idk
#🔌│tech
ashen spindle
imo it will mostly help as in you wont need as good as an optimization as those games or sekiro/dark souls etc. have more, which should get devs more time to work on other parts
fickle ore
I dont think optimization has anything to do with loading times from storage. Could even see that new console tech coming to W10 in next big update who knows
ashen spindle
of it has to do with optimization, loading parts when you can without dropping fps so the next areas are ready etc.
fickle ore
to VRAM?
ashen spindle
vram or ram, depending on what it is
fickle ore
Maybe when most people have more than 2GB VRAM (like me) 😄
ashen spindle
thats another part why the console nvme thing won't be as important as on pc, if you have 64gb of ram on pc, you can just load everything into it and dont need to fetch form the disk
fickle ore
That's true
I once ran a MMORPG from ramdisk, damn it felt nice
Will do that def again with Pantheon
ashen spindle
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgygwnCDuiDi9FRmVYJ4AaABCQ regarding the "first gen vs then offers of intel"
so even there it looks like "smoother" only happend when you were multitasking heavily
pale sigil
My keyboard is fine, nice and clean again
foggy solstice
And so, the cycle begins anew.
ashen spindle
holy shit, intel gpu might not end up beeing useless
because they are not making it inhouse so it wont be on a broken process 
crimson wigeon
old marlin
also intel still has to do drivers
ashen spindle
how do you expect performance numbers if this is the first time they even mention XeHPG
old marlin
ye
if we had a node count or whatever
then we could guess
lol
with that thing they demoied in an ultrabook
ashen spindle
I dont expect them to be top even with perfect drivers, but at least competition to lower prices etc
old marlin
at below 1050 perf
ashen spindle
cant really compare bc that one is made on internal 10nm
old marlin
yea
ashen spindle
reading through all this intel architecture day stuff is difficult
I wish I could just believe what intel says word for word, but with all the 10/7 nm issues there is bound to be so much marketing
inside the tech terms
ashen spindle
yeah but I just want to read and read it as information, not having to think ig its bs or not before memorizing it lol
vagrant marsh
intel gpu's when
still no release dates, no leaks, no performance numbers, no leaks, nothing
either intel has got a good kept secret, or they are full of monkey ballony.
"with hardware dedicated raytracing"
gimme a break here
thats nothing new to be proud of. that should be a standard
ashen spindle
2021
again, how do you expect numbers, either leaks or offical if the product just isn't that far yet lol
like this isn't even at engineering sample stage
vagrant marsh
i thought they were, since the last time i checked up on rumors on intel gpu's, i thought they said mid range cards would arrive end of the year
ashen spindle
thats for LP iirc
vagrant marsh
lp?
vagrant marsh
ofcourse they couldnt make it simpler 🤤
ashen spindle
lp is basically iGPU
HPC is for datacenter, so like volta/tesla/arcturus etc.
HPG was revealed today for mid/high end gaming
also the nvidia twitter now counts up end will end up at 21 on ampere release day, so either they are trolling more or it will be 21 series
ashen spindle
yes
vagrant marsh
isnt that what htey did with the 1600 and 2000 things? cause people leaked about the 1100, so nvidia wanted to mess with the media.
could be same here. 2100 instead of 3000
ashen spindle
negativ, people expected 11 series but the leaks showed 20 series
vagrant marsh
well, i hope they keep it all in 1 line this time. i understand they wanted to show off this raytracing thing and gave it the 2000 designation, but it messed up the order a bit
ashen spindle
nah sometimes you need to change it up
either for marketing to signify a bigger change, or to get back to smaller numbers etc.
also intel did mention they rewrote their dx11 drivers from scratch @old marlin
god I hate vimeo
I want to watch the intel architecture day
but it has no speedup option
cba watching it at normal speed and not 2x
reef patrol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V3VCt24tkE
Rip Goldeneye telescope. 😦
ashen spindle
D:
pale sigil
old man locke
ashen spindle
fair gull
idk i dont like the whole "sata only of mb" shit
fair gull
and power extra drives wont be easily doable
outside of a pc
rn i can use literally any old used psu
and power any sata/molex shit
old marlin
well yea
but going full 12v is just a lot more efficient
there is no real reason not to do it
as well as cheaper to make
reef patrol
Can't wait to see them in use in... 10 years?
We're going to see hybrid PSUs before this.
old marlin
well they have to introduce them at some point
old marlin
yea that is shit
reef patrol
The weird SATA/Molex cables are going to break end users so hard
old marlin
but manufacturers have to make a cut at some point
reef patrol
You change your shit if you change the electrics.
old marlin
yea fully agree
reef patrol
It's such a fucking frankenstein solution. FOUR cables into the motherboard instead of two.
fair gull
also feel like some sff aio already did this
old marlin
yea a lot of lenovos and hps do similar stuff
fair gull
they have a 16(?) pin mb and cpu 4pin
old marlin
some dells as well iirc
fair gull
and i hate all of them
fair gull
no but why make special shit
old marlin
when it is basically just better for the consumer
fair gull
that requires me to buy a special psu
old marlin
well since it will hopefully replace the ATX stadnard of PSUs at some point
fair gull
new doesnt equal bad
old marlin
well seemingly it does
fair gull
thats what u interpret into this
old marlin
well you only complain
and seemingly ignore that it is a direct improvement for end users
if it gets fully implemented
but you will "hate your job"
fair gull
ya cause its not you who has to change these fucks on all customer and business pcs in ur area
or well in my case my area
old marlin
they won't switch every PC because there is a new PSU standard
fair gull
u see
i have seen stuff
like
forcing sata connectors into ide connectors
i
can really imagine
old marlin
lol
fair gull
ya no
then id just do cash registers
130€ for an sd card with a 3year lifetime
and thats just the sd card
not the price of firmware updates and reprogramming them
pcs dont earn shit
the only thing that does make some money is virus/adware removal and new pc builds
the whole IT service industry is sadly easily beat out by the internet
fair gull
well these are 130€ 8gb
old marlin
only special thing is a proprietary formatting
old marlin
not like a 8mb or 8gb one will make a huge difference when buying
fair gull
so that the government can spy better on any customer
old marlin
lol
fair gull
literally
has a qr code
so that they can theoretically check if the receipt is accurate
so what i imagine is some closet furry has been found out and now they wanna uncover them all
why does a cash register have to be this secure
btw fun fact
i can buy new chips till next month cause the manufacturers cant keep up
so some customers might actually end up not getting it in time (deadline is 30.9 and im just a human and cant convert 100s of registers a day)
old marlin
lol
reef patrol
Yup. Apple yeeted it.
old marlin
fair gull
i think epic doesnt get what in app purchaes are limited to not use own mechanisms
like im sure the whole in-app purchases only through apple thing is for digital stuff only
so
if epic vbucks would be actual paper fiat money it would be smth different
literally everything epic brought up as argument for "they are allowed so we should be too" are apps that sell physical goods to you
vagrant marsh
fortnite got removed from the apple store?
fair gull
yes
vagrant marsh
so the war has started
fair gull
Today, Epic Games took the unfortunate step of violating the App Store guidelines that are applied equally to every developer and designed to keep the store safe for our users. As a result their Fortnite app has been removed from the store. Epic enabled a feature in its app which was not reviewed or approved by Apple, and they did so with the express intent of violating the App Store guidelines regarding in-app payments that apply to every developer who sells digital goods or services.
Epic has had apps on the App Store for a decade, and have benefited from the App Store ecosystem - including it’s tools, testing, and distribution that Apple provides to all developers. Epic agreed to the App Store terms and guidelines freely and we’re glad they’ve built such a successful business on the App Store. The fact that their business interests now lead them to push for a special arrangement does not change the fact that these guidelines create a level playing field for all developers and make the store safe for all users. We will make every effort to work with Epic to resolve these violations so they can return Fortnite to the App Store.
i dont really see a war tbh
reef patrol
I'm sure Epic and everyone else involved in the ongoing Apple antitrust feel different.
fair gull
idk man like i said in this case from what i read in the tos digital purchases for inapp content or apps themselves have to be done through apples payment shit
which naturally excludes stuff like amazon, mcdonalds, nike, lyft, uber
etc
chrome estuary
Good, fortnite is being removed from more and more places
reef patrol
vagrant marsh
yea, but from what ive seen, you dont mess with epic. somehow they are able to fund their entire existance.
foggy solstice
Now I wonder how many iPhone Fortnite YouTubers there are. I'm pretty sure it's bigger than 1.
Well, it's 0 now, but it probably used to be more than that, I reckon.
fair gull
so if im able to fund my own existence no one can fuck with me
foggy solstice
That's basically how being adult supposedly works.
fair gull
so then
i can also break any law without anyone fucking with me?
can i break contracts and act like the victim?
foggy solstice
If you have enough money, of course. Jeff Bezos is doing that on an hourly basis.
fair gull
good to know
foggy solstice
Committing crimes against humanity, even when he sleeps.
vagrant marsh
thats how alot of bad people stay out of trouble. look at alot of famous people. they should go into jail, but are mostly laid off by paying a small fine, then donating some cash to a good cause or doing some community service.
vagrant marsh
lol. they want to use the sherman act
an act of 1890, when such huge companies were limited to military suppliers.
but it does prove that epic is going all out. ofcourse, this will probably all take 5 years before someone wins, which by then fortnite probably has outgrown its popularity and its no longer viable, atleast, thats the strategy as an apple suit i would make. to stall it as long as possible.
pale sigil
this is fun
ashen spindle
this aint taking 5 years bc apple is already getting sued and all
like they are beeing investigated for anti trust violations in the app store, tis is just making it worse for them
reef patrol
Oh god. They made a video xD
crimson wigeon
I don't really see the problem, Apple's device, Apples rules
pale sigil
Monopoly innit
reef patrol
I don't really see the problem, Apple's device, Apples rules
@crimson wigeon Enter antitrust and consumer rights. Anti-monopoly.
empty wren
i gotta wonder if ulefone is barring commands behind a code
or if the bootloader has limited commands
crimson wigeon
Sure but I still don't see a problem, no one's forcing anyone to buy Apple devices
So, when are they gonna force the gaming consoles open like this then?
pale sigil
well
i mean
thats the thing
they created a monopoly
people wont just suddenly stop buying it
like
they have so much control that its nearly impossible to have it dismantled
vagrant marsh
free fortnite?
also, android is not the same, for those wondering. android is freeware. everyone can use android. everyone is free to install the google app store. you dont have to use it.
but still, they didnt made this animation on a whim. they planned for this
epic is planning apple's downfall
reef patrol
Android is Free...with a catch.
You're forced all of their apps - Which has been an issue
plush summit
I would like root access to my phone from day one
reef tundra
Just because you are "choosing" doing something does not mean it has been done out of freewill but under coersion (treats, loss of life, etc).
pale sigil
Just dont get shitty phones
plush summit
I didn't get a shity phone and I still don't have the ability to get root access
vagrant marsh
yea. when i got my pocophone, ive read the reviews. lots and lots of bloatware. so what? took me 10 minutes to go through every app, turn off hte option that allowed for in-app advertisements, and behold, i got a phone with great specs for a cheap as hell price. that was my choice.
crimson wigeon
Eh if you can't easily put your own OS and whatnot on your phone then it's shitty IMO
plush summit
greate
i have an s9
its by no means a bad phone
i dont know what other phones out that allow for full controll
so please
educate me
crimson wigeon
Hmmm I thought those could be unlocked with relative ease, oh wait locked down NA version ecks deee
plush summit
there is no root method
and i didnt have much of a choice
]in order for me to use it with our towers
i had to get an NA version
crimson wigeon
Yeah, and that's shitty
plush summit
if i had a choice i would have gotten a phone that was actualy good.....
for me thogh, the s9 had everything i wanted. headphone jack, sd card, decent battery.....and thats about all i needed
now if only there was a phone that was easy to change parts in
and allowed for full user control
ashen spindle
crimson wigeon
Nice, sue Google as well now
ashen spindle
imagine if everything on windows needs to send payment through app store, everyone would outrage
this is basically the same
pale sigil
xD
crimson wigeon
Well that almost happened, but users and developers hated it...
plush summit
Does anyone have any documentation on flashing a kernel custom ROM or custom recovery. I want to understand how it works and what it's doing
reef tundra
may prove usefull if you want to learn about android from kernel to application layer. https://source.android.com/
https://source.android.com/devices/bootloader/flashing-updating
about the flashing procedure
zenith sonnet
Simple solution:
Force Apple to allow other app-stores on iOS. May the best store win.
plush summit
what
reef tundra
Genereral rule for data is as long as there is no external backup then the data does not exist. Also dont backup to the same storage medium, preferably make two backups.
vagrant marsh
Dear Diary. Today i found out that i can control my mobile airconditioner with my tv remote.
i knew i bought the cheapest one cause it seriously doesnt matter what airconditioner you choose cause they all use the same amount of power and deliver the same amount of cooling, but come on XD being so cheap you work on the same frequency as tv remotes
halcyon moss
among airconditioner type maybe, but there is a wide efficiency difference in types
vagrant marsh
sure. 2 part airco's. window airco's. but i dont think in europe there are alot of windows that can accommodate window airco's
atleast, where im from we use alot of casement windows
i think hung windows are more american style
reef patrol
So apparently Sony pulled another "Cell". Devs are complaining that their weird NVME caching system is causing too much work to deal with, and 4K might just be faked for several titles as a result.
crimson wigeon
Why would the way storage works make the resolution faked?
reef patrol
Because it's no storage. It's caching.
ashen spindle
faking 4k is nothing new esp on consoles though
and the biggest part of ps5's storage was speed to load assets, not to have that be a cause for increased resolution
reef patrol
Just quoting the article.
crimson wigeon
Yeah I fully expect a lot of games to use fancy upscaling, especially when some claim that magic like DLSS 2.0 can look better than native, somehow
reef patrol
*The reports are in, and 3rd party developers allegedly finding it difficult to develop games for that the PlayStation 5's hardware can handle. According to some recent rumors, third-party game developers are struggling to develop their titles for multiple platforms due to the PS5's lackluster GPU/CPU. This could lead to early PS5 titles being released without true 4K capabilities.
Looking at the Xbox Series X and the PlayStation 5's specifications side by side reveals Xbox to be the more powerful console. While both are aiming for a standard 4K resolution, at 60 fps, Xbox's specs make it easier to get there. In terms of GPU and CPU, the Xbox Series X outpowers the PS5. Not by a large margin, but it is enough to take into account. However, the hard numbers are not the issue that third-party developers are facing, it is the new AMD SmartShift technology integrated in the PS5.*
crimson wigeon
Oh lackluster GPU/CPU, not caching
reef patrol
So it's the GPU/CPU. Whoever quoted that article on Twitter definitely didn't read the article first. My bad xD
crimson wigeon
Twitter in a nutshell
reef patrol
Social Media in a nutshell rather 😛
ashen spindle
article only makes it worse tbh, because the xbox series s is even weaker and devs will optimize for that
ashen spindle
fuck I should've thought about this
crimson wigeon
It's the new Flappy Bird!
shadow minnow
ashen spindle
.. you dont even need to scroll up to see thats old news, that screen itself shows its from 8h ago
ashen spindle
I mean, given I posted it before I went to sleept.. lul
wheat plume
vagrant marsh
my dad bought a usb thingy through wish. it can hold a micro sd card, it has a usb 2.0 female, a usb 3 male and a usb 2.0 male, with a micro usb in it that can be extended
however, my dad thought it was a usb stick. but this is a usb adapter of sorts.
old marlin
that is what you get for shorting USB stick or thumbdrive to "USB"
vagrant marsh
no, he simply didnt read the ad on Wish right, cause we looked it up, and nowhere was there any mentioning of drive space.
he was just mindblown about all the features and then thought to remember it had 40gb of space
not sure where he pulled that number from tho
wheat plume
through wish
DONT USE WISH PEOPLE...FFS
old marlin
lol
vagrant marsh
thats what i told my dad. everything there is a scam. dude bought a huge powerbank. that is powered through micro usb...every 2 minutes the thing crashes and has to go through a small cycle to continue charging. it took over 4 days to charge the thing.
wheat plume
O.o
old marlin
just buy from aliexpress lol
doesn't mouthfeed you products like wish does
but much less of a scam
due to it having actual customer support etc
vagrant marsh
and thats not even the first case. in kitchen appliances and stuff, he always buys the stuff that looks nice, but is probably the worst he could have bought. so i made my dad agree that whenever he is gonna buy something, anything, may it be a bike, a fridge, hell, even a usb stick, that he lets me advice him on it.
old marlin
vagrant marsh
seriously, i keep reminding him that old people like him is what make these scammers rich, but he is just so goddarn stubborn
ashen spindle
"Micron has confirmed that it has been developing GDDR6X memory in collaboration with NVIDIA for its next-generation Ampere graphics cards"
interresting, memory spec without jedec speccing it
zenith sonnet
ashen spindle
https://twitter.com/reckless/status/1294242426002051076 so I guess epic are pretty confident in this deal
Twitter
reef patrol
They are better at memes than Apple for sure xD
ashen spindle
the strategy is a bit weird imo
going after apple with the apple-used 1984 memes is amazing, but the fortnire players probably dont get it
even if they should, dont think that book is still shown in schools as much
reef patrol
I think it is on purpose - People will go "What is this?" and try and find out. And before you know it the wikipedia page for 1984 is overloaded.
ashen spindle
maybe, I just hope they dont overesitimate the brain of the average fortnite-er on mobile
zenith sonnet
Well, I said it before, simple solution:
Force Apple and Google to make space for different app stores on their platforms
Well, technically you already got some of that on Android
In some ways
reef patrol
pale sigil
Please don’t ever show me that again
ashen spindle
reef patrol
zenith sonnet
Then again:
iOS isn't the only available platform for cell phones. You don't have to use it, there is competition.
reef patrol
Here's the thing though. You essentially have two choices. Apple or Android.
If you look at market shares - And that's a monopoly.
ashen spindle
ffs I had a monopoly man dab gif at some point, cant find it anymore
reef tundra
blackmarket apk for sale
reef patrol
And since everyone enjoys locking phones... no alternative app store possible.
reef tundra
In the end it only hurts the market
ashen spindle
micron also revealed the hbm2e successor, hmbnext
wonder if that one is also not jedec spec but micron only 🤔
nvm hbmnext has jedec specs
zenith sonnet
There are alternatives. You can also use some Linux distros. And feature phones are also alternatives to smart phones.
ashen spindle
so we've now had big stuff from intel, nvidia, even more from both soon, memory stuff, when will we see new amd stuff 
zenith sonnet
AMD needs to hold their hand until both intel and Nvidia played their cards
crimson wigeon
I bet not soon after Nvidia event so they can once again go cheaper (after "leaking" a higher price, of course)
zenith sonnet
That's the only way they can have better offerings without making a fool of themselves like last time
misty pier
man the hardware industry is really heating up
ashen spindle
lol you still believe that 4d chess price bullshit?
crimson wigeon
I believe in the memes
misty pier
same
pale sigil
speaking of shit things
they took over my entire screen on bootup to introduce the new edge
and then reset my default browser
👏
wheat plume
Windows 10, the most invasive shit
crimson wigeon
Can't say I've had that happen, but yeah if you install something new that can handle a specific filetype and then you double click a file of that type that thing pops up yeah
ashen spindle
2004 does that apparently yes
misty pier
I should use manjaro more 🤔
wheat plume
ArcoLinuxB > Manjaro
crimson wigeon
Meanwhile I'm an insider and still only have legacy Edge 😄
crimson wigeon
I never installed it and it hasn't been shoved down the update pipe for me
reef tundra
Mine just corrupts the windows bootloader on update
reef tundra
It looks like a warcrime
wheat plume
:')
crimson wigeon
That's why you install a branding package that changes it
misty pier
FEET
reef tundra
With AUR no package is unfindable
wheat plume
I hate feet xd
I love how there is a 100% legit serious company out there called Trolltech
ashen spindle
wonder if the new memory will prevent ampere from drawing too much power, just saw pJp seems to be lower by a bit, close to hbm
seems to be 15% less power at 50% more bandwith
meanwhile, at intel
Twitter
ashen spindle
yup its official now
doubt it
if only for the power savings
since they went with 10nm samsung and not tsmc
(ignoring low end maybe)
24gb probably even
reef patrol
So they're already doing S models...jesus
ashen spindle
what?
reef patrol
Look at the 2070s
ashen spindle
yes thats from that site as what it is replacing
reef patrol
Look closer.
reef patrol
If that paper is true they're releasing two 80s and two 70s with different VRAM amounts.
That's an AMD thing.
And I imagine they won't have the same number of cores and such either.
ashen spindle
imo its just to have an offer that has more vram than amd will have
pale sigil
tbf
ashen spindle
since that is supposed to top out at 16gb
pale sigil
dlss 2 is godly
ashen spindle
also nvidia has been doing multiple memory things for the same number in the past
sure not with the 20 series on release, the 10 series that the stupid refresh with more memory, 7xx had different skus on release iirc
zenith sonnet
That's just to confuse leaks
ashen spindle
32 of hbm
either way this gives me more hope than I had before when it was certain they have to go with SS for the chip
prob still not as good if they would've waited till 1h'21 for tsmc but maybe worth the tradeoff now
misty pier
holy vram bump
old marlin
@reef patrol remember the 1060?
ashen spindle
that came in 3 and 6 gb on launch right? I knew there was one of those in the 10 series
ashen spindle
yeah I still dont understand why nvidia thought that was a smart move
like was vram that hard to get at the time?
because they also were much faster in paying back money than lets say amd with the "not a full core"t hing lmao
nothing that helps sadly
also he really didny attack nvidia in any way lol
reef patrol
I feel for you.
shadow minnow
I am currently using MacBook with sth like rx 480, not 100% sure 
old marlin
Ye the pro 480
ashen spindle
actual ddr3 on a gpu, classic nvidia
lofty lintel
my keyboard switches arive but the chassis will arive someday around octobre. :(((
and i also bought gmk keycaps for 180 euros
i think i have a problem
urban lynx
while skimming the messages i read "750ti" ?
yes?
I'm currently sitting (and using) on one...
please tell me all there is about why i should get an upgrade sooner than later 
ashen spindle
it was just that there are 3 version of it with different memory sizes
old marlin
and types
ashen spindle
and I mean, if you want to play something that only runs on dx12, I think your card would not work :p
shadow minnow
ashen spindle
ok, any games that use dx12 and a dx12 exclusive feature
its compatible but not complient with dx12
and rdr2 being a console part makes it a bit unlikely to have any dx12 exclusive features :p
urban lynx
dont be mistaken, I'm not using it because i want to
it's just what i had
as in, an upgrade from some hd gpu from amd i had before
ashen spindle
september 1st new gpus get announced
urban lynx
i know
reason i didnt get a new one, because I'm 99% gonna get one of the new gen gpu's
was initially considering getting a 2080ti, but then they already started doing the talks about next gen releases being likely in the second half of this year
funnily enough, since february/march i had it in my mind that it's gonna be released early september somehow
ashen spindle
well, same time as the 20 series 2 years ago
announcement at gamescom, release couple days/weeks after
misty pier
wonder if there are any skus leaked out early before launch
that's how i got my super card on day 1
ashen spindle
unlikely
super was only a refresh so it was more likely to happen there
but as they often decide stuff minutes before jensen announces it, that would be a bit pointless and could show who leaked it etc.
aside from maybe benchmarks if reviewers slip up I guess
misty pier
gotcha, I'm quite curious how the gpu cooler designs are like now
wonder if they've made more beefier coolers
ashen spindle
pretty much the same, founders edition might just have some more spice to it
misty pier
yeah hopefully FE looks interesting this time
ashen spindle
AiB should be able to launch around same time so idc about FE honestly
misty pier
that just sounds lovely
I wanted to get a 5700 XT at launch but AiB cards weren't really ready around the time
ashen spindle
amd stock coolers
misty pier
although I could've just bought some beefy aftermarket cooler and live life that way
muh warranty 😭
reef patrol
Hmm?
fair gull
first is 2080 super FE
second is evga 2080 super ultra smth
evga 2080 super ftw3 ultra*
reef patrol
Ah sorry. Wrong discord. Was wondering why anyone would be against an FE, given difficulty of finding GPU blocks. 
shadow minnow
ashen spindle
ye for watercooling it is often better to go fE
but then again you still sacrifice potentially better voltage for less heat
fair gull
but then again who even gives a shit
the only thing i care about is my card not dying after 2 weeks
reef patrol
Really curious to see how this whole daughterbosrd thing pans out with custom coolers.
ashen spindle
daughterboard?
reef patrol
People keep talking about how the new cards will have two PCBs
lofty lintel
dont ever talk to me or my sonboard again
ashen spindle
oh I think they mean the part above the pcie slot on the leaked picture
imo that looks like something for in the lab to test or so, not like something on the final design
but idk enough about that
shadow minnow
@reef patrol I mean, AiBs do not have to use two PCBs, and also, there was already leaked asus card that asus basically confirmed, and looked like a normal card with just one PCB (had 3 fan cooler on top)
reef patrol
Whatever nVidia uses is FE. So it's up to them what the norm is. Time will tell 😄
Not really in a rush to upgrade...no funds being a big part 😄
ashen spindle
if the card needs a second board the aib cant just not use that lol
that doesnt work
shadow minnow
@ashen spindle AiBs can make main pcb bigger, so everything that would have been placed on second pcb will be on main pcb.
ashen spindle
no...
shadow minnow
Why?
reef patrol
I mean... yes... but they'd likely need very long cases for that xD
ashen spindle
they are still limited by what fits in cases for one
another point is that if you make it long the circuit also gets bigger and you end up with distances that are probably too long to not lose signal integrity
fair gull
im in for twice as long gpus
ashen spindle
twice as long, twice as wide and twice as thicc please
crimson wigeon
take up all PCIE slots plz
reef patrol
ashen spindle
?even though we submitted it several days earlier
lul they 100% knew it wouldnt get checked in time, that shit takes much longer
ashen spindle
https://twitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1294365596285624322 lmao so I guess r/amd couldn't take it that gn says "amd is good, stop inflating it with misleading terms" and take it as an agenda against amd, this is the issue with amd fanboys
though I do hope they dont waste too much on trying to put sense into fanboys
old marlin
lol
misty saffron
i feel like most amd fanboys are below 14
ashen spindle
If only, would make it so much better but sadly they aren’t
zenith sonnet
From when is that marketing?
r/AMD is right though
Steve dug out something old and made a video about nothing, really
old marlin
Read the tweets below it?
ashen spindle
vagrant marsh
oof, finally. my pc gets the 2004 update
reef tundra
lmao that is 16 years ago
this gon be interresting
sinful dirge
@vagrant marsh easy fix downgrade to something that isn't a garbage update :D
reef tundra
future headlines: nvidia buys brains
shadow minnow
Nvidia buys moon
reef tundra
Dont know yet, time machine broke. But it looks like NVIDIA is willing the microcontrollers into its grip
But also cringe, Nvidia is wasting money effeciently without intention. Just get them from some supplier like mouser, digikey or something its much cheaper Nvidia shm. Cringe.
reef tundra
His master wise words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7pKjTfrETI
But he be doing it with hardware designers
reef tundra
If you buy all the product you save by having it and not having to spend money to get it
That is some galaxy brain thinks
Luckly I have none
ashen spindle
but with arm gone, the competition can flourish! https://twitter.com/chiakokhua/status/1291367391549517824
Twitter
reef tundra
But then the hydra appreared and showed all their heads and it is all open-source. And made arm irrelavent and not epic
his name? RISC-V
brah, it even has 128bit support
My counters will be unbeatable
ashen spindle
look you really need to stop posting random pictures where nobody will understand what we should look at
at least say what is so interresting about this
wheat plume
I didnt look here before, you can changfe power mode
that might be useful for some games I struggle to gert good FPS in
plush summit
so now im looking for a laptop that has
17 inch screen
atleast 2 tb storage
hdmi
absolute minimum of 3 usb 3.0 ports
ethernet jack
headphone out
full sized sd card reader
32 gb ram
discrete gpu (nothing worse than a 1050)
minimum of 8 cores
a usb c port
and preferable an rs232 port
and easy to upgrade parts
any one have any suggestions
thats what i thought
frozen anchor
yeah thats a lot of ports youre asking for
reef patrol
Lenovo Legion has a lot of ports. Not sure if they make 17" ones though.
No SD reader though...that's pm dead tech.
plush summit
that is a requirement for me
this is why i feel like the market is going to shit
i need a laptop that does its job as a portable computer
i want function over form
fuck this garbage industry
reef patrol
You need a laptop that is a multimedia machine, a gaming laptop AND a network IT professional toolbox at the same time.
It's not the market that's going to shit 😄
plush summit
....
thats not what i am looking for
i had a laptop with more ports than what i listed a while ago
and it was still a laptop
i need something with the functionality
crimson wigeon
Unfortunately in current year less ports is all the rage, hope you like adapters
reef patrol
You're still asking for things from three different market segments. You're lucky to get two of the three
plush summit
i hate dongles
i want to avoid them at all costs
there are some gpu accelerated workloads in network simulation
i need lots of ports to connect different devices and multiple devices at a time
i need a decent cpu to be able to run many tasks at once
old marlin
that basically kills it
and you have to go full on mobile workstation
idk what you mean with "easy to upgrade parts"
but you won't get more than ram, storage and network cards
at least nowadays
in rare cases cpu
plush summit
i can live without an rs232 port
old marlin
area 51m
plush summit
easy to upgrade parts
plush summit
ie ram, storage, battery...
ashen spindle
build a pc and put a batterypack in it, then add a handle
plush summit
thats not the point
plush summit
well...replacable battery
plush summit
no
becuase some of them are sealed shut
and some of them place the bettery in hard to reach areas
old marlin
haven't seen anything completely sealed shut
plush summit
im not looking for a desktop
i am looking for a sensibly designed laptop with lots of ports
it can be thicc
something like the mothership
but with more ports
i dont use it on my lap
i usualy always have it resting on something
but i dont want a full tower
old marlin
ok
filling out requirements
leads you to some weird gaming thingies
workstatiosn twice as expensive
and that is it
aka area 51m r2
whatever tf these are
the m17 has micro sd lol
xps is dongle life by now
thank apple for that
pale sigil
no?
pale sigil
doesn't on windows
wheat plume
hmm....
wheat plume
OO
pale sigil
and fbook
wheat plume
nvm
it doesnt
I didnt fully kill all its processes
wait
it works if I give it optifine.net
but doesnt block www.optifine.net
🤔
ashen spindle
normal
wheat plume
oh ;-;
then how do I knoiw if I need the www or not?
other than testing each one like this
ashen spindle
wait why do you want to put optifine into the host file
seems like a site you want to visit?
pale sigil
use more gpu damn it
ashen spindle
cmon you know thats not how it works
frozen anchor
hmm ive been using shadowplay to record highlights but now it refuses to record my main monitor
cant find any way to change what it records
even unplugging my second monitor it still tries to record my 2nd monitor
wheat plume
zenith sonnet
Looks like a lamp in a box
old marlin
ashen spindle
hrmmm no so whe get rumours nvidia might use the samsung 7nm/5nm node for ampere? man this is getting confusing
it contradicst other sources from leaks that have a close ot 100% track record but it also makes sense hmmm
zenith sonnet
How does 3x8pin power on the 3090 make sense, then?
ashen spindle
would explain the statement of tsmc getting majority of 7nm orders and quadros still being power efficent
also more likely than having a backport to 8nm since 7 and 8 on SS are not compatible designs
both options seem realistic
zenith sonnet
I doubt Nvidia is jumping on a bleeding edge node
ashen spindle
oh, about the oneplus thing, was wondering wtf you meant with wheels on a gpu lmao
thick elk
In case of nvidia there may be another reason for their 3x8pin and that's the weird way how nvidia wants to ballance its current and not load the connector too much, I highly doubt it's going to pull vega liquid levels of power.
if it does, we finally get a good successor to fermi
ashen spindle
3x 8 pin?
and yeah I dont see a 350w happening either, that was the 64 liquid tdp iirc?
wheat plume
hmmmmmm
im guessing this is what its looking for, the website it links me to doesnt have an instructions for Arch
ashen spindle
are you trying to do c# stuff on linux
ashen spindle
on linux?
wheat plume
yeh
I want to make some quick changes to the code and cant be bothered to wait for my laptop to boot up into visual studio
ashen spindle
im not 100% sure it, but I think only net core works for that, if you made a .net standard or framework project that might not work, not sure
@fair gull have you done c# on linux or also only compiled for it as a target?
wheat plume
I installed the first one in that screenshot and reopened VS Code and it said it successfully loaded it
wheat plume
kind of odd they dont mention Arch on that website they link to get it frmo
they mention ubuntu, Debian, Alpine
CentOS, Redhat
ashen spindle
prob because nobody worked with that or cared about it
wheat plume
also its easy to find in the repo xd
fair gull
@ashen spindle c# on linux both mono and the .net core compiler
if its for school i dont recommend .net core or mono tbh
ashen spindle
oh right mono, that pos
fair gull
if its supposed to be winforms or use anything win32 related u cant use linux directly tho which is why i wouldnt recommend it for scholl stuff
crimson wigeon
Mono does have basic winforms support tho
fair gull
wha last i checked mono doesnt do win32 at all which by default includes winforms
crimson wigeon
Since a long time ago
I don't know more, all I know is that Steam Desktop Authenticator uses it and works ok
ashen spindle
Mono is the reason unity is so far behind in C# features hence I have a slight grudge against it
crimson wigeon
Yeah, looking forward to it!
ashen spindle
leak of 2.1 GHz on an ampere gpu
it comes from userbenchmark
almost hype but now it's just 100% baseless lmao
vagrant marsh
userbenchmark : get the intel 9100 cause its better than the amd 3600
ashen spindle
ub when zen3 comes out: get intel because the numbers are higher when you look at powerdraw and heat
vagrant marsh
i seriously wonder why they are anti amd till a fault.
fair gull
huh never knew they were sponsored
vagrant marsh
The 3300X is a 4-core Ryzen CPU. Priced at just $120 USD, it offers far better value to gamers than all the Ryzen CPUs before it. This is great news for potential buyers, and bad luck for gamers that recently spent nearly three times more on the 8-core 3700X. The reduction from eight to four cores results in more efficient caching and higher boost clocks. AMD’s marketing has abruptly broken from the firmly established “moar cores” mantra to a conveniently realistic: four cores are actually okay. Maybe they had an epiphany: “less coars”! Shifting goalposts this quickly reveals both an unhealthy focus on first time buyers and a brazen disregard for existing customers. Marketing aside, the 3300X remains constrained by high architectural latency and the associated gaming bottleneck (frame drops). Comparing an overclocked 3300X pegged at 4425 MHz to a stock Intel Core i3-10100 running at 4100 MHz shows that the i3-10100 delivers better gaming performance in four out of five games. The 10100 also includes an iGPU with QuickSync hardware encoding. Since additional cores make little difference to gamers, there are no significant upgrades beyond the 3300X in the Ryzen product stack. In order to achieve better gaming performance, it is necessary to upgrade to a higher tier Intel CPU. Aside from the mob of marketers that steamroll social media with anonymous accounts (reddit, forums, youtube etc.), users will be hard pressed to find arguments for actual use cases that favor the 3300X over the i3-10100. Gamers are bottlenecked by the Ryzen architecture and desktop users need integrated graphics
ashen spindle
ye they are not just plain retarded, I think, maybe they are but there is a chance its just bc money
fair gull
afaik most of their ranking is user influenced
users provide the benches
and they rate cpus
vagrant marsh
yea, but the reviews of the cpu's they get from cpupro
ashen spindle
yes the site is a SEO cashgrab
vagrant marsh
yes, but what if hte benchmarks are influenced from outside sources?
ashen spindle
can't influence what's already flawed
fair gull
then u go to 3dmark and check the high scores
ashen spindle
well you dont because thats not the first google result
ashen spindle
ye that was pretty terrible from TT, 20% cooler lmao
crimson wigeon
Thermaltakedown
ashen spindle
lmao thats a missed chance there, nice
lofty lintel
thats a weird bomb
looks like the thing on my cpu
!!!
throws PC out of the window
ashen spindle
omg, put your tinfoil hats on
nvidia ampere will have 2.1ghz boosts, bc that was one leak fairly early on and is a tie in with all the 21 stuff
rtx 21xx with 2100 clocks
ashen spindle
sure, but take lets say we take the lowest one we had since fermi, add the clock increase, still a decent amount of performance increase
also, means it cant be on a not great node bc it means they get good yields for that speed, so 5nm seems more likely?
conflicting stuff now
old marlin
I am in kind of an dilemma
we wanna replace the old password manager introduced here by an external guy before any of the other members of the IT were employed here
he wanted money for extracting our passwords so we wanted to see if we can do it ourselves, which we technically aren;t allowed to
and found a ton of logins from other clients of his in our files
and now he offers us to upgrade to a new version of that password manager
ashen spindle
wait other people logged into your files wtf
crimson wigeon
Sounds insecure af
old marlin
no
he just copied the version from one customer to the next
while not deleting login data from them
and they aren't encrypted properly
or at all
crimson wigeon
Sounds lazy af
ashen spindle
jfc thats even worse
old marlin
thing is we legally are not allowed to extract that list
ashen spindle
I mean, im pretty sure legally that also sounds like not fulfilling his deal of keeping it safe or wahtever
old marlin
we can't just pentest without proper consent though
ashen spindle
hmm say you got a tip that something is wrong or so? idk enough legal shit about this
old marlin
nah
we just wanted a easier to use password manager to be used internally
and extract passwords for that
we didn't start poking at it randomly
I have seen funkier shit at work
we have way to much software that requires admin rights on computers
reef tundra
You could look at the unix "pass". Its free, simple and allows for general use and password manegement with gpg keys. It does take more setting up but it does make it very costumisable.
https://www.passwordstore.org/
Also how would one enforce the monopoly of the passwords? You could change them and record them in another manager and he could not do much as you are one that made it.
plucky bone
Yo can someone help me? I am trying to access boot menu but the f10/f12 does not eork
Work
It says missing operating system probably because I connected another hard drive
reef patrol
Delete/F1. Change in BIOS.
These days there's usually a draggable icons priority list.
Something similar to the bottom part of this pic
plucky bone
Ah, ok. i fixed it thanks
Now, do you know any software or programs on windows that can completely clear a harddrive to make it bootable?
I got this error
Dont I need a program, can I just do it when installing?
Saw so.eone say I can write a prompt saying "select disk <disk number> clean convert gpt exit"
reef patrol
isnt del/f2 the standard bios combo
@fair gull Still Del and F1 on most consumer non OEM boards.
reef patrol
I always use F1 or Del.
reef patrol
Now we just need return of the GPU hotties.
ashen spindle
maybe we get a lady Ray or smth, nvidia seems to be cooking up lots of stuff
pale sigil
_2045??
zenith sonnet
3080 Ti so expensive they have to name it 3090 to justify the price tag
Some Colorful leak points to a 1730-2000$ price
Well, hopes are on RDNA2 to bring back competition
ashen spindle
I mean, can't really fault them for selling GEMM cards for gaming if the other options (amd) are worse than it
zenith sonnet
AMD tried that with Vega...
Wasn't too well recieved
One woukd think Nvidia would learn from that
It's probably a stop gap solution because their gaming uarch isn't good enough
Would be weird if they weren't working on one
ashen spindle
or fail at pricing and having to "5d chess" their own margins lower
anyway, hot chips is going on
ICL SP atm
sorry dont have a link to 2024
old marlin
why tf is there an asus anime opening
crimson wigeon
For the weebs
ashen spindle
Prob Korean market reasons
old marlin
lol
ashen spindle
ehh that sounds fine imo
reef patrol
I'm kind of 50/50 on it. Imagine a game like Satisfactory having to purge any mention of Epic in all of their news.
I get what they're saying, but I think it needs to be very specific to "Buy it on Epic today!" and not "We said Epic - Into Valve prison we go."
ashen spindle
mentioniong != promoting it
reef patrol
“In the game you ship via Steam, and in communications on Steam, you may only promote the Steam version and its availability via Steam, and not other distribution outlets. This applies both to full versions of your game and to content patches that change the existing version.”
ashen spindle
saying you cant promote EGS doesnt mean you cant mention epic, the company that makes the engine the game runs on etc.
reef patrol
It's mentioning.
ashen spindle
"you may only promote"
reef patrol
It's too vague.
ashen spindle
also does it mention if it applies only to new posts?
oh, hot chips spoiled a big reason why renoir laptops are so weird in they dont have high end gpu variants etc.
"Initially planned with 6 cores, but SoC/Power curves enabled 8 cores"
I could see OEMs then not considering it for top end products perhaps
but back to the steam thing, yes its vague, I dont know what the satisfactory post are exactly, but if its mentioning epic bc of unreal/ epic funs etc. that's not talking about another version, unless they explicitly state it
they wont have to now write " made by a public engine we cant mention" or smth silly like that
reef patrol
A post like "The game is updated for both our Steam and EGS owners now" would likely fall under this due to the vagueness
ashen spindle
That probably would fit yeah
also, rip, tiger lake up to 65w in this presentation, so nothing for desktop in this talk
old marlin
@ashen spindle mentioning = promoting
ashen spindle
but epic itself is not the other platform
old marlin
it is like the german index
they can't mention it in any way or even suggest it exists
but if you ask for it they can give you the info
ashen spindle
otherwise you couldn't even make an update blog that mentions "upgraded to unreal version 5 " when thats a changelog
old marlin
ue5 is not a distribution outlet
just because it runs on it does not mean it is on egs
ashen spindle
yes, I guess a better example, what if the game recieves a epic mega grant funding and thus does stuff, are they supposed to say "we change stuff bc we got money from somewhere"
its too vague to know for sure, I just dont see steam wanting to join the anti trust probes of the us/eu right now for wording
meh, I can fully understand why thats now allowed and its fair imo
" More than a generational improvement in a single product cycle" regarding tiger lake, yea you better hope its more because the last product cycle started 2015 lmao
pale sigil
I hate paying for domains lol
ashen spindle
just dont pay lmao, what they gonna do, go to your website? lol
pale sigil
Oh noes im gonna actually have to start paying for my server 
@ashen spindle well i use the domain A LOT
ashen spindle
do I really need to add a /s after that
ashen spindle
will do that from now on everytime /s
pale sigil
gib me free domains pls
ill just let it expire and rebuy it
ez
they want 25 quid
time to abuse my never expiring uni email
again
is there anything that anyone here would find uselful?
reef tundra
Domainnames are pretty cheap, especially if the top domain is not important. I believe that .xyz is pretty cheap right now
ashen spindle
oh, guess I accidently posted that in games talk, was confused where my post about that is
pale sigil
@reef tundra .xyz is blocked by a lot of sites
reef tundra
lol
reef tundra
.creditcard for just 123.75 dollars 🤔
pale sigil
lol
last cave
@pale sigil why do u have so much roles?
last cave
wheat plume
Using the screenshot button in the power menu doesn't trigger snapchat saying you took a screenshot
At least on EvolutionX
last cave
at least your not changing ISP
pale sigil
Tbh
When I did that years ago I just timed it so it was half wag through the month
And it's gone
pale sigil
@halcyon moss moving it will cost more tho
halcyon moss
picked the wrong registrar?
pale sigil
Am i reading this wrong
13 quid for 2 years
or 13 charged next year
Your free 1-year extension with us starts after your current registration expires.
reef patrol
Looks like "pay now, get second year free"
pale sigil
i would
ye
i asked them
awesome
im gonna haggle with my current though
i wanna avoid everything being fussy
changing domain sucks
especially when you're using it for media hosting
Lol they offered to reduce it to 11.38
oh nvm
this is excluding vat
3 options
Transfer to go daddy for 2 years = 16.54 (dont really have the money)
Transfer to 1and1 = 2.50 then 15/y
Keep at current place for 11 quid
ashen spindle
hallo marcel
pale sigil
shhh
halcyon moss
go daddy? ugh
pale sigil
Buys 15 pound router
Using old powerline adapter for it
Bought for the sole use of having internet in the garden
says its a waste
i said internet because she doesn't know what bandwith means
reef patrol
halcyon moss
stop downloading all teh pr0n
pale sigil
was download flight sim innit
ashen spindle
just limit download speed
pale sigil
cant im afraid
ashen spindle
bet ms store doesnt even offer taht
pale sigil
not even the issue
the store downloads an installer
once you launch the game it downloads the game
crimson wigeon
It does... but it doesn't really work in my experience
ashen spindle
put a ahrd cap via router on your pc then
ashen spindle
from the ui it looks like it has the firmware my old one had and that could doit
ashen spindle
hrmm cant look it up anymore but I was certain there was an option
pale sigil
there literally isn't