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vagrant marsh
reef tundra
This is a new era for intel? The dark ages was also a new era for Europe.
reef tundra
Intel: We have a 1080p stream... 1080 pixels
sorry we are running intel hardwere here and the budget has tried up
ashen spindle
too bad they also only had 1080 words limit to transmit and had to waste it all on marketing
ashen spindle
why would they say anything about desktop during a mobile launch
reef tundra
The more marketing wank they say the more it smell of shit, lying shits
ashen spindle
ye the 3090 is definitely a paper launch, 8nm yields are shit
the others idk, 70 should be fine bc it already launches later and is the smaller chip
pale sigil
80 for me
ashen spindle
I'd wait to see if the 20/16gb AiB cards come this year
also there is amd
yeah but you live in a debt driven economy so just get more debt bc that's better lul
fickle ore
@ashen spindle https://www.windowscentral.com/sabrents-new-pcie-4-ssd-absurdly-fast-beats-out-samsungs-980-pro
ashen spindle
The drive takes the top spot as the world's current fastest drive.
There's no word yet on when the Rocket 4 Plus will be available or how much it will cost.
how can an unreleased product take any top spot
ashen spindle
sure but if that thing comes out much later who knows if we dont have another samsung out before
shadow minnow
@ashen spindle https://www.windowscentral.com/sabrents-new-pcie-4-ssd-absurdly-fast-beats-out-samsungs-980-pro
@fickle ore me want that ssd how much 2tb?
ashen spindle
how about you read the part where it says we have 0 info about it
shadow minnow
If it under 325€ me buy 100%
Althoug, not 100%
As me not buying not yet
And other similar SSDs with better price can come till then
As I am buying December/January
Or maybe even later cause rocket lake s who knows when it will launch
I hope rocket lake will come in December
If rocket lake s comes out in December me=buy
If rocket lake comes later than December me = have to wait with whole system, to buy
vagrant marsh
turned off my pc, went for a shower, turned it back on. it was quiet. i have my pc since april, and i cant really remember if it ever started properly. i just know it as the pc that started with the fans blowing 100% before lowering the speed. but this new memory ive put in. the pc starts quietly. it even boots faster
i got a message back from the store i bought the memory from, they said they could refund it partially. but if this memory was faulty from the start, they are by law required to fully refund it
ashen spindle
how long did you have it
vagrant marsh
if they are gonna say that "yea, you used xmp and now warranty is void cause you oc'd it" or some other bullshit reason im never gonna purchase anything from them again
since april this year.
but they say they can only partially refund me
sounds like bullcrap
minimal full waranty in europe is 2 years
after 2 years, limited warranty from the manufacturer
but this memory, i think it was faulty from purchase onwards
ashen spindle
so what are the exact issues, it just didnt start up quietly or were there other issues
vagrant marsh
it started up with fans maxed out before they slowed down, on random occasion it would reset bios, presumably because it couldnt fetch the xmp profile, slow boot, sometimes stuck in boot cycle.
once the pc ran, the memory worked just fine. but when booting up, it definately had trouble initiating the memory
ashen spindle
but mem checks and such say the ram is fine?
vagrant marsh
yea, memtest86 did a full day of testing, not a single error
ashen spindle
so might just be the memory not working with either the cpu or the board, memory itself might be absolutely fine
so the store offering a partial refund after this time is more than they need to do
thick elk
Also XMP should not impact warranty and is not an OC of the memory itself.
technically it's a cpu oc
vagrant marsh
i got no idea. its a g.skill one where they say its especially made for amd ryzen lol
ashen spindle
yesn't it's an OC once it goes above jedec spec
vagrant marsh
so being incompatible with my system
thick elk
Memory chips ship / are validated to run at xmp, while the cpu are not, XMP is an oc but not of the memory modules. Just of the Memory controller on the cpu.
ashen spindle
the memory maker validates for jedec, the seller bins for their XMP but cant guarantee it on anything
thick elk
Still to deny you warranty over it would be rather weird considering they primarily advertise the kits with the XMP speeds.
As for the seller they do bin the chips and make / order the pcb.
ashen spindle
they dont deny it, but why should they fully refund a working kit after months
thick elk
If it's a working kit, of course not. Often in those cases the store can take it back and charges a restocking fee.
If it doesn't get to xmp on a motherboard + cpu that is on the qvl of the memory kit that would be a valid reason to call it defective imo
ashen spindle
but his kit works fine there are no issues
or at least none that are traced back to the stick directly
ashen spindle
https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1301225968372195329 anyone need more points that tigerlate is a joke? 
Twitter
thick elk
that semiaccurate article is pretty fun here as well.
shadow minnow
Just take this CPU, you just need to know we say it is best. Best TDP best number of cores best process. Just take this for 599$/649€/599£ 
shadow minnow
Nu, you are not supposed to know how many cores, only thing that matters is real world use case
ashen spindle
nice laptop cpu
shadow minnow
And we gif you best real word speed
Numbers no matter
Just how you see it irl
Just real usecases
Who needs cores, benchmarks...? Useless
thick elk
In the meantime they try as hard as they can to glue extra cores onto their 14nm cpu's.
vagrant marsh
im gonna keep pushing for a full refund though 😛 i want my 144 euro back. the memory is defective.
shadow minnow
Why 144 
that s numbr
ashen spindle
you say while having 0 proof of it and it seemed to work since you got it
vagrant marsh
yes, that is a number
i know @ashen spindle the pc was assembled by them for crying out loud. you think if the memory didnt work back then they would have sold it to me?
actually...
shadow minnow
Why 0 proof? Numba again, dosn’t matter. Just if it works or not.
ashen spindle
okay now you are just posting nonsense bexin
vagrant marsh
and european warranty is 2 years. product breaks during those 2 years, im entitled to a full refund
ashen spindle
but it didnt break?
ashen spindle
what's defective about it?
shadow minnow
We intel have nothing to do with your memory
ashen spindle
I know what you wrote, but there is no indication its the memory really
vagrant marsh
yea, i replace memory with another set of memory, problem disappears. null indication its the memory
ashen spindle
if they stick it into a test system and it works just fine, what do you think they say? "yes very broken, here full refund"?
vagrant marsh
ofcourse!
shadow minnow
vagrant marsh
im not ignorant, i know they probably wont
im gonna push a full refund regardless.
thick elk
From what I know from others most of the time with memory rma's they will not go to the trouble of validating and will just grant you a replacement.
vagrant marsh
i know nvidia did 3 FUCKING TIMES
had to rma my 2070 3x before i finally got a working one
it was just 1 of the fans that wasnt spinning! all they had to do was replace the fan motor
that was it
intel is hte future
shadow minnow
Nu
vagrant marsh
intel Xe
ashen spindle
nah get him to amd so he fixes it
shadow minnow
TAP stay here
shadow minnow
True
ashen spindle
32x the cost 64x the TDP
shadow minnow
I can confirm
ashen spindle
0.128x the power
shadow minnow
10 times Microsoft word speed, that matters, not di benchmarks
pale sigil
Loads slides a few ms quicker
shadow minnow
Loads slides a few ms quicker
@pale sigil that is what matters
vagrant marsh
i do wonder if they will bring out a 3150, 3150 ti, 3150 super, 3160, 3160 ti, 3160 super
or will tehy all be a 3000 series
i mean, are they gonna provide tensor cores to all cards now?
shadow minnow
We bring out our 5nm XPg wait for it
thick elk
They may very well release a 1700 series next to the 3000 for the non rt cards
vagrant marsh
@shadow minnow senpai of the cpu's, grand us your wisdom
thick elk
I really don't know if they keep it in the entire stack, on low end cards it would either be practically useless or use up a large part of the silicon
thick elk
AMD often does not do refreshes of their entire stack so may just sell lower end rdna1 cards
though I do think they claimed not to.
vagrant marsh
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shadow minnow
I will give you new best gaming CPU soon, i9 11900k 
shadow minnow
Fastest MS word ever
vagrant marsh
when intel releases the Xe graphics cards, they will have to do the same as epic and buy their fame XD
shadow minnow
You mean XPg
vagrant marsh
XPg is gonna be the graphics card?
ashen spindle
xpg is already used by adata for ram so gl with that change
vagrant marsh
shadow minnow
eXPerience gaming
vagrant marsh
xpg
its so gaming its put twice in the name
xpg is a...company...
appearently
ashen spindle
its a sub company of adata iirc
shadow minnow
XPg is not company though, it my GPUs
shadow minnow
XPG - brand XPg - GPU
shadow minnow
I renamed it from Xe to XPg
Also I will teas sth
Intel AI car
IntelAICar
IAIC
vagrant marsh
Intel can learn from nvidia about AI
shadow minnow
INtel INovation
shadow minnow
XPg better
vagrant marsh
I guess we have to wait on gamers nexus to find out if nvidia's own cooling sollution is actually better
shadow minnow
XPg has cooling that is better in real life usecases
vagrant marsh
shadow minnow
Thats my laptop grade gpu
EXtremly low power
Xe
He for data centers
High energy
vagrant marsh
Would you stop it already. We get it. Ur disappointed. Go visit a pornsite.
shadow minnow
But, what about Intel CE Centered balancE ? Balance between price and performance and power
ashen spindle
what about you just stop posting unfunny crap
reef tundra
"Low power" CPU - We looked at the data and when core is off it uses less power than on so we rrandomly disable them to conserve the power usage
reef tundra
IP block for just 499 per licence now available in any descriptive language (VHDL, Verlog, SystemVerilog) for the FPGA and hardware developers out there. But also available as one time exclusive only from intelandalterasucks.com for just 1299* for the memory mapped version and not custom protocol which has 2999 licencing fee per developer per interface. Also documentation sold per page seperatly given at random.
*per/month.
zenith sonnet
@fickle ore Any mention of type of NAND used or IOPS for that Sabrent drive?
Ampere is 90% marketing fluff and 10% real improvements 
shadow minnow
Ampere is 90% marketing fluff and 10% real improvements
@zenith sonnet not true
reef tundra
zenith sonnet
@shadow minnow Since neither of us has any proof, we'll have to agree to disagree
shadow minnow
I have proof
Digital foundry video for example
I mean really, it is huge performance jump, how can you say it is not?
reef patrol
For legal reasons I must remind everyone that dipping your Wooting in pudding is NOT covered by warranty.
reef tundra
But what about Jelly?
zenith sonnet
@shadow minnow Do they have independant benchmarks?
vagrant marsh
for legal reasons i must remind you that i can return a wooting within 2 weeks without giving any reasons.
wqhat happened in those 2 weeks is not your concern
😛
shadow minnow
reef tundra
"Relative performance" = marketing wank and a dart board
for legal reasons i must remind you that i can return a wooting within 2 weeks without giving any reasons.
@vagrant marsh mmm, restrictions apply
shadow minnow
@shadow minnow Do they have independant benchmarks?
@zenith sonnet it really is big enough performance boost, I mean are you trolling right now or do you really not believe 3080 is at least 1.5 times 2080?
reef tundra
In what way? fps? benchmarking score and in what tests?
reef patrol
I think if you try to return a puddingfied Wooting, Jeroen will personally fly to your home, paradrop and slap you silly with the said keyboard.
shadow minnow
reef tundra
He will recreate the SS paratroopers
shadow minnow
I will do that just to invite Jeroen to my house
reef tundra
but now they are rebranded to $$ paratroopers
reef tundra
cus dolla dolla is how the world works and i want all the money
all of it
Then maybe just put it in some big vault and swim in it
vagrant marsh
@reef patrol you tempt me
reef tundra
i dont know as i did not think this through other than i want all the money
vagrant marsh
i accept your challange
shadow minnow
Mansen really thanks for advice I will do exactly that
reef patrol
reef tundra
FIGHT TO THE DEATH
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shadow minnow
@reef patrol I also accept challenge, jeroen himself will visit me
Really Really thanks 
reef tundra
It slowly becomes a firing squad
reef patrol
shadow minnow
Who is gonna join:
PuddingWootingReturn14DaysEUForJeroenVisit
You will get visited by Jeroen if you do the challenge
Let’s do so
reef tundra
1v1 360 noscope falldamage on poison 2 at 8 thousands blocks no elystra nor bows and 100 blocks initial seperation battle royale max walls directly in buildrestone pocket edition me right now
reef tundra
Why send to others when nvidia can test it themselves to creates the values they want
reef tundra
lsblk is the command to show the storage device tree
oh there is a pastebin
does timedatectl return sane response?
crimson wigeon
looks like sneaky carriage returns have infested that script and are causing chaos
ashen spindle
how much TDP will an AiB 3090 have with higher clocks
reef tundra
ashen spindle
just thought about it, will we see 400W stock models lmao
ashen spindle
Who?
plush summit
It works fine on an installed system but it doesn't work on the install media
reef tundra
And he knowshow to write and report on it how they want him to report on
Eh, its quite immoral to fuck them over by abusing this information to make tons of money off
This kind of information and nature of this would be worth millions
reef tundra
also speaking of crysis. It is on sale for 15,15 for me (entire series) now
shadow minnow
Why send to others when nvidia can test it themselves to creates the values they want
@reef tundra answer is simple
reef tundra
1+1 = aliens? yeas we need to call them out! nvidia is aliens!
Also why the fuck is microsoft teams crying about having no cookies while using 22 atm
zenith sonnet
AMD should do Zen 3 + RDNA2 hardware bundles
Zen 3 is gonna sell like fresh cupcakes anyway, and RDNA2 needs some good marketing
thick elk
The problem with that is AMD does not sell the cards directly, so either the bundle has to come from the board partners or AMD needs to play favorites / also compete with the board partners.
In the current position that is not very likely
old marlin
I mean
thick elk
That being said if for example Gigabyte, MSI, Asus or Asrock makes a bundle including a motherboard even, that could be fine. At that point you are however quite close to selling a whole pc.
old marlin
they did that with polaris
and had a ton of hype
I don't think it worked well though
thick elk
oh yea they did that with MSI. Still the main problem is you are bundling a lot of parts and are getting close to offering a full pc at that point
thick elk
The reason they did it back then was because of bitcoin mining, the bundles would be less attractive to snatch up for mining.
zenith sonnet
Eh, it would obviously have to work by: You pick your AMD CPU of choice and AiB/ref card of choice, and the retailer applies a discount code, or you get a cash back
Physically bundling the components together has too much overhead
thick elk
Going that route it should be a rebate not a discount code.
Discounts would be difficult to validate the store doing correctly.
Even then I don't know how much sense it will make, it would either be a somewhat small rebate or cost a lot of money.
zenith sonnet
I dunno, 50-100€ off a 500-1500€ purchase doesn't cut into margins too deep
reef tundra
Also why is microsoft teams that incompetent to specificly ignore my alsa preferred sound card and even de pulseaudio default sound card has been set to that one. But no, instead of that it only reads the GPU audio output (S/PDIF) which is using an unconnected output to feed the mobo conector controller. But it wont recoqnise the other two audio devices that alsa will report if requested pulseaudio and the generic hd-audio device that the motherboard contains with a 7.1 conntector + microphone back + front mic + front speaker(refered as headset). Pulse audio even normally reads what alsa should respond. Pulseaudio even has seen those controllers with the generic set as default but mc skype teams refuses to read those defaults and only chooses to connect only to the GPU given interface unless it is a microphone then it works fine with the generic driver. But atleast forcing the audio stream to be looped to the generic device works fine. Still thinks it communicates to the GPU device tho.
thick elk
Reminds me of discord, every time my center-left monitor disconnects discord prompts me to switch audio devices.
Sadly the disconnecting happens a lot as for some reason either asus or nvidia decided it's a good idea to disconnect whenever the display is turned off.
At some point I decided to just blacklit all the audio devices I never used.
zenith sonnet
I just disable sound devices I don't use, like display speakers
But one thing pissing me off is HDMI devices getting re-enabled every time the driver updates
reef tundra
get a hub instead
urban lynx
@work
reef tundra
IPS: hello did you use our designated cheapest router today heratic
urban lynx
i dare say my work wifi is okay
wheat plume
I love this guy :') https://youtu.be/Fz6EavNtVGY
plush summit
so can anyone help me with the bash script issues?
wheat plume
hmm, im bad at that ;-;
plush summit
anyone else then
pale sigil
@plush summit Sup
pale sigil
dump
plush summit
plush summit
wheat plume
plasma desktop, nice choice
plush summit
its just a script to get me up and running in 10-20 min
pls help
idk why its not entering the read commands
pale sigil
timedatectl set-ntp: true
it should stop and ask for user input
wheat plume
this is failing?
wheat plume
what is acrolinux?
plush summit
Does not need Colin
crimson wigeon
Like I said last night, clean up those carriage returns (your line endings are CRLF, should be LF, this shouldn't matter but maybe it does)
plush summit
I dont know what that means
crimson wigeon
In your editor of choice find a way of changing line endings from "Windows" to "Unix"
halcyon moss
windows uses \r\n als line endings, linux \n mac \r
plush summit
So I don't know what's causing the problem here
wheat plume
run just the command it fails at on its own and see if that errors out too
plush summit
I'm not sure how to do that unfortunately
Regardless it's not working anyway
I need to get the script to run first
crimson wigeon
Perhaps toggle it to CRLF then back to LF then save then test again
reef tundra
you can add echo command 2>&1 to echo the error or the normal output
halcyon moss
pulled it trough a formatter, maybe it fixed things
plush summit
I'm trying to get the script on to a system that is not installed. So I'm using Pace bin and w get to download the script to the new machine
crimson wigeon
Perhaps pastebin is mangling the line ends then
plush summit
What else do I use
pale sigil
plush summit
I just want to download the file
reef tundra
add it to the iso as a shellscript into the /bin folder
pale sigil
@plush summit
plush summit
How do I do that
crimson wigeon
You do something clever like sed "s/\r//g" script > fixedscript to unfuck the line endings
halcyon moss
ssh? ftp? telnet?
pale sigil
to download to another machine
plush summit
Wget
pale sigil
ye
halcyon moss
pull only?
pale sigil
plush summit
I could use curl
reef tundra
Add to the live installer so it is already availible
plush summit
Does anyone know of any other sites I can use to host the file
I can't rely on you all the time Callum
halcyon moss
ubuntu also has a pastebin
reef tundra
aur
crimson wigeon
A git repo on your lab or hub of choice
halcyon moss
or run a local webserver.
reef tundra
git works out of the box
plush summit
I'll try it for the time being and see if it works
reef tundra
needs install only
crimson wigeon
I know for sure github lets you easily curl the raw files directly without any repo cloning
reef tundra
git clone <url>
pale sigil
cloning is not needed
crimson wigeon
Because I don't think arch ISO has git included
halcyon moss
python3 -m http.server on your computer
crimson wigeon
But what if they want to update the script
halcyon moss
that runs a webserver in the dir you start it in
reef tundra
the arch installer is a arch system in itself so you can just download it
pale sigil
i cant get rid of him anyway
plush summit
you cant git rid of your local furry
pale sigil
see
crimson wigeon
yiff yaff yoff
reef tundra
arch installer can just access the repos
halcyon moss
simple http server liek i posted above (if you're on the same network) works fine for his situation
pale sigil
i use my web server for most of my bash stuff and repo stuff
😄
I used to use it for kodi too
reef tundra
or you preload the installer
halcyon moss
less newlines Mrpleasant :p
pale sigil
halcyon moss
now that the problem is fixed... bash scripting SUUUUUUUCKS
crimson wigeon
Yes
pale sigil
u suck
reef tundra
Yes sharp metal rock
pale sigil
plush summit
im still getting some errors
reef tundra
the aur
pale sigil
if you send me it me
halcyon moss
@primal ether its all fun and games until you are passing around data with null seperators
reef tundra
a git repo
pale sigil
i meant for my file sharing
halcyon moss
fuck, wrong mention
primal ether
lol
reef tundra
GET EM HE HAS DISTURBED THE LORD
pale sigil
to preview my content etc
halcyon moss
i had more faith in discord auto complete.. i know slack's is absolutely trash...
reef tundra
terminal shows me all i need
reef tundra
Why need previews if you have sane naming
pale sigil
Because
i rng the naming for files
imagine using the actual naming system in sharex
reef tundra
tagbased naming
pale sigil
GameLauncher_xd4Lve6qyg.jpg
well no
i tried that
destiny2_BtThCbXpmB.jpg
hate it
reef tundra
Well try harder
crimson wigeon
Fuck that just telnet and type all the raw commands yourself
reef tundra
WebUI is bloat in the largest sense
reef tundra
I have ssh'd my own system
halcyon moss
into?
pale sigil
well ye i do too
I use SSH for almost everything
im very pro terminal
just for some things a webui is nice
reef tundra
ssh x passthrough onto your own monitor
you are now mine, ssh instance
also here have my mouse and keyboard when in focus
pale sigil
xD
crimson wigeon
Uh.. no?
That would just remove the meta package
Which is basically a magic package that depends on the entirety of Plasma so you can install it all easily
proud nacelle
Meta packages are empty packages.
Think of it that way.
They are just a file pulling in other packages.
wheat plume
oooohhhh
crimson wigeon
Of course, but note that then if you would run something like remove unused packages it might "helpfully" remove all of Plasma and whatnot
proud nacelle
True.
wheat plume
I was removing about xfce...for some reason that was installed
and discover
cause I use pamac instead
crimson wigeon
Discover is such garbage anyway it's embarrasing
wheat plume
^^
crimson wigeon
How can a piece of software be so slow
wheat plume
IDK why arco leaves it in, cause they give you pamac also
pale sigil
Mage.exe stop responding
shadow minnow
reef tundra
sudo reboot
proud nacelle
bash: sudo: command not found
wheat plume
doas reboot
reef tundra
su
wheat plume
is a sudo replacement
reef tundra
dont use retarded words
proud nacelle
-bash: doas: command not found
reef tundra
su
proud nacelle
That works.
reef tundra
then reboot
pale sigil
Sudo su
reef tundra
root
proud nacelle
FUCK.
pale sigil
I have all the power now
wheat plume
why is it you need sudo to reboot?
pale sigil
Imagine using a password 
reef tundra
username: root
password: root
pinacle of security
proud nacelle
Also
su -c reboot
would be better than having to type su then the password and then reboot
proud nacelle
Also you can reboot without being root, but you need to change perms.
wheat plume
but in the desktop you can reboot without sudo
reef tundra
That is called how to cringe
reef tundra
seize the means to desktop to become root
wheat plume
:P
reef tundra
Allow all users sudoers privilegis
proud nacelle
Tbf, isn't that what everyone does when they first install
Or well, at least on a desktop pc.
wheat plume
oh...... I may know the issue, or one of them
you cant have a space between #! and /bin/bash in the shebang
reef tundra
else it gets interpreted to be a comment
but it is usual that it would asume to be /bin/sh
crimson wigeon
Well the shebang starts with # which is a comment so it doesn't matter
wheat plume
...then how does it work?
crimson wigeon
And the space is optional it doesn't hurt to have it
crimson wigeon
The shebang works like so: if you try to exec a file the kernel runs some checks to see what kind of file it is, whether it's a standard ELF binary or whatevs, one of these magics is whether the file starts with #!, if it does then it goes to exec whatever comes after with the argument being the file with the shebang
reef tundra
but best to make it a comment if not a correct shebang it will get commented out and not execute the given path
vagrant marsh
well, my pc starts with loud fans again, so that fix with the other memory modules didnt work for long, however, no bios reset so thats atleast 1 problem fixed. the store has replied that they are seeing a possibility in a defective cpu in the complaint description. they want me to return the whole system so they can check it over.
well, since replacing the ram did fix some issues, it could be both. defective ram with defective cpu.
but both showing defects?
ashen spindle
sounds like just issues with the memory controller if anything
vagrant marsh
i dont want to think too hard about it, cause im now worried it might be the motherboard itself
i think i am gonna return the pc for repairs tho, let them figure it out
reef tundra
Check the logs
vagrant marsh
what logs
reef tundra
acpi?
or via the bios/uefi
It might respond to some weird situation with the memory module
Could be that the temparature sensor is not returning the correct temparature
or the ram is misidentified and motherboard then panics it is overheating
vagrant marsh
Hmm
Im in bios now but everything looks normal
No mention of said logs tho
Smart fans also show no weirdness with temps
ashen spindle
miniscule issues like these are always the hardest to nail down bc it could be literally anything
reef tundra
It only appears after the new memory and not the old memory?
ashen spindle
nah the new memory had like a day where it did not start with loud fans but now it also does it
vagrant marsh
Yea
But the bios didnt reset so atleast that part got fixed. But the loud fan spinning is back
ashen spindle
didnt reset (yet)
vagrant marsh
Right
reef tundra
If the motherboard is responding correctly to the intercircuit communication a reset wont solve anything
ashen spindle
nono it sounds like an unwanted reset is happening
vagrant marsh
well, after numerous testing, i came to the hypothesis that it was something with the xmp profile. when the xmp profile wasnt applied, no bios reset happened. when the xmp profile of the original memory was applied, the bios reset at random moments. so one day the bios didnt reset, the next day it would. it wouldnt happen every time i start the pc.
my new memory got the xmp profile activated, and so far no bios resets happened, plus i notice it boots almost twice as fast to windows
with the old memory, the fans would start at 100% before quieting down as it booted up. on the first day of installing my new memory, the fans would start quietly during boot up. however, they now returned to the old behavior of starting at 100%
crimson wigeon
I've never thought of that as a problem
vagrant marsh
me neither. but thats the problem, because the first week i got this pc, it ran fine without any issues. it booted up quietly. after that week, the problems started.
so i remember a time where the pc was quiet at start up 😛
and since the motherboard's LED's keep telling me the bootup sequence is stuck on RAM, i always thought it was a ram problem. but now that the store is even suggesting it could be a defective cpu, i start thinking
and thinking is bad
cause i did watch a vid of paul's hardware some time ago, where he did explain that he had a defective cpu one time and the issue was just so miniscule yet so tedious that it took a long time to find out it was cpu related.
ashen spindle
I mean you didn't need to think, you could've just read that me and someone else yesterday talked about it maybe jsut being the board or cpu :p
vagrant marsh
yea, and i was hopeful that replacing the ram was just enough. and though that did (still being hopeful) solved 1 issue, cause the bios reset thing was the only thing that annoyed me, thinking that my brand new pc has another issue is agonizing.
so i might take the store up on their offer to bring them the system and let them figure it out. they did assemble it, i got a year long assembly warrenty, hench they suggesting that.
BUT LOSING THE PC FOR A LONGER PERIOD THAN 8 HOURS IS ALSO AGONIZING
😭
ashen spindle
I mean you could also just ignore the fans spinning up on bootup lmao
ashen spindle
if its been running for months like that with no issues? dont see a problem
vagrant marsh
true. once the pc is booted to windows, inside windows, no issues is shown.
everything seems to function normally
which is suspicious...
see? i start thinking again
jeruzalem, stop thinking
ashen spindle
idk could be something small on a trace that connects to the bios chip, the bios chip beeing the issue
vagrant marsh
unlike our competition that uses bogus benchmarks
XD
that sounds like intel
i think both intel and amd got a bet going on, who can bullcrap moar
ashen spindle
tbf with that presentation amd has it a lot easier to have the better marketing for once
bc if they make it worse it'll have to be worse than I could imagine
reef tundra
Lol bios auto diagnosic doesnt work
ashen spindle
... that is so wrong on so many levels
reef tundra
That is called agressive cooling response graph
Pretty much tell it to just blast the cooler
Just set the cooler to slowly increase to its desired speed needed to cool it. PID tuning
Also how can a cpu be loud
The angry pixies are not that loud
ashen spindle
thats someone who looks at a tech video for 20 seconds, sees a feature and misunderstands it, then thinks everything is understood
reef tundra
video: amd bad, intel good
viewer: yes * hits the like button *
new video
Also the motherboard can adust the cpu fan controller al be it more crudely
you can also let it run hotter for less noise
reef tundra
Doesnt seem like it
reviews from last year mention the msrb
also weird is that the x is cheaper
which are 80usd
reef tundra
gameing headsets are very often not worth it as they hope the marketing wank will sell it
ashen spindle
.. wow https://twitter.com/aschilling/status/1301561770407088130 nobody got the details about FE pcb so you cant use what nvidia sells for watercooling lmao
Twitter
reef tundra
you cant design a product if the dimentions are unknown
ashen spindle
well yeah, but its confusing that nvidia sells a reference design, that the normal AiB cards use, but they dont use it on their own cards
reef tundra
Then again you do dont know what considerations might have to be kept in mind. maybe there is some cap in the way
ashen spindle
I dont follow
reef tundra
The cooling part and the pcb of the video card
true quest
gaming mice recommendations?
reef tundra
mx master
reef tundra
As you dont know how they meet you cannot know if there are pieces that are going to stickout to work around
ashen spindle
yeah thats why nvidia gives a reference designs out so partner can work on cooling solutions, both air and water
but they didnt give anyone the pcb they use for the FE cards
so this time the FE cards dont use the reference design
reef tundra
they need the exact dimentions especially for water cooling due to it having to keep the liquid from the rest of the videocard and friends
ashen spindle
I just think its the first time the FE cards dont use the reference design as far as I can remember?
reef tundra
The designers would know as they would ask nvidia specifically about this
even if kept the same
you need to know for a fact if that is correct
ashen spindle
I think we are talking past each other
EK and co said they will have watercooling stuff on release day
but that won't fit with the stuff nvidia sells directly, because the board info they gave to EK and AiBs is for a PCB design nvidia isn't using themselves
unlike any other time where reference cards would use reference PCB
ashen spindle
from whom
reef tundra
the watercooling bois
ashen spindle
how so if they got PCB specs for a PCB that nvidia isn't using
vagrant marsh
can some1 explain to me why something like a pcie nvme has less storage than an m.2 nvme? i dont see the logical reasoning behind something as big as this to have less memory than an m.2 nvme
reef tundra
if they just assumed the reference to be the same for the founders edition if it does not specifically tell wether or not the reference is also applicable for it.
vagrant marsh
also, why arnt any1 accepting pre orders yet? even nvidia on their own website only allows for a notification for when pre orders are allowed
reef tundra
you dont know what nvidia would or could change to their design
vagrant marsh
back with the 2000 series they would happily accept pre orders
ashen spindle
no stock, nobody is allowed to accept preorders
reef tundra
Silicone is pretty hard to comeby now
ashen spindle
but, so far every single time FE cards use reference design, why would they assume its different this one time
vagrant marsh
because of covid?
ashen spindle
nah 8nm yields are just bad
reef tundra
then people bought more hardware cus they are stuck inside
and could be that the yield is shit
or they are binning a lot
ashen spindle
people buying stuff before doesn't change how many wavers they can use in a month
and SS yields are shit, part of the reason why TDP is so high
ashen spindle
not really, foundries are not supply limited but limited by how many wavers they can use in a month
tsmc had a gigantic issues with a entire stack of wavers getting contaminated and it barely moved the production
reef tundra
it is when binning for it
or production capacity is limited
or wafers are more expensive as the wafers go bad quite quickly
ashen spindle
doesnt matter how much they bin, that doesn't allow them to produce more chips since they are still limited from waver throughput, binning is after that
reef tundra
you can spontaniously get more candidates when you lower the binning threshold
and semiconductors are notoriously hard to produce and impossible to produce perfectly
ashen spindle
it can further increase it yes, but if you get x wavers a month that means y chips per month, you cant increase that regardless how loose you bin them
reef tundra
yes, because they had to shutdown temporairly. Pretty hard to do much of anything then
Then it takes a while before they run at norminal throughput again
and you have to deal with other semiconducter manufacurers for the waifers
ashen spindle
but at most they started producing the chips last month, maybe 2 months ago, they were running at 100% again at that time
reef tundra
That would not be enough to meet demand
ashen spindle
thats why sales are limited lul
reef tundra
As they have to first cross the storage minimum and launch capacity minimum before they will/want delay the launch or try for an artificially slowed demand
ashen spindle
thats why its a staggered launch
ashen spindle
tbh that should always be the case
reef tundra
as shipping is slow when on boat and expensive to fly
ashen spindle
I dont mind being unable to preorder anything that cant be reviewed yet
reef tundra
pre-ordering is consumerism at its best
selling products that dont even exist yet
if people just let the reviewers inspect them and wait untill it is proven to be worth the cost and how much they lied in advertising people would get much less times disappointed
Especially for games as steam can sell as many copies as you could ever affort even after you inhereted the worlds money
ashen spindle
idk, I dont see the issue with games on steam
refunding a game in 2 hours is so easy
I see 0 difference between pre-ordering a game or buying it on launch
and you cant tell me it makes sense for every game to wait for reviews if its stable etc.
reef tundra
yea if you have high-speed internet
ashen spindle
gl not getting spoiled or so
with pre loading being an option you dont even need that
reef tundra
and didnot have to wait for hous to download
it will be sour to realise that you bought some shitty imcomplete game then
ashen spindle
yea so you pre-order, limit download speed and pre-load it, so if its shit you refund and lost nothing
reef tundra
And there is the sunk cost fallacy as people think maybe it gets better as it progresses not realising how much remaining of the 2 hours they got
ashen spindle
¯_(ツ)_/¯ I mean thats just people not taking care about it, can't really help there
pale sigil
Got an Amazon Alexa for 99p
ashen spindle
wow, you pay for spyware?
reef tundra
Alexa has been cancelled 🦀
pale sigil
Yes
reef tundra
Seriously?
pale sigil
reef tundra
Seems to be a please just take it price
ashen spindle
you'd have to pay me to get that into my house, and at least as much as its costs to get one of these covers that constantly yell noise at it
reef tundra
as destroying or storing them would cost more
reef tundra
new generation or something?
pale sigil
Nope
reef tundra
price fuckery
pale sigil
You get an Echo dot with amazon prime music right now for 10 quid
retaliation tospotify
however you can cancel the sub and get refund
reef tundra
fuck spotify
reef tundra
with their shitty ads
pale sigil
Imagine having Ads
reef tundra
which specifically makes me hate them even more
i have a script to shutdown and restart when ads appear
pale sigil
ugh
wheat plume
O.o
pale sigil
you can just block them...
reef tundra
not with free
wheat plume
I used my hosts file to block ads on spotify for ages
reef tundra
They use different ip for ads?
pale sigil
pale sigil
No
It doesn't
Spotify blocked that
If you block their ads via hosts you lose a lot of access
wheat plume
i did it for ages and it worked fine
wheat plume
o
pale sigil
they basically shadow banned people doing it
reef tundra
ohh it uses the computer for the ad detect and murder functions and having it on the pc will also allow for choosing the songs (no forced shuffle) and infinite skipping.
reef tundra
and just stream the audio to the app
pale sigil
kinda annoying first time setup tho
reef tundra
thought of something myself
as i realised that the pc version was pretty much the premium functionality with ads
which can be blocked on many levels
reef tundra
from router to ai screen capture software
reef tundra
Also why are they pushing users so hard on their own ads?
pale sigil
Spotify is awesome.
reef tundra
Learn that I dont care for your premium at all and even I AM NOT THE PERSON YOU WANT TO SELL PREMIUM TO
reef tundra
ads make money no matter how much i lisen but premium is fixed
and licencing is per stream
pale sigil
I love Spotify, really do
reef tundra
for at least 30 seconds or somewhere about
pale sigil
But this is coming from someone who gets premium a lot and doesn't really pay for it.
Im constantly using 3-6 month trials on new accounts
wheat plume
LOL
ashen spindle
@old marlin any infos about titanwolf for mousepads? looks like a very small german company that nobody knows of yet?
old marlin
OEM shit
reef tundra
According to this blog
Spotify paid the artists $0,0032 per stream
Apple Music got the average rate of $0,0056
Google Play Music landed a $0,0055 payout rate
Deezer fell slightly lower at $0.00436
So if I would stream songs for 8 hours per day they would have to pay 0.512 cent per day when average song duration is at least ~30 seconds and average duration being 3 minutes. This would mean they would pay 15.36 per month for licencing per month which is already less then the premium licence. The most costly would be a script which would replay/skip to next song every 30 seconds for the entire month nonstop. ends up to 1202430*0,0032=276.48 in licencing fees which is quite a lot less than they could every earn from the premium fee in a year but the licencing is for just 30 days and every 30 days would cost them 276,48 dollars to pay to licence holders. This is asuming servers, broadband and other expenses are not considered
https://soundcharts.com/blog/music-streaming-rates-payouts
ohh, they push for it because most people wont listen to music too much and is thus more profitable
but still why push that hard on users that are unlikely to even buy it and are streaming it a lot
reef tundra
I rarely have a non spotify ad thus they earn nothing from that ad if ineffective at getting the user to buy premium. And some users just stream too much to be profitable to even have as subscriber. They are really hoping the Amazon way is going to work out for them. Also they really love to push away the core users and pull the people that dont care about the platform and would just jump ship if some other service was cheaper or better functionally.
fair gull
wheat plume
why is the USA edition more than double the price?
pale sigil
@wheat plume Maybe it has some oil in it
wheat plume
@wheat plume Maybe it has some oil in it
@pale sigil LOL MAYBE
That's the price you pay for having it built there..
@crimson wigeon
crimson wigeon
"The Librem 5 USA has the same features and look of the Librem 5 on the outside, but all the electronics will be made in our USA facility, and the entire phone will be Assembled in the USA, using the same supplier we used for the Librem 5 devkits in 2018 and Librem Key in 2019."
"The Librem 5 USA has the same features and look of the Librem 5 on the outside, but all the electronics will be made in our USA facility, and the entire phone will be Assembled in the USA, using the same supplier we used for the Librem 5 devkits in 2018 and Librem Key in 2019."
wheat plume
ahh...
but still..its more money than they Librem 5 + 30 inch monitor bundle
single channel memory ;-;
pale sigil
interesting
ashen spindle
how do I check why my linux server is suddenly so slow
wheat plume
on the product page it says version 1
but idk if there are newer versions or not
how do I check why my linux server is suddenly so slow
@ashen spindle no idea.... htop?
ashen spindle
teamspeak was lagging so I wanted to reboot the server, but the SSH connection is quite laggy
wheat plume
hm
ashen spindle
stats for cpu/IO usage look fine on the control panel
you hosted it on windows server?
hrm looks much better now, putty isnt as laggy anymore after restart but still lags from time to time
pale sigil
Like ugh
Manyyy years ago
last i hosted was 2012 i think
I miss having my SSH console and SFTP manager on one client.
ashen spindle
highest process is using 0.3% cpu
but my ping variance on TS is still higher than usual while I dont sound laggy on discord
hrmmm
meh, time to annow our server guy at work tomorrow :p
reef tundra
For general process and resource usage I like running ytop. Has enough for a general system monitor and maneger bpytop does a lot more but is based on python and needs more to run so ewwww python
Teamspeak is obsolete lol
add them(even for the virtual screens) to your xserver to graphically interact with them (and as the logged in user) using ssh with the -X
ashen spindle
idk cant host my own discord servers so I'm still using ts3 till then
doesnt really cost me anything
reef tundra
oh was thinking of teamviewer
lol
discord is bloat due to the electron bullshit
basically just an browser acting as an application
But everybody uses it and discord aint that keen for alternative ui's
wheat plume
Razer, you fucked up your product document :')
This is the pdf for the Nommo Chroma SPEAKERS
not a mouse
reef tundra
Razer cries because you did not use the special mousemat because it may damage the replaceble almost free rubber and the sensor has been 'tuned' OR optimized especially for the special mouse mat. (= we made it intentionally worse on other mousemats so we can make more money from you). Meanwhile logitech marketing: it works on glass
wheat plume
I dont have a razer mouse xd
Nomma Chroma are speakers :')
But maybe I need to put them on a razer mouse pad for them to work better according to this document
reef tundra
Yes but it has a mouse sensor that has been 'tuned'
wheat plume
:') apparently
reef tundra
could be that it has been calibrated or settings tuned for best performance or they turned some potentiometer to make the led not have the brightness like on a laser cutter
wheat plume
I love the package name for the african version of libreofficew fresh is libreoffice-fresh-af
fresh AF Bruh
reef tundra
Afrikaans
wheat plume
yehh
reef tundra
Dit is epies, maar nie so epies soos my neovim om dokumente te wysig nie. haha getroll! het jou geflous! Dokumente is BLOAT !!! GROFF, MOM of 'n ander meme kan my pdfs doen as die baas op die aandeelhouersvergadering koel wil lyk.
Shitposting in another language
wheat plume
the AUR has a lower version of MC launcher than the normal repo?? wat
oh wait, I have beta package
reef tundra
Aur can be anything you want it to be. * Prepares for the anime wallpaper packs *
reef tundra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL62p9A1Bzk Wrong search term bud
wheat plume
this makes me happy <3
usually the AUR packages arent maintained by the actual devs of the software
but minecraf is
reef tundra
the upstream links to minecraft.net
wheat plume
yeh
reef tundra
so pretty epic
wheat plume
look at the email address, its literally a mojang employee
reef tundra
and works perfectly
wheat plume
Petr, idk you...but thanks <3
reef tundra
ah, the pains of open source protocols. It just works too well. makes me cry
wheat plume
KEK
reef tundra
Need more directx12 so great windows 10 struggles
reef tundra
Dont need it
ashen spindle
reef tundra
vulkan is here
wheat plume
I do like Vulkan
reef tundra
Steam Proton uses vulkan as backend
wheat plume
I know....takes like 10 minutes to compile shaders when I press start to run GTA V xd
I dont want to skip cause thatll cause lag spikes
reef tundra
It pre-cashes the textures and shaders before hand for smoother performance
reef tundra
Metro exodus has that for me, aside the no sound thing or my mouse leaves the monitor
but it is buggy af on windows as well
Really weird ones too
wheat plume
You might have to change some shit to get sound, I know that Nick had that issue when trying to run Sleeping Dogs
but he solvedit
reef tundra
Clear signs of rushing the dev team and littterly unable to so skipping testing will do
It was unable to even handle keyboards correctly
wheat plume
sounds like thje port to windows of Nier Automata
my friend plays it and he needs mods just to get it fullscreen
ashen spindle
sounds like he didnt find the fullscreen option in the game
wheat plume
he did
ashen spindle
im fairly certain I did not install any mods for that game
ashen spindle
laptop
reef tundra
kSome were: keys not able to be held and just toggle, the utility menu was sometimes just on screen and if you press the button it becomes unpressed again. Sometimes it worked to go to the menu, sometimes alt tabbing worked, sometimes it wont work. It wont register held commands and as such the charger and pneumatic gun became unusable. sometimes spamming worked tho.
wheat plume
oo
reef tundra
Also in the beginning section when in the train, dont shovel too much coal or the game crashes
gas mask was also on a held button so sometimes that would not be a possebility
so you would just die
It had something to do with it missing the interrupt or something odd
out of sync?
Also the saved file got corrupted
advice is to not use the steam cloud saves
good work
calm sparrow
Alright so something's up since my pc wont boot (it turns on but my monitor seems disconnected from it) so ive been troubleshooting.
Any tips as for what I should be looking for
reef tundra
It doesnt give any errors?
calm sparrow
Well it's more the fact that the monitor says no signal and the fact that I saw a few things I found disconcerting
reef tundra
Text or ?
calm sparrow
Inside the case
I am probably going to look like an idiot after this but either way better safe than sorry
raw steeple
faulty display cable?
reef tundra
What cpu do you have and how do you connect the monitor?
raw steeple
maybe reset your monitor in the osd
calm sparrow
I use a ryzen 5 2600
raw steeple
make sure it's set to the right display connector
calm sparrow
And I connected my monitor through an hdmi cable
raw steeple
try a displayport
reef tundra
Do you use the ports on the motherboard or graphics card
raw steeple
see if that works lol
calm sparrow
I tried both
reef tundra
the motherboard would most likely not work dueto having no graphics driver in the cpu thus gpu is required for image
calm sparrow
Yeah I have the installation media
reef tundra
Do you have other hardware that can be used to test if the cable works?
raw steeple
always amuses me when gpu companies ask for rmas, do you have another gpu you can try?
like we all have lol
calm sparrow
another thing that hit me the wrong way was that only the led on the left turned on which made me think about my front panel connectors
this is my first build
I have nothing else to use really
here is a photo of the front panel port and how i plugged it in
reef tundra
motherboard?
raw steeple
its hard to tell from that image, just make sure it follows the diagram set out in the mobo manual
calm sparrow
Asus rog b450-f atx motherboard
reef patrol
reef tundra
The CPU is compatable with the chipset..
reef patrol
scrolls up
So no image. Is the graphics card plugged in and powered?
Are BOTH of the motherboard power cables plugged in? The big 24pin one and the 4+4 one near the CPU?
calm sparrow
Correct
reef tundra
Bios would cry otherwise