#πβtech
cursive summit
ashen spindle
yes because you forget something very important lana
cursive summit
4K 27" 75Hz FreeSync?
ashen spindle
US prices dont include VAT
wheat plume
π€ oohhhhhh
cursive summit
IPS also
wheat plume
WELP
vagrant marsh
us dont have vat?
ashen spindle
they do
ashen spindle
but its not included in advertised prices
vagrant marsh
so, if we look at something at american amazon, that price is without vats?
ashen spindle
yes, unless amazon says they added it bc they know you are from somewhere else
but in general a price in the us = not what you actually end up spending for it
reef patrol
You've got shipping, VAT, Customs fees and having a hell of a time returning it for warranty xD
vagrant marsh
i had that 1 time when i bought an airsoft gun from china. it was a good price. it was. but when the delivery guy arrived at the door, i had to pay 140 euro on import fees
jesus. that gave me a scare
wheat plume
you said the prolite range isnt for gaming, yet their g-master range uses TN panels and those are for gaming 
wat
reef patrol
In Denmark they hold it in customs and send you a bill. No pay it gets returned xD
cursive summit
I like a lot of these offerings
reef tundra
15+import duties+21% vat
wheat plume
In Denmark they hold it in customs and send you a bill. No pay it gets returned xD
@reef patrol same in ireland but you can pay on delivery
cursive summit
@wheat plume ProLite is afaik for literally "Pro" and they are "Lite"
reef patrol
We used to have that, but it was too bothersome for postal people to send it back, so they just don't bother releasing them till you paid online π
cursive summit
So cheap lite monitors for home use
wheat plume
lite monitor?
cursive summit
Gmasters are gaming branded
All rounder for the price basically
That's how I understand it
Gmaster is more gaming oriented
reef tundra
Also in some countries an airsoft gun falls under the weapons category and you require special requirements to legally own them
wheat plume
but if they want gaming, why they choose TN panel?
wheat plume
ah
cursive summit
Freesync deals with tearing
wheat plume
but colors are bad ;-;
wheat plume
my friend has a TN panel and I can see the difference from my monitor and his
cursive summit
I like this one
32" quite big, IPS, FreeSync
QHD too
More pixels for more visual clarity
This looks like a good monitor
Not quite 144Hz
reef tundra
More pixels to render
reef tundra
It has the choochin power
wheat plume
I wanna get more games but I have no time to play anything ;-;
reef tundra
Then dont learn python
wheat plume
I must ;-;
reef tundra
its cringe anyways
cursive summit
I think I see a DP
reef tundra
also they still add the vga and dvi connectors?
cursive summit
If you are making a budget monitor who knows if some kind of russian with an Nvidia GT520 buys it
reef tundra
vga is analog shit.
ashen spindle
we don't like analog on this server 
reef tundra
Quite easy to make an controller for tho
cursive summit
Good times..
ashen spindle
at least get the memes correct smh
cant believe amd is launching that old card now
reef tundra
atleast vga is better than hdmi
cursive summit
@wheat plume Do you like this one? https://eu.aoc.com/en/monitors/q3279vwfd8
wheat plume
if (keyboard.switchType == "analog")
sysout("Wooting is bes");
else (keyboard.switchType == "digital")
sysout("Buy Wooting");
if (gay) echo "it's okay"
reef tundra
error at line 3: expected { got (
wheat plume
I nee dto think if I wanna have two 16:9 or 1 21:9 and 1 16:9
cursive summit
I don't see a big difference there
ashen spindle
unless you want something to put on both it wont matter
wheat plume
like I said, gaming on 21:9 is sweet <3
cursive summit
It looked like shit but Windows 10 does do well
wheat plume
and if the game doesnt like 21:9 I could move it to the 16:9 and play on that
cursive summit
@wheat plume You realize that a 32" will eclipse your poor ultrawide? 
reef patrol
also they still add the vga and dvi connectors?
@reef tundra Of course. You'd be surprised at how many offices use monitors with VGA today.
wheat plume
@wheat plume You realize that a 32" will eclipse your poor ultrawide?
@cursive summit 2big4desk
even as we speak, my right speaker is a little bit off the side of the desk
wheat plume
right...
reef tundra
get headphone and no need of speaker
wheat plume
I like having both
ashen spindle
use this link... https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07CG41Y8Z/
reef tundra
Gluttony
cursive summit
Is your LG VESA compatible? @wheat plume
wheat plume
uh... not quite sure
cursive summit
Might need something like this
cursive summit
Well that does sound like VESA
ashen spindle
thats why I'm telling you to sort your desk out first
reef tundra
just use a pocket dimention smh
wheat plume
LOL
reef tundra
s3x
cursive summit
Cause it'd be a lot easier to tell what's going on with your desk
wheat plume
sadly no, I dont have any toys ;-;
reef tundra
"sadly"
cursive summit
I was about to hit, but I decided not to
reef tundra
great quote
ivory geyser
Lana, you disappoint me
wheat plume
XDDD
cursive summit
Maybe in Ireland they don't use toys but mead tankards for their dirty stuff
wheat plume
uwu
cursive summit
Ireland just hits different
wheat plume
nah, we got a really nice toy store XD
cursive summit
Anyways are you able to take pics on the desk?
ivory geyser
With tankards!
cursive summit
Just snap it on phone and send it via DC?
wheat plume
desk
reef tundra
keyboard
cursive summit
ARE THOSE CLOUD ALPHAS?
wheat plume
YEP
cursive summit
I LOVE YOU
ashen spindle
yea move the pc down and a second monitor fits
cursive summit
They are great
cursive summit
Yeah the PC needs to go down
wheat plume
uwu
reef tundra
CAPSLOCK IS GAY. BE LIKE CAPSLOCK
wheat plume
Cloud Alpha II
cursive summit
Hm
I know Alpha S is just worse than Alpha's
Well kinda
Don't know much about Alpha II
wheat plume
yea move the pc down and a second monitor fits
@ashen spindle alongside the 21:9?
ashen spindle
yes
wheat plume
oh
wheat plume
Ill try to get something flat to put the PC on
but I may need an extension plug for the power cable cause its short AF
wheat plume
Razer Nommo Chroma
reef tundra
also why is that window floating. That seems like cringe
wheat plume
huh?
reef tundra
on the picturemachine
wheat plume
oh yeah, you use a tiling window manager :')
reef tundra
dynamic, it does both
cursive summit
What the fuck
wheat plume
ah like i3
cursive summit
Are they even good?
reef tundra
Razer is a green dye laundering scheme
cursive summit
Well I'll call them Nom nom from now on
wheat plume
same...
cursive summit
Razer nom noms
reef tundra
Straight razor time.
cursive summit
So yeah sort your desk a lil wee bit
wheat plume
Razer is the gayest pc peripheral brand, they made RGB and pink stuff
reef tundra
sort(&desk)
wheat plume
/s
cursive summit
And then I'd say get a good budget monitor that has probably at least 1440p
Jokes on you my GF is literally raping me out of my money
She wants full Razer pink set
wheat plume
Its so pretty tho....
cursive summit
I'm like "The Razer kitty is a rip off"
reef tundra
Pink is the manliest colour
wheat plume
I want the kity ears.....
cursive summit
"I can buy you the damn kitty ears later for cheaper"
wheat plume
:')
cursive summit
"BUT IT AIN'T PINK"
wheat plume
wow
cursive summit
I just had to give up
reef tundra
then just spraypaint it
cursive summit
I dunno what women are at this point
They just don't care about the functionality
I'd buy Sennheisers for the asking price of a pink Kraken Kitty
Nope, it's the fucking kitty ears that matter
Not the boomstick sound, but the RGB
What kind of monstrosity am I going to marry
wheat plume
I dont like RBG
cursive summit
Yeah RBG sounds gay
reef tundra
RGBW gang
cursive summit
RGB is nice tho
wheat plume
but pink is pretty on computer peripherals
wheat plume
2meirl4meirl
wheat plume
idk man, I like this for gaming
cursive summit
You said you wanted 2
cursive summit
I'd say try to invest a reasonable amount into a really good monitor
LG can be a secondary
Hell I used a 720p 15" TV as a secondary
It was good enough
Get a primary monitor that will run your games
reef tundra
get a printer tty gang
cursive summit
I think monitor buyers have gotten quite lucky as of late
wheat plume
pc in the floor
use 21:9 monitor as primary
have 16:9 monitor secondary
idk if that would fit on the desk with my speakers too
cursive summit
They will don't worry
wheat plume
the PC dont take that much space
cursive summit
A 32" ain't that much bigger than a 24"
ashen spindle
I recommend that and to make sure to get one that you can rotate, so you can put it in 9:16 basically lel, nice for long code pages
wheat plume
cursive summit
I checked don't worry
I literally went into a shop and checked out all monitor sizes
32" ain't that much bigger than a 25"
wheat plume
I recommend that and to make sure to get one that you can rotate, so you can put it in 9:16 basically lel, nice for long code pages
@ashen spindle yeah, thats true
also height adjustable if I can cause I need a phone box to prop this one up already
when I sit straight, I am at eye level with the top bezel
cursive summit
cursive summit
It's not that much bigger
wheat plume
true
wheat plume
how so?
cursive summit
So, do you expect an 80" TV to be 2x a 40"?
wheat plume
what actually is it?
cursive summit
It's fucking massive
wheat plume
O.o
wat
you can fit 4 of them into it??
oh, its double the diagonal length
I see
wait no??? naaNNNIIIIIIIIIII
reef tundra
What about tv 3?
wheat plume
memeber
cursive summit
That's one of the local TV networks
So I would need to turn on my TV1 for that
Can't afford TV2
wheat plume
what website is that?
reef tundra
You dare to cringe at my name? how dare thouh! i will ree in private now
wheat plume
the TV mom has in her house is 32 inches :')
but the bezels are THICC
so its massive
cursive summit
Monitors don't quite have that
I do vouch for a 32" 1440p display
If you don't want to shell out too much
If you could, make it at least 144Hz π
wheat plume
1080 is mostly fine for me :D but I wanna try a faster display rate
reef tundra
mine are 6.34mm
wheat plume
for most games, I can get more than 75FPS
cursive summit
@wheat plume 1440p is quite important
wheat plume
huh?
cursive summit
With my 1080p 23.5" I can see the pixels
And even the beauty of VA just kinda doesn't matter
wheat plume
so can I on my current monitor
cursive summit
Yeah it just kills the beauty for me
You try to look at a nice background
And it's just jagged edges
wheat plume
Ubuntu's font rendering is so gorgeous <3 its so smooth
cursive summit
I would defo go for a 1440p
reef tundra
yes 144hz is smooth
wheat plume
when I go back to windows 10 I can see the jagged font
reef tundra
all my monitors are 144 now
cursive summit
@wheat plume What would be the max amount you would be willing to spend? π
wheat plume
200
ashen spindle
then change the font if you dont like it...
wheat plume
actually, if im only getting one monitor, I can spend more
reef tundra
then disable anti-aliasing
cursive summit
@wheat plume How much would that be?
ashen spindle
dont spend more on just a secondary monitor
cursive summit
I don't see why you should replace a second monitor
wheat plume
then change the font if you dont like it...
@ashen spindle im using ubuntu font on windows 10 now xd
ashen spindle
that's just a waste
cursive summit
Your first one is already good
reef tundra
mine diamonds
cursive summit
25" is a great secondary
wheat plume
yeah, keep my cuirrent and get a second monitor
wheat plume
hm?
cursive summit
Why do aspect ratios matter?
wheat plume
just the visual difference
cursive summit
There is nothing odd about using a monitor as secondary regardless of aspect ratio
ashen spindle
keep your current one as the main monitor and save the money instead
just because you could spend more doesnt mean you should
reef tundra
my middle monitor is more expensive but has better colors, the outer two are cheaper 144 screens and the colour doesnt matter as its either out of focus or the middle monitor would take over
wheat plume
wait, Ill ned a DisplayPort cable too
wheat plume
ooh
wheat plume
my monitor only came with VGA cables
cursive summit
And an HDMI
wheat plume
ill have to connect one of them with displayport
and the other with HDMI cause my GPU has one of each
reef tundra
hmdi to dp adapter to spite hdmi
latency is a joke anyways
spiting hdmi is worth it
cursive summit
Holy
reef tundra
amen
reef tundra
Samsnug
crimson wigeon
Enjoy black smears
cursive summit
Yeah I enjoy them
wheat plume
PHOENIX!
reef tundra
dead pixels galore
ashen spindle
yeah I doubt you have a budget VA panel though
cursive summit
Not a single dead pixel on mine
@ashen spindle Samsung CFG73 / C24FG7
I think is the name
23.5 budget QLED VA
I got it for 210 euros
wheat plume
I just looked at my motherboard manual, its very proud of the "Premium Japanese Audio capacitors"
reef tundra
Depends on the user
cursive summit
Well I looked through most sub-200$ monitors on amazon.de right now
And I found a few really cool options
reef tundra
that a new cs map de-dust 2 begone?
wheat plume
so 24" would fit beside my monitor
wheat plume
cursive summit
A really nice looking budget 24"
And a heavily (luckily) discounted 27" that seems the best
@wheat plume Which one you pick lass?
reef tundra
The free one
cursive summit
I wish
wheat plume
uh, not sure... I would have to make sure they both fit on the desk first
reef tundra
no wish scam
wheat plume
Doubt it, the only space is where my computer currently is cause the rest is taken by the monitor and two speakers
wheat plume
well, I can angle it
wheat plume
idk, I need a tape measure
reef tundra
Pocket dimentions will fit that
cursive summit
Who doesn't have a tape measure??
wheat plume
me.. xd
reef tundra
me
reef tundra
have 2 digit caliper
wheat plume
i do software, not hardware :')
reef tundra
and 2 pcb rulers
ashen spindle
you dont need a tape measure at all...
reef tundra
I can do math
ashen spindle
you know the dimension of your monitor
reef tundra
so 30 cm is all i need
ashen spindle
just hold your arm against it and you can do it by accurate approximation
cursive summit
What if you are a midget?
reef tundra
then more accuracy
cursive summit
Great observation
ashen spindle
then you dont use the arm but a book or literally anything
wheat plume
its up the the sleev of my tshirt xd
the free space beside it just about reaches my elbow
wheat plume
idfk
cursive summit
Bruh
reef tundra
use a 1 to 100 random number generator. just 1/100 chance of being right
cursive summit
Size in general?
wheat plume
ooof
reef tundra
know every length of your body with 2 digits of accuracy
cursive summit
Well that's how I do things
reef tundra
Become a human ruler
cursive summit
I'm anywhere from 0.1" where it matters to 100" where it doesn't matter
wheat plume
"Lemme be your ruler"
Lourde
cursive summit
It's Lorde
wheat plume
oooh
reef tundra
Lard
wheat plume
FFS
cursive summit
Lewde
wheat plume
UwU
reef tundra
whats this
cursive summit
Anyways if it's up your elbow
wheat plume
almost
cursive summit
That's probably like 30-40cms?
wheat plume
maybe
reef tundra
then hit your nerve really hard and you will not care anymore about the sizing while swearing to yourself
ashen spindle
why are you making this so complicated?...
reef tundra
solved
cursive summit
Life's more fun as a challenge
ashen spindle
yes
ashen spindle
very likely to be the better choice for your
pale sigil
im hoping to get it at launch
cursive summit
Anyways
@wheat plume Can't go better than this
LG 27" IPS
144Hz refresh
Freesync
ashen spindle
meanwhile some stupid shit on twitter
cursive summit
There's something wrong going with OP stuff?
wheat plume
only Minecraft and Distance run more than 144HZ
ashen spindle
like if you buy the card in a year why are you not asking int ayear
wheat plume
well....Minecraft without shaders
cursive summit
@wheat plume Even if your panel is too fast it doesn't hurt you
wheat plume
it does, itll look laggy
zenith sonnet
@cursive summit 27GL850 is the better model
wheat plume
and feel laggy
cursive summit
You know you can just.. choose the refresh rate in most monitors?
You can just pick if you want the full 144Hz or lower?
wheat plume
I can feel the difference between 59 and 60HZ in minecraft
but not too much in other games
wheat plume
I like this monitor
zenith sonnet
So it has a trash panel? Knew something was wrong with it, just didn't remember what
cursive summit
I genuinely like this one
It seems to swivel
Looks like height adjustable as well
zenith sonnet
It is
cursive summit
It actually seems better than mine
IPS as well
Unlike my QLED VA
Not curved though so ha
wheat plume
maybe 75Hz might be good
pale sigil
im really hoping benchmarks go up before sale day
but tbh i dont expect huge stock issues
wheat plume
cause idc about having 60 currently , its smooth enough for me
pale sigil
for so long
ashen spindle
how about you stop looking at literally anything and figure out how to move your pc down on the floor first, you can figure out whats available in ireland afterwards
cursive summit
Dunno you can just pick and choose
cursive summit
I checked out that one
reef tundra
vga is not even 60hz at some resolutions
pale sigil
@ashen spindle So you're gonna go with the new amd gpus?
ashen spindle
I'll wait for AiB review and get one unless something bad appears
pale sigil
Ye i think i will too.
idk
im not in a rush but it would be nice to get it done with
im getting sick of getting 80 frames π¦
Also so basically AMD raytrace works with nvidia raytracing?
ashen spindle
if raytracing is done it can be done generally via microsofts DXR API, or with RTX which is basically a layer above DXR
so anything that runs just via DXR will work just fine on amd
or whenever someone does a vulkan implementation
ashen spindle
it does, if it uses DXR
idk what they use
maybe this is better to explain:
they all use DXR, but some used a RTX plugin to do it instead of doing it alone, if they did not do it alone they need to add extra support
pale sigil
So many choices 
reef patrol
pale sigil
Itβs a little stressful
ashen spindle
No itβs not
pale sigil
I wanna do this right, u donβt want to mess up and I need every penny well spent
I donβt wanna listen to people tell me donβt do it youβre stupid etc
Because they wanna scrape bare min price for performance
ashen spindle
Because you should wait for reviews so that will limit viable choices down quite a lot
No point thinking about specifics now
pale sigil
In the market everything is awful atm
So itβs not always as simple as waiting till the next batch
All the places here still havenβt opened up ore orders again as they are still fullinijg the others
They are like 30+ people behind on every single gpu
ashen spindle
Sure, but even chaotic stock doesnβt matter for now bc we donβt know how much AiB will make it better or not
pale sigil
I meant more cpu when I said that tbh
ashen spindle
@reef patrol you still in line Position 800? :p
reef patrol
Still don't have my card if that's what you're asking. π
pale sigil
I meant batches not people sorry
reef patrol
Guess my spot might move up if people start cancelling orders in droves.
ashen spindle
:p
reef patrol
Not in a rush to cancel my order till AMD reviews land.
I have cancelled my water block though. Just in case.
Cheaper to pay for shipping twice from EK than return the block in case I need a different one.
ashen spindle
Ah was going to say, idk how water block economy look in team red
pale sigil
Scan support said they only get 10 cards at a time
I was hoping to get my shit by Nov 9th but it ainβt happening
XD
crisp granite
wheat plume
:PP
reef patrol
better hardware = faster
@ashen spindle More powerful than the most expensive Apple option. That's the takeaway π
ashen spindle
Yup
wet solstice
What if the better hardware has awful drivers
reef patrol
Eh?
reef tundra
you can patch drivers, but hard to change the hardware
ashen spindle
that is a valid point in a case of amd vs nvidia, not in 3ghz vs 5ghz of the same chip
wet solstice
Just being theoretical
reef tundra
Practical doesnt always follow Theory
wet solstice
Well yeah it clearly would never apply in real life, just being technical
reef tundra
you are adicted to the 'Home & Lock Screen' ngl
wheat plume
I tell ye
That home and lock screen app is heavily addictive
I too have sunk far too many hours into it
reef tundra
tell me about it, every day bro
wheat plume
Discord...... You multiplying again ...
reef tundra
analog aspen
cursive summit
Yes
halcyon moss
.. facebook?
cursive summit
Also it's not a review
You can't review something that hasn't launched yet
More like a preview
ashen spindle
yeah I'm not clicking ... facebook for a youtube video?
cursive summit
I'm not clicking anything Facebook
Zuckerturd has been really annoying as of lately
reef patrol
Swell... the last piece of my Mac Classic puzzle is stuck in the Netherlands.
reef tundra
Facebook would like to sample your dna to make sure the inactive account is you
crimson wigeon
Yes Master Zuck, I'll give you everything about me
reef tundra
010101001010101010101010101010101010010001010100101010101001010
dont mind my random 0 and 1 spam. Just uploading the new zucc ai
honest jolt
translation: "TΒͺΒͺΒͺΒ€TΒͺ"
reef tundra
taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
strangely coherent for just typing 0 and 1 randomly
mmmmm, coincidence?
reef patrol
Heh - Apparently the Facebook account mandatory requirement is so unpopular people are working hard on a jailbreak xD
What a time to be alive. Jailbroken VR headsets.
reef tundra
It so successfull people are trying to escape it
pale sigil
its quite shit
fbook doing that
i dont have an fbook account
but i can still use my oculus account it seems
for a while at least
reef tundra
Forcing facebook accounts over the occulus account is such a success. People love the ease of use the marketing claimed
it just works
ashen spindle
so, looks like 3070 is also already out of stock and no AiB card actually launched at MSRP
reef tundra
lmao, really?
crimson wigeon
What a shocker
ashen spindle
nvidias counter to amd's jebait, can't be forced into lower MSRP if you just dont sell anything at MSRP :p
ashen spindle
meanwhile a whole 5+ months before release, intel is desperate to tell people they have something too, a week before zen3 launch https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1321814533388726277
old marlin
euro prices someone could get before it was sold out
crisp granite
now jackasses are trying to flip them for $1500 CAD
old marlin
744 euros MSRP
crisp granite
In Canada
they were all selling for $660 to $750
that's MSRP here
but those euro prices are absurd
I feel bad for you guys
ashen spindle
there was not a single one at msrp in any store here from what I could find
or rather, any msrp was higher than 499
ashen spindle
was to be expected tbh
crisp granite
yeah
hopefully they can get supply up fast
newegg said they had 1 card for every 10 people
at a very conservative estimate
so, clearly a flop of a launch
ashen spindle
wouldnt say its a flop, they sold out everything
crisp granite
but supply was way too low
ashen spindle
sure but we can now say for sure it was because nvidia wanted to get out before amd
so they traded yelling first for availability
crisp granite
that's stupid
they have to have the product ready a few months before they hit shelves anyway
ashen spindle
yea its stupid for consumers, not for the company
crisp granite
right
they didn't fill demand but sold everything they had
so they made boatloads
ashen spindle
imagine the mindshare if we had gotten the 6800Xt and 6800 announcement today, so they could beat nvidia easily and even keep the 6900XT a secret for a bit, then launch that one just before nvidia
they could announce ampere and not even mention amd once, that would've been impossible if there was a product out that that would easily beat your previous flagship
I'm loving that rocket lake is already a meme half a year before its out
misty pier
damn scalpers
fickle ore
ashen spindle
sam, rage, whats next, mad max? :p
crisp granite
Mad Max 
zenith sonnet
Will there be preorders for the 5000 series CPUs?
ashen spindle
tbf If I had time I would've probably tried to buy and scalp an RTX card, easy money with so little stock lel
insane how nvidia rushed it
misty saffron
crimson wigeon
gamers who see slightly higher framerates on Intel CPUs
ashen spindle
8 cores bc 8 cores use the same TDP as 10 cores of comet lake
and they cant make another socket just to increase TDP lel
ashen spindle
dont worry, next gen will have more!!!
it will have up to 8+8 
all hail big.Shittle
wheat plume
oh my
wheat plume
yeah....
reef tundra
doesnt your pacman provide the driver?
wheat plume
LOTS of new game support
doesnt your pacman provide the driver?
@reef tundra is on windows rn
reef tundra
oh no
wheat plume
I remember when this stalking was limited to microsoft apps -.- now they cans talk Firefox too
reef tundra
windows has kernel-space access as it is the kernel
wheat plume
yeh......
reef tundra
and windows makes it hard to get rid of the tracking. which is near impossible to fully remove without severe comprimises
crimson wigeon
That's too complicated
fair gull
oh noe
reef tundra
that wont disable all the tracking
fair gull
oh ure one of the tinfoil hat people
crisp granite
fair gull
the only thing i could think of u cant fully disable is diagnostic logs
reef tundra
nah, if it aint tracking me directly it will track me through my friends and family.
reef tundra
firewall all ip's to 0:0:0:0
reef tundra
They track people to find the secret krabby patty recipe
wheat plume
it duplicated
reef tundra
typical shenanigans
fair gull
i think u started it twice
wheat plume
unless it autoruns after download I only clicked it once
fair gull
that wouldnt even start it
unless u mean in the browser
where a single click opens it
reef tundra
its double click in windows (file manager)
wheat plume
ye
fair gull
and depending on if u click it during download it might queue the open command
wheat plume
ohhh
reef tundra
yea, for me that never works tho
crimson wigeon
pros use single click mode
wheat plume
ew
reef tundra
it downloads fine, just forgets to auto-start them
reef patrol
Excuse you. My desktop is not a website π
fair gull
excuse me mine is
i wish we could still set webpages as desktop background
like in ye olden days
reef patrol
Oh god yes. I remember that π
wheat plume
you can with wallpaper engine
fair gull
not a win feature
reef tundra
windows vista time
fair gull
it was a windows feature once
reef patrol
Had to uninstall engine. It eats up like 30% GPU at times π
crimson wigeon
BuT uNuSeD gPu Is WaStEd GpU
reef patrol
WHILE gaming xD
reef tundra
idling threads are less energy taxing than working threads
fair gull
bUt UwUsEd GpU iS wAsTeD gPu
wheat plume
but I downloaded the 64bit version.... :L
reef tundra
DonT FeEd yOuR GpU BOozE.
fair gull
iirc the only way to install 64bit is to use the weird download tool of theirs
and even then 32bit is better supported by addons
due to its long existence
reef tundra
but 32 bit cringe
fair gull
its a lie my gril
wheat plume
;-;
reef tundra
The globalists at microsoft are at at it again lying about them bits! I will nibble them away!
fair gull
u wont notice any difference anyway between 32bit and 64bit office
fair gull
have fun waiting
wheat plume
been nearly 10 minutes
crimson wigeon
Yes because it's downloading god knows how much stuff
fair gull
round 3gb of data
wheat plume
last time I did this, I had a progress bar
fair gull
thats when u download the iso
crimson wigeon
And because everyone is expected to have a great internet connection nowadays they didn't even bother adding some kind of indicator for that
fair gull
u downloaded the downloader
reef tundra
to download the half-downloaded product with will download the rest
fair gull
this is pmuch what ur office is doing rn
this is the corporate distrib tool for office
wheat plume
hmmmm
fair gull
fair gull
welcome to corporate mircosoft
reef tundra
give me money, spongebob
wheat plume
we're getting things ready
fair gull
ya just very slowly
wheat plume
yeah -.- thats the numbr 1 rule of windows
reef tundra
like the missing 32 bits
wheat plume
it takes fucking forever
reef tundra
no, it takes a moment in windows timespace
fair gull
u can share downloaded updates in the local network
reef tundra
download linux? one usb can do it all.
wheat plume
:P already have Ubuntu on USB
fair gull
wheat plume
and Windows 1904
fair gull
so
reef tundra
i have an artix usb lying around
wheat plume
nah, updates dont take too long
wheat plume
should I reboot and run this launcher again?
reef tundra
yes
fair gull
@wheat plume u realize office isnt an update
wheat plume
cause its still on thje orange screen
fair gull
but 3-4GB of data
reef tundra
windows likes to reboot
fair gull
thats like 60% of a windows install iso
pale sigil
When i used to install office 4x at once on 4 different laptops at work
over 8mb/s
omfg
pale sigil
in4 offline installer
wheat plume
oh...something is happening but the other screen is still there
reef tundra
windows <3 reboot
wheat plume
reef tundra
no terminal for you
wheat plume
welp ;-;
reef tundra
cmd or powershell
reef tundra
powershell is annoying with its security, tho. for me
fair gull
powershell is rather nice tho
wheat plume
wheat plume
cna do CMD and Linux too
wheat plume
now im happy <3 a proper media player
reef tundra
tmux hype
crimson wigeon
Yeah but new terminal has retro effect what's not to like
fair gull
na sadly they turned it to shit
wmp was nice in win7
but in win10 it cant even play dvds
wheat plume
tt
fair gull
i use aimp and mpchc
ashen spindle
mpc-hc still runs for me
fair gull
mainly use aimp and my ytmusic app tho cause discord rpc integration
fair gull
oh and aimp has this dope library feature where i can see my albums and their covers and shit which is nice since i usually do a ton of mp3tag work
ashen spindle
I just downloaded mpc bc I didnt know of vlc and had no issues so far
doubt either does much more than the other
crimson wigeon
VLC has always been a bit scuffed for me
fair gull
to me vlc is just a traffic cone u can puke into
crimson wigeon
VLC 4 also has a new interface coming that's utter trash so why even bother with it anymore
wheat plume
fair gull
???
fair gull
callum u dont take ur entire pc setup with u everywhere u go?
fair gull
id say my gaming pc is very mobile
pale sigil
My dream build is ITX tho 
reef tundra
like mine? yay
wheat plume
cursive summit
I was about to say that it looked in pictures like a full ATX
cursive summit
But I stand corrected
wheat plume
yeh its massive
wheat plume
it says it has 4 2.5" drive mounts, ive only seen two so far
where tf are the other ones?
reef tundra
could be in the 3.5" spots
cursive summit
Fuck's a 2.5" drive?
wheat plume
I regret not getting a modular PSU
cursive summit
The SSD ones?
wheat plume
ye
cursive summit
So 3.5 is your typical HDD?
wheat plume
I think so
cursive summit
Sometimes 2.5" drives do go behind the case
reef tundra
the big platter bois
cursive summit
I have seen that happening at least
pale sigil
2.5" is SSD/Small HDD
wheat plume
my second SSD is on the side behind the motherboard plate, thats where two mounts are
pale sigil
Imagine 3.5" in 2020 
reef tundra
m.2 is a stick you stick into the mobo
wheat plume
NVME also
pale sigil
m2
reef tundra
nvme is the successor of sata
pale sigil
its a literal stick
pale sigil
TRUE
reef tundra
m.2 is technically only the physical dimentions
cursive summit
If SATA was any more relevant nowadays it would be at least SATA4 12 gbps
reef tundra
hard to beat if you have direct pcie access
pale sigil
Well
ashen spindle
just get a pcie card for more m2 slots
cursive summit
Though if you just plug some extender into the x4 slot then yeah
reef tundra
pcie is end-to-end so need some bridge controller to spit that up(and add latency, slowdown, abitration)
cursive summit
You have any clue how expensive those are? π
reef tundra
1k per piece?
cursive summit
I got my Samsung 1TB SATA for 100 quid
pale sigil
if you're wanting storage etc im just saying
cursive summit
So make that M.2 and 2TB with NVMe, at least 300$
pale sigil
I got my nvme 1tb for 104 quid
reef tundra
for storage tape is the way
pale sigil
Well yes but
cursive summit
Afaik the the cost/TB curve is heavily disproportional
pale sigil
If you're considering nvme then i think money isn't a huge issue maybe
cursive summit
The more space, the a lot higher the price
reef tundra
more archival due to the slow transfer speeds
reef tundra
10 years ago an ssd would be worth your left kidney
fair gull
i wont ever get rid of hdds
cursive summit
I'll sell you my IDE 120GB drive