I have yet to see an implementation where motion blur made it look better
#🔌│tech
sharp tusk
trackmania
crimson wigeon
Think the stock UE motion blur where even the slightest movement and you can't see anything clearly anymore
Whyyyy
ashen spindle
it obviouslt makes sense in cases like console racing game, you cant hit 30fps consistently, so you blur to make it look a bit smoother
but like, I want a clear picture on my pc, let my eyes do the blurring of movement
crimson wigeon
But I do tend to leave it on in games, so long as it's really subtle and nice and proper per object
ashen spindle
yes that has been the best one I've seen, in BL3 where you can chose camera motion blur and object motion blur
cam obv sucks, object was fine but didnt add any value to me
crimson wigeon
I have no need of such input methods so all I can repeat is the obvious thing that search the internet can give one: setting the env var QT_IM_MODULE to fcitx
but you did that so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
reef tundra
Uh oh no
Probably because it restarted the module
Enviomental variable might have been not reprocessed as it asumed that it would be notified when it may change
crimson wigeon
Nice 
reef tundra
The module itself
It read the variable at start and read the enviomental variable and used the default value instead
plush summit
im having a little trouble getting files to the arch install media. i tried to use wget but it doesnt exist there anymore.i put my file on github but when i tyr to download that one file it just gets the html of the page with curl
any suggestions?
reef tundra
But might not have realised that enviomental variables have been changed and are to be read which reboot forces it to do
You want a live iso?
crimson wigeon
Make sure you're curling the raw link
crimson wigeon
As raw as it gets 😉
plush summit
it doesnt work
reef tundra
Dd can make life media from iso. Wget can be used, but git or curl might also be used to download from the web
plush summit
it just gets the html of the page
wget doesnt exist in the arch iso
it was removed in favour of curl
straight of rawdog me uwu
crimson wigeon
I can confirm that curl on that raw URI doesn't have any HTML nonsense
plush summit
not for me
reef tundra
You probably need to give it information that it an iso file should be on that domainname. And get that name and download the iso file alone
crimson wigeon
So what does it give you then?
reef tundra
Wget gives the raw data with little if any processing
crimson wigeon
Thought so
Raw gets the file directly without any HTML around it, compare https://github.com/T3cube/archinstall/blob/master/install.sh https://raw.githubusercontent.com/T3cube/archinstall/master/install.sh
reef tundra
Raw is byte by byte and you tell it you want all the data. Not using raw would strip the unneeded information
reef tundra
Haha more tags to bloat the tags list hahah
pale sigil
Lol
reef tundra
Mm if you hide the bloat away and pretend its gone it will make it seem less bloated mmmmm
Single player is also a server, underwater
When the server lag to the server is not 0 .
When they changed that i remember it was a mess and would make the block breaking lag insane even for single player worlds
It was . On general servers if the local server(http, etc ) latency is more than 0 it is doing bad things.
Usually it does not recognise itself and goes through the router to access itself
Great way to overrun your own internet interface
proud nacelle
Windows 7 with updates on an ssd : 2 hours. On a hdd : 16 hours. The fuck.
ivory geyser
Better question is why are you still running Win 7
ivory geyser
better question is why are you running Win
Because I am lazy and dont want to fuck around with Linux
proud nacelle
Why win 7 : CBA to deal with win 10. Why am I running win : because i need to.
software which won't run on linux
simple as that
nosy little bugger, aren't ya?
mostly stuff related to coding on windows
sure i could cross compile but cba
also games still
never too late to learn
you do you then
yeah but I mean you don't have to build something complicated. even a simple bash script is coding imo
anyway, you do you though
and I understand what you mean
reef tundra
That is not the pvp minecraft attitude brah. You fight and do some sicc tricks and eh lava yourself accidentally. Again
Or the tarkov lifestyle. You win and take home the loot or die. Even if they are sniping from the other side of tge world
zenith sonnet
I wonder if this gen of UE will also heavily favour Nvidia hardware
vagrant marsh
misty saffron
got an issue with 4 ram sticks running only on significantly lower clocks compared to 2 sticks (2800mhz vs 3466mhz), i just get random bsods, which i’d guess means some parts of memory get corrupted
is there anything i can do with that like bumping up the voltage a bit?
ashen spindle
is the memory on the QVL list of the board?
misty saffron
yep
ashen spindle
with 4 sticks and at 3466?
ashen spindle
and you got one 4 stick package or did you buy 2 later or smth like that
misty saffron
i bought 2 later but picked it so the chips are identical
ashen spindle
mhh there's a tiny chance that's the issue so keep that in mind, but yes adjusting timings could also work
what cpu?
ashen spindle
have you tried the dram calculator?
misty saffron
nope, let me check that out now
misty saffron
oh well, just realised the manufacturers of the dies are micron and samsung of slots 1, 2 and 3,4 respectively
yet part numbers of the sticks are the same
is that even a normal practice?
specs are entirely the same though
would suck if that’s the issue, 16gb sticks aren’t the cheapest so to speak
ashen spindle
yeah that can happen, because you bought 2 kits of 2
they sell you ram with X properties, if they run out of micron stock but samsung works fine, no need to change the markeitng/package etc.
it doesn't mean they can't work together, just adds a lot of uncertainties
misty saffron
do you reckon the d in part number (khx3466c19d4) means it's a d-die?
ashen spindle
can be but its no guarantee
misty saffron
i'll try micron settings first cause the voltage is a bit lower than samsung, don't wanna burn them lol
ashen spindle
c19 is cl19 so d4 could just be 4 die ranks or smth
misty saffron
well doesn’t wanna boot with those settings
i think i’ll just try upping the voltage for now
1.350 is recommended so let’s see
guess i’ll just run membench and look for errors
another thing: can i do something with my gpu fans running at max speed before post?
is it because the motherboard just doesn’t start talking to the gpu right away?
it’s quite loud and annoying so
ashen spindle
uhh you could see if the gpu vendor has anything to control fans on their site
it's usually something like the gpu not getting data that the chip is cold enough so it starts the fans to cool it down
or the deafult is to run 100% and the vbios says to lower it based on temperature etc.
also just googling if its a common issue with your model maybe
sharp tusk
the RAM part number doesnt tell which die it is
only way to check is the version number in the kit and thaiphoon burner
misty saffron
oh well, the issue seems to be fixed now anyways
all i had to do was to set the voltage to 1.350
ran membench for 15 minutes, no errors so
shadow minnow
Does any of you know about some display technology that is transparent (at least from one side), visible just from one side, is not OLED or Projector, and also is not pixel based in normal sense?
ashen spindle
uhh tf is not-pixel based
like you have the LG oled clear tv thing and some pc cases use LCD sidepanels like that
but both are obviously pixel based?
vagrant marsh
He wants a holographic interface
But those dont exist yet on the consumer market
I hate we got a general understanding of the tech and use that tech in movies but damn, not having them in real life yet is so freaking annoying
ashen spindle
I guess I took display tech a bit too literal then. Could try a lava lamp that you can control if it can be anything 
misty saffron
and some pc cases use LCD sidepanels like that
@ashen spindle please elaborate
ashen spindle
uhh there are pc cases with lcd sidepanels that you can also see through
shadow minnow
Let’s say that there are things (and reliable people) pointing to such a display being used in one device, that should come out 2022
ashen spindle
ok? sounds like a pointless feature for home usage
shadow minnow
It has specific usecase, and will not be actually useless
ashen spindle
for example?
misty pier
fickle ore
@ashen spindle Using DOTS, btw
ashen spindle
makes sense
fickle ore
and Burst, what the hell that is even I dont..
ashen spindle
burst compiler, one that highly optimizes your code
fickle ore
kk ^^
ashen spindle
basically it almost makes it like you are writing c/c++ from a performance point
with the downside that it limits it to stuff that cant be changed to it, like classes
so you cant just add it to a current project
you need to write code VERY differently from how you would normally do it
ashen spindle
I'm not looking forward to having to use it in the future if I'm honest lmao
ashen spindle
got im starting to hate this linux server
pale sigil
Why
ashen spindle
bc it's lagging/not running idk what its doing
we all dropped connection to TS, couldnt access my website
SSH connection super laggy etc.
ashen spindle
if it takes 30+seconds to show my input in putty I call it lag
cpu/ram/disk/network usage is low
traceroute to the server is normal
apg-get update complains about apt-transport-https not being installed
all googl results tell to me to install it via apt-get update
bc they are all braindead I guess
pale sigil
That sounds bizare
ashen spindle
it must be the connection I guess?
50% of pings time out, the others are normal
but tracert is fine????????
ashen spindle
gues its the last steps dropping pakets?
so I guess the server works but not the host?
then I still dont get what its trying to tell me with https not installed
ok how do I manually install apt-transport-https
god this is annoying
crimson wigeon
Manually download the .deb package and install it! Like apt install ./bla.deb
ashen spindle
how do I manually download it
crimson wigeon
ashen spindle
curl had no response and wget got stuck
crimson wigeon
Honestly I'm starting to think maybe there's something seriously wrong with that server, like perhaps its connection is broken somehow
ashen spindle
it must be the connection, the console from the hosts server control panel is working with no issues
those last 3 trace hops are on happysrv .de which seems to be the web hosting name for the provider or smth
I dont think the missing https package is causing my issues but I'd still like to not have it fixed
guess I should first write the server host?
crimson wigeon
Just nuke it and remake it from a backup! Windows style!
ashen spindle
but I dont own the host lmao its just a v server
if the network part infront of it is droping like 50% of the packets I cant change anything
I guess that might be why curl/wget got stuck
crimson wigeon
You can't just spin up a new virtual server?
ashen spindle
I mean maybe I could idk
I barely touch it
lol
I host TS, SVN and my website on it, I dont usually interact with the server
crimson wigeon
Also do all the logs say anything other time timed out and such?
ashen spindle
which logs
crimson wigeon
all of them especially those related to networking
ashen spindle
ts logs just show that people disconnected/dropped connection
uhhh I wouldnt even know what logs I could check for that aside from that lol
reef tundra
Ssh should not lag much as there is fuck all. Text doesnt need much
Why use putty when openssh is here
ashen spindle
well yesterday it lagged, today putty didnt even manage to establish the connection
bc I know how putty works somehow and I dont put enough time in for it to be worth to learn something else
crimson wigeon
If it's really low level dmesg might have clues but highly unlikely in a VM, else journalctl will give you a whole mess of logs (and I forgot what arg to make it scroll to the end instead of from the beginning)
ashen spindle
no journal files were found
crimson wigeon
running as root?
ashen spindle
im just waiting for a reply from support tbh
ah no I wasnt bc I reopened the console
reef tundra
Monitor port 22 to see what the server is returning with.
Might be losing a lot of packages and retrying a lot.
ashen spindle
lots of SASL login fails from russian ips
crimson wigeon
Perhaps the ruskies are DDOSing
ashen spindle
nah not that much
reef tundra
Eehhh seems to be an ddos or probe attempt
ashen spindle
oh I guess with the latest restart the jail isnt running anymore
crimson wigeon
Yeah any publicly accesible server on the internet that responds to anything gets probed constantly
reef tundra
China is pretty much probing every ip at every port all the time.
ashen spindle
nah they have ddos protection in every plan that cant really be it
crimson wigeon
Orrr some other naughty person on the same server as you is eating all resources, somehow
reef tundra
Would not surprise US and Russia and the rest of the world does the same
ashen spindle
hrmm I guess someone else on the machine could be causing it
reef tundra
Oh yea, that is a real weakness
ashen spindle
I'd assume support would look into it though with my ticket
crimson wigeon
Yeah asking support to check is probably your best bet right now
ashen spindle
like the server is basically idle, I dont think they provision it that badly that they could eat so many resources, that I cant even use 2% of what I could use
netcup isn't a tiny provider
reef tundra
Ddos protection can be bypassed by local machines
ashen spindle
meh, doubt its anything dramatic like that
pale sigil
Have to say, the replacement router I got from my ISP the WiFi reaches outside
Couldn’t before...,
Also Quin will log in later to a corny 90s hacked screen 🤣
ashen spindle
look if they take over netcup server control, they are taking over much more important stuff than I could have lmao
misty saffron
thanks for the suggestion to use dram calculator thing @ashen spindle, pc seems to run stable with the voltage it suggested
wheat plume
all the autoskips
reef tundra
Skip fluff in video becomes 20 seconds video
wheat plume
yeah lel
pale sigil
calm sparrow
I fucking did it
pale sigil
Did what
calm sparrow
I finished building, all i need to do it connect an ethernet cable, use a debloating software, and i am ready to do some gaming
reef tundra
Rip the windows install. 
vagrant marsh
I think this data is incomplete tho
Isnt there a chinese and russian OS used for mobiles?
reef tundra
what is the data about?
vagrant marsh
That movie Bout mobile OS throughout history mrpleasent linked
reef tundra
The market share?
vagrant marsh
reef tundra
ehh, it is vague what the data is about. It could be the amount sold with that OS or the estimated devices active running the OS. Neither the scope wether locally to some market or to the worldwide numbers. Also company reports is all the listed source are. Which is vague and not acedemic acceptable source as a result. Since you cannot know which companies they include, whether these reports were accurate nor official nor understood correctly by the author(and not distored or misinterpreted, as usual by the communication noise commonly does). Also hard to believe that nothing else than IOS or Android exist in the world as it would imply. This is usually the case and seen as "others" in the representation. Then is the unknown of how or even if derivitives are lumped into the others. So, would lineageOS or similiar in nature be included and if so as android? At last it is useful to display the source of the raw data what the visualisation is based on. Other than looking nice and smooth, it doesnt work as source nor informational(due to unknown source, so random numbers would work as well). 3/10 - nice graph, but bad data
misty saffron
a 650w psu most likely won't be enough for 3950x + rtx 3090 right
ashen spindle
uhh should be fine
just make sure the individual rails going to the gpu can handle enough power
350w gpu + 140w cpu so you have 500 if you fully load both which is rarely the case
I guess if you run something that asks a lot of both (not games) and also have pcie4 ssds etc.
but normal usecase? good enough if its not bad quality psu
urban lynx
if i heard correctly the gpus even have some kind of power failsafe oder so
ashen spindle
asus has at least one variant where it uses leds to show if the powerdraw doesnt work
didnt really look at AiBs otherwise yet
urban lynx
i will wait till about mid october, and see the general consensus i
is, and what reviews and benchmarks reveal
ashen spindle
always a good idea, you dont want to deal with issues like 2080ti artifacts on first batch cards :p
urban lynx
latest point i'll buy one is early november.
#CP77
sharp tusk
if you are building new system definitely go with recommended, however if you own 650w power supply to begin with i dont see why you should upgrade it
thick elk
Then again if you are spending a combined 2200 on a cpu + gpu spending an extra 10% of that at most on a psu does not seem like a big issue.
Still if you don't go for major overclocks there is no way a good 650w should be overloaded from that.
ashen spindle
I have a 550w psu and I might go for an 80/amd version of it and I'll be fine ¯_(ツ)_/¯ no point in upgrading if what you have is fine
thick elk
The thing with amd's power is also partially that their reference coolers are completely useless.
Often at launch you can only get the reference cooler as well.
ashen spindle
hopefully not anymore the case
since we already saw big anvi shown with a cooler like on rtx 20 series
thick elk
They moved away from blowers but that does not magically make it a good cooler.
I do certianly hope it improves.
ashen spindle
it makes it a lot easier to have it be a good cooler lol
it helps they are not the ones with 350W cards
misty saffron
has money for 3950x and 3090, but cheaps out on psu
@prisma crag i just don’t wanna buy another one lol
i already have 5 and no idea what to do with them
man selling is such a pain in the ass
ashen spindle
open it up and throw it at a child playground when they are yelling too loud again
misty saffron
i am in russia so there are yelling alcoholics instead
would work either way
mansen was the one who shilled me the psu so i’d guess it’s good lol
halcyon moss
is half of that board power management?
vagrant marsh
You always need a phone
thick elk
New phones have been sidegrades for a long time now in my opinion.
Material choice goes down first metal now glass.
Replaceable batteries: gone
now those overstretched screens
dual front speakers also a sacrifice I'd have to make generally.
Expandable storage is getting rarer
At leat the bezels are getting smaller, the camera's better and the phones faster with unnessesary amounts of ram
/rantoff
Meanwhile usb-2 connectors are still very common as are shitty vibration motors.
vagrant marsh
Yea. My dad bought a huge ass powerbank with micro usb. Takes almost 2 full days to charge it.
I told him he didnt even need it in the first place cause he already got a good powerbank and second he would need one with usb c preferably.
wheat plume
TIL you get a temporary tattoo sticker when you buy a Poco X3 NFC
ashen spindle
didnt expect a lana reveal in tech talk
ashen spindle
wheat plume
:P
halcyon moss
i'm waiting for the pixel 5.. but my pixel 2xl is still fine
wheat plume
I want the 4A, I may get that as my next phone when this one gets really bad
wheat plume
old marlin
tbh
idc about phone cpu power anymore
that huge battery seems enticing
and 120hz also seems good
and you can get it for under 300 withotu a sale
with 128gb internal storage
AND it ships with miui
which is still better than random chinese android
wheat plume
MIUI 12 is packed with nice features
but I find the audio quality is shit
compared to other custom roms I have tried, its not very good
old marlin
at least it still has a headphone jack 
and you could potentially just flash anything else on it
wheat plume
yep
old marlin
I love how NFC is a big enough feaute to get into the name
wheat plume
Yeh.....
On the redmi note series they just add "t" to the phone name to specify it had NFC
Redmi note 8
Redmi note 8T
:')
wheat plume
turns out trying to connect a laptop to a 21:9 display just makes the screen shows 1920x1080 but stretched to be as wide as 21;9 and it looks horrible ;-;
ashen spindle
.. so change it?
wheat plume
I cant go higher than 1920x1080
ashen spindle
do you want to use the monitor and not the laptop or do you want to use both
wheat plume
both
ashen spindle
as two screens or both showing the same
ashen spindle
do you want to use them as two seperate ones or should both show the same
wheat plume
seperate
ashen spindle
uhhh, check nvidia control panel if that lets you set the correct resolution for the monitor
ashen spindle
or amd/intel equivalent
wheat plume
don tknow if there is that for linux
xrandr doesnt show native monitor resolution either
ashen spindle
well, google if there is one, dont see how there could not be one
could always be something else on linux but thats the only thing I know, the software managing your gpu
crimson wigeon
wheat plume
wat are all the numbers after the second command?
ashen spindle
.. you have to put something in startup so your monitors dont fuck up? wtf
crimson wigeon
Yes those who don't use a full fat DE tend to script up xrandr commands like that
wheat plume
idk what the numbers after the resolution do xrandr --newmode "1680x1050_60.00" 146.25 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync
crimson wigeon
That's all timing, don't change them and only use the values returned from cvt
crimson wigeon
Yes you should give it your desired resolution and refresh.. (and -r for reduced blanking if you feel like it)
wheat plume
reduced blanking?
crimson wigeon
Reduces blanking between lines, only really matters for oldschool CRTs
wheat plume
crimson wigeon
So for LCDs you do want reduced blanking, for CRTs you're gonna kill them if you do reduced blanking
wheat plume
thats what I did to get that command
but the command after it, idk the numbers
what do the numbers mean mason xd
crimson wigeon
xrandr --newmode "2560x1080_60.00" 230.00 2560 .....
wheat plume
hm
ashen spindle
I mean you put them into xrandr, so just do man xrandr if you want to know what it is...
wheat plume
I asusme I cant put the . .. . . in the command zd
ashen spindle
ok serious question did you look at the link ngh posted, it literally is a step by step answer
crimson wigeon
Yeah you should paste in the numbers from cvt...
wheat plume
the ones I gave it in the command abovve?
yeah I know, but idk what the 9 numbers before +hsync are
oh
the modline output
crimson wigeon
It looks pwetty
wheat plume
oh, byt HDMI1 instead of VGA-0
doesn tknow what option 230.00 is
rip
xrandr: unrecognized option '230.00' Try 'xrandr --help' for more information.
crimson wigeon
post input
wheat plume
xrandr --addmode HDMI1 "2560x1080_60.00" 230.00 2560 2720 2992 3424 1080 1083 1093 1120 -hsync +vsync
ashen spindle
erm you are mixing the two commands into one
crimson wigeon
First you create the new mode with --newmode... then you attach it to an output with --addmode and --addmode only needs the output name and mode name..
wheat plume
I changed --addmode to --newmode and it said it doesnt like -hsync
ashen spindle
did you also remove the HDMI1
crimson wigeon
newmode don't need to know about the output...
crimson wigeon
where
ashen spindle
read it again
reef tundra
xrandr --output [DP-2/or other] --panning 0x0
reef tundra
set panning to 0x0, this would be the scrolling effect over desktopsin one monitor
wheat plume
after that command, I can select that option in the settings
reef tundra
untill you reset I believe
reef tundra
need to add to some file for permanent(er) use
reef tundra
Could make a script with acpi hook
ashen spindle
still feel like there's a good chance the gpu's control software would also be able to fix it ¯_(ツ)_/¯ with no need to write some startup script
well yeah
its just a gpu
reef tundra
or have it in the user binary for quick addition of the mode
crimson wigeon
Intel and AMD delegate "easy to use GUI for configuration" to the community, and I don't have much experience with those
reef patrol
AMD has for theirs. Don't know about Intel.
ashen spindle
I mean I'd prefer to have nvidia control panel/amd/intel equivalent regardless
crimson wigeon
Kinda prefer the hackery terminal way, feels more straight to the point than the overly flashy control panels one has to use on Windows
reef tundra
xrandr is pretty much the xorg way of display managment
reef tundra
yea lol, its a joke
crimson wigeon
Yeah sure Nvidia hasn't updated theirs in forever
But then you look at how glitzy the Intel and AMD control panels are..
ashen spindle
¯_(ツ)_/¯ my idea is that the vendor should know how their hardware works better than some random user, but then again, amd drivers...
reef tundra
Also nvidia following the Windows UI mentality? bold. You want ui you get one, or three or more like 5 mintermixed each one more useless than its older version
nvidia just rocking the 95 look
or xp?
seems both
crimson wigeon
Yeah those are XP icons there
reef tundra
Alleast it has all the settings
not the where the is the ahhhhhh no this is useless where is the old one oh god folder and viola correct usable ui
Really dislike the new audio manager
it does nothing except more or less which the widget did already
and hide the menu in advanced
for the xp or 7 menu as it works
ivory geyser
You will find Win XP-like settings.
reef tundra
also have this in the desktop it helps keep sanity
It even has the tools nobody even knew existed
reef patrol
You have been killed by system daemon
reef tundra
It is like the aesthetic doesnt bother many people but the lack of features
crimson wigeon
Ah, perfection, straight from Windows 3.x, wish they'd go back to this design style
reef tundra
Remember when UI was about having seamless and productive way to use the system too bad this menu has frosted glass effect and we like it
ivory geyser
Remember when UI was about having seamless and productive way to use the system too bad this menu has frosted glass effect and we like it
So never?
reef tundra
That were the reasons for guis to exist mostly, usability. Which is questionable for quite some software with design of the settings are in 3 sub menus that have like 2 sub menus idk one is double for the lols the other is crashing everything. And the Ui so complex it rivals airplanes in button density. pls let me have more than 4 by 4 pixels to select the button
wheat plume
wtf
crimson wigeon
Yeah that interface isn't great
reef tundra
Also they suddenly got really to the Square design. Ever since 8. Lol live tiles
There was a really nice looking ui redesign that seems to look good
also really annoying was the notifitions and volume control being soooooo slow
and reset this timer if the mouse was close
it feels so long when something is hidden by it and you just have to wait for the timer to finnaly runout
pale sigil
I loved this show so much... omg it just brings out my inner child so much
Tech related cos space
wheat plume
Calling Linux crap because it cannot run software designed for Windows is like calling a worm crap and useless because it cannot fly
Random person in the comments of a youtube video
ashen spindle
unless you need to use aviation in that case the worm is useless
wheat plume
xd
reef tundra
And more often linux has better windows support than windoow does itself
wheat plume
cough cough the new doom game and most retro emulators
ashen spindle
ah yes, most often as shown by checks notes one game
wheat plume
There are people packaging the libreoffice suite on the windows store and charging like $5 for it
-.-
its just random people, no one from the actual libre office team
ivory geyser
Who would buy that crap for 5$
ashen spindle
ok so dont buy it?
ashen spindle
I mean this happens all the time
more often on mobile bc lol windows store
but like, people put a flashlight app on app stores for 10$ that does nothing but activate the flash
wheat plume
yeh...
why do people need a flashlight app?
every phone ever has a way to use the flash in the quick toggles
wheat plume
-.- yeh, break the laws of physics to make it brighter than it was designed to be
ashen spindle
that's not really what they are saying
wheat plume
i know xd
ashen spindle
just say its makes it max brightness and the phone app only does 80%
bam convinced 20 more people to buy it
wheat plume
true
reef tundra
sorry but camera is already in use -wha
calm sparrow
How many people would be mad at me if I told my best buy story from like two days ago
So basically I needed to get thermal compound, and we go to best buy, after like 10 minutes we're like, "We're fucking blind, let's go ask an employee" and after another 5 of waiting, we head to the isle, and he gives me the most expensive one i've seen and instead of arguing with a best buy employee, I just go with it and spend 14.89 usd on 5 grams of thermal compund.
tender sparrow
It's often the only one they have in stock
But I've seen 4 grams of paste go for $13
reef tundra
He be swindeled while doing smooth bussiness transactions
lol, getting scammed by getting the thermal compound Well aleast it will maybe perform mediocre to good unlike the marketing want to believe
could be useful to see if the interwebs has some available
sharp tusk
Went to buy thermal compound in local store and asked if they sell isopropyl to get off the old ones from the cooler, the clerk didnt know what i was talking about 
PC focused store
reef tundra
rubbing alcohol might be a different name
fair gull
tbf pc focused stores arent the ones that sell u ipa usually
we buy ours from the local pharmacy
reef tundra
99.9 % or im out
fair gull
60 does the same job except taking a few more seconds to flash off
reef tundra
lighter to speed it even more up
*firehazards are overrated anyways we have insurance just dont tell em
sharp tusk
There is no translation to rubbing alcohol in finnish i think
And yea figured they didnt have anything to clean the thermal compound off so went to the car accessories store nearby which had it
reef tundra
Isopropyl alcohol (IUPAC name propan-2-ol; commonly called isopropanol or 2-propanol)
Other names
2-Propanol
Isopropanol[1]
Rubbing alcohol
sec-Propyl alcohol
s-Propanol
iPrOH
i-PrOH
IpOH
Dimethyl carbinol
IPA
lol
there are a lot
sharp tusk
I mean there is no casual word equal to rubbing alcohol so you just ask for isopropyl
reef tundra
Rubbing alcohol I believe is more general term for denatured alcohols for cleaning
isopropyl is most commonly used
halcyon moss
i might really need to upgrade my laptop to 32GB O_o
reef tundra
Or eh swap
halcyon moss
1gb out of 2 🙈
urban lynx
you forget that stores hire salespeople. not technicians.
vagrant marsh
Dear diary,
It has been 4 days since ive lost access to my pc. After the chromebook experiment deemed somewhat a success, but not satisfactory yet, i tried it with a wowfully outdated intel laptop. After several measures and attempts, as amusing as the thought was, it was a complete failure. Im having thoughts of conflict. Is a 2 year old chromebook better than my 10 year old laptop? Though the results are clear, im having trouble accepting them.
So in order to see what else the chromebook is capable of, i have unlocked the bios and has set everything to unlimited. It has no active cooling so i dont expect it...to...
Dear diary, second entry.
Im on my way to the store to buy my father a new chromebook
😆
Nah, just kidding. About the chromebook busted.
ashen spindle
I mean I would say wow it's unexpected the shop takes forever but I expected it so.. 
vagrant marsh
I brought it in saturday. Sunday they are closed. Atleast the front store, the warehouse part still preps orders to be delivered, so they only started yesterday. The only sign of life i had yesterday from them was asking for my windows password.
Good thing i search porn incognito
Plus, it could be a complicated problem. At first i thought it was ryzen master causing the issues so i removed it. Problem persists. I replaced the soundcard, a little improvement was noticed. I replaced ram, a little improvement was noticed, but nothing fixed it entirely. So its either mb or cpu
Yes, i replaced the soundcard. Sold the old one for a good price though, and he didnt ask for a refund yet so i guess it was still working well enough
wheat plume
is 300MB too large for an EFI boot partition??
proud nacelle
I've gotten away with 100MB before. No harm in making it 300MB anyway.
wheat plume
only using 280KB
im glad this told me my laptop is EFI tho, i wasnt sure about that if I wanted to do an actual arch install
proud nacelle
You can go into your bios to find out
Just check for something called "Legacy boot" or "UEFI" / "EFI"
wheat plume
oooh
reef patrol
100-300MB is pretty typical iirc
wheat plume
ook, Arco chose this much
I think Manjaro had 500mb
proud nacelle
It's weird to me though
wheat plume
hm?
proud nacelle
The kernel and grub don't take that much space to begin with
wheat plume
yeah, they tiny
proud nacelle
You'd need like a bunch of kernels for it to add up.
wheat plume
yeah, true
reef tundra
just give it a gig
proud nacelle
You know what's even more confusing
Why give it a directory anyway?
Why not put it in the root dir?
reef tundra
because it makes it easier to interact with
reef tundra
and the bootloader looks for /boot to continue
wheat plume
It has to be in /boot IIRC
proud nacelle
Actually now that I think of it
EFI requires it to be a VFAT 32.
And it doesn't have to be in boot at all either.
I guess I do
I shouldn't
reef tundra
symlink the entire system around
proud nacelle
It should be in /boot by following FHS. https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/ch03s05.html
But for it to be it's own seperate partition mounted to /boot, not required.
reef tundra
just makes filesystems easier
wheat plume
the grub.cfg file is packed with crap in this install cause there are many grub entries
crimson wigeon
/boot/efi is where the EFI System partition usually goes
reef tundra
mmm might be a bra moment
proud nacelle
He's saying bruh.
reef tundra
why not use the modern uefi
proud nacelle
it's irrelevant to the discussion
reef tundra
aight preach
wheat plume
shh, I know :')
pop OS installed bundles NI with the UK, noice noice
no, ive become addicted to a linux channel on youtube
this is his PopOS video
reef tundra
That doesnt sound like arch
wheat plume
nope
reef tundra
weird sounding ring to it
wheat plume
its why Im not using PopOS xd
cause not Arch based
guess so
never seen it on an installer before
reef tundra
Seems incorrect even concidering the vague uses and definations of what is what
wheat plume
Yeah, I do like the installer for PopOS, its really easy and pretty
760mb to install Telegram via Flathub
danng
reef tundra
Should it not be (British) English? As a lot of different languages would be spoken
Welsh, scottish, irish
wheat plume
if you spoke a different language and lived there, youd select whatever language xd
but you still need england as your time zone
England is my city
reef tundra
That is already scuffed.
Also the font is weird. Does it have capitalisation? doesnt seem like it, but kinda does
reef tundra
its seems like it just increases the font size
wheat plume
the height seems to be higher on some letters than others
and small letters are the same height as capitals
it looks nice in the UI
cursive summit
Anyone interested in next gen consoles and their prices? 😄 https://twitter.com/i/status/1303252607759130624
The "Loudspeaker" Xbox Series S
reef tundra
misty saffron
that loudspeaker design looks pretty good imo
definitely more like a console than a retarded pc
cursive summit
I like my Router PS5 😄
All depends on the pricing of PS5
If Digital edition is 399 I might actually pick it up
misty saffron
i still don’t get why the fuck sony decided to make it look like a router
cursive summit
It's cool
pale sigil
bruh
cursive summit
Did they announce Series X price yet?
misty saffron
there is absolutely no way no employees noticed it’s a fucking router
cursive summit
Rumours were it costed 499
cursive summit
People were saying PS3 was promising similar stuff
misty saffron
tbh might buy an xbox if it’s as cheap and gives the experience they promised
mostly because the game pass crap sells for $3 a month on russian websites
cursive summit
3 BUCKS FOR GAME PASS?
cursive summit
I need this in my life
misty saffron
it was something around that in 2 week codes yeah
cursive summit
But Microsoft hasn't released anything too relevant for me to invest into game pass
🤔
shadow minnow
I would not maybe buy it cause of just 500gb
cursive summit
Almost as if that NVMe PCIe 4.0 drive costs half of that console
misty saffron
it’s probably 500gb for a reason
i’d like to think they would have put a bigger drive into an all digital console if it was necessary
cursive summit
If you are buying a budget console you probably can't afford enough games to fill that SSD up
wheat plume
misty saffron
are there any gpu heat gun reflow guides
or do i literally just blast it with my heat gun at x temperature for y seconds
fair gull
i dont believe in reflowing in general
at least for any bga chip
its more like a bandaid
than a fix
but yes just place heatsinks on anything around the part u wanna reflow
blast it
till u can slightly nudge it with tweezers
and then let cool down
if u nudge it too much ull prob need bga soldering no matter what
misty saffron
it’s an old toshiba laptop the gpu of which i just want to revive, how much it’ll last is something i care about the least really
misty saffron
what temps do i wanna do, around 350?
misty saffron
i just really don’t want to spend $50 on a new gpu card when trying to fix is free
misty saffron
give me a second, i’ll take a pic
reef tundra
probably low to medium air flow with 350 should be enough to melt the beads and have enough time to not popcorn it
fair gull
oh ya dont blast it to long
reef tundra
keep it moving
fair gull
thats why u very very very lightly try to just give it the slightest nudge with tweezers
reef tundra
circles whatever
fair gull
imagine it sliding off like a pizza from a window
misty saffron
fair gull
damn
reef tundra
C
fair gull
na just the same
misty saffron
i really doubt it
reef tundra
Which almost always ends up to popcorning
reef tundra
if it has enough airflow you could for lower temps
most cant deliver that lol
so temp has to be high not just heat it and keep it there
and reflowing only has a chance of working when some beads are looking iffy
fair gull
if the gpu is already cracked or the pcb is fucked reflowing wont help but if its nothing important i dont see why not to try
reef tundra
just for those situation where it might have disconnected some beads or are looking shorted and tin whiskets finnaly got to them or something like that
if something has failed it will be commonly somethwere in the power delivery
reef tundra
oof
fair gull
how short did u heat it lol
reef tundra
ohh yea most have slow heating ones
fair gull
idk man
like imagine air reflowing like soldering without touching any component with the iron
just by radiating heat
reef tundra
here have some hot air
misty saffron
how short did u heat it lol
@fair gull at least 3 minutes
reef tundra
that size might take a few minutes to have much effect
misty saffron
my station can do 480 so still got some leeway
reef tundra
pcb cracks due to the heat /s
fair gull
inb4 liquid pcb
misty saffron
there we go
budged at 450
kinda anxious i might’ve rocked it too hard but i think it’ll be fine
you can’t imagine how annoying it is not to have steady hands
pcb cracks due to the heat /s
@reef tundra it feels like a quality pcb so don’t think that’s an issue
fair gull
thats what all pcbs feel like
reef tundra
Thermal shock doesnt care
reef tundra
often they are getting small hairline cracks to make your day filled
reef tundra
bypass or tossing
fair gull
bypassing requires tons of experience with the gpu at hand usually
to actually track down the issue
reef tundra
connect what once was connected and pray it was enough
fair gull
if its cracked in the sandwhiched layers ull not eaily find out
reef tundra
often with the modern boards and 12 to 16 layers no
misty saffron
aww, gpu still fucked
actually
maybe now
i can proudly say it’s half fucked now
thick elk
It even turned cyrillic, truelly fucked indeed.
misty saffron
misty saffron
welp, was worth a try
reef tundra
little too much of the csgo ?
misty saffron
it only worked in lowest resolution 4 colors before but still
misty saffron
i don’t have any vga cables...
i’m sure the connection is fine, it had no stripes in low res mode crap
thick elk
It being fine in lower ress makes me suspect the cable / connector / monitor
misty saffron
maybe i’ll find a cable in one of the garbage boxes, sec
reef tundra
some frequencies or resolutions are just a little bit off and are glitchy
but pll should compensate
If it is even there
misty saffron
never thought i’d say that but all i got is displayport and hdmi
reef tundra
The vga clock is yeeted then
reef tundra
It not complex and way below theoretical limits
It could be that the pull-up or pull-down resistor got yeeted for the hsync and vsync
but would make it fail
misty saffron
might get another toshiba satellite and try the gpu card in that
reef tundra
Vga is not worth it
misty saffron
i kinda want that laptop, wasn’t the cheapest at the time lol
misty saffron
i don’t want to use any cables with a laptop really, defeats the purpose of it being a laptop
is this amount of hollow space normal in a hard drive lol
reef tundra
oh no
reef patrol
hollow space?
reef tundra
that is a way to kill hdd
misty saffron
i’m not very good at english, it’s fine
that is a way to kill hdd
@reef tundra already certainly dead, all good lol
reef patrol
You mean the gap with no components between the controller PCB and the arms? Yes.
misty saffron
yeah that
reef patrol
Otherwise you wouldn't be able to install the arms in between the platters.
It has to go in VERY carefully from the side.
misty saffron
til
reef tundra
there should be room for the reader head to move back and forth. onto the platters and not
misty saffron
makes sense it’s the double platter being like that then
misty saffron
speaking of
i wonder if there are any good super high capacity hdds nowadays
the ones which i’ve read reviews on apparently keep doing retarded shit
reef tundra
Nope
misty saffron
@reef tundra heard you like dead drives
reef tundra
electritics are still cheap enough
misty saffron
eh, really not worth it with those
misty saffron
all below 250gb
reef tundra
the one that western digital go t flak for?
as ther used them on the nas orieriended drives
misty saffron
hdds look cool on display for whatever reason
honestly thought about putting it under glass and hanging on the wall, but i’ll move in a year or so, not worth the effort for now
no 3.5 inch ones because somehow i’m really lucky for those to be way too reliable, the one from my pc i had like 10 years ago still works perfectly fine
do you have any gpus?
now i do :p
ashen spindle
@fickle ore you seen any of the tech channels covering the nvidia LDAT/PCAT stuff? any of them satisfy your needs? :p
?
uhhh, are you sure you know that those two things are lol
it's not a thing for endusers
vagrant marsh
Physx isnt dead yet, is it?
fair gull
nvidia is dead as we all know
vagrant marsh
I think i still see my driver installing it
ashen spindle
gpu physx != cpu physx
fickle ore
@ashen spindle Nope. Whats LDAT/PCAT?
ashen spindle
nvidia tools/hardware for latency testing
mostly because it's not meant to be sold to end users...
fickle ore
It can show latency from mouse click to photons on my screen?
might need to get athat
fickle ore
Not that I really need, I can theoretize everything.. But would be nice to find out if I'm wrong
ashen spindle
yes and fairly accurate it seems, obv not as much as total high end equipment
but more than enough for a real usecase approach from what I'm seeing
fickle ore
If its 100$-200$ I might get but if 1k probably not 😉
fair gull
isnt also capable on running on a completely different system
as in like its actually standalone
and has audio latency aswell
ashen spindle
its hardware agnostic and supposed to be open sourced in the future too
ashen spindle
I think its more like GN said, for having a way to better market higher fps in future generations to people who think they dont need more
fair gull
not like ill really concern myself with it
more interest personally in hardware power measuring of pcie cards
fair gull
EAKLE
old marlin
urban lynx
what brand would be a good choice in buying your gpu later on? 
old marlin
?
urban lynx
like, the chipsets are manufactured by different companies, arent they? or the cards in general, or am i mistaken?
old marlin
there aren;t all models known
fair gull
no
fair gull
there was a 3090 right
fair gull
any pricing on that yet?
old marlin
there still can be difference in memory manufacturers and power delivery
which can affect overclocking
yep
urban lynx
supposedly around 1300-1400 i think
fair gull
that fits with me then
fair gull
i really hope the 3090 doesnt go over 1.5
old marlin
1.7k
fair gull
well fuck
ashen spindle
like, the chipsets are manufactured by different companies, arent they? or the cards in general, or am i mistaken?
@urban lynx chip is from nvidia always, cooler will be different, pcb can be different, but it's a guess who makes the better coolers, so need to wait for reviews
fair gull
i only planned in 1.5k max for a new gpu
fair gull
ya
urban lynx
ah fuck. my preferred site for comparing hardware hasnt the 3090 listed yet.
fair gull
and more tensor cores mainly
old marlin
let's hope evga performs better than it looks 
fair gull
dont care bout gaming
fair gull
theyll all be better than my current gpu
old marlin
like solid leaks
ashen spindle
yes 16/20 gb versions of the 70/80 but not known to be ti/super models or just different names
fair gull
id guess a 3080ti would fall between the 3080 and 3090
urban lynx
... how long would we need to wait on ti versions?
old marlin
not known
fair gull
i mean rn i only got 11
ashen spindle
my guess is till AMD announces big navi
old marlin
probably shortly after AMD announcement
urban lynx
ah wtf. why so many stupid waiting things?
cant i get everything before cyberpunk supposedly release?
fair gull
i already thought about maybe a cheap used quadro rtx
ashen spindle
to have a option that sounds better than the competition
old marlin
there will be a big price drop with it anyways
fair gull
for the vram
ashen spindle
yes most likely out before cyberpunk
urban lynx
i cant play cyberpunk on a bloody 750ti
fair gull
altho how much do 2080tis go for now
urban lynx
700
old marlin
yea
fair gull
instead of mirrored
old marlin
you can probably snag one for "cheap"
urban lynx
when's "navi" announcement?
fair gull
well 700 for 11gb vram to make 22 or 1.7k for 24gigs
old marlin
and more tensor cores
fair gull
thats the thing
old marlin
they can load directly from nvme
fair gull
idk how good the cards perform irl
fair gull
guess ill have to wait
reef tundra
This is what ya neeed
pale sigil
imagine paying 1.5k euro for a gpu 
reef tundra
need some way to pay that money
fair gull
@pale sigil imagine waiting 10 days to train a small dnn
pale sigil
xD
reef tundra
and organs are worth something
just voluntairly romove 1 kidney 1 lung and organ to choise to make those stonks
fair gull
i am sure organ selling is illegal
dapper ridge
cant you donate organs and get a tax write off? because it is a gift?
just gotta find a source for those organs and bam tax write offs for life
ashen spindle
when's "navi" announcement?
@urban lynx at some point before console release
reef tundra
Why care for legality if they dont have the organs to do so
ashen spindle
so my bet is this month or early next
reef tundra
average rimworld playthrough
All to feed that gpu costs
Drug empire should also be profitable
I mean dont try to raid the fortified fortress that can throw multiple nukes where they would like to. Also you can donate those organs for goodwill with other factions
That game is really good at stripping me from any morals.
but what if it rendered at even more frames
urban lynx
i think rimworld first runs out of ram and cpu than of gpu ressources 
dapper ridge
1tb of ram then
vagrant marsh
yea, but then you cant hear us because of the fan spin
zenith sonnet
Conspiracy theory:
Nvidia made the latency tool to cheat benchmarks and make AMD look worse, since AMD has been very slightly better in that regard
reef tundra
Where the tin foil be at,
fickle ore
@ashen spindle yea fuck prices 3070 will be like 700€ kek
reef tundra
I need to reinforce the 5g waves
ashen spindle
? no? you can order FE models for MSRP
ofc the super nice coolers cost more, but AiBs cant charge more if the cooler is about the same
fickle ore
ye maybe in US with tax avoidance
ashen spindle
??? you can order FE in europe aswell from nvidia directly
reef tundra
fickle ore
errytime fucked
ashen spindle
¯_(ツ)_/¯ not much I can do there lul
ashen spindle
I mean, amd will also get the tax
zenith sonnet
When is the last time you were able to get a 2080 Ti at MSRP in Germany?
vagrant marsh
you can get a 2080 ti for half price now 😛
fickle ore
yo guys know if the gtx 3060/70 can fit into Lancool II Mesh