and then "knuckles kinda has a story i guess"
#Wade (Formerly KNUCKLES)
silver nebula
wide pike
this will test the true strength of the wade fandom
wise hazel
Im still curious if the end of the series leads to Sonic 3.
silver nebula
it is..
civic marlin
Honestly i just hope it is good
obtuse owl
I always expected that sonic movie is going to be way more focused over th e humans
lusty summit
I’m kinda thankful I never paid too much attention to the series… I’d be kinda disappointed rn if I did
turbid hull
obtuse owl
So I don't see this being the exceeption
vital eagle
Episode 5 and 6 are just iffy on screen time, but knuckles still has presence. But most I see is that episodes 1-3 balanced knuckles and wade well, but I definetly do think that the budget was probably hitting for CG & Idris.
wide pike
Honestly i just hope it is good
depends on what you want it looks like
obtuse owl
Honestly I am looking forward to this because I really loved the human cast
wise hazel
there film/tv critics, there views don't align with the audience.
civic marlin
Episode 5 and 6 are just iffy on screen time, but knuckles still has presence. B...
Thats so stupid lmfao
wide pike
I’m kinda thankful I never paid *too* much attention to the series… I’d be kinda...
Same 
silver nebula
I’m kinda thankful I never paid *too* much attention to the series… I’d be kinda...
i wasnt going to pay a ton of attention to it but the clips (which were obviously chosen as knuckles centric ones) kinda made me more interested
obtuse owl
VAs can be very expensive depending on who tbf
vapid slate
I'll say this - at least we're not getting cucked for close to a year for 3 "seasons" only to have the last 5 episodes drag harder than an owner dragging their cat from catnip
wise hazel
the reviews arent on rotten tomatoes yet, But I bet later on today it will stop popping up
tall pawn
Lord imagine the budget going into 3 though
silver nebula
They didnt have enough money for idris on the idris show
i think its less about idris and moreso about animation
obtuse owl
Especially considering it's Paramount
tall pawn
too many fckin big names
civic marlin
Its gonna be movie sized
wide pike
I’m about done here though, I don’t want to see or hear a lot since I want to go into this largely blind
vapid slate
Better get all of it out of the way and move on to the actual thing that matters
open vigil
Lord imagine the budget going into 3 though
I'd say $150 000 000
lusty summit
I don’t have plans to watch it on my own tbh. Maybe a watch party is in order?
wide pike
That’d be fun
open vigil
I ain't paying for paramount + lmao so i'd be down
lusty summit
I ain't paying for paramount + lmao so i'd be down
Me neither
silver nebula
id join if its at a time thats reasonable
wise hazel
Someone needs to do a Watch Party for those who don't have access to Paramount+ or not subscribed to it.
silver nebula
for me i mean
wide pike
I don’t think anyone here is buying Paramount+ for knuckles 💀
turbid hull
honestly I'm good with the show not pretending to me more than what it is (cough cough prime cough)
they promised knucles and wade doing stupid shit and we're getting knuckles and wade doing stupid shit
lusty summit
(If you’re wondering, no I wouldn’t let people talk over it. We could all react in chat or something)
tall pawn
or for those that aren't willing to pi-
wise hazel
I have an annual subscription to Paramount+ though
turbid hull
I'm popping my free trial
wide pike
If the time is convenient, I’ll join for sure
open vigil
Yeah same
obtuse owl
Agreed hector
wise hazel
I didn't work last friday, So here's hoping I don't have to this week, If not, I have to watch it after work.
obtuse owl
Plus I prefer treated knuckles series as a side content
Not as the main content
I don't want Paramount pulled a marvel where it goes like" YOU HAVE TO WATCH ALL OF THIS FOR STORY IMPORTANCE" or some bullshit
silver nebula
Its relatively lower budget means that, by episode four, there are entire episodes where the CGI echidna — voiced, once again, by Idris Elba — appears for less than a couple of minutes in total.
wise hazel
The thing is come friday, Some people will watch it early, and you can expect tons of spoilers all over social media
silver nebula
man ep 4 is gonna suck ass
vital eagle
I like how episode 4 is directly split between reviewers because of the musical aspect.
Just like the wedding scene in 2
silver nebula
for me its less about the musical aspect, i dont have an issue with musicals
i just
want to see knuckles?? in the knuckles show??
Twitter
ok posting this here bc knuckles
BUT METAL 3.0 YEAHH
RIVALS 2 REAL
wide pike
that was a crazy transition wtf nidio 😭
vital eagle
Right lmao?
silver nebula
idc about wade show METAL SONIC FROM AN ALT DIMENSION EGGMAN MENTIONED!!!
silver nebula
or uh, different time eggman according to rivals canon
obtuse owl
💀
silver nebula
its a metal sonic variant made by eggman nega
vital eagle
Talking abt rivals, man that’s shard. That’s who that is
That’s all I’ll ever know from that color scheme lol
silver nebula
shard is based off of metal sonic mach 3.0
i always found it funny that mach 2.0 is just 3.0 but without the different head
WAIT NO THE PAINT IS DIFFERENT I NEVER NOTICED LMAO
haughty lava
Honestly really glad it’s just a lil side-story and they’re not MCU-ing it lol
haughty lava
like I really don’t want these shows to start being homework like marvel does, just lil funny side-stories and I dig that
My main worry was “will it be funny” and thankfully the reviews are firmly answering that as a yes
Looking forward to giving it a watch
civic marlin
To me the jokes can be hit or miss or just not make me laugh as long as it is entertaining
The fact this whole series is gonna be the size of prime season 3 makes me kinda ill
turbid hull
the fact that prime season 3 was that long and accomplished so little is honestly depressing
civic marlin
I dont know how the fuck it got to be that bad
But i dont care maybe it was rushed sure, but the base content was garbage
turbid hull
sonic fights emo tails in a boring ass void for 7 episodes
how do you fumble a sonic multiverse plot this badly
civic marlin
It is honestly so bad and so the bare minimum of the concept
Man of Action please for the love of god
Never write anything again
errant steeple
https://twitter.com/SEGAHARDlight/status/1782362236746358987
Twitter
haughty lava
how do you fumble a sonic multiverse plot this badly
Not having the budget to do more than like a handful of universes really do be like that lol
civic marlin
At least wade show is not just an excuse to sell toys
haughty lava
like, the moment prime started falling apart for me was the season 2 trailer and realising “oh its the same four worlds for the whole entire thing huh”
tall pawn
Well atleast we got sonic villains for our multiverse sonic fix
civic marlin
I know my fall out with prime was confusing
But you have to understand my thought process
haughty lava
Well atleast we got sonic villains for our multiverse sonic fix
Stiiiiiiiiill dunno what to make of villains lol
civic marlin
Ep 1 of prime wasnt bad at all, it was interesting to see this new story that felt more actiony and different than boom
haughty lava
the moment they said in interviews “StC is a blank slate we can put new ideas into!” was the moment I kinda tapped out
civic marlin
But once they introduced the jungle story i just tuned out
tall pawn
What's stc again...
civic marlin
And season 2... had chaos sonic and i liked chaos sonic
tall pawn
Oh sonic the comic?
haughty lava
Sonic the comic (the UK one)
tall pawn
At the very least it's utilising the multiverse shtick for sonic wayyy better than prime ever could have
Nice celebration of everything sonic outside of the games.
civic marlin
Like the best concept prime had to me was nine, shadow being cool again and more than just i hate everything type guy, and a metal sonic thats trashtalking and annoying yet dangerous like what eggman sees sonic like
Everything else
Sucked
Im pretty sure they didnt even account for knuckles family being greedy to make something out of dread
They just made knuckles a greedy pirate cuz thats what they had for ideas for a toy
God i hate prime so much
Even sonic, i was on board with him cuz idw sonic was so
tall pawn
I do applaud them for doing something original with Metal Sonic even if im not a fan of pretty much all of its execution
civic marlin
Exaustingly without any development
Like no flaws, if he had any, he was right
Didnt feel like he treated anything seriously
So it was refreshing to see a sonic show where sonic is more of a doofus
But then it amounted for him to just not have any development at all
Be repetitve as hell
Like how the hell
Do you make prime sonic to be one of my favorite sonics
Down to fucking least favorite in the span of 3 seasons
turbid hull
honestly by a certain point, prime sonic was just waaayyyy to far up on the dumbass scale for me
and there was nothing to really balance it out either which just made it worse
civic marlin
Yea
Like to me the reason why. Iliked sonic so much was the animation
But then once the animation just, did not offer anything new
I just saw him as like
Yea hes one of the worst sonics we ever had
And i want to see that kind of fun and bounicness out of a sonic thats more
Less of a dumbass
The writing is just dogshit
For a thing thats supposed to take place in canon, it doesnt feel like the writers didnt even care to do more than "big the cat and green hill zone" as research
Truly a product from the mid 2010s
Anyways this just became a rant about prime
Uh knuckles show
Hope the writing is good
Even of it is a wade show all it needs to do is entertain me
Im okay for any addition for the sonic series story as long as it is well written
Now we know that the shadow show wont be about shadow but the human with him 
obtuse owl
I was having a good time over Prime
But the moment season 3 arrived......... it went downhill so bad
Became another show that it started out great but went into dogshit later on
Not the first time I've seen this happening
looks at star vs. force of evil and dexter's labatory
autumn crypt
This is what meant also by "wait and see" before people start posting memes about sonic movie stuff killing other stuff
Could be ass
haughty lava
I’ll be real… this is a paramount+ show, even if it was godlike it ain’t killing nobody 😭😭
Least explosive bomb vs fit and healthy baby (it is still getting decimated by the bomb)
shut locust
Now we know that the shadow show wont be about shadow but the human with him <:k...
am gonna bet, Racheal
both cuz character dynamic and so i won't mind her being the main focus, cuz Racheal is one of my favorite human characters, like, in the entire franchise
won't mind Wade being the lead in Knuckles either, he's also one of my favorites
gloomy scarab
civic marlin
Very curious to see what happens
obtuse owl
I honestly tend to have a opinion not many people will agreed with
So I am not bothered
haughty lava
both cuz character dynamic and so i won't mind her being the main focus, cuz Rac...
Rachael and her hubby from 2 would be a laugh for a show honestly
Dunno who they’d be paired with sonic-wise but it’d be a laugh
turbid hull
i think it'd be funny if she was paired with shadow
civic marlin
It would be hilarious tone difference
haughty lava
Off on their honeymoon only for Gun to fuck shit up and shadow to step in
Hubby being utterly useless whilst Rachel just completely murders some soldiers
SHADOW & RACHEL VIOLENCE SPREE
FUCK I WANT THIS NOW??
sinful orchid
That would honestly be amazing
shut locust
FUCK I WANT THIS NOW??
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SAME BRO, SHADOW AND RACHEAL SPINOFF PARAMOUNT PLZ I WOULD PAY YOU TO MAKE THIS
sinful orchid
New profile picture and header for Paramount+ on Twitter
haughty lava
Yeah that, definitely tracks for a TV show with a fraction of the budget of a movie
shame but it’s no killer blow if the rest stands up
rugged junco
lunar valley
Man.
civic marlin
Yep uh
vapid slate
Yeah I saw someone say that some review compared it to Kangaroo Jack and I'm losing my mind
civic marlin
I hope the writing is good
And makes the human characters stand on its own
Cuz uh
Is not looking good for the titular character
Poor knuckles
Anything he has name on is not about him
Knuckles Chaotix
Knuckles Series
We are 2 for 2
autumn crypt
Least explosive bomb vs fit and healthy baby (it is still getting decimated by t...
not if it was a cool baby, like a baby that knew sick parries
untold walrus
It’s probably on par with the movies’ writing so it’ll be fairly standard kids movie writing
lunar valley
i hope the "good action scenes" can at least make it up to me...
's all i ask....
autumn crypt
shame but it’s no killer blow if the rest stands up
i dunno if it will, but if i'm keeping it a buck that's kind of an issue making a tv show about knuckles in the first place
lunar valley
mixed to positive
haughty lava
i dunno if it will, but if i'm keeping it a buck that's kind of an issue making ...
Honestly I’m not sure who could make it about without running into the same issue, like Robotnik aside cos I don’t think Carrey would do this kinda thing
haughty lava
"Knuckles series but its just Knuckles" videos
recognisable thing not on screen… where recognisable thing……. I need to recognise……..
autumn crypt
Honestly I’m not sure who could make it about without running into the same issu...
the chaotix
You could do a goofy detective agency thing, but then its like budget cost
eh...
haughty lava
Each character would be onscreen for ten minutes with CG budgets 😭😭
vapid slate
Y'know what would fix the issue?
@silver nebula post your wade & knuckles poster again
autumn crypt
I think the answer is, go back in time to 2009-2010 when they are drafting these contracts sneak in to whereever its being drafter and change every instance of live action to "animated"
civic marlin
Nah
open vigil
A bad script weither animated or not won't change the fact that it sucks
haughty lava
twenty shows that look exactly like the 2010 renders coming right up!!!!
civic marlin
It would not be a successful
vapid slate
I think the answer is, go back in time to 2009-2010 when they are drafting these...
looks at Prime
autumn crypt
A bad script weither animated or not won't change the fact that it sucks
That' snot what i'm talking
about
civic marlin
Animated means shit if it is not written decently
autumn crypt
the spin off shows wold be fully animated so budget costs wouldn't matter
civic marlin
Thats a full hour of knuckle
vapid slate
>Couple minutes of Knuckle
It's 75 minutes
Out of 180
autumn crypt
It would not be a successful
This is factually untrue
Most live actions efforts litterally shifted to full animation because it makes money
vapid slate
Efforts like...?
autumn crypt
It likely would have been more successful
haughty lava
The only reason I want an animated film now is cos mainstream CG’s finally branching out with unique visual styles - 2010s and even early 2020s CG was decidedly not that lol
autumn crypt
gestures towards the mario movie
open vigil
Hmmm
haughty lava
it would be game sonic with realistic pores and it would’ve been boring as fuck, but they could do it right now as the sauce is finally there
autumn crypt
Efforts like...?
Notably the smurffs, but also there's a lot of animated efforts if pitched a decade prior wold have been live action. you litterally don't get spiderverse if its not pitched when it was
And they are still trying to mke a live action miles film
open vigil
Thing is, maybe it wouldn't have been as successful in the long term, pumping out successful animated movies' follow ups is way harder than doing the same thing for live actions
autumn crypt
The turtles too
Heck there's a goddamn 3d animated orginal series transformers film coming out
Sonic was pitched too early to hit that wave and by the time the film was done, the wave had been hit
open vigil
Thing is, maybe it wouldn't have been as successful in the long term, pumping ou...
Look at where we at now : 3 movies in less 5 years and it's prolly gonna make $1.2-1.500.000.000
autumn crypt
Which...if we are being honest with outselves. Its very sonic
There's always caveats
haughty lava
Sonic was pitched too early to hit that wave and by the time the film was done, ...
I mean they could’ve, but it would look like this
obtuse owl
I feel like it's more so t hat a lot of sonic chars can't easily do a entire show on their own alone
Only exceptions I can say do that well enough outside of Sonic is..... Shadow but even with Shadow
autumn crypt
I feel like it's more so t hat a lot of sonic chars can't easily do a entire sho...
Imma keep it a stack. I think a few can. I just don't think knuckles can by himself
obtuse owl
It's mainly more so towards his arc. His post however probably be bit other chars involved
haughty lava
so much mainstream CG was stuck so firmly in the visual style of “cartoon thing but with realistic textures” for like two decades and I’m so glad we did not get that for sonic lol
vapid slate
ngl I'd argue if the movie was fully animated, it'd be in a much bigger dev hell the first movie already had
autumn crypt
Knuckles if i'm being a blunt needs more of a supporting cast than a lot of characters. He gets a lot of " push " from fans because he's old. But there's not a lot going on there
obtuse owl
Knuckles has always been a char that is heavily relied with other cast regardless of whom
finite onyx
We already got that for Sonic
guestures towards Unleashed
obtuse owl
Whenever Knuckles is the main focus he always have someone to tag around
autumn crypt
I feel like if you gave knuckles like an animated show it would be a ducktales situation
like a lot supporting cast
obtuse owl
Whether with Sonic himself, Chaotix, Rouge, or even the human cast
autumn crypt
other characters show up
haughty lava
like I cannot stress enough that if the first sonic movie got approved when it did it would have that visual style, it’s only in the time since spiderverse made its impact
autumn crypt
Not to dog on knuckles, this is just how sega constructed the dude
vapid slate
But it wasn't on the big screen, which we're kinda talking about
open vigil
like I cannot stress enough that if the first sonic movie got approved when it d...
We would've prolly ended up with a chris 2 too, cuz you gotta make it relatable to children
untold walrus
I’m just waiting for the eventual self contained animated Sonic movie that’s more game accurate
haughty lava
now we’re in a post-spiderverse world I’m down for CG sonic, less so a pre-spiderverse world
obtuse owl
Not to dog on knuckles, this is just how sega constructed the dude
Nah it's completely true
Knuckles is never meant to be a char that does thing solo
He always have someone tagging alongside
haughty lava
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN5LSHvWiy0&ab_channel=ProsafiaGaming
No offence but I would not watch an hour and a half of this
obtuse owl
Which again is part of his character
haughty lava
Nor would anyone over the age of like
obtuse owl
Where he doesn't have to rely things on his own alone anymore
haughty lava
14
finite onyx
Alright
obtuse owl
It's why I am perfectly okay with Wade getting more focused
finite onyx
🗿
obtuse owl
Since Knuckles regardless of the amount of screentime still gets the job done very well
autumn crypt
It's why I am perfectly okay with Wade getting more focused
My issue with wade getting focus, is wade seems lame
( also in a post spider version mutant mahem land scape i deeply yearn for more sonic animated content in different art styles. and it upsets me we are stuck with live action , but I can't change it now contracts have been drawn so i have to sit here and hope shadow looks cool )
finite onyx
I'm not exactly rearing to get the average 40 year old into the stadium seats to watch Sonic T Hedgehog either
Mario movie is proof enough that just letting the characters be themselves can net them all the success in the world
untold walrus
Night of the Werehog isn’t exactly what anyone wants tho
autumn crypt
Mario movie is proof enough that just letting the characters be themselves can n...
Turns out the reason people see thse movies is because they are fond of the video games. Who knew!
finite onyx
Night of the Werehog isn’t exactly what anyone wants tho
I wasn't saying Night of the Werehog was lol, the style is what I was posting
Obv we want something closer to
The opening
autumn crypt
That executive that wantd sonic to be ugly and pushed for the fist films script, didn't know apperently
Crazy
finite onyx
Actual game plots
untold walrus
Aaaah right
untold walrus
Time to get Marzapilled
I’d be down for like something like the OVA with a tighter script and stuff idk I just want cool Sonic shit
The movies and Prime aren’t cool to me
open vigil
Thing is, maybe it wouldn't have been as successful in the long term, pumping ou...
I still stand by this btw
untold walrus
I wouldn’t really want a long line of animated Sonic movies
proven oriole
Currently Knuckles show is at 80%
untold walrus
Unless they go the Pokémon route and just do fun self contained adventures that don’t have an overarching plot to em
Again I just want cool Sonic shit
proven oriole
I personally want to see Knuckles. Some reviews did bring up that Isnt as leaning on pop culture references compared to the movies
Instead, it goes for absurd humor and slapstick
vapid slate
Eh
haughty lava
pop culture references and slapstick are like ying and yang for me - one misses the mark most of the time with me, the other I will cackle at any day of the week
get three stoogespilled
finite onyx
I hope that the series is funny, that's the draw for me after the first trailer
vapid slate
"Slapstick" automatically makes my brain go AoSTH and I kinda don't like it on a principle alone
untold walrus
AoStH feels mindless to me
vapid slate
Guess I should've clarified - for Sonic specifically
Slapstick in general is whatever, but that's not why I got into Sonic
proven oriole
I havent watched aosth to know Un fortunately
vapid slate
I watched 1 episode
finite onyx
It's mostly just very typical cartoon stuff with like 0 timing
untold walrus
AoStH has good stuff in it but it’s not a show I’m eager to rewatch again
finite onyx
Just stuff happening
haughty lava
Maybe one day I’ll watch it for robotnik dumpy
spark wind
From what I remember, the slapstick isn't really that based on reality to where it could become actually funny
open vigil
I watched like... 20 eps of every single cartoons from the 90s and none of them were even remotely close to interesting tbh, nor were they really entertaining
vapid slate
I hope Knuckles show is better with that
spark wind
So you're just watching weightless characters ramming their heads into shit or something
finite onyx
Yeah I'll actually laugh at Wade being taken by surprise and dragged off down the road
untold walrus
There’s only like two episodes I remember enjoying, the first episode with a blowup doll joke and the “I’m over there” joke as well. And the Sonic giving up Tails to his “parents” was genuinely sweet as well
vapid slate
Can't really be excited for Knuckles' screentime in the show called "Knuckles", so that's the only thing that's left lmao
proven oriole
I kinda want to watch all the sonic shows to have a good idea out of them
I remember watching just a few episodes of Under ground and X in 4kids dub moment.
Both kinda boring
proven oriole
But it was years ago so I wish to see If I will stand by that.
finite onyx
Wade the Wipple
spark wind
Yeah I'll actually laugh at Wade being taken by surprise and dragged off down th...
This face
finite onyx
the bup
open vigil
I kinda want to watch all the sonic shows to have a good idea out of them
I rem...
Sonic X 4 kidz 😭
proven oriole
Sonic X 4 kidz 😭
Lmao 😭
cosmic kindle
It feels expected the show won't focus only on Knuckles. I feel indifferent with the reviews.
finite onyx
This one's for the Wade fans
untold walrus
4Kids X removes all the sauce, actively dumbed it down.
finite onyx
Eh the episodes that were supposed to be funny still were imo
untold walrus
Jane?
haughty lava
(jk!! Wade is not straight)
atomic geyser
flopckles
finite onyx
I do think that the JP version had one extra joke in the prison island episode though
Which actually made sense
proven oriole
Id like to check
Usinh ygo as reference, they removed a lot of marik's background which sucks but also they added the shadow realm which is a Very clever censore that fans use to this day.
finite onyx
Because they were storming the island with a paddle boat
atomic geyser
This is like prime time like issue with the Sonic cinematic verse
finite onyx
Yea but we're talking comedy here 
proven oriole
Id like to check
Usinh ygo as reference, they removed a lot of marik's backgrou...
And it fits given that the shadow duela do exist in the original series (Yami no duels)
(Although I will be fair, the original ygo series (not season 0) did tone down marik as well, as well as Bakura. Both are extremely more graphic in the manga as a whole compared to the anime)
open vigil
not sure that's on purpose tho
untold walrus
There’s gotta be a middle ground to “this show is crucial to the movies” and “you can ignore it and still understand the movies’ storyline”
finite onyx
Idk it sounds fairly MCU to me
atomic geyser
Why the hell would I want a Knuckles show not to focus on Knuckles
Sonic MCU verse has to be some of the most focus grouped medias I've ever seen
I enjoyed Movie 2 when it came out but in retrospect after the media that's come out since then, I've been expecting more quality out of the franchise honestly
I just want Sonic movies to be true to Sonic and the Knuckles show not focusing on that as it seems is pretty depressing.
haughty lava
There’s gotta be a middle ground to “this show is crucial to the movies” and “yo...
Nah, the latter please
untold walrus
The Sonic movies were never going to be that, it’s just not happening
atomic geyser
Yeah but I really didn't want the Movie verse to still continue getting movies/shows
Suffering from success
haughty lava
Nah, the latter please
just like the games, you don’t need to play everything in this series to vibe - just jump in wherever and you’re set
finite onyx
I remember when MCU tv shows were largely unrelated shows that you elect to ignore
haughty lava
(there’s exceptions ofc, shadow’s game mainly, but this series by default is not built to MCU)
open vigil
I remember when MCU tv shows were largely unrelated shows that you elect to igno...
Then wanda vision happened
untold walrus
Only MoM and esp the Marvels required shows to get an idea of what’s going on
tall pawn
They seem to want to go back to the isolated show stuff with spiderman freshman year and Daredevil Born again
haughty lava
Agents of Shield moment
Agents of shield is so funny they really just went off the rails cos nobody was looking
shoutout to the episode where coulson is just max headroom
untold walrus
No Way Home had Matt Murdock for like a brief period but I think that cameo worked well enough to build intrigue to those who don’t know him prior
proven oriole
Tbf with that, that was in an era where people werent sure If the netflix series were canon or not to the mcu
They didnt start to lean into that until she hulk
haughty lava
shoutout to the episode where coulson is just max headroom
Funniest shit possible
proven oriole
They were just glad Charlie Cox returned as Daredevil but back Then It was treated merely as a soft reboot in the best case scenario, or another continuity entirely
finite onyx
Tbf with that, that was in an era where people werent sure If the netflix series...
Oh no, the canon coping
We're not even getting a Daredevil movie to begin with! It was all for nothing!
proven oriole
Oh no, the canon coping
Some people did do the dumbest arguments later down the line but thats another story entirely
haughty lava
No more canon
finite onyx
No more jane
haughty lava
society has bypassed the need for canon
finite onyx
untold walrus
No more jane
Finally no more British people
haughty lava
sweaty nerds have had their way for too long
tall pawn
Canon in the long run just ends up limiting what you can do with certain characters or stories
proven oriole
They didnt start to lean into that until she hulk
And it was until Echo where they went full 'netflix is canon to the mcu'
haughty lava
“Ohh this is universe number 362!!” you are on number zero romantic partners it’s time to go outside
finite onyx
Canon in the long run just ends up limiting what you can do with certain charact...
I don't think that applies to stuff like TV shows and inducted characters/their villains very well
haughty lava
Outside is scary i don’t wanna
[dangling game accurate sonic characterisation on a string by the door] here pspspspspsps
finite onyx
If you go "screw the canon" you have to introduce them all over again for every new story
tall pawn
It is ultimately a matter of if you handle it right.
take dc and marvel for example. On completely different ends of the spectrum
Marvel never reboots the main comics at all while dc does it every couple years. Although dc usually keeps the cliff notes important events
untold walrus
*[dangling game accurate sonic characterisation on a string by the door]* here p...
I’m not letting the British people control Indians/Sri Lankans again BACK OFF
proven oriole
Stupid Batman who laughs
haughty lava
I’m not letting the British people control Indians/Sri Lankans again BACK OFF
SCREAMING 😭😭
the reality:
tall pawn
Marvels approach is wayyyy riskier. One fuck up could make everything before and after just complete shit
But DC just alienates the people who already liked what was going on in the first place
finite onyx
Marvel's approach does not make a lick of sense with how many directors they throw at it imo
obtuse owl
Yeah I can’t see them do marvel approach
finite onyx
Like the attempt to weave something larger scale is admirable through the first three "phases", but you could tell that certain directions just completely hijacked what previous writers were doing
And on some level that succeeded
tall pawn
I do like what James Gunn is doing with his DCU.
finite onyx
Yeah I can’t see them do marvel approach
Sonic?
tall pawn
There's the main stuff but elseworlds still exist for stories that wouldn't fit with the direction the main universe is doing
finite onyx
As in throwing directors at several different movies or just handling the story the same?
obtuse owl
Throwing different directors
finite onyx
There's the main stuff but elseworlds still exist for stories that wouldn't fit ...
Wait I thought Gunn stuff hasn't happened yet
finite onyx
Throwing different directors
Ah alright, was about to say
tall pawn
Wait I thought Gunn stuff hasn't happened yet
The universe hasn't started but this is the plan.
finite onyx
Like one of the strengths the Sonic series has over Marvel is that the writers are the same movie to movie
tall pawn
Stuff like matt reeves the batman or the Joker movies fit into the elseworld label
untold walrus
DC Gunn already losing me when Blue Beetle is getting carried over?
tall pawn
Wasn't that fairly solid?
untold walrus
Idk I stopped caring
Heard it was decent but nothing special
And like why would I want to go out of my way to watch something that’s kinda cookie cutter?
tall pawn
Gives me vibes of superhero stuff in the 2000s from what I remember.
finite onyx
I'd watch it if given the opportunity but I really just want superhero stuff where story matters again
Story mattering in a good way
tall pawn
And while sure, 'why wouldn't you just watch those' but it's something we havent seen in a while
finite onyx
I think most people are actually
untold walrus
I only watched Raimi Spidey stuff so I have no nostalgia for that era of superhero movies
tall pawn
Y'know what nevermind. The point is the DCU setup is a good one
tall pawn
Hell even with the main timeline stuff this is still creator driven, or so he says
untold walrus
I’ll need to see if it’s worth my time instead of I’ll just stick to Reeves Batman and the Joker movies
For DC
tall pawn
Well we won't have to wait long. Superman comes out next year
untold walrus
😴
tall pawn
Oh come on
tall pawn
First proper Superman movie since man of Steel? Probably the first one to get the character since the Christopher reeves one.
finite onyx
One second you have people clamoring for more of a character
The next you're struggling to sell anyone on another
untold walrus
I have no attachment to Superman so I don’t really care
tall pawn
Like if he isn't your thing personally fair enough but this is a pretty big deal
untold walrus
If the movie’s interesting enough I might watch it
manic silo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN5LSHvWiy0&ab_channel=ProsafiaGaming
That YouTube channel name looks familiar
woeful fjord
https://x.com/TailsChannel/status/1782431883541745752
tbf this is highest rating in sonic movie series
vapid slate
https://x.com/TailsChannel/status/1782431883541745752
God I kinda hate this metric because most of the scores for "fresh" reviews are around 6-7 or C+
fossil halo
why does it have a higher score than the movies so far actually
obtuse owl
Debut
proven oriole
why does it have a higher score than the movies so far actually
Basically rotten tometoes has a métric that reduces to
do you like this show?
yes/no
So 83% of the critics it has do like the show
But it also accounts for their grades If any
fossil halo
well it's a good result anyway, can't lie
proven oriole
Or an equivalent of them in case they use a system like stars or other
It would be funny If this is the highest product of the sonic movies
fossil halo
I already see critics playing critics with movie 3, because that storyline is up, down and all around
"you murder a child in a movie with cartoon hedgehogs?"
wide pike
https://x.com/TailsChannel/status/1782431883541745752
the people simply love wade
turbid hull
welcome to the wade cave
proven oriole
finite onyx
Seeing chris discourse because of the Wade news
💀
As if he could ever achieve such a status
cosmic kindle
What kind of Chris discourse?
fossil halo
overshadow the protagonist the character
untold walrus
People hating the Knuckles show for putting more focus on Wade yet glazing X despite it being more about Chris is where the beef is at
haughty lava
Yeah yeah whatever don’t put it on my TL 
untold walrus
Errrm what if I wanna
haughty lava
suffer
vapid slate
People hating the Knuckles show for putting more focus on Wade yet glazing X des...
they just relate to a rich kid more than a cop
🗿
untold walrus
At least it’ll be historically accurate
untold walrus
they just relate to a rich kid more than a cop
A rich kid who wishes his parents were around more over boyfail 30 something cop that finds his inner strength or something
vapid slate
Yes
wise hazel
Critics are predictable, watch the audience score be 10x higher
wise hazel
They seem more hung up on with the screen time of a CGI character then the whole thing
untold walrus
I mean the character that’s in the title isn’t really about him and more about the guy that says the Death Egg Robot is a Stay Puft clone I think people are right to feel disappointed
haughty lava
I mean yeah but like, critics aren’t saying that like tiger’s insinuating lol
literally the majority of current critic reviews are “shame he’s not in it more but this is still pretty neat”, the disappointment is fans
haughty lava
Critics are predictable, watch the audience score be 10x higher
this is just factually untrue lmao
untold walrus
Yeah critics are saying iz aight
proven oriole
I mean, mayorly of what Ive read say its Very fun and charming
cosmic kindle
That is also what I see.
manic silo
you think this could happen in a season 2?
untold walrus
What
cosmic kindle
The major complaint is that Knuckles could've been more prominent.
proven oriole
you think this could happen in a season 2?
Perhaps. Only time will say what happens
haughty lava
Pichu please learn how to make jokes flow better
You can’t just put anything from the camera roll it has to make some sorta sense
untold walrus
Typical Pichu behavior
Always posting nonsense in hopes of it being funny (it never is)
haughty lava
(I am running out of ideas)
Hate 2 say it but we can tell
proven oriole
And the screen time Knuckles has is good all things considered
Like Christopher Nolland's the Dark Knight is 152 minutes, and Bruce Wayne/Batman appears merely in 35 minutes 30 seconds out of said runtime
manic silo
KNUCKLES TRAPPED AND BETRAYED US IN THE ROOM OF SPIRIT AND TIME
haughty lava
he keeps doing it chat
obtuse owl
proven oriole
And the screen time Knuckles has is good all things considered
Like Christopher...
Knuckles appears in aproximately 44% of the series
While bruce wayne/Batman appears in aproximately 23% of the entire movie
manic silo
gotta be a kink
???
proven oriole
Watch shadow has the least amount of appearance in Sonic 3 movie
I mean, Knuckles has the second biggest amount of screen time in sonic 2,just behind sonic
wise hazel
Knuckles is 86% on RT https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/knuckles
manic silo
But hey, at least I don’t have any stupid ideas as this tho so I am safe
haughty lava
no way would my legacy be shirtless Scarlet Spider on here
Your legacy is not knowing how to read a room
Or how to stop sending random unrelated pictures
proven oriole
Heck sonic 2 has sonic, Knuckles, Eggman and tails as the top 4 of the characters with the biggest amount of screen time
haughty lava
Could be worse!! You’ve had worse reputations in the past
proven oriole
In that order
manic silo
Or how to stop sending random unrelated pictures
There is no randomness to my Camera Roll
Just like how there is a color named Apple
obtuse owl
Heck sonic 2 has sonic, Knuckles, Eggman and tails as the top 4 of the character...
Oh yeah of course
I am just saying I don’t think it’s that big of a deal over a tv show
Movies just have way more budget compared to tv shows
proven oriole
Yeah Yeah.
Plus the time thing can be accurate but it felt misleading cause people dont have a reference of How much screen time a protagonist can have within a media
obtuse owl
Agreed
proven oriole
Like now another example.
Kate Bishop in hawkeye appears 1 hour and 50 minute of the entire series (she is the protagonist all things considered)
And the series last 4 hours 9 minutes
It is barely lower than 50% of the entire series. In total she appears aproximately in 44% of the series, same as Knuckles
Basically Knuckles, If the Kotaku article is to be believed, appears as much relative to the run time of the show as Kate Bishop in Hawkeye
obtuse owl
Basically Knuckles, If the Kotaku article is to be believed, appears as much rel...
Exactly
proven oriole
And with my example of the dark knight, Knuckles has nearly twice the amount of screen play relative to the total run time of the entire thing compared to Bruce Wayne/Batman
finite onyx
I don't think many people would be having the issue with this if it was focused on the bad guys like those
Or other characters like the Chaotix
errant steeple
Twitter
civic marlin
What are guys doing
vapid slate
What are guys doing?
proven oriole
What are guys doing
Comparing screen times
Did you know Knuckles appears in his series as much as Kate Bishop does in Hawkeye relative to the total amount of time both series have?
civic marlin
Lmfao
proven oriole
I am not kidding, both appear around 44% of the total series
(in their respective cases)
Sam in the Falcón and the Winter soldier appears around 37% of his series
(98 minutes out of the 265 minutes)
obtuse owl
Nah it’s just how show works
It’s pretty rare to expect a char being like over 60% of the entire show regardless of the amount of episodes
proven oriole
I mean I am just calculating How much time the protagonist has within their own shows
Mind you, Sam is the character with the biggest amount of screen time in Falcon and the Winter soldier
Kate Bishop is the character with the biggest amount of screen play in Hawkeye
vapid slate
I think the problem here tho is that the show's name is just Knuckles
so you would expect the titular title to be the guy
finite onyx
Comparing screen times
Did you know Knuckles appears in his series as much as K...
Wait why are you saying Kate tho
It's called Hawkeye lol
proven oriole
Wait why are you saying Kate tho
She is more so the protagonist of Hawkeye than clint
errant steeple
Marvel sucks lmfao
Henry it sucked when Ant Man 3 released
untold walrus
They’re both Hawkeye
finite onyx
Ok but here it'd be Wade that'd be the protagonist
proven oriole
Yes, but the show focuses more on Kate than Clint particularily (again, Clint has the second most amount of screen time in the show so he has like a few minutes less than Kate)
20 minutes less than Kate
errant steeple
Ok but here it'd be Wade that'd be the protagonist
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Wade
proven oriole
Id have to see How the show frames this and How much time Wade has but the screen time given to Knuckles is enough for the protagonist to be in.
Or a more recent example, Loki In Loki season 2 appears in 41% of the entirety of the season, a total of 105 minutes out of 257
The thing was more about Kotaku giving the screen time data without using any reference for other series, this was probably on purpose to frame Knuckles total screentime as worse than it actually is
As, as shown in these examples, he appears as much, If not more, than some of the protagonists of the series fine by the MCU
finite onyx
Oh boy
They said several minutes during the last three eps, that's Sonic X syndrome not Marvel
proven oriole
Or the screen time within the own series as they didnt give Wade's screen time either to do the comparison
proven oriole
They said several minutes during the last three eps, that's Sonic X syndrome not...
I just use the mcu series as a reference to the total screen time relative to the appearance of the character
How it is done within the series I will not talk about until I get to watch it as Right now I only work with descriptions that differ depending of the intent of the writer
finite onyx
Most people seem fine with the amount of screentime Knuckles gets in the first episodes
It's the last three and the rushed conclusion to his story that's alledgedly the problem
civic marlin
Twitter
proven oriole
Yeah but again, I wish to see that to see what was the flaw there by myself.
But I just say that the run time Knuckles has is not the problem on itself
civic marlin
this is fucking nuts btw
I know its gonna get lower
But starting this high is crazy
proven oriole
Otherwise, bruce wayne/Batman would be more absent of his own movie, appearing in merely 23% of it (Dark Knight by Christopher Nolland)
proven oriole
this is fucking nuts btw
Currently its at 86 If I recall correctly
untold walrus
I suppose it doesn’t matter how long a character appears in something it’s how you use em
proven oriole
Exactly
civic marlin
Yep
proven oriole
Framing it on the run time is misleading
civic marlin
And it seems ig knuckles is used well?
woeful fjord
https://x.com/TailsChannel/status/1782431883541745752
it went higher
finite onyx
First Sonic series over 90 LETS GOOOOOOO
woeful fjord
nah but like fr this is probably one of the highest rated sonic media of all time
woeful fjord
yea it would probably gonna go down but i think its still gonna get high scores
civic marlin
I was expecting 60s
The fact it is HIGH 8 for now at least is almost absurd
Specially with the numerous complaints
cosmic kindle
Ok but here it'd be Wade that'd be the protagonist
Wade & Knuckles™️?
errant steeple
it went higher
Can we get much higher?
wide pike
it went higher
the wade show is the first thing in the sonic movie universe to get an 8 to near 9
ik it won’t stay like this but it’s funny
proven oriole
Can we get much higher?
wide pike
the wade piece
vapid slate
It's cool that there's a lot more people going "yeah I enjoyed it", but like, you can get some bum-ass movie to 100% even if the actual score everyone gave is around 6
I know I'm being a bit of a negative nancy ruining the parade, but please
wide pike
please what 😭
vapid slate
please be reasonable
wide pike
?
vapid slate
and read the actual reviews
civic marlin
Please stop making the wade show sound good
But well
If you say that that means sonic 1 and 2 just got trashy scores
wide pike
I had just said i know it won’t stay like this but I just found it funny
finite onyx
They should make Sonic 3 wade focused
wide pike
I feel like that implies I know it won’t be an 8-9 type of show
vapid slate
If you say that that means sonic 1 and 2 just got trashy scores
I checked Sonic 2 on RT, the average score was also a 6 for that movie
finite onyx
Guarenteed Wademillion tickets
obtuse owl
I am just surprised to see Knuckles series being this high really
wide pike
So idk who you’re referring to when talking about being reasonable
cosmic kindle
They should make Sonic 3 wade focused
Call in Nidio.
vapid slate
So idk who you’re referring to when talking about being reasonable
You literally said the show got an 8 to a 9, when that's not the average score
civic marlin
I just find high scores to be amusing
On rotten tomatoes
Even if its not
How exactly works
vapid slate
That's what I mean by misrepresenting the score
errant steeple
the wade piece
THE WADE PIECE IS REAAAAL
civic marlin
What was it
untold walrus
It’s all a dream maaaaaan
civic marlin
|| and doesnt matter at all||
wide pike
You literally said the show got an 8 to a 9, when that's not the average score
I really don’t know what to tell you if didn’t realize that was a bit
proven oriole
Hm Sergi doesn't elaborate much on the context so I cannot say for sure. It does matter in the great scheme of the series, but not sure if I can answer the hallucination part
obtuse owl
||Honestly it's very hard to believe Pacahamac being actually alive, but I am very interested to see why is he even there||
vapid slate
h--in what way was it a bit??????
civic marlin
It was a bit of like getting impressed by the scores lmfao
Like we all know how RT works
Its different
obtuse owl
^
proven oriole
||According to Sergi, Pachacamac appears to Knuckles saying that his journey as a warrior must continue by training a weakling, forming them into a proper warrior||
civic marlin
||According to Sergi, Pachacamac appears to Knuckles saying that his journey as ...
||Aaand thats it||
obtuse owl
And right now it's currently the third highest video game adaptation (beaten only by Last of Us and Fallout) I believe
wide pike
I literally called it the wade show lmao
obtuse owl
||According to Sergi, Pachacamac appears to Knuckles saying that his journey as ...
||AYO!?||
proven oriole
||Aaand thats it||
||At least, that's at first. I am not sure as I haven't continued his review lol||
wide pike
we all know its not going to stay like that and that RT is not a good source for accuracy when it comes to how good something is
obtuse owl
||NAH THAT'S WAY BETTER THAN I THOUGHT!||
wide pike
I just made a bit that it was higher than the movies
It kinda sucks that I have to explain it lol
woeful fjord
the wade show is the first thing in the sonic movie universe to get an 8 to near...
#wadesweep
vapid slate
y'know what, whatever
finite onyx
||According to Sergi, Pachacamac appears to Knuckles saying that his journey as ...
O-oh
woeful fjord
hes done it again
civic marlin
Its not that serious guys lmao
finite onyx
||what does this mean for my lima bean bet....||
wide pike
#wadesweep
in the end it will only be wade
wide pike
Its not that serious guys lmao
im not taking it seriously but like
woeful fjord
i will be there no matter what
wide pike
again i have to ask, is it not clear when im making a joke 😭
civic marlin
It is clear
wide pike
this is the 2nd time something like this happened
civic marlin
More clear than i do personally
Someone always gets upset for something i say when i didnt meant to come across that way
vapid slate
again i have to ask, is it not clear when im making a joke 😭
It's not really clear because a lot of people use the metric as an actual score unironically
When it's not
wide pike
maybe fizzle will start his tone indicators arc
civic marlin
I mean sometimes it helps when you are not really sure
It doesnt have to be for everything ofc
proven oriole
I checked the full review of Sergi, it's merely on the first four episodes. He doesn't elaborate ||more on Pachacamac, it's fair since he just checks the series in a general sense here rather than doing an elaborate script for the review||
finite onyx
We'll find out soon enough
proven oriole
He enjoyed it a lot, more than he expected it
civic marlin
Well, i feel hes gonna just be knuckles consicene for that one scene and never again
woeful fjord
maybe fizzle will start his tone indicators arc
civic marlin
And thats the christopher lloyd budget
obtuse owl
Well, i feel hes gonna just be knuckles consicene for that one scene and never a...
I am fine with that honestly
I would have prefer pacahamac not appearing constantly since it'll wore out it's welcome
wide pike
To be serious for a second i am actually a wade enjoyer so i will be getting enjoyment out of this to some level
But it still stinks that the show named knuckles doesn’t have a lot of, knuckles
At least that’s what most if not all of these reviews make it look like
civic marlin
I mean
75 minutes of knuckles is quite a lo of knuckles lmaooo
Its more than an hour of knuckles
Thats way more time than the enjoyment i got from sonic prime
wide pike
I don’t mean actual runtime 😭
obtuse owl
That's still very good amount of screentime
wide pike
I just meant him being the primary focus
Most reviews are like “wade, wade, wade, oh and knuckles was there too”
errant steeple
wide pike
.
do you ever just
get a sudden moment of clarity and question what the fuck you’re even talking about
finite onyx
that's when I go off the grid
do some soul searching
maybe sit on a log in a forest for a bit
wide pike
im in a reality where I’m complaining about Knuckles not being as prominent as some guy named Wade
proven oriole
Most reviews are like “wade, wade, wade, oh and knuckles was there too”
I mean, it probably is more because wade becomes more prominent as the series goes along rather than Knuckles not appearing as much
as I calculated before, Knuckles has as much screen time as Kate Bishop in Hawkeye relative to their respective series' runtimes
woeful fjord
im in a reality where I’m complaining about Knuckles not being as prominent as s...
wade is better than knuckles im ngl
proven oriole
(If the Kotaku article is to be believed, at least)
finite onyx
Most reviews are like “wade, wade, wade, oh and knuckles was there too”
Are "most reviews" just Kotaku?
woeful fjord
ok gn guys
finite onyx
Gnb eckoh
shut locust
https://x.com/sonicmovie/status/1782454373408440672?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXc...
oh look they did the thing
errant steeple
Hmmmmm do I
shut locust
also quite a few people on Twitter are thinking this hints at a trailer for 3 releasing this Friday alongside the series, i both doubt that is the case and think that it's gonna happen at the same time somehow
civic marlin
Gn bacon
proven oriole
civic marlin
Where is the main character
finite onyx
Yeah
civic marlin
I see only a secondary
This is like The Legend of Zelda
Link's Awakening
Or Majoras Mask
Thats the amount of zelda there is
finite onyx
Never played those games 
wide pike
Are "most reviews" just Kotaku?
chokes you
wide pike
truthfully I didn’t look at kotaku’s 😭
finite onyx
jelp...
wide pike
I read some of the others
finite onyx
Ah alright
shut locust
https://fxtwitter.com/Sonic1News/status/1782469690494943404
Knuckles, that's a funny way of saying Wade
proven oriole
I read various of them. The only one that I had issue with, and the one that made me do the calculations thing, was Kotaku's
finite onyx
Alright but they're not the only ones who describe an issue with Knuckles
vapid slate
There's been multiple reviews that say "not enough Knuckles in a Knuckles show"
finite onyx
That's how it sounded earlier
vapid slate
Gameinformer (Brian Shea) had that problem, that other person that wants to create the Wade fan club said there's not enough Knuckles
Gamespot - same thing (while also saying it's an endearing family comedy)
proven oriole
Yeah, not arguing against that. Just that the kotaku one in particular tried to frame it on the total runtime of Knuckles appearance. It comes from Wade taking the protagonism in episode 4
vapid slate
Gamesradar: " Despite what the title suggests, this is less Knuckles and more Wade Whipple: The Series at times. It’s likely a budget constraint – though the CGI we do get is a confident trial run for Sonic 3 – and the series can’t help but feel a little empty when the echidna glides off stage for more Whipple family drama."
So yeah, there's a bunch of reviews that say this
shut locust
proven oriole
My thing was more on how using the total runtime of Knuckles in here can frame it in a way that may mislead folks into thinking it is way bigger than it actually is
rather than how his appearance is distributed across the series
civic marlin
It seems that in the last three episodes knuckles just stays away for a bit
And he reappears at the end
proven oriole
Because again, Knuckles in his series has twice the amount of screentime compared to Bruce Wayne/Batman in the Dark Knight relative to their respective runtimes, and yet there isn't a real criticism of the bat feeling absent for the movie altogether
shut locust
if we gain access to alt universes in my lifetime, i'm instantly snabbing a Sonic 2 DVD copy from a universe where they kept that voice for Knuckles
proven oriole
It seems that in the last three episodes knuckles just stays away for a bit
Kotaku does say that Knuckles appears at the very end of episode 4, where Wade gets kidnapped and he has to save himself
finite onyx
Wade SWEEEEP
civic marlin
Chris vs Wade omg
To be fair
Chris had a LOT of screentime
In sonic x
More than some people care to admit
spark wind
Why is there Chris vs Wade discourse...
proven oriole
Why is there Chris vs Wade discourse...
Both have this little theme of being more prominent in a Sonic-related series than people would like
civic marlin
Who is the better human that takes the spotlight
wide pike
does Wade have a better design than Chris
shut locust
yes, Chris looks ugly af, Wade is chad
civic marlin
finite onyx
Wade is built better
civic marlin
I like his hairdo
finite onyx
Built different
finite onyx
I like his hairdo
Sora's?
spark wind
https://tenor.com/view/sonic2-wade-sonic-agent-stone-what-would-you-like-on-your...
What would he look like if he was in ShTH
finite onyx
civic marlin
Chris is just straight sora
wide pike
remember when people were speculating rouge would be here
finite onyx
True
civic marlin
I dont like it
shut locust
remember when people were speculating rouge would be here
yeah, those were good times
civic marlin
remember when people were speculating rouge would be here
Lol
Lmao even
Lmfao perhaps
Honestly for some reason
obtuse owl
tbh, chris or wade, doesn’t matter
agent stone clears both by a mile, they should’ve made the spin-off about him 🔥
shut locust
i also remember when i was in my copium phase and was like "AMY'S TOTALLY GONNA BE IN KNUCKLES SERIES"
civic marlin
I feel rouge chances of being in sonic 3 kinda
Went up a bit lmfaooooo
Amy as well
Idk why
civic marlin
What
Idk in how knuckles series is very human centric
It feels sonic 3 is gonna be the opposite
proven oriole
I think it's because the series can be lower stakes
and focus on the people
while the movies, as they said, will be the avengers-type events
so the sonic element will be more prominent on those
and the over the top stuff
this is not to say the series will lack of those
as said in various reviews, it has very good action too
it's just not the focus
civic marlin
But yea i feel sonic 3 is gonna b for the fans
Knuckles series is more so expanding the original movie universe
proven oriole
Yeah
proven oriole
A review did say that Knuckles can feel like Sonic 2.5 at times
civic marlin
The whole thing 50 years ago
proven oriole
The whole thing 50 years ago
Plus the series also seems to be very inconsecuential in terms of the greater universe , but I think it's good
haughty lava
Just occurred to me, all these arguments about the percentage of knuckles in the knuckles show
…scott pilgrim lol
wise hazel
What about the world building, surely this series have something to prepare for Sonic 3? I do recall that GUN will be a major part of this universe
haughty lava
that mf barely in his own show and it was a fuckin banger
errant steeple
Ignore me
proven oriole
that mf barely in his own show and it was a fuckin banger
Oh yeah, I did hear he gets killed or something
errant steeple
I’m an idiot
haughty lava
numbers do not matter, it’s about how good the stuff is not the raw ingredients and grams
wise hazel
Stuff happens, and GUN will be there to collect things
finite onyx
numbers do not matter, it’s about how good the stuff is not the raw ingredients ...
Jane becoming a Sonic X Sonic fan confirmed
wise hazel
Like SHIELD
finite onyx
A Sonic X truther
vital eagle
I hear some reviewers lightly teaching on emotional beats in the show (knuckles and wade alike) but they never really elaborate.
Which ig, is fair. Not everyone is trying to spill
wise hazel
I heard the show described as a road trip comedy, something that the first Sonic Movie was
haughty lava
Jane becoming a Sonic X Sonic fan confirmed
Im more a Sonadow kinda gal but sure I could make that work somehow
errant steeple
Who’s got that one video https://fixupx.com/rottentomatoes/status/1782461649036648530?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ
lyric willow
https://theplaylist.net/knuckles-review-sonic-spin-off-sidelines-the-main-character-revealing-limitations-of-franchise-tv-20240422/ you can already tell this guy won't like movie 3 lol
From just the first paragraph
lyric willow
If you don't give view then I will wnd up giving a second view to screenshot it
So gib view
It's a futile struggle
lyric willow
Ah yes, the primary colors: Blue, Red and Orange.
lyric willow
Why do you think hes gonna dislike sonic 3
Read what it says and think how this will apply to Sonic 3
finite onyx
He became yellow over time it's fine
civic marlin
"Light charming escapes"
lyric willow
That's still not primary
civic marlin
I dont get it
vapid slate
Okay, I got it. You're saying because Sonic 3 might get into more serious backgrounds, he might hate it because it might be less funny or whatever
vital eagle
I’m most hyped for the needle drop fight sequences that every reviewer so far has said is a highlight in the series
civic marlin
Ehh
I dont think its gonna be that drastic of a change
Even though i feel some reviews are not gonna take shadows trauma seriously
lyric willow
Okay, I got it. You're saying because Sonic 3 might get into more serious backgr...
Yes
civic marlin
I dont think its gonna be as drastic of a shift in tone than we want to think
Nor it will be similar to shadows backstory in the games
But i guess i can see that
autumn crypt
Oh yeah depending on how 3 shakes out this type of person might hate the third one
tall pawn
that mf barely in his own show and it was a fuckin banger
Granted I think some people just felt REALLY mislead no matter how good it was
and with the knuckles show...you're expecting a knuckles show
autumn crypt
Okay, I got it. You're saying because Sonic 3 might get into more serious backgr...
Less of a "disposable distraction" and more, thing you kind of have to pay attention to enjoy the plot
errant steeple
I love how people are complaining about Knuckles barely in the show… this is a straight to streaming show with lower budget of the films lol
proven oriole
and with the knuckles show...you're expecting a **knuckles** show
Just like people expected Scott Pilgrim in a Scott Pilgrim show tbf
civic marlin
I hope we get more Scott Pilgrim stuff
tall pawn
I think Brian's probably done with it, atleast for a long while.
Would be cool to get another game, maybe not a beat em up this time
plucky stirrup
wouldn't mind a fighting game
wide pike
Twitter
wide pike
seems like pat casey isn’t involved
wide pike
Who wrote the series
we’ll find out soon enough
wise hazel
RT score went up a bit.
tall pawn
Yeah we'll know who to harass soon :))
vapid slate
https://x.com/gamekidsfran/status/1782483324436373935?s=46
Makes sense, he was more than likely busy with the movie
proven oriole
John Whittington is credited as the screen writer
he has worked in stuff like the Lego Batman movie
and Lego Ninjago movie
wide pike
wow that’s a jarring difference 😭
proven oriole
he also co-wrote for Sonic 2 and will Co-write for Sonic 3
proven oriole
John is credited as the creator of the show so it was probable that he wanted to do the show while Pat Casey and Josh Miller focused on Sonic 3
proven oriole
John is credited as the creator of the show so it was probable that he wanted to...
Of course, John and them were coordinating so whatever they do didn't contradict eachother
obtuse owl
I mean he has to be mostly work with movie 3 anyways
wise hazel
So anyone gonna volunteer to host a watch party of Knuckles this weekend?
Provided that your internet is good.
turbid hull
my internet is not
wise hazel
I thought about it while at work, But my internet is 300Mbps Down 20Mbps Up
proven oriole
wise hazel
Because I have to take into account that I would be streaming both ways, Streaming the show and streaming it over discord, I don't know how it would hold up.
vapid slate
My internet's good, but
- I don't have Paramount+, and
- I don't know if it's gonna be available day 1 as part of a sub I have that also has some stuff from Paramount+
haughty lava
does P+ let you download episodes to watch later? may help to ease the load
wise hazel
My upload is only 20Mbps, and I don't know what the limits are in streaming discord video, Since it doesn't really have settings for changing the bitrate.
vapid slate
My internet's good, but
1) I don't have Paramount+, and
2) I don't know if it's ...
that 2nd point is important because they do release some stuff day 1, like the season 2 of the Halo show
wise hazel
when streaming on paramount, you'll get the full HD quality depending on the device, My monitor is 1440p, So I don't know if it does a 1440p stream in a browser.
I have dual monitors, So I could have it stream on the second monitor which is 1080p.
Also capturing the audio, you would have to set discord to capture the PC's audio and not your mic, and I would have to mute the incoming audio so that it doesn't cause a feedback loop
Btw Paramount does not have a download option
It streams into the browser, So what you would have to do is screenshare one of the monitors, and you full screen that one
wise hazel
Found this article on how to do it https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360040816151-Go-Live-and-Screen-Share
vital eagle
https://www.youtube.com/live/FeLVr89OGTw?si=WePjk7SmBBSgWyfF
No spoilers, but this is maybe the most positive outlook in terms of the show from 2 folks that went in without expectations and with expectations as a fan of the franchise.
If anyone wants to take a break from the doomposting on twitter lol
Episode 4 is THE episode. Like pure franchise combustion of sonic dopamine apparently
It really only seems like folks that don’t know stuff abt the franchise perceive what episode 4 does as a waste of time.
wise hazel
It says here that all users can stream up to 720p 30fps, but those paying for nitro classic can stream at 1080p 60fps, and nitro at 4k 60fps
720p streaming is good enough, doesn't use too much bandwidth
Im gonna do a test
Screen sharing lets you choose the app, and you can select the browser
by moving the browser to the second monitor, playing a video on plex and full screen it, It shows the full video on the stream
Gonna run a little test on in one of the voice call room, and gonna play something from plex, I have no way of knowing if the audio from plex is coming through
sinful orchid
Who wrote the series
Multiple writers:
Episodes 1, 2, and 6 were written by John Whittington
Episodes 3 and 5 were written by Brian Schacter
Episode 4 was written by James Madejski
errant steeple
wise hazel
Ok, Gonna test the screensharing.
Doing a test now
I need somebody to go in there and tell me if they hear audio from what's playing
haughty lava
I need somebody to go in there and tell me if they hear audio from what's playin...
yea I hear it
wise hazel
ok, that's good
I was playing directly from my plex server which is playing from a file, So I wonder how it will work with streaming video
All I had to do was share the browser, and then full screen on the second monitor
For Friday, We need to choose a time to stream, I don't know if I work that day or not, I was thinking maybe like 8pm or 9pm EST
This will be for people who don't have a paramount+ subscription, and those who don't have paramount+ in other regions.
Knuckles is trending right now.
obtuse owl
wise hazel
If I stream knuckles in the chat, I'll have to eat dinner and all that stuff before I do, Normally I ear way before 8pm
But there is also the possibility I have to go to the bathroom for a minute, Has anyone ever hosted a watch party, and the host had to pause the video to go to the bathroom for a sec?