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reef tundra
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chrome uses a lot of resources to do little to no work

proud nacelle
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Mhm

reef tundra
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Every tab gets its own pool of resources (in chrome)

proud nacelle
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Pidgin only uses 81m virt, 37.4m res and 27.6m shr

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Not to mention every multiple tabs.

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Wow I phrased that terribly

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What I meant is there's a bunch of processes.

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Infact I only use ungoogled-chromium on Windows (in a vm) for the voice chat ability. Otherwise, palemoon or netsurf all the way possible.

reef tundra
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That is less than the client would need

proud nacelle
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Sad state of the world we live in.

reef tundra
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for me the official client needs 4.7% of my memory while the alternative takes only 0.7% While rarely reporting 0.1% core use. (official periodic peak around 1,5% with 0.7 % base core util)

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lol

proud nacelle
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Yep.

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Not to mention the fucking official client has sound issues and desktop sharing issues too since the longest amount of time.

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Also pulseaudio being forced.

reef tundra
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also it only has 1 process count instead of 9

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oh yea

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this one can use alsa directly

proud nacelle
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Which one are you using?

reef tundra
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eyy, no more stutter when pulseaudio has been started after discord while discord just dies finding a ghost pulseaudio

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also why doesnt it check that beforehand?

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firefox does it

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currently using ripcord

proud nacelle
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Oh? I thought firefox dropped alsa, did they revert that?

reef tundra
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not firefox, the client

proud nacelle
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Oh woops.

reef tundra
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firefox has gone full pulseaudio

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which support alsa thought itself

proud nacelle
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I remember seeing ripcord actually.

reef tundra
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but latency

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jk

proud nacelle
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apulse to the rescue.

reef tundra
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just annoying sometimes

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as pulseaudio could be set incorrectly in either on but better check both

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alsamixer and pulsemixer

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also microsoft teams is the worst piece of incompatible software if encountered yet

proud nacelle
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holy shit yes

reef tundra
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it is skype

proud nacelle
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I can't even run it in like 5 different browsers

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Not to mention even the fucking desktop app fails

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The only fucking thing that worked was the shitty mobile app

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Which I removed afterwards

reef tundra
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and everything works in alsa, pulse but NOT IN ITSELF. JUST SEND THE DATA YOU GET DONT ADD NOISE TO IT

proud nacelle
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Biggest piece of garbage I've seen yet.

reef tundra
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you cant even spoonfeed it the data

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it just has to add its fuckery algoritms

proud nacelle
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Long live text chat

reef tundra
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Also can it adhere to the modern filefolder structure?

proud nacelle
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Man

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XDG is also a fucking disaster

reef tundra
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at least it some standard

proud nacelle
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Yeah but no one respects it

reef tundra
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if they are not native to linux they wont

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most are as more are using it

proud nacelle
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cue mpv dev.

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also any game ever

reef tundra
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mpv seems to respect the standard somewhat

proud nacelle
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were

reef tundra
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or it is aur fixing it already

proud nacelle
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afaik the mpv dev flipped out and stopped adhering to it

reef tundra
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Dont know about that, cant be bothered to find out. It works and that makes me happy enough

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XDG should remove the capital letters in the pathing

proud nacelle
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XDG shouldn't even need to exist IMO

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There should be documentation instead of where people are supposed to store things.

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If a user wants .config moved, they don't need to move XDG_config or whatever, they can just symlink the folder.

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As for programs which refuse to follow symlinks, what the fuck is wrong with them?

reef tundra
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ehhh you update the export path?

proud nacelle
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I don't, people can however.

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I just personally symlink stuff.

plush summit
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Mage I need your help

reef tundra
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XDG uses the environment variables to define the paths and some people cant handle having symlinks

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file in home = bad (according to their logic)

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eh, in the end user defines how it functions

proud nacelle
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was afk, r00d, what u need?

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no idea if this works but gonna try pinging @365619937122844672

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Can anyone tell me if that converted to a ping or not, I can't see it

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actually after further looking I think it's supposed to be something along the lines of @plush summit

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Huzzah it works

plush summit
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hello?

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yes

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i need your help

proud nacelle
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Hi yeah sorry I didn't respond before

plush summit
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if you will listem to me

proud nacelle
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Go ahead

plush summit
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i cant tell if you just dont care or genuinely go out of your way to avoid me given our past

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anywho

proud nacelle
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I was afk mate

plush summit
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i want to use btrfs snapshots

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thats fine

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just i dont see you active often

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when when i do ping you dont respond (guessing your are busy or hate me)

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ANYWAY

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i want to create subvolumes for my root and home

proud nacelle
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sounds simple enough

plush summit
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btrfs subvolume create /mnt/@

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btrfs subvolume create /mnt/@home

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however

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i want the home subvolume to be on another disk

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and then i want to mount that subvolume where home is to the root

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so i dont take up space of my root partition with my home folder

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how do i do this

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here is what i tried so far

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mount $RootPart /mnt
btrfs subvolume create /mnt/@
umount $RootPart
mount $HomePart /mnt
btrfs subvolume create /mnt/@home
umount $HomePart
mount -o compress=lzo,subvol=@,noatime $RootPart /mnt
mkdir -p /mnt/home
mount -o compress=lzo,subvol=@home,noatime $HomePart /mnt/home
mkdir -p /mnt/boot/efi
mount $BootPart /mnt/boot/efi```
proud nacelle
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See I'll be upfront with you

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I don't have much experience with brtfs

plush summit
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dammit

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i was hoping you would know

proud nacelle
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But the way I would do it if I wasn't using it, would be something along these lines

plush summit
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because i am stuck

proud nacelle
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I would create a partition on both disks for brtfs, then mount /dev/disk2 to /home/

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At least that's with regular ext2/3/4

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I'll look for a solution meanwhile however.

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Oh wait

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Why are you mounting it at /mnt?

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If you want it to be in /mnt still, just use mount --rbind to mount it to /home

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Even regular bind should be fine.

plush summit
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?

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i dont understand

proud nacelle
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Let me reread to be sure

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Ok so you have two disks with two brtfs partitions total right?

reef tundra
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does $RootPart have the full absolute path?

plush summit
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YES

proud nacelle
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Ok.

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So you just want to mount your @home or whatever at /home/user/ right?

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Since you already mounted it at /mnt/home, at least that's what I can see from the above

plush summit
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yes

proud nacelle
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Ok you want to use mount bind then.

plush summit
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erm

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no?

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what i posted above doesnt work

proud nacelle
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:Oh

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Well shet

plush summit
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it says there is no valic mount point for /mnt/home

proud nacelle
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Odd

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Should be valid

plush summit
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do i need to mount and create a directory in the second disk?

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even then im not sure how to do that

reef tundra
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Also you need root user

plush summit
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this is different from mounting with ext4

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not a problem

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i am doing this durign install

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i am automaticaly root durign install

reef tundra
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and you chroot into the install later?

proud nacelle
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He's making a script to automate installs

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afaik

plush summit
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yes

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oncme this is figured out ill update the one on github

proud nacelle
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uh

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about that

plush summit
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?

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yeah, git was removed and so was wget

proud nacelle
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Nono not that.

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I searched some of the stuff you posted and found something that might be what you're looking for?

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Unless that is what you are using and are redesigning it for yourself

plush summit
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i looked long and hard

proud nacelle
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Scroll down a bit, there is some brtfs and @home stuff

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Not sure if it will be of any use to you however.

plush summit
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I DONT thing this is what i want

proud nacelle
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Right but ignoring that, what about the mount stuff?

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Can you take any knowledge from there?

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Because otherwise I'm all out of ideas. I don't use brtfs at all.

plush summit
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i just want to mount a subvolume to anothther subvolume

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or erm

proud nacelle
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You can't directly mount a thing into another thing

plush summit
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mount a folder in a subvolume to a the root in another subvolume

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like

proud nacelle
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That literally sounds like mount bind. Unless I really don't understand

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You can't mount it to the root however

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No way possible.

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Since the root is the base of the disk, you either unmount the disk or do not mount the subfolder you are talking about.

plush summit
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mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda3
mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda4

mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
mkdir -p /boot/efi
mkdir /mnt/home
mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/home
proud nacelle
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Which are neither what you want.

plush summit
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this is what i want to do

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but with folders undera btrfs subvolume

proud nacelle
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Ok where is your currently working brtfs setup

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Ignoring the mount process

plush summit
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nowhere

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i havent been able to do it

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so i reset and start with a fresh slate

proud nacelle
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what

plush summit
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the fresh slate is having 2 disks /dev/sda3 and /dev/sdb1 formated with btrfs

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ive been testing this in a virtual machine before i deploy it on my hardware

proud nacelle
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Ok...

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What is the 2nd disk

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As in, why does it have a folder in it?

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If it's gonna be the user, why not just keep it simple and just make the root dir of the 2nd disk as the user?

plush summit
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BECAUSE I WAnt to be able to make use of btrfs snapshots

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the data needs to be under a subvolume

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and preferably, i would like this sdisk with this subvolume to contain my home folder

proud nacelle
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Actually, wouldn't
mount -o compress=lzo,subvol=@home,noatime $HomePart /mnt/home
be
mount -o compress=lzo,subvol=@/home (mailto:subvol=@home),noatime $HomePart /mnt/home

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Because subvol @ is the root, right?

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Or well, the root of that brtfs thing.

plush summit
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mailto?

proud nacelle
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but @home is whatever

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oh shit

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did it replace it with mailto?

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lmao

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hold up

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mount -o compress=lzo,subvol=@home,noatime $HomePart /mnt/home
is what you tried right?

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oh for fuck sakes

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right let me just do this instead then

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mount -o compress=lzo,subvol=!home,noatime $HomePart /mnt/home

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where ! is @

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The correct thing would be
mount -o compress=lzo,subvol=!/home,noatime $HomePart /mnt/home
no?

plush summit
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i dont know

proud nacelle
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Try it

plush summit
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i was hoping you would know

proud nacelle
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Because !home isn't root, it's some random garbage at least going from the documentation

plush summit
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@ is root

proud nacelle
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Exactly

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You are trying to do !home

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Which isn't a thing

plush summit
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i thought @home would be a subdir under @proud nacelle

proud nacelle
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It's not valid

plush summit
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wtf

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@home

proud nacelle
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do @/home

plush summit
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sorry for the ping

proud nacelle
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no worries

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just try it

plush summit
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well

proud nacelle
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can't hurt

plush summit
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im not going to do so now

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its bed time

proud nacelle
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fuck

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wait

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pretty sure this is the solution

plush summit
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i tried mounting @/home

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no dice

proud nacelle
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what

plush summit
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i looked at that solution

proud nacelle
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how the fuck

plush summit
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iit didnt work for me

proud nacelle
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hold the fuck up

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Why the fuck would it not work

plush summit
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

proud nacelle
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ffs tomorrow i'm gonna fucking try installing btrfs

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and doing what you are trying to do

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and as a parting gift

plush summit
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was that a joke?

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becuse gparted

proud nacelle
plush summit
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and parted

proud nacelle
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Not intentional

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But sure

plush summit
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and why a parting gift

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are you leaving?

proud nacelle
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I'll play with btrfs tmrw and see if I can resolve the issue

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No

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Well leaving as in going to bed?

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Like

plush summit
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oh

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yeah

proud nacelle
plush summit
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i thought you were leaving wooting

proud nacelle
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Haha no

plush summit
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never to be seen again

proud nacelle
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Yeah bout that

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Even if I wanted to

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People like @pale sigil wouldn't let me.

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Fuck sake

plush summit
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XD

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nice job

proud nacelle
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Why can't I get anything right tonight

plush summit
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you pinged them

pale sigil
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I’m awake what did I miss

proud nacelle
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Oh did I?

reef tundra
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The language of the gods

plush summit
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SCATTER!

reef tundra
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look at that

plush summit
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anywho

proud nacelle
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On my screen I didn't

plush summit
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thanks mage

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goodnight

proud nacelle
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gn

plush summit
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sleep well

proud nacelle
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I'll take a look tmrw

plush summit
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thankyou

proud nacelle
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You too.

plush summit
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let me know what you find

proud nacelle
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Sure thing

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infact

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i shouldn't but

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i'm gonna spin up a vm rn

pale sigil
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Wot

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You two getting along, this is weird.

proud nacelle
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Shush

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Don't you dare curse it

reef tundra
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both having similair icon

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oh no

pale sigil
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I don’t think I woke up

reef tundra
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you did to a nightmare

proud nacelle
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^

reef tundra
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reality is one level up

plush summit
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we have something in common

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linux

reef tundra
plush summit
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||and furries, im just more cancerous than they are||

proud nacelle
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Well

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That's a you problem

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No one is making you be like that

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GIMP - Green Is My Pepper

reef tundra
plush summit
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I really need some rest

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Getting wisdom teeth out sucks

proud nacelle
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Rip your wisdom

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Also was definitively not my first experience with Linux.

reef tundra
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Now you are a unwise toothless

proud nacelle
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Was that intentional

plush summit
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My first experience with Linux was Arch Linux

proud nacelle
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*linux mint*

reef tundra
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Ofcourse I always play 67d chess

proud nacelle
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oh actually

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android would be my first one

plush summit
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I tried to install Linux Mint on my grandmother's computer and for some reason it has a problem to wear the Wi-Fi turns on every other reboot and then doesn't work for the opposite reboot

reef tundra
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

plush summit
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I'm going to the forums and nobody can figure it out

proud nacelle
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since technically speaking android is linux

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simple solution

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use ethernet

plush summit
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It's as Linux as apple is UNIX

proud nacelle
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Apple isn't even unix

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it's bsd

reef tundra
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its like calling a nuke an solution for cold room

proud nacelle
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actually now that i even think more about it

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do set top boxes count?

reef tundra
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Does the abbacus count

plush summit
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What is that

proud nacelle
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box for tv and other shit. also modems now that i think of it

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too many things run linux

plush summit
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XD

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You know what doesn't?

reef tundra
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everything began with hello world

proud nacelle
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but can't seem to fucking **standardize** on distros, tools, etc.

plush summit
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Windows

proud nacelle
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WELL

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WSL

plush summit
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The latest windows update completely broke WSL

proud nacelle
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AWSL sounds better

plush summit
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You tipe faster than me

reef tundra
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Are you trying to give me an heart attack in %any?

proud nacelle
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%any?

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what

reef tundra
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speedrun any exploits etc

proud nacelle
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lul

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i couldn't speedrun worth for shit

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actually

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speedrun for destroying my linux install

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that i can do

plush summit
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XD

reef tundra
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getting banned of yanderedev discord

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hahahahah

proud nacelle
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an accidental slash here, an accidental argument there, shazam! root is gone!

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get banned from club penguin

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that's an actual thing

reef tundra
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message a mod that he should stop molesting children. you get one in seconds

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hehe

proud nacelle
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message any admin or mod on whatever

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banned

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no exceptions

reef tundra
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on personal email

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ultimate power move

proud nacelle
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how the fuck do you ban an email

plush summit
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Maybe I should create a furry distribution of Linux

reef tundra
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it exists

proud nacelle
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*wait, that's illegal*

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no

reef tundra
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and i wont talk about it

proud nacelle
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i fucking refuse to believe that

reef tundra
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i try to forget

proud nacelle
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now he's gonna go looking for it

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calling it

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also tfw banned for playing the game.

reef tundra
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There is also a hannah montana distro

proud nacelle
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satan edition

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and christian one too

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i think

plush summit
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I'm aware of Hannah Montana Linux

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I'm surprised there isnt an porn linux

proud nacelle
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That would be LFS

plush summit
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What is the lfs

proud nacelle
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*linux from scratch*

plush summit
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Oh

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I remember one of the assignments was to compile our own Linux kernel and install it

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People had weird problems such as segmentation faults

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4 out of 40 students got it done

proud nacelle
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*[laughs in make cd /usr/src/linux && make -j9 && make install]*

reef tundra
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make clean install

proud nacelle
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No need to if it's already clean to begin with

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And you still don't

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Unless you broke something horribly

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Like the bad child you are.

reef tundra
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you need to clean it from the dirty .o files the make makes

proud nacelle
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No you don't?

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I literally never clean it mate

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Never had an issue.

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Issue rises when you have a broken .c file. Then you need to clean.

reef tundra
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It will become a mess

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run

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ahhhhh

proud nacelle
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anyway back to messing with vms

crimson wigeon
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Yeah you're supposed to do mrproper instead of clean

reef tundra
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Voooooooo mas

proud nacelle
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mrproper and clean do different things too

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Be careful

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One of them clears .configs

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Not a fun time

reef tundra
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just rm -rf / to make sure you got it all

proud nacelle
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nah

crimson wigeon
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If you're not redoing your config every time you're doing it wrong

proud nacelle
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Nono

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I mean the clean/mrproper

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One of them cleans the .config

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Bullshit having to redo it all

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I've done it multiple times like an idiot

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I still don't have backups

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Of any type.

reef tundra
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true random number generator untill it gives a valid configs folder

proud nacelle
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Actually

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There is a way for it to randomly generate

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But it's not for working configs

crimson wigeon
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And you don't include the config in the kernel itself for easy restoration?

proud nacelle
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It's for seeing if shit still compiles or not

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I am aware that is a thing

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But

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I forget

reef tundra
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Rip no piping in this kernel

proud nacelle
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Also having to extract is pita

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You need a special tool

reef tundra
crimson wigeon
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Gunzip isn't that special

reef tundra
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unzip

proud nacelle
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whereis gunzip

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gunzip:

reef tundra
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tar -FLAGSBUTWITCHWERETHEYAHHHHHHHH

proud nacelle
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*this is fine*

crimson wigeon
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Oh you're that minimal

proud nacelle
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Yes

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Like the professional retard I am

reef tundra
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You either go full retard or die with segfault

proud nacelle
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What's that phrase

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You become the thing you were gainst

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against

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live long enough to see yourself become monster

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urgh

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can't remember

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potato brain

reef tundra
proud nacelle
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Yes

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Thank you

reef tundra
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learn to use your brain. mine is just only good for remembering boomer memes

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is it a dlc?

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can i unlock the rest of my brain?

proud nacelle
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I genuinely hate anyone who puts anime in their video which has no relevance to anime.

reef tundra
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that is not vibe check passing grade worty of you mister

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this incident will be reported "this incident will be reported"

proud nacelle
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:ree:

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this makes no sense to me

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btrfs cannot be partitionless

reef tundra
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filty prank

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make it a ntfs for memes

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we need to cripple ourselfs

proud nacelle
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Don't know if my last message got sent

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But I see the issue r00d was having

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ssl error or something blocked me

reef tundra
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blocked

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by

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root

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matrix

proud nacelle
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pff

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matrix can't block me if there is nothing to block

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*taps head*

reef tundra
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cant block me if i do my pcie bussiness over usb

proud nacelle
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Ok why over usb

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And secondly

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What business

reef tundra
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because pcie has the root matrix

proud nacelle
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*wat*

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also

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i fuckin figured it out

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i think

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you literally just need to mount the path

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Before he was doing
mount -o compress=lzo,subvol=!home,noatime $HomePart /mnt/home
the correct way is literally
mount -o compress=lzo,subvol=home,noatime $HomePart /mnt/home

reef tundra
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from the device to the location

proud nacelle
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you can also figure out the subvolume name

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by doing btrfs subvolume list ./(root of btrfs)

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you just need to fill in what is given after "path"

reef tundra
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and then he turned himself into a pickle

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big reveal

proud nacelle
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then again i might be a retard and i might have misunderstood his question

reef tundra
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expectations subverted yet again

proud nacelle
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i can't ping him

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fuck

reef tundra
#

haha bad radar

#

no ping

proud nacelle
#

like

#

this pidgin thing

#

horribly limited

reef tundra
#

no you

proud nacelle
#

actually

#

hold the fuck up

reef tundra
#

shit

#

run

#

he is shooting back

proud nacelle
#

not sure if this will ping him

#

@r00d l0bster(sleep deprived)

#

let me guess

#

i chucked it

#

@plush summit

#

mount -o compress=lzo,subvol=home,noatime $HomePart /mnt/home

#

this should work

#

tested it before going to bed

#

remove @, just put the dir name

reef tundra
#

rm @proud nacelle

proud nacelle
#

chief

reef tundra
#

lol it autofilled you

proud nacelle
#

i'm gonna fucking ping your ass

#

@reef tundra

reef tundra
#

I have anti-radar on this destroyer ship

#

haha

proud nacelle
#

well fuck you your ship might be anti radar but it sure as hell ain't fucking anti eyes

#

:eyes:

reef tundra
#

That is why you have naval guns onboard

#

you make the eyes go dead

proud nacelle
#

chief

#

wat about spy stas

#

sats*

reef tundra
#

spying is for the weak. you rush and clear site

proud nacelle
#

can't rush if we're retreating

reef tundra
#

Then hold site to take site then move up

proud nacelle
#

how about

#

this discussion is making no sensical fucking sense

#

and that i am tired

reef tundra
#

hmmm yes but could it

proud nacelle
#

well no

#

seriously though

#

goodnight

#

no clue if i even pinged him right since my shit is wack

reef tundra
#

go sleep

proud nacelle
#

guess i'll find out tmrw

#

boi you're one to talk

reef tundra
#

sleep you must

proud nacelle
#

well you too

#

unless you're in europe

#

aight gn for real now

vagrant marsh
#

Unless

#

If ur in europe its smart to sleep at 5am

crimson wigeon
#

Network effect 😦

vagrant marsh
#

Mastodon?

#

@ashen spindle the cooler moved during transport!

#

Thats what thry mailed back lol

solar hinge
#

@vagrant marsh cooler?

vagrant marsh
#

Yea. That it moved during transport

#

I call bullcrap. There is no residual thermal paste on the exposed part

old marlin
#

someone ever heard of salt networking hardware?

vagrant marsh
#

Yea, made by TrollTech, right?

old marlin
#

idk

vagrant marsh
old marlin
#

yea friend moved to switzerland

#

and he pays 40 CHF for 10G

#

and got a router from them

zenith sonnet
#

So, in the end, for gamingnAmpere is just larger Turing chips (similar perf/watt) with better memory

halcyon moss
#

better price too

zenith sonnet
#

Or, given equal memory, will it have worse perf/watt

cursive summit
timid chasm
#

Looks like EVGA RMA'd my 1080 Ti with a 2080. Do they actually not have 1080 Ti's or parts or just want to move 2080 stock out?

reef patrol
#

Makes perfect sense for them not to have 1080TIs anymore. Honestly even 2000 series seems unlikely.

old marlin
#

well

#

fading out by now

timid chasm
#

I figured they'd at least have parts for a repair. They've been selling b-stock 2080's and Ti's like crazy I think though

#

Figured. I bought a pcie usb-c card a while back for quest link and now I have a virtual link connection

#

Unless it doesn't work which is terrible

ashen spindle
#

uhhh I'm pretty sure the quest connects with a regular sub port, usually A not c

#

dont think they use the usb on a gpu

#

and it's probably cheaper for them to just send you a card they cant really get rid of anymore, instead of spending work time to fix it :p

timid chasm
#

that's true

reef patrol
#

Internet goes ....

old marlin
#

oof

halcyon moss
#

thats a lot of fibre

reef patrol
#

About 400 lines there. It's a main line cable.

ashen spindle
#

ohhhhhh I was so confused

reef patrol
ashen spindle
#

I thought thats like a bread with colored sugar crumbs on it

pale sigil
#

Not sure why but the first image just makes me puke

old marlin
#

@reef patrol all of them have a bit of ground on them dogeKek

reef patrol
halcyon moss
#

someone is gonna have a lot of fun splicing those together

reef patrol
#

I guess it kind of looks like if you chopped through a bone, Callum. A clown's bones maybe.

#

( Carnival music )

pale sigil
#

Nah that isn’t what makes me sick.

#

I think it’s the colours that trigger me

#

Along with it looking similar to ugh what’s that phobia again

reef patrol
#

Oh the hole thing? Tryptophobia?

pale sigil
#

Ye

halcyon moss
#

is it fibre?

reef patrol
#

Looks like copper.

#

But I guess it could be fiber.

pale sigil
#

Isn’t fibre

thick elk
#

considering its electrical wires, it definitely is not fiber / optical.

reef patrol
#

Electrical? In such small wires? Seems... odd? I figured they ran thicker ones to reduce loss of energy. This isn't in a house after all. It's a main line cable they accidentally dug up while redoing the road.

halcyon moss
#

telephone lines?

reef patrol
#

Those are... copper. And used purely for internet here. So.. 😄

halcyon moss
#

couldnt tell from the pixels :p

pale sigil
#

you can easily tell fibre

ashen spindle
#

honestly 20gb is a bit much, 14/16 would be more than enough and prob a bit cheaper/cooler

#

hell even 12 would be nice

zenith sonnet
#

@timid chasm Show them the Doom 4K benchmark and claim it's not equal

#

14/16 would be a very odd configuration

#

Like, 10 chips on the top and 4 or 6 on the bottom?

pale sigil
#

@neat oriole i need your help again

#

on audio

zenith sonnet
#

@ashen spindle What they also 'confirmed' is: no Ti cards, but what looks like some Super models?

ashen spindle
#

ok gigabyte is actually insane

#

they made a blower style cooler

#

for a 3090

#

I need to know how loud this will be

crimson wigeon
#

MMm can't wait for the jet engine memes

ashen spindle
#

wanna bet if it goes above or below a 290x in terms of noise?

plush summit
#

@proud nacelle so what do i need to do?

plush summit
#
mount $RootPart /mnt
btrfs subvolume create /mnt/@ #makes root subvolume
umount $RootPart

mount $HomePart /mnt
btrfs subvolume create /mnt/@home #makes home sub vol on seperate disk or partiton
umount $HomePart
#

what do i do now

#

i dont know them, callum

crimson wigeon
#

Now you can do something like sh mount -o subvol=@ $RootPart /mnt mkdir -p /mnt/home mount -o subvol=@home $HomePart /mnt/home

plush summit
#

so

#
mount -o compress=lzo,subvol=@,noatime $RootPart /mnt```
this is correct for mounting the root
#

but when i do bash mount -o compress=lzo,subvol=@home,noatime $HomePart /mnt/home
i get an error that no such directory exists

crimson wigeon
#

Yes hence why I put the mkdir in there

plush summit
#

ok

#

so i have it right in my script

#

and then to mount boot i dobash mkdir -p /mnt/boot/efi mount $BootPart /mnt/boot/efi

#

how to i view the btrfs tree to see that everything is where i want it to be on both disks/partitions?

crimson wigeon
#

btrfs subvolume list <mountpoint> to list subvolumes, just mount to see where all your current mounts are and their options

plush summit
#

@proud nacelle subvol=home did not work

#

it threw an error

#

@crimson wigeon that worked

#

thankyou

#

i want to see if it ACTUALLY worked though

crimson wigeon
#

lsblk might not have all the details but its output shows rather clearly if different devices are being used... To see if it actually worked I dunno, yank the home disk out and see if everything breaks?

plush summit
#

XD

#

thats one way to do it i guess

#

or i could check to see if any data is actualy being put on the home disk

#

if ther e is not data

#

then ima have a bad day

#

my next problem is not being able to chroot into the new install

crimson wigeon
#

So what's making you unable to chroot?

plush summit
#

i dont know

#

i install all of these packages with pacstrap to /mnt

#
pacstrap /mnt base base-devel linux linux-firmware nano networkmanager grub efibootmgr bash-completion xorg-server xorg-apps xorg-xinit xterm xf86-video-amdgpu mesa vulkan-radeon libva-mesa-driver lib32-libva-mesa-driver mesa-vdpau lib32-mesa-vdpau lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings plasma-meta kde-applications-meta atom audacity barrier barrier-headless bashtop blender chromium codeblocks darktable desmume discord dolphin-emu firefox firejail fish filelight gimp git jre8-openjdk jre8-openjdk-headless mupen64plus nmap notepadqq obs-studio ppsspp python screenfetch shotcut steam syncthing tor wine whois wireshark-qt 
#

do i need to spesify the btrfs subdir?

crimson wigeon
#

Only where you got your root mounted

#

So that looks correct

plush summit
#

so /mnt should work

#

it didnt work last time

#

i hope it works now

crimson wigeon
#

You do have it mounted there when pacstrapping, right?

plush summit
#

yes

crimson wigeon
#

Note that for testing you might want to only install the base system so it doesn't take so long

plush summit
#

fair

vagrant marsh
#

@ashen spindle

ashen spindle
#

turbo fan, turbo noise

zenith sonnet
#

LOL

#

Well, it works for SFF builds, I guess

#

Or something that can't take the heat

#

If it's a reference board, it might be an option with a cheaper fan for water cooling

plush summit
#

interesting

#

you cannot install bedrock linux with btrfs file system and subvolumes

#

i have to choose between btrfs or bedrock linux

vagrant marsh
#

Choose windows

crimson wigeon
#

I don't see why

#

"Until this is resolved, it is strongly recommended not to use Bedrock, GRUB, and BTRFS/ZFS. Any two of the three is fine; consider another bootloader or filesystem." Just don't use GRUB!

vagrant marsh
#

Windows is windows.

plush summit
#

exept when it doesnt

#

im done with windoge

#

what other bootloaders ahve the functionality of grub

crimson wigeon
#

Sadly I don't know of any that are as feature packed, but whatever I use rEFInd

plush summit
#

i would like features

#

looks like im going to choose between btrfs with subvolumes an the snapshots...and no bedrock linux

or i am going to use ext4 with bedrock linux

#

i dont want ot give up grub because of the features

crimson wigeon
#

What features specifically?

plush summit
#

it can boot almost anything

#

i dont want to need to install another bootloader if an media i want to boot from cannot be recognized by the bootloader

zenith sonnet
#

Wonder how much supply of GPUs Nvidia even gets from Samsung

#

Low supply isn't due to a few scalpers alone

crimson wigeon
#

Ah I see, in my experience rEFInd is pretty good at picking up everything bootable, but sometimes it doesn't autodetect and then I might have to go old school EFI shell

plush summit
#

yeah

#

i want to avoid that

#

as i would need to learn the efi shell

#

and i dont want to do that

zenith sonnet
#

More rumours again

#

Zen 3 being 5nm

vagrant marsh
#

thats not a rumor tho

#

i think their roadmap confirmed this

#

i think a turbo fan simply fans extra quick

ashen spindle
#

oh I guess for waterblocks that dont use FE design or Stacking it in a case with another card might be a valid option

#

still a minority usecase lul

vagrant marsh
#

ur a minority

ashen spindle
vagrant marsh
#

lol

#

assholes selling cards when they got em

#

another guy accepts bids

cursive summit
#

Someone made a bot on eBay to make the bids insanely high

vagrant marsh
#

i just bidded 1 million

#

XD

cursive summit
#

And it's fun

#

So botters get outbotted

#

God I love humanity

vagrant marsh
#

omg

#

im in a bidding war

#

XD

cursive summit
#

Aight imma join

#

Drop link

vagrant marsh
#

if you dutch, sure

#

still, its unreal how quick everything sold out

zenith sonnet
#

There wasn't much to begin with

cursive summit
#

Jesus christ what the fuck are these prices

ashen spindle
#

lots of people at home, waiting since announcement, 20 series was not great

zenith sonnet
#

Nvidia didn't even try and stop bots and distribute the cards evenly

cursive summit
ashen spindle
#

newegg said they had more traffic that on black friday

cursive summit
#

Like

zenith sonnet
#

95% of which was bots?

cursive summit
#

Locally I can buy this

#

For cheaper

#

We have an amazing used market infrastructure in our country

#

But boy 200 euros for 1050 is a ripoff of massive proportions

zenith sonnet
#

Tbh, I don't know if Germany has that

cursive summit
#

Most of Europe has black friday

#

Not to the point of America

#

But some sort of sales do happen

zenith sonnet
#

I meant used market

cursive summit
#

Ah

#

I mean

zenith sonnet
#

Black Friday has just started becoming interesting in the last 2-3 years here

#

But the sales are still minor

cursive summit
#

Yeah nothing impressive

zenith sonnet
#

Mostly in the range of what they are usually

cursive summit
#

Alright a little bit of a life hack

zenith sonnet
#

When a store has a sale

cursive summit
#

Black friday has stopped being black friday a while ago

#

It's more or less an end of the year fundraiser for shops now

#

Rather than discounts

zenith sonnet
#

Yeah

cursive summit
#

So what people are doing is buying shit 1 month beforehand

zenith sonnet
#

Just coincided with my last build

ashen spindle
#

in america still one of the biggest traffic days for websites

zenith sonnet
#

But I saved like 50€

cursive summit
#

Most shops are clearing inventory 1 month before Black Friday

#

You are getting a rather decent discount then

zenith sonnet
#

I would not wait for Black Friday to start a build

cursive summit
#

So November 27th is Black Friday

#

Look for parts at around October 20th

#

This year might be great for parts

#

New cards launch, new CPUs launch

#

People might sell their PCs for consoles

#

Corona, people need money

#

The prices will go down quite a lot I predict

zenith sonnet
#

I got quite a bit of hardware to sell thonk

#

But if anything, I'd buy Zen 3 and maybe RDNA2 if it turns out better than Ampere

ashen spindle
#

that's why its so surprising the demand was even higher

urban lynx
#

i still dont get the concept of "black friday"

vagrant marsh
#

shopping

urban lynx
#

yeah no, i didnt mean that

#

more like what is so special about it?
why does it need to be something special?

reef patrol
#

It's just a retail excuse to get rid of old stock.

vagrant marsh
#

yup

reef patrol
#

And get people to get their cards out, since they're there anyway.

vagrant marsh
#

in the netherlands its heavily regulated by law, but i guess in america its very much happening. prices inflated before black friday, then htey give a discount on the products, losing only 5% while the discount says 20%

reef tundra
#

price gouging bad

reef patrol
#

Yeah we've also got strict laws on discounts here in Denmark. As a direct result of retailers trying to scam people hard.

#

Offer has to be limited time, product cannot have been price adjusted in 6? weeks prior (To avoid setting the price higher to make the discount seem bigger) and other things.

reef tundra
#

human psychology is easy to manupulate

chrome estuary
#

Sucks to be you locke

#

I get a 4 day weekend for thanksgiving

#

Christmas Eve and Christmas Day as well

vagrant marsh
#

cash cow?

chrome estuary
#

it only took many years for my company to do the latter

vagrant marsh
#

japanese spending their money on the japanese market? thats stagnent for the past 20 years?

#

its not about being atheist or not.

#

you get days off

reef tundra
#

double the rate.. and you get a free payed day off

vagrant marsh
#

yea, but not every company allows that

reef tundra
#

prettymuch 300% the rate

#

then the law...

vagrant marsh
#

its a day off. im not gonna work on a free day off

reef tundra
#

Better, makes the pay more

vagrant marsh
#

you are mad

reef tundra
#

it it all is set in law, ahhh. The greatness of Unions

urban lynx
#

i'm actually not sure germany has even one 4 day weekend

vagrant marsh
#

maybe when first and second chistmass falls on thursday/friday

urban lynx
#

or monday tuesday respectively

#

i think it actually does this year i think

#

ah no. it falls on a friday and saturday

vagrant marsh
#

damnit

urban lynx
#

but since my company also gives me the 24th off it's one for me anyway

plush summit
#

finally finished the script(s)

#

@proud nacelle what do you think

#

download part 1 with curl when you boot into the iso

#

then when you get dumped into chroot run the second part

reef tundra
#

echo "downloadint part 2 to /mnt/"

crimson wigeon
#

If you're feeling lucky you can add the shebang to the part2 script and exec it directly in the chroot, perhaps something like arch-chroot /mnt /install_part_2.sh may or may not work

plush summit
#

i could have used a case there, yeah

plush summit
#

i could have used case in most places of the if statemenst

proud nacelle
#

r00d i'm not sure then

#

because it worked on my end

#

Created one partition on two drives, one of them was just a regular btrfs with no subvolumes, another with a subvolume.

#

So honestly I'm left wondering if I don't get the question or if something is broken.

#

@plush summit

#

Also I found a 16GB microsd card for $4 CAD. No way of knowing if it's legit though, gotta test it later.

plush summit
#

XD

#

probably not

proud nacelle
#

Well I looked it up

#

It seems legit

#

But it probably won't last long.

plush summit
#

/mnt/home worked for me

#

though i cant install bedrock linux

#

so i added it as an option in my script

proud nacelle
#

:thonk

plush summit
#

can either format with ext4 or btrfs

proud nacelle
plush summit
#

oh

#

i want to check for an efi partition, see if it is less than 1G and if it is extend it to make it larger and move any other partitions ahead of it

#

any way to do this in the script

proud nacelle
#

I mean the EFI partition is generally the first one

#

So check for /dev/sdX1

#

Or you could search it by filesystem type.

#

As for extending, more than likely there is a commandline way of doing it.

#

Actually

#

I remember now

#

It's literally parted.

#

gparted is just a gui for parted.

#

So anything gparted does parted can do in cli.

plush summit
#

windows is trash

#

so its not going to be the first one

proud nacelle
#

amen

#

Well

#

Windows and Linux still use the same efi partition

#

AFAIK.

plush summit
#

on one of my machines EFI is the third partition

#

for some reason

#

yes, they both use the same

proud nacelle
#

Well

plush summit
#

which is why i want to extend the one i have

proud nacelle
#

Another way of doing it is

plush summit
#

instead of make a new one

#

just dont use windows?

proud nacelle
#

Mount the filesystem at a temporary directory

#

And then look for a specific keyword or item.

#

For example, look for a folder named EFI or something.

#

And then unmount and continue if it ain't.

#

Otherwise go do the other thing.

plush summit
#

wait

#

what?

#

i dont understand

#

the partition is labled as EFI

proud nacelle
#

Ok well just go from there then

plush summit
#

the efi partition is always labled as EFI

proud nacelle
#

Just look for a partition with a label with EFI

plush summit
#

but i dont know the best way to fetch and use that informatiom

proud nacelle
#

Chief

#

The internet exists

plush summit
#

fdisk -l returns the partition data

proud nacelle
#

I ain't a god at linux.

plush summit
#

but i dont know how to use it in a script properly

proud nacelle
#

And most of those partition programs offer a "script" mode.

#

Here's a simple way of doing it

#

Hold up

#

Making a proof of concept

#

blkid -o export | grep -B 1 EFI | grep DEVNAME | rev | head -c 8 | rev

#

This should give you the partition which EFI resides at.

#

Actually no I fucked up

#

Hold up

#

No I didn't fuck up

#

What

#

Anyway try that script

#

You might need to change the EFI thing to the actual EFI label name.

plush summit
#

you ok?

proud nacelle
#

No mate

#

I'm fucking exhausted

#

Just try it

plush summit
#

do you need a hug?

proud nacelle
#

Just try it

#

I just want to know if it's working or not

plush summit
#

let me start arch

proud nacelle
#

I'm assuming you at least know how to pipe it into a var

plush summit
#

yaeh i know about pipe

proud nacelle
#

Alright good

#

That script is hack though. There's an easier way, pretty sure about it

#

But hey if it works...

plush summit
#

i just want to check with something

#

see if efi exists

#

and if it does

#

check the size

#

if its below a certain size, i want to resize and move any obstructing partitions

proud nacelle
#

Finding out if UEFI is on is possible via /sys, for checking it, you need to find the EFI label which that script provides.

#

As for checking the size

#

Give me a moment

plush summit
#

what you posted returns nothing

#

i know for a fact i have an efi partition

proud nacelle
#

ugh

#

what is the label

plush summit
#

EFI

proud nacelle
#

what the fuck gives

plush summit
#

EFI system

proud nacelle
#

Type blkid

#

Give me the LABEL=

plush summit
#

it says im using a dox disk

#

which is wrong

#

this is gpt

#

ARCH_202009

proud nacelle
#

what the fuck

#

that's not EFI label

#

You said it gave EFI label

plush summit
#

it does have an efi lable

#

even fdisk shows its an efi partition

proud nacelle
#

holy shit

#

that's not a label

plush summit
#

oh

proud nacelle
#

fuck sake

plush summit
#

i set a lable myself

proud nacelle
#

give me a moment

#

no

#

no

#

i'm gonna remake script

#

ffs

plush summit
#

please done explode ;-;

proud nacelle
#

side note

#

fdisk thinks my legacy partition is an efi one

#

doesn't matter, still gonna keep making script

plush summit
#

wtf

proud nacelle
#

ok right

#

i'm just gonna assume you have less than 10 partitions

#

is that correct?

plush summit
#

i have 40

#

kappa

proud nacelle
#

fuck sake

plush summit
#

yes i have less than 10

#

though i would like to account for any number of partitions

proud nacelle
#

well

#

i guess there's a way

#

just gonna have to do more stuff to get there though

plush summit
#

what are you doing and why

proud nacelle
#

trying to make a script

#

and because why the fuck not

#

got one part done, doing the second

#

why is fdisk being a child

#

what size are you looking for

#

1gb?

plush summit
#

yeah

proud nacelle
#

k

#

give me some more time then

plush summit
#

if it doesnt exist then i want to resize to 1GB

#

its just over half as large as you normaly wayt the efi partition

#

the reccomendes size is 512 mb

proud nacelle
#

right

#

just promise me this isn't gonna be used to try and make a >1tb partition

#

and this script should work when i'm done

plush summit
#

we will see

#

the whole point is to be flexable

proud nacelle
#

well

#

it ain't gonna be flexible past gigabytes/gigibytes

#

and i cba to make it flexible past that

plush summit
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why not?

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whats the problem?

proud nacelle
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because i'm doing it very hackily

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just trying to get it working as a proof of concept

plush summit
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what if i want my EFI partition to be 16EiB

proud nacelle
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what the hell is wrong with you

plush summit
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XD

proud nacelle
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actually no

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wht the hell is wrong with the world

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why the fuck would a kernel be >1gb

plush summit
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XD

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so you use gentoo for this reason?