🔌│tech

[cursive summit]

No?

You can get a dock for 150$ or so

[ashen spindle]

no thats illegal tino

[ashen spindle]

after all only my opinion is the correct one

[cursive summit]

Also, eGPU's are great

[glossy panther]

expensive, loud, and god just what the fuck

[thorn latch]

true

[glossy panther]

apex legends

is that canceled yet?

[cursive summit]

Regardless, I need an ultrabook for portability

[ashen spindle]

why would they cancel a very active game

[crimson wigeon]

For the memes

[cursive summit]

I ain't carrying a 10kg 2x RTX 2080 laptop

[thorn latch]

get an ultrabook and a pc

[glossy panther]

ultrabook for portability with 2 power cables and a brick that holds a graphics card?

[cursive summit]

That's at home friend

Why are we explaining that to them @digital cliff , isn't that like obvious?

[glossy panther]

them

i'm one man

[thorn latch]

me too

im also a person

[glossy panther]

don't know what

[cursive summit]

Judging by the convo I wouldn't rule out the possibility it's the same person

[glossy panther]

you're more likely than not

to guess correctly

[ashen spindle]

it's also multiple people so using plural makes sense regardless

[glossy panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn0WdJx-Wkw

[cursive summit]

Why does that need explaining as well?

[thorn latch]

can you please consider me a person

[cursive summit]

Nah

I consider you a plebian

[glossy panther]

you might be an attack helicopter

of sorts

[cursive summit]

Call the fucking Asgard on these damn plebians

[glossy panther]

maybe a huey with a bunch of shit duct taped to it

[cursive summit]

Thor hammer

[thorn latch]

hey

im not a hellicopter

[glossy panther]

microwave

forgot about those

what's the performance drop from an egpu anyway

[cursive summit]

"Birthday: Oct 31 2013"

Makes sense

Explains everything

[thorn latch]

how dare you call me a those

[glossy panther]

2013

[thorn latch]

oct 31 2003

[glossy panther]

don't you have to be 18 to use discord

[ashen spindle]

13 and up iirc

[cursive summit]

Oh sorry, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought it was 2013

Well colour me disappointed then

[thorn latch]

where are you getting 2013 from

[cursive summit]

Your basic understanding of grammar and PCs

[glossy panther]

cringe

[thorn latch]

im leaving

[cursive summit]

Sorry for insulting your feelings

[thorn latch]

bye @reef patrol love you

[glossy panther]

👀

[cursive summit]

Don't call the mod you fool!

[ashen spindle]

well, he's gone

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/fool-took-fool-of-a-took-gandalf-pippin-gif-5998055

[ashen spindle]

lol

[reef patrol]

Thank - Fucking - God.

[glossy panther]

that was fast

[crimson wigeon]

Good job you scared them

[cursive summit]

Did I do well?

[reef tundra]

What kind of sugarfueled shit was this

[glossy panther]

think people got excited

[cursive summit]

Man he got me fuming when he told me to "get a desktop"

Ultrabooks are awesome

[reef tundra]

Did the dealer have some discount on the blue ice?

[cursive summit]

I use northern lights @reef tundra

If you know what I mean

[glossy panther]

man do i hate ultrabooks

[thorn latch]

Thank - Fucking - God.
@reef patrol ...

[cursive summit]

Oh fuck

Busted

Call the ambulance we are out of here

[glossy panther]

everything went wrong once we created thinness as a criterion for laptop value

[cursive summit]

That's the whole point of it

Small ultraportable powerhouse

[glossy panther]

at what cost

[thorn latch]

mansen, @pale sigil, @digital cliff and @reef tundra where the only people i liked here

[cursive summit]

I am not carrying an ATX case around

[glossy panther]

it's not just a monetary cost

well technically everything is a monetary cost but fuck the thermals and fuck i/o too aye

[reef tundra]

Hell yea, someone likes me. That is a new high

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-6D_jdQn0A

[cursive summit]

There is barely a monetary cost

[thorn latch]

im leaving now

[ashen spindle]

ok

[cursive summit]

You are getting usually laptop exclusive ports, a screen which in Lenovo's case quite insane

Ultra low power consumption

[thorn latch]

quintosh was nice too

[glossy panther]

laptop exclusive ports

[cursive summit]

Thunderbolt3 for most part is laptop exclusive

[glossy panther]

i get nothing out of thunderbolt

[cursive summit]

I know there are some motherboards that are licensed to use them

Well if you don't eGPU obviously you don't have any value out of it

USB 3.2 gen 2 does the same

But it doesn't have those 4 PCIe lanes

[glossy panther]

so you're saying by having my graphics card plugged into my computer i don't have the privilege of using an egpu

[cursive summit]

How the fuck am I going to do the same and plug it into my device I can carry anywhere and use it wherever I want?

[thorn latch]

@reef tundra can you accpt my frend req ottherwise i cant dm you when i leave

[glossy panther]

i have a device i can carry anywhere and use whenever i want

it even makes calls

[cursive summit]

Jesus christ don't make this into a drama and just leave buddy, if you want @thorn latch

Yeah I want the Windows potential of photo, video editing

[thorn latch]

i am but i cant dm him

[cursive summit]

And light gaming

It's far more useful to just carry a 14"

[thorn latch]

i have twice

[cursive summit]

I bet you also consider these useless?

[wheat plume]

rate build

is 870 euro

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume 3400g?

[glossy panther]

i'd consider a gaming laptop with no dedicated graphics card and a regular form factor and regular i/o and a decent battery

[wheat plume]

bad choice?

[glossy panther]

i would call it, a laptop even humans would use

[ashen spindle]

get a 3300x if you have a gpu

[cursive summit]

I'd go 3600 at minimum, or 3300

[glossy panther]

dated late 2000s

[ashen spindle]

3400g is older cpu with gpu integrated

[wheat plume]

o

[glossy panther]

3600XT

[ashen spindle]

3300x is what you want there

[cursive summit]

You are trolling or something?

At 800 euros 3600XT is not needed

When 3600 is borderline the same, but cheaper

[ashen spindle]

and 3300x is sometimes even better due to CCX design

[cursive summit]

800 pricepoint is mostly a GPU bottleneck, so invest most of the price into that

[wheat plume]

Ryzen 5 3600 instead?

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume What country do you live in?

[wheat plume]

Ireland

[ashen spindle]

3600 if you cant find a 3300x

[cursive summit]

Oh crap isn't there some sort of imports tax?

For Ireland?

[wheat plume]

Thats why Im using komplett.ie

they are already in Ireland

[cursive summit]

Aight

[wheat plume]

how I know if an SSD has a cache or not?

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume What workloads are you doing?

[glossy panther]

the wd blue has a cache

[cursive summit]

Don't all NVMe's have cache?

[glossy panther]

no

and that's not nvme

[wheat plume]

I just want a PC that can play the games I play at higher than all settings turned to low

and at 60FPS or higher

[cursive summit]

Roger

[reef patrol]

Don't REALLY need cache for gaming.

[wheat plume]

im aiming for GTX 1660TI if possible

[reef patrol]

It's nice, sure. But not critical

[wheat plume]

or just the regular gtx1660

someone said without caching that the speed will be just like a hard drive

so there is no reason to have the SSD

[glossy panther]

who said that

[reef patrol]

Caching just keeps the max speed for longer at a time.

[ashen spindle]

someone who doesnt know how ssds work apparently

[reef patrol]

And yes - Linus and co. have said that once cache runs out, SSDs can be slower than HDDs.

So it's a well known meme. 😄

[glossy panther]

huh

since when did WD go cacheless

based

[reef patrol]

WD have always been cachelss on their blue/green SSDs.

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume How much space do you need on it?

[wheat plume]

500GB is fine

[glossy panther]

actually

[thorn latch]

""

[glossy panther]

WD doesn't declare cache anywhere

[cursive summit]

Holy fuck this trashy interface on that website

[glossy panther]

huh

wd blue ssds do have cache

maybe greens don't

maybe reds don't

[ashen spindle]

blues should be qlc and I'd bet 90% of qlc ssds come with some cache

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume Exact price point is 800?

[glossy panther]

blues are definitely TLC

[ashen spindle]

no way

[glossy panther]

3d nand

usually when they have QLC they scream QLC like it's the next best thing

[wheat plume]

@wheat plume Exact price point is 800?
@cursive summit I can push 900 if I need

[cursive summit]

Aight

[wheat plume]

I have wifi card from my old PC

and an SSD too
but I want to get another SSD to have two for dual boot

[ashen spindle]

oh wow it is tlc

[glossy panther]

i mean

if blues were QLC

and dramless

what the fuck are greens

cucumbers?

[ashen spindle]

would be close to the performance then lul

[glossy panther]

eh

sata always the limiting factor

660ps were such a good purchase

[ashen spindle]

660p/665p are definitely some of the best value options we have rn

[glossy panther]

well

anymore?

i dunno

660p was $100 a TB

now it's $140?

[ashen spindle]

can still find it at 99 for 1tb here

[glossy panther]

what's 665p, came after?

[cursive summit]

Alright

[ashen spindle]

it's supposed to be replacing it but most places have both/it costs more

idk its weird

[cursive summit]

I came up with this

[glossy panther]

well

[cursive summit]

Of course I didn't check compatibilities with the case or anything, but true high end gaming is close here

[glossy panther]

as it turns out the 660p was too good of value at it's price point

[ashen spindle]

3100? I'd still say at least 3300x

[reef patrol]

3100? I'd still say at least 3300x
@ashen spindle If you can find one.

[wheat plume]

https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/list/f3W2K4

[cursive summit]

3100 seems to be decent enough tbh

https://youtu.be/SHKNiwZjey8

[glossy panther]

RX 5700?

[wheat plume]

this was proposed to me

[glossy panther]

is it even good value?

[cursive summit]

RX 5700 is amazing

[glossy panther]

4 core cpu

in 2020

[cursive summit]

RTX 2070 Super perf

For much cheaper

[glossy panther]

true

[cursive summit]

No?

[glossy panther]

you either pay the nvidia tax or get the amd experience

[cursive summit]

It's not expensive at all

Remember that 5700 can be unlocked for 5700XT performance levels

[glossy panther]

can't you just get the 5700 and bios mod to a 5700 XT

[cursive summit]

Exactly

The card is a monster

[ashen spindle]

I just wonder if the 5700 will get a bit bottlenecked since it's @1080p

[cursive summit]

I wouldn't settle for anything else

[pale sigil]

ayyup

[cursive summit]

Dunno I run it at 1080p

[pale sigil]

did i miss drama

[cursive summit]

Do you want me to benchmark it?

I have it on R5 3600

[ashen spindle]

yeah 3600 is a decent bit better than the 3100

[cursive summit]

He/she needs it for games

[ashen spindle]

no real drama, just someone who cant decide to stay or leave

[cursive summit]

And quad core/six core shouldn't really matter

For higher than FHD

And mainly games obviously

[glossy panther]

it'll matter a bit more later down the line

[cursive summit]

The card is what will really elevate the rig

Plus B450 is upgradable

Wait a year or two and snap a 3900 for 300$ or so

If they go down that much

[glossy panther]

$300

probably more like 400 yuro

because ireland lol

[cursive summit]

Fuck do I know how the 5000 series will perform

[glossy panther]

better perform well

gladly sitting over here with intel

[cursive summit]

They should be beating the 10900K easily

But dunno how priced they will be

I fucking hope they don't elevate the prices

I see them doing so, for the marketing team

[glossy panther]

why would they do anything for their marketing team those guys are such losers

[cursive summit]

Profits

[pale sigil]

tbh id just wait for new gen

[glossy panther]

they should spend money on tranquilizer darts and ketamine to keep the board team from releasing reference cards

profits

[cursive summit]

Eh 2021 marks the release of BOTH Ryzen 5000 and 6000 afaik

[glossy panther]

mmm

i mean

[cursive summit]

5000 series is like a "fuck over Intel" stopgap

[ashen spindle]

no point to wait for next gen in ireland, that would be like 2022 I guess

[cursive summit]

6000 series is pure domination

[glossy panther]

if it's more optimal for amd to release $25-100 higher just because they're outperforming intel

they'll do it

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume ye here?

[glossy panther]

8ghz maybe not on silicon

maybe on something else

[cursive summit]

???

10400 is much better than Ryzen for gaming

But what the fuck no Intel CPUs?

[glossy panther]

3600XT beats non K i think now

[cursive summit]

800 price point there is no way the person is affording a 3600

[glossy panther]

yeah

[cursive summit]

I am struggling to insert it there

The GPU is too important

However 10400kf is a solid choice

Problem is

IT DOESN'T EXIST IN IRELAND

[glossy panther]

the best part of buying from that site is

[wheat plume]

what

[glossy panther]

it tells you what you would be paying if you weren't in ireland

[cursive summit]

Made you a rig

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/220093300672167936/759750168555552858/unknown.png

[glossy panther]

or if you're otherwise vat exempt

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume Can you do this?

[wheat plume]

oo yeh

[glossy panther]

aren't there any other monkeys you can buy computer parts from

[wheat plume]

someone made this build also https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/list/f3W2K4

[cursive summit]

Hold up I need to upgrade the damn PSU

You will be doing a big OC

[ashen spindle]

yeah you should go 2x8 over 1x 16 there

[cursive summit]

250 euros or so

[glossy panther]

man i thought buying parts in uruguay was bad

ireland the real 3rd world country

[cursive summit]

I thought you asked for R5 3600 price

[wheat plume]

FML CANT USE MY WIFI CARD FROM THIS PC

it needs power and also its m.2 it seems

There are two wires from the underside of the motherboard that connect to it also

[cursive summit]

aLRIGHT

@wheat plume

Can't get better than this

Fuck me you would be getting the 2x cooler version of 5700

I have the damn blower version

It's still decent but fml I want better cooling

[ashen spindle]

the list is fine but should go 2 sticks over 1 for the ram

[cursive summit]

Quinntosh boy

[ashen spindle]

ehhh, do they not have a 2x kit?

[cursive summit]

More expensive

[ashen spindle]

if not this works too I guess

[cursive summit]

Yeah the prices in Ireland are fucked

[wheat plume]

what about this?https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/list/mVbNk6

[ashen spindle]

that pcpartpicker is not what you want

[cursive summit]

1660Super? 1660?

[wheat plume]

why not?

[cursive summit]

No

[ashen spindle]

bad value

[wheat plume]

it picks parts that are in ireland

[cursive summit]

Bad value, yeah

[pale sigil]

Can we not be toxic guys.

[ashen spindle]

the list vexx made is quite nice

[cursive summit]

I don't think you can go better than mine

[wheat plume]

ok :D

[pale sigil]

The convo was just all over the place.

Lets be nice to eachother.

[ashen spindle]

?

[cursive summit]

We are best buddies here

[ashen spindle]

what convo are you on about lol

[cursive summit]

Now go back to your slumber Callum

[wheat plume]

Ill need to get a wifi card too from another site

[pale sigil]

R3D stuff

[wheat plume]

oh wait, that MOBO has only one pcie slot

[cursive summit]

One x16 slot?

[wheat plume]

yeha

I need one for the wifi card I need to buy too now :/

[cursive summit]

You don't need a full slot for a wifi card

x4 is enough

[wheat plume]

this has one slot

[cursive summit]

I'll check for a better mobo

Wait what

[wheat plume]

this gets so messy ;-;

I need at least 2 slots, wifi card and GPU

[cursive summit]

Oh no it's fine

[wheat plume]

and I need to buy wifi card from another site

yeah
23% import fees

[cursive summit]

Well, this is alright

Wait are midi-towers ATX compatible?

[ashen spindle]

vexx look if they have a wifi board so she doesnt need a wifi card, should be easier

[cursive summit]

Or are they mATX?

They don't

[wheat plume]

they dont

I checked that already

[cursive summit]

Unless

[wheat plume]

I need to use another site

[cursive summit]

We go X570 or B550

[wheat plume]

idk what these numbers mean

[cursive summit]

Nah go to hell, the prices for X570 are insane

Some sort of komplett.ie shop

ye

YES

YES

YES

[wheat plume]

yeh for all but the wifi card

?

[cursive summit]

YEAS

Struck gold right there

Also will be fully compatible with next gen Ryzen

@prisma crag https://www.komplett.ie

[ashen spindle]

yes thats a nice list, if budget is too tight a lower gpu would work but otherwise probably best you can get

[cursive summit]

It's a very solid list

Sadly it's a bit over 900 euros but I guess the person can make it

No need for WiFi card

Can I ask a really dumb question

Is Ireland part of EU?

[ashen spindle]

I'd prefer not having a store in ireland though lul

[reef patrol]

What's what with Komplett? 😛

Yes - Ireland is in the EU. Unlike Brexitland 😄

[cursive summit]

If Ireland is part of EU, shouldn't imports be completely free?

Buy from Europe, eBay preferably

[pale sigil]

I mean

I offered my shit to Lana

[wheat plume]

huh?

[pale sigil]

To forward stuff.

[cursive summit]

What did you offer?

[pale sigil]

To forward stuff from the UK to her.

[reef patrol]

Callum. We've talked about this. You don't offer up your feces to people.

[wheat plume]

when?

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

i cant remember but it was in #🍌│secret-funsize-shenanigans

[wheat plume]

ooh

[cursive summit]

I want access to whatever the #secret_hideout is

Let me in!

[thorn latch]

@wheat plume are you a mod

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nones-nop-gif-4708604

To both

Let me in!

@./Lana.sh are you a mod

[cursive summit]

How much do I have to pay you?

I will buy a lekker

[wheat plume]

Im not a mod xd

[ashen spindle]

1 million dollar

[cursive summit]

Frick

[pale sigil]

Lana is my agent

[ashen spindle]

bitcoin dollar

[wheat plume]

1 million (Vietnamese) Dongs

[cursive summit]

I don't even want to know what agents are

[wheat plume]

They have the best currency name

[cursive summit]

Rupees are still bae

[wheat plume]

Legend of Zelda

[cursive summit]

Anyways

You can't do any better inside of Ireland

Outside of it, who knows

[ashen spindle]

@wheat plume

[wheat plume]

wait, the SSD is pcie also?

[crimson wigeon]

Wait, it's all PCIE?

[wheat plume]

interesting

[cursive summit]

M.2

[ashen spindle]

always has been

[wheat plume]

dang it Quintosh beat me to it

M.2
@cursive summit ooo ok

908 is not too bad I guess

is 700Watt not overkill?

[ashen spindle]

no

[cursive summit]

You will need it

[wheat plume]

how much the GPU use?

[reef patrol]

Not really.

[cursive summit]

The GPU is some 250W isn't it?

[wheat plume]

360 euro GPU holy shit

[reef patrol]

650 is plenty. If anything I'd consider a 750W if you have plans of going for a newer card sometime.

[cursive summit]

You need it

https://www.igorslab.de/en/morepowertool-amd-radeon-rx-5700-and-rx-5700-xt-tweaking-and-overclocking-software/

[ashen spindle]

keep in mind peak efficency for a psu is at 50% load

[cursive summit]

You will be doing this

[reef patrol]

I'll bet AMDs new cards will also demand 750W

[cursive summit]

What you will be doing is bypassing AMD lock

[wheat plume]

I dont want to mess with OC shit

[cursive summit]

And OCing it

You have to

[wheat plume]

no no

I dont want to

[cursive summit]

It will unlock the perf

[pale sigil]

I dont OC my GPU ever.

It doesn't like it.

[wheat plume]

I aint messing with crap like that, I hate it xd

[reef patrol]

You don't need to really. It does it already 😄

[cursive summit]

B550 OC's quite nicely

[pale sigil]

My CPU i cba with temps

[cursive summit]

You don't actually need to OC

[wheat plume]

wait, if I dont do the unlock shit, is this GPU a waste of time then?

[ashen spindle]

spends 23 hours a day messing with the OS
doesnt want to spend 3 hours to get more out of the hardware

:p

[cursive summit]

RX 5700 performs very nicely

Much better than 1660

I'm just saying you are buying a beast of a card if you want to mess with it

[wheat plume]

and more money than them

[pale sigil]

I rarely notice a difference between 4.6ghz and 5ghz

so i dont bother

On my CPU

and on my GPU

[cursive summit]

More money you should spend cause then you are just wasting money

[pale sigil]

well as you said it basically does itelf.

[cursive summit]

1660 is DOA anyways

Especially for 800 euros

[wheat plume]

What if I replace that GPU with a GTX1660TI?

[pale sigil]

crashes my GPU on some games

[cursive summit]

You shouldn't, but then you can go R5 3600

Which will perform less

[pale sigil]

I dont

[wheat plume]

Im happy to go with this build

but if you say "You need to" overclock and unlock it then I wont go with it

[pale sigil]

just saying i tried

[cursive summit]

See you much understand that at your price point you really need the most powerful GPU

[pale sigil]

i need 120fps+

[cursive summit]

I didn't say that

[wheat plume]

you said I need to OC it

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume I will explain this very understandably

[pale sigil]

Dont you have a potato Lana

[cursive summit]

Sorry for the "You have to"

You don't

[wheat plume]

Dont you have a potato Lana
@pale sigil had... yes

[cursive summit]

It's 5700, not the XT

[pale sigil]

What do you have now.

[wheat plume]

this laptop

with no GPU at all

[pale sigil]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

eGPU time.

[wheat plume]

yeah ;-;

no xd

the case is like 500 euro
then the gpu is like 300 euro

thats more money than this CP build

[pale sigil]

Sell your Loli figures

ez

Lol you can have my 1070ti cheap when i replace it.

Dont intent to sell it for its real value.

[wheat plume]

when you replacing?

[pale sigil]

Dec or Jan

Ye i usually give away shit like that.

I sold my 970 when the 1070 came out for like 80 quid lol

i give other stuff away for free though

Id rather sell my old hardware to people who need it for cheap af or free.

than sell it to randos

i plan to sell my entire system - PSU and drives.

CPU: I7 7700k 5GHz (Noctua NH-D15)

RAM: HyperX Fury Black 16GB (8GB x2 Kit) DDR4-2133MHz

GPU: EVGA GTX 1070TI 8GB SC

PSU: EVGA 850W

CASE: Corsair Obsidian 350D```

Hoping to give it to someone who needs it for undervalue

id love to keep old hardware but i need some money for the new system

😄

atm im just waiting for new ryzen cpus + gpus

Though im still leaning more towards the 3080

oh wow

ye thats what ri wanna do

make a nw build

i woud have kept going with this

but 1440p is just no on a 1070ti

and i just kinda want a new system

need more ram

need better cpu etc

SO may as well just go with a new build

i also want to have 2 nvme drives

oh and the dh15, i dont like the colors

xD

I have to much bad luck

2 coolers died on me

And a few of my friends have bad look with kraken, ofc its isolated shit but you know how it is.

[cursive summit]

@pale sigil How much for that rig?

My sister is looking into getting a desktop

[pale sigil]

over 9000

[cursive summit]

I'd buy it honestly,

[pale sigil]

xD

[cursive summit]

FRICK

[pale sigil]

idk tbh

Plus i live in the UK

my ideal case is NZXT atm

love building in them

[reef patrol]

Pretty and easy to work with. Airflow could be better.

The O11 is pricier but so much nicer 😄

[pale sigil]

Why do mobos have to be so expensive x.x

@reef patrol START SELLING HARDWARE WHEN I HAVE MONEY

[reef patrol]

WTS 2080 😛

[pale sigil]

Imagine buying a 2080

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

ill give you 100 quid

xD

Well

dats ugly

actually

could build around it tbf

oh shit

it has pcie 4

WOW

it doesn't cost to muchg

thats mad

there is a black ver

[wheat plume]

Is the ryzen 3 3100 shit?

[reef patrol]

It boosts higher.

But again "IF you can find it"

Obviously if you can, wait for the new Ryzens

[ashen spindle]

Is the ryzen 3 3100 shit?
@wheat plume no it's just the 3300x is even better, but rarely in stock, on itself its still a good option

[wheat plume]

So
Its ok if I don't OC?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[wheat plume]

Alright

But the gpu bottlenecks it

[ashen spindle]

what

[wheat plume]

:/ barely but still

[ashen spindle]

what are you talking about

[wheat plume]

The rx 5700

It bottlenecks the cpu

[ashen spindle]

???no

[wheat plume]

O?

Vexx says it does

But not much

[pale sigil]

mate managed to get a 3300

but they lost it in post

xD

[wheat plume]

.... Wpw

[pale sigil]

So he got a refund

@wheat plume Whats your budget

[wheat plume]

800-900

[solar hinge]

I'm just happy my Asus 3090 tuf comes next Wednesday

[wheat plume]

I'm getting an extra 200 from mom
So I can spend 900

[pale sigil]

I wonder

can you send me your post code in dm

[reef patrol]

You will ALWAYS have a bottleneck, jesus 😄

[wheat plume]

;_;

Aghhh

[pale sigil]

Want my system Lana?

[wheat plume]

It seems good!

How much ?

[pale sigil]

oh

i was kidding

but

if you can wait till ryzen reveal

we can probably sort something out

[wheat plume]

I may have to go with a nvidia card
Even though AMD have open source gpu drivers

Their configuration app only work on redhat and ubuntu

And only certain gpus

To fix screen tearing if it happens

The nvidia app has a way to solve it in the app

The force composite pipeline thing

And then the app adds that to a config file

Does that work on amd?

I thought that was a nvidia fix

Yeah
Makes sense

The file the app adds it to had nvidia on the name

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume i meant amd cpu reveal

im waiting till them till i go with a new system

[wheat plume]

What else would you call it then? :')

Software?

[ashen spindle]

I vote we call it Bababooey

[crimson wigeon]

What AMD configuration app

[wheat plume]

What AMD configuration app
@crimson wigeon exactly

Nvidia have one for linux

AMD don't despite their drivers being built in

[crimson wigeon]

You don't need one anyway, and tearing only happens on Intel & AMD graphics if you want to, you don't need hacks like on Nvidia

[wheat plume]

wdym "if you want to" ?

[crimson wigeon]

If you turn off vsync and/or desktop composition

[wheat plume]

I can have no screen tearing without vsync currently on nvidia

can I achieve that on AMD with Linux?

[crimson wigeon]

Yes because you're using that fullcomposition hack which enforces vsync

[wheat plume]

hmm, is there an AMD version of that?

[crimson wigeon]

AMD does have something similiar, called TearFree that you can toggle whenever wherever

[wheat plume]

oh right

but how?

the app only works for certain cards

and ubuntu and redhat distros

[crimson wigeon]

What app

[cursive summit]

He/she is thinking of Radeon software

[crimson wigeon]

And you can toggle it at runtime with xrandr or make it permanent in xorg.conf..

[cursive summit]

But it can all done through command line

[wheat plume]

:/ ;-;

[crimson wigeon]

Ooorrrr, use Wayland which by design never tears unless you're like me and hack your compositor to allow tearing 😉

[wheat plume]

wayland hates dedicated GPU xd

[crimson wigeon]

wat

[wheat plume]

I used Wayland once on my PC

it didnt like it

I had to force reboot

but wayland works on my laptop no issues

[cursive summit]

You will be buying a brand new PC

It will work well out of the box

[wheat plume]

oh

[cursive summit]

Just buy the damn rig I sent you and be happy with it

See you in the battlefield, commander

[wheat plume]

I will only be happy with it if there is no tearing xd

I notice tearing way too easily

and it just kills me I cant stand it

what gpu?

ah right

did you enable forcecompositepipeline?

[cursive summit]

Why can't you pretend hackers just run normal windows like the rest of the population

[crimson wigeon]

Because it's a pain and wrestles control away from me and then BSOD

[wheat plume]

Yeah -.- I cant solve screen tearing on Windows

even on a lot of popular gaming channels I can see the tearing

[pale sigil]

you shouldn't have screen tearing in windows....

[wheat plume]

I always did

drove me insane

[crimson wigeon]

Still wonder how you manage to accomplish that

[wheat plume]

the control panel didnt do much to solve it

[crimson wigeon]

I'm not even sure you can turn off DWM vsync

[wheat plume]

idk

im taking a risk getting AMD gpu

[pale sigil]

gotta love getting this on a UK server on express vpn

[wheat plume]

because I can solve the issues already on nvidia and IDK how to fix it on AMD if it happens

[crimson wigeon]

Well actually yeah now I remember, when you're using software rendering because you have no graphics drivers installed then DWM tears

[cursive summit]

??

[wheat plume]

yeah, is that all I would need?

[crimson wigeon]

Maybe it gives free tearing

[wheat plume]

is there an AMD version of the NVENC encoder when screen recording in OBS?

[cursive summit]

+10% extra tearing, for free!

[wheat plume]

xd

[pale sigil]

No

[crimson wigeon]

Yes-ish

[pale sigil]

AMD just cant compete with NVENC

[ashen spindle]

yes amd have a nvenc-ish solution

[wheat plume]

NVENC is amazing, can record without performance impact

[cursive summit]

AMD uses H.265 or something?

[ashen spindle]

for your needs its definitely enough

[pale sigil]

NVENC is godly

[wheat plume]

well, I will have a much MUCH better PC now, so even if its not as effectient as recording with NVENC it wont be that bad

[cursive summit]

It'll run without much problem

Linux should also make recording easier, no?

[wheat plume]

Recording on Linux is EZ AF

especially since OBS can automatically get NVENC to work for you

[pale sigil]

its shit tho

[crimson wigeon]

#!/bin/bash
DESIREDTF="on"
if xrandr --props|grep -q -m 1 "TearFree: $DESIREDTF";then
        DESIREDTF="auto"
fi
xrandr --output DisplayPort-0 --set TearFree $DESIREDTF
xrandr --output HDMI-A-0 --set TearFree $DESIREDTF
notify-send -a "TearFree toggler" -u low "TearFree set to $DESIREDTF"```
heh my simple script to toggle TearFree when I was still a plebeian Xorg user, that's how easy it is and also it changes without a modeset

[pale sigil]

OBS NVENC isn't as good as it is in GFE

[cursive summit]

I don't comprehend why people would just torture themselves with Linux when you can just Windows..

[crimson wigeon]

Linux doesn't have GFE to begin with though

[pale sigil]

Sadly

Linux is fun.

[wheat plume]

Windows has the worst screen tearing though

[pale sigil]

id use it if all the shit i need was on there

[wheat plume]

I went back to it for a while on my PC and heck no

[pale sigil]

No it doesn't.

[cursive summit]

On the bright side Windows has a crap ton of tools

[wheat plume]

even in Minecraft I couldnt handle tearing

[pale sigil]

I have never in my life had screen tearing.

[cursive summit]

To fix anything you want

[wheat plume]

^^

[cursive summit]

Try out this

https://ameliorated.info/

[ashen spindle]

Windows has the worst screen tearing
this has nothing to do with windows vs linux at all REEEEEEEEE

[pale sigil]

^^^

[cursive summit]

Ameliorated Win10 afaik is completely free

And removes most of the unnecessary services

[wheat plume]

so free that gaming is dodgy on it

[pale sigil]

Yes but also makes life hard.

[cursive summit]

For performance

[wheat plume]

gaming works until you need dx12

and since it doesnt have updates you cant get dx12

[pale sigil]

Imagine using dx12

[cursive summit]

If you don't want to make your life hard, don't run Linux

[pale sigil]

[crimson wigeon]

The problem with those things is that they shatter the system, e.g. removing Windows Update is just asking for trouble

[wheat plume]

Yeah, thats a bit too far

[pale sigil]

DX12 was a failed dream

[cursive summit]

I have Vulkan for my games

[wheat plume]

Vulkan masterrace

[cursive summit]

Boy I love Ubisoft for Vulkan

R6S didn't run too well thanks to their shitty coding

Vulkan was added, instant glorious PCMR

I think I am running 250FPS on my 3600 and RX5700

[chrome estuary]

Ameliorated win10 just cuts too much shit out and causes more issues than it's worth to actually use.

Playing around with, sure why not. But not actively use.

[pale sigil]

I dont get why people are so tinfoil about Windows

I love Linux a lot but the reasons people dont use windows are just silly.

somewhat

for desktop

Fuck windows for server/micro systems

[cursive summit]

I mean Windows, it

https://tenor.com/view/it-just-works-gif-13181297

I mean it really just works

I never used a different system than Windows

[chrome estuary]

Also with Linux and Windows on screen tearing. Unless you're running one of the big heavy DEs with Linux. You almost always have screen tearing unless you get lucky with your set up of shit like compiz

And even then I seem to get a little here and there

[cursive summit]

Dunno I just used Linux Mint

And it's alright

But way too inconvenient

[chrome estuary]

Also some games just plainly do not like to be played on Linux no matter what you do. And switching to Linux full time would be a pain because to get the most out of it... I'd have to delete and redownload a fuck ton of games which would take literally weeks or more to do on my slow ass Internet

And dual booting isn't a viable option because sometimes your asshole friends stop wanting to play the game or something pops up or etc etc by the time you're into windows

[wheat plume]

how slow your PC boot if your friends leave the game by the time your PC is ready?

[chrome estuary]

Seconds

[wheat plume]

..

[chrome estuary]

I've got a fuckin NVME drive for windows

[wheat plume]

do they have the attention span of a goldfish?

[chrome estuary]

No but sometimes things pop up and they can't play or they just don't want to anymore

[cursive summit]

I need a good Firefox replacement

Firefox been really working poorly

YouTube has this weird glitch where it always disconnects me

Other websites do not load at all

Or just have weird glitches

Anything that's a good replacement to Firefox?

And fuck Edge or Chrome

[solar hinge]

safari 😄

[cursive summit]

I am about to give Opera GX a try

[ashen spindle]

ah yes opera, the company that stayed above bankruptcy by being a credit shark and "scamming" people

very trustworthy

[cursive summit]

What was the new one

Brave?

Firefox's not Chrome?

[wheat plume]

Firefox is life

[cursive summit]

I had enough of chromium

I dunno

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling it

Didn't work at all

Same bugs

[pale sigil]

FireFox is not cromium

thank god

[cursive summit]

Then again I am not guaranteed it's not my connection

I don't trust it

[pale sigil]

I miss firefox

i use brave atm

i had to many issues with firefox

when it came to google sites

x.x

fuckin google man

i hate chromium too

[crimson wigeon]

I don't like how chromium based browsers work so Firefox is the only choice for me

[wheat plume]

I use chrome only for Youtube
so I sandbox youtube in its own application and only log into that and u se Firefox for browsing everything else

its great :D
full media key support when in a playlist

and play/pause key support when not in a playlist

i use mpv too xd

but mpv has issues recently

failing to play some videos

I know

idc enough about audio quality as long as its not total shit

[pale sigil]

thats just a web app

not a sandbox

it still interacts with chrome

firefox can do it too

I use chrome only for Youtube

[wheat plume]

ive used Ice SSB

[pale sigil]

Oh

i just do this.

You can create anything as a web app

[wheat plume]

wat

[pale sigil]

much easier

sec

[wheat plume]

easier than this?

[pale sigil]

ye

[wheat plume]

nah xd

I find it odd how everyone is hyped up for the new Linux Mint web app manager

but Peppermint had Ice for years now

and they both do the same thing

[pale sigil]

took me 2 clicks

https://mrpl.me/l72712b_rfs8.mp4

[wheat plume]

Mint's version looks almost the same

there is a lot more coverage of it than Ice ever got

I never saw a video about Ice

but I have seen like 5 videos for Mints version recently

I guess it is more relevant now since more app are just websites anyway

[pale sigil]

isn't exactly sanboxed https://mrpl.me/y32714b_rf04.mp4

but it works incredibly well

[wheat plume]

ive got to eat and pack up and go pick up friend

wooooooooooooooooo

all in the next hour

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume @fair gull make a youtube music client that works on Linux

https://github.com/BigBrainAFK/YouTube-Music-Client

Another option

[wheat plume]

O.o Dang Tony

[pale sigil]

https://github.com/BigBrainAFK/YouTube-Music-Client/releases

[fair gull]

u can

compile that shit urself

[wheat plume]

screenshot anywhere?

[pale sigil]

.AppImage is linux isn't it

[wheat plume]

yeh

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/gz1XGyrA8w.png

[wheat plume]

oh, its the website in a local app

I see

neat

[pale sigil]

works with discord too

[fair gull]

@wheat plume yes altho on windows it has some extras

[pale sigil]

its neat

xo

[wheat plume]

what type of extras?

[fair gull]

media controls in window preview

and a progress bar to show song progress

[wheat plume]

oh right
do media keys work?

on linux

[fair gull]

should work

[wheat plume]

aha

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/gXfyApXnJO.png https://discordjs.moe/bqLXSZAq0w.png

[chrome estuary]

yeah that's kinda neat, i'll admit

[fair gull]

but ya mainly for global media keys

cause usually firefox and chrome fuck those

unless ure in the actual tab

[wheat plume]

ive never had issues with media keys in chrome

Firefox only likes the play/pause key ;-;

[fair gull]

for the next version im working on hooking the loading of yt's settings window

[chrome estuary]

it's working for me in other windows on firefox

[fair gull]

and then injecting client settings

like changing output device

[pale sigil]

Tony is a god.

[fair gull]

and a "resume where u left of"

[pale sigil]

Tony to make Wootility 3.0

[fair gull]

no

[wheat plume]

ahahah

[pale sigil]

Yes you have no choice now

[fair gull]

i have multiple choices

[wheat plume]

exactly
.AppImage
.dmg
.exe

its great

[pale sigil]

Speaking of

have you used react

[fair gull]

i kinda hate react

ngl

or well

[pale sigil]

how come

[fair gull]

not react directly

but the average react user

[wheat plume]

LOL

[fair gull]

since those usually go so overboard and implement it shit that we suffer

by slow as websites

its why people "hate js"

[pale sigil]

Its good money

[fair gull]

i dont code for money

policy of keeping the only hobby i actually like

oh right useragent switcher will also come

[pale sigil]

i feel like its my only path

I love web stuff

[wheat plume]

Plasma desktop lets you change user agent

its really neat

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/mNj9Z-_L4Jk.png

[pale sigil]

stop making me me miss firefox

[fair gull]

why?

chrome can do it aswell

chromium

aswell

most browsers have plugins if they dont natively support it

[chrome estuary]

idk why i hop between chromium and firefox so much

[pale sigil]

nah i meant just seeing the sight of it

[chrome estuary]

sometimes i'll get annoyed at one and hop to the other

but i can never remember why I hopped in the first place after a while

[wheat plume]

the sight of the plasma browser ID settings panel?

[pale sigil]

My firefox is heavy in terms of privacy

nothing is saved and everything is sanboxed

every single tab

[wheat plume]

oo

[pale sigil]

its tedious

[fair gull]

for me everything is saved and nothing is sandboxed

i hate sand in my shoes

[pale sigil]

but like, i kept having issues with google based apps

as well google slow down other browsers

and some compatibility issues in general

[fair gull]

well i have to use chrome to reverse yt music events

cause firefox's dev tab cant even resolve the custom event names

[pale sigil]

i used ot be able to use old youtube

but google stopped it

;--;

[chrome estuary]

y'know, i really want the z fold 2

I don't want to buy one. I just want one.

[thorn latch]

is it argb

heade

r

[ashen spindle]

the board has 2 as you see on the image? not sure what the question is

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/5cjgVoAsww.png

prob has no rgb header id say

[pale sigil]

Dont like rgb

burn it

[reef patrol]

Aura RGB is not digital/aRGB/Addressable, no.

That's oldschool 12v RGB

[cursive summit]

?

What the fuck are these prices

[ashen spindle]

lul

[thorn latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458661297102520331/759807598224212021/unknown.png

this is tho ight

its only £86

[cursive summit]

Why are you looking at B450 boards?

B550 is here, the future is now old man

[thorn latch]

its more expensive

and doesnt supot 2nd gen

[pale sigil]

Why get a new mobo for 2nd gen

[thorn latch]

becose 3rd gen mobo with arrgb is twice as much

[cursive summit]

Can someone rate me this?

https://www.dlink.com/en/products/dir-882-exo-ac2600-mu-mimo-wi-fi-router

I can get one for a heavy discount

Well by heavy I mean 30$

If it's not that good, I can just go for a Tp-Link AC1200

But if it's powerful and worth the money (100$), I'll pick it up

Not to mention it's not much of a loss for me to actually pick up the more expensive one

I can sell my router/modem worth 150$

Too bad it's shit, max 5GHz speed is 433mbps

[misty pier]

hm.. both look pretty good

are you going to flash it with a custom firmware?

[zenith mirage]

RGB

[cursive summit]

There is custom firmware for routers?

I got the Dlink one

It seems really good

[misty pier]

yeah, there are custom firmware that lets you do more than the stock firmware on most routers

although you could brick it if you don't install it correctly

[cursive summit]

Yeah I don't think I want to do that

I don't do much with routers

Other than the basic internet functionality

What else can you do with one?

I know there is this wireless storage you can do

Hook up an external HDD to the router and you can access it via any device on the network

But.. eh?

[old marlin]

so basically your GPU completely cucks the CPU

[ashen spindle]

uhh, for a 4k+ target that sounds normal?

[old marlin]

series X has a fixed clock

[ashen spindle]

also I thought smart shift is dynamic and not just fixed profiles?

[old marlin]

at 3.8/3.6 for the CPU and 1.8 for the GPU

apparently not?

[shadow minnow]

Anyone here that has knowledge about doing PCBs... ? I have finished designing pcb for 12v -> QC 3.0 just now, but it is second pcb I have ever done, and would be nice if any of you could find time and check it. If yes, please DM/tag me.

[old marlin]

also demon souls for example is not a 4K title

1440p 60fps

with drops

[ashen spindle]

true 4k will still be a future goal for either console,it's still just a fancy APU

[old marlin]

yea ik

but series X has a higher sustained clock

with a more powerful GPU to begin with

[ashen spindle]

well yeah, they just decided they wanted to not win by having the better hardware and instead release the S and say one X is still supported as well

[old marlin]

oh

also the thermal design seems like ass in comparison

[ashen spindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ idk enough about that, but we'll get feedback on taht fairly soon after release

[old marlin]

if you buy 5 fill price titles at release the extra cost of series x vs ps5 all digital are already offset