🔌│tech

[reef patrol]

I keep doing this xD

Talking 6800 in different discords with the same channel names xD

Fun fact : Danes will often switch between full danish and full english sentences at the drop of a hat xD

6800 launch aswell or no?
@fickle ore Yes.

[ashen spindle]

I mean I do the same online with german people sometimes

[old marlin]

lol

I don't

I know that 2nd and 3rd gen turkish immigrants often switch midsentence between turkish and gemran

[vast moss]

6800 launch as well or no?
Yes. 6800/XT momentarily, 6900XT 8 Dec

the question is: do I bait for wenchmarks or jump in?

[ashen spindle]

well, usually I say wait

if it is around the power you need, get one, watch reviews, return if needed is what I say with current suply

[fickle ore]

Neither, they are too expensive

w8n for 6700

[ashen spindle]

well, if you want >2080ti performance that wont work

[fickle ore]

iunno, SAM and infinity cache and all that new shit

[vast moss]

was going to get 6800 but maybe XT

or I could see if the 5700 XT drops in price then snag one of those if so

However, I don't think I'd use the fancy new features since I don't think I'll be getting Zen 3

if it is around the power you need
1080p144 Ultra gaming (Windows and Linux), GC/Wii/U emulation included

[fickle ore]

Not sure if DirectStorage + RTX I/O equivalent needs RDNA 2 specifically, or even RDNA 3? No idea

cos it needs hardware component for compression/decompression

[cursive summit]

"NVIDIA is launching the GeForce RTX 3060 Ti on December 2, better performance than the GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER for under $400."

[vast moss]

Nvidia Linux drivers :v

[ashen spindle]

directstorage should just be a feature on the pcie spec iirc

[vast moss]

Thinking of going Team Red from here on out since AMD plays nicer with Linux, and I do want to use Linux for gaming

[wheat plume]

I wanna get an AMD card

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume Hello I am an AMD representative Rajim Punjabi, how may I help you today?

[reef tundra]

Buy one get one deal

[wheat plume]

Ah yes
It seems my cumpooter has a popup I can't get away

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle directstorage is, but it requires pcie 4.0 nvme ssd, wont work on others. But RTX IO/AMD equivalent tech enables direct storage -> pcie -> GPU VRAM writing, bypassing cpu/mem

you use them in combination

amd has 2 patents for that tech already

idk why they havent talked about it yet

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume Ah yes you need to visit this website it will only cost you nothing downloadmoreram.com and you also might want to download pcoptimizerpro.com and also send us a payment 400$ paypal

[ashen spindle]

needs to be implemeted first I'd say

[wheat plume]

Sounds like a deal!

Can you take gift cards?

[fickle ore]

well Nvidia talked about RTX IO already and it wont come until directstorage anyway, dunno if compatible with 3000 series

[cursive summit]

Yes Steam gift cards

Paid for in Cyberpunk 2077 codes

[wheat plume]

:')

[ashen spindle]

think rtx io was mentioned because they thought AMD would mention it due to consoles

think that was just a reaction

[fickle ore]

Ahh

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume Anyways just get an RX 5700XT when they fall in price

[fickle ore]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NewMaxx/comments/j7grvn/method_and_apparatus_for_integration_of/

thats the AMD patents

[wheat plume]

@wheat plume Anyways just get an RX 5700XT when they fall in price
@cursive summit yeah.... Probably will

I'd need a new psu also

[cursive summit]

Your current one is 500W?

Or 550W?

[wheat plume]

550

[vast moss]

Would a 550W be enough for a R5 3600 + RX 6800? 5700XT?

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume That might be enough for the whole rig tbh

@vast moss I would think so yeah

[wheat plume]

Might...
Aha

[cursive summit]

Unless you are OCing

Then defo not

[wheat plume]

Nah
I don't OC
Except the ram

[vast moss]

Not OCing yet; might consider trying it out but dunno yet

[fickle ore]

get at minimum 650w Lana

[cursive summit]

But iirc even under load the card doesn't consume above 300W

[wheat plume]

I put it up to the advertised 3200Mhz

[vast moss]

I'm still pretty satisfied with my performance

[wheat plume]

get at minimum 650w Lana
@fickle ore I also want a modular one
Cause holy shit that mess of cables in the hard drive bays :')

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume You know that modular PSUs cost a whole lot more 😄

[wheat plume]

Yeh :'( I know

[reef patrol]

#worth though

[cursive summit]

I would suggest not buying a PSU tbh and just undervolt the card or something

[vast moss]

I have a semi-mod; honestly, it's fine, and it's not terrible price imo

[fickle ore]

@wheat plume yep modular ones are best 🙂 and 650w because being lower load on the psu is better for longevity I think, also best efficiency at 50%

[reef tundra]

Who would have guessed that a larger bom results in more costs

[wheat plume]

Ahhhg

[vast moss]

https://outervision.com/b/2I6Tm3 459 W for roughly my use if I get a 6800

[cursive summit]

Like I said 550W is enough

[fickle ore]

meh, 650w has a safe barrier for spikes and better efficiency more likely, while running a bit cooler

[vast moss]

If I keep my 1070 Ti though, I'd be at 650 W, so for that I might get a 750
Not sure if I would do that though

[cursive summit]

Lana's got money issues so she's definitely better off investing into the card

550W will be enough to drive the card

[fickle ore]

money issues = dont buy a new PC

[cursive summit]

Gaming > life

[wheat plume]

My 1660 can use up to 103W in full load

money issues = dont buy a new PC
@fickle ore I have enough GPU power to last me years!

[reef tundra]

Depends on the used power supply where it is most efficient. Typically it has best performance around 50% of its rated power

[wheat plume]

I don't play the most demanding games

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume Except you can't even 144Hz

[fickle ore]

u arent supposed to save on PSU anyway

[wheat plume]

I can in some games

[fickle ore]

its one of the most important parts

[vast moss]

I don't play the most demanding games either, unless emulated BotW counts

[reef patrol]

cries in 750W Modular platinum rated PSU

[wheat plume]

UwU

[cursive summit]

Cries in 700W 30$ Thermaltake that was bought in a Chinese thrift shop

[reef patrol]

[vast moss]

time to lose pc

[cursive summit]

It's holding up though

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/nc17psuu-vegeta-bad-cops-bomb-surprised-fear-gif-17256952

[reef tundra]

The regulation needs an load to function correctly and at very low loads the voltage might be unstable and go out of spec

[cursive summit]

Imma be dead honest, Corsair 550W Bronze died faster than 700W non certified Thermaltake

Though the coil whine is real bad

That Corsair 550W literally exploded in front of my eyes

[reef tundra]

But will it fail-safe or not

[vast moss]

That Corsair 550W literally exploded in front of my eyes
@cursive summit I have a CX550M; should I be concerned?

[cursive summit]

The one I had was a C series actually

[reef tundra]

if you like to poke the coil a lot, yes

[cursive summit]

Dunno if that's the one

[fickle ore]

I'm using a 6 year old Seasonic 660w platinum unit, thinking here if I should buy a new PSU.. Apparently PSU's are good for 50k hours at 40 celsius, mine has probably been running for 3 years at around 18-22 celsius.. Hmmh

5.7039729 Years = 50k hours

[reef tundra]

Usually due to the output capacitors drying up

[fickle ore]

so guess im good for another 6 years

[pale sigil]

Serious question

Anyone interested in a zotec 3090

From the uk

[fickle ore]

free? yep

[pale sigil]

Never opened normal price

[fickle ore]

mailing you my address as we speak

[cursive summit]

I bid 1$

[reef tundra]

1 old belarussian rouble

[vast moss]

3090's above my spec, also above my price range, else I...still wouldn't; it's a beast for power and case space

[cursive summit]

200 reichsmarks

[reef tundra]

a bite of bread

[cursive summit]

Half a bottle of cola

[fickle ore]

@reef tundra know if capacitors dry out only when powered or also when pc is shut?

[reef tundra]

1/6th the candy bar

[cursive summit]

Bruh why'd you do Pleasant dirty like that

He needs his candy

[reef tundra]

alright 2/7th then

[pale sigil]

I mean if it was my 3090 I wouldn’t be selling it

My friend ordered 2

Both came the same time

Even though they are like 6 weeks apart

[cursive summit]

You take monthly payments?

I'd be able to pay you 200 per month

[reef patrol]

You take livers?

[reef tundra]

"Friend". That left it at the store where it got disapeared

[cursive summit]

That's how my parents disappeared wtf

Dad?

[pale sigil]

He was very impatient and ordered it when it went in stock elsewhere lol

[cursive summit]

If he accepts monthly payments sure

[reef tundra]

100 instalments of 1 cent

[cursive summit]

Nah not even joking 200 euros/month

[reef tundra]

Stonks. life long 200 for a gpu

[cursive summit]

RTX 3090s cost a shit ton here

Basically 3080 for the price of 3090

[reef tundra]

Scalpers: hello there. want to make it even better?

[reef patrol]

Same with 3070s here.

They are priced at what 3080s sold for when they were in stock.

[cursive summit]

I blame 21% VAT

And of course local shops scalping

Cheapest 3070

Why am I supposed to buy them locally and "support the businesses" when they cost 400$ extra? 😄

[reef tundra]

Buy them locally from china

[cursive summit]

Just download the card

[timid chasm]

aw it was up briefly on amd site 😦

[pale sigil]

So

[cursive summit]

Get Scalpered

[pale sigil]

Do we think I’m getting a 6800xt

Today

[timid chasm]

page not found after I tried to add to cart lol

[cursive summit]

Nope

[timid chasm]

You all trying multiple sites or focusing on one?

[cursive summit]

Whichever goes live first

Obv I'm not buying, no money

[reef patrol]

FFffuuuuu-

[vast moss]

My friend gave into the scalpers and got a 3080 for over 1500 CAD

[reef patrol]

Shops here received maybe 30% of promised stock.

Only 30! XT cards.

[ashen spindle]

lol

[timid chasm]

bums

[cursive summit]

Microcenter got 2 XT's

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/vettel-in-wall-hit-the-wall-gif-11905373

[ashen spindle]

well, hope it means more stock next week for AiB models

[vast moss]

Only 30! XT cards.
@reef patrol 265252859812191058636308480000000?

[ashen spindle]

though since you want to watercool maybe not the best hopes in your case

[cursive summit]

AiB stock was rumoured to be great

[reef patrol]

Nope.

[pale sigil]

There are only 2 places confirmed in the uk

[reef patrol]

AIB also said they received a LOT less cards than promised.

[ashen spindle]

that rumor is a rumor you just made up

[cursive summit]

Not at all actually

[timid chasm]

Anybody transition to a G604 from a 12 button mmo mouse?

[pale sigil]

I heard a rumour someone heard a rumour that someone heard a rumour about rumours

[reef patrol]

I'm quoting official PR here at least 😄

[pale sigil]

There are conflicting reports

Hard to say what’s what but it’s pretty obvious it’s gonna be a shit show

[timid chasm]

conflict this

https://tenor.com/view/suck-it-tripled-h-wwe-gif-15140231

[reef patrol]

Yeah AIBs saying they got fewer chips than promised seems perfectly in line with AMD not being able to supply enough cards themselves.

[pale sigil]

I just want my shit

I have 2 5600xs pre ordered now

[timid chasm]

goood, gimme 1

[pale sigil]

For the low low price of £310 sure

(I’m serious)

[timid chasm]

That wouldn't be gimmeing though

[pale sigil]

I mean

It’s giving you the opportunity to buy one at a good price

Including delivery

[timid chasm]

If I get a 6800 xt I'll consider it

[pale sigil]

👍 wait actually

You’re in the us right

If so delivery might be a little more

[timid chasm]

OHHH CHANGIN THE DEAL HUH

OK DARTH VADER

[pale sigil]

HHah you can’t expect me to pay the entire delivery cost hahahaha

To the US

[timid chasm]

just wrap it in floaty things and put it on a lil floaty boat

[pale sigil]

Hahaha oh god

@timid chasm you in Canada or US

Haha ye no

£20

[reef patrol]

That's par for course here to the rest of the EU.

It's why Quinn needs to buy at least 2-3 things to be worth the deal.

[cursive summit]

@pale sigil Are you charging 310 pounds for a 5600XT?

[timid chasm]

that's about what I spend to ship anything with value in the continental US

[pale sigil]

5600x duh

[cursive summit]

Oh the CPU

[pale sigil]

Mansen

Sending stuff is pretty cheap in the Eu

[cursive summit]

You're not wrong

[pale sigil]

Usually costs between 5-15 most

I’ve sent loads to people

[reef patrol]

20 pounds is 20 pounds 😄

[cursive summit]

Except Wooting shipping, that's 20 euros

[reef patrol]

And you literally laughed at 20£ which is what I responded to 😄

[cursive summit]

Or was before it changed

[pale sigil]

It was always like £10

[ashen spindle]

it very much depends on how fast you want it, what company and what size, you aint shipping a pc case for the same as a cpu

[cursive summit]

Dunno that was the cheapest shipping they had

And I don't live in a third world country either 😄

[ashen spindle]

wooting did get better shipping for most places couple months back

[cursive summit]

I am aware

[pale sigil]

Where are you vexxed

[pale sigil]

Ah that explains it

[cursive summit]

Why am I excluded from the "low shipping cost" list 😄

We have DHL, DPD, Itella, UPS, etc

We deserve low shipping

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/MIkb2LF1Rfo

So they are comparing it to.. 5700XT

Which is more comparable to 6700XT price point wise

[timid chasm]

so no quality settings?

and AC: Odyssey lol 85 on 1080p and 1440p with 69 4k

wtf ubi

but valhalla is 1080 87 53 respectively

double wtf ubi

[ashen spindle]

someone is in a lot of trouble at aorus

they clearly didnt check timezones

[pale sigil]

Shit benchmarks anyway

[ashen spindle]

ofc, its a vendor

[reef patrol]

Well an AIB.

They literally produce cards. They should know better xD

[timid chasm]

😦

[ashen spindle]

idk if amd site even is a good idea to try outside of the US

[reef patrol]

Can't even access their shop page here.

I just get redirected to amd.com

[ashen spindle]

https://www.amd.com/de/products/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt ?

the store page aint great for sure

[timid chasm]

https://www.amd.com/en/shop Can you pick one here?

[crimson wigeon]

Where the numbers at

Oh still 9 more minutes? Or was it one hour 🤔

[pale sigil]

9 more min till i cry

christ

ocuk is already dying

[wheat plume]

o;-;

[halcyon moss]

A few more minutes till benchmarks are released?

[timid chasm]

aw https://www.bhphotovideo.com/pages/availability-update/amd-rx-6000-series.html?origSearch=AMD RX 6800 XT

auto message when you search for them

[wheat plume]

cdxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxcdxxxxxxxxxxz

[halcyon moss]

why are you listing a cracked cd key?

[reef patrol]

A few more minutes till benchmarks are released?
@halcyon moss And sales.

[crimson wigeon]

and chaos

[pale sigil]

anddddddd

store is down

[reef patrol]

xD

[wheat plume]

what store?

[pale sigil]

ocuk

[timid chasm]

More like OC, u ok?

AMIRITE

[pale sigil]

you are

[reef patrol]

xD

[wheat plume]

nice

[cursive summit]

These fucking riggers

• Keemstar

[timid chasm]

oof

scary read

[wheat plume]

is that an actual quote or did you change a letter?

[crimson wigeon]

Aand here we go

[timid chasm]

no amd direct sale boo

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume Both

Anyways

None in lithuania

No cards

Not even listed

Shame, we had CPUs on launch day

[crimson wigeon]

Paper launch it is

[timid chasm]

I dont even see cards on the stores

any of them

[ashen spindle]

same

[cursive summit]

Newegg's GPU list is down in general

Nothing

[timid chasm]

lol 0 graphics cards

[pale sigil]

this is impossible

constant crashing

[ashen spindle]

now I see it

6800xt for 790 euros?????

[timid chasm]

best buy only carrying aib maybe?

or didnt get reference

[reef patrol]

Here's hoping! They took my money.

[timid chasm]

and oos from amd

[pale sigil]

FU

MANSEN

FU

[crimson wigeon]

Oh coolio this shoppe just straight up isn't ordering any reference models due to the extreme limited availability

[reef patrol]

I was in such a goddamned state of panic.

First store - I refresh the site constantly a minute before it goes on sale. The second I see the product, they're already gone.

Talk about some stock exchange latency right there.

[pale sigil]

WHAT A COMPLETE JOKE

[ashen spindle]

I think I got one

[timid chasm]

only amd has them for me and it was broke lol

boo

[reef patrol]

Second store - Nothing. Still nothing. Then suddenly they are in stock. 32 of em. I hit add to cart so fucking fast. And then it asks for my card. FUUUUCK.

I ran across the apartment and scared both cats under the couch to dive for my card xD

[wheat plume]

LOL

[timid chasm]

fucking obama

or trump or whoever

[reef patrol]

I was 200% sure I had all of my account info pre-typed in yesterday.

Guess the fuck not.

[cursive summit]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Radeon-6800xt-GPU-Beats-RTX-3080/203185647089?hash=item2f4eceedf1:g:jesAAOSwTbBftMIR

[pale sigil]

amd site aint listed them

[timid chasm]

has here

[cursive summit]

Ocuk went down? Pitty

[ashen spindle]

nvm didnt get one, loaded too long

[pale sigil]

all out

[cursive summit]

Nice

Scalpers nation

[pale sigil]

all i have is ocuk

but they aint listed them

and it keeps going donw

[cursive summit]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jwfaky/amd_radeon_rx_6000_rdna2_launch_day_megathread/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

No one got cards

10s and sold out

Or sold out during checkouts

[crimson wigeon]

welp that one tweet sure aged like milk, anyway how about the benchmarks you guyyssss

[pale sigil]

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/16GB-Sapphire-Radeon-RX-6800-XT-GDDR6-HDMI-DUAL-DP-USB-C--Retail-_1383028.html

[crimson wigeon]

And nice seems like Linux drivers aren't scuffed this time around

[pale sigil]

fuck sake

im so pissed

[cursive summit]

Tfw you have a decent functional card and you are upset you can't buy something

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah just wait a week or two for the AIBs that supposedly have a lot more availability

[timid chasm]

since when do they have a lot more?

aren't they all saying it sucks too?

[crimson wigeon]

Probably

[cursive summit]

They are supposed to have a lot more availability

I can't find the tweet, but someone tweeted that aib models are decently available

Eh it's quarantine

Give companies a break

[timid chasm]

aibs already sold out on newegg

so that's exciting

[ashen spindle]

custom models come out next week on the 25th, not today

[timid chasm]

well they got a bunch listed with other brands

unless they all made just reference cards I guess

[ashen spindle]

all the same design

[cursive summit]

In a week or two we'll get AiB designs

[timid chasm]

I don't have permission to access the checkout lol

fuck off AMD

[cursive summit]

@timid chasm peasant, ask your landlord for permission first then

Or parents

[timid chasm]

did amd ban me for F5

you. cunts.

[cursive summit]

Nice

Get fucked scalper

[timid chasm]

Nah I don't scalp

[pale sigil]

amd aint showing

in the uk

[cursive summit]

Well I refreshed multiple pages

[timid chasm]

but I would like a 6800 xt or a 6800 to trade up to somebody with some money

[cursive summit]

None in my country

We too small for cards

[pale sigil]

omfg

[timid chasm]

I didn't have permission to access the ../checkout/completed

[pale sigil]

one place is only accepting email order

[timid chasm]

fuck. them.

[pale sigil]

i had to email for it

AT LEAST THE CARDS ARE SHOWING FOR YOU

[timid chasm]

is that really better though?

they're both oos now

[cursive summit]

@pale sigil https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Radeon-RX-6800-in-hand-on-18-Nov-2020-price-will-change-soon/373341158168?hash=item56ecddfb18:g:OWYAAOSwIwpfsU5O

This one doesn't seem to scalp that much

[pale sigil]

NOT 6800xt

also link dead

[cursive summit]

Lol what

In ebay.com someone's selling PowerColor 6800XT for 2 grand

[ashen spindle]

yes same thing happend with 3080

people drive up prices and then just dont pay it

to fuck scalper

[cursive summit]

Akso what's up with "printed images" being sold for 700€?

New way to scam money?

[pale sigil]

FUCK SAKE

I GOT TO CHECKOUT

[cursive summit]

Such short temper though 😄

[pale sigil]

no

[cursive summit]

It's only a card

[pale sigil]

yes

which i need

desperately

[timid chasm]

Also got to checkout

then AMD banned my chrome then all oos from firefox

[ashen spindle]

which i need
@pale sigil *want

[pale sigil]

i think im about to make a huge mistake

no

nvm

no

[ashen spindle]

trying to get a 6800 instead of XT?

[pale sigil]

i wont

no

paypal

wont work

on checkout

😢 😢 😢 😢 😢

[timid chasm]

nah paypal broke

[pale sigil]

I can only get it on paypal credit

[timid chasm]

I tried for a 6800 but no dice

[cursive summit]

I think he was about to buy it from scalpers

[pale sigil]

i simpy cannot use normal pa

otherwise i would be in luck rn

[cursive summit]

Scalpers already selling on ebay

[timid chasm]

buy it from scalpers? what kind of a monster does that

[cursive summit]

Current price for 6800XT 800$

[pale sigil]

its pretty good

here

price wise

THEY JUST WONT LET PAYPAL WORK

[cursive summit]

HAHA

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Radeon-6800xt-GPU-Beats-RTX-3080/203185647089?hash=item2f4eceedf1:g:jesAAOSwTbBftMIR

50K

People are mad as fuck

Who's going to bid 1M?

[crimson wigeon]

That RTX ON performance though ow

[pale sigil]

i cantr even use my credit card

the limit is 500

lol

[cursive summit]

Cheers

[ashen spindle]

again, people aint paying that, they just raise the bid so the scalper cant sell it

[reef patrol]

Yep

[ashen spindle]

you got one mansen? what store

[reef patrol]

Komplett

Got an MSI

[ashen spindle]

well guess I'll gotta try again next week

[pale sigil]

sad part is

i have the option to buy still

but

wont let paypal

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

you ahve the option but it 100% isn't reserved for you anymore

[pale sigil]

Ein Artikel aus Ihrer Bestellung ist nicht mehr verfügbar! Bitte entfernen Sie die Position aus dem Warenkorb!

wot

[ashen spindle]

told you its gone

also did you try from a german site or why is that in german

[pale sigil]

nono

i mean

im surprised its german

this is ocuk

lol

i doubt it but the other option is basically the email i sent

to a retailer

as thy only acccepted emails

[timid chasm]

I think I want an AsRock now that I think about it

[pale sigil]

weird they werern't on the amd site

[timid chasm]

It's ok

ours was and still fucked

[pale sigil]

https://twitter.com/hardwarecanucks/status/1329067340642836487

Hardware Canucks (@hardwarecanucks)

During NVIDIA's launches this year B&H received stock of cards from board partners. Not hundreds but they were there.

This time, zero stock, no ETA across all of B&H's sales channels and no pre orders.

If NVIDIA had a paper launch, what's this one called? 👀

Twitter · Nov 18, 2020, 2:22 PM

[crimson wigeon]

air launch

[reef patrol]

It's not quite fair to judge them yet.

The AIB custom cards are a week away.

THEN we can start flinging tonnes of shit.

[ashen spindle]

yeah, after all it was not AMD's decision how they AiBs would split up their chips

[reef patrol]

Oh it was.

[ashen spindle]

they probably told them to not have 0 allocated from launch

but I doubt it was a set number?

[reef patrol]

AIBs aren't allowed to sell yet.

Only AMD stock cards.

[ashen spindle]

ok, AMD sells chips to AiB, what I meant, AMD did most likely not say "you need at least 30stock cards from the 100 chips we send you"

thats what I expect

[reef patrol]

They may have tbh.

[ashen spindle]

yea probably something like "dont do 0, at least x"

its a guess

[reef patrol]

But my original point stands - People aren't judging nVidia's paper launch by looking at their own FE cards alone. AIB custom cards were included in that.

[ashen spindle]

yeye

I was agreeing with you

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

also, order me one if your danish site gets stock before we do lol

[pale sigil]

ite

gonna go cry

Also i do need

gams are unplayable for me

[zenith sonnet]

TPU released their 5950X review

[ashen spindle]

you dont need this one, you could get a previous gen one etc.

[zenith sonnet]

Looks quite good

[pale sigil]

no?

[ashen spindle]

yes you could

a 2080ti not good enough?

[reef patrol]

Now comes the FOMO of not having RTX 😄

Wonder if I can swindle someone intro trading their 3080

[pale sigil]

Man.... ngl

[ashen spindle]

why not first see how well RTRT works on yours ?

[pale sigil]

DLSS is so damn good

[reef patrol]

Don't have to. The reviews paint a pretty clear picture 😄

AMD's "DLSS" might help, but they're still behind even with DLSS turned off.

[halcyon moss]

raytracing is the only thing thats really subpar

[ashen spindle]

zzz mindfactory are so slow in listing new cards

just list them and get it done with

[zenith sonnet]

I don't 'trust' ray-tracing tests on games that released before Ampere/RDNA2

[ashen spindle]

well I didnt get to see a review yet

I assume it's between turing and ampere in RT resutls?

[pale sigil]

more cards shall be available from 25th November to pre-order

sureeee

[ashen spindle]

yes, 25th is AiB release date for the 5000th time we mention this now

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

fixed

[reef patrol]

It's true though.

All of the custom cooler cards are on sale from the 25th only.

So... second chance.

[ashen spindle]

there will be more stock than today as well we just dont know how much more that is

could be 1% more for all we know

[pale sigil]

thats what im dreading

being over 700

[reef patrol]

I would imagine it would be at least 4-5x what we saw today statisically.

Maybe not on each site. But we have a handful or more of AIBs.

[ashen spindle]

ye

[reef patrol]

But now there's more people who want to buy.

[timid chasm]

yeah, RIP

[zenith sonnet]

With 'trust', I don't believe them to be an accurate representation of performance

Oh WOW
This page has me absolutely sold on RDNA2

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt/39.html

[ashen spindle]

Mansen you said the revies are clear, can you answer my question now? :p RT performance between turing and ampere ?

or better/worse?

[zenith sonnet]

Not a single bad frametime graph for RDNA2, much better than Ampere

[pale sigil]

prob gonna get my cpu

before i get my gpu

[reef patrol]

TLDR;

[ashen spindle]

ehhhh minecraft rtx and quake rtx cant really count

[reef patrol]

Sure they can.

[ashen spindle]

they are made by nvidia themselves

[zenith sonnet]

RTX

[pale sigil]

welp

i want a 3080 now

😄

[ashen spindle]

lol sure

buy one then

[reef patrol]

https://youtu.be/ZtxrrrkkTjc?t=880

[pale sigil]

not related to that pic mansen sent

[reef patrol]

RT timestmap.

[timid chasm]

Doesn't AMD have their own thing they're doing for RT?

[reef patrol]

Moer games. Compares with 2080TI and 3080

[reef patrol]

Doesn't AMD have their own thing they're doing for RT?
@timid chasm That's what they're using.

AMD's DLSS competitor won't be out for a while though.

[ashen spindle]

so still a bit above turing, as I expected

[timid chasm]

That's what everybody is using or what HU is using?

[zenith sonnet]

@reef patrol How does the 3080 do in Hangar 21 compared to the 6800 XT?

[pale sigil]

amd cards seem to be quite bad with raytracing

even not comparing to dlss

which tbh doesn't matter that much

[ashen spindle]

That's what everybody is using or what HU is using?
@timid chasm you "use" it by using one of the amd cards thats all lol

[crimson wigeon]

Not a big surprise considering how it works

[zenith sonnet]

There isn't anything to compare RT on a fair ground yet!

[reef patrol]

I won't miss RT this generation. Even for CB. It's a nice to have, not need to have thing.

Legion looked great with it on, but my 2080 chugged even with DLSS on.

I'd rather have 144FPS at 1440P more stable than dips.

[timid chasm]

yeah I can't stand dips

that shit drives me insane

That's why I spend more time altering settings than playing the fucking game

[zenith sonnet]

I wish to know what happened here

[ashen spindle]

oh well, guess I'll try again next week, at least gives me time to make sure there are no big issues with amd

at least stock should come back faster than on nvidias side

[pale sigil]

i doubnt i was able to email benfore so many people

for ebuyer

but it would be nice

[zenith sonnet]

I'm hype

Those frametime graphs on the 6800 are dope

[pale sigil]

im sad

[timid chasm]

I'd like to see the 6900 xt not be a 3090 wannabe

[silent latch]

i want this new hardware, it's a shame it's just... not available

[pale sigil]

pretty much

[cursive summit]

I'm waiting for Super resolution

[crimson wigeon]

So do I but I already waited so long what's another couple weeks

[cursive summit]

Maybe my 5700 will get support for it

[zenith sonnet]

5950X still MiA

[pale sigil]

i really wanted to get one beforer the d2 raid

haha

gutted

[silent latch]

i'm fine waiting for the graphics cards, i'm in Linux so the drivers won't support it right away anyway...

but still...

[ashen spindle]

I mean I'm surprised anyone here got one, thats above average

[pale sigil]

i think omly Mansen did

[ashen spindle]

thats how many people are ATM looking at one card on mindfactory and I bet they have <500 total

[silent latch]

D:

[ashen spindle]

yeah and I'm surprised he got one

[pale sigil]

from what i gathered shops only have up to like 30

[zenith sonnet]

Impressive

[reef patrol]

Yeah that's probably the most impressive thing.

[silent latch]

that is pretty damn wild

[reef patrol]

Especially considering how poorly AMD did in previous gens.

[zenith sonnet]

Yeah that's probably the most impressive thing.
@reef patrol
Tbh, I find the frametime graphs to be most impressive

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah pretty surprising that now Nvidia cards are the ones devouring the watts

[reef sluice]

oh sheet

that's actually pretty alluring

damn

if AMD have something similar to RTX voice then maybe, as I started looking at that for a use someone told me

[zenith sonnet]

It's not even that Nvidia cards are chugging the watts
6800 has TWICE the perf/watt of a 5700

[reef sluice]

(and it's fine on any GPU that can run it for that)

he used a 1050

yeah, one of the things I was thinking of it for was efficiency

[zenith sonnet]

RTX voice isn't unique enough to be a selling point. And there are alternatives

[reef sluice]

all I need is audio routing

idgaf about noise suppresion

which is why it's a little awkward

[ashen spindle]

well the early versions of rtx voice and such dont use tensor cores thats why it works on older cards for a bigger performance hits

but yeah, I wish amd had that too

[reef sluice]

it's for recording shmup replays while talking in VC

[zenith sonnet]

Why does a GPU driver need noise suppression? Just get one of the softwares that are available?

[reef sluice]

as I don't need noise suppression at all anyway

like I have a fan, but it's far enough away and quiet enough when I do use it that it doesn't get picked up

the only time I could want it is when I get shouted at and threatened or harassed while talking

[ashen spindle]

well, time to start watching reviews I guess

not gonna get one today anymore I assume

[zenith sonnet]

Glad I've PLENTY of time to wait for the cards

Damn Noctua

[cursive summit]

@reef sluice There are software for playing with mic input

You don't need RTX voice

[reef sluice]

yeah, I expected as much

I think he used it as a secondary effect as he needs the suppresion

but I wasn't sure of any other software solutions anyway

[ashen spindle]

virtual audio cable is a popular one for rerouting and such

[cursive summit]

Iirc audacity is one of the more audio focused software thatbgas suppression

[reef sluice]

as most people use hardware solutions, atleast that's all that ever shows up usually

[cursive summit]

But also there's a dedicated one I forgot the name of

[reef sluice]

virtual audio cable is a popular one for rerouting and such
ah yeah, I heard of that before

also, it isn't mic

it's audio out

[crimson wigeon]

Don't a lot of people like VoiceMeeter Banana

[reef patrol]

virtual audio cable is a popular one for rerouting and such
@ashen spindle Now there's something to trigger Mansen. I remember this being needed to get sound in Witcher 3 on release.

[reef sluice]

which is the awkward one

[reef patrol]

And it SUUUUUUCKED.

[ashen spindle]

lul

[reef sluice]

iirc one fix with no software is set default to an unused one

and then record the unused output and set discord to your normal output

wait

[reef patrol]

So Witcher 3 had issues with 7.1 setups. My headphones had that fancy virtual surround...but forced. Couldn't turn it to stereo.

So I had to fake a stereo output and feed it into the headphones. But VAC produced a weird hissing static noise and output in low quality mono.

[reef sluice]

I just fucking realised a super low level solution just by randomly talking ffs

(fucking awkward though)

that and psure his setup means he hears both which was what stopped me before

[cursive summit]

YO WHAT

Fuck I can't share it

Too big for discord

[reef sluice]

screenshot

or link

they'll work

I send links to img direct sometimes

occasionally it refuses to embed

but it's usually fine

™️

[cursive summit]

Nah it's a gif

This thing is sick

[reef sluice]

https://i.imgur.com/nytYQIO.gifv

[cursive summit]

It looks better than the Galaxy Fold's

[reef sluice]

hahahaha

I feel it won't work just like that, or there'll be stuff you can't tell

if reviewers get it and that's wrong though

then yeah, looks pretty hot

[pale sigil]

Aged like fine wine

https://i.redd.it/rn2meubxc0061.png

[cursive summit]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wyfabK-BsTk

It's real

[pale sigil]

i dont get why its not showing on the uk amd site?

[reef patrol]

No direct sales probably.

[pale sigil]

was there just no stock for the uk

[reef patrol]

US only.

[ashen spindle]

again, wait for next week before we throw rocks

[cursive summit]

Damn this concept is sick

Though I would want to know how sand and debris proof the mechanism is

I love the idea though

Much better than foldable phones

Fml I might skip out on a new phone for now and see how the Oppo is priced

Iirc it's a budget brand

[reef sluice]

imagine us actually getting stock of PC parts

I remember some good fun looking at some components before rona

[zenith sonnet]

Luls

[reef sluice]

what's the 6800xt priced at again?

[ashen spindle]

650 msro

[zenith sonnet]

650

[ashen spindle]

msrp*

but you aint getting it for that price anywhere aside amds own side

[reef sluice]

oof, that's not terrible

[ashen spindle]

so for like 10 cards if you got lucky

[reef sluice]

yeah

for now

it should get stock at some point

unless we get miners again kappa

[ashen spindle]

thankfully this time it isnt that great in mining

[silent latch]

i hear miners are SUPER HYPE for these new cards

[reef sluice]

someone mentioned NVENC encoder and I realised that is something that I need to think about

so did I

there were rumors

[ashen spindle]

nope, fake rumor from before launch

[reef sluice]

but guessing it was a bust

pog

very good

[ashen spindle]

also, nvenc is nvidia, forgot the name of amd's counterpart

but it is there and works since rdna1

[reef sluice]

supposedly AMDs one is pretty shitty

it works but isn't as good

[zenith sonnet]

If you want good, you CPU encode anyway

[reef sluice]

I spose

I would probably be going for CPU up this year or next anyways

[zenith sonnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLVGL7aAYgY

[reef sluice]

currently 1660ti + 2600x

[reef patrol]

That's not a bad gaming rig.

[reef sluice]

it's pnice

1660ti and 2600x end up with min bottleneck on eachother usually

but just want a bit more... idk,hard to resist the draw of new hardware I guess

[reef patrol]

Wife has a 9600K / 1660TI. No complaints there.

[cursive summit]

Can someone tell me why 6800XT's are being sold en masse for a price that's lover than MSRP?

[reef patrol]

Although she only plays Sims 3 and Cities Skylines on it 😄

[reef sluice]

wait what

[reef patrol]

Where? News to me.

[cursive summit]

Ebay of course

[reef patrol]

All the ones I've seen in retail were more.

Fakes xD

[cursive summit]

629€ for one from alright rated seller

[reef sluice]

629 is retail

lmao

maybe a little more

[cursive summit]

6800XT?

[reef sluice]

although it does end up 1:1 usually

650 USD psure

so 630 euro

maybe a little less

[cursive summit]

[reef sluice]

think it should be 580 euro maybe 600

and then the extra is tax

in the UK for PC stuff I assume 1:1 USD to GBP

even though the currency value is vastly different

[ashen spindle]

because why do you still care about ebay prices that are either fake or will get blown up to not have scalpers make money

[reef patrol]

I paid 780€ for mine.

Which is a bit more than the lowest price in denmark.

[cursive summit]

Oh

[reef sluice]

now I'm confused

[cursive summit]

The seller's selling a printed image of the card

Bruh wtf is with these image scams?

[ashen spindle]

yeah of course, even if its legit they wouldnt have cards of it yet

idk why you are wasting your time looking through ebay

[cursive summit]

To look at the prices?

Seeing the world burn is fun

[ashen spindle]

yeah you will see scams and prices that get inflated, that is neither new nor unexpected

[cursive summit]

Thanks for explaining that grandma 👌

[ashen spindle]

didnt know having a functioning braincell makes one old

[cursive summit]

Aw, edgy

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/calm-down-children-relax-be-calm-chill-gif-4575486

[cursive summit]

Damn I understand having fake listings, but sellings printed out graphics card renders is a new one

I guess that removes the illegal out of illegal scam

[reef sluice]

nop

not new from what I know

selling printouts is a very common and old practice

[ashen spindle]

people have literally been doing that pretty much since ebay existed

[reef sluice]

people used to do that with automated rentals aswell lmao

[cursive summit]

Eh I guess I've never really tuned into ebay during a big launch

This one would be the first time

You learn new things every day

[ashen spindle]

not even a launch thing that people try to sell prints of the product

[cursive summit]

Never seen it prior

Hence why I'm flabbergasted about it

[old marlin]

wait still not sold out

wtf is this

I thought it is 2020

[ashen spindle]

it is sold out

click on the article

[old marlin]

ah

one is reserved

[ashen spindle]

that is quite the scam price though

thats almost worse than the 3080 price hikes

[old marlin]

ye

[ashen spindle]

820 and not even free shipping

[reef patrol]

Definitely a hike.

But not a big hike from what I had to pay xD

[ashen spindle]

at leas you get free shipping I hope lol

[reef patrol]

Yep.

[old marlin]

it is free shipping if I can pick it up in store

[ashen spindle]

ok fuck off mindfactory

[pale sigil]

this gives me some hope

[ashen spindle]

mindfactory listed them one after another to not have all be gone instantly

thats nice I guess

but they still didn't list all models zzz

like just be done with it

[pale sigil]

hmm

they repsonded to me

asking me to dm

but they have dm disabled

oml

[reef patrol]

[cursive summit]

Just buy an RTX 2080Ti at this point

Same perf, full availability

[ashen spindle]

no?

[chrome estuary]

I was gonna say

[reef patrol]

Get a 3070 if you don't want high end waiting.

[zenith sonnet]

What happened here? o.o

[ashen spindle]

btw

https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1329096824410439681

Hardware Unboxed (@HardwareUnboxed)

For the (many) people wondering why we didn't place much emphasis on RT or DLSS performance in our RX 6800 XT review... this is why:

Twitter · Nov 18, 2020, 4:19 PM

@pale sigil

[reef sluice]

wtf

[ashen spindle]

MUH DLSS

[reef sluice]

DLSS is whatever to me

as quite a few others think, native or nah

[reef patrol]

Doesn't really matter. Linus and others took the time.

[pale sigil]

its about the future lad

[reef sluice]

I spose

but odds are there'd be new cards by the time you consistently would enable DLSS

as this'd quite possibly push devs to add it

but I don't feel we'd have an insane amount in twoish™️ years

[ashen spindle]

if its about the future even more reason to go with AMD to support the non closed standards

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-hyperx-rgb-hyperx-family-hyperx-gaming-gif-17743647

me on twitter rn

[silent latch]

RT and DLSS are sweet technologies but they're not driving me to buy one or the other card at the current time

[pale sigil]

I just wanna get my hands on what I can

Tbh

[silent latch]

yeah that's fair

[pale sigil]

Really hoping my ebuyer email was in time and confirmed

[vagrant marsh]

holy crap. the biggest webshop in the netherlands desided to simply not sell them 6800's cause stock is so terribly low.

[reef sluice]

big braing

[zenith sonnet]

Oh gosh darn

I got HDR to look good

Bloody amazing in fact

[misty pier]

how do you make hdr look good

[zenith sonnet]

Windows got an HDR/SDR balance slider

And the grey is gone now

I suddenly see colours where everything was grey before! 😄

[vagrant marsh]

@reef patrol gib me ur 6800!!

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-way-never-nuh-uh-gif-14500720

[vagrant marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-are-you-challenging-me-scooby-gif-13519095

https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-anime-opm-saitama-deep-sea-king-gif-17670054

6800XT is ready for sale

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-and-its-gone-sad-talking-its-finished-gif-17584433

[misty pier]

glad I don't need a new gpu this year

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle Whats wrong with GN these days? HU and LTT testing shows a big difference for SAM and for GN its a +- situation

[ashen spindle]

uhh are you sure we saw the same video

hitman/sottr got them quite a nice boost

[fickle ore]

I saw no difference with GN testing, -perf on some, +perf on some for few %, with HU and LTT there is big boost like 10% for nearly every title

[ashen spindle]

it's literally 111 vs 100 on hitman2 for example

[fickle ore]

HU is stupid tho, he doesnt show 6800 XT with SAM enabled vs 3080

at the beginning

[ashen spindle]

213 vs 205 in shadow

[fickle ore]

ye but check vs these

thats massive vs couple fps on GN

[ashen spindle]

it's 3% vs 6%? idk thats not that big of a difference

[fickle ore]

only GN shows perf regression with SAM I think?

maybe he has fucked up setup

[ashen spindle]

they dont show regression

[fickle ore]

what

[ashen spindle]

he literally says in the cases where it's "worse" that it's within run to run variance, aka that run just had .2 fps less or whatever much it was

494.9 fps vs 494.5fps is basically the same

[fickle ore]

he shows regression on many 1% lows, by 5-10 fps

example

[ashen spindle]

with almost identical .1% lows and very similar 1% lows

that is basically the same

[fickle ore]

ya but not seeing that on HU/LTT

but shows in many games on GN test

[ashen spindle]

I'll be honest I didn't even look at that, that is such a miniscule change that it basically doesn't matter

like that's just in normal run variance

[fickle ore]

it's just weird.. wonder if GN has motherboard vendor bios issues, driver issue or why would SAM increase cpu calls when its meant to decrease them?

Yeah could be run variance

[ashen spindle]

like you're talking about a 3% difference in the 1% lows that get counted over not that long of a run

[fickle ore]

its pretty big when its -3 to -5% regression on GN vs +10% increase on others in same game

that is statistically significant

I think his setup is flawed based on that, should rerun tests

[ashen spindle]

for a difference in the 1% lows? hell no

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/h0Itx_TUOKA

Starfield.. oh wait, Starlink is sick!

[fickle ore]

feel free to disagree, but that IS statistically significant difference from others 😛

[ashen spindle]

how can it be statistically significant if there is not enough data to compare

[fickle ore]

well if he only makes 1 test ruch per game that is already fucked

I assume that's a minimum of 3 runs and their average per game

but maybe I expect too much

[ashen spindle]

in theory that should not be needed, as regular test's show variance in a run, then you can see if it goes outside that variance or stays, unless you expect it to fluctuate then you dont need to run the new cases like 3 times every game

[fickle ore]

that isn't testing variance within a system or outside factors, so you always need atleast 3

but idk how he does it

1 run per game is clearly lazy

[ashen spindle]

no I'm saying you establish a baseline and then you can do 1 run with sam on. rtx on, whatever you want to test and based on your previous runs you know if it's in or out of variance etc.

[fickle ore]

you assume test setups are perfect accuracy with no outside variance😄

[ashen spindle]

they control ram up to tertiaries, they control ambient room temperature, what else do you want to make sure stays the same?

and thats why the baseline is there, to catch general variance, so you can see what the expected deviation is

[fickle ore]

Windows, scheduled tasks, AV, service routines, etc, etc

Driver bugs causing high ISR/DPC counts, hitches etc

[ashen spindle]

look, the 1% lows are data of about 100 frames

are you really trying to tell me a 100 vs 103% result over 100 frames is relevant in literally any way

[latent mural]

Can someone tell me if there is a difference between the wooting lekker two and the wooting two HE

[ashen spindle]

lekker is limited run, fancy colors, higher quality keycaps, braided cable

also delivers a bit earlier

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle it can, which is why GN has conflicting data.. not very scientific way

but the others might run only once per game so ehh

[ashen spindle]

look yes, that data is interresting, should be realiably blah blah
if you actually make a big deal about what is effectively like what, 15 millisecond over the span of 3 minutes? on launch day you focus way to much on theory

if I had noticed that I probably would've just thought to myself to keep it in mind for other moments, if the deviation is bigger, otherwise see if it changes in future (perhaps next week already with AiB cards) and not really care about it more

[fickle ore]

theres no need to get personal about this.. just finding it weird whats the cause of GN results vs HU/LTT

[ashen spindle]

I'm more confused why anandtech didn't put out a review

didn't mean for any of that to sound personal, just that I personally think that's weird priorities

[pale sigil]

Why is this gens amd cards so ugly

xD

[ashen spindle]

you rather want a blower fan ?

[pale sigil]

xD fair enough

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-unveils-radeon-rx-6800-xt-gaming-x-trio-series also there are already imo better looking AiB cards shown for next week

hello discord, where is the preview...

[fickle ore]

Yeah it's fine.. I mean GN could be the only one who's right here and others are wrong.. It's possible. Just interested in what's causing the regression on his tests and/or why he has that high variance vs others... Not really anything about priorities for myself. Just wanting to know whether SAM has driver issues, whether the tech itself has minor cpu perf hit, when I thought it should alleviate cpu bottlenecks..

Also I'm slightly biased against GN in general 😛

[cursive summit]

No wonder you are always wrong

[pale sigil]

Quick

Palit vs Zotec

@ashen spindle

[ashen spindle]

????? idfk

either could be shit

[reef patrol]

AIBs are a nightmare for watercooling.

[ashen spindle]

either could be good

[pale sigil]

i dont watercool

[reef patrol]

Cause you need to find out if each card is reference.

And you do it blind.

[ashen spindle]

I assume its not an amd card?

[pale sigil]

there is a 90 quid difference

[ashen spindle]

3080:?

[cursive summit]

Fuck's Zotec?

It's Zotac

[pale sigil]

yes

3080

[cursive summit]

Zotac I'd say

Palit only makes good Radeon shit

[pale sigil]

£749.99 vs £839.99

[cursive summit]

Well pick the cheaper one

[ashen spindle]

get the cheaper one

[cursive summit]

You are not going to get 90 pounds worth of extra performance either way

[pale sigil]

thermals

[ashen spindle]

get the cheaper one if you are in a rush and dont want to compare/look up reviews

[cursive summit]

What's the exact part?

Or it's the stock 3080?

[ashen spindle]

stock is only sold by nvidia, if you mean the short pcb with one fan on each side

[cursive summit]

Yep

Ahh yeah they made that one exclusive

[reef patrol]

stock is only sold by nvidia, if you mean the short pcb with one fan on each side
@ashen spindle BestBuy

nVidia stopped selling cards.

To keep it fair... fair for who? The US apparently. Fuck everyone else 😄

[cursive summit]

@pale sigil Wait which Palit version are you buying?

[ashen spindle]

well yeah, but they are marked as nvidia still, it's unlike the reference amd cards not sold with a AiB's name

[pale sigil]

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/palit-geforce-rtx-3080-gaming-pro-10gb-gddr6x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-05d-pl.html

[reef patrol]

Sure. Founders Edition is nVidia/AMD only.

[cursive summit]

@pale sigil And Zotac?

[pale sigil]

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zotac-geforce-rtx-3080-trinity-oc-10gb-gddr6x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-124-zt.html

[cursive summit]

Palit

Same shit

No differences in clocks at all

[pale sigil]

so

[cursive summit]

Actually the Zotac one has 15MHz higher clock

Which in the grand scheme of things achieves nothing

[ashen spindle]

get the cheaper one and be ready to get amd next week bc the 3080 aint be shipping before that anyway

[pale sigil]

thats kinda my idea

[cursive summit]

Yeah get the Palit one

No difference

Also personally, it looks cooler

Have fun with 10 gigs of VRAM though

[pale sigil]

sitll cant use paypal

[cursive summit]

6000 series got unlisted on ocuk?

Oh they still up, just don't appear in the search

[crisp granite]

nothing I didn't expect from the RX6000 cards

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/fozzy-fuck-bar-i-fucked-up-facepalm-gif-4950549

it didn't use my 0% interest

[reef patrol]

[crisp granite]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sweat-mrs-puff-oh-neptune-massive-sweating-gif-4349604

[pale sigil]

im worried about it being Palit

i feel dirty

[crisp granite]

palit ain't bad

just not great

besides

as long as the gpu doesn't throttle, you'll get normal performance

[pale sigil]

normal

[crisp granite]

just oc potential will be limited

[pale sigil]

ooft

[crisp granite]

that's fucking horrifying

[ashen spindle]

oh no, stock performance, how terrible

[crisp granite]

losing a whole frame

it's the end of the world

[cursive summit]

Shit, 5 FPS lower frames than a 1300 euro card

[ashen spindle]

and gaining 2 in whatever lows they show

[cursive summit]

Better take a loan and get the best one