Android tablets have been shitshow for a while now as the tablet interfaces have all been removed so it's just useless blown up phone interfaces
#🔌│tech
crimson wigeon
wheat plume
why do people think the RTX 3000 series will be so cheap?
claims between 150 - 400 range
wtf?
ashen spindle
?
reef patrol
Depends on which card 😉
wheat plume
this
reef patrol
The 1660 launched at 219
ashen spindle
sounds accurate?
reef patrol
It isn't farfetched
ashen spindle
... did you think they are just not releasing any cards below 500 and not cash in on that market?
wheat plume
I guess
reef patrol
I mean there's a reason why they're releasing top to bottom, not bottom to top 😄
They want a portion of customers to grab a card higher than they would otherwise.
ashen spindle
higher margins on that and they tape it out first for server cards anyway
and a launch of "new" stuff that is just worse than what you can get already is a bit weird
wheat plume
is the 3070 cheaper but much better than the 2080?
ashen spindle
yes
ashen spindle
???
reef patrol
ashen spindle
that is literally happening ever time new hardware comes out
reef patrol
To be expected, yes.
halcyon moss
i hate that rip 2080 meme, like quintosh said, happenes every time
sounds like teenagers
halcyon moss
2 smoll drives
halcyon moss
the whole 2 games taht fit on it :p
reef patrol
Oh honey... 90GB is nothing.
halcyon moss
apparantly the new COD is so large.. its becomming an issue
well not so new anymore by now
reef patrol
Modern Warfare is like 110GB. RDR2 is also above a hundred.
crisp granite
bruh, a game is small if it's less than 100gb now
harsh grail
@ashen spindle yo i just figured something out, when i try to press anything it all has analog input on tyhe keyboard but my caps lock thats binded with 2 colors it doesnt respond. it just like stays one color and goes into caps with digital keys off/on if that helps u know why it wont give my game any input
i cant type with it even with digital keys off
ashen spindle
not really, I removed the caps feature for me lul
ashen spindle
yea idk, I dont have a capslock feature so no clue lol
harsh grail
i not talking about capslock bruh
it wont give an input in analog mode with digital keys on or off
harsh grail
where i do
ashen spindle
@reef patrol maybe you know more otherwise
harsh grail
reset
ashen spindle
settings - troubleshoot
reef patrol
I... really don't understand the question.
ashen spindle
it sounds like, if capslock was used then you can't type even with digital keys on on another profile? not too sure
harsh grail
basically on analog keyboard option my keys dont work when typing with digital keys on or off
ashen spindle
so with off it makes sense, because, well, you turned them off lol
harsh grail
but with on
reef patrol
And you haven't unbound the entire keyboard in your analog profiles? 😄
ashen spindle
yay but rip
harsh grail
i still think it was just a keyboard update that stopped it working in gta not gta
ashen spindle
not possible
reef patrol
Do digital keys work on the desktop while in an analog profile?
In a browser and so on.
And do the analog signals show up on https://gamepad-tester.com/
harsh grail
i have the "touch" option on my analog keyboard i can do the thing where i slowly press in keys and bar slowly goes up
and i done that test and it works
reef patrol
That's half of the question answered.
Also we should probably relocate to #archived_helpdesk_for_keyboards for everyone's sanity 😄
vagrant marsh
crisp granite
my 1 tb ssd will not fare well
and if developers don't compress games, people just won't play them
no
developers is some retarded shit
not keeping with the times
crimson wigeon
Yes but also I had almost the whole filesystem transparently compressed on a trash PC back in the 90s so it's not some rocket science unless you're doing really fancy compression
misty saffron
pc developers give zero shits about compression
@prisma crag but muh loading times to brag about :(((
crimson wigeon
What if I told you compression can improve loadtimes because there's less data to load from (potentially) slow storage
crisp granite
loading times don't matter if a game is 50 times the size of your OS
misty saffron
software decompressing is slower than loading from ssd, no?
at least 500mb/s decompression doesn't sound as believable as 500mb/s read
crimson wigeon
You better believe it, look at how fast zstd decompresses
misty saffron
til
zenith sonnet
I believe AMD did not show their 'biggest Navi' in the teaser
They're always doing that thing where they end a presentation/announcement showing 'one more thing'
Like they did with the 5950X
crimson wigeon
Yeah my bet is that it's the 3080 equivalent
zenith sonnet
My guess is the 6900 (no X)
neat oriole
I think AMD needs to beat NVIDIA in performance at the same price point by a significant margin to be competitive
ashen spindle
them being the option with lower power for once in a decade will already help
zenith sonnet
They are definitely gonna win the perf/watt crown this round
Ampere is not efficient
crimson wigeon
Yeah I'll believe that when I see it...
zenith sonnet
If they can compete on price/perf as well, they got a huge market already
5700 was the most efficient card before the 3000 series launch
I doubt there will be a 1400$ AMD card
I don't care about price, really
Only price/perf and perf, tbh
ashen spindle
which is nice, I am looking for a 3080 with less than the tdp of a 3080 lol
sure, do the same on nvidia side to get a decent cooler
its a wash
so hope they again have a 6900xt and a 6900 so you can save a little bit to balance taht ¯_(ツ)_/¯
zenith sonnet
I'm gonna need a water block too
ashen spindle
because point me to a non devkit card that does the performance I'd need
unless you can find me the g sync option on that card
doesnt outperform my 1080
I mean, even with a 1080ti I'd be looking to upgrade this generation
ashen spindle
Most importantly, Herkelman stressed that AMD didn’t state which Radeon RX 6000 graphics card ran these benchmarks.
👀
crimson wigeon
Turns out it was actually the weakest card in that lineup!!!!
ashen spindle
praying they remember to not do a bullshit "jebaited" again bc if this is true it will be nice, if it's a PR blunder AGAIN then idk maybe I'll eat a amd marketing person or something
zenith sonnet
They said big Navi, so it has to be at least some form of Navi21 SKU
urban lynx
big navi...
slowly starts to sound like some mafia nickname of a big fat guy that is a very good driver or something
like, a fat ass smuggler guy in the family
ashen spindle
papa navi offers you a deal you cant refuse
cursive summit
Aight lads
The PC got worse sadly
Before, PC after restarting due to BIOS changes would not Post
Would require a hard reset by turning off electrical power
Now, any sort of system restart (Windows updates or even a regular restart) has a good chance of failing to post
Thanks ASUS..
Do I really need a new mobo? 
Just did a restart again cause the mouse wouldn't function
PC isn't posting
ashen spindle
have you checked if a bios reset helps or if the cmos battery is still good?
cursive summit
I don't quite know much about CMOS stuff
How do I check the battery?
Yeah I don't own one 
ashen spindle
well, reset bios first
wheat plume
Is that the image I sent or so we have the same bios?
ashen spindle
so try if that fixes it
cursive summit
Ain't this standard ASUS bios
wheat plume
they are ;-;
Im surprised that a VM is a thing that can happen though
an entire PC inside another one
wheat plume
didnt use my laptop this entire week
I now have 600mb of updates to install
cursive summit
Tho I feel like going for Linux Mint was a mistake
Feeling like Ubuntu is simply better
Far more supported
ashen spindle
ye so far ubuntu just works for all I need
wheat plume
if its supported for Ubuntu
its supported for Mint too
they are almost the same apart from the desktop
run the same package manager and whatnot
except mint doesnt like snap packages
cause not many people do like them
ashen spindle
yeah but then you need to check which version of ubuntu mint uses etc. like if ubunut 20 doesnt work but ubuntu 18 does etc.
wheat plume
ahh true
ashen spindle
so might as well just stick with ubuntu directly
ashen spindle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/119418681317916674/764215865096667166/64751489_1288048511364779_6897576868736663552_n.jpg except they are also both shit 
wheat plume
Oh :')
ashen spindle
@fallow bison pls confirm
wheat plume
I dont like how VS Code has rich presense on discord
tells everyone what file you are editing
ashen spindle
then disable it
wheat plume
it doesnt work in Linux I think
cause it barely works when I play a game or whatever
crimson wigeon
I'm pretty sure that feature is an extension that weird people use
wheat plume
:')
reef tundra
THen use neovim in linux instead
also javascript is a fake and a fraud
I use arch btw
mental basin
amd's talks with
xilinx truly is interesting
zen3 was really nice for only two reasons in the gaming world;
- It showed that they clearly know memory latency sacrifice in zen2 was just the name of the game, having one CCX per 8 cores now is good indicator that this is clearly still on their mind
- Lisa su managed to pull off an incredibly strong presentation on a "ok" launch product, made it seem a lot bigger than it was.
I think zen4 without speculating too much will be the real generational leap
mental basin
Convince me, these are just my own personal thoughts after reflecting
I think it was a GOOD jump
the IPC performance increase is not "just" 19%
it's 19% from last gen that already did a huge jump from the previous gen there again
so factoring in "scaling" that's enormous
as an example
ashen spindle
ok now I dont follow, do you think it's a good product or not
in just over a year, AMD’s IPC gains beat out Intel’s 2015-2020 IPC advances.
on the same process node as the previous product
mental basin
I think they 100% could of done way more for zen 3 but tried to hold back as much as possible while still giving very good margins
for the zen 4 generational leap
ashen spindle
you also need to keep in mind the biggest part of zen2 was the rework of the Tage branch predictor
and that was originally planned for zen3
and even without it they still got that much of an ipc uplift
mental basin
Yes - I agree, but it just wasn't the trigger pull for me yet. Especially when I can factor in price performance - however, once I see reviewer benchmarks there is a slight possibility in that changing
as an example, I'm very interested in 5950x for a very strong combined usage of desktop use(content creation) and gaming, by disabling 8 of the cores and only using 1 ccx yet getting the very strong single and multi-threaded performance*
Though one factor that I never really care about which I should is in regards to energy efficiency
that alone should make price differences of $50-100 easily worth it
zenith sonnet
Gotta keep in mind that AMD achieved those 19% without touching the IO-die at all, and using the very same process
ashen spindle
wat
wheat plume
I learned two new things about my pc today
wat
- since I have a single fan GPU, I do NOT need to remove the GPU from the motherboard in order to get access to the sata pins if I wanna add more drives to my PC
- the motherboard has a microphone jack, so now I have an extra free USB 3.1 port and also the mic is plugged in directly at the back of the computer so the cable is out of the way
ashen spindle
I'm very confused how the gpu fan relates to sata pins
wheat plume
actually it wouildnt matter on this motherboard cause its really large so the sata pins are at the very corner quite a bit away from the GPU
true quest
wat
wheat plume
but on my friends motheroard they are much closer together and he had to use the angled saata cable to get access
cause his pins were under the GPU
under the area covered by the edge of the GPU anyway
fickle ore
really really doubt zen 4 will be bigger increase than zen 3
wheat plume
I love my pc case <3
USB 3 ports on the top
Easy af to remove side panels with captive thumb screws
wheat plume
Can remove and reinstall the side panels in like 10 seconds
fickle ore
What makes you think so?
fickle ore
apparently hardware capped at 22CL so latency won't go down until after a few years when we at 6400 or higher
I doubt ddr5 will make a big difference
ashen spindle
latency yes, bandwith goes up
hence, some areas not all
some care about bandwidth
fickle ore
yeah
ashen spindle
servers might get pcie5 too
fickle ore
I don't know if they can keep up 20% increase year over year, it's pretty unheard of, but we will see
ashen spindle
well this one was 19% basically just from design
that includes without Tage branchprediction bc that got pulled into zen 2 already
and without node shrink
fickle ore
ya, I'm guessing zen 4 or whatever comes after zen 3 (maybe refresh) is just node shrink and not such big architectural improvement as zen 3 was
ashen spindle
if its just node shrink you wouldnt need a new socket
fickle ore
now we got 8 core 1 ccx, whats next? cant improve on that really unless they can do 16 core CCX
well you need for ddr5 or pcie 5.0
ashen spindle
different chipset yes, socket not necessarily
pcie5 would be fine, we saw 3->4 work
memory I have no idea
so maybe
but I'd doubt it
fickle ore
iirc memory might require, pcie 4.0 didn't. we don't know yeah. maybe AMD will start tick-tock now too
pale sigil
Anyone here run a server
fickle ore
With the 5800x prices is so annoying, kinda want to wait until DDR5.. ffs 470€ for a dying socket
wheat plume
Should I add some lights into my PC case?
There is exactly 0 in it
Maybe I shouldn't cause I can't see into it anyway when it's on my desk
Cause the clear panel is against the wall
fickle ore
Don't, there's no point
nova carbon
MORE RGB
ashen spindle
sure it's a "dying" socket, so was every single intel socket the lasy years lul
nova carbon
ask nano, least biased person regarding rgb on the discord
ashen spindle
idk, you dont build a pc bc of what you can do in the future with it usually
ashen spindle
sure, but might as well stick on ddr4 and skip first gen ddr5 to avoid early adopter pains
nova carbon
yeah it usually takes a few years for the new dram to stabilize speed wise
nova carbon
and price wise
wheat plume
I don't even want rgb
Just some light source to admire the hardware
nova carbon
use a candle
wheat plume
Lel
ashen spindle
use your phone
wheat plume
I need to rearrange my room sometime
So my desk can be positioned in a way to have the glass side of the case facing me
ashen spindle
just make a sketchy mod to a psu cable, stick phone in case, boom light
wheat plume
Cause rn it's against the wall and I can't see inside the PC on the other side
fickle ore
fuck flashing lights, all they do is give you a headache, look stupid and cost cents in electricity
ashen spindle
something else to consider, if we dont get a new IO die with zen4, we might get a monolithic design for low core count stuff again
which for gaming and such is probably still the best approach
nova carbon
usually the right answer is do you need it/is your comp not cutting it right now? if so its time to upgrade
fickle ore
i7 2600k DDR3
ashen spindle
lul
fickle ore
plays most games at 200+fps toh
ashen spindle
yeah? try crysis in cpu only mode :^)
fickle ore
what is that game? is it multiplayer? 😛
nova carbon
i mean if you dont think your comp performance is an issue then sure maybe wait, 1 yr amd cpu cycles
going from ddr3 all the way to ddr5!
wheat plume
What Intel CPUs use 7nm currently?
And what's the cheapest one?
O.o
Intel aren't using 7nm??!!
pale sigil
Nope
wheat plume
Rip
My Ryzen 5 is!! GG amd
pale sigil
Ye but your ryzen is poop
wheat plume
Nuuuu
Its good
Comes with a really thicc cooler with thermal paste applied also
They call it the wraith stealth but it's not totally silent
My fans already quite loud
Although I sit literally right against the PC
Its so close I just lean a bit and my head rests against it
...
O
misty pier
pliant shard
it appears you might be able to get a cheapo motherboard for 5000 series
and not suffer in any way performance wise
so the extra $50-$100 whatever each cpu tier is than the previous can be saved with a 520
sure
assrock
there are x570's i wouldn't get
probably would take the msi or asus
not go the cheapest fuckin a520 you can
yeah go figure
and south america
aren't those b450's in the $180 range
TUF Gaming B450M-Pro II
hmm
not out yet?
the pro (I) is $100
hmm
apparently ryzen 5000 isn't going to get much from overclocking
vrm requirements won't be so bad
most lie about the quality of it anyway
man
i'd love a 5900X
bit expensive and especially since i have no reason to upgrade
i'd like to pretend i held onto my 8700k for more than a few years
nothing wrong with it, it's always served me well, but the constant hype training wears down on you
even as people get burned from it
you know what feels bad
a god tier 2x8 kit costs less than what i initially bought my ram for
same with a good 2x16 kit
but that stuff just didn't exist 2 years ago
2x8gb 3000mt crucial ballistix meme ram was $190
yeah ddr5
intel claiming support for it in 11th gen i think
probably don't produce it anymore
because it's such an old spec
i think you can get 3600 14-14-14-34
eh
3600 16-19-19-39 is really bad
in terms of numbers
not money
money speaks a different story
but if you have an itx and wanna go ham
and are on intel not amd
you get the trident
and go up to like 4333mt
or something crazy like that
i don't think there's any real info on what ryzen 5000 has for fclk
thought gskill was it
4800mhz cl19
cream of the crop
doubtful ryzen 5000 can get to 2400mhz fclk
they're at around 1900 now?
a few hundred mhz would do a lot of work
at the same time they're trying to minimize how important ram is
with all that cache
there's some random brand i never heard of
that's selling decently high speed ram
4400mt/s 🙁
supply issues
the demand will surely burn out eventually
once everyone gets their hands on big navi, 5000, 11th gen, 3000
it would take an even bigger hypetrain to get them to move on
doesn't feel that crazy
rtx titan
mental basin
memory is so underrated 🤷♂️
biggest bottleneck in modern systems and it's been true for years and years
yet for any semi-enthusiast gamer or gamer with comp aspirations, we keep telling them 3200 17-19-19-39 @ 1.4v xmp'd ram is okay
because "any 3200 stick is fine"
but you can get so much better for possibly cheaper or equal cost, ram gives you a lot of choices lol
pliant shard
i think we keep telling them because
we don't realize how much ddr4 has improved
you get samsung b-die for the price of complete garbage 2 years ago
and for even less than b-die you get very good ryzen kits and very good intel kits that require no tuning
just plug and play, and remember to respect the QVL and memory topology if you need to
mental basin
Yeah, I don't disagree in 2010 as to why it was "negligible" to fork out more money for ram
when cpu and gpu is majority of the benefit
but lately this needs to be taken a new look at lol
I hope you're figuratively speaking ;P
ashen spindle
and the xbox one is not soldered?
reef patrol
You tell me.
ashen spindle
I mean, I dont think you'll see either of them offer a console OS download, which you would need if you could replace the main drive right?
ashen spindle
oh ok
I mean if it's not then you should just be able to use an expansion ssd on the ps5 as the new maindrive then
it is a legitimate concern but till release things like this just smell of coming from xbox-fans etc.
reef patrol
Here's hoping. Would suck to have either console basically be hot metal scrap if the main SSD gives out in 5 years.
crimson wigeon
That's perfect! Just in time for the "Pro" version to become available so you upgrade!
tender sparrow
The upside of consoles is they have resale value
And if you sell before the cycle is up, even just a month or so before, you'll easily make back 70% of the cost
reef patrol
The upside of consoles is they have resale value
@tender sparrow Not if they're dead 😄
reef patrol
Uhh...
Manufacturers sure as shit won't. Third party resellers might bother doing mass BGA re-soldering if they can source new SSDs.
But you'd still have a pricy used product due to the cost of a new SSD.
tender sparrow
We'll see about the SSD solution
Sony keeps bragging about how cheap it is
Personally I don't buy it after the trainwreck that was the Vita
reef patrol
With the exception of the Switch, I only buy consoles that are officially off the shelves.
tender sparrow
The Switch is the only one that can provide what a PC can't
Consoles do have the advantage of the used games market though
PC players are stuck with digital price
reef patrol
Constant sales help there though.
urban lynx
tbf though, sony does seem to follow the pc direction with their download only variant...
also it wasnt that long ago u still had discs for your games...
though by now you do end up registering your games here and there to an account, so the discs get kind of useless
so not the biggest suprise disc are slowly seen as obsolete to pc people
tender sparrow
I've bought and resold console games at breaking even. Occasionally even a profit.
urban lynx
then again. pc doesnt need a downward compatibility, or other stuff to keep playing your games
tender sparrow
Used market will be the only reason I consider a PS5
I absolutely do not want to give Sony a single cent
urban lynx
i mean they probably are mansen, but i dare say not every user or consumer knows how to circumvent the drm stuff on a disc when needed, lol
reef patrol
I missed the "PC" part 😄
urban lynx
lol
reef patrol
Not much ownership there these days for sure. On consoles though.
reef patrol
Yeah that's true.
reef patrol
But uh... I don't think I have ever wanted to play one of my games at a friends' place and not bring thedisc 😄
tender sparrow
As long as you don't buy at launch you'll only pay a little bit to have a collection
urban lynx
on a pc it is far easier just loading a file to keep playing the game / or better, just make a loadable iso copy. lol
tender sparrow
Especially if you sell off unwanted games over time
I can agree with that but you can argue consoles just have the convenience of not worrying about specs or network or anything
Which is completely untrue considering everything has a 69 GB file size and day one patch nowadays
urban lynx
was about to say
tender sparrow
And most console games are terribly optimized
reef patrol
on a pc it is far easier just loading a file to keep playing the game / or better, just make a loadable iso copy. lol
@urban lynx I still have backups of every single disc based game I have ever bought for PC. With patches and cracks included.
Just in case something happens to the disc, or websites with the patches and such shut down some day.
tender sparrow
Again the main draw of a console is cost efficiency
urban lynx
tender sparrow
When the cycle is over you can sell off everything and make a cast majority back
As long as you played smart
urban lynx
uh, how much a ps5 costs?
reef patrol
Consoles make a ton of sense for parents - Especially in these Fortnite days xD
tender sparrow
Snag a few games before the cycle is up during the remaining three or so years
Sell it off a month before the next launch
urban lynx
... tbf, with that money you can build a decent pc alreadx
ashen spindle
sadly with that money you still can't get the console exclusives on pc
tender sparrow
FF7R
ashen spindle
which is the reason why I will get a ps5 at some point
urban lynx
fun fact. my stepdad is annoyed cause his two ps5 orders were cancelled on thursday
ashen spindle
rip
tender sparrow
Two
ashen spindle
but also, why two?
urban lynx
cause he is one of these, play on one, sell second
ashen spindle
tender sparrow
Ah, a fellow capitalist
urban lynx
his (and mine) coworker bought 3.
sorry, preordered 3
(and didnt get cancelled, yet)
tender sparrow
Why is this even allowed
urban lynx
i'm the wrong one to ask
tender sparrow
I worked at Amazon when the Xbox One X launched
Absolute crickets
Some geniuses bought like 10 of them though
The Xbox One X was obviously not the smashing success they hoped
Fortunately for them Amazon has a very generous return policy
reef patrol
urban lynx
oh dear
wheat plume
Oh my
mental basin
All that’s clear is whoever is naming it
Needs to be fired
The names are so awful
shadow minnow
What names?
Xbox one x sounds imo quite good
They wanted to call it other name and it would have been much worse
Although, the series - names are quite bad tbf
strange crystal
Is there a significant difference in input lag between Wooting Two and Wooting two HE tachyon mode?
wheat plume
Intel: "We are the industry leader in gaming"
Also Intel: During the AMD Zen 3 event they just sent out a BLOG POST mentioning they are getting something ready for 2021
ashen spindle
Lana: posts a lot about tech
Also Lana: Doesn't care if what she posts is true
Also Lana: doesnt care to converse when it was found out
reef patrol
What names?
Xbox one x sounds imo quite good
@shadow minnow The sudden increase in Xbox One X sales when the Series X opened up for sales might disagree 😄
Search engines literally can't tell them apart half the time.
shadow minnow
Series x name is pretty confusing
But before it was ok
Also, rise of sales may have been caused by onex getting cheaper
wheat plume
Can you set a drive to automount into a folder in your home directory or does it have to be a folder in the root directory?
cause steam doesnt want to write or read to /games folder I made for it despite being able to set it as a library in steam and steam being able to create a folder in there on its own
crimson wigeon
You can put mounts wherever you want in the filesystem
wheat plume
I got an error when I tried to install a game to the new drive, telling it cant write to the folder
even though when I added that folder as a library it was able to make a folder in it
crimson wigeon
Permissions can be weird like that
wheat plume
I ran sudo chown username:username /games
and steam was able to create a folder
but it cant use it when trying to install a game
crimson wigeon
Make it recursive -R
crimson wigeon
Depends on if there actually is a group with the same name as your username
wheat plume
I think there is
if ran recursively, will it also apply to files and whatnot that arent there yet and get added later?
or just stuff thats there when the command is run
crimson wigeon
Whatevs is there at the time
crimson wigeon
Softwares are usually smart enough to write files with the correct permissions to begin with
wheat plume
true true
wheat plume
It feels bad ;-; having to do something you can do in a language you do know but in a language you dont know
Data Analytics is hard
halp me ;-;
cursive summit
What
The hell am I reading
I'm not sure if it's customary in English speaking countries to word their tests so confusingly
But this is hard to understand
ashen spindle
no its just confusing because we dont know the rest of the stuff that belongs
to it
like what language, what info is in the tables etc.
crimson wigeon
That looks like a python thing
... not that it's very useful to know as we don't have the dataset and such
ashen spindle
I don't because it's literally just taking the average if condition x applies
tawny prism
E-ATX is a trash fire. That is all.
fair gull
easy dont use python
ashen spindle
ok I have no clue about python
but it gives you an error right
so look up what that error means
wheat plume
I solved it
had to use .shape
wait, that gives the rows too, I dont want that
oh, add [1] to it....
nice!
#Number of columns
df = pd.read_csv(csvLocation)
numCols = df.shape
print(numCols[1])
it was complaining that pandas doesnt gave .count()
but it does...its in the documentation -.-
fair gull
well thats why i dont do python
fair gull
i woudl have joinked it
crimson wigeon
Probably might be easier to experiment directly in a python REPL near you so you can abuse tab completions
wheat plume
we got to use google colab for this module
crimson wigeon
Of course some people think such modernities make it too easy and you gotta find out the hard way
wheat plume
we had to use notepad++ for Java in first year
so that way we had to learn the syntax properly and not rely on an IDE
and use JCreator to run it
wheat plume
hhmmm
fair gull
wheat plume
thats a very tony way to solve this
wheat plume
that only applies if you know Python
this is my first time using it
apart from very basic shit in first year for 4 weeks
just got as far as string concat in that
wheat plume
AYYY, me big brain
idk if thats the right number...
oh wait, it is! he shows it in the next question
wait..do you not need print in python to output shit or is that a feature of google colab?
fair gull
thats repl output
it basically shows the result of the last line
last executed line*
wheat plume
how do I get all the values of 1 in the 9th column and find the average of them?
in python
ashen spindle
you look up how you get data from a field
add them
divide by ammount of numbers you added
wheat plume
the problem is
the clear weather is shown by a value of 1 in the 9th column but the bikes hired for that row is in the 16th column
I have a csv file with 16 columns and a few thousand rows
I need to find the average number of bikes hired during clear weather
clear weather is shown by the value 1 in the 9th column and the bikes hired is on the 16th column
ashen spindle
ok so you figure out how to get the values you need by how to do conditional statements and then add the data where it fits
reef tundra
Why does that csv file not contain a header ontop so other people(and future you) can understand what the data is formatted like
fair gull
this sounds like an array filter job
wheat plume
did it
wooooo
df = pd.read_csv(csvLocation,index_col=0,header=None)
averageClear = (df[df[8]==1][15].mean())
see so u know how filters work
wheat plume
barely, I read the docs... and theysuggested a thing like this but not quite this so I assumed I can do another one inside of it
im still now sure how this works
but it works
fair gull
the magic of pythong
wheat plume
UwU
reef tundra
Also interresting how they numbered every entry. like the \n with the text editor dont do this
wheat plume
hm?
fair gull
the what in the where
fair gull
thats called indexing
reef tundra
Useless datapoint
fair gull
no?
reef tundra
every entry has been ended with \n. so the parser can know on which line it reads
fair gull
bruh do u even know how csvs work
the index isnt for the parser lol
the index is for writing sane code
and abusing csv as a database
reef tundra
And good parsers dont even need to know which line it is as streams the csv data
fair gull
im fairly sure the rfc for csv formatting requires a \n
reef tundra
Yes? to seperate the lines?
fair gull
yes the indexes arent for the freakin parser
reef tundra
so the parser knows where the data ends of said entry
fair gull
they are INDEXES
reef tundra
With the same linenumber
fair gull
because this is dummy data for teaching
in reallife they could be whatever
this isnt some professional work stuff
its literally homework
in a professional situation the problem also wouldnt be the index numbers... but that its a database in csv
reef tundra
xml party
fair gull
pfff ini
reef tundra
xml file of 97GB
cus peeps to lazy to let the sensor data not sepererate into new file
crimson wigeon
Probably
ashen spindle
look it's fine to ask for help and I assume nobody has an issue with helping you out on this
but at least spend like a minute thinking about it yourself
wheat plume
I solved it
ashen spindle
and dont just post the question the second you've read it
wheat plume
I just want a second opinion on what "rental users" refers to in this context
is it the number of rentals that day? (column 16)
or is it the count of registered and casual users added into one value?
wheat plume
I have a b550M motherboard, will the upcoming ryzen zen 3 CPUs work in it?
ashen spindle
yes
wheat plume
oo neat
cursive summit
@wheat plume I told you to buy a better card
And a 100$ CPU
You could simply ditch it for cheap
And get a 5000 series one
wheat plume
I dont need any better, it runs Minecraft at 600FPS xd
and Distance at 200FPS
and I need to test GTAV still cause I cant get steam to realise I have it already downloaded in the new lobrary folder I made
I may get BF4 now thats its on steam though! cause I loved that game when I had it on Xbox
reef patrol
crimson wigeon
Turns out it really was just a generation ahead of its time
ashen spindle
extra budget cpu, only hd, idk seems ok-ish
wheat plume
hmmm
ashen spindle
as pc price it would somewhat like this : 250 for gpu, 50 for ssd, 30 for the ram 200 for cpu(?) lets say 150 for screen
so 800 ish you get all that
and thats retail pricing without OEM cost saving
reef tundra
high-end gpu's in laptops are for me too much powerdraw to be usefull.
wheat plume
pliant shard
remember those walmart laptops
8300H/8750H for like $500
that sounded like a real good deal at the time
cursive summit
Never heard of Gateway
rocky stream
im not sure if this is applicable here, i just cant for the life of me find a solution to this
in linux (debian v10.6), just made a chroot for my friend and ive made a user account limited to it.
ive installed screen, but its behaving very weirdly. when im in the chroot, whether im root or a normal user, trying to create a new screen session just immediately terminates with the [screen is terminating] message. ive tried looking the problem up but none of the solutions seem to be working.
if its at all relevant, i used debootstrap stable /chrootdir to install debian
fair gull
have u tried turning ur toaster by 14.67° to the right and then eating 2 slices of toast half way through the toasting cycle. after that you need to fix the feng shui in ur room and also make sure ur ssd is spinning with at least 5400rpm. then you make sure all ur files start with the letters kz and after all of this it should work
if it doesnt just rub some essential oils on the case
reef tundra
chroot is an command that allows you to act like you are some other user with potentially differend groups that it subscribes to.
CHange ROOT.
CHROOT(1) User Commands CHROOT(1)
NAME
chroot - run command or interactive shell with special root directory
SYNOPSIS
chroot [OPTION] NEWROOT [COMMAND [ARG]...]
chroot OPTION
DESCRIPTION
Run COMMAND with root directory set to NEWROOT.
--groups=G_LIST
specify supplementary groups as g1,g2,..,gN
--userspec=USER:GROUP
specify user and group (ID or name) to use
--skip-chdir
do not change working directory to '/'
--help display this help and exit
--version
output version information and exit
If no command is given, run '"$SHELL" -i' (default: '/bin/sh -i').
AUTHOR
Written by Roland McGrath.
REPORTING BUGS
GNU coreutils online help: https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/
Report any translation bugs to https://translationproject.org/team/
COPYRIGHT
Copyright © 2020 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
https://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html.
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by law.
SEE ALSO
chroot(2)
Full documentation <https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/chroot>
or available locally via: info '(coreutils) chroot invocation'
GNU coreutils 8.32 March 2020 CHROOT(1)
rocky stream
i have not tried that
crimson wigeon
Did you bind mount /dev into the chroot
reef tundra
In normal operation chroot is not needed or you have incorrect permissions.
fair gull
@reef tundra chroot literally is just a shell with a special root directory not smth to act as another user
chroot is to keep users from exploring outside their allowed bounds
rocky stream
Did you bind mount /dev into the chroot
@crimson wigeon yes
fair gull
since they cant break out of it
rocky stream
everyone ive seen who has a similar problem on like stackexchange or something its with permissions, but even as root it doesnt work
the chroot behaves normally, its just specifically screen that is wack
fair gull
tbh while i have chroot setup
reef tundra
I have used chroot to take over another install as root of the currently running install.
fair gull
my users dont use screen
reef tundra
Tmux is preferred over gnu screens
crimson wigeon
mount devpts in /dev/pts
reef tundra
isnt pts an virtual terminal?
crimson wigeon
Yes and how do you think programs like screen do it
reef tundra
They bind to the tty
rocky stream
mount devpts in /dev/pts
@crimson wigeon im pretty sure ive done that but
ill try again
fair gull
i thought screen and tmux work based on pseudoterminals
reef tundra
VIM's tabs and splits is more than enough for me
so havent played much with tmux or screens
rocky stream
um, i tried tmux and it just returns "1;01;0c" into the prompt
fair gull
sometimes u just want ur shakes and fidget bot on a remote without it stopping when u dc
reef tundra
try "stty sane"
fair gull
idk what that would fix
the color is chosen by the tool
green means info/success
yellow is warning
crimson wigeon
I just tried and doing the devpts mount while chrooted did magic fixes
fair gull
and red error
reef tundra
it resets the tty to its default values. it can have some setting fucked by some program
crimson wigeon
lolno I just know googling
rocky stream
hmm
reef tundra
use the man
fair gull
depends on the distro i guess
rocky stream
ok i guess i got something wrong then, when i ssh into the chroot it also says not a tty, but if i ssh into an un-jailed user, it says it is a tty
reef tundra
To know wether it is an tty or pts. the command tty will tell you
And dont forget that at default most distros give like 6 tty's to work with changeable(with most) with control+alt+[F1 to F6]
ashen spindle
https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/1314979047156387840 now this is progress I like to see, so unused after the last 5+ years of intel
ashen spindle
also, nvidia shortage might be partly from shortage of g6x? 🤔 https://twitter.com/Avery78/status/1313692643071684610
ashen spindle
you are aware they are using air freight for the cards?
for basically all of 30 series atm
sure they will come on boat once they have enough supply that it's worth putting it on a boat
can't put on boat what doesn't exist yet
solar hinge
I think it needs a cleaning
ashen spindle
idk I can still make out the pc parts so I think thats clean enough
I mean there just isn't enough stock so it makes no sense to put an order of like 50? cards or whatever on a boat
Im not even sure I remember what you are referring to
? he talks about air freight there
probably
it wouldnt make sense to have a shortage because you want to save 5$ shipping on a 800/1600$ product
another AiB would just do air freight and get literally 100% of your customers
ashen spindle
?
I imagine one plane can carry the entire stock nvidia has atm lmao
and just imagine if there is an issue like with the 2080ti, if the MLCC cap would be 100% required for example, you would have thousands of cards on boat, need to then ship them back to fix it? thats not a risk anyone would ever take
crimson wigeon
papyrus launch
wheat plume
I regret not getting a modular power supply, all the extra cables and wires are stuffed inside the HDD bay beside the PSU
so if I suddenly need to have more than 5 drives I cant
wheat plume
yeah, basically, all the cables and things are stuffed in the PSU shroud and HDD bay
semi modular?
crisp granite
cuz I like pain, but not a lot of pain
ashen spindle
yes I know what it is, my question was why you got one
wheat plume
cause not sure, It wont affect me anyway cause I wont need to use the hdd bay
there is another 3 sata ports and 2 free spaces to dock 2.5 inche drives
one behind the motherboard panel where one is already being used and the other using an angled sata cable under the GPU
wheat plume
im shocked that my PC case is SMALL form factor....
its massive
not very wide but massive
ashen spindle
small form factor doesnt really have any definied sizes
wheat plume
wat
crisp granite
other than a community consensus of under 20L
wheat plume
I see....
ashen spindle
the only defined sizes are for motherboard sizes, but that also has areas in E-ATX where its just a mess of sizes
wheat plume
whats that?
ashen spindle
big boards
crisp granite
a motherboard "form factor"
wheat plume
oh? my motherboars is very large....would mine be that?
crisp granite
with no standard sizing or standoff positions
crisp granite
probably not
wheat plume
my board is micro atx
wheat plume
I dont? but its largeer than my friends one cause he thought his was a large board
ashen spindle
what do you think the part "micro" stands for
ashen spindle
wheat plume
oo
ashen spindle
ye but its the only picture at >120pixel
wheat plume
they push audio quality quite a lot on this promo page
also the AURA RGB crap IDC about
crisp granite
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
wheat plume
?
crisp granite
RGB
wheat plume
LEL
crisp granite
jk
wheat plume
its has an AURA rgb connector on it
ashen spindle
thats more how it usually looks like
wheat plume
when they say "exclusive codecs" for audio, I assume they mean the codecs only work on windows?
or maybe they are baked into the board somehow?
ashen spindle
really pushes
two sentences
ashen spindle
if it would be a windows thing why would the board advertise it?....
wheat plume
the audio does sound good though, just a little bit less solid sounding
like its too quite and then I press volume up once and its too loud, I need to tune it better later
ashen spindle
I can guarantee you, you don't have audio equipment where you need to worry about codecs
ashen spindle
exactly
wheat plume
DACs are expensive AF tho?
wheat plume
hmmm
wheat plume
wait..is that USB thingy that comes with the clouds 2 meant to be a DAC?
its the thing that enables 7.1 surround
wheat plume
O.o im a moron, I havent even plugged them in using that to the new PC
I need to do that tomorrow and see if it sounds better
and to test 7.1
oh, was about to ask if I could plug my nommas into that but they only connect with USB
so I cant
neat oriole
Schiit Modi is good
But Apple dongle is the best gaming dac
I see you like big knobs
wheat plume
But Apple dongle is the best gaming dac
@neat oriole X to doubt
neat oriole
Nah
crisp granite
nah
neat oriole
Apple dongle legit makes everything under $100 obsolete
crisp granite
and who buys apple products?
true quest
rich people
neat oriole
It’s $9 and is actually good
wheat plume
I have a DAC apparently already
crisp granite
actually, $9?
neat oriole
To get an upgrade over the dongle you’d have to get a Schiit Modi at least
neat oriole
Well yeah a dongle is a peasant product
If you’re rich you obviously have the latest wireless AirPods
wheat plume
true
neat oriole
neat oriole
Like the best budget dac/amp setup is a dongle and an Atom amp
$9 dac + $100 amp
You’re set
wheat plume
wheat plume
I know the OS and even the desktop itself can have a massive impact on sound quality
I know manjaro gnome had the best sounding audio yet manjaro plasma sounded thin
very odd
ArcoLinux is pretty noice though
neat oriole
Idk that’s a first to me that OS would affect sound
Unless it had shit audio drivers or something
ashen spindle
the OS has 0 impact on it, they just use different settings/codecs/drivers whatnot
neat oriole
That’s more like it
wheat plume
hmmmm
ashen spindle
then again linux might just do weird stuff as it usually does
wheat plume
pulse audio is tricky
neat oriole
Like no kap Apple dongle is amazing for $9
wheat plume
wow
crimson wigeon
Yes different distros can have different default configs
wheat plume
I saw a sound chart for my headphones
they are quite flat except a small bump near the bass
so they sound neutral anyway
neat oriole
Hyper x aren’t flat they’re pretty v shaped
wheat plume
hmm, lemme try to find that chart again
neat oriole
But it depends on what compensation curve whatever graph uses
ashen spindle
all I know is they sounded shit compared to mine when I had to use them once bc I forgot to charge my batteries
crisp granite
is the dongle labeled as an adapter?
neat oriole
I think so
wheat plume
yeh
true quest
as long as i can get ptsd from playing squad im fine
wheat plume
LEL
crisp granite
eyyyyy
wheat plume
Insurgency already creeps me out if im last person in team and I hear footsteps creeping up to the objective
especially in night time maps
seems this motherboard claims to have that solved
crisp granite
as long as I feel chills hearing a super mutant telling me about how it will wear my guts around it's neck with crisp audio, it's good
wheat plume
Seperate layer for left and right tracks
crisp granite
what is SINAD?
wheat plume
SINAD?
wheat plume
im not an audiophile but I get bothered by interference and background hiss or tinny sounding things
neat oriole
Very clean
neat oriole
So for example, Apple dongle is 99db for SINAD, Schiit Modi ($99 dac) is 107db
So Schiit is a bit cleaner
crisp granite
are PCI-E sound cards ok?
wheat plume
It connects with USB?
neat oriole
The whole point is to take the thing out of your noisy emf box
So any internal solution is already gimped
crisp granite
ok
neat oriole
Yes it’s USB C
crisp granite
good to know
wheat plume
Oh
I don't have USB C on my PC
wheat plume
Won't that adapter add back a lot if noise?
neat oriole
No
crisp granite
I play at a fairly low volume and I hear faint buzzing sometimes
would an external dac fix that?
neat oriole
Yeah like i said any sound solution that’s inside a PC case is just inherently gimped be noise from the other components
Yes an external dac will help reduce noise
crisp granite
bottom slot it is
wheat plume
On my cheap ass wireless earbuds
I get a lot of audible hissing when music is playing
But duh
They cheap af
neat oriole
Thats just Wireless being wireless
wheat plume
Nah
I've have wireless headphones before and didn't have that hiss
These earbuds were $20
ashen spindle
I feel like I should know if my 200$ headphones have a dac built in but I never checked lul
neat oriole
A wireless system is a Bluetooth receiver, dac, and amp. So if they use a shit dac/amp in the headphones you’ll hear hissing
wheat plume
Yeah..... You should check that
neat oriole
Now if it has a mic or any sort of controls it’s also going to have a mic amp, an ADC, and a Bluetooth sender
ashen spindle
nah its just a wireless headphone
wheat plume
Why do hyperX not have the clouds 2 in their website yet they have the og clouds?
Wtf
ashen spindle
sennheiser rs180 iirc? would need to check my old email to be sure what they are
neat oriole
Did you know that the hyper x are Takstar clones, which are Beyerdynamic clones
wheat plume
Hmm......
neat oriole
Another tackstar clone that also happens to be a gaming headset is the Corsair mh750
ashen spindle
all I know is my hyperx are collecting dust as an emergency backup I dont want to use lmao
wheat plume
Idk what that photo is meant to show
neat oriole
You know it’s like having tinnitus, if your ears are scuffed you don’t have to think about 6k headphones
wheat plume
6 grand wtf
neat oriole
Audio gets expensive
ashen spindle
if you are blind you don't gain benefits from higher resolution monitors
neat oriole
Exactly