🔌│tech

[urban lynx]

i know you may not agree with liking such, but saying "weeb shit" seems quite offensive to me.

[crisp granite]

better?

[urban lynx]

also no, i watched black clover, and it was kind of okay, but kinda didnt like to continue watching that

if you're asking if I'm satisfied: No. I'm a woman. I'm never satisfied.

[crisp granite]

bruh

every female is like that

and it kills me

is "good" enough for you?

[old marlin]

Black clover

More like AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[ashen spindle]

accurate

anyway

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-allegedly-cancels-geforce-rtx-3080-20gb-and-rtx-3070-16gb

rip

[true quest]

gg

[crisp granite]

still getting an 8gb 3070

[urban lynx]

black clover seemed interesting, but i dunno.
didnt like it i guess.

[crisp granite]

8gb is plenty

for 1080p, at least

[ashen spindle]

My two guesses: either gddr6x shortage and they need to make the normal variants first

or because they save these version for a 7nm refresh next year or something in that area

[crisp granite]

yeah

makes sense

[urban lynx]

btw i apologise for my autism to cause me to sometimes not being easily able to let go a topic in a conversation.
it trips me over on occasion.
sorry!

[crisp granite]

?

no need to apologize

[ashen spindle]

don't think that has been an issue here, you're good

[crisp granite]

you've done nothing wrong

[misty saffron]

don’t apologize for something beyond your control

[urban lynx]

must... apologize... to alleviate... bad... feels

[fair gull]

sorry that u feel bad

[cursive summit]

The anime I understand why people don't like it

The voice actor of Asta at first was hard to listen to

But now it's just fine, he even sings

[fair gull]

im also hard when listening to asta

[misty saffron]

[cursive summit]

I think rn the main problem is the studio itself, there are problems with the animation

The anime and especially the manga are doing bits

[ashen spindle]

idk seemed accurate, a overblown more annoying version of naruto, was the first series I dropped after I was in for more than like 20 chapters

[cursive summit]

Manga's just out of this world in terms of good

If you endure past first 20 eps, it will get better

Animation and voices alike

Story is also great

Dunno rn we have the first actual filler saga

And it's quite alright

[ashen spindle]

I read it up till like some chapters after they started fighting the other countries

[urban lynx]

i watched the first "arc" of naruto tbf. where they fought these two baddies on this big long bridge or something

[misty saffron]

is that normal in anime? voice actors can be incompetent until some episode?

[cursive summit]

@ashen spindle Would that be Diamond or Spade Kingdom?

Diamond Kingdom is quite early

Rn is the spicy af Spade Kingdom

[ashen spindle]

idk they dropped into the enemy force after meeting this water thing when they all went into the other country and got tested

as rank0 or so

dont remember

[cursive summit]

That's heart kingdom

That's spade kingdom ark

So Chapter ~200 or so

[ashen spindle]

ye

sounds accurate

[cursive summit]

Didn't interest you?

[ashen spindle]

I wanted it to be good bc I'm in dire need of watching/reading some good magic related stuff but I just couldnt keep going

[cursive summit]

You want good magic stuff?

[fair gull]

@ashen spindle mahouka koukou no rettousei

[cursive summit]

Mahōutsukai no Yome was the first anime series I actually watched

[ashen spindle]

watched it, seaons 2 just started recently

[fair gull]

read the mango

[ashen spindle]

I thought it's a LN adaptation?

[cursive summit]

If you never seen Mahōusukai no Yome, you have to

It's quite amazing

[fair gull]

ps theres a manga adaptation of the ln

[urban lynx]

first anime i watched was either Hellsing Ultimate, or Elfenlied.

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/AX4hq-_EnbT.png

[urban lynx]

chances are Black Lagoon was my first or second are also there. i only remember those three being my first three animes. lol

ah, proxer.

[ashen spindle]

ok let me be more clear, I mostly want magic so I watch something cool and fancy and magic is more colorful than slice of life, compared to like wanting to play a game for sicks graphics and ignore shit storylines

bonus points if the rest is good

[fair gull]

u mean like overlord?

[ashen spindle]

I mean that's also a good comedy but otherwise yes

[urban lynx]

overlord. it kinda disappointed me with season 2 and 3

[ashen spindle]

yeah they rushed the animation, but they are taking longer on season 4 bc of that feedback

[urban lynx]

i mean. at some point i just read the LN, lol

[fair gull]

how bout magi for magic

[ashen spindle]

well for overlord I did the same, even have the physical books lol

[fair gull]

have never finished magi myself

[urban lynx]

i think i watched 2 episodes of magi?

[ashen spindle]

the labyrint one? thats on my list

[fair gull]

or heck even madoka

or fairy fail

[ashen spindle]

done with FT and madoka seemed to lack a bit so I didnt start it

[urban lynx]

another anime i kind of enjoyed was Log Horizon.
even though the second season was slightly weaker than the first, it was still rather good.
here is hoping for season 3. lol

[fair gull]

lh had a nice approach to the whole isekai theme

and mc is smort

[ashen spindle]

eh maybe, mostly wrote it off bc it seemed like yet another school version where it's lots about that and not much about the actual magic

[ivory geyser]

Overlord > Log Horizon :P

[ashen spindle]

I should probably make a list of what I watched at some point to make it easier

[misty saffron]

weebs

[ashen spindle]

yea disgusting

[urban lynx]

tbf, log horizon and overlord shouldnt be compared.
only similarities is they both are basically one of these full vr games...

and i like both

i do not like sao.

[ivory geyser]

Still tho

Code Geass > All :P

[zenith sonnet]

AMD clocks this gen going brrrrrr

GPUs > 2.5 GHz

[crisp granite]

them clocks

[urban lynx]

i will never consider an anime to be "the best"

[ivory geyser]

That is because you havent seen Code Geass.

[urban lynx]

cause fuck no, there is no way. tastes vary wildly

i seen code geass.

[ivory geyser]

Then may the god have mercy of your soul

[ashen spindle]

there is no best, just death note

[ivory geyser]

Tbh, Death Note sux after L dies

It is absolute top tier before tho

[ashen spindle]

ye bc it ends there

[urban lynx]

trying my best to not be mad and bitching at you

also yeah. first half od death note was great. second half was terrible

[ivory geyser]

In that case you get extra points for not falling for my bait!

[crisp granite]

I remember being on someone's death note

[ashen spindle]

second half is just imagination, we all just fell victim to mass hypnosis there

[ivory geyser]

Prob mine , I have a lot of people in mine. @crisp granite

[crisp granite]

cool

[thick elk]

Still waiting for big navi + 1 / 2 months

[crisp granite]

put mine at the top

[ashen spindle]

in that regard the rushed nvidia launch is nice, couple less people I will need to compete with to get an amd card :p

[urban lynx]

i only know these anime categories:

on the list.
sounds familiar.
i like watching.
i actually remembered i watched this.
i actually admit to watching and liking this.

[ashen spindle]

@reef patrol I stay corrected, before he retired he started one more big drama

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

what a dunce

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/AzorFrank/status/1318988512235053060 3090 for 8k gaming so amd for 8k ultrawide? 👀

Frank Azor (@AzorFrank)

Having some fun today with @sherkelman playing some Borderlands 3 on the largest curved screen I've ever seen. I need one of these at home for Squadrons, Flight Sim, who am I kidding... for everything!

Likes

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Twitter

[cursive summit]

Is 8K Ultrawide = 16K "eye like" resolution?

[ashen spindle]

idk I just put that word there bc it's clearly not a 16:9 they use lmao

[zenith sonnet]

That distortion though

Nobody will unironically use that

[reef patrol]

Its almost as if it's a filming screen or something.

[old marlin]

works well from one point

so if they focus it on his head it looks right for him

that only works with UE4 though

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/-v4X-J6W4KY

DAFUQ is this nonsense?

this system is so flawed you can unlock ANYONES password with it :/

[ashen spindle]

you can also easily get around windows password with the same method since like win xp

[wheat plume]

:')

[ashen spindle]

(same method since then, idk what the video does)

and for once I agree with MS calling it not a bug

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/-v4X-J6W4KY?t=133 here is where the problem begins

[fair gull]

i mean

win10 ms accounts are not easily removed

altho i heard konboot got a new paid version that can remove even those passwords

[wheat plume]

welp

[ashen spindle]

im talking about replacing the osk with cmd

[wheat plume]

there is a way to change the user password without needing to login on Linux, Ive done it before

[fair gull]

doesnt work for msaccounts

[ashen spindle]

oh really

huh

can you not change your MS account password that way?

[fair gull]

not even recovery disks work with msaccounts

msaccount pw can only be changed on the website

and the systems needs internet to even know about it

[ashen spindle]

makes sense I guess

anyway before that the argument was, if you already have physical access, no point in having the win account pw as the security feature

[fair gull]

depends

if u have a tpm

and bitlocker encrypted drive

its not as easy

and takes some time

even though bitlocker is compromised (i think)

[ashen spindle]

even then, no point in making it so the attacker needs to take out the drive and does stuff if he has it already

and only make it harder for you to get back in

if you are aware enough of securing stuff you should be aware on how to do it properly

[fair gull]

ya but even if the attacker has my drive

he needs to get in without my pc being lit on fire

[ashen spindle]

sure but again I dont see how the account PW should be the barrier there

[fair gull]

cause bitlocker doesnt unencrypt the drive unless u log into the account

so no changing the cmd

[ashen spindle]

I think we argue for the same thing

im saying if you have it so the osk can be switched with cmd, you probably run greater risks of losing data already

[fair gull]

oh ya

but theres an easy fix

store everything on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE4Wn0cjrO4

[ashen spindle]

perfect

[fair gull]

"regenrative redundancy and negative boot times"

[ashen spindle]

I like how they mention storage attached network solutions

hate those

[fair gull]

ya

[cursive summit]

Uhh

My PC just crashed out of nowhere

[reef patrol]

Your CPU dead. Better send it to me for recycling.

[ashen spindle]

hope you could save it all to your speichergurke before it crashed

[fair gull]

even after losing 99% of the cucumber we can still use a pencil to point at cucumber seeds thanks to our super secret **** technology

[cursive summit]

But my 3600 😄

[wheat plume]

how long you have it?

[cursive summit]

Fuck's a "speichergurke"

[wheat plume]

^^

[fair gull]

no it doesnt

[cursive summit]

A year I think

[fair gull]

thats the point

[wheat plume]

o

[cursive summit]

I believe I got it 2019 January

Well close to 2 years

Wait or was it this January?

[fair gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDfcwuP1VUY

[cursive summit]

I think it was this January

So yeah close to a year

[ashen spindle]

you're lucky, my cpu died after less than a month

[cursive summit]

Dunno my CPU is doing fine

[ashen spindle]

so I;d say you got a good deal and I'd gladly take the paperweight from you for free

[cursive summit]

The only concerning thing is the AMD stock cooler and blower RX 5700

[wheat plume]

what CPUs you all getting that break within a month?

[ashen spindle]

8600k

[cursive summit]

FX-8350 on 9GHz OC

[fair gull]

my cpu is fine

[wheat plume]

9?????!!

[ashen spindle]

got a new one that OC'd better so I think I actually got lucky that it died lul

[wheat plume]

how TF does anything run at 9GHz????

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-jk-penguin-laugh-its-was-a-joke-gif-14574338

[ashen spindle]

with a lot of legs

[cursive summit]

It wasn't a joke

[wheat plume]

.....

[reef patrol]

That's not 9Ghz.

[wheat plume]

wat

[reef patrol]

So hah.

[cursive summit]

You can actually OC bulldozer ridiculously well

[pale sigil]

Rounded up I guess

And ye bulldozer is insane for oc

My 8350 still lives on in my friends system haha

[cursive summit]

I guess you can say it "wrecks" the OC charts

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-steve-carell-laugh-good-one-banana-gif-4958026

[pale sigil]

Wrecks your user experience too

[cursive summit]

I actually want a space heater tyvm

[pale sigil]

Then go intel

[ashen spindle]

~~fermi ~~ ampere is out of stock sadly

[pale sigil]

Lol I’ll probably have a 5800x sat on my desk

2 months before I can even use it

[fair gull]

isnt that ~8.8ghz from what 2013

[ashen spindle]

at that point you then might as well wait before you get it and get a 5600x or smth like that

[cursive summit]

Reading 9 year old comments

These haven't aged well

[urban lynx]

is my 3900x still valid?

[ashen spindle]

you need to send it to me so I can validate it

[pale sigil]

No

[ashen spindle]

[pale sigil]

Ofc not

So throw it my way

I’ll dispose of it for you

[urban lynx]

ah great, space to get a new gen cpu then

[pale sigil]

if you can

[urban lynx]

insert picture of fancy box of some new gen cpu box on my desk here that totally isnt photoshopped

[ashen spindle]

https://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/image/dr000/auc0507/users/55f3a412fdf72ae23fbb575ae0d02da712f9d078/i-img640x480-1562150296awhocy11407.jpg

[urban lynx]

sorry. i think quinty is beating us speedwise here

[ashen spindle]

it has Advanced Cache

[cursive summit]

Meaning, "old" and "aged"

L2 cache hasn't been getting as much love as L3 now has it 🤔

Does L1 cache even exist anymore?

[ashen spindle]

????? yes

[fair gull]

na

got replaced

[cursive summit]

Doesn't Infinity Fabric do the same?

[fair gull]

now uses IDE drives

for more cache

[cursive summit]

Bruh

I still have those fucking drives

120GB

[fair gull]

didnt u see the IDE port on ur new amd cpu?

[ashen spindle]

no, infinity cache only allows it for them to add a micro-sized floppy disk to the L1 cache to increase it

[cursive summit]

That's where I was supposed to plug those "Power+-" connectors?

Yeah I just crammed it in there

Got extra 120GB of space

At the cost of the motherboard

But it's worth it

[ashen spindle]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcUBGxNVMAAT_Wu.jpg this is what they add to the cpus with infinity fabric

[wheat plume]

they all look too freaking similar -.-

[ashen spindle]

as if an android generation would look much different

[thick elk]

phones have pretty much stabilized for a while now.1

[ashen spindle]

?

[wheat plume]

I love the timers he adds

so you can skip parts you dont wanna watch

[ashen spindle]

... so like the feature youtube has build in for weeks/months now so you can see it in the timeline?

[reef patrol]

Malleable Keyboard Hard Dingo.

[wheat plume]

sounds like the name of a gifcat video

[ashen spindle]

oh thats the phone guy who thought the 1k apple stand was a valid price

I knew the name was familiar

[crisp granite]

wait

someone thought the apple "pro" stand was a well priced piece?

[ashen spindle]

ye its that mk guy

[crisp granite]

holy shit

he needs his head examined

[ashen spindle]

ye I only sometimes see his videos in my feed and its always about phone, mostly apple it seems

then I saw that opinion of his and I made sure to never watch a video lmao

dont know anything else about the guy

[cursive summit]

I know some Youtubers who dedicate their life to praising Apple

That Apple cash must really be throbbing

I see no reason to ever use an Apple device

[ashen spindle]

have you tried one

[true quest]

yes

[chrome estuary]

I mean I own an ipad pro, it's rather nice ngl

[wheat plume]

the ipads are nice

iPadOS is what iOS should be tbh

[honest jolt]

yeah, they are the last truly 'good' tablets. At thats how it seems like to me. (the bazillion surface variants excluded, if you think of them as 'tablets')

[wheat plume]

They are tablets only in terms of physical form

Actually
Having a computer in that form factor is really handy in many situations
For artists who draw digitally and also note takers and people who use it for meetings

[honest jolt]

you're right, didn't want to talk bad about them. They have a great build quality and are very portable. I would have one, weren't it for me already being in the 'apple cosmos. Would even be cheaper then my current 'university setup' (ipad + laptop)

[wheat plume]

Soooo
I can transfer stuff from windows to linux via being able to browser my windows install from linux
But not the other way around

Anyway to make windows be able to browse my linux drive?

[reef patrol]

Not without tools and drivers.

And they are iirc fairly unstable.

http://www.ext2fsd.com/

This works but expect it to randomly crash if you transfer stuff.

I've used it a few times to save data from NAS

[wheat plume]

Hmm
I think I may know why my linux install can browse the windows drive

Cause the bootloader is on the linux drive and it has to mount the windows drive for grub to let me choose if I want linux or windows at bootup

[cobalt plaza]

What do you guys think of high refresh rates (120hz or more) on monitors? Do you think it's an underrated or overrated feature?

[cobalt plaza]

Even in non-gaming daily uses such as browsing, content-making or pretty much anything I think 120hz over 60 is a great different. You have more control over the cursor as it is smoother and it's overall more pleasant. I also see a clear difference between 120hz and 240hz.
My top one being a 4k 120hz one (can also be 8k 60hz) and the bottom one 240hz.

[chrome estuary]

I just spent literally the last 9 hours using a 144hz monitor against my 60 and tbh... It's barely noticeable to me

Sure its there but it's also the kind of feeling like owning a tesla

Sure it's nice but... So?

[true quest]

once i noticed the jump in smoothness, i promised myself i would never return

[misty saffron]

human eye can’t see more than 24 fps

[cobalt plaza]

yes it's there, and it's there for a couple years

[cobalt plaza]

yea lol

[urban lynx]

tbh i dont notice much difference between my old near 60hz monitor and my now new 144hz one...
what i notice is the nearly doubled resolution though

[misty pier]

not too much of a difference honestly

just a lil bit smoother than the regular 75hz panels I'm used to

[harsh jay]

For many people, it's not the switch that shocks them

It's going back

[true quest]

it was both for me

[harsh jay]

I'm waiting on a good sale on an lg27gn850 or a Dell 2721dgf to upgrade from my 24in 60hz monitor to 144+

[old marlin]

https://www.notebookcheck.com/Verkaufsstopp-fuer-Lenovo-Produkte-in-Deutschland-Nokia-erwirkt-einstweilige-Verfuegung.498876.0.html

[zenith sonnet]

@cobalt plaza High refresh rate is definitely underrated

[old marlin]

lenovo doesn't sell shit in germany for now lol

[zenith sonnet]

Lol, deservedly

You can't just use something and not pay, because you don't like the price

[old marlin]

yea

their argumentation is absolute dogshit

[zenith sonnet]

They can sue to get a portion of it back

But they have to pay first

[old marlin]

"nokia doesn't want to sell the license for a fair price"

[zenith sonnet]

I guess they're not expecting that they'd get any of it back, though

But this licencing stuff is pretty BS, too

But I guess laws are getting ever worse, not better

[old marlin]

ig they try to limit damages

although not being able to sell shit is pretty damn bad

[neat oriole]

For me going to 120 from 60 was huge

But maybe that’s just because I play a lot of fast paced fps

[halcyon moss]

i think for me it was variable refresh rate, or freesync

144 is a big plus though 🙂

[neat oriole]

I’m on 144 now and I can tell the difference between it and 120

[halcyon moss]

is freesync less important when the screen has a really high refresh rate? 🤔

[neat oriole]

It’s good if you have frequent frame drops

[zenith sonnet]

You can't tell 120 and 144 apart if latency is equal
But the 120 Hz display might have had significantly more latency

It's not just the refresh rate that counts

[misty saffron]

imagine not using 165hz...

[zenith sonnet]

Latency is what matters, and refresh rate is just another means to bring it down

[neat oriole]

Yes a lot of things factor into total system input latency

But I’m just saying I noticed a difference going from 120fps capped to 144 capped

It’s not huge

I’m getting a 240hz soon too

Although it’s a 1440p so im probably not going to be able to have it at the full 240fps

But ideally this monitor should last me a couple GPU generations

[zenith sonnet]

240Hz QHD?
First I hear about it

[neat oriole]

Yeah it’s been in the works for a while

I backed the eve spectrum monitor in February

Should be shipping soon?

[zenith sonnet]

What panel does it use?

[neat oriole]

It’s using an LG panel

And LG has their own monitors to launch soon maybe

[zenith sonnet]

Curious

Using an LG 27GL850 atm

And I definitely wanna see those overdrive curves

[neat oriole]

I just hope the motion blur isn’t bad

[zenith sonnet]

For the 27GL850, an overdrive setting that's good all the way down to 60 Hz, you have 6ms display latency

That's good for at most 166Hz

[neat oriole]

I’m cautiously optimistic about it

[zenith sonnet]

If they have a new panel, then I might want it, too
If it's using the same panel, then it'll be running at speeds it can't actually handle

[neat oriole]

I assume it’s a new panel

If it was just new software it probably wouldn’t have taken them so long

[zenith sonnet]

Although, there is a big difference between an overdrive curve that needs to be suitable for a fixed 240Hz, and one that needs to be suitable for a 60-240Hz VRR range

And honestly, 144Hz VRR > 240Hz fixed any day

[neat oriole]

It’s g sync compatible certified

VRR is 48-240 iirc

[cursive summit]

Uhhh

UHHH

This thing just murdered 10th and 11th gen CPUs on shit RAM speeds.

[old marlin]

yea won't believe it until it is released tbh

also wtf

ah SC speed

[zenith sonnet]

Now with better RAM ™️

[cursive summit]

Prolly 1650 Single core

Soo, have fun Rocket Lake

[zenith sonnet]

I imagine it'll be produced in limited quantities, and intel focuses their fab capacities on more competitive things

[old marlin]

I hate linux with passion

how hard is it to make a stupid installer that doesn't crash

[crimson wigeon]

Impossible

[halcyon moss]

.. what is a "installer"? ... .deb all the things :p

[old marlin]

.deb the whole OS

mmh yea sure

ig there are no stability problems if the OS isn't even able to install itself

[wheat plume]

WINDOWS PLZ GET THE FUCKING TIME RIGHT FOR ONCE

it is ALWAYS an hour behind

[reef patrol]

Just wait... On Sunday it's wintertime again 😄

[wheat plume]

LEL

discord no open on linux for me, and OBS no longer wants to record with NVENC :/

wtf happened

[crimson wigeon]

Linux by default sets hardware clock to UTC, Windows sets it to local time.. ```reg
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation]
"RealTimeIsUniversal"=dword:00000001

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvBeCSaaDxA

the true geforce experience™

[fair gull]

u can quad the 3090 again?

[ashen spindle]

Sli not but if your tool like octane can identify and use them yeah

[zenith sonnet]

@reef patrol Don't call it winter time when it's just normal time :p

[reef patrol]

That's what we call it here. Fite me 😛

[zenith sonnet]

Same. And it's stupid

[reef patrol]

And if anything Summertime should be normal time.

[zenith sonnet]

Nope

[reef patrol]

Because we move the clocks in WINTER to fix our schedules.

[zenith sonnet]

Summertime is an hour early

Wintertime is normal time

[reef patrol]

I highly disagree 😄

But I also want Summer/Wintertime changes to be removed altogether so rather moot.

[zenith sonnet]

You can disagree all you want, but Wintertime is the regular timezone
And yes, fuck those time changes. I don't understand what's so difficult about getting rid of them

Summertime adds one hour to the regular clock, going from UTC+1 to UTC+2
Means sun rises and sets an hour later than it really does
Also means being at work at 6am actually means being there at 5am normal time, and it's fucking horrible

[foggy solstice]

Call a local Euro MP and find out.

[pale sigil]

I feel you

I hate winter time, when I’d go to uni it was dark till I was nearly on campus

[ashen spindle]

that's caused by winter not winter time

it just changes when it happens so you might get lucky or unlucky if it affects you depending on where you are, when you travel etc.

[zenith sonnet]

@pale sigil Actually, during winter time, sun rises and hour earlier than during summer time

[ashen spindle]

but the "correct" time would be winter time

[zenith sonnet]

The correct term for Normalzeit seems to be Standard Time

Just had to look it up

Although Normal Time seems to be in use as well in Geography

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/t4cfantasy/status/1319302423702364161?s=21

Matthew Smith (@T4CFantasy)

ASUS ROG RX 6800 XT GAMING OC may be clocked at

1527 / 2160 / 2410
Base / game / boost

Ref
1487 / 2015 / 2250

Twitter

[cursive summit]

Nuff said

[ashen spindle]

wat

[cursive summit]

Fantasy so fake

[zenith sonnet]

Doubt it at this point

Every day another leak with 2.4-2.5GHz clocks

At least OC cards should hit that

[reef patrol]

Only 1200W

:3

[crimson wigeon]

What if it's actually 3 GHz 😮

[ashen spindle]

??? the guy maintains the techpowerup database

totally a fake

[cursive summit]

A joke's a joke

[ashen spindle]

@fair gull https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Quad-GeForce-RTX-3090-in-a-desktop---Does-it-work-1935/#QuadRTX3090-FeasibleorFantasy? the quad 3090s were 1700 watt

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/patrickschur_/status/1319318437840228352

Patrick Schur (@patrickschur_)

NV21 XT: I got the information that most custom cards will reach a Game Clock of AROUND 2,2 GHz. The Game Clock depends HEAVILY on the workload. Some cards are able to reach 2,3 GHz and OC custom cards are able to reach 2,4 GHz. You will definitely have fun with these cards. ...

Twitter

[cursive summit]

Multicore perf

Dunno how I feel about this..

[ashen spindle]

happy?

[cursive summit]

Fishy

I want to see gaming perf

Amazing value

I don't even care they raised the prices

The perf on paper looks amazing

[reef patrol]

[reef tundra]

Who would not puke at the intel hq?

[ashen spindle]

Firestrike Ultra

Big Navi: 11500
RTX 3080: 10600

👀

[ashen spindle]

OH MA GOD

that aftermarket dip

[cursive summit]

Big navi beats RTX 3080?

Which SKU tho?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[cursive summit]

Must be 6900XT?

a.k.a Navi 21XTX?

[ashen spindle]

high chance its xt

[cursive summit]

Hm so XTX is AMD's answer to RTX 3090?

Don't need to wait for long, 5 days

Hype? Activated
AMD? Powered
Intel? Destroyed
Nvidia? Shooked
Hotel? Trivago

I don't think they expected this with the cancellation of 2x VRAM RTX 3000 series

[ashen spindle]

fuckign hell I shouldve made popcorn

I knew this intel earnings call would be a shitshow

[cursive summit]

What did they mention?

[ashen spindle]

its live right now

[cursive summit]

Drop a link bud?

[ashen spindle]

https://www.intc.com/

[cursive summit]

Wait

DG1 shipping now?

Intel DG1?

It's been a while we heard anything about that

[ashen spindle]

? we heard about it during CES and now we have laptops with it coming out

nothing special

[cursive summit]

Hm

I want to see how good their dedicated graphics are

DG1 isn't the integrated one

[ashen spindle]

nothing special

it's basically integrated one but put on a gpu

so it's better bc it can draw more power

[cursive summit]

I heard upwards of 700 execution units or something

Current Intel iGPUs use 96 max

[ashen spindle]

pretty sure thats pnte veccio or HPG

[cursive summit]

Sapphire Rapids?

Would that be the 2021 Q4 part?

[ashen spindle]

yeah it's as much 2021 as much as ice lake is 2020

[cursive summit]

Did Intel just justify "10% decreased Server income year per year" due to "Covid"?

Not cause "Epyc is kicking our ass"?

"COVID impacted our Enterprise segment 40% year over year"

Like what?

You sure it's not Epyc?

[ashen spindle]

lmao no, epyc is not that much volume

[cursive summit]

Did they mention "AMD" at least once in the earnings call?

[ashen spindle]

... are you sure you know what an earnings call is about?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ek9pUd4XIAAfZCz?format=jpg&name=large

[cursive summit]

Eh mainly financial report to ensure stock owners that "Your money is in good hands"

But they do mention some announcements at times

[cursive summit]

Lads

I am planning to buy an LG CX series OLED 4K TV

For gaming, youtube, movies, etc

[wheat plume]

LG Sex oled tv

[cursive summit]

Would things rendered at 1080p look better on 4K screen

[reef tundra]

No horny prison for you

[cursive summit]

Or native 1080p panel?

My rig can't render true 4K on AAA games

[reef tundra]

1080p on 4k seems more blurry i think

[crimson wigeon]

You activate TURING INTEGER SCALING and then it looks exactly the same as on a 1080p panel

[cursive summit]

The what now?

[ashen spindle]

or just regular integer scaling :p

[cursive summit]

I ain't got no Turing cards

[ashen spindle]

any modern thing can do integer scaling

funnily enough intel were first

[reef tundra]

Any cpu can do integer maths since its invention

[ashen spindle]

ahahaha

oh god

"Our server roadmap has been consistent for the last 18 months"

yeah consistently delayed

[reef tundra]

Consistant in disapointing

[cursive summit]

What even was their last server part?

2 years ago?

[ashen spindle]

cooper lake this year

[cursive summit]

Even the name sounds disappointing

[ashen spindle]

fucking hell I shouldve made popcorn
idc how google spied on me here, youtube showed me a gordon ramsay makes popcorn video, I now know what I'll do for next week lamo

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle is 16gb enough these days or 32gb beter?

can games use 32gb?

[ashen spindle]

unoptimized skyrim mods that could go up to like 100gb aside, yes

I mean, more doesn't hurt in a technical sense as long as it doesnt make the tracing worse or smth

but I doubt you'll need that much for a realisitc gaming setup anytime soon

[fickle ore]

Games dont generally load themselves onto the ram if there is enough space?

Or do they? Lol

[ashen spindle]

oh wait you meant ram not vram

[fickle ore]

ya RAM

[ashen spindle]

navi having 16gb and I was just reading on stuff made me thinkg of gpu lmao

[fickle ore]

woopsies

[ashen spindle]

I assume you are looking into 4x4 vs 4x8?

bc 16 for now is definitely enough and if its 2x8 you could just upgrade whenever

[fickle ore]

Basically looking if a game can load itself onto DRAM provided there is enough of it, and from there the GPU can stream assets

https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-games-load-all-assets-into-RAM-when-I-have-128-GB-Is-there-an-option-or-some-sort-of-software-for-this-to-be-automatic

gotta read this

brb

[ashen spindle]

I mean you could just ramdisk the game

[fickle ore]

Ya another consideration, but the game is around 26GB and might grow once it releases

Fuck doubt im building zen 3

too hard

I cant pick ram/ssd cause no Phison E18 on the market yet and the new silicon motion controller might be even better

[ashen spindle]

isnt the sabre rocket 4+ using E18?

[fickle ore]

yep but 96cell vs 126cell TLC (samsung)

its not optimal

[ashen spindle]

ehh idk, once again feel like you're chasing optimal stuff instead of just getting something nice that will just be great to play on

[fickle ore]

Correct

[ashen spindle]

bc then you might as well wait for zen 5 at minimum

new platform so not optimal stuff on release for zen4, ddr5 early adopter pains etc etc

[fickle ore]

comes down to 32gb 4000/17cl ripjaws at 275€ vs 16gb patriot vipers 4400/CL19 at 135€

mostly

I guess I can just get samsung 980 pro or sabrent rocket 4 +

if you know any better kits lmk

[ashen spindle]

I mean idk what the ideal spot for zen3 will be

so hard to say which one performs better

[fickle ore]

lets assume 4000/14-16

[ashen spindle]

no like I havent paid attention bc idk what to look for and nand prices are expected to still drop in Q4

so I just wait till I know what to look for

no point having to look for the same hours 2 weeks later

[fickle ore]

ye true but wud be nice to find the oc numbers ppl are hitting on the viper kits for example

[ashen spindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ maybe crucial releases more of their 16gb-but-8gb revB for zen3 launch and that will be ideal who knows

for now I'm more focused on hopping into bed and read twitter to laugh at intel fanboys

[fickle ore]

lol

[wheat plume]

:/

My bios doesn't see my windows drive

Wtf

[timid chasm]

It's kind of amazing the temperature difference you can get on something just by swapping a few fans around

or rather flipping the fans, not swapping them

[ashen spindle]

ah a nice short video recapping the intel call https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr9sNs9IedA

[cursive summit]

Ain't this the ginger kid who has souls?

[cursive summit]

Anyways

I read that FireStrike Ultra is a bit unbalanced towards Nvidia and even 5700XT is destroying RTX 2080

So TimeSpy results compared to Nvidia cards:

Big Navi:
16700 : TS
8000 : TSE

3090
19700 : TS
10200 : TSE

3080
17600 : TS
8900 : TSE

2080 TI
14600 : TS
7100 : TSE

[halcyon moss]

annoucement is today?

28th

[cursive summit]

Ehh?

Yeah must be today

28th 🙂

[zenith sonnet]

@cursive summit From my own experience, Fire Strike slightly favours AMD archs and Time Spy strongly favours Nvidia archs

The thing I hate about 3D Mark is that they don't have good normalised results :/

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-claims-the-top-score-in-passmark-single-thread-benchmark

https://tenor.com/view/its-beautiful-gif-9743590

[zenith sonnet]

It's significantly more

Where's the 3600XT at?

2900 -> 3500 is already 19.4%

[wheat plume]

I like gnome extensions, this one shows GPU info :D which was hard to find a widget for plasma to do

[ashen spindle]

cool so it's a useless display of numbers

neat I guess

[pale sigil]

XD@

[wheat plume]

I use for games, to see howq hot the GPU gets

cause im worried about the fans being shit in my case

[zenith sonnet]

I've got an issue I can't explain, halp pls
Been trying to use this calculator
http://ecodiet.kaansarkaya.com/
But after about a second or so of performance it slows to a crawl and doesn't finish

[ashen spindle]

and what temperature is it showing and till what temperature is it fine? I bet you know neither am I right?

[wheat plume]

the GPU shuts off at 85C

so I need to make sure it doesnt reach that

[ashen spindle]

your gpu goes that high wtf

still, are you sure it's showing correct gpu temperature and not for example memory or an average or smth

also I'm pretty sure max temp on yours is 95

[ashen spindle]

so you dont know what temperature it shows

[wheat plume]

I do

27C

[ashen spindle]

and thats the temperature of what?

[wheat plume]

thr GPU

[crimson wigeon]

I'm pretty sure it's just continuously running nvidia-smi in the background to pull that information so run that in a terminal near you to confirm

[ashen spindle]

most modern ones have multiple sensors, is it a random one, is it an average, does it only have one?

[reef tundra]

The more data that gets displayed, the less you actually know.

[ashen spindle]

the only tool I trust for temperature readings is hwinfo

[reef tundra]

I trust the driver to not fuck itself

[ashen spindle]

idk if it apparently shuts down at 85 but the card is rated for 95C it sounds like something is wrong there

[wheat plume]

idk if it does shut down at that, but my computer froze quite a few times playing games after about an hour

[reef tundra]

Mine dont even reach those temps even at max load

[wheat plume]

not too sure the max mine has reached, I need to try again

[zenith sonnet]

Anyone have an idea for my issue?

[reef tundra]

Probably cus it aint overclocked

[ashen spindle]

if your pc regularly freezes, something is very wrong lol

[wheat plume]

ive only overclocked the ram to 3200MHz cause thats the speed they advertise for it on the packaging and whatnot

[reef tundra]

Marketing aint averse to lying tho

[wheat plume]

if your pc regularly freezes, something is very wrong lol
@ashen spindle yeh....I think its the desktop I was using, plasma is not a fan of nvidia drivers

[ashen spindle]

oh it only has issue in linux?

[wheat plume]

yeah, not on windows so far

[ashen spindle]

oh cant help then good luck

[wheat plume]

I played like 3 hours of BF3 at max settings and no issues

[reef tundra]

Only on plasma?

[wheat plume]

IDK

I just replaced it wiht gnome desktop so Ill see then

[reef tundra]

how much bloat is plasma nowadays tho? Whats the ram usage

[wheat plume]

but i suspect the desktop

ram usage is about 700-900MB at bootup

[ashen spindle]

try playing something that caused the issue on windows and see if it happens there too

[wheat plume]

dISTANCE, YEH

[reef tundra]

Jeez, i can run my setup 4 times with that

[wheat plume]

oops

twm? XD

[ashen spindle]

ram shouldnt mattere here

[wheat plume]

gtg ;-;

[reef tundra]

I know, just curious. yes it is an tiling window manager but has floating support aswell

its very minimal

[crimson wigeon]

Where do you find this tiled twm

I only find the non-tiling twm

[reef tundra]

twm is oldie, i rememeber. Currently running dwm

[wheat plume]

Ahh

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WNRkluFgSk more intel from dr. potato

excited to see him do more youtube stuff

[wet solstice]

Sorry for dumb (newb to mechanicals) would this work for my wooting one https://www.originativeco.com/products/honeywell-co

[ashen spindle]

different profile but I think it should, @reef patrol ?

[wet solstice]

was that uh answer to me?

[ashen spindle]

yeah pinged mansen to make sure

[wet solstice]

what's uh profile

[crisp granite]

it will

[ashen spindle]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/fzdzkdc_TDrxqF5VkdkhBUMePIlp0n_vbpubaoc7NZkG406azLobG3JDFTIMCgepprYxWFMR6rwYX_4qKViwilRYJ3QTpj9ljVRz-aU

[crisp granite]

it's cherry profile

[wet solstice]

So anything that says it work for "cherry mx" works here?

[crisp granite]

yup

[wet solstice]

Thank yall

[crisp granite]

the set will fit

[ashen spindle]

profile just means how the form is with some examples in that picture

[wet solstice]

mm time to buy a $25 fidget spinner keycap

[reef patrol]

Since the Wootings are plate mounted I don't see any issues with using Cherry profile keycaps. Some keyboards where they're "sunken" in, some profiles can "hit" the lip when being pushed down or up.

We are not responsible for any damages during the delivery.

Not sure this is a place I'd want to buy from though 😄

That is... probably not legal even in the US to claim.

[old marlin]

plate mounting is not the problem with cherry profile

it is having north facing LEDs

from my experience flaretech doesn't have that issue, while the HE switches probably will

[cursive summit]

Likely bullshit

But this is just too much

[sick creek]

However, in 3DMark Port Royal at 4K, Nvidia’s RTX appears to have the advantage. With a score of 5,415, the Ampere-based GPU outperforms AMD’s RDNA 2-based RX 6800 XT by more than 20%.

As this is a ray tracing specific benchmark, it’s no surprise that the Nvidia RTX 3080 came out on top. However, it might be that ray tracing is not yet fully optimized in current AMD drivers and that we can expect better performance after the card is released.

https://www.techradar.com/news/leaked-amd-big-navi-benchmarks-could-have-nvidia-worried

[crimson wigeon]

Just as bullshit as this hilarious "move tech talk down" prank

[sick creek]

this just smacks of "but they'll fix it in drivers" and never do

remember fx8150

[cursive summit]

Synthethic benchmarks aren't representative of real world perf

[sick creek]

IMHO, if you're lagging behind 20% that's not going to be fixed in drivers

[cursive summit]

Who the fuck even measures RTX performance?

I give no craps about that

[sick creek]

people who want rtx

[cursive summit]

Show me normal perf

In Port Royale

[sick creek]

anyway, i'm not on either side right now; i'm waiting til this comes out and gets benched by GN

[cursive summit]

HU or GN

[sick creek]

i trust tech jesus a lot more

[cursive summit]

Anyways I'm still waiting for GN Steve's AMD bike review

I heard it's actually bad

[sick creek]

especially with his MSI coverage

like what a shining example of "no fucks given"

[cursive summit]

I have a feeling Steve kinda went out of control with MSI

But. eh

[sick creek]

nah, they deserve to be slapped hard

[cursive summit]

I'm not denying that

MSI's a dead brand to me

[sick creek]

there's no way the inventory shit was a mistake

but they got caught

[cursive summit]

I'm just saying the way he titled the video and everything, was quite a bit much

[sick creek]

eh, it gets views

[cursive summit]

I do like his transparency

[sick creek]

and it was pretty accurate

[cursive summit]

Yeah Steve doesn't get paid

That's good

[sick creek]

ya i bought a mod mat to support them

[cursive summit]

ASRock afaik already banned him or something

[sick creek]

they cant ban him from buying their products

and still reviewing then 😂

[cursive summit]

Review samples

[sick creek]

ya i know

oop, time to poop brb

[reef patrol]

Why doesn't anyone carry this super simple cable. I hate not having a soldering iron.

https://tenor.com/view/dangit-damnit-sob-angry-gif-14366416

[ashen spindle]

is that uhhhh

[fair gull]

what are u powering lol

[ashen spindle]

idk what power plug to 4 pin?

[fair gull]

molex 4pin to barrel

[reef patrol]

It's a molex to a DC barrel.

[fair gull]

but idk what the fuck for

[reef patrol]

Gives me 12v for my LCD 😄

[fair gull]

maybe they dont carry it cause its usually not required in pcs

in 6 years of pc shop

[reef patrol]

Mhmm... 😦

[fair gull]

no one has ever asked for it

nor did i ever need it

[reef patrol]

It's for DIY and hobby stuff. But not even the hobby stores carry it. I can find it in... the US.

[fair gull]

id offer to solder one tho

as in to customers

if someone said i need this plug on a molex

id be like sure can do gib

[reef patrol]

So annoyed. Getting defeated by... a one buck cable 😄

[fair gull]

getting defeated by not having a soldering iron

[cursive summit]

Ooo happy birthday FX-8350

[reef patrol]

That too 😄

[fair gull]

everyone needs one

[cursive summit]

What a godly CPU

I have a soldering iron and a soldering pistol

[fair gull]

release != birthday id argue

[cursive summit]

Whole kit of soldering tools

No idea how to use them

I have no clue why I bought them, but they are just hidden somewhere in the wardrobe

[vagrant marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz5UbEjR9Ys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRFV1J2629U

[ashen spindle]

hm looks like there will be a decent ammount of variety coming from the rdna2 stack, thank god https://twitter.com/_rogame/status/1319731295967203334

_rogame (@_rogame)

Navi22 Update 🧐

Navi22 __ => D51201
Navi22 XTL? => D51221
Navi22 XTL => D5110_
Navi22 __ => D51601
Navi22 __ => D51610
Navi22 __ WKS => D51701 https://t.co/2gZde3aRjg

Twitter

maybe r9 590 can finally retire for good

[crimson wigeon]

I just wonder how the driver situation is gonna be as RDNA appears to have been a mess on that front, or maybe the hardware itself is faulty

[ashen spindle]

Well we know that a lot of hardware engineers were really happy to tell you how much more they enjoy working on Navi2x bc it’s no longer 50% Vega/gcn

So maybe that part also makes it better on software site

[vagrant marsh]

well see.

[ashen spindle]

but I do admit software is where I'm rather optimistic than realistic bc I want to upgrade and have my card work lmao

[vagrant marsh]

exactly. i mean, if you buy a radeon 6800xt whatever, and you once again have to suffer through driver rollbacks. i mean, i did that once back in....

2002? i think. my first real graphics cards was an ATI. and...i want to forget that time. i had issues with games with that card that my next pc didnt had. which just makes me naturally assume nvidia just works

[ashen spindle]

lol

I started with amd, then 2 nvidia cards

now probably back to amd

bc lol ampere

[vagrant marsh]

i dunno man, playing doom ethernal, killing demons in 8k 60 fps seems legit nice to me, even though only the super rich have 8k screens rn

[ashen spindle]

sure, but I'd rather have more performance at the resolution I'm actually playing at, not at one I dont play at

[vagrant marsh]

exactly

like. it would be nice if framedrops just never happened any more. like, ever

[ashen spindle]

yeah so amd is the better choice most likely lol

[crimson wigeon]

Well I'm sure performance benefits apply to all resolutions

Unless it's like "haha you're a 4K / 1080p pleb I'll run at half performance fuck you!"

[ashen spindle]

ehh, with how weird ampere is, as its mostly a downscaled GEMM machine, gains in 4k and above are better than on lower ones

and I run 3440X1440

so middle between 2k and 4k

[vagrant marsh]

Pff

Thats for noobs. Real men game in 5120 x 1440

4k data bro

[reef tundra]

with 420 fps breaking no sweat

[vagrant marsh]

Thats why i want a stronger graphics card, to run my oversized screen at max res

But 2080ti was always too expensive

[fair gull]

ure right was

[ashen spindle]

now its still expensive bc it's EoL but ampere is also not availible

[fair gull]

id say missed the oppurtunity

[ashen spindle]

either someone fell asleep on the keyboard or we are about to have a 5 page essay in this channel

[thick elk]

Alternatively I am thinking / deleting a bad comment over and over while watching a video.

[ashen spindle]

:p

[fair gull]

bruh can i get a tl;dr of qlums essay

too lazy to read it all

[ashen spindle]

tl;dr: multiple read/write cycles used

[fair gull]

[reef tundra]

The netherrite pickaxe went tick tick and the rock said crumble crumble

[fair gull]

the fuck is a netherite pickaxe

[ashen spindle]

idk, but it sounds like something intel could use to get some tick progress

[fair gull]

i checked my usual modpacks they all dont have it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[urban lynx]

it's default minecraft now

dont burn in lava

[thick elk]

I don't know if it was posted already but Ian analysis was pretty good of intels financial disclosures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr9sNs9IedA

[fair gull]

wha

[ashen spindle]

ye, pretty short too :p

[fair gull]

guess im glad not to have played mc on anything but like 1.12

[urban lynx]

oh please. dont be one of those "BAH INNOVATION BAD"

[ashen spindle]

did mention it earlier, glad Dr. C is making more youtube content

[urban lynx]

i was like that too when enchantment "BS" got added

[fair gull]

na but

netherite pickaxe doesnt burn in lava?

[urban lynx]

now I'm one to need it, otherwise no more buildy buildy

[reef tundra]

Enchanting good

[fair gull]

thats some dumb shit

[urban lynx]

boo hoo

[reef tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZpf6QO57PA

[urban lynx]

not like some modpacks did that with some stuff too

besides, if you dont want it, dont craft it.

[fair gull]

yes but that shit i just dont touch and its not default mc

[reef tundra]

Netherite is lava-resistant, despawning will get to it

[fair gull]

i checked up on netherrite is the best shit

this makes me angry

[reef tundra]

Yes, lava-resistant and better than diamonds

Even gets the knockback resistance

[fair gull]

and tons of more durability

[urban lynx]

it actually has the same mining properties as diamond. but is more durable.

and the armor gets knockback resistance. but same armor value as diamond

[reef tundra]

Yes, my pickaxe has mending so pretty much always high durability

[ashen spindle]

insane power creep, smh devs these days

[urban lynx]

gold is still fastes pick. and still gets best ranodom table enchants

[reef tundra]

Enchanting books are better to use. as they allow higher levels and more control

[urban lynx]

is a religious villager trading hall girl

[reef tundra]

And two lower level books make an higher level book. so 2 power 4 books make 1 power 5 book

[urban lynx]

combining books adds levels though

[fair gull]

who enchants their tools directly lol

[reef tundra]

With survival capped at 39 levels max

[urban lynx]

cant put as many enchantments on a bow for example if you use a bunch of combined books opposed to a straight up max level book

same reason why you cant endlessly repair an infinity bow i only recently found out.

ever since infinity fell in favor of mending to me.

not like i lack arrows

[ashen spindle]

mc bows are dead to me ever since they no longer work like early in beta I want my rapid fire

[urban lynx]

finding one skeleton spawner as early xp farm and you got tons of chests of arrows.

[reef tundra]

Get a skelleton grinder. Infinity is nothing to mending

[urban lynx]

oof, the rapid fire. on one side i miss it, on the other the new system is better / intuitive

[reef tundra]

rarely you shoot more than a stack of arrows

[fair gull]

u see my entire base uses target blocks now

[urban lynx]

that's what i do, mr panda. i decided against infinity 2 years ago or so

[fair gull]

instead of plates and buttons

[ashen spindle]

good choice, we need to take a strong stance against the opressive infinity cult, we need to rise up today

[thick elk]

Modded minecraft can have you covered on rapid fire bows though.

[reef tundra]

mending helps to curb the level creep to keep it repaired

hard to get them tho

[urban lynx]

havent really liked modded minecraft after better than wolves got discontinued

[reef tundra]

Tekkit was pretty dope when i played it in like 2016

[urban lynx]

idk. that was already a time where i didnt like tekkit anymore

it got too big for my taste

i dont like loading modpacks with hundreds of mods, where i end up using only like 3 or 4 anyway, because these overpower everything else

IF i do modded, it's usually only a hand few selected ones.

like railcraft, immersive engineering.

[reef tundra]

Energy condenser

[urban lynx]

the fuck is energy condenser?

[reef tundra]

turns any item into an abitrary currency that you can use to make new items

pretty much dirt to diamonds etc

[urban lynx]

that sounds like something i wont even consider adding to my selection

[ashen spindle]

I feel like default minecraft needs to add a blockchain update, missed opportunity really

[urban lynx]

blockchain?

[fair gull]

that sounds like EE3 with extra steps

[reef tundra]

The ICBM mod was also pretty fun to speedrun. first to nuke their friends speedrun lol

[ashen spindle]

if you think about it, minecraft is just a chain of blocks, there has to be some silly thing you can make from that

[fair gull]

actual blockchain using mc servers and nbt data

[ashen spindle]

all blockchains things are mostly useless silly things so it would fit

[reef tundra]

The internet is just a series of tubes

[ashen spindle]

yes

[urban lynx]

i'm too tired to make sense of this

[ashen spindle]

who needs bitcoin ledger if you can just check if the block is dirt or air

[fair gull]

lol

just count em out

[reef tundra]

who griefed the ledger spawn again

[ashen spindle]

(im making fun of crypto currency sarah)

[fair gull]

wait were making fun of it? but this is the truth

[urban lynx]

... oh?

[fair gull]

blockchain is just a slow database

[reef tundra]

yes

[ashen spindle]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoSa3zjX0AE1x4P.jpg

[reef tundra]

BIG DATA! BLOCKCHAIN! DISTRUPTIVE! INNOVATIVE! Invest now pls

[fair gull]

imagine blockchain being replaced with an actual db

[reef tundra]

Then it would become centralised

[fair gull]

doesnt need to be

[ashen spindle]

just have it be two servers that store it, done lol

[fair gull]

ya

[ashen spindle]

it's like raid but in the cloud

and we all know the cloud is magic and not other peoples computer

[reef tundra]

The cloud is just someone elses harddrive

[ashen spindle]

[fair gull]

the cloud is a collection of condensed water molecules

[reef tundra]

and dirt particles

[fair gull]

na

ure dirty before it rains

its not the rain making u dirty

[reef tundra]

Ya need dirt to form the cloud bubbles.

anything that water sticks to and floats

[fair gull]

the earth is a big clump of dirt

[reef tundra]

nucleation sites

and gas

quick get the gasmask

we are getting gassed

by oxygen and nitrogen

Argon, nobility get outta here

[latent mural]

Anyone know where I can get a good Red, key cap set?

[ashen spindle]

I hope I can one day find someone I love as much as francois loves to hate on anandtech because he hates one of their writers https://twitter.com/FPiednoel/status/1319850915306770434

🗽🇺🇸😷François Piednoël😷🇺🇸🗽 (@FPiednoel)

They totally have lost the meaning of "best " at Anandtech, they are now doing classification by pricing to declare the best, that makes it totally subjective and irrelevant https://t.co/utV5IYFdc8

Twitter

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

how sad must your life be if you are an ex intel engineer and every other week hate on a site bc the new cpu reviewer isn't blasting "INTEL FTW" every day

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah this appeard on my timeline https://twitter.com/intelnews/status/872939120334479361

Intel News (@intelnews)

Ice Lake, our 2nd generation 10nm processor, is taped in. Intel continues to lead in 10nm technology.

Twitter

june 2017

shipping in Q1 2021

[zenith sonnet]

All 5 of them?

[old marlin]

Intel continues to lead in 10nm technology.

[ashen spindle]

yeah just like they 10nm node is accelerating every quarter

think by now we must be above the speed of light will all that acceleration

[thick elk]

Intel is also the only company were the 10nm node is still relevant.

[ashen spindle]

not hard if you are the only company with a 10nm node :p

[thick elk]

samsung and tsmc have one as well, I don't know if it is still relevant but it was a half node from 2016 or so

[fair gull]

wha

[ashen spindle]

ah right forgot samsung just renamed 10 to 8 after some adjustments

[fair gull]

psure node doesnt mean what its supposed to be anymore

[ashen spindle]

ye the number means nothing since uh, 28nm? or whatever it was where they introduced finfet

ah 22nm for intel, so 32nm intel was the last time the name was relevant

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/KgfNXw8Rzf.png

[ashen spindle]

cant fully blame anyone, wouldn't have made sense to say "we go from 32nm to our new 2mm/mm^2 node" or whatever the naming will be in the future

[fair gull]

just dont use it in marketing?

would fix all of this

i dont see how the technology node is relevant anyway

to consumers

[ashen spindle]

because it's not only cpus/gpus that get made in foundries

sure for a pc consumer it doesnt really matter, but for FPGA etc.

[fair gull]

so how often do u buy singular nand flash chips

or SoCs

like this is a pure business thing imo

hardware engineering and science kinda stuff

[ashen spindle]

engineers still use it internally bc it's easier to say than a relative density number etc.

[fair gull]

ya

but not even prosumers need that info imo

it gives no info on any real computational power

or efficency

[ashen spindle]

it used to

[fair gull]

ya like 8 years ago

or heck even longer

[ashen spindle]

ya till 22nm on intel side

2011 apaprently

[fair gull]

rn its just to get the fanbois hyped and into a war

[ashen spindle]

yeah now its just marketing

but you need something to refer to it, both in marketing and engineering, and for till then it made sense

so gl finding something to replace the naming with that fits all usecases

[fair gull]

benchmark numbers of a wide range maybe?

oh wait they already show these

[ashen spindle]

again, it's something that matters for more than just cpu/gpu

[fair gull]

again does a consumer or prosumer need to know?

no

this is like purely cpu based

and gpu based

cause they use it to fuel dumb marketing to sell shit where it doesnt really matter anymore

[ashen spindle]

let's say I want to buy a IoT chip thing from global foundries, I do need to know which procress its using to see if I can scale it up/down to what I need

[fair gull]

ure not a consumer or prosumer then tho

[ashen spindle]

a consumer to the foundry yes, not a consumer of a product someone else made through them

[urban lynx]

as a consoomer i wanna know speeds, storage, and power usage (curve) bs.
and other accessory features like over heat shutdown protect stuff n shit.
what do i care about the size of some node?

[fair gull]

u damn right know thats not what consumer and prosumer usually refer to

[ashen spindle]

yes in that case you don't need it, but it doesn't hurt and still allows you to have some more insight in what it is

would it hurt anyone if they don't tell you? no, but it still wouldnt change the name they use

[fair gull]

ya "insight" that usually goes to "intel still 10nm lol and amd already 7nm"

"intel suck"

[zenith sonnet]

I want my games go brrrrrr

[fair gull]

thats pmuch it rn

[zenith sonnet]

[ashen spindle]

that's more on the marketing pushing it that direction, not really from the name not being that accurate anymore

[fair gull]

id say it is

[ashen spindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ feel like if they would withold the info it would either make people confused why its not said now, or lets them find something even stupider to argue about

or both even

[fair gull]

psure that people who actually care will be able to easily research it even if they dont provide it in marketing material

[ashen spindle]

at that point we are just fighting against bullshit marketing and as much as I'd like to see that gone, I think we both know that won't happen

[fair gull]

to me it seems just to be "number go smaller must buy cause it goes more brrr cause number is smaller"

[ashen spindle]

well yeah, 7nm so on the 7th day of 7th month they made announcement, vega 7 was written a VII for 7 and Vega 2, announced on the 7th of second month etc.