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#๐โtech
calm sparrow
Does anyone on their pc when they load up discord ever see it have to go though 5 updates before it starts loading
Ping me when answering since I am about ready to sleep
I use the browser version of discord for my second account
misty pier
I use PTB so yeah, it does that for me at startup
zenith sonnet
@ashen spindle now I somewhat doubt the teaser they have shown is a 6900 XT at 2.4GHz
Those are crazy clocks, at 255W no less?
Doubt until I see it, but it's possible with all we know
@prisma crag I'm still waiting for those sweet displays as well :(
reef patrol
Too smol
wheat plume
misty saffron
what would be the best software for data recovery?
r-studio seems to be shilled a lot
reef patrol
No such thing outside of professional internal tools.
Some tools work better on some disks, others on others.
But step 1. Unplug it and stop accessing it.
wheat plume
The new media player!
ashen spindle
https://1000awesomethings.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/rollercoaster.jpg AMD hype train at ampere reveal vs now 
there is a great lack of trains going straight up or down I noticed when looking for better pictures tbh
zenith sonnet
Well, if it's good, might do another upgrade
reef patrol
Jesus what a mess.
ashen spindle
lots of weed
urban lynx
nah. something 'arder i believ'
ashen spindle
might just be OEM naming for laptops maybe?
(still shit though even if its just OEM)
reef patrol
That's not reeeaslly an excusem
ashen spindle
not for the naming, but it might be OEMs not wanting to sell 4k series, giving amd marketing a tiny benefit of doubt :p
calm sparrow
Alright I am back after sleeping, second question, so whenever I try to stream a game like bioshock or minecraft, or any game for that matter, I usually get a java error, any explanation for that?
ashen spindle
what does the error say/where does it come from
calm sparrow
Well give me a moment I got to load up bioshock and see
I know it comes from discord
It may only happen in dms but either way I have no fucking clue, it usually just says there's an error when trying to stream
ashen spindle
... they are releasing more than one card
but yes, of course they are not going to beat the 3090 and ask you to pay 250 for it??
there are 3 based on navi 21 alone
chrome estuary
oh you mean, "That's not the real navi, wait for the real navi to come out."
ashen spindle
if the plan is to replace the entire product stack, doubt navi 22/23 will take a year to come out
might be announced on analyst day on the 27th
ashen spindle
man china really taking copying to next level
5GE was 4g from ATT, so 5g++ is 3G lmao
ashen spindle
m8 its 50pound china phone, who knows if they even know whats in there
pale sigil
xD im just curious haha
ashen spindle
the text he posted is not him being drunk, it's the text on the phone lmao
I wouldnt be surprised if its just some throwaway design to get stuff out of warehouse
I THINK it's meant to translate to "Designed to comply with FCC demands"
but jesus christ
reef patrol
DEANDERING
wheat plume
fucking hell, this shit is spooking me out.....
pale sigil
@wheat plume did you know water is wet? ๐
wheat plume
In the dev channel for windows insiders is an upcoming change that adds this button to the very top of the settings screen. You click it and it sets the default browser to edge..
old marlin
As a beta tester you should also test edge 
Or just don't be a fucking beta tester if you don't intend to beta test
And just use the last stable release like everyone else
Less buggy as well
true quest
mayhaps they only want to fucking beta test certain things
old marlin
It is lana, ofc she only is in the beta test programm cause it is the beta test programm
wheat plume
It is lana, ofc she only is in the beta test programm cause it is the beta test programm
@old marlin LEL
reef patrol
old marlin
and that is why companies stop doing betas
cause the beta testers are jsut people that join for having "the newest version" don't do any reports
and then complain that the software is unstable
wheat plume
I don't complain though
Cause windows is always unstable
Even on the release version
old marlin
old marlin
that power plug placement 
reef patrol
Those damn Danes.
zenith sonnet
Still more stock than the VII, I guess?
old marlin
3080 PCB also was short af
ashen spindle
yeah I really hate that I can save money on my already way to expensive gpu by them making the pcb "ugly"
almost like watercooling is not the majority of sales so those cards primarily shouldn't give a fuck about it ๐ค
zenith sonnet
So, we need EK to make cards along with their blocks
ashen spindle
and?
yes because I barely watch something that isn't relevant to me
that was my point, watercooling is barely relevant for pcb design
ashen spindle
.. did I cause him to leave the server because I didn't see watercooling as super relevant? 
zenith sonnet
Glad we get a skip now button in Germany
halcyon moss
Thats your name?
zenith sonnet
Probably.
wheat plume
i think it makes you choose to install some microsoft apps and switch to edge as your browser
reef patrol
I wonder if they're still forcing MS accounts on install if you're connected to the internet.
wheat plume
yeh
reef patrol
Haven't installed Windows in half a year 
wheat plume
they do ;-;
ashen spindle
pretty sure that was something 2004 or the version before didnt do anymore
or at least no always did, there have been conflicting reports
halcyon moss
EArlier this year there was a skip option.. its well hidden though, but it was there
zenith sonnet
Top of settings
zenith sonnet
crimson wigeon
That top bar is entirely A/B testing everyone gets different things there
zenith sonnet
It's new
crimson wigeon
For example I only have Windows Update there
old marlin
not there for me
zenith sonnet
It'll disappear again, or I'll dismiss it
old marlin
yea got nothing
zenith sonnet
Lol, maybe because my Windows Update is not up to date
old marlin
my computer also is in a domain
zenith sonnet
I tried to dismiss it
old marlin
which changes thing up
zenith sonnet
And it said Windows Update needs attention
wheat plume
For example I only have Windows Update there
@crimson wigeon I have update and rewards and also the nag to switch default browser to edge
old marlin
lol
zenith sonnet
I set my connection to metered, so Windows Update can't do anything without my attention anyway
old marlin
i forgot what that tool was called fml
old marlin
that deblaots windows
crimson wigeon
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/required-windows-diagnostic-data-events-and-fields-2004 collects and sends quite a lot to the mothership, you can also confirm this for yourself with the data viewer
ashen spindle
https://twitter.com/UniverseIce/status/1316732191850676224 hmm so it might be 2022 when we see the first amd gpu in a phone
crimson wigeon
Exciting, wonder if those would also go in ARM PCs
ashen spindle
doubt it, samsung isnt really in that market
and I imagine for pcs amd would prefer to do their own stuff
it's just a deal with amd/samsung not amd/arm after all
ashen spindle
maybe, but I think amd would be able to offer a better apu solution than samsung could do with arm
old marlin
yea
really interested in seing something similar to an asrock A300
but a bit smaller
they are still quite big in comparison to a NUC
ig makes them easier and cheaper to make
ashen spindle
looks like a refunctioned PSU box lmao
reef patrol
I had a really nice slim ITX case a few years ago. Forgot the name - Some kind of renaissance artist. Case had just enough room for the ITX board, used an included power brick beneath and had drives on the back. Quite a nice HTPC case ๐
reef patrol
old marlin
also chopin was a pianist afaik?
reef patrol
Sounds about right - I couldn't remember the name xD
reef patrol
You could also exactly squeeze in the stock cooler, if you took of the decorative part.
My only issue with it was the PSU being proprietary.
But of course with Pico and such these days it's less of an issue.
halcyon moss
nice, quite a capable system i imagine
reef patrol
Great for streaming. And I managed to squeeze about 30fps smooth in Farcry 5 at lowest settings at 720P with just the iGPU.
And... 30 in Overwatch at 1080P I think.
crimson wigeon
Doesn't wireless charging generate lots of heat... mm it's gonna be a cause of fires
reef patrol
I mean... we have standards for that reason, NGH ๐
reef patrol
It's kind of ironic...
It took me 7 minutes to clone my entire 1TB drive over to my new 4TB one. But copying 120GB of games from one to another takes twice as long ๐
old marlin
Couldn't be a lot of data if it took 7 minutes 
reef patrol
About 600 gigs
old marlin
So you had a transfer speed of over 1GB/s?
reef patrol
May have taken a bit more xD
But it was still a hell of a lot faster.
Cloning is so much faster since files aren't files. It's just an endless stream of data.
old marlin
Yup
reef patrol
It's not a bad performer for the target audience.
reef patrol
MP400 the 4TB model. QLC but for gaming? More than enough.
old marlin
My laptop does ~3400 MB/s read
ashen spindle
SLC cache?
reef patrol
I'd honestly only grab TLC at this point for video editing.
old marlin
Would probably be faster if i swapped it with better drives
ashen spindle
damn thats a lot
reef patrol
It has a 4GB DRAM cache though
old marlin
I'd personally would only get wd blue 3d nand for sata
Even if they are QLC
Wouldn't get QLC for important data though
reef patrol
Mhmm.
wheat plume
how I install mongoDB on arch? cause I followed a guide on how to install from source and the scons commands wouldnt work
old marlin
How tf can 4G be this bad fml
Can't even use discord properly
But instead of fixing it berlin or frankfurt get 5G now, wowee
wheat plume
reef patrol
Welp. It's done.
Now to power down and unplug the SATA SSDs ๐
crisp granite
what?
do you have multiple installs of COD Modern Warfare (2019) just to fill them a bit?
and nearly 8 TB of storage?
those can't all be SSDs
crisp granite
me with my one TB SSD
crisp granite
I'm saving for an 8 TB NVME drive
$1650 CAD on amazon
my whole PC costs that much
reef patrol
I'm a lazy git who installs large gaem xD
ashen spindle
I bet tino is one of the weird people who deletes stuff on his SAVES
reef patrol
Oh god... I don't dare look at my Appdata or documents folders for game saves and screenshots.
crisp granite
the last time I fiddled with a save, bad shit happened
warning to all
don't do it
reef patrol
There we go. Cut down my games down to 900GB
reef patrol
I mean... got about 4TB space. But sure ๐
neat oriole
I recently bought a 2TB 970 evo to replace my current boot drive
Cloned my boot drive but it wouldnโt boot up
reef patrol
Definitely a bad clone then.
Acronis has never failed me personally. Buuuut it's not free.
neat oriole
I used macrium
I re-cloned it and it still didnโt work
So for the time being Iโve got an expensive paper weight
reef patrol
I love how Acronis isn't just 1:1. It fixes minor boot issues and adjust partitions it can read with some sense of intelligence. Has saved my ass many a time with customer laptops ๐
I mean... you could just install Windows fresh and copy everything over? Some games and apps might need a reinstall and such, if you don't selectively copy over appdata.
neat oriole
I could but Iโm just too lazy
I was also thinking I could probably let windows restore from my existing boot drive
reef patrol
crimson wigeon
Just rsync everything over and fix up your bootloader oh wait Windows makes things more complex
neat oriole
Are you trying to sell me Linux?
crimson wigeon
But just copy everything over and make sure you have an EFI system partition handy and use recovery media to make it properly bootable
ashen spindle
reef patrol
RIP...something just nuked my BCD. Can't boot into windows or repair it. It's going to be a fun evening. 
ashen spindle
pale sigil
Impressive https://youtu.be/aQ22I9WGIvw
pale sigil
Itโs not that hot
crisp granite
perfect
crisp granite
any console gets super hot when you play a demanding game
crisp granite
it'll worsen over time
ashen spindle
pretty sure the power draw is about the same if not lower than xbox one
crisp granite
what games do that?
pale sigil
Gears
crisp granite
yes, the graphics are dated
and were when the game launched
and yes, it is a mess of bugs and glitches
but it's an alright fallout game
and it's the most recent fallout game to date
reef patrol
RIP...something just nuked my BCD. Can't boot into windows or repair it. It's going to be a fun evening.
And we're back! That took fucking forever to get sorted.
Still not sure how, but suddenly my Windows drive was assigned as E: instead of C:
ashen spindle
black magic
speaking of memory chips
wonder what that deal entails, doesn intel even have something thats worth that much?
Optane is from a joint venture with Micron so that shouldn't be in this deal
feral jolt
3d nand
I think intel has an interesting idea for stacking a lot of layers
Not sure where other companies are but looks like they were going for 144 layers stacked
wheat plume
Android 11 added some code to make mobile data faster? cause mine seems faster than 10
ashen spindle
sure but is stacking alone worth that much? tsmc/samsung have their own workign stacking etc.
wheat plume
I love this!!!
pale sigil
Wish I could go back without having to wipe my os
pale sigil
Them folders 
wheat plume
What xd
pale sigil
Round folders are horrible
crisp granite
u w0t?
pale sigil
Reminds me of god awful jelly bean
wheat plume
I found something actually horrible
pale sigil
wheat plume
pale sigil
Hearts are better than the circle folders and thatโs saying something
zenith sonnet
Is there any procedure to installing new chipset drivers other than hitting install?
Also, I know 20.9.2 has been good to people, and I'm still on 20.8.3, so I'll snatch 20.10.1 real quick
ashen spindle
https://twitter.com/3DCenter_org/status/1318499954227245062 7nm IO-Die for high end? idk what else this could mean
Twitter
not like they can put lower end cpu dies on something thats not 7nm
Also it looks like so Hynix confirmed they bought the Intel NAND business for 9 billion
But not approved yet and takes till 2025
So stock didnโt even move for either of them lmao
fickle ore
wud be fun if 5800x was 7nm IO-DIe and 5700x was 12nm
cursive summit
SK Hynix bought Intel's mem?
What does even still do that is relevant?
Networking? Sure, I guess they are quite good at it
Killer last I heard isn't quite on par with Intel just yet
ashen spindle
intel owns killer
ashen spindle
killer has been using intel chips for lan even before that
ashen spindle
nothing new, they said they chose 4.9ghz to guarantee better bins but could've went for 5ghz boosts
cursive summit
Yeah but that might finally kill those "5GHz when?" memes
Just really need to wait a few months post launch to see how the market is doing
I see this happening
Appleโข๏ธ iCloudPhoneโข๏ธ
Totally iSmart
reef patrol
People will whine about anything.
Be green, you wrong.
Be not green, you wrong.
Not that Apple is remotely green ๐
cursive summit
Since when did people even start caring for the environment on this scale?
ashen spindle
years?
cursive summit
Last I heard we had normal packaging, this is a first
Now we are going apeshit for a charger (even though it is actually justified)
Dunno I've never quite heard such a scandal since 3.5mm jack
ashen spindle
... the charger has nothing to do with environement
apple just uses that as an excuse
cursive summit
Cost savings huh?
ashen spindle
eu regulations
cursive summit
EU says we can't have chargers anymore?
ashen spindle
apple doesnt want to comply so they instead remove it
cursive summit
So what exactly does the EU regulation say?
ashen spindle
charging port standard so you have one way of charging all phones, and not ever single brand has their own charger that only works with their phone
cursive summit
Hol' up is EU standard now the USB-C?
ashen spindle
think so, not 100% sure if that is the one
cursive summit
Dunno their lightning connection was always weird
Apple just likes to stand out from the crowd
reef tundra
Apple likes to vendor lock-in
reef patrol
I'll give Apple one thing though. The hook on the lightning ports is really satisfying.
thick elk
Not to defend apple but the lightning connector predates usb-c by a decent margin and was a good step forward over micro-usb the competition used.
Sure it's their own standard but originally there was a clear reason why they wanted it.
Just kind of silly that they keep the lightning jack alive for just iphones though.
reef patrol
It's not like they can't change to C and then give people an adaptor dongle.
I mean... It's not like Apple has ever sold dongles.
thick elk
A switch to usb-c has been rumored for ages. I really wonder what's keeping them from unifying even their own ecosystem
crisp granite
me
wheat plume
its not the worst
crisp granite
they're an eyesore
wheat plume
wish the folder in the file explorer looked like this
what emoji set is windows using?
ashen spindle
man you ask questions I didn't even know people think about
wheat plume
:')
cause the channel names have all the emoji in this font
I was missing the #๐ธโmemes emoji for ages, cause its not in the noto sans emojis
ashen spindle
also you ask a lot of questions google can tell you before you can even properly type it out as a question
"windows emoji set" hit enter
wheat plume
also you ask a lot of questions google can tell you before you can even properly type it out as a question
@ashen spindle I did google it
no good
wheat plume
ashen spindle
if you use bing or something then you might need to look further than the first result idk
wheat plume
segoe UI emoji font... aha
I used this guide
but I wanna install segoe font to get the full set
Twitter + open source??? what
thick elk
twitter made the bootstrap framework, so yea they are active in the open source world
ashen spindle
yes lana, there are more people doing open source than just linus torvald himself
wheat plume
I know
xd
but I never expected Twitter to make a globally used web framework
not surprised its open source, im surprised its by twitter
thick elk
originally yes
wheat plume
not now?
ivory geyser
Lana, Facebook made React - the world's most popular JS framework; also OpenSource.
I dont think I even need to mention VScode and Microsoft.
wheat plume
facebook...react... oh
I dont think I even need to mention VScode and Microsoft.
@ivory geyser not surprised by that
thick elk
the thing with languages and frameworks, at larger scales open sourcing it helps everyone.
ashen spindle
Kubernetes and TensorFlow come mostly from google
thick elk
to be fair google is know for a decent number of open source projects
wheat plume
looks like this in noto sans emoji font....
crimson wigeon
I'm boring and just Noto, do remember to force the "color" variant if you're into that
thick elk
I doubled down on that style and went for symbola.
Now I have 0 colored emoji's in my font
ashen spindle
I'm big fan of default
thick elk
this is how mine look
ashen spindle
I like how the coffin really just looks like a fish to me
cursive summit
I know this is political
But Chinese PSN users must abide by these laws
And holy shit this is just bad
crisp granite
bruh
ashen spindle
yup, can't use the classic firewall for consoles so they force consoles to do this or cant be sold
old marlin
all but one point also apply in germany in a similar fashion
although not enforced as harshly
ashen spindle
ye the wording and severity is different
thick elk
I have no problem with console makers doing this per se. It's not up to them to fight china. But yea hong-kong is pretty much fucked.
cursive summit
Has been for a long time
I have a bunch of Hong Kong Chinese friends
They all say the same thing, HK is sadly done for
And most people are planning on leaving the city for UK ๐
cursive summit
Nah Taiwan will be fine
I am quite sure of.it
Taiwan gets attacked, U.S and most other nations will definitely step in
Taiwan's quite an important place economically
ashen spindle
sure if they do it now, but what stops them from slowly undermining it etc.
dont think it will happen like next year or so
cursive summit
Afaik Taiwan has a pretty good leadership
Democrats rule there, unlike in Hong Kong
But obviously who knows
They better not touch Japan
Japan has a history of fucking up China
tender sparrow
I wouldn't worry too much considering China are losing a war to India at the moment
reef tundra
What do you mean, China tell that taiwan is China. They wont lie and just casually annex some areas like tibet, taiwan or something. That would be so weird. almost as weird as human rights existing
reef patrol
Time will tell. I for one hope HK will become independent again one day.
Because damn China. You oppressive.
crisp granite
I wouldn't keep my hopes up
china gets to directly control HK in 2047 I think
whether or not a deal between HK and mainland is reached
reef patrol
They already control it.
crisp granite
but they can crack down and treat it like any other city in 2047
until then, it's special
reef patrol
They already did. Twice.
HK citizens can't speak up anymore after the most recent coup/law changes. Straight to mainland prisons.
So...the democratic process is dead.
ashen spindle
2 days till intel earnings call, who wants to bet about more 10/7nm delays 
crisp granite
I bet 2 beers that 10 and 7nm are delayed again
ashen spindle
Well thatโs a wash then I guess, 10nm is somewhat working finally at least
crisp granite
working well enough to fab chips to sell?
ashen spindle
Tiger lake is not vaporware
ashen spindle
smh
cursive summit
Tiger lake looks underwhelming
Just saw a guy review Dell XPS 13 11th gen edition
Thing runs at 100 degrees at 45W
Like WHAT
45W 100 degrees celsius?
crisp granite
that's the power of 10nm by intel
cursive summit
10nm?
Inb4 the fucking 10nm is just 14nm with another + on top
Wait it can't be
Cause it already is on 10nm++
These damn idiots love adding pluses don't they
crisp granite
I remember them saying that their 14nm superFET or whatever was on par with 10nm
ashen spindle
ehh, it;s super fin and its the name for 10nm++
crisp granite
or 14+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
ashen spindle
so they move a way from ++++++ namings
crisp granite
same thing
ashen spindle
no it's actually 10nm variant
crisp granite
oh
cursive summit
We know you are a sekrit Intel employee Quintosh, stop lying, it's just 14nm
ashen spindle
and given tiger lake was basically designed for 2017 it's doing quite well
crisp granite
Vexx, I'd wait for reviews, driver updates and other laptops with beefier cooling solutions first
the XPS line is supah slim
cursive summit
I'm waiting for the Lenovo 9i reviews
And then picking it up
Lenovo had me sold with Ice Lake, they better have me sold with Tiger Lake
ashen spindle
Tiger lake is fine, it's just only now coming to market in Q4, Q1 we should see laptops with zen3 cpus so it's just outdated already then
but for now its a fine option
cursive summit
Unless USB4 is with the Zen 3 lineup it's still sadly Intel for me
ashen spindle
guess that will mostly depend on the laptop makers
cursive summit
USB4's as far as I know completely read for implementation right?
ashen spindle
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
cursive summit
That'd be Ryzen's only chance to claim ultrabooks
USB4
I want thin and light but also I want heavy perf with Thunderbolt
If Ryzen has that, bye Intel
If not, sorry AMD not yet
neat oriole
Hong Kong was never independent. Itโs just been constantly changing hands.
neat oriole
To reduce the sunโs effect on climate change, we pushed the earth slightly further away from the sun. As a result, we had to add a couple of days to the end of each month.
Itโs also frozen large chunks of the ocean and cut off sections of the thermohaline circulation
cursive summit
First of, 2120?
Second of, there won't be June in 2120
35th? Thought in 2120 it would be 32 days per month
reef patrol
feel likes theres several things wrong here
@fair gull Yes - Because the futuristic date is what makes you pause. Not the flying cyberpunk CGI drone ๐
Hong Kong was never independent. Itโs just been constantly changing hands.
@neat oriole It had a LOT of independence up until last year however.
fair gull
thats from cyberpunk?
fair gull
now im confused
cursive summit
HK has had a good share of independence
fair gull
how am i the bad one here
ashen spindle
cdpr made a genre? insane
reef tundra
yes
cursive summit
Colonial times were alright I think for the HK
reef patrol
cursive summit
Especially just after UK's retreat, HK has done very well I think
reef tundra
only after China got to it
neat oriole
Hong Kong had some level of autonomy between last year and when it was formally returned to China in 97โ but it was never independent
reef patrol
Again I don't remember claiming so ๐
neat oriole
Time will tell. I for one hope HK will become independent again one day.
@reef patrol โindependent againโ
reef patrol
.... touchรฉ
It was basically independent though up until last year. Minimal interference from China.
Not quite Taiwan levels but mostly "eh... let them do their thing. People enjoy buying taxfree electronics" ๐
neat oriole
It was more or less a transitional period between being under Britain and now China
reef patrol
On paper - perhaps.
neat oriole
Taiwan and Mainland China are more or less still in a civil war sorta so thereโs that
ashen spindle
On paper we also have a good nvidia launch :p
thick elk
As far as I know late colonial rule was not very involved
reef tundra
Technically HK is indipendent-ish if you ask china
reef patrol
If you ask China they also rule the entire sea east of china ๐
neat oriole
Itโs a special autonomy zone or w/e they called it
reef patrol
A claim... the other countries don't exactly share.
reef tundra
Untill you look at the reality
neat oriole
Just like Macau
cursive summit
It's as special autonomy as Tibet
thick elk
Anyway china needed Hong Kong as an intemediary to the west.
reef tundra
Lets just disband china
thick elk
As far as Tibet is concerned while chine sure has not been too good for the tibetans after their conquest, Tibet certainly was not a model state before.
reef tundra
They will never see us coming with their firewalls
And then we press the big red button and china no more
neat oriole
Taiwan and Mainland China is more like NK and SK except theyโre both competent economically
reef tundra
NK IS BEST KOREA
cursive summit
Except NK is technologically and economically eclipsed by SK
reef tundra
SK HAS KPOP CRINGE
cursive summit
China's economy and technology is honestly, quite booming
reef tundra
PLease ignore food and everything else
cursive summit
Taiwan is doing bits, but it's not China
neat oriole
Yeah theyโre pushing pretty hard
cursive summit
Tencent
neat oriole
Taiwan does have modern computing by the balls tho
cursive summit
They ain't getting my ten cents but Tencent is what it is
neat oriole
TSMC is hyuuuuge
reef tundra
China just asumes control over taiwan while they cant do anything to assert the claim
neat oriole
Again, the civil war between them never officially ended so
reef tundra
Taiwan respectfully tells them to suck dick
cursive summit
I feel like if America and most western countries stopped supporting China economically, it'd be much easier for everyone
neat oriole
Only if people are willing to pay a ton more for stuff
reef tundra
That has changed a lot
thick elk
Taiwan also still officially claims pretty much all of china also mongolia and a littlbe bit of russia
reef tundra
it doesnt vary too much, its mostly because the investments have been made
neat oriole
A lot of other SEA countries are starting to do more fab work
I think the only party that claimed that is the old KMT
The old rivals to the CCP
reef tundra
LE MAO
neat oriole
I think most parties just want to be fully independent from Mainland China
cursive summit
Isn't Taiwan historically actually the "Real" China?
cursive summit
There can be only one
reef tundra
The real china is the one that broke and molded itself together for like thousands of years
neat oriole
Early 20th Century politics in China was a mess
thick elk
Basically after the ROC lost the war they retreated to taiwan which was still a Japanese colony at the time
neat oriole
Yeah pretty much
thick elk
before japan it was mostly chinese and before that it was dutch for a brief period
neat oriole
Mao rallied the peasants and they kicked the KMT off of Mainland and onto Taiwan
Itโs your classic civil war stuff
thick elk
Alternate history where the communists lost would have been interesting as it would have some major implications for the cold war
neat oriole
Some people donโt view the CCP as the legitimate government because theyโre generally terrible but they do have far more support than the KMTs ever did
cursive summit
Mao the exterminator
reef tundra
Boomers smh
cursive summit
Oh boy Stalin pales in comparison to this lad
thick elk
Took some time before the prc got its recognition, long after the old regime lost relevance
neat oriole
Mao is a big 
thick elk
There is a difference between stalin and Mao, mao killed mostly by very stupid plans. Stalin because he was paranoid
cursive summit
I would genuinely like to see the current PRC body count of people killed, abused, and who had their life destroyed in various ways
neat oriole
Mao was very much paranoid during his late years
reef tundra
He was legitititly schizophernic
neat oriole
Mao saw his influence fading so he kicked off the cultural revolution
Which turned out horribly
Not for him tho
thick elk
It's still different from murdering anyone who opposes you potentially on t he scale stalin did.
Still the end result is also very gruseome
reef tundra
Stalin didnt kill that many people, mostly his subordinates like beria"stalins himmler"(as introdused to hitler) were at fault
cursive summit
We don't talk about Tiananmen? No?
neat oriole
Yeah why would a guy be standing in front of something like that anyway
cursive summit
Just short for Chinese tank designation
reef tundra
That would be dumb, dont do that. but that would never happen
cursive summit
It was an ad for foreign markets
"Safest road-viable tanks: Only in china!"
400IQ marketing from Chinks
reef tundra
The best vihicle to keep save from stray pedestrians!
neat oriole
Those who arenโt allowed to learn from history are doomed to repeat it
cursive summit
I honestly love this one video, some reporter guy was walking around in some meetup
And he was asking Chinese politicians about Tiananmen and things like that
reef tundra
Just dont do the bad thing lmao
cursive summit
Their faces were so fucking amazing
reef tundra
We will die, wont we?
cursive summit
Just complete silence and you can see them run off
reef tundra
Rat attack
ashen spindle
damn 5100 rated sticks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwaLdq9lZZw
also wow, it took an unboxing video for BZ to make it just shy of 24 minutes :p
thick elk
Indeed, just watched it
they are basically 16gb sticks limited to 8gb, which is also interesting.
ashen spindle
they might be* dont think he confirmed it yet
thick elk
He confirmed it in the comments
ashen spindle
Ah
zenith sonnet
What about people that buy for multiple end users, like people that have a family and more than 1 PC in their home?
Seems like a not very well thought out limitation
crisp granite
it really is
what if I want to buy 50, and flip most of them?
that's bad
because 40-something people are left cardless
but it's cool, because "I got my card and sweet money off of flipping the rest", right?
ashen spindle
wat
zenith sonnet
Nobody ever got 40 cards, when there were like 5 per region
crisp granite
yeah
let 5 people enjoy those cards
as opposed to one person being an opportunistic vulture
ashen spindle
ah cards, I was missing the content
crisp granite
scalpers are scum
and, @zenith sonnet it makes sense, but that is in place to shut down most people's bots
because the bots used are made with one set of info
so that at most, a person can get one card
zenith sonnet
Bots can easily use different information
crisp granite
if you really want more, use your family's info, with their permission
and get as many as you and your family will use
zenith sonnet
Guess my wife has a different e-mail address as well
urban lynx
well. just order one to you at work address, and then order one to you family at home.
solved, yes?
obviously different paying too
zenith sonnet
Can't order to my workplace, lol
Could try my Grandma, though
Buy it really is a unnecessary hassle
halcyon moss
is packetloss normal? im not sure, i have no way of monitoring this atm
zenith sonnet
I used this website
I'm not sure if it is, tbh
Normally it should be 0%, I guess
halcyon moss
Do i need to create an account?
halcyon moss
hm :/ effort :p
wheat plume
:')
reef patrol
cursive summit
6900XT
80 CU (5120 Stream Processors)
2330MHz Boost Clock (2040MHz Game Clock)
16GB GDDR6 @ 16Gbps
6800XT
72 CU (4608 Stream Processors)
2250MHz Boost Clock (2015MHz Game Clock)
16GB GDDR6 @ 16Gbps
6800
64 CU (4096 Stream Processors)
2150MHz Boost Clock (1815MHz Game Clock)
16GB GDDR6 @ 16Gbps
6800 better costs 399
And is 2080Ti level of perf
halcyon moss
wait for reviews :p
crimson wigeon
Will do!
zenith sonnet
If a 6800 with those specs doesn't soundly beat a 2080 Ti, something's wrong
I call 500โฌ for the 6800, 600โฌ for the 6800 XT
ashen spindle
I think it will be at least easier to get bc not many people want to buy amd over nvidia becuause of a lackluster release the last years (who can blame them tbf)
cursive summit
RX 5700 is quite awesome, I'll hold on to it
ashen spindle
sure, after drivers settled down, after you could get a non reference shit design etc.
zenith sonnet
What happened to Navi 20, btw?
6900 XT is full fat Navi 21...
ashen spindle
definitely not on launch lmao
fathom pasture
is there any company that sells bare gpus (no cooler assembly)?
if i'm gonna install a waterblock anyway, i don't see a point in paying extra for the cooler
talking about nvidia cards, specifically the 3090
ashen spindle
doubt it, getting one with a waterblock on it might be the closest you get
I think evga or so did it in the past for kingpin cards? but current versions come with an AiO cooler
reef tundra
Only the oem viants. probably by the pallet
urban lynx
i order stuff to my work preferably.
ashen spindle
you aint getting a cooler less gpu even through work
unless you are working at one of the big system integrators I guess
reef tundra
Or you need to commit to buying hunderds of them
reef patrol
This is... pretty damn creepy ๐
AI powered photoshop. You can turn heads, change lighting direction and age/facial expressions.
urban lynx
i actually mean that if i order something, i put my work adress in.
meant as addition to a conversation from earlier.
didnt even read any of your gpu or cooler stuff there
reef tundra
Make a shell company for the tax writeoff
ashen spindle
crimson wigeon
Suomi mainittu
misty saffron
pretty sure 3090 was meant to be a lot more powerful
zenith sonnet
3090 is mostly about having more VRAM
halcyon moss
which is desirable for compute tasks
zenith sonnet
6800 XT vs 6900 XT can't be more than 10% going by the leaked specs
Which I think is a rather small difference
If AMD teased the 6800 XT, then the 6900 XT will end up in the middle between the 3080 and the 3090
Guess that's out best case
I really doubt they've shown anything below the 6800 XT
misty saffron
which is desirable for compute tasks
which dlss is, so gaming as well
halcyon moss
does that have a high mem requirement?
ashen spindle
dlss? yesn't
lower start resolution so you need less than if you were to render at the native resolution
idk how it works in any specific case but it shouldn't be a lot more than what the native render would use
urban lynx
if it took the same as native, why would you use it in the first place?
ashen spindle
because you dont care about the memory usage usually
dlss is more for a fps increase than memory reduction
zenith sonnet
To offset the performance loss of Nvidia's premature push for RTRT
reef patrol
Anyone know how Bing keeps sneaking in search results into CHROME? It's removed as a search engine.
ashen spindle
seems like an entry from your browser history
reef patrol
Lemme try clearing all of my caches.
And gone... huh. Not sure how they got in there to begin with. Very weird.
fair gull
mansen exposed as a bing user
wheat plume
Modern file explorer UwU
crisp granite
that can't be windows
wheat plume
it be
wheat plume
:')
crisp granite
tis is archbuntwo or something
crimson wigeon
That's always been in, it's a remnant from mobile
crisp granite
welcome to windows
fair gull
oh its the crappy touch explorer
@wheat plume so click the blue link
to only sign into that app?
wheat plume
I disabled the checkbox and the blue link also
Black = Dark brown according to Microsoft
ashen spindle
" I hate it asks me how to manage my stuff" what
you want it to have some default version that you then complain about how it's not the one you want?
fair gull
ya it shouldnt have asked and just done it
wheat plume
LOL NO
crisp granite
we get it
it's really hard to go from an OS that beats the shit out of you in the startup to an OS that babysits you the whole time
wheat plume
huh
fair gull
well mac is even worse imo
fair gull
are u big sure about that?
wheat plume
or knowlegde to create a VM
fair gull
and just do a vm
crisp granite
hackintoching time!!!!!!!!
fair gull
download a premade vm
wheat plume
idk how to hackintosh a VM of it :') also Id need an AMD GPU to enable passthrough so its not major laggy
crisp granite
hackintoching is installing macOS onto a custom pc
it's a pain in the ass to research compataility
vm's should be easier
fair gull
isnt a vm just a custom virtual pc
crisp granite
yup
emulation, kinda
@wheat plume try this: https://www.hackint0sh.org/how-to-install-macos-on-virtualbox/
wheat plume
ive seen videos already
wheat plume
but I am not able to do GPU passthrough because I have nvidia card
also I just dont know how
crisp granite
do you have an intel iGPU?
crisp granite
it's an "f" SKU?
wheat plume
huh?
ashen spindle
its a 3600
reef patrol
Ryzen
reef patrol
It's... a 3600 xD
crisp granite
Discrete means separate gpu
reef patrol
Doge. You need to read up on CPUs if you're going to help people with stuff like this ๐
wheat plume
amd discrete graphics then?
@crisp granite GTX 1660
ashen spindle
she said like 3 times she has a nvidia card
wheat plume
yes, AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU... odd pairing choices
reef patrol
Naw.
crisp granite
not really
reef patrol
Just not apple friendly ๐
wheat plume
I need to try out Clear Linux
Apparently it works better on AMD CPU than Intel CPU
Despite Clear is made by Intel.....
Actually, I was going to use this second SSD for Clear but I installed Windows on it instead for just a single game I wanted to play
ashen spindle
almost like clear linux is mostly made for server side usage and the desktop usage doesn't really mayyer
fair gull
but
intel is still rather good serverside
amd sometimes has issues with disk reading/writing at super high performance situations
wheat plume
it heavily relies on flatpak for software, I see
most apps I searched for is a flatpak
ashen spindle
https://www.igorslab.de/das-koennen-amds-radeon-rx-6800xt-boardpartner-karten-mit-werks-oc-vielleicht-ein-kleiner-blick-in-bios-verraet-die-details/ ah nice, powertool already seems to work with navi21 so you can tweak your gpus on release, nice
will be interesting how much you can do with OC/UV this generation
crisp granite
if true, this will be crazy
ashen spindle
if what is true?
crisp granite
the OC potential
ashen spindle
I don't think the article mentioned anything about oc potential
ashen spindle
yes that's boost clocks they got, not base or sustained
crisp granite
bruh
ashen spindle
not one you see a lot
crisp granite
yeah
wheat plume
aha <3
ashen spindle
either way, doesn't relate in any way, will still be good marketing options "navi2 starts where ampere ends" with the frequencies :p
crisp granite
that could be good marketing material
cursive summit
Finally my biggest question I had was answered
crisp granite
but if it's like the FX-9590, with stupid clocks for bragging rights, it'll be bad
cursive summit
Lana is in fact a she
wheat plume
?
cursive summit
This is a revelation like no other
I dunno Quintosh called you a "she" so I'll roll with it
Calling you mister/miss is tiring
ashen spindle
I mean you could've just asked directly lmao
crisp granite
?
cursive summit
Can't risk it
cursive summit
That's how life works no?
urban lynx
is that why you dont talk to me? ๐ค
crisp granite
Vexx is special
wheat plume
indeed
crisp granite
"yukino-chan" levels of special
urban lynx
who is yukino?
wheat plume
fairytail
cursive summit
Aaanyways, I heard R5 3600 being mentioned
wheat plume
:PP
wheat plume
quick topic change
cursive summit
Fairy Tail is mainstream trash
wheat plume
true
ashen spindle
cursive summit
So what was this about 3600?
cursive summit
Yeah Lana, cause it was either 3100 or 3600 for her
Kinda still borderline upset about her choice but hey not my money
Rn I'm looking into HP Reverb G2
crisp granite
?
cursive summit
So yeah it's their VR device
ashen spindle
mostly known for making shit printers
crisp granite
*overpriced shit printers
cursive summit
And afaik mediocre monitor panels
urban lynx
fairy tail couldnt keep my attention tbh
crisp granite
same
cursive summit
I didn't mind Fairy Tail's story, but it had that constant "oversexualization" factor
I dunno but that particular thing doesn't stick with me
crisp granite
I use eyebleach after each bingewatching session
cursive summit
Characters were a bit on the duller side
Some of them were good, like Erza
But it's same shit like One Piece
Too long, too little novelty
urban lynx
totally isnt at episode 759 of one piece atm
cursive summit
Rn it's close to 1000th episode
urban lynx
i been catching up from episode 0 in january tbh
cursive summit
Manga's even more advanced
ashen spindle
I hope you skipped the filler episodes
urban lynx
the only thing i skipped at some point was this long long ring island foxy davy back fight BS desaster.
cursive summit
Is One Piece's fillers as bad as Boruto?
urban lynx
after like the first fight i was already frustrated, then they started another, and i read up there is 3 of these. and that just made me go "fuck this."
ashen spindle
ye that foxy thing had some fillers that were really weird iirc
urban lynx
honestly worst arc so far
ashen spindle
ye
urban lynx
also in the dressrosa arc, (about episode 700) i really started noticing this drawn out pacing issue everyone talks about lately
like i probably could have skipped 2 episodes, and still know exactly what happened by the extensive minutes long flashbacks at the start of each episode.
ashen spindle
yeah they tried to make the episodes longer to not make a filler arc there because they were close to the latest chapters iirc
urban lynx
also crazy to think i just skipped like 7 minutes into the episode of its 25 minutes, and not even miss the title card.
ashen spindle
more important things? HERESY!
urban lynx
i'm also getting big annoying vibes from the zou arc already.
i can feel the drawn out episodes approaching me once more again.
cursive summit
I dunno why he keeps referring to some general sausages as anything special
You can buy this shit locally anywhere
The good kind is hand made
crisp granite
exactly
ashen spindle
ye I only read it nowadays so idk how much they draw out the episodes
crisp granite
@cursive summit why do you think I make my own?
ashen spindle
dont have enough time with how many series I watch/read already lmao
cursive summit
I don't care enough to make my own, but I know places that do
And it's godly
Dunno you can eat the meat itself without anything else, it's that good
Won't fulfill you much but who cares about that?
urban lynx
honestly considering switching to manga instead too. because fuck this with the pacing
ashen spindle
yeah that's in the trash
cursive summit
Yeah you're now in the trash