Fortnite editing

[magic berry]

For a year I have used the wooting and it made me edit slower in Fortnite I feel like pretty often I will start a edit and it will confirm the edit before I can even select any tiles idk what to do

[rich tartan]

yeah thats called rapid trigger

as soon as u release the key (by default 0.15mm) it will stop editing

here's a few ways how you can fix your issue:

1. up your rapid trigger distance
2. turn off rapid trigger

[hasty granite]

That’s not how it works it’s more of a ghost tap/double activation which confirms the edit again as if the key has been pressed again, not because it’s been released

I have the issue as well and disabling rapid trigger didn’t change anything so it’s either an issue on Fortnite’s end, a firmware issue, or a production issue considering many people also have the exact same issue and others don’t even with 0.1mm actuation and rapid trigger highest sensitivity

I sent them a support ticket either way but should be a while before they reply

[rich tartan]

hmm

thats interesting

ill run you thru the beginner troubleshooting rq

replug keyboard (i assume you tried this before opening this community support)

[hasty granite]

Trust me I’ve done every troubleshoot possible and still no fix 😭

[rich tartan]

u tried restoring your keyboard?

[hasty granite]

Yes

All firmwares

[rich tartan]

which keyboard do u have

[hasty granite]

From oldest stable available to newest beta

60he

[rich tartan]

okay

when did u first get it

like when did u receive it

[hasty granite]

About a year ago

[rich tartan]

alright

[hasty granite]

October 2023 around

[rich tartan]

do you not have confirm edits on release turned on?

[hasty granite]

I tried with both and I get it

[rich tartan]

thats extremely odd.

[hasty granite]

Yh but with so many people having the exact same issue it seems weird

[rich tartan]

alot of ppl are experiencing this?

[hasty granite]

Ideally they put out a firmware patch or send replacements

[hasty granite]

Yh if u look on the Fortnite tag I’ve seen at least 5 others on this server

And in yt comments I’ve asked and some people also say they’ve had the exact same issue

But until support replies prob just have to wait and see

[rich tartan]

hmm

back to what u said at first

[rich tartan]

u said ur 60he made u slower in fortnite?

and how long have u been experiencing this issue?

[hasty granite]

Ik what he means by slower it’s like the ghost tap doesn’t happen if u purposefully slow down ur edits but any attempt at editing quickly makes it happen

[rich tartan]

@hasty granite do you guys have the same issue as this guy? https://www.reddit.com/r/FortniteCompetitive/comments/wcqi9u/everybody_turn_off_disable_preedit/

i have a feeling this is what you guys are experiencing

[hasty granite]

That seems to be addressing a different issue but I’ll try it out later and see if it works

But even then some people can edit perfectly fine with disable pre edit on so still weird

[rich tartan]

it is for sure a weird issue you guys are experiencing

dont really know what to think of it and how to analyze it either since i dont play fortnite and havent for quite a few years by now

[magic berry]

Yes it made me slower from the day I got it last summer like 1 year and a few months ago

When I use my ducky mecha mini keyboard with mechanical switches it doesn’t happen

[magic berry]

It’s really weird cus u don’t notice it while typing but u do while playing

I should deff turn of rapid trigger

Or something

[hasty granite]

yh this doesn't fix it

[hasty granite]

any fix yet?

[fast bloom]

any fix?

[hushed sluice]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/1i1jm2k/bug_with_f_key_since_new_update_build_wont_place/ ?

[fast bloom]

its not this

[steep scarab]

im having the same issues

i just bought this keyboard to. ive tried numerous setups, different actuation points, rapid trigger settings, etc. some would slightly fix the issue. but its never fully fixed.

ive even plugged in my old crappy keyboard, and tried them both immediatly after one another, and i just cant seem to fix this problem on the wooting. its like the wooting sometimes doesnt even register i clicked, in my case its letter F (my edit bind), or it double clicks.

ill try moving all of my binds to some other part of my keyboard and see if that fixes the issue

so i changed all my binds twice, so i tried editing with F, H, and ;, yet this problem occurs on each one.

I feel as if its a speed thing? If i try everything slowed down, it works perfectly fine. but the moment i try to do things like multiple triple edits, or even a single quad edit, its like it goes to fast it sometimes doesnt even register im clicking

(sorry for the yapping, im just trying to provide as much information as possible.

[vivid blaze]

Have the same issue alr asked but they don’t answer to that problem

[steep scarab]

i think i might have found the exact issue

its the keyboard itself

if you press a key too hard, it wont activate

it will either click once but very quickly, then stop the input (even if you keep the key held downm)

or it wont click at all

[fast bloom]

do i lower the actuation point maybe?

[steep scarab]

it happens no matter what for me ngl

i tried both 0.15, 1, and 2.5

0.15 the double click issue happens, but anything larger than 1 doesnt double click. but they all no matter what sometimes will give 0 input

[fast bloom]

yea im trying to find a fix for a while now

[steep scarab]

ive been trying since i got this thing on thursday

this is lowkey sob

[fast bloom]

i got it a month ago and havent found anything

[steep scarab]

i play faster and better on a $30 1k hz keyboard than a $200 "most competitive keyboard"

[fast bloom]

type shi

[steep scarab]

i cant lie tho, this keyboard is god tier for shit like valorant

but anything else, its useless

ive never played osu, but seeing these input issues, idk how its good for that

[fast bloom]

yea i have the ducky one 2 mini for fortnite and wooting for valo and cs

[steep scarab]

ive wanted a ducky, but ive also heard alot bad about it

i have this wooting, and a friggin Onn. keyboard

and the onn keyboard is so bad, its loud and clanky and has the worst keycaps on it

but yet its still better

i lowkey hope this input issue is just a software thing and can be fixed

[fast bloom]

jus get like an npc keyboard

[steep scarab]

cuz im not trynna unplug and plug in a new keyboard every time

[fast bloom]

maybe apex pro if u have the money

[steep scarab]

the Onn. keyboiard is a npc one

[steep scarab]

might just get the corsair k70

[fast bloom]

yea whatever does the job

[steep scarab]

sell this kb for that ong

[fast bloom]

if i only played fortnite i wouldve sold it by now fs

[steep scarab]

nah i dont only play fn, i have a bit more of a life than to devout myself to that game

i play Fn, valorant, BO3, BO6 and geometry dash

gd, not as much as i used to though

i quit after my kyouki comp

[fast bloom]

for real bro i dont mind this issue that much but when i think that i cant even double edit makes me mad

[steep scarab]

ONG, and i know its not a skill issue cuz im on 0 ping and it works perfectly fine on my other kb

[fast bloom]

im on 20 ping

[steep scarab]

and nonetheless, i can do a quad on my controller but not the wooting

[fast bloom]

i can do a quad with my office kb

its crazy

[steep scarab]

office keyboard beating the wooting in a input battle rn is crazy work

[fast bloom]

its too fast for fortnite prolly

[steep scarab]

but heres the issue, theres some people on youtube ive watched play with a wooting and they dont have this issue

[fast bloom]

maybe its the keyboard we got sent idk

[steep scarab]

yorease and jerian

they showed off the wooting 60he

and they played with no issue whatsoever

[fast bloom]

idk i even emailed wooting a month ago

havent gotten a response yet

[steep scarab]

lowkey i should too

[fast bloom]

you wont get any response but go for it

[steep scarab]

if theres numerous people saying the same issue it could help with response and a fix maybe

[fast bloom]

yea

[flint nymph]

ngl i have fortnite at one one the lowest acuation points and i can edit perfectly fine

do any of you play with edit on release?

[fast bloom]

yea

i have it enabled

[steep scarab]

I do

[steep scarab]

Can we get your profile code?

[flint nymph]

you probably just arent used to the speed of it

[steep scarab]

So we can see if that’s maybe the issue

[flint nymph]

yea ill send it rn u have a 60he?

[steep scarab]

Ye 60he+

[steep scarab]

I even changed actuation to my old keyboard at 2mm

And it still had that issue

[flint nymph]

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my biggest problem was movement but i had corrected that

i dont have any problems with editing though

[steep scarab]

Ight bet, I’ll test it out later when I’m home

I’ll lyk

[flint nymph]

kk lmk

im off to watch harry potter

[steep scarab]

Also, which ones your edit bind?

Cuz if it’s not F and you have custom settings for that one key, I’ll just have to change it

[flint nymph]

i use f to edit

[steep scarab]

it does not help

[fast bloom]

@steep scarab did you find anything?

[steep scarab]

I did not, i guess the wooting forces you to play a bit slower.

I’ve been playing with it, and it’s kinda just something you have to get lucky with, whether it decides to make you struggle with fast editing or if you can actually do what you need without an input not being registered

[outer terrace]

Sometimes it doesn't edit in Fortnite and I have tried all the keys

[steep scarab]

It’s bad when you first start, but now that I’ve been playing with it for a good bit. You just gotta get used to it. But you will end up getting to a spot where you just can’t edit any faster. I don’t think I’m at that point yet, but it defiantly is something you just gotta get better at.

[outer terrace]

Made to remove the 8000Hz and I'm going faster

I think the 8000Hz is not well polished now I'm flying

[bronze hatch]

I haven’t noticed cause I’m bad

[steep scarab]

lowkey miss when i was bad at fn

it was honestly more fun

[fast bloom]

how do you remove the 8000hz

[outer terrace]

Settings and you can put it on 1000Hz

[lime terrace]

Someone that is having this issue please record it happening while using woot-verlay for keystrokes pls:
https://github.com/DjCrqss/Woot-verlay

[lime terrace]

or use https://analog-monitor.wootility.io/

[steep scarab]

Will do

[clever kelp]

ive used it for somedays now and havent run into any problems

Ive used the apex pro before so im used to a low actuation and its such a benefit while editing in my experience.

Most of it is timing especially while using edit on release

[hasty granite]

I’ve had a ticket open with support for some time now trying to fix this problem and I’m pretty sure a lot of us just have defective boards

The reason double edits have been failing are either due to ghost presses causing the second edit to confirm before any tiles have been selected or some other unknown underlying issue with the game engine which seems to affect everyone’s max editing speed in general

[steep scarab]

Lowkey, I still have the issue. But it’s kind of something you learn to start getting past.

[hasty granite]

That’s what it typically looks like during a failed double edit

[steep scarab]

Mine does the same, I’ve changed some settings with the wooting.

[hasty granite]

And after discussing with staff they’ve said that that behaviour is definitely irregular, even though spikes due to key bounce when rapidly double pressing are expected, it shouldn’t be to this scale and any usual bounces are filtered out of the keyboards input

So something may well be wrong with the board itself either due to the switch/key tolerances or a more general hardware issue with the pcb

[steep scarab]

Edit Bind= I changed the rapid trigger actuation to be later (I think like 1mm), and when I start letting go it’s 0.15.

2nd key switched = Then I had to change my right alt or something (forgot which key as I moved the keys around, but it’s to the right of my space bar) to have the rapid trigger that is 0.15 and ignores everything and just immediately stops when you start to let go of the key

[hasty granite]

You can’t see the axis on the diagram but the spike due to the ghost actuation/key bounce is about 1.65 mm worth of travel down to 3.25 mm which would mean that even with your settings the issue would still be present

So the issue prob happens to a varying degree on different peoples keyboards it seems

[steep scarab]

Ik mine detects the entire input, just the game seems to think otherwise.

[hasty granite]

Wdym by that

Seems similar to the second issue we found

Which is that the second input was there on the analog monitor but doesn’t happen in game

But we put this down to a ‘max edit speed limitation’ of the game bc people on different keyboards have the same issue

[steep scarab]

Ye, it’s that.

[hasty granite]

The issue on the top with the analog monitor and the ghost press looks like the edit tiles of the second edit of the double edit turning blue very briefly before the edit is autoconfirmed before selecting any tiles

But the second issue u just talked about, the tiles don’t turn blue at all as if the game hasn’t registered the key press, even though it’s registered on the wootility monitor

And I tested this on 0 ping high fps etc. so it’s not likely due to any other limitation except for the keyboard or the game engine itself

And again like I think you said earlier the keyboard is perfect for other games like val

[steep scarab]

You’re explaining a lot easier to understand than I did… I’m jealous😭🙏

[hasty granite]

I mean I’ve been going back and forth with support for a while now so I basically know the issue inside out 😭

I have clips of gameplay overlayed with the live analog monitor to further illustrate but I cba to find them rn

[maiden fox]

Tried the debounce beta firmware?

[hasty granite]

issue was present on like 3 of the firmwares available at the time i tested with one of them being beta but idk if the debounce beta one was one of them sounds interesting if u could send

[maiden fox]

#1326978509612257362 message

[hasty granite]

thanks i'll definitely give it a try but i think one of the main unique aspects of this general issue or at least in my case is that the bounces are so abnormally large any debounce filtering recognises it as an actual press no matter what

[hasty granite]

definitely feel some improvement haven't yet verified if it's perfect though

[maiden fox]

If it ends up helping it might be good to tag mat1jaczyyy so the team knows about it and can use the work in coming stable firmware builds

[hasty granite]

yh it's been harder to verify though because before chapter 6 all multi edit fails were due to the 1st issue i mentioned (tiles turn blue briefly and ghost actuation confirms edit before any tiles are selected) but more recently most of the fails have been due to the issues other people have with there being a registered input on the monitor, but nothing happening in-game

so it's been harder to test anything in relation to the older issue bc it's 'overshadowed' by the newer one