Your average gaming pc can probably perform just as well for the price of that cpu alone.b
#🔌│tech
quaint hatch
I don’t wanna sound like one of those but I’m thinking about getting Mx browns
vagrant marsh
I got no idea how 1 switch differs from the next so knock urself out
But be warned. Always go green.
quaint hatch
Ah
I’m thinking browns reds or silent reds
Options
I got a tester and still can’t decide
Idc I’m not good with keycaps
Ok
Thank you so much
Cya
One more thing actually
How do I get member role
But the keyboard?
Buy
Oh
Thank you
Bye
You too
Cya
vagrant marsh
the only problem i got right now with geforce now is that, obviously, it cant access the local saves of my pc. however, it also doesnt seem to have access to steam cloud saves. i just tried to play endless space 2, which has cloud saving, but not even an autosave was accessable.
so im wondering. if i save using the 1 hour trial, will that save be there when i start the game up the next time.
reef tundra
and when it doesnt work. big sad.
reef tundra
or pray to the console gods for the update solving the issue
red ring of oof
lol, xbox360 had the disk destroying feature when held correctly
reef patrol
Optical drives or in the case of the original Xbox, using a harddrive as DRM. Literal timebomb.
reef tundra
Jup, the original xbox was weird with the cd's with me. One disk could only work after some time running, so played some other game while waiting for the warmup period
Really odd that was. Never really knew what caused it.
ashen spindle
review nda seems to be 3pm cest btw on the 16th for the 3080
fickle ore
Any of ya keyboard nerds know how would I keep Shift pressed in-game?
like even if I leave my kb
ashen spindle
AHK?
misty saffron
place something heavy on the key
ashen spindle
what
the review got delayed by 2 days is all
there will a shortage sure
but what else are you gonna do, not launch it?
zenith sonnet
Get the logistics right, then launch?
But then again, this is tech world, those cards lose value with every second
nova carbon
esp if amd has something compelling launching in oct, or even just something semi competitive
vagrant marsh
and who says that at launch they dont run into issues?
ashen spindle
yea it's an old tradition not done anymore because it make no sense anymore lol the cards get shipped to na/eu distribution centers from china so not like it makes any difference outside from one area not having shortage but the other just not having it at all
cursive summit
I don't think AMD's next gen stuff will be broken
There was a lot of time for them to mature the tech and drivers
If Nvidia's cards turn up broken, so will AMD's most likely
They had a similar window of R&D
Vega was a bit of a rushed product afaik
RDNA1 is not even pure RDNA more like a blend between it and GCN
I expect RDNA2 to be stable
It's not your traditional raytracing they will be doing
I heard they will support very partial RT
But just enough to not performance impact
It might even be better than Nvidia's
They do?
ashen spindle
It has RT support superior to Turing and maybe behind Ampere since rtx uses dedicated parts for it, where as amd does it inside the main CUs
sooo... where is the part that says games need to exist before?
the other parts of the ecosystem are not ready
that doesnt mean games need to be out first, that mostly means you need to have devs work on yourstuff and you work with them, not devs magically do it themselves
bc as you see nvidia only worked with like 5 games to make rtx enabled since 0 had it at launch
everything you posted so far makes it sound like Lisa had a good point and them not using dedicated die space sounds like the absolute best decision so far
no because here you can put the chicken into the existing stuff like amd does it so the egg can be produced and when you need/have more eggs in the future you let the chicken have more space for itself
zenith sonnet
More like a processing power problem
We don't have the TFLOPs yet to do all: UHD, 144Hz, RTRT
ashen spindle
yeah RTGI and similar will be the best use of it by reducing dev work on stupid light placement work
no need to change everything from polygon based to RT based rendering, would need a rework of literally everything used everwhere
5000*
vermeer will be using the 5xxx series name
they realized having like 4 different cpu gens all in one naming makes it just confusing
not according to multiple people in the last days
vagrant marsh
magic
ashen spindle
well, it might be good to wait for availibility of AiB model cards
well, assuming they wont do a zen3+ refresh or smth yea
I wanted to get a 3080 untill I saw the TDP 
vagrant marsh
im gonna wait for the first benchmarks to tell me which one is better. the 6700xt or the rtx 3080 and then i will buy that one.
ashen spindle
I'm not doubling the heat output of my pc when I just got an AC bc it gets too warm already
vagrant marsh
i got an AC because of my pc :P
when keeping a window open just aint enough no more
ashen spindle
well, I'll need my AC this week again I think, 34C lmao
god that sounds amazing
ver low tdp? lol what
that's still 50W over my 1080 lmao
uhhhh
I'm genuinely not quite sure how many % of that is troll 
but its not even double lol
yeah in rtx games maybe
vagrant marsh
adding more tensor cores did increase rtx performance, but raw performance is only a slight improvement. the real improvement is dlss, which make it seem like the graphics card are a major upgrade
vagrant marsh
quin, just say he is right. maybe he will come with reddit threads next
i cant handle that
sorry babe
but even userbenchmarks disagrees there
ashen spindle
im getting a new card, im not getting a 8k monitor where the 2x might be accurate
vagrant marsh
the increase in raw performance, in the fps inside games is hardly justifying getting the 2070 over the 1080
if you had the 1080, getting a 2070 was hardly a logical choice
which is used by only 80% of hte world
:)
i think you confuse rich western kids with billion sized china
still is
1080p is still used way more than 1440p.
no matter how much you want to deny it
ashen spindle
tvs also dont need 240hz and higher so ofc they go for resolution
vagrant marsh
no matter how much you want to deny it, 1080p is used more than 1440p is used more than 4k gaming
and they arnt gamers?
being discriminating just a tiny bit here?
you are just so ignorant...
ashen spindle
https://blurbusters.com/asus-launches-pg259qn-the-worlds-fastest-gaming-monitor-with-360-hz/ mh yes, this monitor looks a lot like 4k screen
vagrant marsh
its obvious he is trolling
he probably is an anti vax who believes the earth is flat and that god exists.
reef patrol
As long as most users use... 1080P it is in no way irrelevant 😛
Should you test in 1440 and 4K as well? Of course.
ashen spindle
gpu benchmarks already use above 1080p... you jsut dont use it for CPU benchmarks obviously
ashen spindle
the difference is, at some point you get cpu bottlenecked at that resolution, but you still need something to compare the 3090 and a 3050 with
thick elk
They split the reviews between tim and steve depending on what they are reviewing I think
ashen spindle
and you aint plaing 4k with a 3050
thick elk
You still are not rending at 4k at that point
ashen spindle
so yes, there are already 2k/4k gpu benchmarks obviously
you still need 1080p for a) comparison with lower end b) the 60% of userbase using that resolution
thick elk
5ghz is what my cpu runs at
It's just a minor overclock on intel, and really doesn't mean anything
ashen spindle
weird how it can still run everything I play at the hz of my monitor aside from like a single game
uwqhd @100 but sure
I'm not playing horizon zero dawn so it works quite well
almost like I make my purchases based on what I play and not based on the performance of whatever the most recent crysis is
doubt his island even knows what fiber is yet
crimson wigeon
but don't actually look close at the cars it looks real stupid
ashen spindle
ah yes, because in 10 years mainstream pc users make use of extremely specific math solutions
reef tundra
seems a little optimistic
They need liquid nitrogen to operate them
average consumer wont affort that
ashen spindle
given that experts still dont agree on the outcome it has on something "simple" like cryptography, I doubt it suddenly becomes affordable and better than conventional computing in that short time
reef tundra
It needs that extreme cold to operate
zenith sonnet
Eh, quantum computing may make it into mainstream PCs. As an accelerator. If we can produce them for under 1 000€. And maintain them at room temperature.
So, maybe in 50 years
reef tundra
also it doesnt break all of cryptography. Just partially
ashen spindle
oh god, do we have another case of someone believing the 7nm name has a meaning outside of marketing?
reef tundra
As it can calculate the prime numbers really quickly that have been used. (compared to conventional methods)
zenith sonnet
Eh, it's still not magic. And complicated. Don't expect too much
Quantum computing is like fusion energy.
Possible? Yes. Feasible in a large scale? Not any time soon
reef tundra
that is like saying in the 20s that the 30s will have flying cars
thick elk
Also quantum computing is fundamentally different from what we are mostly doing now.
reef tundra
and?
old tech is not bad
it does its job the best and is really cheap
Unnessecary costs
we already do
thick elk
flexible pcb's are a thing, the problem is the components you put on the pcb
ashen spindle
so just for references, you say we get below 1nm in less than 10 years, when intel themself say thy are looking at 2029 for 1.4nm and are currently on a 12 month delay on 7nm
like something doesnt quite add up
ashen spindle
tsmc is not amd
thick elk
They have the architecture, just not the manufacturing node
reef tundra
They probably have, not relyable
ashen spindle
TSMC is not amd...
reef patrol
Gonna mute this channel now. This past hour is just... so bad 😛
ashen spindle
yeah dont blame you
ok let me quote you here "Intel is slow to the party" and yet you take the intel timeline as confirmation?
reef tundra
that is a wild guess not prediction
thick elk
seems that way, at least people are not calling people who donate to wikipedia stupid here. Gees just because the founder has a smaller company that uses wikipedia tech does not mean funding wikipedia is stupid.
ashen spindle
https://fuse.wikichip.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/tsmc-density-with-7nm.png btw you might want to look up what the node naming actually means (spoiler it means nothing and has no relation to any nanometer size anymore)
reef tundra
Many semiconductor engineers are not sure if the gate can be made smaller without entire redesigns or magic materials.
ashen spindle
again, AMD is not TSMC, names are useless, and sub 1nm isnt suddenly becoming quantum computing???
reef tundra
That scale is atom scale
ashen spindle
I mean that's not an opinion??
reef tundra
That is not quantum computing??
ashen spindle
ah yes, make the marketing even worse than using fake nanometer numbers
reef tundra
qubits
that is what makes a quantum computer the computing beast in some sectors
wot
It refers to the superstated bits
It does.. but really tiny. atoms can be counted
as a logic gate it wont
infinite?
howmany bits in a meter?
That is not too relevant for them
Completely differend?
Quantum computers use the superposition of electrons to function. Where the spin is both up and down at the same time. While unstable and immensely complex it does give some nice performance if working correctly
Neurons are not the best as they have to be learned how to function and living matter dies and needs a lot of maintenance to keep active.
it has binary 1 and 0 but also both states at the same time is permitted
it is important to not observe it as that would force it to collapse into one spin
Because it claims magic
matter teleporting, entanglement, superstates
hard to believe when classical physics is all that was known
With many very intellegent people and very heavy use of mathmatics
That is classical physics.?
it already is
the sub particles are inline of quantum physics which gets created at the big smash
Large particle accelerator?
That is called chemistry
mass spectrometers get very close
Atoms can self arrange so dont bother
and DNA does this job already
pretty much proteins blueprints for the robisomes to produce
null
it already does this and is widely known
It is called chemistry and you just have to give the correct conditions and it will do its thing
because you need to make it want to arrange
not really, just people with the novel ideas and the rest
also, it makes matter and antimatter when splitting from the supercharged photon
usually instantly annialating
Stability and entropy
It wants to be as stable as possible by either giving their outer electrons away or to take from others to be like on the the noble gasses.
organic matter is carbon, oxygen, nitrogen hydrogen
Self-replicating machines that slowly defected and mutated to make more complex protein structures
because that is silicon dioxide
and they have managed to create the rna from seemingly nothing by emulating those conditions
prettymuch the beginning of life. Then it needed to begin selfreplicating
which doesnt seem to have an answer
probably just immense luck
With 400 trillion planets in the milkyway alone it would not be that much of a step to have the immense odds beaten
it is.. inperfect mess of proteins and messenger rna
It makes a lot of mistakes when copying dna
many get corrected but not all
and virusses can hyjack everything
Even kill switches are needed to prevent it from killing itself. The immune system is constantly looking for defective cells
Once the basis of self-replication and some protein blueprints to create more of itself and slight mutations, the biggest steps are taken
They are just there to hyjack cells and use it for all its resources
yes, that is why it can be used to repair defective genes instead
or kill specific cells or bacteria
bacteria can already share genes
more of a gene gift
That is why anti-biotics resistance can be really bad news
Even in the time of charles darvin it was not novel idea that evolution is a thing. Just not how and why
he himself was a christian and on a mission for the curch
Because he was one of the first to decribe in more detail this and became popular
Basic idea of everything being related somehow was there just not how
evolution is still happening all around us and even in humans
humans them selves made evolution move towards what it liked
now we can splice how we want it to be and it works quite well
and it even uses the cells own processes to function
You could, or it would just fail and die
we changed dna for a long time with the selection
and plants?
fungi?
There are many plants and fungi that seem to possess some form of sentience
They can feel pain and react with a warning chemical for the rest
Why that specific distinqtion?
it feels pain and warns others of this. some ants even react to this and help the plant
weaver ants are known to react to the trees pain responses
You cant just assert it feeling no pain just because it doesnt have the specific hardware that is concidered to be pain. If some damage occoures and it responds to this in anyway it is a pain response. Just like pain being there to alert you for any damage happening
calm sparrow
I just got some sr850's i ordered yesterday and I don't regret a damn thing
reef tundra
That is a deflection by a logical fallacy. Non sequitur more specifc
not really. As it questions the fundamental idea of pain
Also plants do remember
The moving plants like the venus flytrap has some memory of past events
If it false triggered it becomes less sensitive with next encounters
because that is what it needs? Pain is send chemically if needed
immune system works similairly
They share a lot of overlap
DNA of a plant is not too dissimiair of an animal
has the same principal
that is just an ad hominum
also known as the I hope this works as counter argument is gone
False, that is not the argument
in what way?
Science would dictate that you cannot determine the better as evolution is about change not bettering
It just changes, could be bad or could be good
Also seems that some strawman is being build here
Just because it feels pain does not make it as valueable to a human
So if someone becomes depressed it loses sentience?
or feels no emotions?
What would a braindead person be?
So the emotional complexion nor pain nor will to life determines the hierarchy?
as they are still human but a plant or fungi would be more responsive to the surroundings
thus humans are special because reasons not logic
Evidence?
the papers testing that
As it is quite a acusatory and inflamatory point thus need sources to hold its validity
court hearings? numbers?
Also where is the human respect at?
He is allowed to kill the plants accoring to your logic aswell as human > plant remember?
ivory geyser
Plants do feel pain; they even communicate it to other plants around them via smells.
They also retract when subjected to pain.
reef tundra
so what? your human suporiority through some paper is greater than the plant right to life. so pour as much monsanto as you can
Citation on the bird seed point?
also many products that are natural cause cancer
ivory geyser
Example? 🤔
reef tundra
red beef is a known cardinogen
ivory geyser
Hmmm
reef tundra
heavy metals aswell
reef tundra
but it just means increased risk with the known research not conclusive proofed
ivory geyser
Wtf? Do you even know what that word means?
reef tundra
also ad hominom
ivory geyser
Simp is essentially a term for modern day white-knighting and going way overboard with it.
What does that have to do with discussion about carcinogens?
reef tundra
only tells me that you have no counter so just insulting is used
I know how search engines work
ivory geyser
@last cave you may agree with what you wish, but that is how it being used nowadays as it is primarily a word used regarding online streamers and their fans.
ivory geyser
If you wish to avoid discussion about meaning of words, then stick to the simple "simpleton" as that is obvious.
reef tundra
also language is not what you want it to be. it is the common agreed definationn
wheat plume
Wtf is the conversation
ivory geyser
I do believe that holding a company responsible of something that happened 80 years ago is unreasonable as those people who were in charge back then are far gone from the company.
You might mention it as a reminder for future generations to not do such things, but holding that company accountable for it nowadays is silly.
reef tundra
What is evil?
not really
they became a pharameutical company
shady as most with price gauging but not cyclon b
also bayer is not technically the same as back then as it broke up
study?
how much is injested
and how carcingogentic is it?
No you have to proof it as you are claiming its harm
the acuser has to proof
ironically doing the same fallacy as you acuse me of doing
How much is the dangerous amount??
you can drink cyanide without dying. Known poison
just not too much
Which is annacdotal but more than the acuser has provided
Cody from codyslab has done this
proof?!
any?!
links?!
reports?
That is not how that works
The burden of proof is on the one claiming the statement
this is you
dont try to shift burden of proof now
i wont search for your proof
correct
nice
ivory geyser
@last cave plants have been shown to react to damage inflicted on them by emitting smell signals, retracting and closing off if they can.
While this might not be the same "pain" we tend to feel, there certainly is some physical response to damage on their end.
reef tundra
It is functionally identical to pain
does that matter?
by your own logic?
Also an acre is enough to life off
fully
citations?
ivory geyser
Cancer also works differently in plants than in humans. It is much less deadly for them than for us.
ivory geyser
If you sometimes saw those weird "growths" on trees, that is tree-cancer.
reef tundra
oh wow how impressive
ivory geyser
It can take hundreds of years before it even does anything to the plant.
reef tundra
yes, it curls up as it cant move
ivory geyser
Well, I have nothing to say about acres or land-farming so I will be out I suppose.
reef tundra
could proof usefull
does that matter?
and by galactic standards you are very smart stardust
kuch kuch, ad hominem
very intelectional way to counter
Now your proof of why iy is bad as experience is a source of proof which was yours to answer to begin with
And? if used correctly it saves more than it kills
Vinegar would also kill plants but is natural
still a poison and toxic
but he has not proved it being inherently more dangerous
But it was infertile due to the scare chemical?
Why? have never proved it was dangerous
seems to be a fine chemical if used correctly
well why not apply as police or something?
Also what is that sentance?
Then do it
get those acres and fill it with vinegar instead or something
That makes no sense
The rest are just people with land and coincidentally some food to last the entire winter and summer
Do you know how much it is and howmany plants it fits
Toxic
also answer the question
not his first time asking you that
inefficient
either fulltime farming or farming tools are needed
with machines
it is when weeds are making the lands barren
but human > animal according to your logic was it?
so plants are fine?
great
spray it
go arrest him officer
watch out for the dangerous mist it kills on contact
Have you any introspection?
you have been like that for a much longer period
and cant handle a jest?
What do you know about farming?
Cant even give any sources on the toxicity of his poison
Why not plow 5 hactares while you are there
No big deal
1 acre should be sufficient for full sustain a person maybe less
Source?
If land is used effectively small plot of land will provide for a lot of food
What does it matter what is a small holding. If an acre is enough than an acre it is
Nah i believe him
Why can he be both?
Why the hostility?
Cant reason your way ?
Why do you have colour video grrrrrr
And instead of reason and argument is resorts to emotional rambling
Source?
Anything?
Even John the crackhead?
No grammer matters
And a fraud would not win in emotional arguments
So you have contradicting proof to expose the lies?
Also what are the dimensions of an hectare again? You were the master farmer.
Also regulation on the farming sector is a strangle hold on the industry as you should be awere of
Big business would disagree
Is a great way to make the competition go bankrupt
Just make regulation do the work
Article?
Or just some random point without any backing?
Fine, just tells me the legitimacy of the claim
You were claiming that... Meaning that you should have some sources to the claim
It means that not enough poison has been sprayed
Where is that public knowledge stored
Ah yes the public domain my favorite location that exiats somewhere
No study or website?
Maybe some news article?
So any source would be valid to proof or disproof the point?
And I would be given the opportunity to cherry pick the source to invalidate the claim
Interesting tactics
What is your alternative?
.50 cal rifle?
That would still open you up to me maliciously selecting the source and atributing as yours.
Also fire needs dryish weeds
Do you even read, the issue with that?
Where. By whom. When
It allows me to understand how the opinion came to be
But you never provide any
Ah yes the adult method
From kindergarten
You can also spray it and it will die
Cant handle my facts and logic smirk
And the harmfull? What defines beneficial?
With finding your sources yes
Because you never told any details on how it works
Nor even try to give the backing to back the claim up.
Why and how much?
No i want his source as he has some interesting ones
They do
They give a written record of what they did and they findout. Little better than common Sense
Some advises are plain superstition
They look at research to get good info
Which can be tried by thenselves to test effects
Yes. Because their findings are also appicble to the small farmers
What feriliser works best
Which compounds keeps the weeds away
They want to know aswell and usually want it patented
Which needs the step by step instructions and research to comfince people to buy it instead.
But you dont want that
You dont have to copy all or nothing
It is
ivory geyser
Is this STILL going? Dudes...
reef tundra
Doesnt even need toxins
ivory geyser
Blargh, we need an offtopic here.
reef tundra
Good job. You did it. Countering points is no more
ivory geyser
This is not really a tech talk.
neat oriole
Can you imagine being Apple having broken up with NVIDIA only for NVIDIA to buy ARM
ivory geyser
reef tundra
Also I would wager to guess that locke knows more about farming than you
ivory geyser
But but, arent apple the farmers? They have the fruit logo, right?!
chrome estuary
ivory geyser
Well Apple is making their own chips now as far as I know
reef tundra
That is costing them an arm and a leg
neat oriole
Imagine if Apple announced tomorrow that they’re abandoning Apple silicon and will be acquiring AMD
chrome estuary
I'd laugh
and continue laughing
then suddenly remember I own a Ryzen processor
and panic
reef tundra
xd thought he blocked me
are you commiting some cardinal sins my boy
Should god not do it as he is the great and powerfull
that is the 3th commandment
mmmm
sounds cheap enough
but remember to spray it with the non-toxic
its a full soc? nice...
How does it compare to the FPGA in raw performance?
at the price point
yea just the chips can be 100+
chrome estuary
what the fuck is a hectare?
reef tundra
100x100meter
chrome estuary
oh
reef tundra
Pretty nice, would be interresting to see an price equivelant zynq fpga perform.
to see where which would be the better option
Risc's are much more efficient
advantage of starting fresh
and knowing how the market looks like a bit
Also Von-neumann architectures are interresting to work with. as it allows itself to change its program. spooky
vagrant marsh
Damnit
The alarms on my busted mobile still go off even tho ive turned it off
It turns itself back on just to annoy me with the alarms
Why is there only a force option to restart it but not to shut it off
Which chinese designed this crap
reef tundra
The battery removal technique shuts them up in notime
vagrant marsh
If you can find a phone in modern times that allows for easy battery removal, that isnt a 1996 nokia, il take it
reef tundra
Ree, we boomers want removable batteries
Great feature tho
and the hold power button to force shutdown works sometimes
urban lynx
... my phone has such a fixed battery.
30 minutes ago my phone asked me to remove the battery due to overheating...
reef tundra
lol, I had water in the usbc port while it was try as it could be
had to softwarematically force it to charge
it was weird defect
solved itself in like 4 weeks
urban lynx
i mean my phone was really warm when trying to touch it
reef tundra
other than waking up with overheating phone cus lol occasionally it seems working
missed some alarms because of that
urban lynx
it was 5 in the morning, sun hadnt risen yet 
i mean i know the reduced performance on hot days
and also that my camera stops working after like hslf an hour in 38C
but "overheating battery, pleas remove battery" was a new one to me
old marlin
reef tundra
Tsa is less competent than my spaghettification
crimson wigeon
How does that even happen
reef patrol
A mixture of bribes from Apple to seize anything remotely similar to Apple products (I wish I was kidding), and good old fashionable incompetence.
calm sparrow
Guys, right to repair when?
foggy solstice
The second you take one step outside the US is when.
crimson wigeon
Never why are you even thinking about that just keep buying new things
reef patrol
Except Mexico, Dev. 😉
foggy solstice
Would they stop you there?
reef patrol
Uh.... Mexico literally made it a prisonable offense to repair tech.
foggy solstice
Damn, that's rough.
Well, as long as you keep going North then, you should be fine.
pale sigil
He banned
fair gull
?
wheat plume
"mozilla need to abandon html5 and javascript so that they can focus on improving the speed of their browser and add more features, that way it'll be the fastest browser with the most features"
I'll leave this stupidness here for you to examine
ashen spindle
not fully wrong, javascript's purpose seems to be to make websites load slower
wheat plume
Yeh but it is useful
As long as you don't import a shit ton of libraries and frameworks to do basic shit
ashen spindle
aka as long as you dont do what 99% of people do
wheat plume
Pretty much ;_;
reef tundra
Html is made to not break
wheat plume
We need to cancel the unnecessary use of frameworks
Not javascript itself :')
reef tundra
Cancel frontend! Cancel frontend!
reef tundra
Ui is bloat anyways. Speed up the browser by removing the spying frontdnd!
Aww we lost a great debater today. His sources were missing and his rethoric on point. What did he say now to get banned hahaha
wheat plume
wat
reef tundra
Our beligerant incoherent love letter poet writer of course from the night time adventures
halcyon moss
tsk, just render to canvas 2d
wheat plume
reef tundra
Also really nice of him to tell us how google worked
wheat plume
Good design is as little design as possible.
- some German motherfucker
crimson wigeon
Perhaps we should all go back to Gopher
wheat plume
Panic selling ....
reef patrol
"How the stock market works", except it's GPUs.
reef patrol
The panic sell if fueled by uncertainty and panic.
If nVidia has enough cards in stock, prices are too high and people have to take what they can get for their cards.
If nVidia fails to have cards for those who want, prices will stabilize and go up a bit.
reef patrol
Personally - Don't really care. Won't have money to buy anything till next year anyhow. And my 2080 does what it needs.
ashen spindle
Ye not like you get much from an upgrade there anyway
reef patrol
I mean the 3080 will definitely help me get a more stable 144FPS, but... meh.
Kind of hoping I'll get a 3070 review sample or one of AMDs cards if they are as good as they claim 😄
nVidia PR only cares about video these days. So we're reliant on AIB and those are... very finicky.
cursive summit
Why'd you get a review sample? 😄
reef patrol
Well I haven't . . . yet. Hence "hope" 😛
ashen spindle
Yea written only isn’t getting as much attention unless you’re on decent size
reef patrol
And why? Because I work at a tech site as a volunteer. 🙂
pale sigil
i can understand why people are selling their old gpus
the value keeps tanking
like my GPU lost 100 quid alone value wise recently lol
And tbh
People just wont wait for real benchmarks etc
it was deffo worse than last time this time around
ashen spindle
nah, either you needed to pay attention and sell it before the announcement, or now wait till people notice MSRP is not what you can get most of them for and thus old gens also get a bit more expensive again
pale sigil
Tbh if founders editions are better this time around I am tempted
We will wait and see
ashen spindle
if you can get one
reef patrol
Not a fan of their weird 12pin connector (or the location and orientation). Definitely grabbing a reference card if at all for a water block.
ashen spindle
there are water blocks for FE cards
ashen spindle
¯_(ツ)_/¯
reef patrol
The block is going to look weird due to the 90" penor port.
shadow minnow
Someone please tag me when nvidia 30 series reviews are out 😄
ashen spindle
no
ashen spindle
nope, shipping issues mostly to EU
ashen spindle
nothing so far points to that and multiple reviewers already confirmed its because of shipping delays etc.
pale sigil
I heard that you heard that you heard another guy heard.
ashen spindle
I mean thats more the cards being ok but not amazing, nothing with drivers
pale sigil
Drivers can tank performance
ashen spindle
yes but so far there is no indication that they have any issues
pale sigil
Oh ye right, for sure.
ashen spindle
meanwhile, tik tok seems to now belong to oracle
pale sigil
Wot
old marlin
Lol
old marlin
Can't wait for tiktok JE
ashen spindle
definitely not related to Oracle CEO being buddy buddy with trump, oracle totally just had the better offer
ashen spindle
oh and looks like it might have less screws than the 20 series cooler but is still "like hell" to take the FE cooler off of a 3080 lol
reef tundra
Electrical screwdriver is great
old marlin
Lol
reef tundra
Barbarism
cursive summit
It's called modern solutions to modern problems
Why did we invent electric grinders in the first place? To cut through shit
Cut that baby up and voila
reef tundra
To fix up welding jobs
cursive summit
That's the normie perspective
Real men cut stuff apart and superglue it back together
Those Samsung assholes forgot the 3.5mm jack for your headphones?
Drill it yourself
Take a nice electric drill and drill into top left corner
Ez fix
reef tundra
The apple way
wheat plume
Aha
Tells me when the camera and mic are being used
Every OS needs this
cursive summit
And take a nail, smash in the camera with a hammer
reef tundra
just disable the icon to spy without being detected heehhehehehehe
cursive summit
Bam
wheat plume
Xd
cursive summit
And if you want to use the camera on your phone
Just glue a Sony to the back of your android
Or better, a Nicon
Wait, wtf is the name of that camera brand
reef patrol
Nikon.
cursive summit
Ah
wheat plume
Richard Nikon
plush summit
how do i make seperate subvolumes on seperate disks with btrfs and then mount those subvolumes on different disks. im looking to have a disk with root, and a seperate disk or partition with my home folder
i want to be able to use btrfs snapshots
crimson wigeon
You mount them like any other partition, but you use the subvolid (or just subvol) mount option to specifyy which subvolume
plush summit
how do i create them on deperate disks or partitions
crimson wigeon
Make them with btrfs subvolume create
plush summit
but that will only make it on one disk, no?
crimson wigeon
You specify the path where you want the subvolume
It should do the right thing if you do something like btrfs subvol create /mnt/awesome/supersub (assuming /mnt/awesome is another btrfs filesystem)
crimson wigeon
You'll have to mount it first somewhere
plush summit
oh
so you have to mount, create the subvol, then unmount and mount the other disk and make the other subvol there
i see
so to make a root subvol
btrfs subvol create /mnt/@
crimson wigeon
Sure you can do that
plush summit
whats best practice
crimson wigeon
I don't think it has to be @ tho
I've only abused subvolumes to have a sneaky Arch installation that shares /home and /lib/modules with my main openSUSE install ¯_(ツ)_/¯
reef tundra
just good practice to give each user their own partion
plush summit
i want ot be able to use btrfs snapshots for each disk or partition
plush summit
i would need to l;earn about lvm2
actualy i have used lvm
but i dont want to use it to extend volumes and such
i just want ot be able to make the directories on different drives with brtfs subvoumes so that i can use the snapshots to restore if something goes wrong
that is all
crimson wigeon
Subvolumes are just glorified directories yeah, so if you say wanted /home on another partition or whatever in a subvolume that's not the root subvolume you would have it in your fstab a bit like PARTUUID=2d77ebe7-c412-854a-85e5-d0733354c2e1 /home btrfs rw,noatime,space_cache,compress=lzo,subvol=subhome 0 0
And yes you can mount the same partition multiple times with different subvolumes
plush summit
so give me an example of mounting another disk with a subvolume
crimson wigeon
Here's a short sequence of commands I just did where I create a subvolume on a new btrfs fs, then mount that subvolume and create a file then mount the root subvolume again, probably not very good at explaining it but oh well I can't explain this stuff
plush summit
tree doesnt exist in archlinux install
crimson wigeon
Don't mind that
plush summit
so when you make a subvol under a directory
everything is automaticamy mounted there?
crimson wigeon
Sure yeah why not
plush summit
i want to understand XD
crimson wigeon
As I said, subvolumes are really just glorified folders which is what I showed with that tree..
plush summit
so unless i specify to mount to another subvolume, all data will be placed into the only created subvolume?
crimson wigeon
By default it'll mount the root subvolume, which includes all other subvolumes, so.. yes?
plush summit
im so confused
crimson wigeon
So am I
plush summit
oof
crimson wigeon
so I don't know, play around with the commands and see what happens ¯_(ツ)_/¯
If you don't want to potentially sacrifice a whole disk or partition just to play around with this then you can do what I did and make an empty file that you then run mkfs.btrfs on, like what I did truncate --size=1G btrtest mkfs.btrfs btrtest
plush summit
im just using a vm
cursive summit
If any of you lads want to get into VR for cheap
Oculus Quest 2 is coming soon
Starts at 299$
Much better than the already existing Oculus 1 or Rift S
crimson wigeon
Sounds good except I'd rather not deal with Facebook accounts
cursive summit
I made an Oculus account so I wouldn't have to use Facebook
Then again i already have a Facebook account
cursive summit
Didn't they say you they'll remove the ability to make accounts, but playing with them will work just fine?
I don't even mind Facebook at all
ashen spindle
im just holding out for a wireless index2 or smth like that
cursive summit
Imagine the latency 
ashen spindle
wifi6 should handle that with no big issues iirc
or whatever the newest standard is, I aint remembering the stupid 802.ax whatever names that make no sense
hell, there already is a vive wireless kit that works, it's just a bit clunky and I'd like a more built-in solutino
wheat plume
is it possible for an app to disable a developer options quick toggle? specifically the "disable sensors" one?
fair gull
well
vagrant marsh
In now on my new poco X3
wheat plume
UwU Poco X3, real fancy
yeh...massive
thats a reason id not buy it
I dont want a phone thats as large as a small tablet
vagrant marsh
Its only 269 euro. My poco f1 was 330
wheat plume
LEL probably
I assume state department has a backdoor to turn them back on 🤷
@prisma crag
vagrant marsh
Its advertised as fuuuck
wheat plume
and change your DNS to adguard
I assume it has Android 10?
its pretty bad if it doesnt
vagrant marsh
Yea
wheat plume
Locke, Pixel 4A
is smol
iPhone SE
Ive not had a Moto phone before, but I love they stick to stock android but add features also without changing the look
Yeah xd
vagrant marsh
But all in all. Its responsing quickly. And the keyboard is not lagging
wheat plume
what MIUI version?
vagrant marsh
Also. And this suprised me the most. It has a protective cover pre installed on the glass, and it has a silicone back cover in the package
urban lynx
my xiamoi also came with a case and some pre applied screen thingy. and didnt cost 200€
vagrant marsh
How do i check miui version
wheat plume
Yeh! my moms phone was 155 euro and came with that too
you go to settings, about phone
its at the VERY TOP
:P
vagrant marsh
Bold?
wheat plume
heavy
vagrant marsh
What you mean with bold. Im lost in translation XD
wheat plume
It is thick AF
wheat plume
oh, nvm.... its just the compression on the screenshot
vagrant marsh
Dunno? Thats normal i think
vagrant marsh
The sad thing is tho, my poco f1 stuff didnt upload properly appearently. Though alot of stuff is linked with my gmail account, some stuff wasnt.
And i cant access that phone till i fix the screen
wheat plume
https://youtu.be/1abcyZgL-EU here is a nice video for you :D Literally uploaded today
vagrant marsh
Black shadows?
wheat plume
mostly care about security patches
pale sigil
@urban lynx mine came with a case to and its so bad
wheat plume
UwU
I like holepunch notches, if I had to have a phone with a notch, id prefer that type of notch
but I want a popup camera cause I never use the front camera and I dont need it always able to see me
reef tundra
The linux file structure is odd for those not familiar with it. As Drives are just folders in that structures and the order only matters when drive into drive.
Pretty much a mounted volume is a folder and more volumes can be added by asigning them to some folder that mount command tells it to
As windows would make seperate trees, linux merges them into one
wheat plume
I like that design
reef tundra
it works really well and allows for easy addition of partitions to your files tree
cursive summit
@vagrant marsh So how would you rate it?
And battery life?
I love big phones, doesn't bother me too much in carrying them
But the better the video clarity, the better the phone
wheat plume
He got the phone today, the battery life isnt going to be the best it can until it at least 3-4 days xd
wait, is the screen OLED?
vagrant marsh
Yes
cursive summit
120Hz is smooth
cursive summit
@wheat plume Xiaomi Mi 10 has a nice OLED
vagrant marsh
Well. In all honesty, i would rate it quite well. Using it for bout 2 hours now. Setting up was easy. Alot of bloatware but thx to european laws those were easy to uninstall.
cursive summit
I don't even care for the built-in trash, as soon as I get it, I would custom OS it
No chinese malware
cursive summit
spyware, oki
vagrant marsh
And so far it feels exactly like my poco F1. Its cheaper but i honestly can see it as an improved F1.
cursive summit
Though I just want a good phone that will last me a good several years
And that one seems to strike all the points
wheat plume
my phone going strong nearly 3 years now
I shattered it a bit but that was my fault ;-;
cursive summit
My Nokia7+ is close to death
Battery is dead
Also, the perf is horrid thanks to Nokia
I was hoping for a performance evolution with Android 10
cursive summit
In return, I got glitches, bugs, phone not starting, phone not responding
Fuck Nokia and their Android 10
vagrant marsh
Well, hardware wise, on paper the cpu is lower numberedd than the snapdragon 835 i think the poco F1 had? Which used to be one of the strongest chips. But i dont feel it in the overal use the chip is less. Probably cause its a more modern and efficient chip
cursive summit
It has a Snapdragon 732G
vagrant marsh
Its an octacore with 2 strong cores and 4 lesser
Dont go for xperia
Personal experience here
cursive summit
@vagrant marsh
vagrant marsh
I got an xperia xz premium, the software is garbage.
cursive summit
vagrant marsh
It performs better than the 835? Nice
cursive summit
732G beats 835
cursive summit
It's a new SOC
wheat plume
Yeah...it is newer
vagrant marsh
8mm
cursive summit
Built on 8nm
vagrant marsh
835 is 10mm
cursive summit
MM
wheat plume
ohhh ok
vagrant marsh
Nm
wheat plume
nice
cursive summit
If it was in MM we would still be cavemen
vagrant marsh
XD
wheat plume
:P
cursive summit
But yeah it looks like a great purchase tbh
I'll wait for local availability, see if they don't get beyond 300+
Which might happen due to taxes and import customs
wheat plume
We have 23% import fees in Ireland ;-;
cursive summit
37% on battery 
vagrant marsh
I just started using it lol. It came with 56% battery
wheat plume
my moms note 8 was at 53% out of the box
cursive summit
Wait what
wheat plume
yeah
vagrant marsh
Im using it non stop for 2 hours
wheat plume
has to updte, and install apps
vagrant marsh
Yea
wheat plume
and do background stuff
cursive summit
Jeesus christusus
wheat plume
never judge battery life for the first 3 days
vagrant marsh
I had to setup my bank account and everything
wheat plume
itll settle after 3-4 days
cursive summit
On a chinese phone?
wheat plume
EVERY phone
cursive summit
Don't give chinks your bank account
wheat plume
What phone you got?
vagrant marsh
As long as the battery doesnt explode like a note 7 its a good battery. Thats the standard nowadays
wheat plume
LOL
vagrant marsh
vagrant marsh
Lets see
If there is 1 concern i have to make, its the design of the cameras
It sticks out like a sore thumb
cursive summit
I guess they expect most people to invest for a phone cover
Cover should hide that nicely
wheat plume
Camera bumps are turning into camera mountains in late 2020
vagrant marsh
Yea, cause the included phone cover doesnt really change much. It still sticks out
Hold on, lemme see if i can capture it with the other phone
wheat plume
You say you dont want china malware but use a Nokia phone? GG
ashen spindle
isn't nokia finnish though?
cursive summit
It's American
wheat plume
it isnt :')
cursive summit
HMD Global that owns the Nokia trademark is owned by Microsoft
wheat plume
O.o
wheat plume
Locke, I feel like you lowkey have a 2019 ipod touch
cursive summit
HMD Global Oy, branded as HMD, is a Finnish mobile phone company, made up of the mobile phone business that Nokia sold to Microsoft in 2014, then bought back in 2016.
So yeah it's pure capitalism
wheat plume
thats the strangest camera bump Ive seen
cursive summit
Time to prepare the electric grinder?
wheat plume
my phone has a dual camera on the back but its on the side
so when its flat on the ground it wobbles diagonally
vagrant marsh
I definately need to find a better cover that makes sure the phone is flat when laying down
And the battery gets properly tested
cursive summit
vagrant marsh
My reserve phone, the xr premium was at 29% battery from 100 at the end of the work day. I listen to music all day. The poco F1 has a...4050mhz battery i think. It was always at around 40% at the end of the day. This X3 has a 5000mhz battery
cursive summit
This is a pretty amazing video
pale sigil
Fugly
wheat plume
ew
vagrant marsh
So what are the secrets?