#Getting kicked from CS2 game for "input automation"

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violet talon
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Hi, I just wanted to know if this happened to somebody else or it's just happening to me. I have the parameter of SOCD for better straffing and since the last game I played minutes ago, I've been being kicked from the game when I press those two keys where I have the SOCD enabled (A and D).

Let me know if this happened to you or if you know the "solution" (not being to disable SOCD)

wicked trench
violet talon
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so they just decided to no allow it, right?

wicked trench
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yup

robust rover
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the solution is to disable socd and rappy snappy

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and not use nullbinds

outer topaz
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Big rip

formal coral
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I can confirm that also rappy snappy results in a kick from the server. But just rapid trigger enabled seems fine.

shrewd zealot
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was this faceit or mm

prime fern
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mm at least; you get kicked off valve servers

shrewd zealot
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so faceit fine?

prime fern
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Unsure on that, haven’t tried myself and don’t want to mislead

shrewd zealot
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fairs

torn portal
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Does rappy snappy gets you kicked too?

frigid sable
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Yes rappy snappy too

formal coral
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Update: I jut get kicked again - I only used rapid trigger, no socd, no rappy snappy.....

fading acorn
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what mode were you playing?

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im in deathmatch rn trying to see if it detects it

formal coral
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Just Casual

frigid sable
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Jumpthrow binds and similar things will also get you kicked

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Maybe it wasnt your keyboard

torn portal
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can get kicked for rapid trigger? tf

robust rover
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shouldnt be possible

prime fern
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Folks on Reddit saying rapid trigger gets you kicked as well

formal coral
orchid orchid
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Welp CS2 has nuked a huge advantage that the Wooting had in the market in terms if minimizing latency ):

fading acorn
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rapid trigger does not get you kicked

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i was trying and it wouldnt kick me

loud granite
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is it faceit servers aswell or just valve?

frigid sable
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Bsnning rappy tappy is really stupid

crisp aurora
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Faceit needs to decide themselves if they'll ban it

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But seems like faceit also banned it

loud granite
golden harbor
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Valve are a bunch of idiots. They focus on stuff that are less important (Snap tap, SOCD) instead of fixing their game and getting a better anti cheat

glad nexus
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The update note legit said vacnet 3.0

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And valve servers have way less hackers then before

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Still some here and there

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But before it was unplayable spinbotters every second match

golden harbor
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@glad nexus I did see that. We will have to see how good it is.

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But like bring 128 tick servers subtick is ass

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I personally don’t care about snap tap and SOCD being removed. I used it and felt great but at some points it felt fast for me too lol. I think cs dev team priorities are just bad.

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I would like a confirmation if people are still getting kicked for rapid trigger?

glad nexus
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Yeah I agree valve should have made cs 128tick

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Sub tick still gives weird moments sometimes

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Even though it’s way better since launch

stark silo
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just played DM with rapid profile enabled, and wasn't kicked from the server

tawdry scroll
golden harbor
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@tawdry scroll bet ty

violet talon
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yep, RT is fine, didn't get kick for that

clever jay
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I tried to turn it off via wotility web, rolled back to the stable version, but it didn’t help. SOCD is still enabled in the game. Help me

violet talon
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but yeah, Valve started messing up when the completely removed CS:GO, insted of simply adding CS2 as another game.

And as always, they're forbiding stupid things like SOCD or keybinds that make easir to play instead of making a good anticheat.

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Yeah, sure, there are no spinbots on low elo games, but you go to +25k and it's practically hvh, and let's not forget that a very biiiig amount of players use Wallhack but they doesn't make it obvious

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Really, if you don't make it obvious, you won't get banned ever

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the anticheat doesn't work, it only works when someone goes berserk killing 5 persons per round spinbotting

violet talon
livid cave
mortal lark
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just test a match on mm server, rapid trigger is fine.

livid cave
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They literally kick you for playing the game, classic Valve

formal coral
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My guess is, that a d spamming gets a false positive. I've read some posts on Reddit and I am not the only one who gets kicked just with plain RT.

next owl
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Typical Valve 😄 Next step will be to kick every player with 240hz+ monitor as it is a hardware advantage too

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void quail
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So did they fix the adad -> kick bug as well?
Friend reported during night that he got kicked even without SOCD but because rapid trigger was too fast :D

wet lodge
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Just got kicked three times from MM server, without using SOCD or Snaptap feature! Also tried without Wootility app opened still kicked me. My playstyle involves spamming A-D-A-D alot to stay moving, dunno if thats the reason.

next owl
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should be possible for wooting to put a 10ms in SOCD to not get kicked? Should be still better than standard human error.

robust rover
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we wont

thin void
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And what if razer adds this?

mild crypt
next owl
mild crypt
next owl
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not really, a random delay from 10-50ms is still better then the human error usually

mild crypt
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Maybe in low elo, so I guess they wouldn't have much of an issue with it anyway

next owl
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the human error is in proplay higher 😄

mild crypt
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Nah, the impact of human error - sure, but to a good strafer it would for sure be worse with random delays

next owl
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with the human delays its still always random

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the time would be just shorter

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a random delay from 50-100 ticks would still be above average of proplayers.

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mild crypt
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The delay is coded into our gameplay tho. Like when holding angles the good players know exactly where to put their crosshair so their reaction time lines up with an enemy player running out from the corner

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So I think it will just come to a preference. You will have more potential without the added delay, but it could also be worth it to get used to the delay and be more consistant

next owl
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whats ur elo in faceit? i am just curious.

mild crypt
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2000

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But idk that's just what I'm thinking. Doesn't sound like an attractive option to me, maybe I'm wrong and it's still a great advantage

next owl
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all good. no offence to ur opinion. Wooting also stated that they wont add it so the topic is done 😄

mild crypt
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Still an interesting discussion, thank you 🙂

crisp sorrel
static galleon
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So it is basically impossible top bind jump to both scroll and space bar anymore too (used to have jump on scroll and jumpcrouch on space)

violet talon
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I mean, SOCD it's only overlapping the keys, I don't see what's wrong with it, should I play with a plastic keyboard and a 5$ mouse? And to be fair, I don't see the difference between counter straffing with or without SOCD, you have to be good to take advantage of it

formal coral
# violet talon I mean, SOCD it's only overlapping the keys, I don't see what's wrong with it, s...

The difference is: without SOCD you have to do the following to make a counterstrafe in CS2: let go of the movement key and then press "as fast as possible" the opposite movement key. So the moment the first movement key is disabled, the second movement key should be activated (of course only a tap, so you dont move in the other direction) - hence a perfect counter strafe and that means that you have perfect accuracy. With SOCD this is automated - you just need to tap the second movement key and you made a perfect counterstrafe with zero delay. Of course there is a debate how much SOCD is really worth it, optimum tech calls it 'cheating' (he wants generate klicks for his videos of course), dedicated cs streamers / youtubers don't think that SOCD makes much of a difference for skilled players (for example voo, austincs, 3kliksphillip, mrmaxim). However most of them seem happy, that SOCD is banned now.

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Also I want to share that I am not longer kicked with only rappid trigger. Last nights update seems to have fixed it, I guess Valve purposely did not inclued it in the patch notes.

next owl
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Shouldn’t you get kicked now always if you play with controller? Because you can’t have the stick at left and right at the same time so technically you have always no overlapping

finite gate
robust rover
finite gate
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emulator

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give keyboards controller movement and give emulation support

glad nexus
finite gate
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Fax

glad nexus
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But yes official servers have less hackers then before

finite gate
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Still insane tho

glad nexus
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It’s been playable in oce servers

finite gate
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Ya with infinite ping

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Plus’s other games are better

chrome ridge
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yeah rapid trigger isnt allowed in cs anymore
luckily i will use it to play roblox 🙂

robust rover
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ofc rapid trigger is allowed what

dim bobcat
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it's not banned in CoD

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that's all I care about tbh

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valve can go f off

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now us mouse n keyboard users have an edge on the controller nerds in warzone >:)

wraith topaz
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Valorant also has nothing against it currently. I dont see the reasons for it but again I do at the same time. It's unfair against those who actually have to try and strafe/counter or those who simply can't afford a wooting keyboard. I don't think it's a massive issue the higher the elo cos people are good regardless 😅 it's not aimbot or something ridiculous like that.

tacit condor
dim bobcat
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i keep crossplay enabled just cuz of the fact that on mnk your reaction time will always be superior

tacit condor
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Yeah for me when I'm sweating and try harding I win, but as soon as I play laid-back and leanback in the chair it's gg

dim bobcat
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ofc

opal snow
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Anyone else not getting kicked in CS2 using SOCD?

static galleon
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this is as old as the hills now - yes it is banned

opal snow
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You have to read what I typed. I’m using it and not getting kicked.

potent sandal