#How to make LEDs light up without connection to a computer? (Wooting One Flaretech)
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I believe the USB handshake has to process before the keyboard accepts any power, but I might be totally wrong. Right now something like this is not possible, you would need to use a 3rd party device to supply power and/or control the keyboard. You could even setup some synchronization with Wooting RGB SDK ;d
Hm ok, I would have set up different RGB presets with the analog profiles. Was thinking it was possible after seeing videos of the wall of keyboards at the GamesCon booth. But I guess all of them were connected to a Computer to sync them anyways..
Yeah we had a labyrinth of cables behind it, all plugged up into some high end USB hubs and a PC to control it all if memory serves.
Maybe @haughty fable knows if there's a way to bypass the USB handshaking? To allow the keyboard to light up if just plugged straight into a wall somehow. They're very knowledgeable about USB and the Wooting keyboards.
Using an old Wootility and downgrade there should work. Not sure since when the problem was fixed that the device only lit up when being enumerated.
You can start with v3.6.16 which should be the last version of v3.
https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/wooting-update/wootility-win-latest/wootility+Setup+3.6.16.exe
I tried resetting my wooting two with the wootility version you linked. Ended up with keyboard-firmware 1.30.12.
Previous to that I had v2.10.1-beta.4 loaded.
It still does not light up without a PC-connection sadly.
Hmm, so try something older. Maybe: https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/wooting-update/wootility-win-latest/wootility+Setup+3.3.3.exe
Does not work with that version either :<
Would a microcomputer like a pi not work? not the most clean solution but might work no
At some point it should be old enough.
https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/wooting-update/wootility-win-latest/wootility+Setup+3.0.1.exe
That will work for sure.
Not the cleanest solution but it's a cheap solution if reverting to older versions of wootility won't work
This is the oldest I'm aware off. But that might not support the W2 to begin with.
https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/wooting-update/wootility-win-latest/wootility+Setup+2.0.3.exe
In 3.0.1 i cannot restore the keyboards firmware, because nothing happens when clicking the button. The loading bar (as in 3.6.16) does not appear and the loading icon is lagging / resetting every second.
After quitting and reopening wootility it is auto-updated to 3.6.16.
Tried both having the keyboard in restore mode before opening 3.0.1 and also connecting it in restore mode while 3.0.1 is open. In both cases it does not restore.
I can send the log file if needed.
As you predicted, in 2.0.3 the keyboard is not detected.
I will have a look, but it might take some time.
Thank you so much for your effort! Take all the time you need.
Ok, so a W2 isn't supported on the very old Wootility versions, later ones which do aren't able to properly downgrade the firmware and more recent ones where a downgrade is possible already contain the fix so that the LEDs are only on when there is a host.
Meaning as of now there is no way to have the LEDs enabled when there is only power.
Ah that’s unfortunate. Thank you anyways! Maybe I will find a sleek way with a minipc
Using a Raspberry Pi Zero should do the job.
In the case the Wooting draws too much power than the Rasperry can handle you can connect the Wooting to an active USB hub (externally powered) and that to the Raspberry. You can then also power the Raspberry with the USB hub.
hi would you be interested in trying a beta build that enables the RGB of the keyboard with only power being supplyed?
- Use this link https://beta.wootility.io/?test-builds=true (this URL has Test builds enabled)
- Click on "Settings"
- Select "Updates"
- Select "Your keyboard"
- Press "Get Test Firmware"
- Press "Select Test Build"
- Select "
v2.11.0+rgb-demo-mode"
Wow, works great! Thank you!
I will give the software team your feedback 🙂 (I am the messenger)
Little note: this comes up every so often in tickets, mostly from stores that wish to showcase the keyboard so nice to have this.
Just a heads-up: if the RGB/LEDs are running 24/7, there’s a higher chance the LEDs may dim or die as higher usage can lower the lifespan so i recommend to lower the brightness it should help.
I don’t plan to leave it on 24/7. Only really as long as I’m on the pc normally. It won’t really see any more on-time than before.
So I’m guessing it won’t be a problem as im not leaving it on 24/7 and its on breathing- or scan-mode anyways.
A pretty weird thing I noticed with the usb-power connection:
Somehow it doesn’t light up when using a usb-c to usb-c cable with an anker nano charger (USB-C Output). Might be because of the IQ-Feature, idk.
If I route the usb-c cable through a C-to-A adapter and instantly through a A-to-C adapter into the anker brick it works flawlessly, haha.
Also another small feedback for the rgb-demo-mode firmware:
It would be nice if the keyboard would be able to show off the other RGB-Effects like „Ripple“ or „Trail“ without having to press any keys.
That isn’t such an easy thing I suppose, as the inputs would somehow have to be emulated on the keyboard itself, but sure would look cool on my wall 😄
The USB-C to USB-C part: you may want to try flipping the USB cable upside down (this may help), but this is a bit of a leap i assume it may be from a USB PD protocell causing the issues
for passive active rgb effect yea don't think that is possible would need to set up a Pi or device and use software like "Artemis RGB" to have that behavior
Yea i figured. It looks good as it is, so I'm happy. Thanks for the help!
Oh nice what this is now available.
About the C to C cable. The internal cable of the W2 which provides the USB C port had a flaw. So when a C to C cable is used the host isn't aware that the other side is a power sink and so it never provides power. It got addressed at later batches.
If you buy something from Wooting again in the future might worth asking if they still have a replacement cable available of the fixed version of the internal cable and if they are able to add it.
I thought it was the daughterboard at fault for this? Interesting.
@distant geyser Some people refer to the internal cable as the daughterboard. I do not as it's just a cable connected to a USB port and some resistors. So there is no board (PCB).