#TenZ Jr Wooting Config Log

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Base Mods:
Stock Case
PC plate
Lube Switches (Krytox 205g0)
Stock Stabs (Lubed Housing and Stem with Krytox 205g0, Dieletric Grease on Wire, Holee Mod)
Switch Tape Mod (3layers Paper Tape/Medical Tape)
Bandaid mod (Dry)
Tempest mod (1 layers)
Gloirous GBPT Keycaps
Poron Switch Pads

Independent mods:
Mounting style
PCB Foam
Case Foam

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surreal pilot
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You try gummy o-ring, silicone pad, polyfill?

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Love the muted sound of gummy mount but hate the flex 🫠 that no foam/pad version sound so good. The muted sound from other versions so nice tho. Your Wooting next level. You really got the switches sounding nice, my bro. 🫡

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TenZ Jr Wooting Config Log

sinful willow
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Damn, shit sounds so good

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The gummy o ring makes it sound so good

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Where did you purchase the gummy o-rings? I want to try too

sinful willow
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My gold 1 ass prolly ain't good enough against you, am I? 😛

dense geode
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Can you show more details on how you did a gunny or-ring mount. Doesnt the right top switchplate stand off get in the way?

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Also what is the switch tape mod, since you already call it tempest mod but then 1 layer

wet cipher
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Sorry I'm at school at the moment I will answer questions when I get home

wet cipher
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Ok so there's nothing about the switch tape mod online but I believe this was found by @cunning sail and @rotund iron
I just came along to do it only because I knew it should remove the upstroke plastic sound which i hate the most out of the lekker switches.
So technically the tempest mod is suppose to be layers of tape under the PCB which suppose to make the board poppy, but sadly it doesn't really work with the wooting because of its steel plate. (Well it works only if you don't use burger or tray mount)
Now the switch tape mod, like I said earlier this mod was technically made for the lekker switches only to remove or reduce the plastic upstroke sound that is being produce from the stem hitting top housing (Which is one of the reason its making that chattering noise) and reduces stem wobble.
So to perform this mod all you need is a strip of medical or masking tape that would fit the stem slider part of the internal and external top housing like the image shown below (Credits to GewaltofRiwa); the more layers you use, the more of the upstroke sound reduce (Maximum layers of medical tape (aka gentle paper tape): 3, Maximum layers of masking tape: 1). Then fold the tape over to in the internal and press it down for a secure stick. If using masking tape I recommend putting a little bit of lube on it as it will feel scratchy, but the tape i recommend is using medical tape as it has a soft porous feel and it can absorb the plastic to plastic clack. (Warning This can take the same amount of time it takes to lube switches;4-7 hours)

rotund iron
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Omg its sound so good!!!

rotund iron
silver magnet
silver magnet
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🤨 stop trolling on god

cunning sail
silver magnet
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well i lubed all my switches and on some i overlubed the springs, they do sound better but they do feel slightly mushy, thats why i was concerned

cunning sail
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Oh yeah, definitely the overlubing then. The tape shouldn't interfere, so you're good! 👍

silver magnet
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i might overlube all of them tbh, the biggest impact for me was the spring for sure

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the best thing i did for this keyboard sound wise was def the switches being lubed, i tried burger mount with both plates and it didn't do too much, the tape mod imo made it sound even worse tried 1-5 layers. the best config I heard so far was from the recent wooting video with a deskpad under it and these mods

wet cipher
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The one I use is the bakeneko60 30a gummy oring, another o'ring you can buy is from grave shift.
In #🪛│modding_faq 30-50a are confirmed to be working fine @dense geode @sinful willow
For this mount, instead of the oring sitting on the post of the case while have pcb cut outs like normal gummy o'ring mounted boards, the module uses friction mount which the o'ring makes the module fit tightly into the case which hence the name "friction mount". This fixes the tray mount problem of the "dead sounding spots" (dead spots is when one side or certain spots of tray mount keyboards sounding uneven than other spots) and gives the board a little bit of bounce; not as bouncy as gummy mount boards though (which can be described as a hard trampoline). But I like a little bounce in my keyboard so I ended up using Polyfill. It sounded nearly the same as wooting foam but a little bit deeper, and since polyfill is what used in pillows, it has cushioning which gives the board a little bit more bounce. :)

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I hope this make sense!

silver magnet
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silver magnet
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i call the bakeneko60 baka60 so forgive me

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isnt getting the module out way harder now with the gummy o ring mount?

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silver magnet
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yeah I know abt that

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also ffs pls remove the 30 second delay here

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silver magnet
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in ur sound tests i didnt really hear much of a difference tray mount vs gummy mount so not sure if its worth ordering one of those

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silver magnet
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yeah thats right, also those are Glorious GPBT keycaps no?

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So in conclusion gummy o'ring mount has a 100% chance of making the sound profile of your board more balance and it gives a more of a bouncy typing feel (not flex)

silver magnet
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its definitely something to try for sure, do you have an alumaze on order?

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silver magnet
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good good, would love to hear a gummy o ring sound test in that one. I had T60Redux on order from keygem for 3 months but cancelled it and got an alumaze instead, it should be here as soon as the next batch ships

wet cipher
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order what

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i bought mine from cannonkeys
Bakeneko 60 30a
or you can buy some at gravshift

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lemme look

silver magnet
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yes someone remove the fucking timer, im gonna go crazy

wet cipher
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So just wanted to compare wooting foam vs polyfill for no reason even though i have already done this but i havent gave my thoughts about it so here ya go. (Btw this is in stock case)
Sound: Wooting->Poppy | Polyfill->Deeper (a little bit)
Bounce (Gummy O'ring): Wooting<Polyfill

silver magnet
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so what I'm basically hearing is unless you care abt a bit of bounce polyfill is useless atleast in the stock case

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Polyfill is kinda messy in a way which is one CON i have for it, fire hazard? I dont think so
But if i were to choose one foam based on sound at the moment i guess i prefer wooting foam, cus im getting these nice pops prob bc of my other mods. Typing feel however i prefer polyfill, cus i just like bounce in my board dogenek
But again polyfill vs wooting foam in stock case not a huge difference, just choose one. Recommend wooting foam ig

silver magnet
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yea the stock foam is pretty fucking nice

silver magnet
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when does ur gifted aluminum case ship?

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silver magnet
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mad why?

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# silver magnet mad why?

Dad doesnt know about it, tried to talk to my mom but she wasnt really understandable at the start so she kept yelling.
My friend that bought me the wooting sent it to my address, when my dad found out he was pissed. Forgave me and told me not to do it again as its for our safety. Totally understand that, but i do trust certain people.
Not a thing i should be saying but idk i just do ;-;

silver magnet
wet cipher
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Ok this timer is really annoying

silver magnet
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it really is

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I beg you someone remove this timer, nobody will spam shit. it's just a thread, fellow piers helping each other in this bitch.

silver magnet
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maybe

sinful willow
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Adjusted the slowdown setting

silver magnet
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actually a homie

sinful willow
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Not sure why it is there in the first place lol

dense geode
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There is a switch plate stand off there.

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cunning sail
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Nope! I'm alive! 😆

wet cipher
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talking about @minor plume dawg wya pepecry

silver magnet
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what films

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where are the films

silver magnet
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🗿

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i'll make it hollow af then

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yes

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i'll unlube all the switches

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and stabs

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i'll bend the wires too

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silver magnet
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😭

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i'll let u do that if u give me a set of durocks and a pcb mount pcb

silver magnet
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yes

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its a fair offer

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get me an early version of the new pcb mount stab pcb and a set of screw in stabs

silver magnet
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then u cant bend the pcb cuh

wet cipher
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hope you take yoga classes

silver magnet
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yoga hmm

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does it clear the head

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will it make me a better man

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silver magnet
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im interested then

wet cipher
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dude 118 😭

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cmon guys this is not the reason why i made this thread

silver magnet
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stop

silver magnet
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its ur fault for making such a good keyboard

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also actual question

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@wet cipher did u actually unironically do the switch tape mod urself?

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silver magnet
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like did u actually open them up one by one and annoyingly put tape in there urself?

wet cipher
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sacrifice
for me and the community

silver magnet
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do my switches too

wet cipher
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you can have mine

silver magnet
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oh

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thank you

wet cipher
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i can take yours

silver magnet
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sure

wet cipher
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bet

silver magnet
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abt 40% of them are overlubed on the spring

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so have fun

wet cipher
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wait

silver magnet
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i did this at 4 am before you cook me too hard

wet cipher
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40?!

silver magnet
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yes

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i did some math

wet cipher
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why not 100

silver magnet
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well because i almost ran out of lube

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im gonna order some more

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i used krytox 205g0 and literally overlubed the shit out of the bottom and top of the spring

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silver magnet
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the bottom of the spring has the most effect tho

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they feel a bit diff to the others not that they feel bad but i like consistency

wet cipher
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honestly yeah go heavy on the springs

silver magnet
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so i legit have to open them up again all of them and go heavy on all

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or get the white KS20 switches the 40g actuation ones and have a ligher switch and overlube those

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my biggest issue is that thuck on the upstroke but u said switch tape mod fixes it so maybe i will spend 15 hours fixing switches

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why

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im talking abt these

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by how much cuh? like 0.2 mms or what

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also can this switch not be closed off?

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the magnet bashing the pcb would be my last complaint sound wise

minor plume
wet cipher
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same bruv

minor plume
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😛 Yeah I havn't been around much - pretty happy with where my boards at atm, been working on some other projects

sinful willow
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Changed the time to 5s now

silver magnet
silver magnet
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@wet cipher 178*

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silver magnet
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180 now

surreal pilot
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Yessssss

pale raptor
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@unique patrol

unique patrol
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what did he do

unique patrol
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What is bandaid mod

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and tempest mod

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# unique patrol and tempest mod

Tempest mod is layer(s) of tape that goes at the bottom of the pcb, this makes the sound profile of your keyboard more poppier or technically louder

unique patrol
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What kind of tape

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unique patrol
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Probably only gonna tape mod and

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lube

unique patrol
# wet cipher Masking Tape

for this tempest mod do i need to leave anything on the back of the pcb revealed or can i just tape it all

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unique patrol
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just a screw driver

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i’ll probably make a small cut with a scissor with it for the

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how many screws on the wooting 8 right

unique patrol
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i’ll just copy this tomorrow

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and

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1 layer right

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i see some people idk if it is this mod 3 layers?

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what tape is recommended for this mod

wet cipher
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for me i do 1 layer

wet cipher
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or painters tape

craggy bridge
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I think the biggest impact here is the tape on the top housing of the switches. No matter how well you lube these lekkers that upstroke will always sound plasticky and hollow. Case foam and mounting will help the bottom out sound better but the upstroke makes it sound cheap. Great mod.

unique patrol
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Like tape mod?

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or this

craggy bridge
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Yes this

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It reduces the plastic sound on the key upstroke. Generally people prefer nylon or pom top and bottom housings on their switches for the sound. The plastic is denser and sounds less hollow.

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The Lekker switch has a PC top, POM stem, and Nylon bottom housing

craggy bridge
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I’m going to try and swap the top housing with one from the gat milky yellow. Looks like it might work? Hoping it helps with the upstroke sound.

craggy bridge
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Cutout not curved enough I’m guessing?

wet cipher
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You can only Frankenstein with other type lekkers or ks switches

craggy bridge
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I was really hoping this would work but it was hard to tell without the gat yellow in hand

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The milky top looks like it has the same cutout curvature from this angle

craggy bridge
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I wonder if any wooting staff could confirm, I'd really love to give it a try

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From what I understand the bottom housing is already nylon, curious what a full nylon housing would sound like

smoky nest
craggy bridge
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Would you be able to test the top housing compatibility? Would be huge if it were compatible.

unique patrol
smoky nest
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I do have the gateron milky yellows though

wet cipher
wet cipher
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I could ask him

unique patrol
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where can I buy it?

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and is there a video on it

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# unique patrol and is there a video on it

I case swapped my Wooting 60HE from a Baka60 to a Poseidon PSD60. Mods include:

  • Tempest Mod
  • Re-lubed, spring swapped, and taped the Lekker switches
  • Durock V2 stabilizers, lubed and holee modded
  • Handcut brass weight for the cavity, with shelf liner underneath
  • Sorbothane foam layer lined with medical tape
  • Wrapped the Wooting PCB in a ...
▶ Play video
unique patrol
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Painter tape and gonna put 3 layers on the PCB

unique patrol
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unique patrol
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unique patrol
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painters tape/masking tape for tempest mod and medical tape for the switch mod idk what it called

unique patrol
wet cipher
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Future Plans:
Getting new keycaps (https://cannonkeys.com/products/nicepbt-blanks)
(Probably but dont guarantee): Dremel PCB for Gummy O'ring Mount

CannonKeys

High quality NicePBT blanks that you know and love, now available as blanks. Extensive kitting for Alice layout and 40s, with tons of flexibility for split spacebar layouts.

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could be endgame

smoky nest
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Never.

wet cipher
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never

surreal pilot
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Endgame…for now. 😅

surreal pilot
wet cipher
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bouncy bouncy ooooooooooo im having a good time

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how to make it deeper? I have no idea

smoky nest
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alien fingers

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smoky nest
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did you not have a different case?

wet cipher
wet cipher
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he keeps forgetting

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rip

craggy bridge
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gamechanger if it works, otherwise RIP LOL

wet cipher
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hope it works

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hope it sounds better as well

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going to be forcing everyone to buy it

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just to do this lol

craggy bridge
# wet cipher hope it sounds better as well

If it does work it should sound better since it's a nylon top, bonus if it helps with stem wobble. In my testing I've found that the stem wobble is the main reason why the upstroke sounds kinda meh. Could be a 2 birds with one stone sort of mod if it works without issue.

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Keep me updated bro 🙂

surreal pilot
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I would buy another set of switches to get a better top housing

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RIP me

wet cipher
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stem wobble is second

cunning sail
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Has anyone tried the Milky top with Lekkers? I have both, but just curious if anyone has given it a shot

wet cipher
wet cipher
wet cipher
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I knew it

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Well

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Pretty obvious

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Thank you

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@craggy bridge

craggy bridge
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Tragic

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Appreciate you testing

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Maybe one day we'll get new and improved Lekker switches with tighter tolerances and nylon top.

cunning sail
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Also I don't know any other switch that has a curve on the top of the stem, so it's not likely any other top housing is going to fit

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I've even tried taping the bottom housing covering the opening in the hopes the sound stays within the switch making it deeper, but I don't think there's a difference. Covering the bottom doesn't affect the actuation since it's magnetic anyways

craggy bridge
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I'm used to very premium switches like the Vertex V1s or any NovelKeys switch so the sound of the PC top housing is just super unappealing.

soft tide
silver magnet
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this is sum interesting info, uhh tenz whats the difference between the burger mount and the gummy o ring, in all the ways that its different? like pros & cons

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or smth

silver magnet
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omfg this fucking goat put like a thousand sound comparison videos

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OH MY GOD💀

silver magnet
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alr so glad i like wooting foam more, idk how the hell to do polyfoam 💀

wet cipher
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so like you can haave the bandaid mod dry or you can put lube or dieletric grease on it

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to make it more dampen

silver magnet
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gummy balancing the sound signature is a great thing though and im mot sure but i believe ill prefer bounce as well, could i do gummy oring mount in tofu redux case?? and do yk size of o ring??

wet cipher
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but in some potentiasl cases it can make it mushy

wet cipher
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bakeneko 60 oring

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or graveshift M size oring

silver magnet
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wow ok

silver magnet
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well obviously

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fuck am i saying

wet cipher
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i love this one

silver magnet
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i srsly thought i had my keyboard plan all set out btw 💀💀💀💀

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wasnt going to do switch pads, was going to do burger, ofc didnt know about seitch tape mod

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didnt know band aid mod was able to be lubed

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and probably more im forgetting😭

silver magnet
silver magnet
silver magnet
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silver magnet
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what is the difference between like is u were to add 3 layers of the tape compared to 1

silver magnet
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silver magnet
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are you only able to lube these 2 band aids?

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and do i use lube or stab grease?

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silver magnet
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ok ok thx

silver magnet
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bro

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i fucking love you

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e-sex call when i get my max modded 60he 😍🥺?

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u deserve it pookie

wet cipher
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oh lawd 😂 lanagun

silver magnet
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😭

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im a minor

silver magnet
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me 2

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😉

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😭

silver magnet
wet cipher
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means you can have bandaid mod dry or lubed with grease

silver magnet
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ik that😭

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im saying

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for grease lubing them

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are you only able to grease THESE 2 band aids

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or the other ones aswell, if so, how

silver magnet
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# silver magnet **bottom 2**

im saying bandaid mod in general can be lubed or left dry
That is the bandaid mod and yes you can lube them^ or leave them dry

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bandaid mod is just puting bandaid on the pcb under the stabilizer

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silver magnet
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what for?

wet cipher
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i dont got a yt vid

silver magnet
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i feel like were on a completely different page😭😭

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he put multiple band aids, only lubed 2 of then, are u able to lube the others??

silver magnet
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oh i thought it was u

wet cipher
silver magnet
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ok heres link

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silver magnet
cunning sail
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Hello!

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hi gewalttt

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miss you bud

cunning sail
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aw you too!

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It's been a few weeks

wet cipher
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few 😭

silver magnet
silver magnet
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so cute man😭😭

cunning sail
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It's not a porous foam

silver magnet
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ohh ok

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ok ok thanks for the clarification

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makes sense

cunning sail
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np!

cunning sail
silver magnet
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thats such a cute name

cunning sail
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Thank you! It suits her well ❤️

silver magnet
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sooo cute

silver magnet
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silver magnet
silver magnet
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silver magnet
silver magnet
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like add friction

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silver magnet
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ok ok

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if i add lube it should prolly be good

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yh

silver magnet
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i just helped someone yesterday with a bunch of peripherals and pc specs for comp fort, and i wasnt 100% sure if it was worth my time but in the end i was glad i can help him and put him on with yrs of knowledge

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you just did the same for me basically

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i feel like this is my way of understanding that it was definitely worth my time and maybe if i didnt help him i nvr would have went into this rabbit hole

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❤️

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love bro

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preciate it

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silver magnet
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im gonna be getting the module (my port on my wooting 60he is cracked and i need a new one) do you know ab this?

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has it been tested and worked?

wet cipher
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so it cant be inserted into the case

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but the only solution is replacing the stabs with either clip in stabilizers or plate mount stabilizers

silver magnet
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i dont know anything at all about stabs or how to replace them 😭😭 ofc i could learn but i dont even know which ones to get

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are the wooting stabs available to get sm where

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like are they an alrdy popular stab?

stuck badger
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@wet cipher btw have you tested MLV? I think MLV would dampen better than polyfill. I filled my board with one layer of it but might pull out stock foam and go all MLV instead

silver magnet
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im good now, got the tx ap clip in, base, 1.6 stabs

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can now gummy