just asked him about the pal cover because i've never seen it until his tweet
#Sonic Origins
kind lintel
it's not even on the origins website, even if you select the australian english option
kind lintel
hexed heron
https://twitter.com/keithjohnstack/status/1644686535441387520?s=46&t=olX4lfm6-dD...
mario and luigi :)
subtle mirage
Timeless, they say..? (Heh.)
restive mulch
They already been gassing up Sonic Blast for several days, don't worry
restive mulch
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1645821680319868928 this is the 3rd video of a game gear game and it's still echoey, it's over
olive briar
wym echo
fringe verge
The sound sounds like it has a bit of echo
sonic rampart
it's weird that there'd be an echo in the first place all things considered
fringe verge
Mhm. Nothing mayor. It's a bit weird, I'll give it that
Funny little story.
I wasn't sure how drastic was the change so I went to youtube to check a gameplay. I got jumpscared by the sound being louder than I expected (I was hearing headphones)
cinder saffron
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1645821680319868928 this is the 3rd vi...
No, it's joever
kind lintel
sega should really take notes on how much people really want the ms versions
kind lintel
💀
i'd say that they'll patch out the audio issues if people notice them
if people don't... then that's too bad 
vagrant spindle
Wouldn’t be surprised if they made all audio functionality within a Game Gear emulator call up CRIWare ADX functions
Because they were already too scared over OGG files
and even then
if that did happen
I would actually be surprised that they managed to pull that shit off
kind lintel
cinder saffron
granite lichen
cinder saffron
Let's make it interesting
granite lichen
fringe verge
LMFAOOOOOOO
cinder saffron
fringe verge
😭
wheat wadi
Lol
hexed heron
sonic
vagrant spindle
i assume they'll have the japanese roms too
Imagine if they lock out the Japanese roms, that would be the most Nintendo move SEGA could’ve done
quartz grotto
Why would you want to play the Japanese roms though?
kind lintel
there's barely any difference in terms of gameplay
so it's really just for novelty lol
hexed heron
wheat wadi
the most mentaly stable Sonic fan..
granite lichen
Is that the VR game tht let's you emulate?
wheat wadi
yeah
wheat wadi
Its alright, but the technology still has somethings about it that could use some work. Battery life barely lasts 2 hours even when pluged in and the headset feels uncomfortable and heavy after long use.
Plus you wont adjust to using it without expiriencing some motion sickness here and there.
I used to complain about the connectivity between the headset and PC , but from my recent expirience they somehow mitigated the stability issues I had with software patched and now I can play PC games whrough wifi no problem.
kind lintel
Its alright, but the technology still has somethings about it that could use som...
what headset are you using?
wheat wadi
Quest 2
hexed heron
woah :o
kind lintel
origins plus is more worth it if you didn't buy digital deluxe
with digital deluxe you're only paying for the game gear games and amy
it might still be a 9.99 digital upgrade so 💀 to those who bought digital deluxe
while if you bought standard the purchase will include the hard missions and the other digital deluxe things
hexed heron
what mods are out there for origins?
kind lintel
just music fixes, minor things like lives in anniversary mode, and filter fixes
i'd say there's not much, not many are interested in modding this
hexed heron
can origins work with sonic 3 air and all that stuff?
vagrant spindle
If you know your way, you can still use a Sonic 3&K ROM file
Just
Not from Steam
kind lintel
hexed heron
:)
devout raft
kind lintel
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1012565401810518077/1098490992530817095/HitePlus_KeyArt_Concept_B1_SPJ_Landscape.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012565401810518077/1098491386770231387/sonic_origins_plus_titlelogo_RGB_outline.png
high quality versions of the plus keyart
fringe verge
cute
honest plank
That Sonic official logo looks very bad
Why is the sonic logo much bigger than the official part
shell yoke
I thought you were talking about the origins logo and was like wtf are you talking about
sonic rampart
same tbh
kind lintel
tranquil cloud
That Sonic official logo looks very bad
LMFAOOO
it's crazy to see the effort behind the intro and then this simple ass logo comes outta nowhere 😭
devout raft
hexed heron
finally finished cd for the first time
unfortunately, i didnt love it as much as others and i think it mainly comes down to the level design
the emphasis in exploration is cool and getting the good ending is easier than most people think (especially thanks to origins cause i can now replay the special stages over and over again)
the main issue is that in some levels, its way too easy to get lost in and some of this game falls into the classic sonic trap of putting random bullshit in your way when going at blistering speeds so it's impossible to react
hell, most of my deaths in the final level weren't from the boss itself (the boss was piss easy) but it was from the level constantly launching me into pits at the beginning
id still say that its better than sonic 1 though
honest plank
It sucks
It's completely antithetical to sonic as a whole
The game actively punishes you for going fast and or going straight and it's something I have never jived with personally
The level design is fucking terrible and things are just placed there for no actual reason
I don't like Sonic 1 at all but I would play that over CD in a second just because it's straightforward
lost quail
CD is at its best exploring the level destroying the generators and holograms smh
quick elbow
I’m not very good at CD but I appreciate it for what it is
(Special stages can fuck off though, terrible things lol)
robust whale
CD is at its best exploring the level destroying the generators and holograms sm...
or just listening to the godly ost
kind lintel
CD is at its best exploring the level destroying the generators and holograms sm...
same
i always find new things when i go off the beaten path and explore in cd
...at least i enjoy it in most zones, wacky workbench kinda sucks
cd shines in exploration, not really for raw speed most of the time
if you want speed just go for the first few zones of 2
tranquil cloud
Choosing my friends and marking my enemies in this chat…
lost quail
kys boomer
vagrant spindle
CD sucks
CD is top 3 best Classic Sonic game imo
That’s right
It’s over Sonic fuckin 2
Fuck that game
vagrant spindle
No
lost quail
Sonic 2 is baseline for how a Classic Sonic game should be like, 3&K and Mania Plus goes beyond and CD putting emphasis on exploration and having a bussin artsyle and music compensates for its flaws
lost quail
Literally die on god
hexed heron
(Special stages can fuck off though, terrible things lol)
I was disappointed at how not fun those were
hexed heron
1 vs cd
Cd better
Sonic 1 involves a lot of waiting, and whilst cd also has some waiting, it’s not nearly as much
tribal wave
fast magnet
hey nova
fringe verge
oh hey
lost quail
CD Special Stages are good, had fun with those. Literally any special stage is better than 1's
fringe verge
I don't like the one with the rainbow sky
it makes me hella dizzy
from there, they look fun
sonic rampart
Cd special stages are dog water
They only look fun. They control so badly
And that’s before you get to things like invisible walls, the water draining your time to an absurd degree and having little to no control when jumping
quick elbow
cd special stages when you slightly skim the water for a fraction of a millisecond
sonic rampart
The depth perception can also suck my ass
There were so many times where it looked like I connected with a ufo and I just went through it
kind lintel
They only look fun. They control so badly
pretty sure in the original it just acted as a showpiece for the mega cd lol
sonic rampart
I can buy that
kind lintel
i find it fun but the depth perception issues are the trickiest
fringe verge
They are visually appealing but in gameplay they can be very distracting
kind lintel
i tried to grind the special stages to get the unlockables
but i ended up getting really bad motion sickness
trying to get those unlockables is difficult, can't get my times low enough
the most irritating thing was that it wasn't possible to restart
it wasn't an option in the frontend menu 
so i cant even restart and save time when i mess up
pure flare
The UFOS SUCK
lost quail
The absolute state of skill issue
how can yall say 2/Cd's special stages suck when 1 is literal ass
honest plank
how can yall say 2/Cd's special stages suck when 1 is literal ass
They're all terrible
Sonic advance's special stages are even worse
hexed heron
how can yall say 2/Cd's special stages suck when 1 is literal ass
I actually prefer sonic 2’s special stages to cd’s
floral stratus
2 is frustrating annoying
1's sucks
CD's is jank as hell
hexed heron
Imma play sonic 2 origins now
lost quail
They're all terrible
Lippo moment
granite lichen
mental geyser
I actually prefer sonic 2’s special stages to cd’s
🤝
quick marsh
Blue Spheres solos as always
lost quail
Dimension Heist tho
lost quail
Blue Sphere started to lose their appeal to me after doing so many of em in Mania but it was nice to be able to Perfect em all in Origins 3&K
fast magnet
Mania are the best classic special stages imo
and rush special stages might be the best overall
fringe verge
Mania are a close second to me
kind lintel
Will you be originating on June 23, 2023⁉️
granite lichen
Sadly no
lost quail
yes
tranquil cloud
Will you be originating on June 23, 2023⁉️
“Originating” 😭
fringe verge
It's joever
tribal wave
Regurgitating noises
pure flare
So!
I have beaten Sonic Origins
1 through 3k
And honestly
Sonic 1 CD and 2 are kinda janky i dunno tf they do to make things work slightly less
But... here is the thing
I think this is the best version of 3K
Buthered proto music aside
As i was playing 3k i noticed something very interesting about this version
... ROBOTNIKS DIABOLICAL TRAPS ARE GONE
you know when you are running around or rolling at full speed then suddenly Oops Sonic tripped on a curve or loop thats too bad
That does NOT happen in this game
And my GOD IT FEELS AMAZING
the fact loops work as they should and sonic smoothly goes through tubular level design without getting stopped by some corner
It feels like it works as it should now??? Like im nailing jumps and getting to paths way faster in this version
This is the thing not even AIR was able to do and they did it
Not only that, Tails AI is much smarter
He goes after bosses without you having to jump for him to follow
He doesnt stop when you are at full speed
Also you spindash or even jump through rocks
The marble garden spinny thing is heavier and faster and it feels so much better to play
Everything just feels great
So props to Headcanon, even if they werent able to do what they wanted to do
What they done is severly appreciated
And i hope Plus has some more improvements to 1 CD and 2 as well
I am no longer in the crowd of Origins sucks
40 dollars is still too much, but it is a pretty decent collection if it was 20 dollars
spice wigeon
with the physical release it should go on sales pretty often as well
pure flare
Honestly the way 3k feels in origins might be even better than how mania feels
I am not even joking
shell yoke
I am no longer in the crowd of Origins sucks
Who knew all it took was actually playing the game 
pure flare
The way they reduced the ways you can lose speed is a GODSEND
shell yoke
Joking aside I’m glad you found it decent
pure flare
Nah listen, origins has some baffling stuff
shell yoke
I hope Plus can manage to improve it and not just add unnecessary stuff without doing much it terms of polish
pure flare
But Headcanon basically made their best eith 3k and wish they did the same with 1 CD 2
shell yoke
But Stealth and the others make it seem like that’s what they’ll get to do with this so I have hope
shell yoke
But Headcanon basically made their best eith 3k and wish they did the same with ...
Isn’t the drop dash borked in those games
pure flare
Please i really hope they just didnt do Amy and Knuckles in CD and call it a day
pure flare
Isn’t the drop dash borked in those games
It is it feels real bad
Its just a spindash as you hit the ground
fringe verge
Please i really hope they just didnt do Amy and Knuckles in CD and call it a day
They did say they did some improvements
pure flare
Did they?
shell yoke
Maybe, but idr
tribal wave
I think they said they'd roll out qol updates once the dlc drops
pure flare
Me neither
fringe verge
https://twitter.com/Head_cannon/status/1641242632759427075 this one specifically says stuff
Twitter
quartz grotto
So now that you've played S3&K Origins which do you prefer Henry? S3&K Origins or AIR?
pure flare
i dont know actually
AIR has proper 3 music even the better proto music
But Origins has some really nice flow fixes and change so much
Honestly for now they are tied
But lets wait for Origins Plus
Maybe if they fix the proto music and even more, it might be superior than AIR simply for the removal of robotniks deadly traps
fringe verge
I want to play in it
pure flare
Also did they make the non super sonic final boss harder lmfao
My hands were fucking sweating on that last phase
I died so many times
fringe verge
Not sure
I remember it being annoying
but not hard in the emulator I used to use lol
floral stratus
I feel like it's more so that super/hyper forms just destroys bosses so easily
The difficult just massively increased if you don't use them
kind lintel
i'd say the origins icz and lbz tracks are tolerable
cnz sounds like it's choking up constantly 💀
floral stratus
I never been a fan of casino music over sonic series anyways so it's not much of a loss for me lmao
pure flare
Origins Launch Base is sorta butchered while Ice Cap is just the same as the proto
Carnival Night however what the fuck happend here
Its like a clown choking on a pebble
shell yoke
https://fxtwitter.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/1651061050593390593/en
Aw her idle stance
fringe verge
Aw her idle stance
That's one of the cutest things I've seen tbh
kind lintel
https://fxtwitter.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/1651061050593390593/en
i'm surprised that sega's started to use it as an official sprite so quickly
fringe verge
It seems to be that
The upper post has a sheet with her running animation
And her not-moving position
Plus the Amy toy thing was placed alongside sonic, tails and Knuckles which are in their idle positions
devout raft
https://fxtwitter.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/1651061050593390593/en
oh cool hama bead patterns
fringe verge
A friend of mine made a few of Megaman, maybe I can suggest doing some of these
pure flare
So it seems the only thing making Amy incorrect with the pallete limitation is the white around her eyes
Everything else is the same as 1 and CD
spice wigeon
yep I love her idle that is also how she usually moves (the hands pose)
granite lichen
fringe verge
Neat
kind lintel
at least we can see the covers in higher quality now
i relied on blurry trailer shots for newsfeed lol
kind lintel
sonic origins plus dx pack on sega store, and includes
- origins plus physical edition
- t-shirt
- origins plus acrylic stand
- microfiber cloth
will also include the standalone preorder & physical bonuses;
- original artbook
- megadrive reversible cover
- coaster (preorder)
kind lintel
it's like a collectors edition
hexed heron
ahhhh ok
honest plank
Deluxe has a different connotation in Japan
It can mean expansion or sequel
Remake as well
granite lichen
Always Japan getting better stuff
tranquil cloud
yup
fading fjord
I think this is the best version of 3K
robust whale
he prob means best official version tbh
pure flare
AIR will never get rid of the Robotniks Deadly Traps
This game did and makes a whole ass difference
If they make the music for Plus better somehow, this might surpass AIR
right now they are tied
pure flare
Istg if sega was cool they would do knuckles chaotix secret game after you beat the others
kind lintel
i wish they'd add secret games in general though
game gear ones would be cool alongside the 12 sonic gg games
like ristar gg
kind lintel
i just remembered this
hexed heron
G Sonic
kind lintel
they're actually gonna call robotnik's mean bean machine dr eggman's instead lmao
if they're calling it that it probably means they aren't gonna use puyo puyo for the japanese audienve
it really shows that this is strictly a sonic collection doesn't it
sonic rampart
I don't really see how there was any doubt about that
kind lintel
just wished there was more tbh
would increase the value of sonic origins a bit
no origins plus cartridge/disc 
floral stratus
i just remembered this
What’s that
kind lintel
it's the list of gg games origins plus includes on the japanese website
was just pointing out the oddity with robotnik and eggman
quartz grotto
i just remembered this
Tales Sky Patrol
vagrant spindle
i just remembered this
Odd that they would bring over the localized Puyo GG game to the collection and have it still look the same
vagrant spindle
also lmao
Wouldn’t surprise me if somehow someone complains about the Plus content not being on the disc/cart
kind lintel
probably those who wanna resell their games down the line, and the pro-physical people
every copy will forever be incomplete after the plus code is used
kind lintel
did the mania plus physical copies do this?
i remembered seeing mania only physical editions, unless those included plus as well
vagrant spindle
Yea physical releases of Plus had both the game and DLC packed in
The ones just labeled as Mania is just the game with the contents of the Plus update, minus the Encore DLC itself
The fact that they didn’t bother with Origins Plus’ physical release containing both the game and DLC in one cart/disc is insanely lazy
kind lintel
Yea physical releases of Plus had both the game and DLC packed in
dlc as a code?
kind lintel
ah
vagrant spindle
No code
kind lintel
The fact that they didn’t bother with Origins Plus’ physical release containing ...
i assume it's just in case they want to release a standalone origins release down the line
vagrant spindle
Which makes zero sense
Like that’s a waste of literal resources right there
All that paper just goin to waste completely
At least with Mania, the fuckin DLC is cheap so long as you got it on the account with the same region as the game
That and it’s packed in on a lower sized disc/cart
Origins ain’t like that
Cuz you got 4 whole RSDK files for three different versions all running on an updated backwards compatible version of the Retro Engine
Plus the Game Gear emulator
Plus the HE2 shit
plus the 4K video files
on next gen
that shit takes up more than Mania, even with the Encore DLC included
So overall, why even bother wasting resources on something that would be replaced by something even worse itself
kind lintel
That and it’s packed in on a lower sized disc/cart
have a feeling they decided to cheap out on the disc & carts lol
vagrant spindle
On Switch? Absolutely.
On PS/Xbox? What
Blu-Ray is legit cheaper to make than Switch carts in bulk due to how Blu-Ray is made
that shit is optical
so SEGA could’ve been able to pack in the Plus shit on the disc
altho this would cause a different controversy over the fuckin Switch… again.
pure flare
Its a cacaphony of music
devout raft
👀
modest agateBOT
tranquil cloud
floral stratus
literally lmao
fringe verge
I'm going to enjoy the hell out of her
at least here I don't need a chao doing by homework :p
pure flare
I mean it is just a bigger hit box it seems
restive mulch
turn on the boss, expecting the MIDI version of Sonic 4 Episode 1 boss theme
it's exactly that
hell yeah
and it still sounds kinda ass let's go
kind lintel
there's definitely someone else that does the transcription lol
restive mulch
Still pretty neat that most of the 3D Blast music was reused for Adventure
Didn't know Pleasure Castle was made for 3D Blast as well tho
frail tide
so thoughts on amy meeting sonic before tails
fringe verge
cinder saffron
lost quail
Amy being the first shitty friend goes hard
valid narwhal
Amy being the first shitty friend goes hard
😭
supple owl
anyone know if there's going to be a preorder of the digital version of Origins Plus (mainly the add-on as i own it on Switch and PC digitally) or do i have to wait until it actually releases
pure flare
anyone know if there's going to be a preorder of the digital version of Origins ...
I love your pfp character
supple owl
I love your pfp character
that be my main sona, thanks (though, i simply colored/shaded a sketch i received as a practice)
pure flare
Neat, great sona design
supple owl
hexed heron
sonic origins plus will be revealed in 2 days
sonic rampart
What do you mean revealed?
hexed heron
What do you mean revealed?
sonic origins plus will be revealed in 2 days
quartz grotto
It's already revealed
floral stratus
sonic origins plus will be revealed in 2 days
fast magnet
sonic origins plus will be revealed in 2 days
hexed heron
sonic origins plus will be revealed in 2 days
supple owl
sonic origins plus will be revealed in 1 day
hexed heron
sonic origins plus will be revealed in 1 day
kind lintel
i really hope they'll include manual scans or at least some tooltips for the game gear games
i shouldn't be expected to go online and read the manual on sonicretro to actually know how to play
tranquil cloud
runners music
2d game....amy....
devout raft
valid narwhal
when was the last time amy was playable again
without counting the dumb racing game
valid narwhal
damn
cedar crow
17 years ago
quartz grotto
The last time she was playable in a 2D game was Advance 3. However if you don't count that game then Advance 2, she was an unlockable player
cinder saffron
cinder saffron
unless we count Boom
^
hexed heron
:D
quartz grotto
Auhm, ackshually, Sonic Boom Fire & Ice
I don't count that because it's Sonic Boom, an entirely different continuity. It's Its own series, not part of the main games
vagrant spindle
Her last 3D playable appearance prior to Frontiers was in Sonic and the Black Knight as a multiplayer character
Same deal with Secret Rings
spice wigeon
the Olympics are 3D as well, and the racing games
can we agree that they are all spinoffs including Boom
the only thing I would consider as non spin off are the Knights in BK final story
valid narwhal
Yea pretty much
vagrant spindle
the Olympics are 3D as well, and the racing games
Don’t usually count the Olympics
granite lichen
can we agree that they are all spinoffs including Boom
Storybooks are mainline
spice wigeon
considering they are made by Kishimoto, I'd say yes they are mainline
spice wigeon
those are just tacked on multiplayer modes though??
Black Knight had a twist story where you play as the 3 knights Lancelot, Gawain and Percival aka Shadow, Knuckles and Blaze
the other characters however were multiplayer battle mode restricted
like Tails as Blacksmith, Jet and Silver's knights counterparts, and... Amy Rose
I think Black Knight was also playable???
kind lintel
Black Knight had a twist story where you play as the 3 knights Lancelot, Gawain ...
ah
devout raft
olive briar
Chillin
kind lintel
some earlier sonic 1 music
higher quality drum samples (like the prototype) and slightly different arrangement and tempo
devout raft
Whats the first song from?
kind lintel
it's not related to sonic, it's just the theme of these music releases
devout raft
I see
tranquil cloud
https://youtu.be/-V6O21cDNNM
floral stratus
https://twitter.com/Axanery/status/1654560528906215425?t=qTw609WEkyFkXMDg_Rm0XA&...
Beautiful
valid narwhal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/981086217011601458/1045424066384891904/un...
What is this crazy ratio
I need the link to the video
kind lintel
shell yoke
kind lintel
i hope they really do give digital deluxe owners a discount ngl
unless it'll look like sega is just getting more money from their most loyal fans (who will gladly pay for something that's overpriced)
vagrant spindle
Honestly they should’ve made it so that users who own one or both of the Digital Deluxe DLCs get a discount of 2.50/5.00 USD for the Plus Expansion Pack
Unfortunately it’s gonna be most likely still be stuck at $10
subtle mirage
There were so many times where it looked like I connected with a ufo and I just ...
Yeah, that's the main reason why I don't like CD Special Stages either.
fringe verge
Problem with that kind of stages is that using sprites (a 2d based style) to try to emulate 3d isn't the best idea, as it does not give an accurate depth to the things
in terms of the player interacting with the things on screen
fringe verge
Hm
kind lintel
it's fast, and perfect if you don't have much time/energy to sink into a complete playthrough
pure flare
Shame origins didnt have it
kind lintel
appreciated having this in jam, but i'm not that sad about origins not having it
when i'm in the mood for a certain level i just load it up with level select lol
pure flare
Oh its not the same thing lol
kind lintel
it really depends on what you use easy mode for though
i usually don't have motivation to do full playthroughs in a single sitting
pure flare
Exactly
kind lintel
Is the game worth it? Planning on getting it
do you have a platform in mind?
quick breach
Steam deck
kind lintel
if you're on pc decomps + 3air is a better choice if you just want to play the classics imo
unless the added features of origins & origins plus fancies you
robust whale
Decomps + 3air?
so basically
kind lintel
https://youtu.be/QekdEBOWX7Y
to be precise, this and sonic 3 angel island revisited
robust whale
you know the mobile versions of 1 and 2?
they’ve been fully reverse engineered to be playable on pc
and you can modify them to hell and back
quick breach
That sounds nice
quick breach
https://youtu.be/QekdEBOWX7Y
to be precise, this and sonic 3 angel island revisi...
Thanks a lot 👍🏻
valid narwhal
https://fxtwitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1658506545829912576?t=PlRBH8i_NQ9QmF...
Really good
kind lintel
is this supposed to be origins plus marketing
it's about drift and has the blue and purple gradient lol
cinder saffron
Yep
kind lintel
on another note, it seems like they're changing they're posting approach?
for this week it's like one post daily
kind lintel
2011 footage 
honest plank
I mean, it is just the 2011 version of CD?
quartz grotto
Yes it is
valid narwhal
Past ✨
kind lintel
are the badniks on the origins islands from LW?
quick elbow
thiiiiiink one of the choppers got reused for Frontiers via the fishing minigame
midnight blaze
iirc someone compared and they were different
origins models are so much better than LW ones tho
rare origins W
kind lintel
wish they added knuckles and amy models though
midnight blaze
same
kind lintel
for the characters they ended up reusing gens & forces stuff
kind lintel
if they went to model the flickies why didn't they go the extra mile for the rest 
midnight blaze
funny as hell that they made new assets for all of the zones for the overworld and didnt make new assets for frontiers cyberspace tho
pure flare
Is it so hard to make models for Knuckles and Amy
midnight blaze
funny as hell that they made new assets for all of the zones for the overworld a...
like, the overworld models are genuinely super nice
quick elbow
Maybe plus will have dlc for their models
extra $10 early access DLC for those 
pure flare
Man
I am very curious for Origins Plus
I hope it is not just put amy and game gear games in and call it a day
Stealth has implied they changed stuff
midnight blaze
like, the overworld models are genuinely super nice
like
this is a good looking 3D oil ocean lol
pure flare
I hope its true
quick elbow
I hope it is not just put amy and game gear games in and call it a day
(I'm like 90% sure it's just that and a few bugfixes lol)
like, it would be nice to be surprised, sure!!
but after SC:U...... man
kind lintel
like
this is a good looking 3D oil ocean lol
did you boot up origins for this screencap
pure flare
Yea
quick elbow
like they've really abused my trust with these things now
pure flare
They have
midnight blaze
did you boot up origins for this screencap <:vectorRunners:712534038983868416>
no lmao
quick elbow
no way I'm getting burnt again unless they actually like, pull their finger out and fix shit
kind lintel
like
this is a good looking 3D oil ocean lol
the 5 3d artists cooked ngl
midnight blaze
they did
quick elbow
they cooked, but at the same time I wish they hadn't cos it quadrupled the filesize lmao
pure flare
YEA
midnight blaze
true lmao
pure flare
I dont like that i have
5 gb of sonic 1 2 3k and cd occupying space on my switch lmao
Its almost not worth it
Its cool but
I would rather have a more simple UI
Idk
shell yoke
Speaking of UI
quick elbow
(also lets be honest this absolutely contributed to the 30 quid pricetag lol)
shell yoke
I think Origins has pretty great looking menus
midnight blaze
(also lets be honest this absolutely contributed to the 30 quid pricetag lol)
yeah 100%
quick elbow
that and the animation which ngl I could've lived without
they're just okaaaaaaaaaaay
kind lintel
are those island animations reused from anywhere?
midnight blaze
are those island animations reused from anywhere?
pretty sure theyre mostly original?
sonic running across water is prob reused bc like, idk why they would animate that again
but they def didnt have like, toxic cave animations before this
midnight blaze
it also kinda
pure flare
That would make it 20 dollars instead
midnight blaze
runs not super well
pure flare
Not on switch at least
midnight blaze
so its much more annoying to play origins on lower end hardware
when the games themselves arent a problem at all
midnight blaze
Not on switch at least
talking about my laptop for example
its not like this runs terribly
its just, if it didnt exist i wouldn't have this problem
kind lintel
so its much more annoying to play origins on lower end hardware
it would be cool if they had a "simple menu" option that boots into a menu without the islands
midnight blaze
would be very nice
pure flare
Its coming in a month
kind lintel
i just wanna see a little bit more of amy
pure flare
We do still have no idea how she plays
midnight blaze
I mean we do kinda have an idea
Her hammer seemingly let's her bounce and makes for a larger hitbox
And I think you can also use the hammer to jump higher?
midnight blaze
I'm not sure about that one actually
I just remember seeing a thing where she hit the ground with the hammer to jump
And I would guess that that makes for a higher jump?
pure flare
Are you sure thats not the amy mania mod lol
pure flare
It would be cool tho
Cuz im not sure just a bigger hit box is too appealing tbh
At least let me bounce higher
midnight blaze
Yeah would make her wayyy lamer compared to tails and knuckles as alt characters
But iirc headcanon mentioned they made her?
So I have hope
Twitter
pure flare
What is jarring is her looking way different than cd
midnight blaze
I really like her sprite tbh
pure flare
It is really good
midnight blaze
I'd prefer of the color pallet was the slightest bit more limited
But it looks really nice imo
pure flare
I just really fucking hope they do integral scaling
shell yoke
You think they’d replace her old sprite with the new—
nah
pure flare
For the love of god pls
Nah
Fizzle when you play amy in cd
You will see the old amy playing as the new amy sprite
shell yoke
oh? on god?
kind lintel
does amy appear when you play as tails in cd?
kind lintel
i assume this means they're almost done with development
it's gonna release with echoey gg audio isn't it
kind lintel
i assume this means they're almost done with development
this will be a fools errand, but i can still hold on hope
there were 12 days between this update and the sonic chaos gameplay tweet
subtle mirage
funny as hell that they made new assets for all of the zones for the overworld a...
It took me a moment to realize what you were referring to, but your example (posted soon after to elaborate) made me understand it.
And that said, you make a fair point.
I was going to comment on how that Oil Ocean tower is just a small portion of the overall stage, but I'm sure you already considered that.
kind lintel
pure flare
You see titles like this make me lose my interest on watching it lol
quartz grotto
I was gonna say I wish there was a video like this for Sonic Heroes but I remembered Chaomix already made it
vagrant spindle
https://youtu.be/z-I0MLp_0HU
Yea, because I suck at the game that will give you a seizure if you decided to get a FUCKIN POWER UP
sonic rampart
here's my hot take, but if you need to be good at the game for the game to be good, that's not a good game
I'm not good at dark souls, but I can admit it's a good game
I'm not a combo god in dmc, but it's a good game
I'm not good at sonic labyrinth and the game is bad
There's people who probably speed run daikatana. That doesn't make diakatana a good game all of a sudden
quartz grotto
I can agree with that. There can be good ways and bad ways of playing games. Does playing it the right way make it good? It depends on how you view it but from an objective standpoint, no it doesn't
Like you can enjoy it more if you know how to play but that's it
sonic rampart
yup
floral stratus
i wonder i should buy Origins Plus
cause i want to play the games once again
but i don't want to encourage sega bringing back classic stuff
sonic rampart
if you want it, buy it
if they do it again and you don't want it, don't buy it
simple as
floral stratus
i think i'm just gonna buy it second hand
subtle mirage
You hopefully could get it cheaper too.
floral stratus
Yeah 40€ is a bit pricey
Well I saved 40€ by switching my FFXVI preorder to the standard edition
40€ for a steelbook and a map is too much
supple owl
i only have the base origins but i will buy the plus upgrade dlc
pure flare
Lets see if its worth the upgrade
kind lintel
i think i'm just gonna buy it second hand
i'll just warn you though
for the package releases of origins plus, plus dlc may only be coming in the form of a code
so hopefully you'll be able to find a copy that has it unredeemed
kind lintel
hexed heron
Damn, so much promotion for what is essentially sonic mania plus 2
Eh I ain’t complaining, I like seeing sonic stuff at my local games store :)
sonic rampart
Not for nothing. but mania plus is the biggest collection of classic sonic games in one place
Game gear ports instead of master system aside, all you would need to get to play all the classic games is this collection
I don’t count chaotix
kind lintel
it's not the most comprehensive but it's okay selection wise
reminds me of pac man museum+
fair share of games but a lot of obvious exclusions like ms pac man
you're getting more with the latter though, museum+ is cheaper
quick elbow
ms pac man's still in legal hell thanks to AtGames IIRC but yea point still stands, lotta collections nowadays offer far more for far less
kind lintel
besides that it's still pac man
luckily there's no compromise there
re pac had some changes but pac mom is minor in the grand scheme of things lol
might pick it up because it's on sale this week
sonic rampart
Yeah, not saying it was tarnished because of it
Just that they needed to make the change for legal reasons
That being said, aside from using the master system/genesis ports of the game heat games, origins plus is a pretty comprehensive collection of the 2d classic games with a little extra in the way of the cutscenes and missions
I can’t think of what else they would add aside from chaotix
Maybe 3D blast since it’s not really a 3D game
shell yoke
I find something really funny about how the Origins Plus reveal went down here
Gets leaked
“nah it’s fake, there’s no way they’d do that much”
Gets revealed
“…..it’s too little !”
sonic rampart
It really do be like that
valid narwhal
Since when was it "that much"
robust whale
> Gets leaked
“nah it’s fake, there’s no way they’d do that much”
> Gets reveal...
if it makes u feel any better i was never impressed by its prospect lol
im not gonna see a handful of emulated game gear titles as “that much”
shell yoke
if it makes u feel any better i was never impressed by its prospect lol
why would i feel better, Idrc either way 😭
I just found it funny
robust whale
why would i feel better, Idrc either way 😭
true
who here said that they’d never do that much tho
kinda curious
shell yoke
can’t remember names tbh
I just remember when it leaked that people were doubting they’d even Amy and GG stuff
But also people doubting because where it came from isn’t exactly credible a lot of the time
valid narwhal
if it makes u feel any better i was never impressed by its prospect lol
also me which is why I asked why people thought it was that much
fringe verge
This is very cute tbh
kind lintel
as much as people hate blast (for valid reason), i'm glad to see acknowledgement of this material
devout raft
I wish they put some music on the bg of these
vagrant spindle
I bet ya it has music, it’s just that they muted it for Social Media posting
altho with how they’re constructed for Labyrinth and Blast, I do not have high hopes for them
Cuz it would legit make the stories look confusing to your regular shmuck who doesn’t even know about Sonic Blast
sonic rampart
how would it make it look confusing?
vagrant spindle
Lack of context or explanations?
It just being visuals ain’t gonna give people the slightest hint of what happens in the story at all
quick elbow
hate to break it to you but I don’t think people are playing Blast or Labyrinth for the plot 💀
vagrant spindle
and if anyone mentions the animated cutscenes, those at least gave context and showed what happens to let people get an understanding about it
sonic rampart
i mean it's a pretty straight forward thing and if anyone would want more details, they can either look it up or read through the manual
the premise for these games are far from complex
vagrant spindle
i mean it's a pretty straight forward thing and if anyone would want more detail...
Right… the manual
The one thing people IGNORE
sonic rampart
just like you ignored everything else I said
no one is going to be scratching their heads wondering what the premise for sonic blast/labyrinth is.
anyone who would actually care enough beyond the simple images would likely have looked it up
quick elbow
actual critique detected unfunny meme GO
vagrant spindle
actual critique detected unfunny meme GO
what unfunny meme
quick elbow
The one in ur folder of unfunny memes 
granite lichen
i mean it's a pretty straight forward thing and if anyone would want more detail...
But aren't these animated drawings from the manuals?
sonic rampart
they are
granite lichen
Oy
Oh
Then it's fine
You could guess the plot without much effort anyways lmao
vagrant spindle
The one in ur folder of unfunny memes <:Ascending:1079322115129495572>
what folder
sonic rampart
pure flare
hate to break it to you but I don’t think people are playing Blast or Labyrinth ...
Im sorry i saw this and i cried
midnight blaze
hate to break it to you but I don’t think people are playing Blast or Labyrinth ...
I mean, do you think people are playing these for the gameplay or graphics?
sonic rampart
more than the story I'd wager
quick elbow
I mean, do you think people are playing these for the gameplay or graphics?
idk, for a laugh, for an achievement, self harm, something like that
midnight blaze
Idk sonic labyrinth plot has more potential than the gameplay
shell yoke
https://fxtwitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1661765363728814080?t=b0Gr5dDehF0XBf...
WE WIN BLAST BROS
shell yoke
hate to break it to you but I don’t think people are playing Blast or Labyrinth ...
shut the FUCK UP
quick elbow
shut the FUCK UP
vagrant spindle
what the fuck did I cause
kind lintel
sacred lotus
vagrant spindle
https://twitter.com/keithjohnstack/status/1662081148317732864?s=46&t=olX4lfm6-dD...
No way! Trash became Mid!
kind lintel
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1662159025197449216?s=46&t=52yR2vVNtD6...
another ploy for newsletter subscriptions lol
kind lintel
tranquil cloud
kind lintel
"To live a life of power, you must have faith that what you believe is right, even if others tell you you're wrong. The first thing you must do to live a life of power is to find courage. You must be ready to reach beyond the boundaries of Time itself. And to do that, all you need is the will to take that first step..."
so real....
sacred lotus
sonic rampart
playing as amy gives you a free bingo it would seem
sonic rampart
yup, it should come out on the 28th(?)
sonic rampart
23rd actually
lost quail
Knux has exclusive routes in CD
Sonic stream showed a glimpse of it in Collision Chaos Zone 1
shell yoke
granite lichen
zaaamn
hexed heron
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1664346136591872001?s=46&t=52yR2vVNtD6...
I cannot get life🥺
granite lichen
that shit was laggy as hell
lost quail
Yup
pure flare
Sonic stream showed a glimpse of it in Collision Chaos Zone 1
Did no one clip that?
quick elbow
heard in Origins they're removing all the obstacles and renaming it Collision Normal
granite lichen
they didnt play amy
spice wigeon
Mmmm
pure flare
Why does the game run so slow?
lost quail
High resolution or Origins too powerful for Justin’s stream setup
pure flare
Did they get the pal version?
Come on man lmfao
Also i really cant tell if the sprite scaling is better
The knuckles cd sprites look nice at least
granite lichen
they said it was the resolution
lost quail
Well they aren’t live BOZO
vagrant spindle
next time
kind lintel
I feel they did not change the pixel scaling at all
it's likely they didn't
fringe verge
I'd like to have a better definition of her tbh
kind lintel
this is the only screenshot we have of her
fringe verge
I know. Just it's a wish of mine. I can barely tell her details but she looks cute
at least from what I can tell
pure flare
lost quail
nah they only put characters that appeared on that game canonically
kind lintel
which means knux might be on the 3k island
lost quail
He is tho? is he not?
shell yoke
no
kind lintel
He is tho? is he not?
in the original game he isnt
kind lintel
Did we see 3k on the stream???
they stayed on the cd section
kind lintel
I know. Just it's a wish of mine. I can barely tell her details but she looks cu...
maybe if people in chat ask politely they'll show the islands again lol
i cant though, will be sleeping while next stream happens
fringe verge
maybe if people in chat ask politely they'll show the islands again lol
Well it is next week, right?
quartz grotto
Why though? The game is releasing in 3 weeks
granite lichen
They said they'll show Amy in 2 weeks
fading fjord
They said they'll show Amy in 2 weeks
Sonic central bros
cinder saffron
Central amigo?
granite lichen
It comes out in 2 weeks so
It's probably why they said they'll show her in 2 weeks
spice wigeon
island bros…
finally. I remember it was weird how she wasn't there in the first place
the og Origins sounds kinda unfinished
vagrant spindle
island bros…
Oh so they made a new custom Amy model but not Knuckles?
tribal wave
Central amigo?
Central De Amigos
hexed heron
O shit yea, origins plus is happening this month
Sorry, I’ve just been obsessed with Spidah man stuff
devout raft
https://twitter.com/Axanery/status/1664452553063428096?s=20
They own the model so maybe?
granite lichen
I think they also made the knuckles one no?
But didn't include bc of their art or something
devout raft
These yeah
vagrant spindle
🤔 🤔 🤔
https://fxtwitter.com/TheIzzyFishii/status/1664470708049592320?t=BLbB1...
Wild how after they got eject from Sega, they would go on to make…
make…
fading fjord
Rafa made a pretty cool Sonic model which then became Marza Classic Sonic for merch
Damn...
kind lintel
god i wanna see that qr code
hexed heron
https://fxtwitter.com/sonicofficialjp/status/1664557475155136512/en
Ayy, I like vinyls :)
sacred lotus
it’s a coaster for drinks 😑
sacred lotus
Nah, that’s a cd actually
"special record type rubber coaster"; literally what the tweet says
kind lintel
granite lichen
20 days let's gooo
shell yoke
It’s almost time sonic blastians
cinder saffron
Give her a better mike and amplify the voice 😭
tranquil cloud
Give her a better mike and amplify the voice 😭
she's too shy tho 🥺
devout raft
Looks like rafa suspects its her model too
https://twitter.com/Rafaknight_rk/status/1665179586789879811?t=RnemkeGxSQhoOje1iB4i4A&s=19
devout raft
kind lintel
fringe verge
sonic rampart
Only supported 2 player
it's always been this way
maybe not on the genesis version
but on the game gear version this wasn't anything new
shell yoke
oh wait I forgot they’re using the game gear versions 
That still sucks
They should’ve used the master system/genesis versions of some of those games
sonic rampart
¯_(ツ)_/¯
kind lintel
not 4
this is 2 player
if you notice on the 2nd screen the playfields are swapped
that 2nd screen simulates the 2nd game gear in a linked play
kind lintel
latency on both sides but that should be normal
fringe verge
latency on both sides but that should be normal
Ah no, I just downloaded the GIF to show the thing lol
I thought it would be more useful if I could show the game in movement
kind lintel
couldn't save the gif, so thanks nova 
fringe verge
Anytime!
kind lintel
vagrant spindle
SEEEEGGGGGAAAAAAAA
HOW IN THE FLYING FUCK DO YOU CHEAP OUT ON THIS?!
HOWWWWWWWWWWWW
spice wigeon
I already discussed this, this is what will make me not buy the physical edition
sonic rampart
I already wasn't going to buy it, but this is dissapointing nonetheless
vagrant spindle
HOW THE FUCK IS THE PLUS CONTENT NOT EVEN ON THE DISC, LET ALONE A SWITCH CART?!
vagrant spindle
Oh I love having stuff be left off of the cart just so more people would waste their time making worthless pieces of paper to harm the environment even more
tranquil cloud
(Watch as he responds with another reaction image)
spice wigeon
it will cost a lot of space too on my Switch...
tranquil cloud
(Watch as he responds with another reaction image)
Read him as an open book 😭
granite lichen
Bro is so predictable 😭