
Maybe they are all secured by GUN after what happened in 2
Or the montage idea which is also cool
ivory hazel
yeah it's fairly easy to gather them in terms of how a movie can visualize such concept
Tails does a tracker or something
gives the coordinates
Eggman does as well
so you get a montage of both sides getting emeralds
old cloud
Sonic is the one who spread the chaos emeralds, only he would know where he put them
ivory hazel
https://x.com/sonic1news/status/1761122092555423972?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXc...
Wish that image is not blurred like that
old cloud
Can they say Damn in a family friendly movie?
They could get around that and say, Where's that darn fourth chaos emerald.
TMNT 1990 did get away saying Damn.
ivory hazel
I wonder where they got the image from
I am not finding any results via reverse image search
Okay I found them
Hm
I'll suggest to have a grain of salt
the info comes from someone named therealcineor
and seems to have 'internal stuff' but I don't find any info out of his stuff
compared to the record of someone like DanielRPK
old cloud
Yeah, DanielRPK is a lot more reputable as a source.
wraith cedar
Unreliable source is unreliable
shell wagon
So like if they can run fast enough to slow time. What will chaos control even be
ivory hazel
Tbf, the chaos control in sa2 was established originally as just a technique to warp
teleport
shell wagon
Tbf, the chaos control in sa2 was established originally as just a technique to ...
Time stop exists in that game. However its not 2001
Time stop is chaos control, and shadow is known to just do it without chaos control
Heck its the one thing shadow does ( he should have been playable) in smash
shell wagon
Obviously im not blaming the writers. That first film is a by the numbers buddy cop thing that was decided by execs they copied the flasj
knotty prism
Since the chaos control out of the pod and prison island exists
shell wagon
Since the chaos control out of the pod and prison island exists
If your protagonist can run so fast Time slows the idea of a warp isnt cool eithe5
knotty prism
shell wagon
It has to be a thing that completely negates what sonic can do. Thats how its presented. Its why shadow on multiple occasions jokes about him cheating
ivory hazel
yeah but the time stop property didn't come until heroes. In sa2 is merely just a teleportation technique (one that saves Sonic).
Even in the final fight in the dark story Sonic says he will use Shadow's chaos control to teleport if he is left behind
shell wagon
So i am left to wonder do they up the anti
And i have a suspicion thats its gonna invovle mild time travel
knotty prism
Technically that's manipulating time as we-shot
shell wagon
I just think you gotta communicate that this dude is a force and has crazy powers
knotty prism
Shadow popping in and out of space while Sonic attempts to catch up with slow mo can work tho
Show in slow mo once for effect then do regular action outside of that since the disparity has already been established
ivory hazel
Shadow popping in and out of space while Sonic attempts to catch up with slow mo...
It's basically what happens in sa2. Sonic uses his speed to attack but Shadow's teleportation got him off guard
shell wagon
Again its not 2001 and they have flash powers now
knotty prism
Personally I'd rather they ditch the slow mo scenes altogether
shell wagon
Personally I'd rather they ditch the slow mo scenes altogether
I agree but that first movies weird foundation is what they work with. Heck it made it into prime
Which was dumb
Prime shouldn't have done that
ivory hazel
Prime doesn't have quicksilver sections, it has a slow-mo in some fights for dramatic effect
but that's about it
shell wagon
Prime doesn't have quicksilver sections, it has a slow-mo in some fights for dra...
Theres a scene in faccism world where sonic slows down time to dodge a bunch of stuff in the hallway.
That happens
Thars not a slow down thats a whole ass scene and sonic moves at normal speed
It also happens again when he is all pink but thats a power up so i dont count it
knotty prism
Which season is it in
shell wagon
Which season is it in
I thiiiink its one
My point is, if speeders can slow time. Then chaos control is less impressive. And if shadow ends up teleporting in the films again without eneralds like the games chaos control is super useless
I feel like they gotta add powers. Which i think they have been seeding. But i dunno
woven gazelle
Just a reminder that the films obviously aren’t going to be 1:1
shell wagon
Just a reminder that the films obviously aren’t going to be 1:1
Sure, im just thinking how is it gonna be different because going so fast time slows down basically invalidates and entire facet of powerset in the old universe
Im curious what they do
Because the key character has to look threatening. And it cant just be he punches sonic, the last guy did that. You have to add things. And i feel like their flash-ification of sonic put them in a corner
And hoping to god its not shadow steals someone elses power so then its like weird diminos of we have functionally rethink every character featured
brittle dew
If your protagonist can run so fast Time slows the idea of a warp isnt cool eith...
a thing going very fast can still get hit, a thing teleporting cannot
they could get from A to B in about the same time but the one popping in and out of existence at either end absolutely has the edge
it's like driving a lambo vs taking a bullet train
shell wagon
they could get from A to B in about the same time but the one popping in and out...
This is the other problem? Thats cool for like jojo's bizarre adventure. But i think for general audiences thats functionally indistinguishable
knotty prism
I just don’t get the complaint/reasoning in general
shell wagon
Thats a hard sell to little Timmy
shell wagon
I just don’t get the complaint/reasoning in general
Less of a complaint. Im legit curious gow they handle everything
restive fractal
this chats been hit by-this chat’s been hit by a talking tortoise
knotty prism
Speedster chasing after a teleporting powerhouse is going to look cool be it 2001 or 2024 “with slowmo already established”
shell wagon
This film series has a crazy foundation and its wildly different from the games. So new interpretations of characters facinate me
shell wagon
Speedster chasing after a teleporting powerhouse is going to look cool be it 200...
Eh, audiences are different. They might call shadow a fraud. We are decades of anime away from 2001. Fights have changed
Everyone can teleport its a meme at this point
One of which shadow is apart of.
knotty prism
Yeah I don’t think we need to be worried about people calling others frauds 
They’re Sonic movies not jjk
shell wagon
Yeah I don’t think we need to be worried about people calling others frauds <:ch...
We , no. Sega and Paramount who want to sell the character as cool to children. I think they do
ivory hazel
https://youtu.be/324JmXAZqGU?t=397
I found the fight, but yeah Sonic moves in slow-mo just like everything else
in this case, it was just for dramatic effect and not because he literally slows down time
shell wagon
Btw i want to be clear. Im not dying over this? Its a curiosity
knotty prism
restive fractal
Tho can movie sonic canonically slow down time
shell wagon
If we are being honest fronters is much bigger concern for shadow needing new unique moves.
But i just am really curious how they handle it. Maybe he never uses chaos control
I dunno
restive fractal
Tho can movie sonic canonically slow down time
If so he is now def my fav version of sonic even if he can’t
ivory hazel
Tho can movie sonic canonically slow down time
Yeah, he canonically can. Robotnik in the first movie used his air ship to get out of the slow down
(by using one of Sonic's quills)
restive fractal
YES
shell wagon
Hmm
knotty prism
Shadow doesn't need new unique moves because of Frontiers; that's one of the primary ways the Sonic series deals with power ups, they're all practically temporary
Sonic as a series has built in narrative functions allergic to the powerscalling obsession
One game can deal with a radical new moveset and powers, only to strip them away for the less over the top games while having everyone on a level playing field
shell wagon
Shadow doesn't need new unique moves because of Frontiers; that's one of the pri...
I feel like if you think sonic's fronters moveset is going away after they said its the basis for the future. In a genre that ( combat action games) known for animation and asset reuse. I have a bridge to sell you
knotty prism
It's arguably the reason why SEGA decided that Shadow's inhibitor rings were a no go
knotty prism
I feel like if you think sonic's fronters moveset is going away after they said ...
30 bucks
right here right now
shell wagon
He is gonna have to same move set in frontiers 2
knotty prism
If the next game retains frontiers' moveset, I pay $30
shell wagon
30 bucks
Nah cuz im broke. But i can spirituality bet you 30 dollars ( bills were due)
shell wagon
One game can deal with a radical new moveset and powers, only to strip them away...
I think things are changing. Especially with sonic's friends treating him like a messiah
That said, i think they been lowkey giving shadow , silver, blaze new powers for a minute. ( apparently hes gonna get more in the game later this year) so they likely got ideas. My sentiments about frontiers was to assuage notions that i think any potential movie inconsistencies are a real issue
shell wagon
Loser has to use Prime Sonic as a pfp for 2 weeks
Ill take that bet
old cloud
Twitter
ivory hazel
https://twitter.com/therealcineor/status/1761144518705815976
Very good very good
But I don't see the evidence
wraith cedar
What footage
old cloud
That little 4 seconds of footage inside the studio
amber pasture
https://twitter.com/therealcineor/status/1761144518705815976
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keen lagoon
Some fans gotta stop asking people that are working on the film if characters are gonna be in it.
Idk if it’s social unawareness, or they legit think that someone can drop that bomb shell if asked nicely.
ivory hazel
😭
I think we can stop with the finding every single person who works in either the knuckles series or the movie
old cloud
Eventually we'll find out who did the catering during the filming.
untold summit
"LOOK THIS GUY WORKS ON SONIC 3!"
like yeah, no shit people are working on this movie, it wouldn't be coming out otherwise.
primal elk
I think we can stop with the *finding every single person who works in either th...
Its hilariously dumb
keen lagoon
I think it somewhat helps with knowing what outside studios might be attached
Like how looking at some folks LinkedIn pages showed that outpost VFX, Rising sun pictures, and so on. Were attached to the knuckles series.
Which was a god send, compared to the past two movies hinging on like. 2 VFX branches, with MPC doing all the main work, which had a while solid presentation in movie 2, a much more stiffer aftermath once you looked into it.
Idk, I’m a sucker for the process of film development and how it functions, so I am biased lol
foggy grotto
Eventually we'll find out who did the catering during the filming.
Catering..? 🥴
amber pasture
I think we can stop with the *finding every single person who works in either th...
I’m working on Sonic 3… can I get a shout out
restive fractal
wait for real
ivory hazel
old cloud
We are now 300 days til Sonic 3 https://twitter.com/SonicCountdwn/status/1761499873805758622
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wraith cedar
https://vxtwitter.com/therealcineor/status/1761347802632736791
That's really cool but who cares 😭
There's nothing to glean from the video
keen lagoon
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if we get a sonic 3 trailer, right off the heels of the Knuckles series premiere.
considering it looks like, even though the strike did halt the production of certain scenes.
VFX still went forward along with a few exceptions (the G.U.N soliders/vehicles scene being done in Canary Wharf a bit ago).
So they could have polished a fair amount of scenes with the CG characters that could make a pretty tight teaser or trailer, or somthn.
keen lagoon
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if we get a sonic 3 trailer, right off the heels ...
And I mean, like.
RIGHT off the heels, April going into May.
granite island
i feel as if that's a bit too early, but who knows, in fact, imma do a thing, if the trailer releases around that time, i'll change my discord name to "PantySimp2024"
woven gazelle
CinemaCon, anyone?
untold summit
tbh I'm thinkin june
close enough to december and dropping it around not just sonic's anniversary but also the anniversary of sa2 is just a good time to drop the first teaser imo
granite island
HEAR ME OUT ON THIS: Kristen Wiig as Amy
watched Despicable Me 2 a while back, annd based off her preformance as Lucy, i think she could be a pretty great Amy
restive fractal
Didn’t Kristen Wiig voice Lola in the Looney Tunes Show?
formal hazel
Honestly? That’s a very good choice for amy
granite island
https://twitter.com/Sonicistebest/status/1761848173755064712 This guy is saying that the Sonic 3 trailer is releasing on April 11th, posting this here to say, don't get your hopes up, this might be fake
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though April 11th is the date of Paramount's panel at Cinemacon, so we might see something there for 3, though it'll probably be exclusive to the panel
old cloud
I doubt it, Its possible that Paramount will show early footage, But its not stuff they release to the public, But we'll get descriptions of the footage.
granite island
if there's a single mention of Amy, well, you know the rest
old cloud
My hope is they announce more of the casting, in particularly who is voicing Shadow, That would be a good place to make the announcement, Because they would have some of the cast members on the stage.
keen lagoon
Only trailer I could see is a sizzle reel at best, if it were the case.
I'm sure there's a few..'nearly' polished CG scenes from the plate filming & non actor shots within the space before human cast filming began, but not by much.
Esp since Ben just started recording lines.
granite island
i feel if we do get a trailer in April, it will probably just be a teaser trailer
we probably won't get a proper trailer until June at the earliest
untold summit
the sonic 3 trailer is NOT dropping before knuckles
It just is not
hell, they're only NOW doing voice work, there's no way in hell they'll have a trailer ready by then lmao
woven gazelle
formal hazel
Well it’s been nice knowing you movie sonic
granite island
Well it’s been nice knowing you movie sonic
the merger ain't happening bro
and THANK GOD
vast skiff
keen lagoon
woven gazelle
"A particular highlight was seeing behind the scenes of the making of Sonic the Hedgehog 3, which was so top secret that the students were not even allowed to take photographs!"
ivory hazel
😲
keen lagoon
did those students potentially get the honor to see the shadow stand in, in person.
That or were able to see the process of filming it, up & close.
arctic shadow
Damn lucky
ivory hazel
With some luck
a post out there may describe what they saw
but in any case, lucky them
willow iron
What if some kid draws the shadow model 💀
ivory hazel
What if some kid draws the shadow model 💀
Unless they have super good drawing skills, I doubt that can be helpful
willow iron
Unless they have super good drawing skills, I doubt that can be helpful
Should’ve been me 😔
I would’ve hooked y’all up
vast skiff
Make his quills like how they are supposed to
vast skiff
https://tenor.com/view/shadow-the-hedgehog-gif-24111172
This ain rol tho
knotty prism
Multi spike shadow looks weird
ivory hazel
This ain rol tho
just bringing it as a reference of how it will look compared to ROL
Now this is ROL
knotty prism
vast skiff
No effort on the quills
knotty prism
I don't like how there are stray spikes hanging down
It's rough
We'll be getting a new model but I hope they don't do it again
vast skiff
Even the project shadow model fanfilm doesnt look right
keen lagoon
I think that's just gonna be a thing as is, since he's a hedgehog.
maaaybe, it could work if they were slicked back, but idk, I doubt it.
vast skiff
https://tenor.com/view/sonic2-shadow-project-shadow-sonic2shadow-shadow-the-hedgehog-gif-25602211 can i say that whereever shadow is
Thats the most sa2 ark looking enviromment simce shadowth
His quills are too straight
keen lagoon
I think as long as they tweak the shape to make them a bit more bent it should alright.
Since that is the super sonic model just recolored/with new assets.
ivory hazel
mhm
tyson did say it was just for time that they did this
but for movie 3 they should have a proper model
keen lagoon
That much seems to be the case with the stand-in shadow we saw, even from the body down in terms of how much stuff they changed from the post credits.
The rings on his hands and feet having the imbedded lines/visible cuff seperation, rather than being rounded/seamless.
ivory hazel
knotty prism
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ivory hazel
Normally the stand-ins don't have some details as they are used merely for reference
of how the light affects them in certain areas
to use that for the models when the animations start
keen lagoon
How would yall feel if Shadow wasn't a very talkative character?
Like mostly mute, and just kinda going off of expression/choiced words & sentences.
It's been somthn I've been thinking abt in how they could depict him, to differentiate and maybe not go through a retread of Sonic 2.
Not to say that Knuckles & Shadow are the same characters by any means, but from a basic point of view, how they're presented could branch to different avenues in the storytelling is all.
keen lagoon
How would yall feel if Shadow wasn't a very talkative character?
Like mostly mut...
That's also not to say that he's particulary chatty ofc.
ivory hazel
I mean, Shadow was not the most talkative person in sa2
and his personality differs a lot from Knuckles
Knuckles is more straight forward when doing a task
just do the mission
Shadow is more distant about it but also more severe with those who cause harm
old cloud
*"A particular highlight was seeing behind the scenes of the making of Sonic the...
They probably made them sign an NDA
keen lagoon
Yeah, I think with SA2 shadow, it was more so of a silent rage/inner termoil, that leaked at moments in action.
ivory hazel
Mhm
Knuckles is much more open how he feels
and, within the sonic movies, he was not revenge driven
he just wanted to honor his clan
and accomplish the mission they could not do
and I doubt Shadow would be as much of a fish out of the water as Knuckles was in sonic movie 2
I can see them doing some captain america ish tropes, being him as someone out of his time
but that's about it
You won't see Shadow saying:
keen lagoon
I def feel like this is the movie, where Sonic's current life is gonna be the most threatened.
At least everything he cares abt, Sonic 2's whole..robotnik getting the master emerald & talking big talk abt taking over the world, and destroying everything.
I think Sonic kinda expected that out of him, but he still took him serious to a degree. But from his past time with the dude, he knows he's eccentric & ego driven.
With Shadow, he's basically a stranger that's deadset on just killing everybody and wiping earth off the map.
ivory hazel
Mhm. Even though the same tragic event happened to Sonic, Knuckles and Shadow (losing their families)
their coping process is entirely different
Sonic aislated himself from everyone (Movie 1)
Knuckles searches to honor his clan (Movie 2)
and Shadow wants revenge against those who harmed him (movie 3)
keen lagoon
Yk what I think would be pretty narratively sound?
Sonic's arc in the film possibly being abt revenge as well, or at least wanting to get back/even with whatever Shadow is gonna do or maybe HAS already done at some point in the film.
Kinda how easy it can be to fall into it, and it being a bit of cycle that just hurts more people.
ivory hazel
It would be interesting. Movie Sonic is much more emotional than Game Sonic is
keen lagoon
He's definetly been prone to ''taking care of'' his foe.
If Super Sonic in 2 was any kind of idea of his mindset when it comes to a last straw.
He wasn't abt to give that man a light baby tap, after he threatened his family lol
ivory hazel
yeah
I think that's the advantage movie sonic has over game sonic
he has more chances for emotional moments to hit
Game Sonic's nature is cool for what it is, but his own personality can make him be a bit hard to work around emotional moments
Movie Sonic, on his side, can and will be as emotional as he considers necessary in order to protect everyone
ivory hazel
and I am sure Shadow's design will be banger for movie 3
old cloud
I just realize that article was from November, And we just find out about it? hahah
11/27/23
ivory hazel
😮
old cloud
If Espio were to appear in a post credit scene, Which of the 3 voices would you choose? https://fxtwitter.com/NasshimuA/status/1762489540936106024
lean star
No red stripes
Hell I can't unnotice this now
restive fractal
No red stripes
Maybe there are red stripes, it’s just that the lighting is a bit too dark to actually see it
ivory hazel
Maybe there are red stripes, it’s just that the lighting is a bit too dark to ac...
it's just a stand-in
stand-ins don't necessarily have all the details
restive fractal
Oh yeah
keen lagoon
Please lord, let 'Industrial light & Magic' come back for Sonic 3 after Knuckles for the animation..
if this is what that UK production allows, than pls man..because so far, I'm not seeing any signs of MPC returning for round 3 atm.
old cloud
Its possible that they are involved, They usually have multiple FX studios working on different FX shots
granite island
https://vxtwitter.com/BerryTheFox_/status/1762790721696981285 RUMOUR: Two set photos have leaked showing Sonic and Shadow's props, this was from SonicMovieTV, who previously released another Shadow leak that was proven to be fake, so take this with a grain of salt
arctic shadow
They are blurred so they may be fake easily
uncut willow
If they were proven to be fake before, then why show another😭
vast skiff
Yea this is totally fake
arctic shadow
Nvm they confirmed it is fake
I don't think we are getting set leaks due to how secretive they are being
With photos
brittle dew
Even if they were real, I
don’t think they make much difference lmao 😭
can’t believe sonic and shadow are in this movie!!
a shocking turn of events!!
vast skiff
You cant see shit either
granite island
I don't think we are getting set leaks due to how secretive they are being
yeah, in fact, i think filming finished a while back, with not a single set leak
well, minus that set video from a while back