Depends on your plans.
#๐โtech
reef patrol
cursive summit
If I were to build in a case, I'm going Lian li
reef patrol
Airflow isn't awesome, but it would make for an awesome themed build. Put something less transparent on the glass sides and turn it into a heartbeat like red effect for some DOOM
cursive summit
Lian li cases look so fresh and badass
reef patrol
Hehehe
reef patrol
Yep. It's a great case.
wheat plume
its beautiful
reef patrol
peers to right
cursive summit
Are Lian li a bit more on the premium side?
cursive summit
I have only heard great things about them though
And they listen to feedback apparently
reef patrol
Would also love the Hydra Mini
wheat plume
oo
reef patrol
wheat plume
that would only work in a place thats not dusty
RIP my roomm
my room is fucking dusty
cursive summit
My dad, a welder, can make one for you @reef patrol
reef patrol
Eh. All rooms are dusty. You can clean it ๐
cursive summit
Bet it will cost like 15 euros or so
He likes tinkering with metal from time to time
Makes his own shit
reef patrol
As for right now though... working on getting parts for my Mac Classic mod.
reef patrol
Fallback.
wheat plume
o?
reef patrol
They are super cheap to add, and factory / office environments need them
reef tundra
Dont need fallback if it just works
wheat plume
ooohhhh
I find it hilarious how the shield around the wifi card said "Asus Wifi" on it
but its an intel wif card
FFS Asus
reef patrol
wheat plume
They also put Asus on the plastic antennea thing too
Im really fucing glad its an Intel wifi card though
Means I dont need to worry about that on Linux
reef tundra
go to the driver and rename it to THICCUMS WAVEINATOR 3.0000
reef tundra
The best postman
wheat plume
I may get a battery for my old PC and a cheap hard drive to revive it as a server
reef tundra
Give him alumaximum instead then
wheat plume
I love how the CPU box was really big but the CPU only took up one tiny sliver of it along the side
reef tundra
Got a spaceheater if you need one. Dont worry it heats very well
cursive summit
@wheat plume How's your PC?
wheat plume
idk, didnt have time to spend much on it ;-;
reef tundra
infrared
wheat plume
I only had time to setup the OS and play about 10 minutes of Minecraft
but HOLY SHIT ITS FAST
LIKE DAAYYUMMM
cursive summit
drop specs
wheat plume
Asus Prime B550M-A with wifi + bluetooth
Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200MHz RAM - 16GB (2x 8GB)
WD Black NVME SSD 250GB
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Asus Geforce GTX 1660 OC
reef tundra
outdated by -1 days
cursive summit
So you went with 3600 and B550 as I can see
wheat plume
sailboat?
cursive summit
Corsair's RAM looks like a sailboat
cursive summit
reef tundra
Chucka chucka cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
wheat plume
looks like the sydney opera house
reef patrol
cursive summit
I am disappointed on massive proportions girl
wheat plume
I dont need it though
reef tundra
no its three warcriminals lining up to be shot for their usage of antimatter mortar shells on the raiding party in rimworld.
wheat plume
I can play Minecraft with extreme shaders at max graphics and 15 render distance well above 60FPS
and I love it
reef tundra
Sodium is coming, (shaders not included)
cursive summit
Ngl I always recommend that fucking card, cause it's so good 
wheat plume
Yeah, imma use Optifine cause shaders and other things like dynamic lights
reef tundra
I would recommend it if it was free
cursive summit
@wheat plume I dare you to try to run SEUS on your rig
wheat plume
I need to disablel grub delay to see how fast the PC truly boots
@wheat plume I dare you to try to run SEUS on your rig
@cursive summit mmkay
I dont like SEUS tho
its too over powering
I like shaders that are subtle and colorful
thats why I like Sildur Vibrant so much
reef tundra
I dare you to run a cryptominer while running minesweeper on low priority
wheat plume
I cant, you need rtx for that
cursive summit
You don't
wheat plume
but its raytracing 
cursive summit
PTGI runs software raytracing
reef tundra
it does it in software
ashen spindle
this is why I hate nvidia 
RTX is not the invention of raytracing
cursive summit
My rig can't run SEUS on max
wheat plume
Yeah I know its not
cursive summit
Let alone PTGI
reef tundra
HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE ARE A SCAM AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. all calculations done in hardware are doable with one instruction and that is insane. valve pls fix
cursive summit
What pisses me off about Mojang is that the fuckers aren't porting their shitty game from Java to C languages
Or any kind of language other than Java
reef tundra
C is bea
cursive summit
That runs like crap ๐
reef tundra
cus they send pictures of hardware and just push a driver instead before ?
But can it do this
reef tundra
Raytracing in not new in the redering world. Mostly in software as gpu shader(or cpu lol). But now they do it in hardware instead
reef tundra
cus the matrix multiplications are very computational expensive tho
wheat plume
Ubuntu gamepack
oh ๐คฎ
reef tundra
ubuntu? it still alive? thought it lost its pulse years ago
wheat plume
its alive by sheer amounts of users
and servers too
also canonical are saying its the only distro you should ever install
wheat plume
im a sucker for P O R T S
LGR 2020
I need to figure out if I need to take my pc apart more than I have to so that I can pull out a power cable for the drive slot or not
reef tundra
But that is not the apple way. the apple way is to be brave and remove all ports and sell it back as adapters
wheat plume
yeah....
ashen spindle
idk, most linux results I get on google are for ubuntu so I use ubuntu for my server so I dont spend ages trying to find what I need ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
reef tundra
apple nvidea ARM AVR
The best of buddies
Apple loves Nvidia. Just like Samsung loves Apple. Giving them random sums of money.
Mecedeeees?
Lot of money to prank your dad on
wheat plume
who dat
reef tundra
Tim Nvidia
wheat plume
o
reef tundra
The news of you being the fallguy for tax evasion lawsuit?
Would be pretty poggers tho
worth the 1050ti
wheat plume
the pointy pentium pyramid pc
wheat plume
XD
cursive summit
Hesus Huang!
reef tundra
Jesus?
He already got the wheel dont sweat
He got no licence but he can turn water into wine so pretty legit
reef tundra
But he cant be imposter as he did not kill me after venting in front of me
ashen spindle
only mama su can bring us salvation
reef tundra
true quest
who we simping now?
cursive summit
Whooo is thaat
reef tundra
you cant, it is not yours
ashen spindle
someone from nvidias AI team
cursive summit
For a second I thought it was Mia Khalifa
ashen spindle
@reef patrol no more popcorn, they made up 
reef patrol
Boo
ashen spindle
though I get the feeling with how jim reacts allergic to everything we get more drama when zen/rdna releases come around lmao
reef patrol
Yeah he has thin skin and loves to accuse people blindly. Not a great way to avoid drama ๐
ashen spindle
yeah... if you start an argument and then pull the "racism" card from a star trek reference... I kinda dont expect much from you lmao
thick elk
wait racism and star trek reference, I really don't seem to follow drama much
or twitter for that matter.
ashen spindle
so basically there was something like "we need more power" quote used, which comes from "scotty, we need more power" in the original start trek series, and scotty comes from scottland, like jim does apparently
and he understood it as a slap against him being scottish
no I dont think that makes sense
thick elk
Hmm weird, I still enjoy his video's though. I would never take them as objective but he does have some interesting insights at times.
I also read their site for a bit but man that Matthew guy who writes a lot there really does not know what he is talking about.
ashen spindle
havent seen a single video of him lmao I just know about him bc he appears in twitter convos
mostly because of matthew and jim defending him lmao
thick elk
Matthew is just a combination of ignorant and arrogant, maybe he will grow over it but as it stands oof.
ashen spindle
you shouldn't get a huge ego if most of your pieces are leaks (aka writing what other people tell you), not like they are top tier writing skills used to convey the info
thick elk
I remember a comment I made about an article that talked about a security exploit which was basically just that locked intel cpu's can be overvolted and not only undervolted and that this could potentially harm hardware.
He did not take it well even went to call it out again on their potcast.
I basically asked if I was missing something as I didn't see how a know feature that existed for a vey long time, is not exclusive to intel and is more restricted than whats allowed on unlocked processors is a security exploit.
ashen spindle
lmao that does sound like something I can easily imagine in my head
thick elk
here is the article: https://adoredtv.com/exclusive-intel-cpu-vulnerability-can-be-used-to-kill-cpus-and-crash-systems/
ashen spindle
ah yeah I remember that thing
like sure, you have some social/networking skills to get people to talk to you, but that's not that hard if you make it your focus, that article isn't really detailed on any aspect and leaves a lot of questions open
like if this was first found by anandtech, this would be like a 3-6 page article by Ian detailing it way more than anyone would ever ask for lmao
thick elk
Plundervolt was covered by anandtech, which is an actual exploit, this is just a way you can sabotage cpu's.
I can't remember an anandtech article about overvolting
ashen spindle
dont think there is one ye
thick elk
Because it's not worthwile and potentially damaging cpu's is not at all interesting for hackers because that's about all you can do with this. It's also been known to be possible for a very long time.
ashen spindle
we obv never know what exactly steve talked about mat being a detriment to jim, but regardless how he worded it, it was probably accurate lul
thick elk
I do think so, didn't know that was the argument but yea Matthew should just stick to tomshardware, he sure does fit in there.
ashen spindle
nah it was just mentioned during it by mat
sounds like someone salty bc steve dm'd him something like "hey look, it works on our channel, your stuff isn't getting as many views so it seems to be the wrong approach"
cba finding the other tweets related to it
crimson wigeon
So what exactly is the reason for the drama
ashen spindle
very thin skinned guy got mad when other guy didn't just take accusations without defending
think it started with steve saying the 3080/ampere has some actual value if you compare it with other things on the market, and jim taking that a shilling
thick elk
From my perspective to sum it up: Jim made a video about how ampere was nvidia's second worst generational leap based of the 3090.
He felt attacked by a part of a video hardware unboxed made after that.
Called steve a shill on twitter, Jim later admitted he was overreacting and should not have said what he did and that's about it.
In the middle Matthew made a stupid comment backed by Jim (for some reason).
All I gathered from this is Jim has issues and tends to overreact, matthew is an idiot and all got resolved in the end.
ashen spindle
https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1312185090915459072 think this is where it starts
crimson wigeon
Yikes
thick elk
This was in response to a video Jim made and probably one coreteks (never watch his stuff) made as well
ashen spindle
nah I think core just commented on a graphic from jims video from what I understand
thick elk
Ah, fair enough.
pliant shard
jim who
nvidia advertised the 3090 as not just a titan card and got punished for it
pliant shard
pretty sure it started with nvidia and them paying people to say that
oh wait you said titan
no, no one thought that
maybe some whale gamers bought titans to do it but
a lot of people who make their money off of social aspects tend not to be the brightest
twitch, twitter
certain half of youtube
intelligence not essential
cunning, maybe
but the 3090 is egregious
nvidia easily could've thrown in something before or after the 3080 ti
i guess 3080 3080 ti 3080 20gb
the worst part about SLI is people using it after 600 series
literally free money for nvidia
not only are game devs arguably lazier now, but they have more on their plates with stuff like dx12
so they have an end and a means to their fuckery
actually that's the thing
dlss, rtx i/o
require additional effort by the game dev
they can't even release a complete game on time or 3 years after release
rtx i/o i think can eventually be easier and easier to implement
i don't know about DLSS
that's good
that's great actually
but
that's only newish games that has it
and how many newish games actually have it
it'll help you drive r6s on ultrawide i guess
but most people are doing random shit like running the game on 4:3 and minimum settings anyway
and not just because they need the performance
crisp granite
and keep your kids away from them
people do that?
yikes
high level fps gaymers it's very common
@prisma crag you pulled a funny
pliant shard
hmm
do low res cpu bottlenecks only affect super high refresh rates or will a very demanding game even at a low resolution get bottlenecked too?
when i ask this i'm regarding 3080 and like and at 1080 or 1440p
standard width
i'd imagine
but it's something i've heard
and why the gains aren't amazing at non 4k resolutions
and i wonder if it's just because it's harder to push above say 144 fps or the gains in general will be that way
forest sphinx
Opinions on 1440p 144hz vs 1080p 240 hz?
pliant shard
i'm on 1440p165
i got a dell panel that was memed around a while ago
TN. there are ips options around now that won't break the bank
i think 1440p is optimal for everything other than gaming or when using a size above 24"
forest sphinx
Okay. I'm torn between asus VG27AQ and ViewSonic ELITE XG270
I guess I'm torn on how much of a difference the extra resolution will really make for me
compared to the extreme motion smoothness of the other monitor
pliant shard
the specs seem similar other than resolution and refresh rate
and maybe gimmick offerings
forest sphinx
The XG270 is blur busters certed
pliant shard
if you're particularly sensitive it can cause headaches
as can electric lights, crt and friend tvs
forest sphinx
people seem to agree that the xg 270 is good
I don't seem to have any issues with that
sometimes really shitty flickery fluorescent will fuck with me
but thats it
pliant shard
if you care about motion blur i wonder if the asus TUF's backlight strobing only runs at 120hz
forest sphinx
People have said that the strobing effect can be real bad on that monitor, but then other people swear by it
others have had persistance issues with the panel, but those seem like 1 off cases
pliant shard
it seems like
the 1440p does blacks better
has a bit lower picture quality
motion blur reduction
dunno they're pretty different
reef patrol
3080 TUF order finally officially confirmed. Still no delivery date.
Late October here we come!
wheat plume
Is coil whine that you can hear quite clearly normal?
I'm sitting just beside the computer and I can hear the whine
reef patrol
Sometimes, yes.
reef patrol
You will always have coil whine - Whether or not you can hear it is... more random.
Two identical graphics cards can have slightly different whine ranges.
wheat plume
I'm sensitive to high pitch noises
reef patrol
Sometimes you only hear it at max load, sometimes only at 49,5% load.
reef patrol
Yup. Luck of the draw - And outside of those 14 day returns, most dealers don't offer swaps.
Because they don't consider them faults.
wheat plume
This is without playingg a game
tender sparrow
650W not being enough kills it for me
ashen spindle
if you are sure that it's coilwhine, you could play around with afterburner and see if a slight undervolt to the gpu helps
reef patrol
650W not being enough kills it for me
@tender sparrow Swapped to my 750W Titanium PSU for it ๐
wheat plume
My friend heard it too and said it was coil whine
reef patrol
Did run 650 previously.
wheat plume
I trust him
reef patrol
Gotta get that 1440p 144fps. And my 2080 just ain't doing that ๐
ashen spindle
I mean you can also just trust yourself, figure out where the sound comes from and compare it to an example sound on youtube
after all changing gpu voltage won't matter if it's from the PSU
ashen spindle
well, then you can take that moment and listen to where it's coming from ๐
reef patrol
For SATA you need to use the cables from the motherboard box.
reef patrol
Find these on the motherboard (usually near the biggest power cable plugged into the board) and plug in a cable there to the SATA drive, then a power cable and screw it onto the case.
wheat plume
Its scaring me that the gpu just gets held in place by the side and the back
The other two sides are just hovering in the air and I can see it sagging very slightly
ashen spindle
or if there is already a sata drive connected, that cable probably has more adapters for more drivers
reef patrol
Sagging is quite normal.
reef patrol
You can sometimes improve it a bit by screwing it in harder.
Or just place a funkopop below it ๐
wheat plume
LEL
lemme get a chibi figurine and put it there
So my waifu can protect my gpu
I can't wait to leave
Get back to my house and finish properly setting up the PC
thorn latch
whats the specs
wheat plume
Asus Prime B550M-A with wifi + bluetooth
Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200MHz RAM - 16GB (2x 8GB)
WD Black NVME SSD 250GB
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Asus Geforce GTX 1660 OC
ashen spindle
the pc is already asembled
reef patrol
Would have, should have, could have.
cursive summit
I just nearly convinced her/him
I am slowly starting to believe Lana is actually her
But it might be a Lana/anaL thing
Dunno
Couldn't save a poor soul of spending more for less in the end
thorn latch
latent mural
Looks good
reef patrol
Is that your current setup? Couldn't but notice it has two sets of RAM, and it uses a 2600
latent mural
I seen that too. I also noticed thereโs no compatability issues so didnโt think it really mattered
ashen spindle
you should never trust compatibility checkmarks from websites lmao
latent mural
Two different possibilities I suppose correct?
thorn latch
yeh
rgb
or non rgb
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/q9jcCz so it will be 670
when the case is in stock
in england
reef patrol
Nice to have - Easy to disable or tweak ๐
latent mural
True
reef patrol
Most of the builds I've done use two static colours, not rainbow effects. Though I may add a bit of animation or a heartbeat effect.
latent mural
I donโt ever look at my computer so I donโt invest much inside the case. Also the windows are tinted so I like to keep things simple
Muted
Having a toggle [on/off] is nice though.
thorn latch
i have motion bluer
blur
when the rgb is bright and im looking around at where im going to press
all i can see is streaks of the rgb colour
theyre the sam eprice
same
im going to have the cooler from 2700x from my friend
pliant shard
the only time i got coil whine was
i had a benchmark software open and it was running the ui at some thousands of fps
wheat plume
the headphone jack on my computer case is called starship?
ashen spindle
I guess so?
wheat plume
nice but also odd
ashen spindle
Idk just some random Codename
pliant shard
they're both amd codenames for zen 2 cpus
it's an hd audio controller chipset shared between the two
starship is on the server end
ashen spindle
.. wow I actually donโt remember ever hearing starship but youโre right
Was starship the pre release name for Milan or something ?
pliant shard
it was a 48 core server cpu
maybe it never became a thing
maybe it just became next gen of epyc
ashen spindle
Oh it was naming from before zen release
pliant shard
uh
ashen spindle
Still had the opteron branding lmao
pliant shard
maybe
ashen spindle
pliant shard
it became 2nd gen epyc
ashen spindle
Ye so itโs Rome but I guess some parts internally kept the old name
neat oriole
neat oriole
Your move PS5
pliant shard
based new google flagship phone
128gb and no sd slot
in 2020
almost apple tier
at the very least i have access to my pittance of storage
tender sparrow
Essential PH-1: Allow me to introduce myself
Essential: Allow us to go out of business
pliant shard
been a while since i've seen that
i dunno it looks weird
when it's not just fans clipped to pipes and fins
old marlin
it also is not good for a big air cooler
pliant shard
you know i'm using a fuckin
420mm radiator
wish i just stuck with the noctua big boy air cooler
reef patrol
It's definitely not the best cooler, but it's so easy to mount compared to a Noctus
pliant shard
doesn't feel any different
old marlin
what?
pliant shard
noctua felt easy to mount
old marlin
noctuas are easy af to mount
pliant shard
nothing is nearly as bad as alphacool clcs
reef patrol
The fans are a nightmare to clip on in tight cases compared to this.
pliant shard
just use a screwdriver or something
reef patrol
Good luck fitting a screwdriver in there
old marlin
also corsair copied the mounting system
pliant shard
and on top of that
old marlin
just like everyone else
pliant shard
the aft fan had to sit up a bit more than the other
old marlin
not even better execution
pliant shard
because of clearance
old marlin
and while their fan mount is easy to use
reef patrol
Copied? I don't recall a single cooler where you slide on the fans
old marlin
it wastes a ton of space
reef patrol
It does.
old marlin
I had no problems getting fans on my NH-D15
reef patrol
Definitely room for improvement there. My A500 ended up in my cousin's PC without the top cover. Just barely fit the case.
reef patrol
The biggest waste of space is honestly the core, not the fans as such.
old marlin
but it performs worse on AMD
well the core is the price
imo
100 Euros/dollars is just way too much for the performance
pliant shard
getting amd
cursive summit
Lads are modular PSUs basically what we call a PSU with detachable cables?
reef patrol
Yep
old marlin
thye just cut out a third of their cooling surface
cursive summit
Worth paying extra? @reef patrol
pliant shard
how much extra even is it
reef patrol
I think so, but I also have plenty of cables in the back as is.
old marlin
if you want a decent PSU it is basically always a modular one nowadays
cursive summit
Ehh depends, usually 20-30% more if not higher
old marlin
pliant shard
i guess it is a lot
reef patrol
It all adds up with 8 RGB fans and controllers ๐
old marlin
a decent psu pays off
pliant shard
$80 minimum for a modular seems off
cursive summit
I mean we are talking 20% on top of like 50โฌ non-modular
pliant shard
you can get some really fucked up non modular psus for less than 50 yuros
cursive summit
Not that much
old marlin
wtf are you planning on getting
cursive summit
I bought a Thermaltake 700W for 40โฌ
old marlin
old marlin
3 years is nothing for a psu
pliant shard
can you get a gold rated non modular?
pliant shard
semi modular. close enough
old marlin
seasonic focus
cursive summit
My Corsair 450W exploded after like 4 years
old marlin
imo
cursive summit
Literally
old marlin
watt does not mean quality
pale sigil
Seasonic is overrated
old marlin
seasonic is the easiest bet to go for though
cursive summit
Flash, fire, smoke, electricity goes off
pliant shard
you can get a titanium at 600W
cursive summit
PSU exploded
pliant shard
as well as 1600W
old marlin
@pliant shard titanium does not mean quality
reef patrol
Seasonic is overrated
@pale sigil lolno
pale sigil
Q tech is where itโs at
cursive summit
He thinks Titanium is one of those classifiers 80+
reef patrol
It often indirectly implies a certain level of quality though.
old marlin
warranty is a lot better indicator of quality than an 80+ rating tbh
pale sigil
For real though I think seasonic is incredibly overrated and tbh you donโt have to buy directly off seasonic for their components anyway
old marlin
seasonic is taiwanese
cursive summit
Basically American
pale sigil
Green wall > seasonic
cursive summit
cursive summit
Don't sleep on Great Wall, they are actually not bad
cursive summit
Isn't Corsair mega overrated?
old marlin
not really tbh
pale sigil
Itโs like its own tax even though other psus use their components at less
reef patrol
Corsair make terrible PSUs in the cheap end for sure.
cursive summit
Dunno my Thermaltake has been doing good, I might try them out again
old marlin
cheap end is greatwall 
reef patrol
I think we had like a ... 30-40% return on the VS550
Yes. A third to a half of them died within warranty.
pliant shard
hmm
i had a toshiba hdd that's lasted me a looooooong time
i've also had a seagate that failed 3 months in
old marlin
@reef patrol you know which one?
pliant shard
no?
cursive summit
Dunno my 700W Silverstone loves to coil whine
Until you slap the case
Then he's a good boy
pliant shard
also
psu warranties rarely go beyond 10 years
unless quality hits a hard cap?
that was a rhetorical question
it doesn't
fanless
cursive summit
Lifetime warranty ftw
pliant shard
i have non computer fans on half of the year, doesn't really matter how much my fans go at now
raidmax offers a 12 year warranty but more popular brands do a 10 year
also
your psu fan is the furthest away from you, no?
pale sigil
EVGA PSUs is where irs at
pliant shard
hm
i have a 1070 ti from them
their software is trash and i'm pretty sure i can't control both fans with afterburner
pliant shard
every time i start my computer it runs
i have an msi motherboard
real nice fucker
old marlin
I have a dell motherboard
pale sigil
I ainโt denying afterburner is better tho
old marlin
real nice fucker
actually not as bad as I expected it top be tbh
calptop experience so far has been good
as a daily driver for games etc
pliant shard
i'd like all my hardware-software interaction requirements to be run once never touch
wootility, for example
for what?
what does my mouse need a gigabyte of storage for
pale sigil
Haha I have a hate love relationship with ghub
pliant shard
i have only a hate relationship
it's awful
i need to keep it running to use macros
pale sigil
Really do
pliant shard
they can afford a little bit of storage
yeah i'll buy a $300 mouse when they make them in america
pale sigil
Itโs why I love my wooting so much, I rarely ever open wootikity
pliant shard
i don't know what marketing yuppie ass clown got the idea to market the card above the 3080 as a 3090 and as a gaming gpu
pliant shard
maybe that really is the fault of whales and twitch streamers
haha titan look at it go zoooom
pale sigil
And they knew people were so desperate that even 10% would sell
pliant shard
so desperate after 2000 series and amd left them feeling a bit burned
even LTT needed to take the marketing money
pale sigil
Money go brrr
pliant shard
it's like you take off the clown mask
and spill everything out that you've had bottled up for the past 5 years
then put it right back on and go for it
wheat plume
Anyone know a website or app I can just to make easy and fast wire frame designs?
And make architecture diagrams
(Idk what those are)
wheat plume
hm..
wheat plume
this is usually in the status bar, why is it just floating under the panel now? Strange
its odd, chrome can use blackboard on my laptop but not on computer
its the other way around with firefox though
strange AF
ashen spindle
depends, some have bios update some not yet
ashen spindle
pale sigil
ashen spindle
well yeah they all will work obviously
pale sigil
So like would he be able to put the new cpu in and update?
ashen spindle
that one depends
pale sigil
Damn i prob owe him a mcdonalds now.
ashen spindle
some boards you can flash with no cpu, some require a supported cpu to be in socket etc
ashen spindle
what did you bet
ashen spindle
??????
pale sigil
on a x570
ashen spindle
yeah ofc not
ashen spindle
yes the chipset will be able to support it
reef patrol
The CPUs didn't even exist on paper back then.
Even if they are the same architecture each cpuID has to be patched in.
ashen spindle
but without a proper bios a total ammount of 0 cpus will work on it
reef patrol
Along with micropatches
pale sigil
RIP
ashen spindle
could've told you that before you made the bet lul
ashen spindle
idk, why dont you do what it tells you do to
ashen spindle
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ then do it later, if its just deprecated but works there is not issue for now
ashen spindle
are SFTP and FTP just related by name or how come I can just use SFTP but need to set up FTP to transfer files with it on my VM?
thick elk
SFTP has nothing to do with ftp and is based on SSH
ashen spindle
urghh guessed it but didnt want it to be true lmao
thick elk
There is FTPS which is ftp with ssl but generally ftp is just an old protocol that really needs to die some day
ashen spindle
the issue is I can't use sftp bc I want to make some batch files to automate the moving of files
and from what I see batch doesnt work with sftp
thick elk
I don't know much about windows command line stuff but I am sure there are ways to automate over ssh maybe a command line rsync client for windows
or run it through subsystem linux.
ashen spindle
yeah I wanted to keep it simple not involve a dozen other programs lmao
thick elk
either way you have to install something. be it an ftp client on your vm or something to use sftp or rsync on your windows machine.
ashen spindle
think I'll go with vsftpd since I have a site for that open now lmao
thick elk
In general though rsync as a protecol is best for this
ashen spindle
meh it sounds nice but I'd rather not put more stuff on my window machine just for that
but thanks
cursive summit
Looks like some interesting stuff is coming
Infinity Cache has been known in rumours, it'll be a big selling point for Zen 3 apparently
cursive summit
Zen 3 is rumoured to also have some weird shit with cache
ashen spindle
but zen 3 is a cpu
what do you want with something that mentions it is for interconnect in a gpu there lol
we already know frontier (or was it el capitaine ?) will use both amd cpus and gpus in a CXL interconnect so those are all part of getting to that point
cursive summit
fallow bison
I dont like razer, but this is cool. https://twitter.com/minliangtan/status/1313132405457252354?s=19
Twitter
ashen spindle
twitch drops is nothing new, but I dont think we had any rgb stuff interaction till now?
That didnโt really fail, drops are a popular feature quite a lot of games make use of
Nope been a thing like that for over a year easily now
Idk how Ubi messes up what already works forever but gj
Donโt remember anything that pointed out to me as a nice gpu feature in Wd2
reef tundra
Most of the details are unnoticeble in usual playthrough
you will notice that the wanted criminal you are hunting down is hudled in the skyscraper doing his thing and killing the local helicopter population at ease. And ending up getting sniped by him multiple times cus he can just throw a granade on the only entry point to keep you away
that made quite a lot of people mad, lol. Just wanted to farm xp or something. Hehe, usually ranting in the chat about it. Let me be a criminal in peace ahh
ashen spindle
NVIDIA today announced a new kind of processor
sure new kind that people use for a while already
yeah because before that he will make it so they cant legally get their ice anymore themselves
what a great man
pliant shard
intel playing checkers
amd playing chess
nvidia playing tic tac toe and 5d chess at the same time
wheat plume
is it normal for a yellow light to be on near the back of my computer?
when power is given, it stays solid but when the PC is on, it does a slow breating effect
ashen spindle
idk, floating lights sounds scary
ripe anvil
Maybe in the PSU, I have seen those before.
wheat plume
oh?
ashen spindle
if you can be a bit more specific that would help a lot
could literally just be the lan cable
wheat plume
its near the bottom of the motherboard
unless this thing has an optical out but i dont think it does
ashen spindle
have you checked the motherbaord manual if it has any lights in that area
ripe anvil
That's some sort of io light, used to be common on laptops (I think).
ashen spindle
idk, just look if it has led's there
wheat plume
ohh. I was looking at the wrong booklet
one second, this is the quick guide not the user manual
why does it say the wifi antennea needs to be 20CM from anyone?
ashen spindle
..ofc you would check the paper and not the online version lmao
wheat plume
probs can in bios
pliant shard
just turn it all off
ashen spindle
but can you ctrl+f your paper book
pliant shard
i dunno i looked in bios
but can you ctrl+f half of the pdfs that exist
not really
these days you can
ashen spindle
yes I'm not talking about 10 years ago :p
wheat plume
o, you can update the BIOS without needing and OS specific tools
just plug a USB with the new BIOS in and boot to BIOS and install it
ripe anvil
why does it say the wifi antennea needs to be 20CM from anyone?
Because radiation limits are really strict (in Europe at least).
I often print out coding documentation and other documents as it reads a lot nicer and flicking through pages is objectively nicer that pressing a button.
reef tundra
riskv time
arm is cringe now
SiFive costumer service worker contracted sleep deprived indused psychosis for working his 5 days shift to keep up. /s
reef tundra
3 of them
reef tundra
21 if they can meme it in
pale sigil
RTX Linux
thorn latch
can you use rtx in linuux
ashen spindle
yes
reef tundra
Vulkan has raytracing right?
thorn latch
through softwear
crimson wigeon
Yes https://www.khronos.org/registry/vulkan/specs/1.2-extensions/man/html/VK_KHR_ray_tracing.html (look at the contributors!)
thorn latch
through softwear is it possible
pale sigil
i mean you can use rtx as a feature
reef tundra
Doesnt the nvidia driver step in to take over to hardware?
pale sigil
but its not actually using rtx tech
thorn latch
ight
reef tundra
even better
ashen spindle
it has no dedicated rtx hardware is what you are looking for
reef tundra
owhhh yea mister crabs im feeling it now
pale sigil
arrrr teeee exxxxx
crimson wigeon
ON
reef tundra
poirate!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET EM CHAMPS! ITS A THIEF OF THE SEAS! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Arent the RT cores just matrix multipliers?
ashen spindle
no thats the tensor cores
thorn latch
cant i just download a pc upgrades
XD
i installed a rtx 2080
getting a 3080 in 30 minuits
reef tundra
reef tundra
Imma ram more memory
thorn latch
CAN I DOWNLOAD MORE SSD SPACE?
wheat plume
wtf :')
reef patrol
reef tundra
Cant go wrong
ignore housefires they are user error shouldnt have such a burnable house then
forest sphinx
Do you think that a 3070 could get max frames on ultra settings on a 240hz monitor?
ivory geyser
In what game?
forest sphinx
well I haven't upgraded in like 6 years, and so I'm planning to upgrade with all this new hardware releasing so that I can play cyberpunk on max cause I'm hype
also the monitor would be 1080p
thats why I think I might be able to do it
ashen spindle
depends on the cpu, just watch the reviews when the card comes out
ashen spindle
sadly our stock of crystall balls to see the future ran out :p
wheat plume
Thats older than my old pc :O
but better CPU actually
forest sphinx
Yeah, its not a -k either so no overclocking for even a bit of increased performance sadly
wheat plume
I had a 4th gen i5 and a gtx 860M
forest sphinx
ah yeah.
Yeah I pulled the trigger on the new monitor yesterday, I do like that smooth high refresh rate goodness, so I opted for that over more resolution at the price point I was looking at
but I figured if the resolution was lower I might be able to get away with a cheaper card
and still maybe hit the 240fps mark on ultra settings
reef tundra
Remember to set the refreshrate in the settings
forest sphinx
The new monitor hasn't arrived yet
I'm going to try it when it gets here and see how much my 770 screams
but I guess I'll just wait on the benchmarks and see ๐
I'm excited to see those new zen 3 cpus in a few days
Performance rumors seem juicy so far
forest sphinx
my ram is ddr3 666 mhz
and my mobo is a z97-A I think?
asus
so yeah its probs about time
I never did any incremental upgrades
forest sphinx
I just wanna see full frames on the monitor haha
A buttery smooth 200-220 would be real nice
I'm not super concerned about resolution tbh
The fact that there were 60" 1080p tvs that people were satisfied with tells me that a 27" screen with a same res shouldn't be bad
thats why i bought for higher refresh instead of 1440p
but I'm hoping that also allows me to maaaaybe buy a worse gpu and save some money
yeah I saw that too. I looked at 27" 1080p monitors in person though at a microcenter up close, the resolution did not bother me
no I just watched some 1080p youtube vids on a 1080p monitor full screen
It was fine
for me at least
It won't really be a work monitor for the most part
I do some work on it but usually that is done elsewhere
but yeah thatd probs be a good test too
I'm pretty sure I wont mind
I will be replacing a 60hz 1080p that is 23 inches
I dont know if there is a good way to hook up both monitors such that the 60hz does not affect the 240hz
Yeah 100%
Then I'd definitely be looking 1440p
but I actually think that bigger than 27" might be too big
My eyes can only look at so much
And I don't really care about peripheral vision or else I mighta looked at ultrawides
which, i did look at a bit
but I did not find I enjoyed it that much
itd be great for work I think
but not for gaming
What kind of monitor are you looking for optimally?
Like, if you COULD find something else
forest sphinx
Yeah. Its the blur busters approved monitor, and all the motion tests I've seen of it do look quite good
so it should be good
albeit a bit lower resolution than the other options I was looking at, but I think its still worth
I guess I'll see when it arrives in a few weeks though, if my 770 can even push it to max frames. I'll have to find the right type of game to test it. Maybe league on ultra low settings.
pliant shard
yeah
mighty otter
@forest sphinx Try L4D2
It's cheap and I get 144 with no slowdowns with a GTX 1080
I know that's a beefy card, but I'm sure you could get similar with a 770 with lower settings
It's pretty well optimized
forest sphinx
Ah okay
I could do l4d2
or league
either way
I'll give them both a try when it arrives
thanks so much for the tip!
cursive summit
pliant shard
no shit
wheat plume
after about an hour of playing games my PC freezes real badly for like a few minutes at a time, so I force shutdown and when I reboot , the compositor acts strange as its is not enabled but in settings it is, so I reboot again and it works fine
ashen spindle
sounds like fun
wheat plume
it might be plasma desktop
its tricky when using nvidia drivers
but idek for sure
should I add a swap file? I have no swap at all
I have 16GB ram tho, and the GPU has 6gb
ashen spindle
do you use more than your 16gb ram
ashen spindle
so why would you need it
wheat plume
but idk what when playing games
on my old computer, I saw swap being used before even when ram wasnt fully used
it was using like 1% of swap or whatever
ashen spindle
then again, idk how its used in linux
wheat plume
I set swappiness to 10 so it will not try to use it as easily
wheat plume
TIL there is a leaderboard to how fast you can overclock your SLI RTX 3090 cards
reef patrol
Given the number of cards on the market, divided by half... so just owning two 3090 cards will get you on the board.
A literal participation trophy ๐
wheat plume
reef patrol
Not even twenty seconds in and I already want to close the video. Jay is so obnoxious xD
wheat plume
wait, surely the reason for freezing isnt over heating??? this case has 3 fans on full spin and a large ass cooler on the CPU
unless my friend put the fans in backwards
reef patrol
wheat plume
hmm, time to take the front panel off
reef patrol
Fans blow in the direction of the side with the crossbrace that holds the center. If all of your fans go the same way, bueno.
wheat plume
I shall investigate later
wait, I can just slide it out from against the wall and look in
old marlin
?
wheat plume
yeh, they are the right way
old marlin
ah
wheat plume
I think eventually the same thing will happen me as what happened to my friend
there is a large circlular area of dust on the front panel exactly where the front fan is xd
reef patrol
That means it's working ๐
urban lynx
you said "slide it out from against the wall"
is the case super close to a wall with the fans??
urban lynx
the way that was said really had me wonder
wheat plume
what mansen said
reef patrol
Also most cases don't really do side intake ๐
wheat plume
well, the rear fan is close to a wall
but that blows out the air
but not very close cause the cables cant bend very well
urban lynx
reminds me of my old ikea desk. it had this platform for your tower. on the left.
my one system used to have a side exhaust for the cpu... not the best combo
urban lynx
i long have not had my case under a desk at this point
urban lynx
... i dont think i ever lived in a carpeted place yet...
urban lynx
oh wait...
our former pool room is carpeted
cursive summit
Any of you are familiar with PHP?
urban lynx
i just barely go in there xD
cursive summit
I am having weird ass problems ๐
ashen spindle
php? just yell it loudly and @spiral belfry will appear :p
or was it darrel and I'm mixing them up fk
think I did
cursive summit
Essentially, in one page, I am having a POST query in a form for a random text. It sends it into another calculations page.
There the whole text, in a single $string, is str_splitted to symbols
But sizeof() tells me the array size is 1
When it theory it should be several hundred symbols
spiral belfry
are you doing sizeof with the $_POST var or with the $_POST["form-input-name"]
because if its the first, yes it will return 1, as its 1 array
spiral belfry
And why are you using sizeof($var) for a string? strlen($var) is better for strings
๐ oks
wheat plume
my friend: uses Manjaro
also friend: install all software using flatpak and complains why none of the apps match his theme
thick elk
There are ways to make it work with flatpak
Generally though flatpak is not something you should use on arch or manjaro for most things
cursive summit
spiral belfry
or was it darrel and I'm mixing them up fk
@ashen spindle I do PHP, Darrell loves JS.... for some stupid reason XD
cursive summit
Basically it's supposed to be a shit ton of symbols
But the echo sizeof() is reporting it to be the size of 1
ashen spindle
right, you are both liking the wrong thing so it's the same to me :p
spiral belfry
@cursive summit send me code in DM
right, you are both liking the wrong thing so it's the same to me :p
@ashen spindle You right, MS-DOS is the best lang
ashen spindle
I am actually making a batch file right now lul
thick elk
I am sure something worse than windows shell scripts must be used somewhere.