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#🔌│tech
crisp granite
hard thicket
e peen measurements
wheat plume
this TINY ASS preview makes me laugh :')
crisp granite
POV facing off david with his 3 rocks
but david is a samsung g9 and will kick your ass
misty pier
more like 49mm
chrome estuary
I actually tried to buy that monitor
But it was during the riots and I was unable to get it since Amazon kept trying to move the shipping location to a "safe area" and kept charging my account which put almost every single dollar in my Account on hold.
Or it was right before the riots.
But when it went to ship, the riots kicked off
And fucking ruined everything
crisp granite
what riots?
misty pier
shit happens
crisp granite
where in the world?
crisp granite
all I got in my country is some anti-mask protests in Ottawa
at least it's only a few thousand at most
ivory geyser
We had around 1500 people protesting against the face masks in the main square of our capital - all of them tried very hard to keep 2-3 distance from each other. It was quite admirable tbh
crisp granite
nice
honestly, though this may offend some, I wish the fire department would use fire hoses on those not wearing masks
wheat plume
TMW a first gen ipod has a larger battery than the some of the iPhones
ivory geyser
Cant use fire hoses on something that isnt even banned to begin with. Our government set up a rather detailed guide on where the masks are mandatory and where people can go around without them.
reef patrol
Didn't it need to, since it used actual harddrives?
Those suck up power like nobody's business ... Well not as much as CD players but hey.
shadow minnow
How to take night mode time lapse? When I go to time lapse there is no night mode option
ashen spindle
Zen 3 threadripper codename is Chagall it seems like
timid chasm
Oh it's for charity shit
reef tundra
Smile, you are on camera
timid chasm
X amount of your purchases go to a charity that you choose from Amazon
and I have a script that always changes amazon.com to smile.amazon.com
cursive summit
Yeah I ain't smiling
reef tundra
ah yes, generousity from bezos.. will donate for bezos again
timid chasm
Money for Child's Play with literally no effort after setting up the script on my part so eh
more importantly the first picture of a pink hand warmer mousepad is actual turds
cursive summit
reef tundra
Vulkan op. Coincidence? i think not.
wheat plume
VULKAN FTW <3
wheat plume
No, it's Vexxed
cursive summit
No that's just an alias
wheat plume
Sounds pretty Vexxing
reef tundra
Vulkan.. vul kan the american
wheat plume
That reminds me of this
https://youtu.be/WLyaGhSIqp4
cursive summit
What are you watching on your spare time holy crap?
wheat plume
i find human throats very narrow, it is VEXXING
reef tundra
I don't own the rights to Spice and Wolf. This is purely for entertainment.
This is how the law works. get away lawyers, you have lost and will gain nothing sir. good bye sir. you get nothing.
cursive summit
I sense way too many sexual innuendos and I hate it
reef tundra
I dab on them haterz
reef tundra
I dab on you too if i need to
timid chasm
the Dubliners don't count I hope?
cursive summit
Fuck Dublin, all my Belfast homies hate Dublin
wheat plume
Im not from NI :')
reef tundra
You like em big, you like em chunky
wheat plume
Nah ....
cursive summit
@reef tundra Does say a lot doesn't it
reef tundra
You need to keep the prisoners somewhere
wheat plume
:')
cursive summit
We need a Lanaland somewhere
reef tundra
the movie
wheat plume
Intel with their 14NM++++++++++++++++++ CPU tech
wheat plume
and their OP coolers
cursive summit
She likes herself Dingled, so this is a perfect fit
cursive summit
Dingled, shingled, mingled, pringled
wheat plume
my wifi is too shit to watch 720P video .-. FUCK LIFE
cursive summit
I like that location, might move there one day
wheat plume
o?
reef tundra
As long as i can nuke other countries when bored that could work
wheat plume
:P
reef tundra
maybe some 30 megatons will do
cursive summit
@reef tundra Might as well move to Finland then, nobody will look for you in a country that doesn't exist
reef tundra
You mean snow biome land
wheat plume
.-. I cant watch video cause my fucking wifi is shit the last 3 days
reef tundra
They got trees, they got snow and they got ice
reef tundra
and the root user password and public ipadress and the open port number would be fine
cursive summit
Oof
reef tundra
Add more wifiwaves
wheat plume
wheat plume
abnormal
Thats normal for me .-.
cursive summit
1.1.1.1 might help with that
@reef tundra Do you think Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 will be of use for her?
reef tundra
nah, own dns server
cursive summit
How the fuck do you make your own DNS?
reef tundra
sub 1 ms ping
wheat plume
i use adguard DNS but im currently not
reef tundra
you bother some other DNS on some common domainnames and index those
cursive summit
@wheat plume https://1.1.1.1/dns/
vagrant marsh
adguard?
wheat plume
is ad and tracker blocking DNS
cursive summit
Yeaah I'll just mod my router for that
wheat plume
reef tundra
Single point of attack to harverst all internet activity
cursive summit
Still waiting for Cloudflare's and Mozilla's VPN
reef tundra
Are you loading up on vpns?
wheat plume
how do I verify im on that DNS? cause in adguards website they tell you if you are
cursive summit
On 1.1.1.1?
wheat plume
ye
cursive summit
It'll tell you if you are connected
ashen spindle
you set it in your connection settings and tell it to use that one instead of default
cursive summit
I send my help link with my private info so fml 
reef tundra
cat /etc/resolv.conf
wheat plume
sadly im on windows rn cause I need to work on the C# project :/
reef tundra
the first responding nameserver is the one used
red oyster
You can just go to your adapter settings and read what you entered if you entered something
Otherwise I believe ipconfig \ALL shows it as well but I'm not sure
wheat plume
red oyster
The upload downgrade looks nice
cursive summit
Hey that helped
wheat plume
right... .-.
ashen spindle
doubt it changed anything
wheat plume
my wifi been so slow the last few days ;-; and IDK why
reef tundra
The ping is lower
cursive summit
Well the ping is much better
ashen spindle
thats just the result of unstable wifi
cursive summit
How many bars do you have on the wifi?
wheat plume
full cause my phone is right beside my PC
cursive summit
Is this dorm internet we are talking about?
wheat plume
mobile hotspot :') the dorm wifi cuts out so often its useless
but its fast AF when it isnt cutting off
red oyster
Do they not offer Lan?
wheat plume
ethernet?
red oyster
Yes
wheat plume
yea but that also cuts out -.-
reef tundra
Poor hub
ashen spindle
still dont get why you're not tethering instead of using wifi to the phone, but 
red oyster
Curious
cursive summit
Maybe @ashen spindle will agree with me, can you ask the IT technicians of the dorm to place a wifi repeater next to your place?
wheat plume
Weve been calling out our landlord for the past 3 weeks to get better internet
he said hes gotten vodaphone around to upgrade to them so that seems promising
that will happen next month apparently
reef tundra
He is too busy owning stuff to help
red oyster
Maybe ask them how the internet comes to you
reef tundra
With packets
red oyster
At my place we used to have Powerline/d-lan but it went through two electricity nets
So it was not really very good
Landlord noticed eventually and now the entire house is just one electricity network thingu
So that made that a lot less unstable
wheat plume
Hes a nice guy, but he forgots abouyt everything
wheat plume
Linus: builds OP computer with Intel sponsored CPU and "CYRO COOLING" and overclocks to 5.4GHz
Also Linus: Plays CSGO as a benchmark
reef tundra
RUSH B
ashen spindle
what else do you want to see? OC the crap out of a cpu to then play a gpu bound title?
wheat plume
csgo is more CPU heavy?
wheat plume
idk
reef tundra
How would one even know what assumptions lead the the opposide conclusion of which they themselves do not know what lead to them?
cursive summit
Dunno playing CS:GO is quite anticlimatic nowadays
cursive summit
It plays anything well so "We got +x00 more FPS" is just stupid comparison
I'd want to see something like Ashes of the Singularity more
reef tundra
That is why your homework folder exists with its 5 tb of homework
wheat plume
:')
cursive summit
@wheat plume Why are you watching hentai?
wheat plume
Im not :')
reef tundra
Liar
cursive summit
Why do you want to watch it?
wheat plume
reef tundra
Whet
reef tundra
🚰
wheat plume
Halo Infinite: The Case of the Infinite Release Date
ì think my friend is downloading a bunch of shit on my hotspot cause my battery drain is stupid
10 minutes ago my phone was at 70% now its 45%
that only happens if there is constant download on the hotspot
the dorm wifi .-.
ashen spindle
So what you are saying is that your hotspot is bad and someone else is also using it and you didn’t think that could be causing it?
wheat plume
he said he wasnt downloading shit, but he's always got his torrent client open in the background so he probably is, or he's seeding whatever he thought he had downloaded already
cursive summit
And your phone is hosting the hotspot via LTE?
wheat plume
ye
cursive summit
wheat plume
cursive summit
Just.. get a modem 😄
wheat plume
hm?
vagrant marsh
just get a regular modem
wheat plume
yeh, but those cant be ported either cause they are a sim card
cursive summit
I am retiring my 4G-AC53U soon
wheat plume
and also LTE
ashen spindle
vagrant marsh
whaaat?
cursive summit
vagrant marsh
ohh. urs got wings
cursive summit
I bought this for 130€
Retiring it
Can either 4G or just Ethernet
@wheat plume You interested?
wheat plume
I rang the landlord just now
ask him about the internet issue
said the switch to Vodaphone is happening soon so hopefully that means we will get fiber to each house and then a router in each house to connect to
cause rn its ethernet to the main router and wifi to each house's access point
cursive summit
That's a lot of strain on the bandwidth
reef tundra
All your computer belongs to us
fair gull
@wheat plume vodafone*
wheat plume
oh
reef sluice
lmao, I thought that Ziggo was a Virgin box as we have the exact same design
down to the pin being slid under the main part
ashen spindle
it's all the same just rebranded for many ISP's
wheat plume
its gotten better
I can do basic web browsing somewhat fast now
wait, that server is far away....
aha¬
oo, this is clever
wheat plume
and its gone to shit again :/
cursive summit
@wheat plume what are you studying even?
cursive summit
So same thing as me
cursive summit
That looks like.. jscript?
fair gull
this eill be an easy E
wheat plume
:') im the best at it in my friend group
sadly
actually no, im not actually
nvm xd but the person who is better isnt in college this semester
wheat plume
(it's C#)
wheat plume
Tony cmon :') you know Java doesnt have capital letters for method names
cursive summit
It looked somethin akin to C but I haven't even seen C# in action
fair gull
if u have seen java uve seen c#
wheat plume
C# likes to have capital letters in the method names
fair gull
c# is just the better java
reef tundra
Both are cringe
cursive summit
I just like PHP that's about it
reef tundra
C is the best
cursive summit
I hate CSS too
wheat plume
I just like PHP that's about it
@cursive summit you and cop be PHP twins then :')
reef tundra
php is horrible language
cursive summit
He's my twin brother in general you nutella walnut @wheat plume
cursive summit
Meh I might jquery
wheat plume
....is he??!
cursive summit
The one time I used jQuery it was confusing af
fair gull
it has very few functions js doesnt have
cursive summit
Python?
fair gull
oh dear god
reef tundra
pseudocode and made because perl was too hard
fair gull
just wait for python 4.x and the next divide in modules
reef tundra
Assembler AVR
fair gull
so because u dont invest time to learn it it sucks?
cursive summit
I never said it sucks
reef tundra
Because C is like a demon. it does not like to hold your hand
reef sluice
then don't learn it
reef sluice
that's what I thought
fair gull
cpp is not c
reef tundra
c++ is a c framework
fair gull
a horrible one at that
reef tundra
php is too inconsistent with itself.
wheat plume
^^^^
cursive summit
At least it's understandable
wheat plume
Seems like someone forgot how the syntax worked halfway through making it
wheat plume
so they made new syntax
reef tundra
visual basic?
fair gull
yes
cursive summit
Don't have much knowledge about either
fair gull
basic is even easier but cant easily do gui on new systems
reef tundra
Unless it deprecates one of the functions to just undeprecate it the next year
cursive summit
After I finish I don't intend to work in soft development
Might take up something completely different for masters
fair gull
so
cursive summit
Coding isn't fun
fair gull
why not do smth u are interested in i meant
wheat plume
I fucking HOPE that when the switch to Vodafone is made, we will get useable internet, but it will probably still be the same layout it is now .-. with an AP in each house and a single router for us all
reef tundra
Sharing is caring
cursive summit
Gotta finish it or pay 2k euros and lose free tuition
wheat plume
not when its internet connection :')
fair gull
@cursive summit i know but why did u not choose smth u have interest in like normal people doing higher education
cursive summit
@wheat plume You can have my 600mbps internet connection if you want, I don't mind sharing
@fair gull dunno I wasn't really into anything when I had to choose edu
wheat plume
gimme xd
reef tundra
No sharing, communism not allowed.. yet
cursive summit
So I chose the thing I was best at while in high school
And that was a fucking mistake cause now it's just torture
reef tundra
Cant do some minors in other studies?
cursive summit
Plus softdev studies are the shortest out of any other studies here
No such things here
wheat plume
softdev xd
reef tundra
harddev
cursive summit
Luna always finds ways to think of lewd things
fair gull
while i enjoy codong a ton i would not wanna study it
cursive summit
That's the thinf
I don't mind coding
It's a really nice way to force your brain muscles to keep working
Basically a ticket out of alzheimers
But as a high education, it gets unbearably complex
wheat plume
Luna always finds ways to think of lewd things
@cursive summit Luna Lovegood?
cursive summit
@wheat plume Don't you bring Luna into this
cursive summit
She was my favourite character
fair gull
i dont like being limited in time
wheat plume
She is mine too :D
reef tundra
rule...
fair gull
i code at my pace and my pace only
wheat plume
wish i could ;-;
cursive summit
Like I don't mind C++ either that much
reef tundra
I will just hyperfocus and make some overengineered piece of software.
reef tundra
Then do C
cursive summit
Other trees, new thing
reef tundra
no classes to keep track
fair gull
@reef tundra well u can do smth class like
fair gull
by storing func ptrs in the struct
cursive summit
@reef tundra I know
crimson wigeon
C++ will also make you do ->
cursive summit
@crimson wigeon I study C++ tyvm
crimson wigeon
There is no escape from pointers!
cursive summit
And at least right now, it's unnecessarily complex
We have to do everything with classes and pointers
reef tundra
Pointers are easy and are enormously helpfull
cursive summit
I just want to escape that shit and do it with structs without overburdening my brain
fair gull
crimson wigeon
But classes are just glorified structs
reef tundra
Yea, structs and function pointers
cursive summit
For example, I never understood how recursion works
fair gull
current project is a game server emulator for a childhood game i like
reef tundra
recursion is an function that calls itself with some stop condition
cursive summit
As much as I tried, my brain refused to learn anything that requires logic
reef tundra
else stack overflow
ashen spindle
or without a stop 
cursive summit
Like recursion
reef tundra
Recursion can often be interchanged with a while loop and viceversa
ashen spindle
recursion is "make another player run this thing from 0 again" sorta
cursive summit
Yeah but the way we were thought to execute it with return loops really confused me
And my brain to this day can't comprehend it
Dunno at least for now, I want to get a degree and work in retailing
Marketing or something
I feel like selling a product is prolly what I really like doing right now the most
reef tundra
Because it allows the recursion to loop values back to itself. For instance going through every folder and subfolder and count the total size. It would feed back the size of all files + every called recursion of a subfolder
cursive summit
Yeah I don't understand how to implement such a thing
My brain is incapable of logic
Which is why coding in general is just not my thing
ashen spindle
..why did you take it as your course then?
cursive summit
I already said, 2 years ago I didn't have a clue what to do
So just chose IT since I was decent at it
ashen spindle
so you didnt think of like try it out for 15 minutes with youtube or something first 
cursive summit
I should have picked linguistics but eh 😄
@ashen spindle I was coding for 2 years prior to graduation from high school
It was just simple and straightforward
Being forced to learn all the intricacies you want it or not is what killed proogramming for me
ashen spindle
I mean you kinda need that to make useable code
wheat plume
I forgot about that .-. the college shut down their servers for the entire weekend to upgrade them
cursive summit
Yeah working in IT sphere wasn't something I considered back then
wheat plume
COULD THEY NOT DO THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEMESTER??!!
cursive summit
Getting bachellors is more important
Since literally every job requires Bc degree
reef tundra
The intrecacies is where the optimal code is found. When specific characteristic of the computer is used to make it more robust, reusable or performant.
cursive summit
Dunno I primarily wanted to game dev
Still don't know how
Don't know which languages game devs use for games, etc
I don't even know how programs in general are made
ashen spindle
c++/C# for vast majority
crimson wigeon
C++ usually for engine low level stuff and then engine specific languages
reef patrol
Your own stuff if you're REALLY indie. Or Unity/UE4 as a basis - So that's... C# to begin with I think
reef tundra
Nowadays mostly c# with unity. C++ or c at the engine level
ashen spindle
just look at unity or unreal and make your own stuff, both can be used to make games without really coding
reef tundra
my friend made use of uwp to make some game
cursive summit
Well the games I want to make are AAAA in scope, so overambition intensifies 😄
Lack of motivation and way too little qualification
reef tundra
Well those need >100k hours of manhours
cursive summit
I can imagine
ashen spindle
there are more than enough youtube videos out there to fix that second part
cursive summit
Qualification? Yeah
Nothing can make me motivated in something I don't want to do though
ashen spindle
well then quit uni and work retail or something bc that's a thing you need everywhere
reef tundra
That is tautological
cursive summit
Again I can't actually work in retail without a degree
At least in my country
Here everything is bachellors locked
B2B retail is something that'd be awesome, but that's considered a high end job
Good luck getting it without Bc or even a PhD
reef tundra
Sounds counterproductive system...
forest sphinx
Yeah so I'm going b550 e @dry tendon
Looks good, black friday deal puts it at $219. I was looking at the tuf+ but it doesn't have a header for the usbc port on the case I'm looking at
Also the vrms are rated highly and I do plan to overclock this thing since I can't with my current one
dry tendon
OCing is overrated especially on Zen
but also future Intel systems
get the B550 E for the internal USB C
IDK which boards have that feature
The TUF B550M WiFi is awesome I have one on my gf's computer
dry tendon
IDK if the X570 Tomahawk is as feature rich
its for sure good, but how good exactly is the issue
I got my cheap ass B550 Phantom Gaming 4 since I know its VRM can take a 5900X without OCing and no issues at all
and it was cheap
fickle ore
X570 Tomahawk uses the ISL69247 controller of which six signals are taken for the vcore portion of the VRM and then doubled using ISL6617 phase doublers. Those 12 phases then connect to the stars of the show, a dozen ISL99360 60A power stages
wheat plume
Ah shit, here we go again
reef tundra
The vim install was much quicker
wheat plume
Cant fucking make WPF GUI in Vim :')
reef tundra
Dont need that meme in the code
ashen spindle
... why are you updating it if you are on slow ass wifi?
fair gull
i almost finished downloading and uploading 3gb of video
forest sphinx
The only other arguement for x570 is that I might be moving to a place soon that will actually give me speeds high enough to take advantage of 10G ethernet
chrome estuary
3 minutes... 876mb in 3 minutes?
forest sphinx
Lemme look at tomahawk price now
It'd actually be the same price as the b550-e on sale if it was in stock
Interesting
Also is there a graph like that for b550 as well?
@fickle ore
Either way I need to buy a board with qflash
Cause I am upgrading from Intel. So yeah, I need that feature pretty bad
wheat plume
Seems its still not safe to use kernel 5.9 with a nvidia card yet
the "mid november" GPU Driver update that nvidia promised isnt online yet
ashen spindle
what even is in 5.9 that you want to use it so bad?
wheat plume
ArcoLinux auto installs the latest kernel when you install the OS
so id automatically get it
ashen spindle
so go and look for an older version
wheat plume
Thats how I found out nvidia drivers dont like .-. I was installing and booted up and things were very broken
I did, I downgraded the kernel, purged the GPU drivers
reinstalled the gpu drivers on the older kernel and it was still not working
ashen spindle
surely there is some sort of command or repro that uses the older version
wheat plume
maybe if I skip telling the installer to grab the GPU drivers and install them manually after downgrading kernel
or switch fully over to AMD
Which I will do when I wanna upgrade
ashen spindle
if only someone would've thought about that before and not get a nvidia gpu in the current one
wheat plume
I didnt imagine a situation where the drivers dont like the kernel version
There is some change in the kernel that must be specifically catered to in the gpu drivers it seems, they didnt give much details in their post
ashen spindle
yeah idk what it is and frankly I dont care, my ubuntu vm runs and thats all I need
wheat plume
it told me this was done updating.... LIES!
even got the notification telling me I can launch it
misty pier
weird to see you using windows
wheat plume
I have dual boot
I need windows for a project this year so I installed it onto a spare SSD
the SSD I had in my old PC
ashen spindle
still confused why you didnt just VM it
crimson wigeon
Just the bloatware Windows 10 helpfully installs for you
cursive summit
Yep
I would honestly delete shit like Edge, Xbox, Phone, Support, all bloatware like Candy Crush and Asphalt, Skype
Unless you really need or will potentially use it
The less ransomware the better
AI be getting real sentient nowadays
wheat plume
:')
Just the bloatware Windows 10 helpfully installs for you
@crimson wigeon literally
forgot that its there, need to remove
shadow minnow
Dolby atmos is black magic.
I watched one video to see HDR effect and Atmos few times, watched on 6s plus, and even with headset, I heard that sound that should come from behind is different, but it just sounded like from behind, and I knew sound is coming from elsewhere.
But now I literally tried it on phone speakers, that do not isolate ears like headphones so I thought there is no way to make sound sound like it is coming from back. But I literally hear that is coming from back although it is not. Like what?? Some kinda magic?
Sounds as good with AirPods, but these isolate ears. But how do you do that on phone??
12 pro max has impressive speakers, supporting atmos.
Video: (cool things start happening 0:30)
https://youtu.be/3VZFpwlXKpg
pale sigil
Dolby atmos is overrated
vagrant marsh
creative sxfi is overrated. damn gimmick
pale sigil
also
these videos are a shit way to test it
Dolby atmos is only really good in cinema or in a proper surround sound setting
shadow minnow
I mean, sadly it does not have as good implementation in movies
But in this demo it is great even with phone
hard thicket
that little .1 makes mostly the most difference lol
timid chasm
Yes. Buy new pc parts at every error, always
vagrant marsh
memory problems do have that nasty side effect, yea
timid chasm
I don't know that that's a memory problem though. Could just be something with a program
reef tundra
Could be some memory sharing controller fuckin up
vagrant marsh
well, i restarted the pc and no error message now
misty saffron
no @vagrant marsh that just looks like very well made software
the error message describes the normal behavior of a page that contains code
ashen spindle
looks like the MSI suprim X 3090 will come out 2 days after rdna2 launch, on the 20th, guess they really need it out before people can get the 6900xt for 1/2 of the price lol
neat oriole
Don’t mind the messages but how does one do this for discord
It’s a reply to a specific message and if you click on the linked message it takes you to it
ashen spindle
looks like some betterdiscoord/ripcord or whatever its called stuff?
ashen spindle
mobile, desktop or web?
neat oriole
Mobile iOS
I can’t find anything about it
Seems to be maybe some sort of random beta features?
Like how some Canadians got stickers
But I’ve only seen it once
ashen spindle
huh interresting
neat oriole
It’s like better quoting
Yes I know
But idk how to do that
I mean that’s my guess too just wondering if anyone else has run into it
timid chasm
Are the AMD models the only cards launch this week?
ashen spindle
should be yeah
at least we dont really have any info on the models that are a bit different aside from "later this month" so maybe the week after FE launch
timid chasm
I bet they end up being more of a bitch to get ahold of than NVIDIAs
I mean on the day of* maybe not overall
ashen spindle
doubt it, stock is higher, so at worst it's similar based on high demand
timid chasm
I felt like with NVIDIA a lot of people were in the mindset of "nah they'll be available" so they didn't bother early on.
But I hope it's not as bad
pale sigil
Is it wise to go with amd reference cards
pale sigil
Actual question
old marlin
if the coolers are as well there is little reason to go with aftermarket cards tbh
old marlin
that also probably is the reason why there is only a reference 6900
since they don't want any partners making worse PCBs
old marlin
expect there to be low supply though
reef patrol
Overclockers UK would be the obvious one for you.
old marlin
reef patrol
reef patrol
Kind of weird how no one has product pages up for 6800XT.
pale sigil
Ye it is
I'm letting mu friend use my PayPal to try and get one while I try to get one too 😂
If I end up ordering two I'll cancel the one that comes second
ashen spindle
There will be a lot of models from gigabyte asrock etc. that are the reference design. So in the end it’s just like buying a 3080 from anyone
reef patrol
Supposedly there is only reference early on.
AMD didn't want anyone to go off-ref.
Which is GREAT news for a watercooler.
reef patrol
Cooler is one thing - Those will change. The PCB howeverf.
ashen spindle
I more meant to show the only difference in cards you will probably see at launch is a slight variation in color on the coolor
vagrant marsh
are you sure those arnt just the same picture?
ashen spindle
ah, seems like one asus rep confirmed custom models are out ~one week later, so 25th very likely
vagrant marsh
arnt they supposed to launch tomorrow?
ashen spindle
i got no clue what you are on about
vagrant marsh
yea, they release the 18th
ashen spindle
??????
old marlin
asus reps 
ashen spindle
I am wide awake, you appear drunk
vagrant marsh
so only 3 more days till they release
ashen spindle
not the custom models and 3 more days is not tomorrow either???
vagrant marsh
i thought the 16th, but it was the 18th
so custom models wont release simultaniously
ashen spindle
yes that was known for weeks
vagrant marsh
okey?
ashen spindle
rip
thorn latch
vagrant marsh
did you overclock perhaps?
reef tundra
Corrupting your ram wont matter much as it loses the data on power off and on start-up has an random pattern
reef tundra
Ram is volitile
thorn latch
I know that
ashen spindle
well, still in warranty period I hope?
thorn latch
Yeh
ashen spindle
should be an easy replacement at least then
reef tundra
it loses all its data on power loss. Either the ram controller has been damaged or the initialisation phase fails
ashen spindle
doesn't really matter, it's something that should be replaced
vagrant marsh
cant fix hardware issues with windows repair
reef tundra
It tell that it is useless
thorn latch
I can’t get into windows now?
Ight it works
How come it doesn’t work when booting from windows manager
ashen spindle
it will work fine if it doesn't use the parts of the ram that are broken, so probably just random chance
reef tundra
Seems to be that some ram modules have failed with 5.5gb of total size
might be possible to yank out the defective ram stick and run on the other functioning ones
thorn latch
your assuming i have more than 2
ashen spindle
are both producing errors ?
thorn latch
not sure
ashen spindle
try with just one
thorn latch
it takes an hour to scan
ashen spindle
I mean you can also just take a chance and run your stuff with just one stick for the time
reef tundra
The lowest error address starts on 11369mbs
thorn latch
i have to return it and buy it againg
again
my friend who put it in "it doesn't matter if you tutch it"
told him not too
ashen spindle
touching it doesn't cause this lol
reef tundra
ESD can easily damage ic's especially when ungrounded and on a carpet
ashen spindle
yeah in that case sure, but just touching it doesnt cause it
thorn latch
everything would have broken then
ashen spindle
could be a number of things, no chance in really figuring it out
ashen spindle
google.com <-
thorn latch
so what do i do
reef tundra
2kv for some cmos if you are lucky. while some can reach in the 10 to 20 kv
ashen spindle
get new ram
thorn latch
buy more ram then return the other when it arives? @ashen spindle
ashen spindle
if you dont want to wait on them replacing it, could also ask the shop if they can send you a new kit and you send yours back then etc.
thorn latch
its amazon
reef tundra
Mostlikely they will get scrapped
wheat plume
O.o its at 60% now
ashen spindle
well, same thing applies, either get a new one and return yours or email support and ask if they can send a new one before you return youres
thorn latch
ashen spindle
nice
vagrant marsh
now thats service
ashen spindle
??
reef tundra
only if you dont return the damaged items
vagrant marsh
if you dont ship it in time they charge you, yes.
ashen spindle
they will not charge you if you send your defective kit back
reef tundra
keyword: or
thorn latch
as in the slot
reef tundra
It only begins to fail after 12gb
urban lynx
have you tried a different slot?
can you try the ram on a different board?
how long do you have the board?
have you used other ram on the board?
can you test other ram on the board?
thorn latch
i can try them in slots 2 and 4
ashen spindle
it's a valid concern, but very unlikely, the way it fails wouldn't make sense for the board to cause it, as the board only talks to the controller, so it wouldn't make sense to only fail after 12gb and then multiple times
ashen spindle
but for the time obviously doesnt hurt to put them in the other slots till the new ram arrives
ashen spindle
no
thorn latch
im using 1 and 3
reef tundra
Depends on the mobo
urban lynx
usually the board or it's booklet tells you which slots are the "priority" ones
reef tundra
The manual will mention which ones are optimal.
urban lynx
though afaik you can just use whichever, might not be the best efficency, but it should work
ashen spindle
yes, but where those channels are depends on the board
as I said, some are laid out AABB other ABAB
thorn latch
the channels are always 1,2 and 3,4
urban lynx
the board always adresses the slots in a priority list...
so if you only use 1 ram, it's best to use it in the first adressed slot.
fickle ore
daisy chain is usually A2 B2 layout and t-topo might be A1 B1, but depends on mobo?
ashen spindle
the channels are always 1,2 and 3,4
nope
thorn latch
imma rip my manual out of my boxes
reef tundra
It might even not be able to boot if the first preferred slot has not ram module at all, in cheap models.
urban lynx
well, that's really cheap then, lol
ashen spindle
ehhhh dont think thats an issue with any modern budget ones anymore
urban lynx
^
fickle ore
found some unused DDR3 ram and sealed samsung 850 evo 500gb lol, wonder if they sell for cents
reef patrol
shouldnt ram always use slot 2 and 4?
@vagrant marsh On 99% of boards today? Yes.
Back in DDR3 days? More case by case but usually 2,4
Although most motherboards know to check both banks.
urban lynx
wearing a dress and then wanting to crawl down to look at your own motherboard isnt quite as comfortable nor as easy as i thought it would. lol.
ashen spindle
well, either in 1/2 or 3/4 based on that
reef tundra
Well, it tells the reader that it automagically detects whether 1,3 or 2,4 or 1,2,3,4 should be used
ashen spindle
so you have two sticks so you either of those options
you check the manual which ones are labled 1/2/3/4
then put two in either 1 and 2, or 3 and 4
thorn latch
next to each other?
ashen spindle
you check the manual which ones are labled 1/2/3/4
urban lynx
depending on wherever it says row 1, 2, 3, 4 are
reef tundra
Usually the closes to the cpu is labelled the 1 but you cannot just assume this without consulting the manual
thorn latch
that is the manual
ashen spindle
there should be a sketch of the board, which includes the names of the slots
so look at that
urban lynx
some boards even have it written in small next to the slots, but dont count on that
reef tundra
block diagram, physical layout, connector layout or something along those lines
thorn latch
ashen spindle
ok, so you put them into the board, so that there is 1 empt slot between them
reef tundra
4,2,3,1 (closest to cpu to fartherst
thorn latch
so am i ment to have them in 1 and 2
ashen spindle
1/2 or 3/4 yes
thorn latch
as in 0101
ashen spindle
yes
wheat plume
They separated the team explorer so that SOME of the git functionality is now in the new Git explorer in Visual Studio
Cant figure out how to push a staged commit using it so I had to revert to using the old teams explorer by turning off the preview feature in setting
thorn latch
but does it make a differnce
reef tundra
(1 and 2) or (3 and 4)
reef patrol
The manual and what people generally say are not the same.
thorn latch
so does it matter or not
reef patrol
2/4 is counting, not reading what the manual labels. 😄
reef tundra
This is from the manual
ashen spindle
so does it matter or not
1010 or 0101 doesn't matter, but yes it matters if you do it like that or in another way
if you dont do it like that wiht 2 sticks you lose out on some performance
reef patrol
The reason why 0101 is so popular is that a few AIO coolers and such ram into th efirst RAM slot 😄
thorn latch
reef patrol
Literally impossible to tell what is going on there 😄
ashen spindle
I can't tell if there is an empty slot between them lol
reef patrol
But they are a slot apart. So correct.
thorn latch
its 1010
wheat plume
thought you put ram into every second slot? so slot 2 and 4 or 1 and 3?
ashen spindle
then its fine
wheat plume
thats what I did
ashen spindle
lana pls
reef patrol
thought you put ram into every second slot? so slot 2 and 4 or 1 and 3?
@wheat plume That is the standard, yes 😄
ashen spindle
we JUST went over that
wheat plume
I read
ashen spindle
apparently not
ashen spindle
just make sure you send it out before january 31st
reef tundra
Also dont unplug and plug the memory while running
thorn latch
ill send them within a week of instalation
what about putting a fork in my psu @reef tundra ?
thorn latch
or thermal paste on the ram 🤯
my parents gonna be triggered
gonna say pcs are a waste
shoulda sticked to my laptop or 2010 mac or 2012 macbook pro
i can do it
@ashen spindle can you confirm this is correct with me
the item is damadged but packaging isnt
ashen spindle
looks correct yeah
wheat plume
why rgb ram?
ashen spindle
why rgb
asks the person going "ohhhh shiny" from an ethernet port :p
wheat plume
why rgb
asks the person going "ohhhh shiny" from an ethernet port :p
@ashen spindle First time I saw that, I thought something was gone wrong... then I read the motherboard manual and its meant to happen
thorn latch
imagine doxing your own name
wheat plume
Google did that to me once .-.
thorn latch
im going to sell my pc boxes on emay for the amount i paid for them
How do I cable manage this
ashen spindle
well, looks like there are already plenty of zip ties lol, guess you could try and route the cable on the bottom to come from the same place the gpu power cable goes through? hard to see if that would fit
thorn latch
the cables are too stiff
ashen spindle
rip, @reef patrol you got more ideas probably
thorn latch
my audio on my gameplay footage goes out of sync when i import it to my editing softwares
is that becouse of my ram
the frames freeze every 5 minuits
of the recording if its abouuve 30 mins
ashen spindle
hard to say, maybe? could just be the software itself idk
crimson wigeon
Does it go out of sync in a video player?
thorn latch
no
crimson wigeon
Probably your editing software really hates variable framerate video which is what most screen recordings are, so change it to constant if it isn't already
thorn latch
its not just with hitfilm i tried it with davinchi
its only with mp4s longer than 30
@ashen spindle @crimson wigeon
crimson wigeon
Also highly compressed codecs in editors is gonna be a rough time
crimson wigeon
Yes but are the recordings themselves constant??
wheat plume
TIL that firefox tabs show up in alt+tab on windows
alongside apps
fair gull
dont for me
ashen spindle
new thing, they did it with Edge and I guess FF copied the option
might be for newer versions of windows
fickle ore
@ashen spindle amazon cs just told me to keep em for free heh
ashen spindle
well, uh, want to sell them to me for cheap? lol
fickle ore
nah sry, I only have 4x8 so I'll just use them for 10% free perf increase 😄
ashen spindle
wait I thought the thing you ordered was a 4 stick kit
fickle ore
haha no, there are none like that, just bought two 2x8 kits seperataly and cancelled one
ashen spindle
Ahh ye makes sense then
But you know, incase that canceled one also shows up, let me know :p
fickle ore
I mean, that I bought one kit, and put an order on the 2nd kit but cancelled it afterwards but it ended up being shipping anyway to me
So there won't be coming more sadly 😄
Sorry! 😦
ashen spindle
https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2020/11/ASUS-RX-6800-XTROG-STRIX-LC3.jpg doesn't look too bad for an AiB card
and who would've thought this would be an AMD card just a year ago :p
misty pier
damn everything be censored
vagrant marsh
those pixels give me dyslectia
its not a bedsheet or something, you can see someone took the effort to pixelate everything around it
ashen spindle
well yeah, dont want to lose your job or get in trouble for the leak
wheat plume
its been stuck here for a while :/
fickle ore
wnats the difference between Samsung 850 EVO and samsung 860 EVO?
ashen spindle
10
fickle ore
-.-
pale sigil
...
xD
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
he put an old stick in even though i keep saying dont
misty pier
vagrant marsh
Ynot, ur 5950 is worse than a 7700k 😛
ashen spindle
can work, just more difficult to get right with voltage and timings
vagrant marsh
yea. i would start at 3200 and work ur way up
and i think voltage 1.35 works in any case
fickle ore
tnx
vagrant marsh
then change the ram XD
pale sigil
im trying to tell him
but he wont listen
lol
i dont think im getting my cpu anytime soon
:/
vagrant marsh
me neither
pale sigil
so annoyed my friend got his before me, they seem to be prioritizing bundles
ashen spindle
makes sense
vagrant marsh
i keep checking sites that keep the stores in check. saw a 5950 being sold. 1 in stock. i click buy and boom, some1 else was ahead of me
ashen spindle
bundles are less likely to be from scalpers/bots
pale sigil
Pisses me off because they increased the price too
So i paid more than all other places
:/
ashen spindle
I'm down to sell mine for just a small fee of 100% extra
wheat plume
Ukui desktop looks a lot like windows for the panel and app icons.... but the rest of the design is not
pale sigil
i think is hould be ok
i have my friend using my card details to get a gpu along with me on another store
vagrant marsh
marriage?
fickle ore
any thoughts about cooling a 5800x? my initial thoughts were a kryonaut paste + NH-D15S + NF-a12x25 as a front fan (ram clearance needs a NH-D15S with a 120mm fan)
vagrant marsh
why not a dark rock pro 4
ashen spindle
I think your setup is as good as it gets with just air
fickle ore
Dark Rock Pro 4 would be a contender indeed, comes slightly cheaper (87€ vs 107€)
Its a few degrees warmer but slightly less louder
vagrant marsh
i think double heatsink and fans are neccesary for a 5800x. so any who has that would suffice. beyond that, its personal taste
ashen spindle
idle doesnt matter, and aside from the 5600x they all produce the same ammount of heat more or less
wheat plume
WinForms datagridviews have a CellClick function
WPF datagridviews dont ;-; how do I do this then??!!!
ashen spindle
guess the 800x only has one hotspot instead of a spread out heat of 2 chiplets, but that should only make a minor difference
fickle ore
yeah I don't really mind the heat, it's pretty low on zen 3, but high temps can be a problem
yeah double heatsink and 2 fans are probably necessary for a 5800x
ashen spindle
fairly certain on stock you can easily get away with a decent single heatsink and 1/2 fans
just 140W as PPT
fickle ore
stock? what is that :kekw