#Sonic Origins
sacred lotus
kind lintel
fri day
fringe verge
quick marsh
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1670823890237657088?s=46&t=52yR2vVNtD6...
Excuse me I'm going to bang my head against the wall for the next 5 hours while screaming at the top of my lungs
granite lichen
Why
quick marsh
No particular reason
Well except for the fact that is yet another reminder of how they're treating Metal Sonic
granite lichen
??
kind lintel
it's literally just art 
kind lintel
yeah, metal sonic is designed to be destroyed lol
lost quail
He’s always meant to be a jobber
wintry mauve
yeah what the fuck lol ?
kind lintel
not even the official broadcast gbgbgbgbgbgbgbg
just get fadel to show shit next time
fast magnet
that's raw af ngl
granite lichen
not even the official broadcast gbgbgbgbgbgbgbg
Ig it was supposed to be a surprise
wintry mauve
sonic 3 audio still sounds muffled <:SonicShrug:325059289033211904>
why the fuck is it muffled man
ive ignored origins like completely so im not aware of all the issues
granite lichen
Btw, it might be debatable but the Amy dlc feels really underappreciated
pure flare
Sadly it will be cuz they just gave no shits about plus
kind lintel
Ig it was supposed to be a surprise
it rubbed people the wrong way so wouldn't say it succeeded
kind lintel
why the fuck is it muffled man
ive heard its something going wrong with how origins plays the sounds back for 3
because the recordings are just fine apparently
doesn't affect 1 cd or 2 much
valid narwhal
amy thought she was THAT guy
She IS that guy
lost quail
She is that guy AND better
floral stratus
Okay this is dope
pure flare
Amy's sprites look really good
valid narwhal
I feel bad for wanting origins plus more just for amy 😭
pure flare
Id say even a bit toooo good lmao
fast magnet
Amy's sprites look really good
erm, alchually it uses more than the original 16 colors so urm 🤓
shell yoke
and then the:
lost quail
I'd say Colors Ultimate is more hated but Origins def deserves some big criticisms
shell yoke
https://twitter.com/SamsProStation/status/1670829858031583233?t=aicWTGiV27-TjG02...
Inb4 someone calls him a shill because he worked on speed strats and got frontiers early
pure flare
Origins deserves criticism but its
F i n e
robust whale
https://twitter.com/SamsProStation/status/1670829858031583233?t=aicWTGiV27-TjG02...
i just wonder what people he had in mind when he decided this needed to be posted
robust whale
Origins deserves criticism but its
F i n e
honestly
at the end of the day, they are nickel and diming us for a subpar retro collection
pure flare
It 6/10
robust whale
its like
robust whale
death by a thousand papercuts and then you have shitty pricing on top of all that
it doesn't sit well with me at all
pure flare
It does the bare minimum, which is have these games playable in widescreen
robust whale
i didn't buy it because i felt that it should've been a lot better for how much they were asking
robust whale
It does the bare minimum, which is have these games playable in widescreen
right so
bare minimum
maximum asking price
where have we seen this behavior before
nintendo, rockstar games, etc
robust whale
im not trying to make you hate it LOL
restive mulch
Origins is nowhere near as fucking bad as what Rockstar did, come on
pure flare
I know
robust whale
but i think my general distate for it is justified
robust whale
Origins is nowhere near as fucking bad as what Rockstar did, come on
the end result isn't as bad, no
granite lichen
its not
robust whale
but the behavior is comparable
granite lichen
gta trilogy was a mess since day one tho and it still gets patched to this day
restive mulch
The behaviour would be comparable if Origins was 60
robust whale
Outside of Kirby has there been any collections that are good?
like, in video games in general?
floral stratus
Yeah
floral stratus
They count
restive mulch
KH collections are good, but they also had some real weird stuff initially
robust whale
true, but they got patched within like, what
a week or so?
referring to the ps4 versions
the collections on ps3 sucked but i think that was more because of the ps3 being the ps3
with those unacceptable load times
granite lichen
Outside of Kirby has there been any collections that are good?
I would say ezio trilogy was good from assassins creed but its devised among the fans because the 2nd game graphics changed a little bit which made people think its bad remaster and shit like that when in reality it was just an specific npc that looked really bad lmao, it was mostly just ac2 the rest of the games seemed to be fine
tribal wave
What is that
floral stratus
Ah okay thanks
devout raft
Outside of Kirby has there been any collections that are good?
The last 2 megaman collections were quite good
The Classic and X ones have some nitpicks that some avid megaman fans fucking hate but from an outsider perspective they are also more or less fine
lost quail
When SEGa wanted to go AAA with Sonic now, shouldve expected they do the shitty things with that as well
shell yoke
We better get damn good games in return
Companies like Nintendo can get away with this because they also churn out banger games from their main IPs
pure flare
Superstarsis the excuse i guess
shell yoke
https://twitter.com/littleplanetcd/status/1670889867432062981?s=46 found this in my tl
quick elbow
pretty neat nod!
...I wish they'd actually included Sonic the Fighters on here tho lol
if they could squeeze it into lost judgement they absolutely could've gotten it in here
vagrant spindle
https://twitter.com/littleplanetcd/status/1670889867432062981?s=46 found this in...
This shit again?
robust whale
unblock the code homie
pure flare
The code expires?!
pure flare
BUT THATS SO SOON
robust whale
2033 is soon?
pure flare
.
kind lintel
it's not that soon
robust whale
What timeline are you living in
robust whale
Gn henry
kind lintel
let's see if sonic origins is still their recommended choice for playing the classics 10 years later
lost quail
Another certified Henry moment
valid narwhal
https://vxtwitter.com/stagefatality/status/1670836826716643329?s=46&t=hEzBjG7J1D...
This is true
Even as a big fighters fan I didn't realize that's practically an old move-
marsh pilot
erm, alchually it uses more than the original 16 colors so urm 🤓
but that is valid
marsh pilot
https://twitter.com/SamsProStation/status/1670829858031583233?t=aicWTGiV27-TjG02...
makes excuse of multiple buttons to try and defend sega
the game itself contradicts that
shell yoke
Crazy how you did almost exactly what I said would happen
floral stratus
Thinking Origins Plus hate is overkill = Defending SEGA of course.
lost quail
And who wants to do that?
kind lintel
restive mulch
Those sure were 5 minutes of a person trying to Perfect the special stage only for them to either miss an orb or just fail
But they did it at the end so it's fine
wind verge
Outside of Kirby has there been any collections that are good?
Mega Man and Castlevania
well, anything Capcom.
They just put out really good collections.
The SNK arcade collections and the ports
Like Metal Slug and KOF get arcade vers on stores
now, they don't have training mode, but it's still solid.
kind lintel
shell yoke
How has he kept this going for this long
kind lintel
just noticed the background is red mountain from sonic blast lol
kind lintel
How has he kept this going for this long
deep seated love for blast that's for sure
lost quail
just noticed the background is red mountain from sonic blast lol
RED VOLCANO
granite lichen
Crazy how you did almost exactly what I said would happen
💀
quartz grotto
erm, alchually it uses more than the original 16 colors so urm 🤓
I might be the only one that thinks Amy using more than the 16 colors makes sense given her debut was not on the Genesis, but on the Sega CD
lost quail
wrong game
floral stratus
I might be the only one that thinks Amy using more than the 16 colors makes sens...
Honestly agreed
granite lichen
wrong game
The hammers
pure flare
I miss you my love
wintry mauve
miss you too
pure flare
miss you too
valid narwhal
https://fxtwitter.com/stagefatality/status/1670836826716643329?t=-GJjzKk6PaaR-mv...
Posted before
:trolley:
but yea very cool
granite lichen
floral stratus
bro Amy gave no fucks over that first boss's bumper LMAO
If it also ignores spikes too, then it's 100% over from death egg robot
pure flare
They should have made this the first thing we saw from plus
floral stratus
wait hold up. Did Amy just completely ignored the bubbles?
pure flare
Yea
floral stratus
Fucking amazing LMFAO
fringe verge
and people said Amy was useless
cedar crow
eat your heart out Advance 2 Cream
fringe verge
when she destroys the bosses rather easily
cedar crow
can't wait for Amy speedruns
vagrant spindle
eat your heart out Advance 2 Cream
no
Cream can stay on top
provided they don't fuck up Amy's super form
which they would
floral stratus
Nah Cream is still most broken because projectile
Amy has to closed in
not counting super/hyper of course
pure flare
||amy has projectiles... as super||
granite lichen
Part of me feels like all the Amy hate was just because of shitty gameplay ngl 😭
shell yoke
https://fxtwitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1671213321880748032
Looked in the qrts and of course people are taking this post seriously
tribal wave
I can't really understand when some people say that these sprites are bad
tribal wave
Looked in the qrts and of course people are taking this post seriously
Also yeah those comments are so dumb, like obviously it's not supposed to be taken seriously
vagrant spindle
Part of me feels like all the Amy hate was just because of shitty gameplay ngl �...
can't wait for people to actually play as her and find out if she's ass or good
because them shaming Mighty and Ray fans over this would have a hilarious outcome if she is actually worse than the two of them combined
granite lichen
Mighty was fine but ray was really shite
pure flare
Wha?????
granite lichen
Even so both of them are kinda meh in mania because the level design was not built for them
granite lichen
But their moveset are nice specially mighty cuz he can survive the spikes
pure flare
The level design is not the most appropriate for him but your can cheese and save yourself a ton with proper timing and precision
shell yoke
Mighty was fine but ray was really shite
nah fuck you !
ray is way more fun to play than mighty imo
pure flare
Mighty is kinda dumb imo, his stomp just destroys momentum
Is not fun at all
And you cant even badnik bounce
granite lichen
nah fuck you !
pure flare
Mighty is honestly bad
I dont get peoples appreciation for just the fact hes invulnerable to spikes
His stomp is terrible
Ray uses momentum and has a learning curve
granite lichen
The stomp is meh but the spikes is a win win
Ray flying can be fun in some stages but in my experience I only found him useful in 3 stages
Both are fine, just the level design doesn't work for them that's all
pure flare
I dont really see the point of spikes aside making things easier for newcomers
granite lichen
Can be helpful when you don't know where you're landing
robust whale
Looked in the qrts and of course people are taking this post seriously
how do you take it seriously
shell yoke
take a peek 
granite lichen
Yikes
floral stratus
Ray is more of utilizing the gimmick
That's about it
Mighty is the worst one overall
valid narwhal
I also like how this edit makes her look like this unstoppable force of nature l...
She is, I suppose
Funny big and strong hammer goes brr
fringe verge
Yeah. Just in the edit is more evident (yet again,it's an edit of very well done gameplay)
floral stratus
Hm, how interesting.
People worry about Amy being rewritten to always being competent and strong from the beginning because of a silly video posted by the social team.
When, the mainline game, literally has a piece of content that explicitly states that she’s grown since her first appearance.
tribal wave
Sonic fans on Twitter don't have much media literacy
robust whale
can't be that bad
nvm these people are annoying as fuck
shell yoke
LMAO
granite lichen
💀
floral stratus
The more time passes by, the clearer something becomes to me.
Whenever something pretty dumb is circling around the community before Frontiers released, there were people going “wow, frontiers needs to come out, sonic fans are getting crazyyyy”.
robust whale
silly goofy girlpower amy trailer
fucking showerless nerds: "Erm, does her SA1 character arc just not matter?? Why are they rewriting her?"
floral stratus
But no, lol. That’s simply how things are, game or no game. In some cases, it feels like the more frequent content is making this worse.
Doesn’t have a lot to do with Origins but just a thought.
robust whale
the responses make it seem like they almost feel threatened by the trailer
pretty sad methinks
pure flare
This is just marketing for the game
shell yoke
>silly goofy girlpower amy trailer
fucking showerless nerds: "Erm, does her SA1...
it's just a trailer
granite lichen
I wouldn't call it girl power even, Amy ain't the girl in trouble anymore
pure flare
Like she was a damsel in distress in the original 1993 version of sonic cd
shell yoke
There's literally nothing to worry about 😭
granite lichen
Yeah
robust whale
lmao, the fact that im actually defending something origins-related is a good sign that something's up 💀
floral stratus
Lol.
floral stratus
When, the mainline game, literally has a piece of content that explicitly states...
In a nutshell Sonic just basically inspired Amy to be more independent
tribal wave
"but erm, im still worried"
Tails when he's playable in Sonic 3: "oh so his character arc in Adventure doesn't count anymore?"
robust whale
Tails when he's playable in Sonic 3: "oh so his character arc in Adventure doesn...
Sonic twitter when Tails is playable in Frontiers: “Oh so that whole thing about him being a bitch from Unleashed to Forces just didn’t happen??”
floral stratus
What’s funnier is that there are people who wished that was never brought up and that he was suddenly like normal again.
tribal wave
Knuckles being playable in Sonic 2: "oh so him trusting Eggman in Sonic 3 just didn't happen?"
quick elbow
Tails when he's playable in Sonic 3: "oh so his character arc in Adventure doesn...
Damn I wonder why these complaints are happening for specifically Amy and not anyone else with arcs later
must be some kinda, femililar reason why, on the tip of my tongue
robust whale
maybe because it’s unprecedented
like
back when tails and knuckles were made retroactively playable, the fandom was a bit different and didn’t give a shit
but Amy being made playable now is a big deal
whole landscape is different
tribal wave
What’s funnier is that there are people who wished that was never brought up and...
That's what we call: giving a shit about the canon unless it's something I dislike
formal rapids
https://fxtwitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1671213321880748032
would be funny if they kept the amy cutscene in cd whilst you play as amy
knuckles and knuckles type beat
fringe verge
would be funny if they kept the amy cutscene in cd whilst you play as amy
POV: You play super mario galaxy as luigi
shell yoke
formal rapids
i forget how the answer to my question of "why wasnt this shit in base game??" could be "it was, sega just likes rushing shit out"
anyway i think there's merit to this but i wont hold my breath
granite lichen
would makes sense if amy was planned for the main release and not dlc
floral stratus
I am fine with Amy's case since she was never playable at all
So she really got screwed due to time constraint alone
shell yoke
https://twitter.com/thekevstermania/status/1671195943503380480?s=46
Twitter
floral stratus
Thanks tyson 
quartz grotto
https://twitter.com/tyson_hesse/status/1671301477560909824?s=46 nvm
This is why you ask people for their sources. I knew that person was wrong when they didn't post their source as proof
vagrant spindle
https://twitter.com/tyson_hesse/status/1671301477560909824?s=46 nvm
Pffft
So the Ending Animation for Origins was meant to tie into Superstars
Interesting
spice wigeon
they are really trying (since Mania) to connect stuff, anyway this was done in a generic way, maybe it was on purpose because I had no idea it was a set up for a new classic game
valid narwhal
they are really trying (since Mania) to connect stuff, anyway this was done in a...
Yea they are connecting it
I like it
(if you ignore that in superstars people are saying it's an alternative dimension for some reason now)
sacred lotus
Sonic Origins Plus review roundup:
PlayStation Universe – 9/10
Sports Illustrated – 8/10
Escapist – 8/10
Press Start Australia – 8/10
The Mako Reactor – 7.5/10 (4/5)
Sonic Stadium – 4/5
CGMagazine – 7/10
Metacritic – N/A
OpenCritic – N/A
pure flare
Bleh, still feels bad then
granite lichen
No way, they actually fixed origins!?
pure flare
A few of em
granite lichen
10/10
pure flare
Not the music
granite lichen
Meh
pure flare
Which makes me really sad
granite lichen
The drop dash lock was a big issue
Music if it's from sonic 3 is not really something it can be" fix"
tribal wave
Oh so when Amy drop dashes, instead of rolling, she just swings her hammer on the ground
tribal wave
That's kinda cool
wintry mauve
Hyper Amy still robbed of after images
fringe verge
Also Amy has double jump apparentely
pure flare
Where is it then??
granite lichen
The leaked footage was not the update
fringe verge
Where is it then??
granite lichen
People would end up looking like a clown 💀
granite lichen
Oh
Looks like that double jump is barely noticeable then?
Like there's no sprite for it ig
restive mulch
Y'know, I actually pondered about the fixes being in an update people that got the game early didn't have yet
feels weird being correct on this
shell yoke
Y'know, I actually pondered about the fixes being in an update people that got t...
Man it’s almost like people should wait for the game to come out or something.
kind lintel
granite lichen
The problem was the leaked dlc
formal rapids
Man it’s almost like people should wait for the game to come out or something.
it’s not unnatural to have complaints of a product before it releases fizzle 😭
shell yoke
I’m not talking about that 😭
pure flare
Im glad there is some fixes but i still think the music is so stupid
granite lichen
Oh ok
shell yoke
I mean acting like you know exactly what’s gonna happen
Like I’ve seen people saying they haven’t fixed the jump lock beforehand
shell yoke
https://fxtwitter.com/sonicstadium/status/1671505748969521152?s=46&t=olX4lfm6-dD...
and wow that’s crazy
pure flare
I hope the normal version has an update as well
granite lichen
Ig oreogins deserves an apology oribros....
pure flare
Its only fair since mania plus had an update with it
granite lichen
I hope the normal version has an update as well
It will
shell yoke
If the updates are only for Plus then yeah that’s pretty inexcusable
granite lichen
No point giving fixes to a dlc
shell yoke
But I don’t think that’ll happen
formal rapids
well is that our fault for reacting based on what we know about sega or sega’s fault for the way they released the game
granite lichen
Is a qol update
shell yoke
well is that our fault for reacting based on what we know about sega or sega’s f...
Yeah kinda
granite lichen
And dlc
shell yoke
The game isn’t even out
tribal wave
I'm probably gonna be one of the only active members here who's gonna buy Plus
kind lintel
I'm probably gonna be one of the only active members here who's gonna buy Plus
i will too
shell yoke
Idk
granite lichen
I would like to buy it
kind lintel
i'll also be playing it on sunday alongside superstars lol
granite lichen
But I'd have to buy origins
shell yoke
Definitely not now
tribal wave
Origins Defense Squad rise up
granite lichen
Here's the thing imma be honest
devout raft
Bruh
shell yoke
But in the future
granite lichen
There's something that makes origins unique aside from Amy and is the boss rush, missions and also being able to repeat special stages
😭
valid narwhal
I already have origins so why not get plus
I want to really know how Amy's gonna be like
granite lichen
When I was playing CD PC version recently I struggled with how I wasn't able to repeat the special stages
granite lichen
No
valid narwhal
I can't imagine not being able to replay it
granite lichen
You can go slow and kill the UFOs lol
formal rapids
I mean acting like you know exactly what’s gonna happen
They barely gave us a reason to believe otherwise 😭
valid narwhal
You can go slow and kill the UFOs lol
Yea but sonic is kind of painful to control ngl
granite lichen
Anyways they seem to fix oreogins good thing
formal rapids
Like good on them this time I guess, until Friday where more issues inevitably pop up and the discourse starts again
I’d love to be wrong here but monkey’s paw guys
valid narwhal
overall
I wasted like 15 coins on the same cd special stage and I couldn't get the time stone
tribal wave
CD special stages were easy
fringe verge
Part of the problem is that the CD special stages do a false 3d and that fucks with the perception of depth basically
granite lichen
They kinda easy, i just struggled cuz it's all in one try 😭
So being able to retry is a win win
Thing that I couldn't do when playing
valid narwhal
yea it's one of the best features origins offers
formal rapids
"mere" 
vagrant spindle
10 dollars
for a playable Amy and the worst ways to play Game Gear games...
even to those who got the Digital Deluxe edition
valid narwhal
Wish they could've bothered to re-create the gamegear games
How could that could've been
vagrant spindle
i'd get it if that was the base price to non-Digital Deluxe owners of the games
not the defacto price for all owners of the game
regardless if they got the DLCs or the Digital Deluxe edition
valid narwhal
Glad they actually didn't forget about knuckles
spice wigeon
I'm pretty sure there is no double jump, only in Superstars
the review says if you tap jump button twice like double jump you activate the hammer mid air
and if you keep it pressed you activate her hammer drop dash move
also after watching video reviews, yeah I agree that the game gear titles pretty much suck, although I do like 1, 2 and Triple Trouble, also Tails Adventure, the rest? Don't really care, maybe Drift 2
floral stratus
Amy tempted me too much damn it
Can't blame you LMFAO
I wasn't going to bother getting origin plus if it wasn't for Amy
valid narwhal
Same ngl
At first I was like "damn this dlc looks like it kinda sucks"
And then the more I saw amy the more I got tempted
granite lichen
huh
shell yoke
Better score than the original release for now
granite lichen
oh
I was gonna ask why they put it like a new release
but remembered that its cuz its almost like a new game now
lmao
bro is fat af
seems like amy double jump has a sound
like a blob sound or something
but it doesnt seem like she does it
is kinda weird
valid narwhal
bro is fat af
It fits
The original sonic sprite is so goofy
And also
Man those sound choices for amy are really wacky
Did they have a specific reason for picking these?
shell yoke
HES SO FUNNY LOOKING
spice wigeon
is it higher (for now) than Frontiers?
granite lichen
guess origins is the definitive way to play the games bros...
lost quail
CD still clears
restive mulch
It sure clears
...away from my brain
lost quail
uncultured SWINE
pure flare
Mono??
Lemme try...
... the audio is fixed.
What the fuck
This is the weirdest thing i ever seen
There is NO echo on Mono
wintry mauve
fucking christ, just saw amy's ending in sonic 2 out of curiosity and this has nothing to do with her but
sonic 2 has the absolute best ending song in my opinion lol
just hearing it got me teary eyed stop with this silly song!!!!!!!
marsh pilot
why does that sprite look bad
quartz grotto
sonic 2 has the absolute best ending song in my opinion lol
In terms of credits music? No I would say both 3D Blast Genesis and Advance 3's credits music are the best
valid narwhal
why does that sprite look bad
cause the original ones for sonic aren't good either
I tell you he got the silliest face i've ever seen when completing the special stages
short nacelle
There is NO echo on Mono
So I take it the stereo headset is de synced somehow?
pure flare
Yep
granite lichen
Good trailer
kind lintel
hyper potions?
short nacelle
What now
floral stratus
https://fxtwitter.com/SonicOfficialJP/status/1671896574337728514
bro they are even hyping over Amy getting a super form
kind lintel
am i the only one who likes sonic origins......
valid narwhal
I mean I do
Sort of
I think it's very expensive for what it gives but it's not bad as a collection
kind lintel
check #1119544197452668939 for deets 
tribal wave
am i the only one who likes sonic origins......
Nah I think it's fine
It's pretty convenient to have on my PS5
valid narwhal
I would like to buy it idk
I mean hey you get to experience amy before superstars
Main reason I'm gonna buy it
floral stratus
Update is up btw
robust whale
Update is up btw
?
pure flare
HUH?!
robust whale
oh ok
short nacelle
I though plus wasn’t out till tomorrow?
pure flare
I need to see this
floral stratus
welp! 
pure flare
That looks way nicer
floral stratus
Feels so good seeing Knux and Amy with 3D Model
robust whale
is knuckles being playable in CD a part of the Plus DLC
someone please
granite lichen
someone please
Nope
robust whale
oh thank god
granite lichen
Just Amy dlc
pure flare
Wait really?!
granite lichen
They would've promoted knuckles CD with Amy as part of the dlc lol
Also it would've been dumb to put knux cd as dlc lmao
robust whale
Knuckles in cd is dlc.
so i have to pay for Plus in order for knuckles to be playable in CD?
is it not just part of the update meant to accommodate Plus
pure flare
Look Davih
robust whale
if my second interpretation is correct then that’s absolutely dogshit
pure flare
robust whale
oh they can absolutely go fuck themselves
robust whale
yeah nah im sick of the whole “the hate is too crazy” thing now
granite lichen
It's joever knuckle bros
formal rapids
lol. lmfao, even
granite lichen
How much is the upgrade?
shell yoke
That’s so fucking dumb, what the hell 
granite lichen
10 bucks?
pure flare
Yep uh Jump Lock is fixed
granite lichen
They did it....
pure flare
And they fixed the aspect ratio
pure flare
Which is the most important part to me
shell yoke
They don't deserve the hate anymore
David:
granite lichen
Lmfaooo
shell yoke
But seriously tho
granite lichen
But knux in CD is evil 😭
formal rapids
it took you guys this long to realize this 😭
shell yoke
it took you guys this long to realize this 😭
because we didn’t know?
short nacelle
I mean they had to modify the level design to accommodate him right? It’s not like it was effortless…
granite lichen
Is the update out tho?
shell yoke
Oh it’s out?
formal rapids
because we didn’t know?
you didnt know that knuckles in cd was dlc exclusive in spite of them marketing it as apart of the dlc 💀
granite lichen
Well
pure flare
He goes behind the platform now
granite lichen
Ig they fixed the small bugs then
formal rapids
they didnt try to hide it at all did you guys seriously think they'd make him free 😭
granite lichen
Cuz they promoted Amy dlc not knuckles
Also the back cover in one of the pre order cases puts Amy as dlc
lol
pure flare
Cuz amy is the most important thing
granite lichen
Not knux
shell yoke
Don’t pretend you guys weren’t dooming that the fixes were gonna be behind the dlc only too
pure flare
Go check
granite lichen
Don’t pretend you guys weren’t dooming that the fixes were gonna be behind the d...
Not me lmfao
shell yoke
Not me either
granite lichen
It wouldn't make sense either
granite lichen
How do you make update fixes behind dlc? Do they activate some code or something 😭
shell yoke
I just don't care
if you don’t care why are you going through the effort of discussing here
shell yoke
then talk about Amy 😭
granite lichen
Uh oh
shell yoke
Can’t what? 
floral stratus
But I'll wait tomorrow to say more how I feel about Amy 
wintry mauve
Anyone that has Origins (plus)
i heard changing the audio from mono to stereo (or the reverse?) fixes the game gear echo audio
so my question is
wintry mauve
does it fix the muffled sound of sonic 3?
granite lichen
Dakii
granite lichen
Don't know about sonic 3
fringe verge
Wait really?
I read a comment in youtube that says this, yeah
granite lichen
You have to ask Henry
granite lichen
does it fix the muffled sound of sonic 3?
@pure flare
wintry mauve
does it fix the muffled sound of sonic 3?
@pure flare can ya check?
robust whale
Don’t pretend you guys weren’t dooming that the fixes were gonna be behind the d...
ive never seen a single game or game company lock bug fixes behind paid DLC; anyone who genuinely thought that would happen has a screw loose
wintry mauve
double tag 🫡
granite lichen
ive never seen a single game or game company lock bug fixes behind paid DLC; any...
That was just dopium
😭
robust whale
I didn’t see anyone say that though, that’s the thing
shell yoke
ive never seen a single game or game company lock bug fixes behind paid DLC; any...
sonic fan behavior transcends all levels of common sense im afraid
Then you weren’t looking
Because I saw it here too
robust whale
and you’re certain it wasn’t just a joke
shell yoke
pure flare
Sonic 3 sounds. Exactly the same, horribly enough.
tranquil cloud
sonic origins more like sonic3air.org 🔥
robust whale
they used Amy as a way to distract from the truth
granite lichen
Amy leaks
Scam, they didn't fix shit
Embargo is out and it seem to fix stuff
Ignores
wintry mauve
Sonic 3 sounds. Exactly the same, horribly enough.
even when changing the stereo to mono and all?
wintry mauve
appreciate 🫡
tranquil cloud
>Amy leaks
Scam, they didn't fix shit
>Embargo is out and it seem to fix stuff...
Hold on, what happened now?
shell yoke
>Amy leaks
Scam, they didn't fix shit
>Embargo is out and it seem to fix stuff...
we got distracted by mario
formal rapids
good for them for addressing shit! still took them a year and origins is still a mid collection and they still paywalled knuckles and amy but at least they checked off one box on the list
granite lichen
Hold on, what happened now?
Nothing just that people assume stuff too fast 😭
tranquil cloud
Gotta go fast
wintry mauve
i mean i have 0 interest in origins but with plus and the fixes
seems aight
granite lichen
we got distracted by mario
Main song for this is the eat asshole one
floral stratus
Huh—
shell yoke
LMAOOO
robust whale
good for them for addressing shit! still took them a year and origins is still a...
hi plug
shell yoke
I will not be buying !!
floral stratus
Put it back.
shell yoke
I will extra NOT be buying because Superstars got revealed
wintry mauve
we will be buying
on a significant sale
granite lichen
Imagine if it was 60 just because of plus
robust whale
Game still same price anyways
yeah if you buy it now
midnight blaze
Game still same price anyways
Not if you bought origins before lmao
floral stratus
Imagine if it was 60 just because of plus
Death sentence.
midnight blaze
robust whale
I think it’s funny that “early adopters” basically got punished
tranquil cloud
I wish Sonic games didn’t have Denuvo…
midnight blaze
I think it’s funny that “early adopters” basically got punished
THIS
granite lichen
I think it’s funny that “early adopters” basically got punished
Yeah 😭
robust whale
$10 fuck you to anyone that bought the game at launch
floral stratus
That’s pretty funny, lol.
robust whale
fuck you for supporting our product right when it came out
should’ve waited a year IDIOT
floral stratus
They know people who care enough will either double dip or pay for the DLC.
granite lichen
robust whale
god this sucks in so many ways lmfao
floral stratus
I wish Sonic games didn’t have Denuvo…
I feel like that is more of a SEGA problem in general since other SEGA games but PSO2/NGS are getting it too
tribal wave
Nah I can't give them the benefit of doubt here
granite lichen
I wish Sonic games didn’t have Denuvo…
You're always free to pay 300 bucks to get it out tho....
robust whale
everything about this game from before it even came out just SCREAMS “nickel and diming for basic shit”
Island Camera
cinder saffron
Denuvo is not a problem
robust whale
Knuckles in CD
cinder saffron
And it works
robust whale
fuck off
granite lichen
Island camera being pay 💀
cinder saffron
Deal with it
granite lichen
Island camera being pay 💀
That was a slap in the ass ngl
cinder saffron
The only times sega won't use denuvo is when they actually want you to pirate the game
Like putting Yakuza 1-6 on gog
granite lichen
True
floral stratus
Honestly there really was no real way to remedy this besides just including the plus stuff for free if you already had Origins.
..Which they would not do, lmao.
robust whale
well
formal rapids
we will be buying
on a significant sale
fuck that shit bro "sale" nah im plunderin
formal rapids
sega genesis roms here i come
floral stratus
Bones—?
wintry mauve
But yeah tbh nobody cares about the game gear games
insane to me its not the master system versions
granite lichen
I wish they included genesis or Saturn ones but at that point just make a mega collection
robust whale
I promise yall, if they didn’t include Amy as a playable character nobody would think twice about shitting all over this
shell yoke
sometimes that's what people call money if they wanna be quirky
shell yoke
Bones.
floral stratus
I promise yall, if they didn’t include Amy as a playable character nobody would ...
Adding a new playable character usually causes more leniency.
supple owl
so 2.0.0 dropped on Switch.
trying to trigger the roll lock but nothing's happened so far
sacred lotus
ive never seen a single game or game company lock bug fixes behind paid DLC; any...
I don’t know why but me stumbling upon this brought me back to five years ago when I heard about a Switch game called Worldneverland - Elnea Kingdom that locked additional save files behind as paid DLC
I was not joking when I said that
tranquil cloud
You're always free to pay 300 bucks to get it out tho....
The Switch NSP in my pocket:
granite lichen
😭
cinder saffron
Maybe someday we'll collectively stop caring about the constant regurgitation of these games
supple owl
ive never seen a single game or game company lock bug fixes behind paid DLC; any...
one of the Unleashed adventure packs has a bug fix for the Brenda sidequest iirc
formal rapids
bro you're adding an additional 10 dollars for this shit? fuck the game gear titles, give me 3D Blast and Knuckles Chaotix too
shell yoke
Maybe someday we'll collectively stop caring about the constant regurgitation of...
i'm past the point of caring too deeply
supple owl
yea. that was 2008/2009 tho.
though i could be wrong
floral stratus
one of the Unleashed adventure packs has a bug fix for the Brenda sidequest iirc
Oh?
Never knew this was a thing.
granite lichen
Sonic 06 also had dlcs now that I remember
shell yoke
Unleashed......bad!!!!!
granite lichen
Pay dlcs
shell yoke
i mean it always was so 
cinder saffron
I don’t know why but me stumbling upon this brought me back to five years ago wh...
In like the mid to early-ish 2010s, a somewhat prominent monetization scheme for mobile games was doing this, along with locking classes of characters behind paywalls, which is a more common thing even today
I saw that reaction
It's funny how the moment they try to do this on the Switch it always backfires
Because the culture is so different
Mobile games had no real leash on them and these things just got normalized
granite lichen
Yeah
short nacelle
12 emulated ROMs with shitty audio
Audio problem comes from the old portable games obviously not being designed for stereo.
short nacelle
one of the Unleashed adventure packs has a bug fix for the Brenda sidequest iirc
Microsoft’s weird with patches and stuff. They forced valve to charge for a level pack for left for dead 2 that they intended to release for free, for instance, and I have heard about issues updating the console versions of various games specifically because of legal tape. I doubt that’s on the Unleashed devs or even Sega as a whole.
formal rapids
got the English version of the ad
quick elbow
fuck you for supporting our product right when it came out
very glad they're doing a physical off the bat for Superstars cos if they weren't I would absolutely be going full alarm bells mode for them cunting us over with Superstars Plus in a year
(also very glad SCU did not do this when the EGS exclusivity was up and just... dumped it on steam one afternoon lol)
vagrant spindle
$10 fuck you to anyone that bought the game at launch
Wild
They could’ve done a discount to those who owned at least one of the DLCs/Digital Deluxe
Like by at least 25-50%
But they straight up didn’t
I would be fine if it was like $5 dollars
but nope
$10
At this rate, all I’ll ask is this:
spice wigeon
I'm not mad that Knuckles in CD is DLC
I'm mad that the island animations for Knuckles and Amy are DLC!!!
lost quail
Damn so no Superstars Plus?
granite lichen
supple owl
has the Sonic Origins 2.0.0 dropped on any other consoles yet or was it just Switch
hasn't dropped on PC yet btw
valid narwhal
Don’t pretend you guys weren’t dooming that the fixes were gonna be behind the d...
If they did it
Oh they would be so, so dead
Thankfully not though
wintry mauve
very cool that its fixed (didnt know it was impossible before that sucks)
but has anyone ever seen sonic skate in the water like that?????
like its the braking animation clearly but ive never seen it get stuck like that, it looks kinda cool lol
fringe verge
I never saw that before
valid narwhal
Yea it looks cool
It could be possible in the classics if the brake doesn't kill your speed in the water
In the video it seems to keep it somehow
restive mulch
Cuz they promoted Amy dlc not knuckles
What do you mean, they've been promoting playable Knuckles in CD pretty hard
pure flare
They did yet it passed by a lot of peoples radars
spice wigeon
yeah they did, also the fact that new routes were added for Knuckles was the big deal for the DLC
restive mulch
Not shocked that's part of DLC. Don't think it should've tho, what a weird decision
valid narwhal
Really?
pure flare
Honestly of all things i am happy the screen resolution was fixed
wind verge
Did they fix anything?
wind verge
Honestly of all things i am happy the screen resolution was fixed
THEY DID?????
pure flare
It was really bad to see the pixel appear so screwed
wind verge
FRFR.????
pure flare
Now it looks nice
wind verge
YOURE NOT JOKING????
pure flare
There is still a filter around it
wind verge
Damn...
pure flare
But its far less egregious than before
shell yoke
Wdym by that?
wind verge
OK, I'm satisfied.
shell yoke
You mean the pixel blurring?
pure flare
Its REALLY hard to explain
wind verge
Basically
Instead of bilinear filtering
It's sharp bilinear filtering.
Same technique, but a lot finer with detail.
No shimmering due to uneven pixels, but not nearly as lazy and smeary as Normal bilinear.
shell yoke
I see
wind verge
I wish there were a setting for it, but yknow.
Now the most important thing, are the inaccuracies fixed with Sonic 3?
It'll take a but of research from Sonic Retro but
I hope
pure flare
Aside audio yes a lot has been fixed
wind verge
And we'll, I'm kind of mixed on it but it's getting better.
pure flare
The pixel flitering was awful
wind verge
Yeah, sharp bilinear
pure flare
Cuz corners of pixels looked too sharp
wind verge
Awesome.
short nacelle
Is "I'm Outta Here!" still not audible
wind verge
Damn...
shell yoke
I mean they went out of their way to remove that
pure flare
I can check
shell yoke
So I’d assume
shell yoke
The biggest issues I hear people complain about have to do with the drop dash lock and the pixels so it’s nice to hear they’ve been remedied
pure flare
Yep for sure
Now this actually looks like a proper decent collection, as a decent way to replay these games
wind verge
The biggest issues I hear people complain about have to do with the drop dash lo...
Bruh
shell yoke
what
pure flare
Oh
pure flare
Sonic doesnt do the thing
wind verge
That's lame.
pure flare
Do i have to play on original mode?
Lmao original cd my ass
This is just the remaster in 4:3
pure flare
Three more minutes
But god i wish i was able to show you what bugged me so much about pre patch origins
There were corners of pixels that... shimmered???
Like they were popping off the screen randomly and it looked disgusting
You can see it well in the UI
I mean, could
wind verge
This is just the remaster in 4:3
Mhm.
And unfortunately you can't make the backgrounds black
kind lintel
And *unfortunately* you can't make the backgrounds black
you can, it's in letterbox settings
kind lintel
it's always been like that in origins cd
they removed all of sonic and amy's voicelines
quartz grotto
That's an odd thing to remove
Though I'm wondering because CD is based on the 2011 port if it was also removed in the original 2011 release
tribal wave
Did the original port have extended hitboxes on the spikes or something?
quartz grotto
Though I'm wondering because CD is based on the 2011 port if it was also removed...
Can confirm the "I'm outta here" line was never removed in the original 2011 release
valid narwhal
Did the original port have extended hitboxes on the spikes or something?
I don't remember but seems like it
The fact it's one of these awful classic level design trolls 💀
I hate them
fringe verge
https://twitter.com/Tracker_TD/status/1672020526682783744?t=PzCqsGcwBhizuh22ZkmF...
GLIDE DROP DASH?
valid narwhal
https://twitter.com/Tracker_TD/status/1672020526682783744?t=PzCqsGcwBhizuh22ZkmF...
I need that to be repeated
granite lichen
vagrant spindle
how the fu...
valid narwhal
okay not going to lie
I kind of understimated the sprite work for her
it all looks really great
fringe verge
Amy's looks so good
valid narwhal
the continue sprites being a direct reference to fighters is so cool
pure flare
Amy looks great
If sonic origins was just launched with amy as an unlockable, and knuckles in cd from the get go, this would a fairly no controversy game
quick elbow
it'd still have controversy, but it'd be more "its a good effort with some minor letdowns" rather than the current "we fucked up the games and instead of fixing em properly we're going to nickel and dime some more content out" instead
granite lichen
Still best way to play these in consoles
granite lichen
I would say even for PC it's just that since there's the decomp
granite lichen
There's really no reason to get it on pc
valid narwhal
https://twitter.com/Tracker_TD/status/1672020526682783744?t=PzCqsGcwBhizuh22ZkmF...
also what is this again
I'm confused at the way this was worded I have no idea wtf it's talking about
pure flare
So when knuckles falls off a glide you can now immediatly spindash
fringe verge
OOOh
fringe verge
That's a neat idea
valid narwhal
I just installed the patch and yea you can do that
tranquil cloud
Sonic Origins, more like…
Sonic Snorigins!!!
valid narwhal
Sonic Orions
warm granite
Hey i comeback after so long to show this
valid narwhal
I didn't get it until now 😭
shell yoke
quartz grotto
Hey i comeback after so long to show this
Or you know you could just...
hallow violet
there's been a lot posted, sorry if this was answered already, did they fix the pixel blur filter?
valid narwhal
Or you know you could just...
lmao
pure flare
there's been a lot posted, sorry if this was answered already, did they fix the ...
They did!
valid narwhal
https://twitter.com/Axanery/status/1672037125242474499?s=20
wait why the game got sonic mania sprites
pure flare
Looks good now
hallow violet
OMG
hallow violet
my biggest complaint
hallow violet
the fixes seem like basically everything i wanted except for adding extra save files
i hope not many people expected them to fix the music in sonic 3
granite lichen
https://twitter.com/Axanery/status/1672037125242474499?s=20
Might be for 3k
Remember they found mighty and ray in the files
So Amy probably replaces one of these
Since 3 was built on top of mania
Peelout Amy
valid narwhal
that's cool
but it reminds less of the peelout
more like max speed mania sprites
hallow violet
what time might Origins Plus unlock in the US for Switch?
pure flare
Midnight maybe???
hallow violet
do you think midnight local or midnight like in ET
hallow violet
yeah i think so too
hexed heron
hi
floral stratus
https://vxtwitter.com/harpermarierose/status/1672020322084700161?s=46&t=hEzBjG7J1D3FOfKF1hrb8g SEGA keep this bug plz lmao
quartz grotto
Wait so does the update come with the cartridge?
quartz grotto
No the update not the dlc
quartz grotto
I ask because it's downloading the update now
quartz grotto
I just got update 2.0.0
shell yoke
so bad for anyone who go this