Wootility v5.0.0-beta.10 Feedback

[raw moon]

[ocean crescent]

Yay

[violet flare]

first

fuck

[prime marten]

oh shit

thats big

[raw moon]

Wootility v5.0.0-beta.7 Feedback

[sleek scaffold]

[safe radish]

6th

[slate wagon]

🤓 ☝️

[jaunty ore]

😏😏😏

[honest thunder]

[little lark]

🤯

[neon basin]

[spark whale]

Not first, not 6th, but definitely best

[keen pine]

https://tenor.com/view/yves-yves-loona-goon-gif-4962405466076535574

[visual bison]

aha, the other day OpenRGB killed the lights on my keyboard xD

[raw moon]

Friday release gang gang

[little lark]

Have you ever had those moments where one of your balls disappear

[sleek scaffold]

it will continue to, we didn't change how it works. just made it not kill wootility communication

[visual bison]

aha ok xD

well i couldnt get the lights going again unless I unplugged the keyboard

[prime marten]

so everything else is good now?

[safe radish]

the RGB software error ?
that can still happen

[sleek scaffold]

are you on latest firmware?

[safe radish]

Wootility - beta.7
Firmware. Beta.6

• Old RGB-sdk from artemis rgb

[raw moon]

the device should now keep a stable connection

[sleek scaffold]

i couldnt break it on my system with artemis

could change wootility settings and everything while artemis was sending lighting updates

[neon basin]

Same happened and then I had to replug the keyboard

[proper crest]

latest firmware is beta 6

[neon basin]

Wootility couldnt detect it without replugging

[proper crest]

wootility is beta 7

[sweet barn]

Wootility might just be goated now, hopefully there won’t be any bugs.

[sleek scaffold]

🙏

[naive crater]

having a slight issue where it doesn't show the "wooting restore"

[raw moon]

Could you elaborate?

[wide depot]

so still no 'wooting background service' right?

[safe radish]

When you start the update process dose the keyboard turn off or turn on quickly with out preforming the update?

[naive crater]

It turns fully off and I have to unplug and replug it in

My bad I was trying to get a photo to remember what it was saying

[violet flare]

after stable

[raw moon]

Same answer as last time, it'll be after stable v5.0

[warm gust]

I had the same, replugging fixed it

[naive crater]

I've tried that and different usb ports

I can keep trying tho

[wide depot]

yea, can I ask how to stabilize jades? saw your comment in other thread.
"Also the end of press gets calibrated as you press it, so you should keep pressing the key quickly to full bottom out to make sure it gets calibrated properly"
so should I press keys deep enough everytime on booting? or can I check this calibration?

[naive crater]

Did it work after only replugging in once?

[warm gust]

Yes

[safe radish]

When you start the update process, the keyboard should receive a command to restart and stay in Wooting Restore.

Then, the Wootility software will either:

• (Web) request to access the "Wooting Restore" device and start the update.
• (App) Start the update process

If the keyboard is not being detected, check how it appears in the system under "Bluetooth and devices." Also, if the keyboard is connected through a USB hub or KVM, try connecting it directly to the back of the computer.

[raw moon]

@naive crater what keyboard model?

[naive crater]

This look right?

[naive crater]

The uhh full one with num pad

[safe radish]

looks like it is not in "Wooting restore: mode

[naive crater]

Does it matter if I'm using brave browser?

[raw moon]

possibly

Brave locks down a lot of things that we use in Wootility

So you should try Chrome or the desktop version

[naive crater]

Ah alright

[junior fractal]

Is it intentional that I don't see the continue anyway button when the window is smaller?

honestly doesn't even make sense to do this in V5 because I think everything does fit quite well

[naive crater]

tried it on google chrome and microsoft edge and it just doesnt show up on the select device

[prime marten]

yo profile import + export might be not working

[sleek scaffold]

bruh

[violet flare]

yes, when it's so small that the ui would definitely break, we drop the continue anyway

[honest raven]

Oh I notice the linux app uses x11, any plans to make this app uses wayland protocol for rendering in ?

[violet flare]

There's a bunch of bugs in the UI which can be fixed which should let us relax it even more

[sleek scaffold]

it's an electron app, not sure how we would fix that

[honest raven]

Oh I will test a command flags --enable-features=UseOzonePlatform --ozone-platform=wayland

Well it works

On left, without these flags and on the right with these flags.

[sleek scaffold]

what am i looking at exactly?

[honest raven]

At upper left of window, the icon changes to indicate the window protocol being used

The X will be X11 and the W letter will be Wayland

The reason why Wayland is to take advantage of scaling for those with big monitors without being blurry due being under XWayland.

The source for the info is this blog : https://www.skerit.com/en/make-electron-applications-use-the-wayland-renderer

[junior fractal]

I mean, V5 definitely fits with only roughly 620px of height, but there's no "continue anyway" at that height, seems a bit weird

[violet flare]

not if you try adding an advanced key 😭

[junior fractal]

Well, I do notice there's a keyboard at the top which doesn't always need to be there 😛

for my personal usage tho I don't care if the UI looks a bit weird because it's too small

at the very least always give the "continue anyway" option

the user has been warned at that point

[crystal sigil]

after this 5.0.0 beta .7 update my 2HE wont turn on anymore

I tried replugging and troubleshoot but both without success

I'm on latest firmware
v2.10.1-beta.5
analog SDK 0.8.0

[sleek scaffold]

we can reproduce, and are fixing this.

[crystal sigil]

thank you

[violet flare]

AVR or ARM?

[crystal sigil]

Avr*

[violet flare]

thanks

[halcyon nexus]

Been waiting for this for SO long finally can use signalrgb

[prime marten]

wait i just clocked it

is the reason why import and export are fked the same reason that caused this

[ruby tartan]

yes i had the same, you need to restore it via the old wootility or it wont come back online. your profiles will be gone tho

[crystal sigil]

owh thanks for this reply , I'll try 🙂

can i safe my profiles with share code first?

[ruby tartan]

if you still havew acess you them, probably

i only had them saved on board :/

[crystal sigil]

owh damn, alright, I'll lyk 👌

[mild steppe]

anyone knows why?

i tried multiple profiles and same error

[sleek scaffold]

skill issue, we're fixing 😄

[violet flare]

Firmware update 2.10.1-beta.7 should be available now

[raw moon]

Friday release moment

[ocean crescent]

last time that happen, a company died

[raw moon]

https://wooting.io/wootility/changelogs/5.0.0-beta.8

[ruby phoenix]

still doesn't work for me sadly. it says: no connected device.. even though I've unplugged and replugged it back in 10+ times sadly. I have Back-Up Keyboards which is what I'm typing on right now.

I have the AVR Wooting 2 HE for reference

[ruby tartan]

hey i think you need to restore it with wootility4 at least that worked for me

then update to newest beta

[ruby phoenix]

let me try that thank you!! 🙂

[ruby tartan]

https://wootility.io/

thats the v4

under settings -> trouble shooting -> two he

then take it from there

[ruby phoenix]

it worked thank you so much 🙂

[mild steppe]

i have the same issue

[violet flare]

you don't need to restore with v4 first, you can just restore with v5 using Help -> Troubleshoot on the left side

[timid ridge]

Hi

My light indicator not working after update :(

I reset the keyboard and it started working again

[feral haven]

Hi guys I accidentally unplug the cable while updating. After I plug it back Wootility could not find the keyboard and "E&R" lit up on my keyboard. How should I handle it in this case? Thanks!

[sonic harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9f8PAI3XJI

[feral haven]

It solves the problem! Thank you very much!

[fringe bloom]

my board exploded after installing this

[indigo valley]

Same 😔

[silver furnace]

Profile import/export is not currently working on the desktop client, but works on web app. The profile code here was generated a moment before on the web app.

This is on v5 beta 8

[twin glade]

In case the error lines are needed, i get the same error on the beta.8 client.

[earnest tangle]

waiting room btw

[raw moon]

https://wooting.io/wootility/changelogs/5.0.0-beta.9

New release

Fixes profile sharing on desktop @silver furnace @twin glade

[raw moon]

Still having issues?

[fringe bloom]

ill try later

[raw moon]

Alright, lemme know exactly what happens and which model you have

[fringe bloom]

lol

[twin glade]

Thanks, it works now.

[neon basin]

Surely next firmware 0.1rt/switch selector

[ocean crescent]

Surely~

Having one next friday would be nice for Woot TTC release

[neon basin]

Are you getting them btw?

[ocean crescent]

ehh, maybe not, lit no money after buying piano

[neon basin]

One day

[silver furnace]

Looks like import/export is working again, thank you!

[lunar crest]

in the latest version when you close the dropdown menu the icons are not centered

[sweet barn]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-profile-theme-your-ur-gif-27000336

[jolly flume]

after update driver keyboard wooting60he+ found problem keyboard not working and disconnected. im Resetting the PC still doesn't fix it. how to fixed pls 😭

[raw moon]

What exactly is not working? Like does the keyboard itself work, but cannot connect to Wootility? Does the keyboard not work at all? Have you checked to see if it shows up as a USB device? and if it shows up as "Wooting Restore" have you don't a restore via Help -> Troubleshoot?

[tough cipher]

same for me, its connects disconnects and just repeats making me unable to use the software both web based and through the desktop app...

[raw moon]

Could you send a screenshot?

[tough cipher]

says connected i click go to wootility

[raw moon]

Do you have any RGB apps running like Signal RGB?

[tough cipher]

then just disconnects etc

no

and rgb is off on my kb

[raw moon]

Have you replugged your keyboard?

[tough cipher]

i will try right now

yes finally lol

not sure why that happened on your guys end but alr 😭

thanks 💪

[raw moon]

Let me know if you encounter it again, maybe was just a random one off

[tough cipher]

will do 👌

[honest kettle]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1339232574593044490 AoE spread on big keys (bug?)

[sonic harbor]

Not related to the v5 beta

[honest kettle]

Was AoE always this uneven?

[sonic harbor]

My 2HE is on 2.9.1 and Wootility v4.7.3 and mine is similar

[honest kettle]

Ah, alright.

[ruby tartan]

is this new beta safe for the 2HE AVR?

[spark whale]

Yes

[ruby tartan]

ok ty

[raw moon]

https://wooting.io/wootility/changelogs/5.0.0-beta.10

New release

[violet flare]

first

[raw moon]

We've got a new little test build out for people who are still encountering issues when using Wootility + RGB apps

[sleek scaffold]

[earnest tangle]

looks like it's more small-ish fixes and stuff, do you have any insight into when we might get some more feature-pack style updates

[raw moon]

After v5.0 hits stable :)

[earnest tangle]

you could've just said never

[ocean crescent]

it'll be 80he 1 year aniversary by then

[earnest tangle]

I think 80he's drinking age at that point

[raw moon]

damn, didn't expect to get roasted after pushing an update 😂

soon™️

[earnest tangle]

what's preventing it being bumped into a stable branch?

[raw moon]

This new beta update is intended to be the last™️ beta release (i.e. release candidate). Only thing it doesn't have is migration stuff we're building to get people off of v5.wootility.io and beta.wootility.io (if they so wish) onto wootility.io and such

[earnest tangle]

ooh, fancy! I imagine it wouldn't be impossibly hard to just sort of grab all the profiles they have, zip em up real tight in a .wootpack file (actually a .zip in disguise) and then import that into V5 via handydandy popup

[sleek scaffold]

getting users to click 5 buttons in order without messing up is very hard

sadly :(

[earnest tangle]

ah so you're rather going the "Migrate me" button -approach which'll just do all of this automagically

[raw moon]

yeah pretty much

took a few failed attempts 😅

[wicked light]

still waiting for switch selector

[earnest tangle]

I'll have to say -- the auto-updater is a really nice feature -- if it's not in the package manager it's very inconvenient to update stuff on linux but this one works a treat with the self-updater

in the past I've had issues with self-updating .appimages just create a new version instead of overwriting the old one, I'm curious if you did something to specifically not have this behaviour or is this my appimage manager just getting better over the years

[twin glade]

Make sure to backup every profile, the backlash will be big in case something went's wrong because of a small bug I've already seen all of this happen

[raw moon]

We haven't really done anything specific for it, we're just using electron-builder + electron-updater and it just takes care of all that for us thankfully 😅

[spark whale]

I found a bug: this thread wasn't edited to be named beta.10 feedback

Wootility v5.0.0-beta.10 Feedback

[ocean crescent]

Yay

it's now 10 years old!

[agile kindle]

Inconsistent content width in Keyboard configuration menues(?):

Actuation Point > Actuation Point section:

The submenu doesnt seem to follow the standard "full content box width" (which I assume is the width of the Profile header at the top of the screenshot). As it seems to differ from the other sub menus. For example "rapid trigger", "quick settings", "advanced keys" etc sections. Do not really understand if this is intentional by design or just some flex box miss. But just in case I sent it here :D

(Copied from another thread as this is more relevant thread for this type of feedback)

Random Questions regarding "Unused space" in content containers in keyboard configuration:

Just a random question out of interest regarding design and usage of "dead space"/"empty space" I have noticed some places in Wootility where its just a "void" of nothing where no text or action button is shown.

Actuation Point > Visual Feedback:

Is it meant to be this much dead space? I noticed its matching the size and layout of the neighboring box containing the "set actuation point settings", but its mostly empty other than the indicator. Also personally I find the single "press depth indicator" looking a bit funny being aligned left and that small 😂

Advanced Keys > Active Advanced Keys : Similiar "empty space"

Is this by design or is more stuff going to get added here? Just asking out of interest, was mostly a bit surprised by the big void of gray box when clicking through the settings 😂

build 5.0.0-beta.10 (I do also assume to some regard that its not fully finsihed, as it is a beta after all ofc, so stuff can change and be moved around) (1080p screen)

(Copied from another thread as this is more relevant thread for this type of feedback)

[sweet barn]

Wouldn’t it be better if we can first confirm what needs updates before going along with the update?

[raw moon]

@heady wagon

[raw moon]

Are you confusing the desktop app updates and web updates?

On desktop we're able to tell you what the new version is and link you to the changelog, we don't have the same info on web, so it just gives a general pop-up and gives a general link to changelogs

[agile kindle]

Gamepad Configuration:

Gamepad > Gamepad:

The visible margin between the keyboard viewer and the section subheader with its corresponding actions feesl squished. The spacing seems to differ a noticable amount from the other configuration views in 1080p in "maximized" mode. When comparing it with the other views its looking and behaving like the keyboard preview is bigger than the other "full size previews" > takes up more space > reduces the space between the sub section and the preview section when the position of the subsections seems to be constant related to a ration of the window size? I saw that it has no text like the others, and that could affect the spacing, but the spacing still feels abit squished. Idk if this is just me ranting about random spacings at this point. Buy hey thought I would let you know :D

Just want to add, big shoutout to the wootility team on the design and functionality of v5. It looks clean, easy to use and genuinly a pleasent experience. Keep it up :D

[storm nymph]

Hey i notice ever since the update the rapid trigger values round upwards or downwards?

[raw moon]

Yeah, that bug got introduced accidentally 😅. Follow the number next to the slider for now until we get the fix released 😁

[lofty zodiac]

Updated to newest build

Can’t even connect to my keyboard now

Says it’s timed out

Communication with device timed out

Reset it fixed issue somewhat

[raw moon]

@lofty zodiac do you use RGB apps like SignalRGB or Artemis?

[hollow estuary]

Anyone else’s can’t save there settings with the new update or use rapid trigger

[hollow estuary]

Same shit is happening to me except it’s ARM what do I do

I need a fix updated my keyboard and now I can’t save settings or use rapid trigger reset keyboard twice but it said that my keyboard was timed out

[neon basin]

Go in rapid trigger tab on the left side

Your rapid trigger is enabled

[hollow estuary]

I did it’s still says the same thing and when I close it and open it back up it’s not on

[neon basin]

screenshot rapid trigger section

[hollow estuary]

Bro I can’t I have to go to bed have work tomorrow morning but I turn it on then I hit saved and try to exit out says the same and thing

Even tried going to the profile and saving changes but still doesn’t work

[raw moon]

@hollow estuary are you on the v2.10.1 firmware?

The pop-up saying about unsaved profiles could be triggering incorrectly, which wouldn't necessarily mean that it hasn't correctly saved

In your video you get the clear saved, which should mean it's all on there

[earnest tangle]

need a feature where we can rename devices, just put it in this 3-dot menu here

[honest kettle]

[raw moon]

What's the significance of it for you when seemingly you don't have duplicate models? When we discussed this feature internally last, we were thinking it was mainly helpful for those with multiple of the same model, so it's hard to differentiate due to the same name

[agile kindle]

I would say it’s because it looks nice, adds a bit of personal costumizing to the keyboard. Like the rgb. And the fact it’s nice to have when you have multiple of the same model and don’t want to memorize the serial number

Technically it’s not strictly needed, but neither is RGB, nor rebindable key. I think it all comes down the user feels like they have even more control over keyboard in terms of behaviour and “representation” :)

[spark whale]

Strengthens the emotional attachment

[earnest tangle]

for me in particular, there's no good reason except for "I thought it would be fun", but for the people who have multiple it would actually be useful

[agile kindle]

I have multiple duplicate keyboards. Would indeed be nice

[raw moon]

Thanks for the input all!