🔌│tech

[pale sigil]

implying i didn

take a loan

to do this

😉

[cursive summit]

Who tf takes loans for anything but houses?

[pale sigil]

already starting to regret it

[cursive summit]

?

I fucking hate rich people

You have the privilege to own something 90% of others can't

You'll get top of the line gaming perf and how the fuck can you even complain about 5 FPS?

5 fucking fps

[pale sigil]

i ain rich

ive spent over a year saving up

im im selling my old shit

so dont start on me boy

[cursive summit]

Assuming brits don't have really good income to begin with

[pale sigil]

We dont

[cursive summit]

Nothing against you but lads, you are getting insane cards

[pale sigil]

Our country fucking sucks

[cursive summit]

Just wait for brexit to finalize, you'll see a resurgence in.. something

[pale sigil]

yes im getting insane cards but at the same time im spending enough to the point i should really consider the best for me.

You dont fuck around when spendin this much

you make sure to make the right choice

[cursive summit]

Well if 90 pounds can't be spent for something like 16GB extra mem then be my guest, go for 5 extra FPS

[pale sigil]

anyway

[cursive summit]

So next week 6800 extra stock?

Maybe it'll come to my country

[pale sigil]

if i get the email from ebuyer confirming my position for a 6800 xt

im canceling the 3080 in a heart beat

[reef patrol]

So next week 6800 extra stock?
@cursive summit Sort of.

AIB cards. Aka. custom coolers.

[latent mural]

Wait @ashen spindle so the only difference is the aesthetics? no tech differences right?

[ashen spindle]

they use the same switches yes, both hall effect etc.

lekker is a limited run to fund the development of the HE variants

so that in the future wooting can make more boards with those switches

[latent mural]

oh alright thanks man

There's no TKL variants of it right?

[ashen spindle]

not yet, there will be a smaller form factor but that will be something they work on later in 21 after the HE is up and running

also not going to be TKL but a similar format, something like 60% or 65%, we dont know exactly yet

[cursive summit]

So, typical performance

Expected something more?

[misty saffron]

it has “gamingpro” in the name

clearly you’d expect more

[cursive summit]

That looks like quite insane gaming to me

I wish I had a 2080Ti

And 3080 spits on its grave

[pale sigil]

ye im overworrying for sure

but i really hope i get the 6800 xt

[cursive summit]

For extra RAM?

Cause it's going to be the whole 1060 vs 580 situation again

At first 1060 was more powerful, but later on 580 came ahead

It's the VRAM that matters

[pale sigil]

that and well

its quite a lot better in some situations or on par

and a lot cheaper

it was 650 here

[cursive summit]

But sucks at RT, and doesn't have confirmed AMD DLSS perf yet

Personally I wouldn't care for RT

AMD's card just seems a lot more underwhelming at it than I thought

[pale sigil]

not that bothered about rt

tbh

[zenith sonnet]

I wait to see fair RT comparisons

Just because it's technically DXR does not mean that everything we have today isn't engineered for Turing

[pale sigil]

my budget is rough now

so far

So far ive spent

• 300 5600x
• 570 5600x/ram/mobo bundle
• 750 rtx 3080

[cursive summit]

My whole rig was 980 euros

A year ago

Though looking at the order, I was scammed

They gave me an ASUS one when the ad had MSI mortar

[pale sigil]

Lol

gpus are still up

guess no one wants palit

[cursive summit]

Send me one

I need a new card for 4K

Will pay you back obv

[pale sigil]

I wont even use 4k

so i do feel a little bad

[ashen spindle]

or you didn't read and it's pre order aka they just take every order that people place

[pale sigil]

I wont even use 4k

[true quest]

guys gaming tv yay or nay

[pale sigil]

Well yes but nothing else

[ashen spindle]

nay

[pale sigil]

is taking pre orders

[cursive summit]

@true quest yay

Gaming TV's are insane rn

LG CX or Samsung q80t/q90t

[ashen spindle]

insane bad bc stuck at 60hz

[pale sigil]

the 100 quid price difference for 20fps+ is worth it in my eyes

tbh

[cursive summit]

No?

120/144Hz

I am 100% sure CX and q80t have 120Hz

I am unsure about 144Hz

But both are FreeSynced and CX is Gsynced

[true quest]

ive heard some say that 120/144 is somehow simulated/a smoothing effect, what yall think

[cursive summit]

It's smoother cause it updates faster

And very much smoother

Night and day difference

Seriously you have cash to shell out or can afford a loan for 12 months or so? Get a gaming TV

LG CX is your best bet

I was scared for the OLED screen but after shit ton of research I'm not too afraid of the burn in

Burn in seems very very minimal

[true quest]

for lg

[cursive summit]

Just don't get the CX 48"

It's trash

Yep LG CX is an OLED

Samsung 80/90t is QLED LCD

[pale sigil]

idk but but im really not feeling comfortable witht his card haha

[ashen spindle]

then dont buy it

[cursive summit]

Send it to me instead

Buyers remorse will become an act of charity

[pale sigil]

ill keep the order

for a bit

Maybe till wed

[shadow minnow]

Just don't get the CX 48"
It's trash
@cursive summit is it really?

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jwmxs9/rx_6800_xt_sam_boost/

looks like it indeed alleviates cpu bottleneck

[ashen spindle]

Ehh should do a bit more since it does something at 4K

Hope someone reads into the pcie spec and breaks down how it works, I’m not too knowledgeable about it to do so myself, maybe Wendel or Ian will do it

[latent mural]

@ashen spindle do you know when the 60% would come out?

[vast moss]

It's speculation, not an announcement. If it does, it would probably be later into 2021 if not into 2022

[wheat plume]

Windows doesnt like when I use my headphones on the front audio jack on the case....

wtf ;-;

It works fine in ubuntu but when I switch to Windows it cant play audio through them but it knows they are there

[latent mural]

Is the wooting two HE a really good keyboard?

im thinking of buying it

[misty saffron]

the factory workers aren’t on this server i don’t think

[latent mural]

oh damn

rip lol

[vast moss]

idk but but im really not feeling comfortable with this card haha
Which card?

[sinful nimbus]

soooo i was bored. decided to try out a new linux operating system. its called nixos. lot of fun to configure as once you configure it you know it will always work. think docker for your desktop. and to my suprise they have built in support for wooting and the wootility.

was litterally one setting.

[vast moss]

So did the Wootility come with it, or did you have to download it but then do one thing and have it work immediately?

[halcyon moss]

I dont completely understand your question.

If you're asking if wootility is on a cd in the package, then no.

[vast moss]

to my suprise they have built in support for wooting and the wootility
I'm basically just asking what is meant by this

[cursive summit]

New router

Finally good wired connection

Weirdly enough, the download speed on my phone fell

But it behaves more fluid

Makes sense considering my phone is wifi5

[tender sparrow]

Still using copper wiring that seems old enough to date back to World War 2. I hate living in the slums

[vast moss]

I live in rural WI, where I'm lucky to get 1 Mbps down

[tender sparrow]

Rural areas here have the best net, but that's probably because they're epicenters for industry and farming is very high tech

Unless you're one of the rich people in the city

[halcyon moss]

also easier to open up the streets

[vast moss]

Plenty of farmers here too, but we've still got Frontier as our main ISP in the rural parts

[tender sparrow]

Lol Frontier

My condolences

Rural areas here have Charter

Infinitely better

[vast moss]

We also have Viasat, but of course, since it's satellite-based, (1) we're rural in a particularly forested region so it's probably not the most viable; (2) poor weather would mean even worse if any service

[cursive summit]

Just pay for Starlink

Good connection

[vast moss]

Starlink?

[cursive summit]

Starlink satellites that provide internet from space

Just need a dish for it

[tender sparrow]

$100 a month. Have fun.

Elon Musk wasn't done overcharging you for Tesla

[cursive summit]

If you can't get normal net, that's not a bad price for actually decent net

[chrome estuary]

500$ install charge
100$ a month.
Kinda funny how the fuckin dude talking about prices before the beta came out was all like "You shouldn't pay more than 70$ for high speed internet."

[cursive summit]

Submitted a survey of sorts 😄

My purchase qualifies for a legal copy of Cyberpunk, so why not

Starlink's really useless if you live in a rural area where cable will be far more consistent and reliable option

I only see it useful if you live in a countryside place, where you can't get a cable and the coverage of other cellular networks is bad

Say a forest or some shit

Then Starlink is actually quite great

Also what install charge?

The thing already comes nearly put together

Just pop the dish on the stand, turn it on, face it to the sky and in 15 mins you'll have internet

[chrome estuary]

I meant equioment

[cursive summit]

Who said you shouldn't pay more than 70 bucks?

Genuinely interested

Musk?

[reef patrol]

Shouldn't need to anyhow 😄

I pay 55$ a month for 500/500

[vast moss]

From CNBC's article on Starlink's pricing

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/27/spacex-starlink-service-priced-at-99-a-month-public-beta-test-begins.html

[cursive summit]

True, it's expensive

But it's not aimed for in-city use

It's quite literally made to provide network for low-coverage areas

[vast moss]

I live in the middle of next to nowhere where I have a few people on my road but the population density is probably not even 25 people per square mile

[pale sigil]

Star link sounded cool till I heard the price

[cursive summit]

Remains to be seen how much it costs in other countries

Or after beta period

It might go down in price, might go up, might stay the same

Who knows

[pale sigil]

Probably will

Especially if they change their direction

[cursive summit]

It'll be really appealing for people living in weird places like fields, deserts, Greenland, Antarctica, etc

[pale sigil]

They went to be in areas thst have bad Internet but also want to charge twice as much if not more

[cursive summit]

That's highly counterproductive

[shadow minnow]

I hoped that AMD will bring some good RT performance so Nvidia has to catch up, and finally released RT card that has same or very similar performance when RT is on, compared to it being off. But it looks like...

[ashen spindle]

no thats just musk

[cursive summit]

If an area has no network it's usually due to just bad economic situation

Pricing it shittily will just kill the product for potential customers

[pale sigil]

Also sadly mansen

I pay more and get less than you

[cursive summit]

@shadow minnow Everyone already talked about it, no one cares

[pale sigil]

[ashen spindle]

if you even get anything at all

[pale sigil]

The benchmarks are so stupid

[cursive summit]

Callum you're still on the line for 6800XT?

[pale sigil]

Hoping to find out today

Till then I have a 3080 ordered

[cursive summit]

Hoping for all the best bud

I hope you don't get to buy an Nvidia card

[pale sigil]

Same

[cursive summit]

Dunno something about 10G VRAM sounds concerning

[pale sigil]

Ngl

Whet nah

10gb I'll never use

[ashen spindle]

oh you most definitely will

[cursive summit]

My 5700 has 8GBs, and I can use up that many for 1080p RDR2

[shadow minnow]

Also, about starlink price, I hope it will be priced based on regions, as in some countries it may not sell at all for 99$.
In my country you can get 1000/50 internet for 25€
I sadly live in village where I have 20/5 for 20€. Still better than paying 99€ for internet though

[cursive summit]

Make that 4K, then even 10GB is weird

[pale sigil]

I've never maxed out my current cards memory

[ashen spindle]

My 5700 has 8GBs, and I can use up that many for 1080p RDR2
reported memory usage != actual memory used

[pale sigil]

I don't plan on going 4k for at least 5 years

[cursive summit]

True

But hey it's concerning

[vast moss]

I don't plan on going 4k

[pale sigil]

Either way let's hope I get an answer today

[ashen spindle]

godfall uses 12GB for 4k maxed out, so yes, you wont need more on release, but I dont think you plan to upgrade next year already

[cursive summit]

I genuinely am, and I got no clue why I'm going for 4K

[shadow minnow]

I want to go 4k 144

Next year

[vast moss]

It may be good for gaming detail, but display scaling in high-res monitors isn't always great for desktop usage

[cursive summit]

I'll be gaming on a 4K TV..

[pale sigil]

I will only go 4k if 144hz is viable

Meh I don't like gaming on me TV

[cursive summit]

Dunno the TV I'm going for is 4K@120Hz

[pale sigil]

I just don't like playing at a distance

[cursive summit]

Valid reason tbh

[ashen spindle]

TV's also usually have the issue of worse input lag and worse respone times or overshoot

[cursive summit]

Not an issue on mine

<10 ms input

Though never thought about gaming at a distance

Might be weird to adjust

But it's a fairly decent 55" display so.. we'll see

[ashen spindle]

uhh 10ms is quite a different beast to 1ms

[shadow minnow]

Even gaming monitors oftenly have input lag not far away from 10ms

And also, if it is OLED, it could have lot better pixel response... but if not
Personally I would not want to game on TV, apart from LG CX. Was thinking about getting LG CX because I really like OLED contrast and response times

[cursive summit]

Not wrong at all

1ms is usually far from the truth

Plus 10ms I doubt is very noticeable

[ashen spindle]

yes about the same as 10ms is equally far away

[cursive summit]

That's actually wrong since 10ms is a test result

[ashen spindle]

ok so you were talking about grey 2 grey response time, which is where those number are even better for a monitor

[cursive summit]

Well we are talking about good or.. gooder

It's already good enough not to be noticeable

[pale sigil]

Even if a TV had godly response time

On a personal level I don't like playing on em

[shadow minnow]

Honestly I would not go for AMD GPU this gen yet. AMD got closer to NVIDIA, but still there are few issues, like underperforming / missing features nvidia has like DLSS and RT, and drivers make me bit worried if same issues will not appear again.
Availability is really bad, but that is true for both sides...

[pale sigil]

Spoken like an apple fan boy

[cursive summit]

Drivers are fine

[pale sigil]

;)

[cursive summit]

And DLSS will come with 6900XT

I'm relatively sure of that

[ashen spindle]

120 hz means every G2g value needs to be below 8ms or it falls out of the refresh window

[cursive summit]

They did mention next few months so still on track for 2020

[ashen spindle]

so 12 ms or higher as shown on your picture, means you dont get real 120hz

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/release-the-hounds-the-simpsons-running-dogs-hounds-gif-17860306

I feel like this is quin in here

[ashen spindle]

missing features nvidia has like [..] RT
please dont just write lies

[shadow minnow]

I said missing/underperforming

RT is not missing

But is underperforming

[cursive summit]

Now who gives a fuck?

[ashen spindle]

it is in the first instance already better than nvidias first attempt, they are competing 1st vs 3rd attempt on nvidias side

they are good engineers but they dont do black magic

[cursive summit]

Anyways the reported input lag results are:
1080p @ 60 Hz 10.1 ms
1080p @ 60 Hz without Game Mode 79.5 ms
1440p @ 60 Hz 9.8 ms
4k @ 60 Hz 9.8 ms
4k @ 60 Hz + 10 bit HDR 9.7 ms
4k @ 60 Hz @ 4:4:4 9.9 ms
4k @ 60 Hz Outside Game Mode 66.4 ms
4k @ 60 Hz With Interpolation 22.0 ms
1080p @ 120 Hz 5.4 ms
1440p @ 120 Hz 5.3 ms
4k @ 120 Hz 5.8 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate 6.4 ms
1440p with VRR 7.2 ms
4k with VRR 7.1 ms

[shadow minnow]

I know. Just saying I personally am going for nvidia GPU this gen. But I think AMD may catch up with everything as soon as next gen.

[cursive summit]

You're going for M1, stop lying apple fanboy

[shadow minnow]

I am not

[ashen spindle]

sure, if you play only minecraft rtx I could've told you that as early as 2 years ago, that amd wont compete there at this time

nobody ever thought otherwise

[cursive summit]

Someone thought AMD would be good at something that uses RT cores?

[ashen spindle]

that is not what this is about

bc in general they are good at that

[vast moss]

If I get a card from this generation, I'm probably going AMD because AMD actually plays nice with Linux

[cursive summit]

Meh in general AMD's RT perf is good for a first try

[ashen spindle]

also, it seems like people are forgetting the 6900xt is not released yet :p

[pale sigil]

Bexin

We love ya lad

But hard to take you serious with thst profile pic haha

[ashen spindle]

also hard to take serious with out it, when you just cherry pick points of a gigantic discussion and ignore the rest

[cursive summit]

@pale sigil He was ever taken seriously?

I stopped after he couldn't tell me the exact reason he wouldn't want a non-Apple watch

[pale sigil]

I mean

Tbh

Other than price apple watches are great

[cursive summit]

They do seem good

But 3x the price of what they should be

But hey it's just the Apple tax

30% cost of the product, 70% bitten apple logo

[vast moss]

What other options are out there for smartwatches? I know Samsung makes their own, but I wouldn't say Samsung has a nice price either

[cursive summit]

Well Samsung's far better priced

[pale sigil]

Samsung tax

[vast moss]

Admittedly I don't follow the prices for new devices, incl. smartphones, tablets, and smart watches, but in general Samsung's smartphone prices don't look competitive to Apple's

could be different for smart watches, but again, idk what a smart watch costs

[cursive summit]

Just a tad over 100$

Compared to Apple's what, 400$?

[pale sigil]

Samsung is not a tad but over 100

if you want the good version

here they are 375 quid

[cursive summit]

Hm

[pale sigil]

aint the watch 3

😉

[cursive summit]

Again, half off Apple's price

[pale sigil]

Gear S3

aint the watch 3

gear is their budgety line

[cursive summit]

This one?

[pale sigil]

mhmm

Apple Watch SE is 250 here

which is pretty decent

[old marlin]

Is an se though

[pale sigil]

oh for sure

[shadow minnow]

also hard to take serious with out it, when you just cherry pick points of a gigantic discussion and ignore the rest
@ashen spindle was just saying my opinion on that card And did not have time to react to all points, so just said negatives 😄

[pale sigil]

but its bettr than the samsung ones

afaik

[ashen spindle]

it was in general, not just this time

[cursive summit]

I don't even see the point of paying 300 quid for a "smart" watch when you can either get a 5$ mechanical classic watch or a 30$ fitbit

What's so "Smart" about them in general

[shadow minnow]

Also one of reasons why I rather wanted Apple Watch is that I do not have to carry my phone everywhere anymore, and also advantages of ecosystem, like Apple Pay...
I am Apple fanboy, to be honest. But not completely Apple sheep, that is why I am buying normal pc rather than MacBook...

[cursive summit]

Not for long you sheepie, choke on that M1 Apple Silicon

[pale sigil]

bro

calm down

to far

[shadow minnow]

What's so "Smart" about them in general
@cursive summit well, you can call with it, pay with it..., it is not just fitness device.
It is something like watch combined with phone, just missing camera, and has smaller screen size and less apps.

[cursive summit]

Just being sarcastic 😄

[pale sigil]

doesn't matter.

[cursive summit]

Who pays with a watch??

[pale sigil]

Ugh, Bexin it does the same as other smart watches

Also id pay with watch if i had one

😄

[cursive summit]

Can't you just swipe the card or use the card NFC thingy?

[pale sigil]

Imaging using a card in 2020

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-frog-cave-gif-14781630

[shadow minnow]

I am not carrying my credit card with me anywhere anymore

[pale sigil]

tbh when i travellled a lot everyday i wish i had a watch to pay for shit

and other stuff

[vast moss]

I only got a debit card last year, still use it for many purchases.

[shadow minnow]

I could pay with phone, but it is even simpler with Apple Watch, you do not need to take anything out of your pocket

[pale sigil]

i find that so weird

i got my first card at 11 years old

[vast moss]

I should consider using cash more, but admittedly it's nice being able just to keep it all in an account

[ashen spindle]

But not completely Apple sheep
idk you recently mentioned you didn't like louis rossman when he criticized apple for some 8-core stuff, now I hear that apple tries/tried to call their 4/4 big.little design an 8 core and that is a scam imo

[cursive summit]

@pale sigil I got mine only at age of 16

[vast moss]

I was 18 when I got mine

[ashen spindle]

I got my card when I went to the US and only used it there

[cursive summit]

Which is why I am still used to a card

[pale sigil]

louis rossman

Oh god if you dont like Louis you're a certified sheep

[cursive summit]

Though I do use my phone at times for NFC transactions

[ashen spindle]

never bought anything here without cash in person

[vast moss]

Only got a checking account just before I left for university

[pale sigil]

i use cash maybe 5 times a year max

[shadow minnow]

I also did not believe Apple M1 claims at first, and also, the pricing of extra ram and storage is just too much on macs.
400$ for extra 16gb ram in 2020....

[vast moss]

Sometimes my debit card isn't accepted at places, so I do keep some cash as a backup (also for if I need to make a transaction with not card)

[pale sigil]

its quite rare this is an issue here

[shadow minnow]

I either pay with phone or with normal cash in person, and use debit card just for online shopping

But cause of corona I have not payed for anything long time

[pale sigil]

a majority are cashless in the uk

[vast moss]

I tend to use Privacy.com for online purchases, debit card for in person ones

[pale sigil]

i wish i could use privacy.com

😦

[vast moss]

not in a supported region?

[shadow minnow]

I wish I could just have ISIC in Apple wallet and would not need to carry any card with me anywhere I go

[vast moss]

louis rossman
two s, two n. rossmann

[pale sigil]

privacy.com dont like the us

or anywhere

[vast moss]

I'm from US-WI and I can use it just fine :v

[pale sigil]

outside the us

i meant

Us

as in us

as in the uk

xD

sorry

[vast moss]

plural of "me"?

ok

[pale sigil]

we have https://www.revolut.com/

but ugh

no id

😉

[cursive summit]

I always thought Revolut's a russian scam

[pale sigil]

isn't everything a russian or chinese scam

these days

[shadow minnow]

[vast moss]

"it's only fair"

[shadow minnow]

[vast moss]

well, at least they're honest about the mark-up

[shadow minnow]

What does fair mean?
Fair 20% mark up

[pale sigil]

i wouldn't spend over 1000

all i know is we can generate cards

https://donotpay.com/

have this too

[cursive summit]

A what?

[pale sigil]

but it coasts 35 a hyear

[cursive summit]

Wait, free money?

That's a joke right?

[pale sigil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DoNotPay

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/parking-tickets-lawyer-bot

afaik it basically becomes a middle man bot

[reef patrol]

Hah.

[pale sigil]

but personally

not why i care

[ashen spindle]

btw speaking of apple, seems like with the whole deal of epic's lawsuit they finally went ahead and reduced costs for apps that make less than I think a milliion? to 15% instead of 30 so thats a good change

[pale sigil]

ye

[vast moss]

a step in the right direction

[pale sigil]

i think we killed the ebuyer twitter

[solar hinge]

"it's only fair"
@vast moss
This whole weekend crap... Like they suddenly do it manually or turn of the servers that do everything... Or like normal banks not transferring money in the weekend... Such bs

[vast moss]

I'm not advocating for it

or was that sarcasm?

[solar hinge]

I was adding sarcasm to your sarcasm

[shadow minnow]

[vast moss]

oh, ok :v

[pale sigil]

Ayyup ebuyer woke up on twitter

they keep telling people to dm again

EVEN THOUGH THEIR DMS ARE CLOSED

[reef patrol]

[cursive summit]

No one told them DMs are closed?

[pale sigil]

everyone

[halcyon moss]

for twitter dm they need to follow you, you them

[ashen spindle]

Nope, you can open them, especially a business account usually has that

[reef patrol]

Yep

The whole back and forth is for private accounts.

[zenith sonnet]

So, I was chatting with a colleague who was 'building a gaming PC for 2 years now'

[reef patrol]

[zenith sonnet]

He had case, PSU, RAM, mainboard, CPU fan, ... , only really missing a CPU and GPU

Tried to find out what parts he had

Actually pretty good stuff mostly, and he knows NOTHING of it

Dark Rock Pro 4 cooler, Trident Z Platinum memory

And here it comes:
He bought a H270 board thinking he could stick any 'Socket 1151' CPU in it

[crimson wigeon]

Oh no

[zenith sonnet]

Not knowing that chipsets are only compatible with certain CPUs and that there are different versions of that socket

[pale sigil]

GIVE ME ALL YOUR 3080S

OR 6800 XTS

[zenith sonnet]

But it gets better

Today he told me he sold off the board to a guy for a small loss

And casually bought a 5950X off that guy for 840€ in exchange

[crimson wigeon]

Oh my

[zenith sonnet]

Not knowing nothing about the recent launch and shortage

[halcyon moss]

and a seemingly good price too

[pale sigil]

the 6800 XTs were such a decent price here

im so sad i failed to get one

AMD has told us stock should improve towards the end of November and into December. Overclockers UK is also expecting a small amount of 5950x by end of the week.

So basically no go for me then xD

[reef patrol]

GIVE ME ALL YOUR 3080S
@pale sigil
https://c.tenor.com/gyHhQg_8d38AAAAM/reverse-nozumi.gif

[misty pier]

welcome to the waiting game

[pale sigil]

@reef patrol i doubt youd want a palit gpu

I have 2x 5600x pre orders so its a literal race

[reef patrol]

A 3080 is a 3080. I'd rip the cooler off anyway.

[pale sigil]

ye but no oc protential

[reef patrol]

Don't care.

[pale sigil]

Fair

[reef patrol]

I just want a 3080 to in my loop. And it's looking it'll be next year

[pale sigil]

i still need t pick a case

[reef patrol]

Pesky shipping. Could have sold you my Dynamic O11

[pale sigil]

would not want it anyway

isn't for me

[misty pier]

make your own case

DIY that shit like ikea

[halcyon moss]

just 6 pieces of wood

couple of screws

[reef patrol]

Like Quinn. 😆

[halcyon moss]

what did @solar hinge do

[zenith sonnet]

Who'd want a 3080 at this point?

6800/XT seems like a much better deal

[crimson wigeon]

For Nvidia magic features like DLSS RTX VOICE etc

[solar hinge]

what did @solar hinge do
@halcyon moss I'm making my own wooden case

[halcyon moss]

nice

like this?
http://photos.sevarg.net/russ/albums/ROOTWood/P6270004.sized.jpg

[solar hinge]

Haha no

I can look for the pictures later

[zenith sonnet]

like DLSS RTX VOICE
So, pretty much nothing?

And if you're buying the card specifically for one of the five games that support DLSS, it's a special use case anyway

[crimson wigeon]

NVENC

[zenith sonnet]

What for?
Anyone who needs good quality does CPU encode
Anyone who doesn't will be fine with the AMD encoder as well

[crimson wigeon]

People have been brainwashed into thinking only Nvidia can do HW video encode..
anyway.. CUDA

[zenith sonnet]

Then by all means buy an NVidia card

But CUDA is a special use case as well

[ashen spindle]

hmm, if I dont get a 6800xt on the AiB launch next week I wonder if I should try for a higher vram model 3080, if those do come out

[zenith sonnet]

Sure, it's widely supported in certain softwares

But those are, overall, still not in wide use

@ashen spindle Depends on what you value most in your next GPU?

[reef patrol]

Not quite cat safe, but it'll do till I get my XL case back.

[ashen spindle]

has something... unique to it

[zenith sonnet]

For me, the frame times on the 6800 XT alone would have me sold

[ashen spindle]

did you get a confirmation on your order btw mansen?

or rather, an update since yesterday?

don't make me ping you @reef patrol

[reef patrol]

Oh I got a confirmation alright - A confirmation that they oversold and I didn't get one.

[ashen spindle]

rip

just a cancellation or did you get put in queue?

[reef patrol]

No queue.

[ashen spindle]

oof

[reef patrol]

Once they refund me, I'll just put in a backorder on a 3080 and wait and see.

[misty pier]

are they going to brand their refresh cards as ti or super

[ashen spindle]

super ti max OMEGA

[reef patrol]

Who knows at this point. TI apparently.

And then I guess Super as a refresh later.

[pale sigil]

As much as i hated you getting one at first

[ashen spindle]

but yeah, for now Ti makes the most sense to slot it in between existing ones

[pale sigil]

I genuinely am annoyed for you mansen

That sucks

[reef patrol]

I am so gutted. ngl.

Thought I had finally gotten the last puzzle piece for my Cyberpunk 2.0 loop setup.

But I guess I'll just have to re-water my 2080 (siiiiigh) and then let that run till next year probably.

[ashen spindle]

well there is still the launch next week

[reef patrol]

Doesn't really help me due to waterblock uncertainty.

[ashen spindle]

well, I'd assume most models are known beforehand so you at least know which ones would work

[reef patrol]

Oh no - The other way around I'm afraid.

[misty pier]

what a chaotic year to buy hardware

[reef patrol]

First cards, then EKWB and friends can analyze the PCB and figure out blocks.

SOMETIMES they get a few of them early, but with the stock shortage it is unlikely af.

There's a reason why Linus Tech Tips received a "beta" waterblock that didn't actually fit 😄

[ashen spindle]

erm, I meant we will know if some cards use the reference PCB design

not for all, but for some designs

[reef sluice]

2nd loop pog, can't believe hardware has 2 loops

[reef patrol]

Maybe one or two. But never all of them.

And it's never consistent.

My 2080 Zotac was reference. The 3080 is not.

[ashen spindle]

well you can for sure exlcude stuff like saphire toxic etc. bc high end like that use their own

but we'll see what we know beforehand in the next days

[reef patrol]

Gotta "spend" the money by end of month. Just backordering 3080 for now.

[ashen spindle]

worst case you get one that doesn't work and you can sell it to me ;P

[reef patrol]

No charges for me if I cancel it.

[pale sigil]

I think the launch next week is gonna cost so much

Vs how

[crimson wigeon]

Whta

[pale sigil]

Now

The reference cards were £670

Can guarantee next weeks aib are gonna be £750+

[ashen spindle]

there will be some for the same price and obv there will be more expensive ones

like always

[reef patrol]

We're already at 3080 prices here. People are going to pickfork if they try more xD

[ashen spindle]

well thats on the retailers

you can only expect so many cards to actually sell at MSRP if people just buy it at +200$ anyway

[reef patrol]

Doh.

Backordered the wrong variant. Gotta wait for a refund tomorrow xD

[pale sigil]

FFFFFFFFFFFF

Can have my 3080 if ya want

[reef patrol]

Gib

[pale sigil]

If you pay delivery

[ashen spindle]

you still believe you actually can get that anytime soon ?

[pale sigil]

And I don't get a 6800 XT

No

😂

[reef patrol]

Statistically he'll get his before. Larger retailer, further ahead on queue xD

[pale sigil]

For real tho mansen

[ashen spindle]

that assume his model is one that will get a decent % of production

which I doubt

[pale sigil]

If I get a 6800 XT 25th

[reef patrol]

We'll talk shop after that. 😄

[pale sigil]

Same with my 5600x

If I get both

I don't wanna scalp but giving someone the opertunity to buy it and pay delivery is good

At the real price

[hard thicket]

the 3090 prices are hella stable now

the AIB cards used to be 1800-2000 bucks

dropped down to 1550-1800

probably to many canceled orders because of the 6800

[pale sigil]

they were always 1300-1500 pounds here

[hard thicket]

good to be a prosumer

[wheat plume]

using the screen when its only on the phone by the cable is trippy

[slate shore]

Minecraft levitation effect

[reef sluice]

chuck the phone into an end city

what goes up shall never come down

[wheat plume]

:')

[misty pier]

🤔

[vagrant marsh]

Man, this might be the foirst time i dont see ANY webshop advertising the new hardware that released the past 2 months.

No nvidia. No amd. No intel. Thats the weirdest thing, not even the intel cpu's are advertised. Its like they all agreed on something

[ashen spindle]

no point advertising whats sold out

[urban lynx]

^

advertising something they cant deliver within (probably) weeks, seems like aiming a rifle at your own feet.

[reef patrol]

Yup. Biggest shops here removed the products the instant they were gone.

[ashen spindle]

shops already getting blamed enough for stuff thats out of their hand

[reef patrol]

They've since added new SKUs with zero stock as "coming soon" though.

[vagrant marsh]

Belenux hardly had any 6800's

[reef patrol]

Belenux 😄

[pale sigil]

they are listed here but cant buy

[latent mural]

I hope the dualsense adaptive triggers and rumble will carry over

[reef patrol]

Proshop - Biggest shop here only received... I think 27.8% of what AMD had promised to send them. Hard to do much there 😄

[latent mural]

I'm surprised AMD dropped the ball this hard on shipments

all they needed to do was beat Nvidia and they would have been fine lmao

[vagrant marsh]

Paper launch

[latent mural]

paper launch for now, hopefully it gets better sooner than Nvidia

[ashen spindle]

cards have a lower margin that cpu's or console chips

and they are maxed out on wavers, so you they are allocating it to where the bigger margins come from first

for the most part

[latent mural]

does anyone know if the 6000 series is on 7/7NP or 7+?

7nm I mean

[ashen spindle]

more or less the same node

[urban lynx]

ngl. i never had heard of the ProShop until like february, when i had to get a good psu for a fair price...
and even was really fast for coming from denmark

[ashen spindle]

it's a customized process with what tsmc and amd combined to meet demand

and from waver production standpoint, they use the same tools so making a product on either doesn't allow more production on the other

[latent mural]

well i'm pretty sure that the consoles are using 7nm+

so the EUV node

[ashen spindle]

7NP is not using euv

[latent mural]

7NP and 7nm+ are two different things

7NP is just a higher performance library and 7nm+ is the EUV

[ashen spindle]

urgh I hate that they renamed the process midway through

Milan is using N7+, RDNA1 was already using N7+, so rdna2 should be the same

N7P was the DUV not EUV one, right

[latent mural]

process names don't really need to make sense because they're only intending to advertise to devs

also yeah

[ashen spindle]

oh I dont care about that, its just annoying if it gets changed midway through the lifecycle

and iirc correctly the overlap is at the EUV machines for N5 and N7+, as well as some N7P and N7 iirc

[latent mural]

I don't know tbh

but that would make sense

[ashen spindle]

well for the EUV overlap that one is known for sure, thats why apple moving to N5 didn't really free up space for anyone

[latent mural]

especially since I don't see why N7P would need a different assembly line when it's just using a different library

[latent mural]

Does the lekker two/ HE two HE have 0 debounce delay?

[ashen spindle]

uhh im not sure if that is what you'd call it on a keyboard, but sounds like rapid trigger is just the thing for you

[ashen spindle]

damn that is impressive for amd , especially at 4k

[latent mural]

I wonder if it has to do with the 16GB VRAM

[ashen spindle]

shouldn't be

[vagrant marsh]

what im looking at? more stable framerate?

[old marlin]

ye

[vagrant marsh]

its still lower tho

[old marlin]

flatter line is better

like flatter line is usually better than better average

[vagrant marsh]

but its still lower

[ashen spindle]

yes, that is better as well

[old marlin]

oh yea

that is not fps

but frametime

lower frametime = more fps

[vagrant marsh]

oh, i see now. frametime

lower is better

thought we were about fps. i did say framerate

[old marlin]

I mean

that is still the case

[vagrant marsh]

[shadow minnow]

I have been using MagSafe since I got my 12 pro max - at launch date and here are my thoughts on it:
High price
It is both very good but also a bad product.
It has lot slower charging speed, maybe even less than half
It charges lot faster and gets hotter first 20%
It leaves mark on Apple silicone case very soon
But also, it is very practical
You can angle it anyway, and without case you can rotate it even when it is attached
You can get rid of it by one hand
It does not fell of on it’s own
It looks and feels good
When you want to do software update it requires your phone to be 50% charged when wirelessly charging instead of 20% when using wire, although it is pointless as most of updates are so fast, 10% or even 5 of battery at it’s own would be enough
But still, because of the charging speed and update thing, I was thinking about going back to lightning, but decided to stay with MagSafe charger

[cursive summit]

Didn't ask @shadow minnow

I sincerely doubt anyone here is interested in any Apple phones

[shadow minnow]

There are tech people interested in iPhones, just not that many, but I am sure there are more people using iPhone in this discord than just me

So just saying it if someone is interested, do not care that you did not ask, why are you so offensive?

[cursive summit]

Offensive?

I'm not offensive

I take great care not to insult your feelings

I just don't like your apple advertisements

[shadow minnow]

Am I advertising it?

I mean, What I have written is not very positive 😄

[cursive summit]

Felt like a Linus Tech Tips type of ad

[shadow minnow]

It kinda does, but there are also negatives included.
The charging speed is just...

[cursive summit]

Linus doesn't sugarcoat anything

[shadow minnow]

Also, idk how is it possible, but in EKWB discord, 3 out of 6 most active people use iPhones, although it is tech discord 😄

[hard thicket]

i personally use iphone just because of the convenient OS

lol

[cursive summit]

Paid $hills

[ashen spindle]

expensive tech related server has 3 active people who also have expensive tech, wow, how is that possible

[shadow minnow]

I mean, there also are expensive androids with more customization possibility which you would expect people building custom watercooling to want, or idk 😄

[cursive summit]

Right I'm getting pissed off

[fickle ore]

@cursive summit tbh you're always an ass

[hard thicket]

let people enjoy things ffs

[cursive summit]

SystemActive in UK are getting VRs from HP, and Bestware got fucked by a 2 week delay

[neat oriole]

Android phones are actually getting more expensive than iPhones

Apple with the 4D chess

[latent mural]

wait so does the HE use lekker x gateron switches?

[ashen spindle]

Yes

[neat oriole]

Release kilobuck phone.
Wait for androids to copy them.
Release cheaper flagship
???
Profit

[latent mural]

oh ok because on here it says .12ms debounce delay https://na.wooting.store/products/wooting-two-he-full-size-analog-keyboard

but on here it says it has no debounce delay

https://wooting.io/wooting_two_he

do you know why that is?

[ashen spindle]

idk

[fickle ore]

well the debounce delay is 0,01ms so that is pretty much zero, of course not absolute zero 😄

[misty pier]

🤔

[fickle ore]

were there any valorant/csgo/ow benchmarks of the new radeon 6800/xt vs 3070/80?

[ashen spindle]

uhh doubt it

csgo maybe in a few

[fickle ore]

hmh wud be cool to see

[cursive summit]

CS:GO 6800XT vs 3080

[ashen spindle]

you gotta show a lot more than two random numbers

[cursive summit]

1440p

i9-10900K

[ashen spindle]

just link the fucking site

[cursive summit]

Yeah that's the problem

https://www.theverge.com/21571414/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt-review

[ashen spindle]

ok so we are still at 0 benchmarks of it

[hard thicket]

buying 3080 or 6800 for esport games

uhm

[cursive summit]

non-XT or XT?

Cause for eSports games you don't need 3080 type of caliber at all

[hard thicket]

since the 3080 is included i'd say XT

[cursive summit]

Save a few bucks with 3070 - 6800

[fickle ore]

Jesus christ, CS:GO is a dx9 game. AMD has shitty dx9 perf afaik so it probably loses there

Completely forgot about that

[hard thicket]

you have more benefits from spending on your cps and ram there

[cursive summit]

Until that Source 2 port, it will stay that way

[hard thicket]

source 2 for csgo wont happen

[cursive summit]

But yes it will, most likely

[fickle ore]

I hope CS:GO dies asap

what a terrible game

[hard thicket]

highly doubt on that

and that too

it's currently peaking lol

[cursive summit]

@fickle ore where did you get the dx9 figure

I am finding dx11 compatibilities

And it seems native on dx11

[ashen spindle]

its dx9

9.5 or whatever its exact api version idk

[cursive summit]

Welp got to wait for Source 2 and Vulkan support then

[fickle ore]

DX9EX (dxlvl98)

[ashen spindle]

it will not get vulkan nor dx12 probably ever

[hard thicket]

if they go source 2, they'd have to recreate the whole game

makes not much sense the

[fickle ore]

I don't play cs:go that much so mehh, but still annoying since AMD's Dx9 perf sucks

[hard thicket]

including the whole skin economy and so on

[fickle ore]

gw2, witcher2, etc so bad performance

dxvk works

but

not for csgo

[ashen spindle]

new engine does not mean you make a new game version

[cursive summit]

Source 2 is a 3D video game engine in development by Valve. The engine is capable of rendering highly complex and well detailed scenes with minimal framerate drops, thanks to its new 64-bit support alongside Vulkan.

[ashen spindle]

can easily make a upgrade to source 2 without touching economy

[hard thicket]

no, but tons of work

[ashen spindle]

yes thanks mr wikipedia

[hard thicket]

and we are speaking of valve here

[cursive summit]

Unless what the engine is built on, and support are completely different things

[ashen spindle]

why do I even bother discussing this

[fickle ore]

Apparently Valve's issue with DX12/Vulkan wasn't that they couldn't do it. It was already ready years ago. It's just that they didn't wanna do it, because ppl would've have to redo all custom maps.. (like that is a problem..?)

Maybe it is for some

[cursive summit]

That is a problem, and if you're talking about what VNN said, that's far from confirmed

[ashen spindle]

the only official thing is that valve did go on a talk like 6 years ago, saying dx12 makes no sense vs vulkan for them in any situation

and sure, if 350 instead of 400 fps at 4k are an issue for you, yeah then you need nvidia I guess

the issues with like witcher and such iirc are because they use heavy tesselation, which is a weakness of amd for the longest time

thats why hairworks is dogshit on amd card

[fickle ore]

Yeah that prob exacerbates it

But their dx9 perf been a known issue

[ashen spindle]

well, iirc dx9 had a big tesselation push/feature change so parts of that links to it

[fickle ore]

Hmmh

[ashen spindle]

purely based on remembering what feature levels I need to target to get tesselation running in unity shaders

[fickle ore]

CS:GO is so old, let's just instead kill it and dx9 with fire. 😛

[ashen spindle]

why kill it, are 400fps not enough for you with current hardware lol

[fickle ore]

It is, lol. Just wondering if switching out 1060 to a 6700xt will get me reduced rendering performance

Doesn't matter, I don't even play it..

[ashen spindle]

[shadow minnow]

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle Incase you didn't understand what I meant.. What I really wanted to say, depending on how dx9 works on amd 6000 series: 800fps cpu sim (1,25ms) + 250 fps?? (4ms) gpu render => 5ms total chain inputlag vs using 3000 series gpu 2.5ms (1,25ms + 1-1.5ms). This is just hypothetical scenario, and in reality AMD might render as fast in dx9.

[ashen spindle]

well that just is another point for making fps independent input stuff right?

[fickle ore]

Yeah, should be a norm these days. Hell, slap a green eco label on it. Wouldn't need to run as high frames.

[pale sigil]

0 context video

[slate shore]

Band

[pale sigil]

not sure why its named that

lol

[slate shore]

...

k

[pale sigil]

Some old videos I found

[chrome estuary]

Oh that last one hurts to watch

[wheat plume]

UwU

no case gang :')

[misty saffron]

some linux distro on monitor

yep, that’s lana

[wheat plume]

but this aint me :P

https://youtu.be/MT-Tgu4uo6E

the only hardware I have spare is my old PC

[misty saffron]

ah right yeah looks too stock

[wheat plume]

and that has a dead CMOS and no storage drive

ah right yeah looks too stock
@misty saffron LEL

yeah

[pale sigil]

Sigh

[wheat plume]

I hope that is the issue with the old PC, that the CMOS battery needs replacement

[pale sigil]

Lately watching stuff on my left monitor just isn't possible

[wheat plume]

o?

[pale sigil]

videos regardless of application will just freeze or have bad framerate as soon as i open a game

[wheat plume]

oh, thats strange :/

but its fine any other time?

[pale sigil]

mhmm

[wheat plume]

not sure on that one

[misty saffron]

swear to god

must be gsync

[pale sigil]

its since i updated my drivers

[wheat plume]

gpu drivers?

[pale sigil]

i dont have gsync

dye

its weird

its as soon as i tab into a game even if its windowed

[wheat plume]

that used to happen to me but with certain apps like discord and Firefox

but everything else didnt lag

[pale sigil]

you can tell when i minimize and maximize

[wheat plume]

wtf

[slate shore]

Ah, John Oliver

The uh, one late night talk show host who's actually funny. Even though I disagree with him on a lot.

[tender sparrow]

He'll be out of a job in two months

[wheat plume]

is Scythe a good fan brand?

[slate shore]

Never heard of Scythe

Except for the tool you use for chopping at grain, I know what those kinds of scythes are

[wheat plume]

Hmm
Idk the difference
Time to investigate

[misty pier]

scythe is pretty good

[wheat plume]

Would they be less loud than the generic preinstalled case fans?

[misty pier]

maybe yeah

anything with rubber mounts should be quiet

[wheat plume]

ooh

[reef sluice]

I see reactOS up here

[wheat plume]

Yep

[reef sluice]

Last I saw mention of it someone got Touhou running, IN in particular

Forget how well it worked

[wheat plume]

omfh

getting the dang OS installed is a challenge on its own :P

[reef sluice]

Never tried, and sounds like I wouldn't want to

Lest I just want to see what it can do

[wheat plume]

me too

its a really nice idea for an OS

[zenith sonnet]

damn that is impressive for amd , especially at 4k
@ashen spindle
Been shouting about that since day 1 😄
It's probably the cache, though.
Anyway, that has me sold on AMD this time. It's bloody amazing through the bank.

[cursive summit]

Can't wait for miners to make an algorythm that makes use of the cache

Currently it sucks cause no algorythm (according to miners) takes use of it

I bet once the cache is succesfully utilized, the hashes will skyrocket

[ashen spindle]

where do you get that from

bc that sounds like a big load of bullshit

[cursive summit]

According to miners on rddt

And some other peopl

[ashen spindle]

ok so just bs

[cursive summit]

You never know until that happens

Unless you have a technical explanation

[ashen spindle]

it's the other way around, you need some sort of logic for assuming it can help, wtf is a cache supposed to help with tmk math that isn't using old date

[crimson wigeon]

Doubt the cache will help mining

[cursive summit]

Isn't mining taking use of memory?

I remember GCN cards with HBM had quite decent results

And Infinity Cache is just a small pool of ultra fast memory

Surely if utilized it can do something right?

[ashen spindle]

that statement applies to literally everything

I'm not saying it's not moving 0%, just nothing major

[halcyon moss]

i hope there isnt a second gpu crypto boom

that was annoying as shit and makes gaming cards super expensive

[ashen spindle]

doubt it, sure crypto is up now, but gpus are just not worth it from power draw anymore really

asic just are so far ahead in efficiency

[cursive summit]

No real point in getting a GPU when asic's exist

Also they aren't half badly priced

Getting a GPU just for mining you are just wasting money

[halcyon moss]

good

[reef patrol]

No real point in getting a GPU when asic's exist
@cursive summit Reselling is a bit of a reason.

I hear it is SUPER hard to re-sell ASICs cause of the niche market, and people know the return on them.

You can flip a mined GPU.

[ashen spindle]

@reef patrol https://videocardz.com/newz/evga-launches-geforce-rtx-3090-kingpin-hybrid-at-2000-usd here is your watercooling gpu you can get

[reef patrol]

[vagrant marsh]

2k? Damn

Thats more than the 2080ti

[ashen spindle]

almost like a 3090 is more expensive than a 2080ti ....

[vagrant marsh]

I know right

Its ludicrous

[old marlin]

lol

the Samsung SSD 980 PRO 1TB is sold out

[vagrant marsh]

Thats 2020 for ya

[ashen spindle]

not entirely sure but I think that one is using the same thing as the internal SSD on the ps5? so lots of demand to that place

@fickle ore in his undervolting tests igor also got an example of SAM = more fps but worse 1% lows, borderlands 3 in this test case

so it seems to be just a thing in some places for now

[zenith sonnet]

SAM is very hit and miss

Some games benefit greatly

Some don't benefit at all or see worse experience

I think Hitman and Valhalla are two examples where it works extremely well?

[cursive summit]

Aight I got trolled

Thought a retailer was selling PS5 at a loss, it was only a PS4

Clearing stock

[ashen spindle]

@reef patrol mindfactory has a 3080 in stock

for only 970euro

[reef patrol]

Hue

[ashen spindle]

oh wow they have two models

the other one is only 1100

[crimson wigeon]

Absolute bargain I'll have 10

[zenith mirage]

Well I finally snagged a PS5. Now to get rid of the PS4 somehow 🤔

[wheat plume]

https://imgur.com/zHxyCc3
I am browsing reddit and DAMNNN I love this setup <3

[reef patrol]

IKEA / 10

[wheat plume]

Still a wider desk than mine

also, I just noticed the laptop under the PC :')

[zenith sonnet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jxijtm/i_am_shocked_5600x_runs_the_original_2007_crysis/

Lol, 13 years

[halcyon moss]

ohwait, the cpu not the gpu

[zenith sonnet]

Yeah, basically took 13 years for a CPU to appear that doesn't choke on the game

Also, this again...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jxczpf/different_image_quality_seen_between_nvidia_and/

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume that Gigabyte 34" isn't badly priced

I think it was either 299 or 399

1440p 144Hz display

Some serious caliber for a computer display

[wheat plume]

yeh, not bad at all

[cursive summit]

Sadly your rig would need a GPU upgrade

[wheat plume]

I go downstairs, see a letter from car insurance and nearly shit a brick over worry what it might be

I got refunded part of my policy premium :P

[cursive summit]

Nice

A nice free loan of 5£

[halcyon moss]

@zenith sonnet oh, that again. i remember it having very different results on texture quality etc in the past

[wheat plume]

€55 :D

[cursive summit]

55£?

[wheat plume]

ew

[cursive summit]

Shit that's enough for a single trip to McDonalds

[wheat plume]

:')

not pounds

those are gross

This OS Shows the battery charge going up by capacity rather than just percentage

I like it!

[cursive summit]

What are you using?

TempleOS?

[ashen spindle]

I mean... every OS does know that internally just changes it into a %

do you more accurately know how long the battery lasts if it says 10% of it it says 178mAH?

[cursive summit]

And I'm 99% sure you can configure it to be more interactive somewhere in the settings, be it stock or with software

Actually my Dell laptop reports in mAh

It's confusing af

Charge speed: this amount of mAh
Battery remaining: this mAh
Full battery: set amount of mAh

Percentages are a standard for a reason

Albeit I like those "fluid" depictions of battery power though, the more you charge the more the fluid rises

[zenith sonnet]

@halcyon moss Just followed a couple links and it seems this is a continuously reoccurring story every generation

[slate shore]

Friggin £

[cursive summit]

@slate shore who are you pounding?

Chill out lad

[slate shore]

I'm gonna pound the people who use £

Lmao

[cursive summit]

So Callum?

That's.. kinda gay

But that's okay

As long as you get his consent

[pale sigil]

Wait

What

[slate shore]

Wrong kinda pound but I get what you mean

I'm not asking for this Callum's consent tho

[cursive summit]

WeirdChamp

[misty pier]

[pale sigil]

Take me on a date first at least.

[slate shore]

Oh wait that's callum?

[cursive summit]

I'd defo ask him out if I were you

@slate shore make a move bud

[slate shore]

Aight.

@pale sigil You. Me. We're going on the tower bridge to settle this

So I can beat your ass for using £

[cursive summit]

Kinky

Kinda rash for a first date but I like it

[pale sigil]

Can’t let you, only Lana Is allowed.

[cursive summit]

Ain't that a bit backwards?

[pale sigil]

There

[cursive summit]

Nothing on you if you like to receive, but hey if that's your type of thing..

[pale sigil]

Lol@

[ashen spindle]

if your wallet also like a good £-ing @pale sigil mindfactory has a 3080 in stock, for just 1100euro

[cursive summit]

He mentioned he hates Nvidia rn

Any more AMD stock on sale?

[pale sigil]

I don’t hate nvidia but it’s below my wanting AMD for sure

[ashen spindle]

but its only like 400 above MSRP of that model, what a steal

[pale sigil]

Still no emails 😭

On my 6800 XT

[cursive summit]

Only 400? Damn that's roughly the price of current situation here with 3070s

Must be a steal

[ashen spindle]

oh, well it is gone and they had at least 5 on stock

[hard thicket]

be happy atleast you are not one of those morons that sold their gpus right befor the 3000 series launch

[cursive summit]

I doubt anyone would have even bought my RX 5700

"EieMD bed compaeny"

[hard thicket]

you under estimate the amount of people that look around for a 200-300$ gpu solution

[cursive summit]

From Nvidia

Nah I'm joking

I wasn't a part of that GPU sake bandwagon and wouldn't ever be

However I was looking at cheap af cards to buy

Nearly got a 399€ 2080Ti

[hard thicket]

just from what im hearing around here locally, the amount of people waiting for something equivalent of a 3060 is too damn high

for 399 its a steal damn

[thick elk]

I remember after buying a 7950 for € 250 it took basically until the 400 series got released before a better gpu in the same price range existed.
Now I am in a position to not care as much, but I really do understand not wanting to pay €400 or more for a gpu.

[hard thicket]

you are not alone with such a mindset

[ashen spindle]

well, my monitor is 3440x1440p@100hz, I spend like no money aside from gaming, so might as well enjoy it

[thick elk]

Right now I have a gtx1080 and if I didn't get the money from work to dump on hardware I am certain I would use it for some time.
I probably look at getting a 6800xt in januari or februari, something like that.

[hard thicket]

from a 1080 to 6800XT is quite a significant jump too

[thick elk]

currently a regular 1440p screen at 155hz with reponse times not that well suited for sub 100fps.

not as big as 5770 > 7950@1.1ghz or 7950 > gtx 1080.

[hard thicket]

agreed

[wheat plume]

Dafuq happened here?!

[hard thicket]

tech nerds invasion

[wheat plume]

Xd

[ashen spindle]

[misty pier]

[hard thicket]

why not go for a 3090 at this point lol

just a 100 buck difference

[pale sigil]

youd be stupid to get a 3090

[ashen spindle]

100?

[hard thicket]

yikes

[pale sigil]

oh fuckn ell

[hard thicket]

here they go for 1550-1650