Im not gonna watch the vid to boost his watch count :p
#🔌│tech
vagrant marsh
vagrant marsh
If you live in europe, thats not allowed :) or atleast have an integrated option to turn it ooff
vagrant marsh
So its a non european problem
My poco F1 was the same. When starting up. Ad. Opening browser. Ad. First time i experienced that on a phone. "The reason its such a cheap high spec phone is cause there are ads. Ads everywhere." I watched a vid of an indian showing how to turn everything off XD worst half hour wasted of my life.
However, on this X3? No ads. Alot of pre installed ganes tho.
wheat plume
Xiaomi can basically afford to not run ads anymore
at least in the markets outside china
vagrant marsh
Yea, they really are a much bigger company than a year ago, definately. Thry even start builting tv's and screens and whatsnot
cursive summit
X3 64GB is retailing for 199$
Well apparently now it's 229$ cause "early adopter discount"
pale sigil
LCD 
cursive summit
I see no valid reason to discriminate against LCD's
OLED's don't add anything of value
cursive summit
TN monitors are nice though
pale sigil
nope
cursive summit
Muh ez 240Hz
pale sigil
they are ugly
vagrant marsh
I mean, its 1080p on a freaking 2 by 4
pale sigil
Without the perks of a TN monitor
vagrant marsh
This is like having 4k
cursive summit
I beg to differ
The whole "you can't go back" is kinda stupid anyways
You are just restraining yourself to spending more money 
vagrant marsh
Well
cursive summit
I see nothing that an OLED would add over that LCD
cursive summit
So colour accuracy
vagrant marsh
1440p vs 1080p. Now that i experienced 1440p i cant go back to 1080
cursive summit
Yeah I don't care much for that
pale sigil
i cant, whenever i go to 1080p PIXELSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
cursive summit
You lads don't know the struggle of playing on a 720p 21" monitor at 20 fps
Yes, 20 FPS
cursive summit
I grew up on that, so I don't get used to commodities
wheat plume
:')
vagrant marsh
It still works. Just need a new screen
vagrant marsh
Pence
Pound
Ur british
Your money is like the 2080ti. Its worth nothing soon
pale sigil
You lads don't know the struggle of playing on a 720p 21" monitor at 20 fps
I do though
Which is why i went all out when i could.
I used to use a 4:9 then 16:9 at low res
i didn't even have a proper gpu most of my life
soooo
also WIndows 95 
zenith sonnet
Wish I could play anything on this craptop
vagrant marsh
Get a chromebook and use geforce now
Goodbye old friend
Wanne bet its gonna wake me up again
Thats so freaking disgusting. I turned it off, but this morning it went back on because of the freaking alarms
pale sigil
the irony of that watermark
vagrant marsh
Yea, i think im gonna to turn it off. It doesnt hold the same meaning as "shot on pocophone F1"
The poco F1 was a true flagship killer but now with the X3 its normalized ya know
It has a double feeling
1 side im happy to see a good spec phone at only 249 euro. On another side. Its special feature is nfc. Like...
zenith sonnet
@vagrant marsh This thing can't even do streaming fluidly...
vagrant marsh
Hey, your choice of course. I went with poco cause i had bought that sony xperia xr premium at the time for like...
800 bucks?
And then the screen did crack
pale sigil
i didn't go for it because well the m9t was about to launch
so i waited it out
the main thing that attracted me was no front camera
vagrant marsh
I needed a new phone. The F1 was the big talk at the time. Great specs for a cheap price and i just went for it.b
I just want my pc back
3 more days
Atleast they think they know the issue. I mean, you dont order a replacement if you dont know that is whats wrong with it, right?
ashen spindle
were they more specific or did it just say "replacement" ?
vagrant marsh
I havnt asked tho, the mail said to avoid contacting as much as possible to avoid time loss, but if i hear nothing in 3 days i should call them for an update.
I didnt ask what got replaced. I guess they tell me when its done b
God, this keyboard needs getting used to
pale sigil
I dont see the point in spending loads on a phone anymore
like, at all.
We are at that point its just not needed
ashen spindle
if it has a good camera and you want only a phone and not a seperate one I can see it
vagrant marsh
Usually me neither. Im usually chatting n stuff on my pc, but with my pc gone, i need my phone.
Im...tech addicted
Lol
I understand what you mean
pale sigil
i dont mind using my phone but i dont do much on it
i mainly just use discord, music and browsing when im out.
When im home i dont use my phone at all.
vagrant marsh
At work, i use Deezers for music and during breaks i check the news and mails n stuff. Thats it.
vagrant marsh
I got deezer with my provider subscription
vagrant marsh
And im past my 2 years so i can extend the contract but i dont want to, cause im now paying 7 euro for deezer monthly, and if i extend i have to pay 9 euro each month.
pale sigil
nano is bae
wheat plume
nano is good if it has this highlighting out of the box
OFC ArcoLinux would have this enabled, they are all about pretty things and learning and convinient features
convinient is not convinient to spell.....
reef tundra
nano has high lighting see the man pages
wheat plume
the script highlighting is pretty
vagrant marsh
1 thing i find weird tho
You know some usb has blue color right? It signifies its usb 2 right?
crimson wigeon
3.2 gen whatever
crimson wigeon
That means its got them AMPS
pale sigil
Ye
misty pier
red means fast
wheat plume
:D
vagrant marsh
My F1 definately didnt had a cam this nice haha
wheat plume
The main bad thing about the F1 most people complained about was MIUI and the cameras
vagrant marsh
I think miui was fine
wheat plume
I dont mind it
vagrant marsh
Didnt had any complaints about the OS
wheat plume
its missing one thing I cant live without
the ability to skip songs using volume buttons when the screen is off
pale sigil
i love miui so much
wheat plume
I use that ALL THE TIME when driving so I dont have to touch my phone
wheat plume
I cant afford a car better than this
I already bought a window mount for my phone
it fell off cause the phone is too heavy -.-
vagrant marsh
Lol
wheat plume
I dont want to get the ones that stick to the air vent, cause I dont want to blast my phone with hot air all the time
wheat plume
I know!
vagrant marsh
I bought a new car in december '19 cause a fellah crashed into my rear and totalled mine. Its a mazda 2 from 2015.
pale sigil
my car is made out of thoughts
wheat plume
mine was 5k, had 3 previous owners
and the airbag light WONT FUCKING GO AWAY even though the airbags are working fine
we know they are, we went to many garages
to try to fix that fucking light
vagrant marsh
I got 9k euro from insurance for a dacia sandero that was 8 years old and had ALOT of milage.
reef tundra
have big boobs to save on airbags
vagrant marsh
Lol
reef tundra
those fuckers are like 900 to 2000 jees
vagrant marsh
So 9k from insurance, put 5k of my own, and bought the mazda 2 for about 14k euro
reef tundra
pretty much only deploying those is a way to total the car
vagrant marsh
And lemme tell ya. That sandero was made for driving. The mazda 2? Its made for pleasure
I didnt knew cars this fine were made
reef tundra
radial engine heheh
vagrant marsh
Alright. Phone is on the charger. Im gonna hit the shower and going to bed. Tomorrow its first real test will happen on battery.
Aight im returning the phone. I hooked it up to charger and now i smell fried plastic with a hint of molotov cocktail
Wtf is that smell
wheat plume
O.o
vagrant marsh
Oh, interesting. Theres a little led above the screen indicating its charging
And...i can see it charging
Like, i can see the percentage increase
It charges fast
Mii quick charge
wheat plume
Indeed, indication lights are great
It should also flash for notifications if the screen is locked
ashen spindle
ah yes, american automobile lobby tries to stop right to repair with the argument let me double check my notes Sexual predators could use a store as a front to install cameras in your car and track you
vagrant marsh
John Deere : "farmers arnt smart enough to repair the agricultural equipment we provide"
you follow louis rossman? :P
funny guy.
reef tundra
I mean drive the perpretrator off the cliff to resolve
vagrant marsh
well, he is also trying to get hte right to repair to pull through. though his business is apple repair, he deepens himself into alot of cases that fight for right to repair. you should follow the john deere one, its just hilarious, its almost worse than apple trying to defend their case.
for a respected agricultural business, they really are toxic when it comes to repairability.
also, he has cat vids
reef tundra
clinton no
vagrant marsh
Mister clinton, what do you think about the american education system?
Miauw.
Ohh. Nvidia took over arm
Thats tech news
ashen spindle
also high hopes to literally kill every arm project that isn't nvidia :^)
nah they are quite good in killing companies in multiple areas not just pc
that at least is neither killing competition in a bad way nor is it killing jobs
reef tundra
stm more like bankrupcy chapter 13 tm
zenith sonnet
2x 8pin confirmed
This looks damn good
Although I don't like red as much as green or blue
Imagine that card in Radeon Pro blue 😯
ashen spindle
now I still dont trust them to not fuck this up
but it cant be worse than what they had before
thick elk
does not look as nice as nvidia's cards but still better than the average board partner gpu
ashen spindle
because they don't need to cool a 350W card so they also dont need to make it cost more with a 150$ cooler 
ashen spindle
yeah the nvidia cooler looks better, this is just a generic 3 fan cooler but personally I dont care at all
and it's definitely not a 150$ cooler I'd imagine
thick elk
Looks like a pretty average finstack
ashen spindle
which is about 17x above the average blower style they had so far
thick elk
Amd should have switched of those a decade ago.
zenith sonnet
We all know and we all agree
But their argument had merit, too
It does perform better in the worst cases
Meaning insufficient case ventilation
ashen spindle
yeah I don't think anyone disagrees that they should've switched forever ago, aside from amd
thick elk
it performs better for 1% of the cases and is much worse in 90% of the cae
ashen spindle
but given they marketing I'm not surprised they couldnt make a reasonable decision
at least that also is better so far for this gen
so fingers crossed
zenith sonnet
Nah, do not underestimate the number of shit cases out there
And still coming
Even in 2020
thick elk
In the past they didn't want to step on the toes of board partners but really they should have stepped up their game a long time ago.
Even if they kept using blower cards they could have optimized them better
because nvidia actually produced better blower cards for some time
zenith sonnet
But AMD needs to understand that not the average performance in your average case counts, but the performance on an open test bench
ashen spindle
yeah that's fair, imo it would've just been the easier way to make a decent cooler rather than making a decent blower style thats why I always argued for that on reference cards
thick elk
Even nvidia only moved away from blowers with their 20 series 2 years ago so it can also be a matter of standards are hard to shake.
ashen spindle
nvidia also used to be the one with better TDP ratings
like there is a vega64 liquid cooled edition but stock design is still a shit blower?
thick elk
aio's are actually really good on gpu's as long as you have space for them
ashen spindle
that was more in terms of, it's such a big heat output they made a liquid version but they still only used a blower cooler
thick elk
the added cost is a big thing but I feel now that everyone knows how to get around asetek patents these will get cheaper.
ashen spindle
I just dont see a reason to not leave AiO solutions for AiB version
unless your card is a power hog and your other options suck
thick elk
I am talking about AiB versions in response to Xeanoa
reference it's not the best in terms of compatibility
ashen spindle
multigpu has died years ago
there was definitely no reason for the shit blower on vega
thick elk
For gaming definetly even way before it died it was a bad idea most of the time
ashen spindle
for Ai/ML etc. you get instinct/quadros that use a different cooler anyway
.. great already some picture of the card in fortnite, already something to complain about
why tf do they they have usb c on it
that standard literally just died
neat oriole
Radeon 6000 bois
old marlin
@ashen spindle they could just use that as a display output tbh
include a USB-C to DP adapter
and you just have a more flexible port
can't wait when ever port is USB C and you don't know what goes where anymore 
also
who tf thought that showing the thing off in fortnite was a good idea
well yea
cursive summit
Imagine the USB-C is actually for charging the card
zenith sonnet
Two DP and one HDMI?
Guess I won't be going reference this season :(
If I upgrade at all
My VII has three DP and a HDMI (who needs those anyway?)
cursive summit
They'll be your typical AMD cards
But this time the rumour is that the cards will perform the sameas NVidia cards, but will also cost the same
reef tundra
usbc is just a 24pin(?) physical connector. it would not be too hard to repurpose the pins for carry differend protocols
reef patrol
And that's what everyone does.
vagrant marsh
Alright. 4 hours of work has officially passed. 4 hours of music listening. Battery is at 80%
reef tundra
risc architecture lyfe
ashen spindle
it still costs amd money and boardspace to have usb over a different connecter and all that for something that just died?
reef tundra
usb does not care about what connectors is used . it is just standardised the a and b to carry those signal. but copper is copper and if emf is minimal enough and conductors match up correctly.
cursive summit
4 hours of music and 20% is not bad
ashen spindle
yes the usb port doesnt care, the card cares about the usb port lol takes more space and afaik more power than hdmi/dp
reef tundra
usbc is rated for 75 watts riight?
in theory they could do a ton with that connector though
reef tundra
yes, that is why i was thing of using them to carry my can bus
ashen spindle
I just want them to make a good card before trying to make something cool in a super small niche ¯_(ツ)_/¯
reef tundra
it would even be able to carry multiple can busses and some power with that connector.
ashen spindle
you can do nvidia stuff when you have nvidia market share/ecosystem, not when you are the underdog imo
reef tundra
The latch on the DP is very nice tho
halcyon moss
what do you mean with usb-c died? you mean the VR thingy "died" ?
halcyon moss
monitors are realeasing with usb-c
mostly for laptops though..
I dont see it going away.
halcyon moss
every laptop has it
ashen spindle
you want to use a laptop as your output from a 6900xt?
seems like a not very common usecase
halcyon moss
What? no. almost every laptop outputs Displayport over usb-c altmode.
ashen spindle
ok, are we talking about the same thing?
nobody said usb-c is dead or anything like that
just virtual link/usbc on a high end desktop gpu makes not much sense
halcyon moss
we're talking about usbc being weird on a video card?
reef tundra
usb c is very nice for the features it gives while having smaller footprints.
yes
usb is not fast enough for the gpu
needs pci connections really
16 lanes preferable
halcyon moss
but its just an output of video probably. maybe over some usb for monitor hubs?
reef tundra
monitor size * color channels * color depth * fps will be the equation of the raw data size needed
actual use is more for data checking
deadness?
usb c has only usb3.1 standardised
The rest are just hacks to remake it do do other jobs
not so universeral was it
reef tundra
DP1 is better as it can clamp really good
Which is for some enough
free to use
and produce
halcyon moss
the real push for usbc for displays is laptops
reef tundra
marketing wank
ashen spindle
ok sure, usbc monitors exist, imo still no reason for AMD as the underdog to push for a new(er) connector, when nvidia just abandoned it and the biggest reason for it on desktop GPUs (vr link) got canned
shadow minnow
Imo it kinda sucks, that RDNA 2 has just 3 normal ports
ashen spindle
why
halcyon moss
display port also supports MST (but not on osx)
vagrant marsh
@cursive summit now n hour later, battery is at 77%. So 23% battery for 5 hours of music listening +15 minute break
vagrant marsh
Deezer
So something like spotify
I have to try a day of youtube music
Will undoubtly use more battery
halcyon moss
so tahts one thing deezer is decent at? :p
I switched to it from youtube (mainly because youtube music and youtube have to use the same "brand?" account, no-go).
The website leaks memory, gapless does not work on chromecast, queue management does not work when on chromecast.. sigh..
I like the UI though. it clean and simple.
It also remembers what you were listening to previously adfter a browser restart, GPM did not do that
thick elk
The main problem with the connector is it adds to board complexity and costs because of that. I at leat hope that it isn't required and board partners can decide for themselves if they want it.
At that point it would just be something extra designed for the reference cards which does sort of make sense.
vagrant marsh
I got unlimited music. With certain music apps or radio apps i got unlimited data
ocean crypt
how to setting up klaviature to riding games? help pls
cursive summit
klaviature? 😄
You must be from Asia
We call it keyboards
But in my country, which is close to Asia, it is called "Klaviatūra"
@ocean crypt
So yeah, download wootility
You will need to set up the analogue profile
ocean crypt
im from latvia OwO
cursive summit
Oo nice
Braliukas latvis
But yeah regardless, download wootility, and go to analog keyboard
ocean crypt
i hawe it already
wheat plume
im from latvia OwO
@ocean crypt we know.
Your photo of the box has your address on it
You shoudld delete that if you already haven't
cursive summit
You should open the game you want to play, and go to the settings
ocean crypt
already
cursive summit
Ffs let me talk to the guy
spiral belfry
slides in a link to the wootabase: http://profiles.wooting.io/ 😉
already
@ocean crypt What game you trying to map?
ocean crypt
F1 2018
cursive summit
Boy that name of his is pure.. emotions 
spiral belfry
oh fuck me
yeah.... f1, is a very.... interesting game to map
it can be done, though it is very hard to be accurate with it
ocean crypt
ETS2?
spiral belfry
that is easier
ocean crypt
how
ocean crypt
ok thx
ocean crypt
thx
ashen spindle
It won’t ever be official imo
spiral belfry
It still unofficially official 😛 I still actively maintain it
wheat plume
:p ok
spiral belfry
but yeah, Quintosh is right, I doubt it will ever go official for a while
wheat plume
Oh btw
Can you delete my profile on there?
Someone else made a better version and mine is no more good
The "kind of trans" one
spiral belfry
just send me the profile
wheat plume
Idk sex
spiral belfry
send in DM
reef tundra
It is official as in the founders dont object. But it is not from Wooting themselves
spiral belfry
^ exactly why its unofficial official 😂
wheat plume
Yup xd
spiral belfry
Still 1000x better than the older one we had XD
I liked his idea he had, just wasnt as maintained as it should have been
reef tundra
Whatever works. Less work for them to handle
More time to make more epic product and code...
wheat plume
I'm still curious how the codes work when you copy then into wootility
How it applies them to the board
spiral belfry
honestly, magic XD I can show it later on if you wanna see
reef tundra
reef tundra
🤢
spiral belfry
The one love
ivory geyser
The day PHP dies, I will celebrate.
reef tundra
my elitism cant handle need more arch arch arch arch
spiral belfry
The day PHP dies, I will celebrate.
@ivory geyser Have you not seen the specs for PHP8, like damn
its sexy
ivory geyser
What is so fancy about it?
spiral belfry
This will help @ivory geyser https://stitcher.io/blog/new-in-php-8
also php is a nightmare to manage
@reef tundra only if you are bad at coding XD
vagrant marsh
@cursive summit end of the work day now. Only 67% battery.
reef tundra
and trust that the rest care enough
vagrant marsh
Yes
Listened music through deezer all the time. Sometimes check a message. Checking news during breaks
reef tundra
usually forcing them to make seperate files for php and only function calls in html works best
ivory geyser
I swear to god, they are making PHP work more and more like TypeScript
reef tundra
javascript in backend
wheat plume
It is all in the sexy language that everyone loves
@spiral belfry oh no........ Its eviiilll
ivory geyser
NodeJS!
reef tundra
performance is too hard to understand
ivory geyser
Node is actually quicker than PHP in a lot of cases.
reef tundra
Biggest gripe with js is the constant redefination of shit
spiral belfry
I swear to god, they are making PHP work more and more like TypeScript
@ivory geyser And thats a problem?
ivory geyser
Biggest gripe with js is the constant redefination of shit
The what?
wheat plume
I have a meme for that
ivory geyser
And thats a problem?
Nah ,not really, that might make it more useable actually
reef tundra
wheat plume
spiral belfry
I am keeping that XD
wheat plume
LOL
ivory geyser
Wtf xD
thick elk
My main issue with php is when people write it and you have to upgrade the servers a few years down the line, it's a real annoyance.
ivory geyser
@wheat plume begone fiend!
reef tundra
lol just keep it in php 3.something cus it works
wheat plume
:p
thick elk
Of course if you take that into account beforehand / actually maintain the application sure but otherwise it's a pain
ivory geyser
slaps @wheat plume with an Electron app written in TS
wheat plume
Ooooof
spiral belfry
lol just keep it in php 3.something cus it works
@reef tundra Any PHP below 7, I can agree is dogshit
ivory geyser
I will admit that PHP 7 was a major improvement.
Same as JS underneath ES6 was dogshit.
reef tundra
try to confince the client and his "expert"
thick elk
I would not put the bar at es6, a bit earlier but yea
it still is a not a great language though
spiral belfry
I do want to know, why people actually dislike PHP though
reef tundra
C is great and assembly can stay where it is and stop having >1000 instructions
ivory geyser
I mostly dislike the magic-strings I often see in CMSs and frameworks that use PHP - also 50 extends from Classes I have never even heard of.
thick elk
For me it's simple I have not used php, I just had to interact with servers that were running crap build in php5 and go around doing system updates.
reef tundra
javascript is a mistake
ivory geyser
You are a mistake
spiral belfry
I mostly dislike the magic-strings I often see in CMSs and frameworks that use PHP - also 50 extends from Classes I have never even heard of.
@ivory geyser Thats why I build my own functions and classes, to remove the bloat from the libraries that everyone use (also why I completely hate wordpress)
reef tundra
Atleast i dont undeprecate and deprecate yearly
thick elk
Deprications are bad, often the least bad option but still backwards compatibility is great to have.
ivory geyser
Oh ye WP - every time you code in WP you have 5000 functions overhead from all the plugins, themes and core.
Fun times
reef tundra
yea try telling javascript that
then realising people mad so jk not deprecated
just to repeat it again
ivory geyser
@reef tundra what are you even talking about.
reef tundra
Dont remember exactly what it was. but it was some function with one stackoverflow with the yearly update that it changed again and it works again
spiral belfry
Oh ye WP - every time you code in WP you have 5000 functions overhead from all the plugins, themes and core.
@ivory geyser and to even get a function to run, you have to write a damn function call to fucking run the damn fuck
reef tundra
But not as bad as frameworks
with some geniusses making their own syntax
documentation is just enough to get the example working
wheat plume
@ivory geyser and to even get a function to run, you have to write a damn function call to fucking run the damn fuck
@spiral belfry isn't that not evey language?
ivory geyser
Errr no
wheat plume
O.o
reef tundra
or defining the structure or class and description being pointer
ocean crypt
Hi, how to setting up wooting two for rainbow 6, anyone playing it?!
ivory geyser
someFunction(){
// do stuff
}
add_action('mystery_hook_name_345', 'someFunction', 3, 10);
@wheat plume
Can you any sense of this?
That is how WP does it
spiral belfry
Hi, how to setting up wooting two for rainbow 6, anyone playing it?!
@ocean crypt There isnt a profile on wootabase, so I cant really help there
@ivory geyser You forgot then if you want to call it to the page, you need to do mystery_hook_name_345();
ivory geyser
No you dont, they trigger automatically
spiral belfry
nope
ivory geyser
Yes
wheat plume
How do you pass variables to the function without the () on the call?
ocean crypt
@ocean crypt There isnt a profile on wootabase, so I cant really help there
@spiral belfry noice
ivory geyser
Basically WP have many "hooks" it goes through as it loads the page - you can determine what functions you to want to queue inside the hooks and as the page loads, all the functions get triggered in sequence as you triggered it.
ocean crypt
analog input doesn't work with R6S anyway
@digital cliff work, i watched that
reef tundra
That is more a initiation call
spiral belfry
@ivory geyser We can just both admit, how wordpress does it, just is wrong XD
reef tundra
Lazy loading is the new hot thing
ivory geyser
The way WP does it is completely fucked, yes xD
The way Vue does it tho.... so sexy 👌
Very elegent hooks and lifecycle.
reef tundra
Wordpress is for when you are hammerd and need a website in an hour
spiral belfry
Wordpress 100% must be the reason for most of the hate to PHP
I work with PHP daily, and I fucking hate wordpress XD
ivory geyser
Also shit like Prestashop.
That is WP 2.0.
With shitty template system on top of it
WP at least has a documentation.
Even if questionable
ivory geyser
Well those people can also use shit like WIX.
spiral belfry
I need to get back to work, so afk for abit
vagrant marsh
That disability thing. Ts for teamspeak?
spiral belfry
@ivory geyser Can we make a motion, where we seperate the hate of PHP and wordpress? 😂 Because I love PHP, I hate wordpress XD
ivory geyser
I will honest, I dont even hate WP as in WP itself, I mostly hate the shitty themes people write on it.
You can make a decent theme on WP that isnt a complete clusterfuck
reef tundra
rename wordpress to failed attempt at braindamage simulator
spiral belfry
XD
ivory geyser
rename wordpress to failed attempt at braindamage simulator
Failed?...
Pretty successful in that regard if you ask me.
reef tundra
Also javascript is not javahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyee5Xm20WA
ashen spindle
well guess that will be in depth lul https://twitter.com/aschilling/status/1305846584408772609
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16085/the-apple-2020-fall-event-live-blog apple event, probably new iphone launch?
vagrant marsh
cursive summit
@ashen spindle I heard they are launching iPhone 12 or something
Meh don't care
Never bought, and never will buy an Apple product of any sorts
ashen spindle
well so far its all about the watch
vagrant marsh
the next iphone doesnt even have a charger
apple's own designed charger, with their own pricetag attached to it, is too expensive for the next iphone.
crimson wigeon
So what, I have to buy a new one when it runs out of juice?
cursive summit
Please call me when they stop pricing their flagship at or above 999, and their cheapest option is at least 299
cursive summit
I will 😄
It looks like an amazing purchase
Oh right, does Poco x3 have a detachable battery?
cursive summit
I hope you can actually replace it
vagrant marsh
i dont think any modern smartphone has that
ashen spindle
it doesnt really make sense to care about flagship pricing as long as there are tiers below it 
cursive summit
I forgot what they priced their iPhone 11 at
vagrant marsh
im now looking at the phone tho
cursive summit
I remember them touting how cheap was their entry model
vagrant marsh
i do notice that the back part looks like it can be taken off
cursive summit
It was still ridiculously priced
ashen spindle
like 450 for the SE or smth like that
ashen spindle
yes its not cheap, but how does flagship pricing matter in that regard
vagrant marsh
also, it sticks to my skin
cursive summit
It's too high
vagrant marsh
the back looks like its glass, but i think its polished plastic
vagrant marsh
my xperia phone has a glass back and its smooth as fuck. it cant even stay put on an even surface
cursive summit
My Nokia7+ has copper accents with some kind of a rocky backside
cursive summit
Ah it's simple aluminum back
But yeah it has actual copper accents
And they look sick
vagrant marsh
now i want to buy a phone that has a copper case
cursive summit
I read some 7+ reviews from fellow owners
They love the phone
I guess mine shipped broken cause I hate the damn lag
It just stops responding for minutes in some cases
Or just dies and I have to reset it
Should I just ditch Android 10 and go full custom OS?
wheat plume
Did apple ditch the charging port????
My sister telling me they did
The event was today
Yeh.... -.-
ashen spindle
the event /is/ going on right now
wheat plume
Ah
misty saffron
Did apple ditch the charging port????
what
wheat plume
Thought it was over
cursive summit
What do you mean ditch the charging port?
wheat plume
Removed it from the phone
cursive summit
Headphones????
wheat plume
Bluetooth
cursive summit
Nah fuck off Apple
wheat plume
get airpods bro -apple
@digital cliff yup ;_;
misty saffron
they have only presented watch so far lol
cursive summit
See that's the kind of shit that pisses me off about Apple
misty saffron
where are you getting this info
wheat plume
Aren't they $300?
cursive summit
Oh and while you are at it, buy our stand for 999
Yes, a stand for 999$ for your shitty mac
wheat plume
The regular is $200 the pros are $300
I think
Oh and while you are at it, buy our stand for 999
@cursive summit and the $750 wheels for your mac
cursive summit
Does anyone even care about Apple anymore? 😄
wheat plume
Sadly yes
cursive summit
The only interesting thing they did this year, was the ARM based in-house chips
That actually was quite interesting
wheat plume
Yeah
That'll be interesting for sure
cursive summit
Anything Apple to me is quite dead
wheat plume
Maybe their laptops won't throttle now
And get too hot cause they won't enable the fans cause the want quietness over proper function
True true
ashen spindle
tbf if intel wasn't stuck 6 years behind roadmap that wouldn't have happend
still apples fault for constructing it that way though
cursive summit
Would it really be an apple product if they didn't add an extra zero to the pricing
wheat plume
LEL
misty saffron
there’s no real competition to airpods pro though
wheat plume
Why not?
The xiaomi ones pair the same way as the airpods
You open the case and they show up on the phone
cursive summit
Is this even interesting?
misty saffron
firmware isn’t everything
cursive summit
cursive summit
Sorry to blow your bubble up buddy, but this destroys your apple shits
misty saffron
tell me how many manufacturers care about the damn hinge on tws earbuds
wheat plume
299 sounds kinda cheap
@ashen spindle that's the education discount
crimson wigeon
Meh, wish I could use earbuds like that without any worries
crimson wigeon
So far I've not used any earbuds that actually stay in my ears without me constantly pushing them back in
misty saffron
Sorry to blow your bubble up buddy, but this destroys your apple shits
firmware and sound isn’t everything people want from tws earbuds...
crimson wigeon
And thus I really don't like the true wireless kind because it's like pop it's lost forever if I'm out and about
misty saffron
and apple kinda mastered all of that, lol
wheat plume
True
cursive summit
By earbuds only need to have sound that matches headphones and a good battery
Melomania provides that
I'm just stuck with xiaomi airs
crimson wigeon
Ah yes, the cheese grater
crimson wigeon
I know PCs are all about compatibility, but maybe it's finally time for a new standard there, ATX is preeeeetty darn old now
13 is a bad number
or it's just such a huge generational leap!
Sounds like a good thing, means you're gonna buy a new one earlier!
cursive summit
Looks like that's all they announced
New tablets or something
New MacBook air I think?
And the new chip
What's In The Box:
PlayStation 5 Console - 2TB Glacier White
DualSense Wireless Controller - Glacier White
HDMI Cable (High Definition)
Wired Mono Headset - TBC
AC Power Cord
USB-C Cable
ashen spindle
ps5 event is tomorrow right?
ashen spindle
prob a placeholder price
cursive summit
In 25 hours
And it doesn't seem so @ashen spindle
In many places it leaked for 599$
It's 100$ more expensive that Series X
ashen spindle
what?
crimson wigeon
Member how well it went for the PS3 being more expensive than the Xbox 360
Although to be fair, at least this time it got games
ashen spindle
ps4 was also cheaper and I expect that to be the same this time
this is like an exact repeat of last gen xbox and ps4 reveal, ms showing their hands first for no reason and even showing the S lmao
crimson wigeon
At least there's none of that always online Kinect nonsense this time
ashen spindle
I'm expecting them to match the series x in price
cursive summit
ashen spindle
the digital ps5 will definitely be less than the series X
cursive summit
I would only purchase Xbox Series X
ashen spindle
cd version maybe too
cursive summit
If it supports Windows
I want it to be a multiplatform playground
Give me windows support on Xbox X Microsoft, and I will buy it
cursive summit
I read somewhere a while ago that Microsoft planned to support something akin to Steam on XSX
crimson wigeon
Ah yes, DRM, wonderful stuff
ashen spindle
if sony eats a loss on the hardware they easily outsell xbox and make bank from better games etc.
cursive summit
Alright apparently it's highly unlikely for XSX to support Windows
ashen spindle
...
cursive summit
Well I'll see if RDNA2 can be cracked to run Windows somehow
reef tundra
?
cursive summit
Jaguar wasn't similar to anything contemporary
reef tundra
Does it use x86 achitecture?
cursive summit
Those RDNA2 chips might have some tidbits of x86
cursive summit
Yeah yeah
ashen spindle
jaguar was also x86
cursive summit
Then where is my Windows on console goddamnit
cursive summit
Like I wanted like a mini ITX setup or an Intel NUC for my living room
To hook it up to a massive TV
cursive summit
Yeah if but XSX supports Windows that would be pretty insane
It'd be illogical to go for Hades Canyon which is less powerful than the XSX and costs close to 2x more
reef tundra
Put it in a pcie slot and get the driver for it
ashen spindle
.. ofc it's worse it's like 2 years old at least
reef tundra
Easier to multiplex the console and desktop
ashen spindle
wait for a van gogh or cezanne NUC if you want similar/better performance
reef tundra
Yea but windows is bloat
And doesnt windows have an embedded version? Useless as linux is much more stable and uses nothing performance to function
Hope so cus its quite often that a remote code execution bug gets found and reported
cursive summit
Early Nintendo Switches getting patched out so you can't hack it
Here I am still stuck with my patched Mariko
Early pre-Mariko switches had a Tegra chip exploit
You could do something by shorting the charging port pins, opening up the bootloader of sorts and payloading it
Allowing you to custom OS it
Obviously it was a hardware level exploit, so Nintendo released Mariko in 2019
They patched it by stopping making them
wheat plume
Its a switch with different hardware which doesn't have that exploit
cursive summit
Now it does
wheat plume
Oo
cursive summit
Marikos finally got hacked
wheat plume
Oh wow
cursive summit
Though it's insanely difficult to get it
The modchip costs like 70$
You open the whole thing up, and solder the modchip to the CPU
You fuck up the soldering, and your Switch is dead
wheat plume
Welp
wheat plume
Not ez xd
reef tundra
No workarounds or mitagations?
Jees
No system is unhackable especially when physical access is possible
cursive summit
reef tundra
Windows is a security nightmare. It has weaker permissions, default user is admin, their updater is frustrating enough to make many users cripple it
Also Microsoft barely tests them anymore inhouse, hoping that live user reports are good enough
These reports are also very barren and are only about the process alone. As full reports are 4gb in size
It pretty much is. They slashed the testing team and asked the user to test it for them while not having any docmentation and the developer fustrated as the process died due to someone else so now has to ask around for someone willing to send full report .
https://media.tenor.com/images/2f1e698736440904a75db72f6e7efc8d/tenor.gif
vagrant marsh
amd 6900xt wen
reef tundra
Amd 69000gtr wen
zenith sonnet
6990XT pls
vagrant marsh
So its the end of the day and my poco x3 is now sitting at 60%
Technically i could run it for another full day
reef tundra
Charging time of 30 min?
vagrant marsh
I dunno. It did charge fast yesterday night tho.
reef tundra
Because that would make the battery presentage irrelevant mostly
zenith sonnet
50% charges are a lot better for battery life than 90% charges
reef tundra
Between 20 and 80 is best
vagrant marsh
I charge 100% cause i simply dont care
reef tundra
The balance circuit is smart enough to protect it
vagrant marsh
phone is snart enough not to destroy itself
You know, sony had a thing with their xperia's where it would charge the phone to 80%, and then an hour before the first alarm it would charge the remaining percentage.
chrome estuary
I want an xecuter chip for the switch mini
reef tundra
Li-ion will not tolerate bullying
misty saffron
currently picking between lian li o11 dynamic and nzxt h510, which do y’all reckon would be better in general?
old marlin
quality on the lian li will be a LOT better
while the h510 has the build quality of a mid tier case
reef patrol
O11 for sure.
old marlin
like unless you want to go for a big air cooler O11 all the way
reef patrol
The H510isn't bad by any means, but the O11 is just a class of its own. So much cable space in the back, harddrive storage in a great bay and PSU hidden away in a smart way.
And of course - so much more airflow 😄
ashen spindle
I'm not gonna watch it
bc sorry but jay is not someone who really understand the tech on a deep level
crimson wigeon
tldw?
reef tundra
he soldered a capacitor with hotglue
reef patrol
Pass as well. He's such a jerk 😄
zenith sonnet
tl;dw?
shadow minnow
Yes
reef tundra
He had the soldering supplies but did not do the hot iron to pcb with solder and component on pcb
zenith sonnet
Also
waterblocks
render the whole debate moot
ashen spindle
you linked a video, just to talk about the shroud design
so everyone assumed you talked about the video content lmao
since the look has been known for a bit now
thick elk
Ah, Jayznonsense
shadow minnow
He also shown look of other card
thick elk
Just started watching the video when posting this, I'll finish the video first
So basically all he does is complain about a red accent on the card and that having the model in fortnite is here to compensate for the loss of players.
As if the 5 people creating a fortnite account for this are even going to get noticed.
ivory geyser
I will flat out boycott the card since they decided to market it through Fortnite
thick elk
The apple thing
ivory geyser
More like loss of buyers lul
ashen spindle
???? ok hes insane or smth
ivory geyser
Yes
thick elk
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AV1-Decode-For-AMD-VCN-3.0
Not entirely unexpected but still good to see rdna2 supporting av1
crimson wigeon
How about AV1 encode as well HMM HMMMMMMMM?
reef tundra
But can it blend?
reef tundra
It would be strange to not have a L3 cache nowadays
ashen spindle
you need to be a bit more specific than that if you talk about leaks during high-leak season lol
reef tundra
Just watched that JayzTwoCents video.. cringe. Just seems to be an NVidia fanboy that had a little much of that green coolaid.
reef tundra
wait, do you mean cpu cache or gpu cache? As GPU caches are being phased out and are mostly for thread synchonisation and atomic operations..
fickle ore
Im talking nvidia here so obviously GPU
ashen spindle
not anymore, since arm belongs to nvidia now :p
ashen spindle
but yes, amd seems to have something up their sleeves to make use of only ahving GDDR6 and not 6x vram
fickle ore
ye
reef tundra
GDDR6 is fast enough for the needs of a gpu and much cheaper aswell
fickle ore
Eh nothing is fast enough
ashen spindle
yeah try telling that to any of the last amd gpu gens, always bandwidth starved lol
also cheaper than what?
reef tundra
cache
ashen spindle
nobody confirmed it, but if micon worked with nvidia on it, it's not a JEDEC thing, how would they even know about it
fickle ore
128mb L3 vs gddr6x.... let's see. Idk what I need for my gaming specific tasks ;/
cursive summit
Rumour is RDNA2 uses GDDR6
ashen spindle
pretty much confirmed by exclusion of other options lol
fickle ore
on the other hand amd might have better latency for some tasks, some other games worse
ffs
how am i supposed to know
cursive summit
Be glad, cards will be cheaper cause it's not HBM3
reef tundra
speed is not neccesery when waiting for the cores to sync up and even older generations were cutting the cache out
fickle ore
-.-'
ashen spindle
yes but we are not designing gpu's here, we are trying to figure out what makes sense for rdna2
reef tundra
gddr6
old marlin
we will only know how it pans out when both cards are released
reef tundra
mostly it is join operations it has to work with. like 512 cores doing the same operation and not forgetting which core did what
or making sure that atomic operations dont get violated
Also I dont care how the card looks like, my monitor blocks it anyways
ashen spindle
yes nobody with any sense here just doesnt care about the visuals of a gpu :p
reef tundra
and you can also get it painted.
old marlin
fickle ore
Hate that glass window craze on cases
old marlin
painting won't fix the visuals of 30xx cards
fickle ore
stupid af
old marlin
reef tundra
look at the monitor lol. no point in getting high end hardware if the monitor is not your focus
reef tundra
silver?
reef tundra
silver gang
pale sigil
is today review day
ashen spindle
FE revies in 2 hours
reef tundra
pale sigil
YES
cursive summit
ashen spindle
only new part there is that we now see the vram size right?
well, looks like its not as bad as the turing cooler lol
ashen spindle
whatever comes first in your feed? idk not like it matters lol
I'll watch/read GN/HuB/Igor/Anandtech and that should cover everything
ashen spindle
I dont even sub to any channel so I have no feed :p
timid chasm
I assume most of them already have them uploaded to youtube and just private so they can publish them when the time rolls around?
crimson wigeon
and here they all come
ashen spindle
sick urchin
crimson wigeon
YEAAAH CLICKBAIT
timid chasm
why did GNs now show up on their yt home page? wtf
ashen spindle
youtube is a small indie company, gotta expect bugs sometimes
timid chasm
lul
pale sigil
Such a dissapointment
timid chasm
disappointment based on what? The absurd unrealistic numbers nvidia threw around?
ashen spindle
idk, space heater than can also render frames? it's impressive imo
pale sigil
ye, i wasn't expecting nvidia to be on point
but damn the numbers are so different
by a lot
Wait
wot
So many benchmarks are so different
ashen spindle
that sounds like it's correct?
timid chasm
haha that DNF for the 3080 on F 2019
pale sigil
but some games it can be more
ashen spindle
... that sounds normal? im confused, what is confusing you lol
pale sigil
its just so much lower than what they claimed
ashen spindle
... well yeah
pale sigil
i knew it wouldn't be exactly what they said
timid chasm
Wasn't most of their charts with dlss though?
ashen spindle
^
timid chasm
which means games they handpicked to show a specific thing
ashen spindle
4k/dllss/RTX
ashen spindle
so will be amd :p
timid chasm
my only interest was using it for 4k instead of a 1080 ti