I can't see it so it gotta be good, oh there it is
#🔌│tech
crimson wigeon
fair gull
4009 koreans off
plucky bone
Hehe
ashen spindle
is Kjøp the budget kpop variant?
also no clue about tvs
oh, here comes the conspiracy, amd made cpu chiplets bc on gpu side they noticed they cant make big chips 
shadow minnow
QLED sucks
plucky bone
@shadow minnow QLED, 500$ LED or 1300$ OLED?
plucky bone
Hmm, ok so QLED is not worth
shadow minnow
Also, cheaper QLED monitors have not enough zones
I mean, oddiseys g7/9 marketing looked like they have 200+ zones
In reality, g9 has ten, g7 8
Do you like this monitor ? 
shadow minnow
I mean, TVs are lot better than monitors for that
TVs are far better about things like contrast ratio, image quality...
plucky bone
Oof I would not be able to live with a monitor like that
shadow minnow
It will usually not look that bad
I mean, if OLED just was not that expensive and had completely solved burn in 😦
plucky bone
:(
Maybe I should just get a LED TV and get an OLED when I grt a job
Cant really justify the burn in
Btw how do you get certified?
shadow minnow
Do you have LE preordered? @plucky bone
plucky bone
No, I signed up too late, I should have gotten the wooting one like 8 days ago tough
shadow minnow
Than you can not get certified Lekker, but if you have Wooting one, then you could be wooting member
@reef patrol you here?
reef patrol
shadow minnow
Sounds like @plucky bone should get wooting member role, or at least, if I understood correctly he has / has ordered Wooting one
reef patrol
You know the rules - And So - do - Iiiiiiiii
Just gotta post a pic of the Board setup in #archived_wootstations
ivory geyser
@plucky bone have you contacted the wooting support about this?
reef patrol
shadow minnow
plucky bone
No 
ivory geyser
@reef patrol technically I posted a video of mine. Does it still count? 👀
ivory geyser
shadow minnow
ivory geyser
@plucky bone you should contact the support. For real.
shadow minnow
Or greedy falcondragon
plucky bone
Ok
reef patrol
We're waiting for your call...or mail rather 😄
ashen spindle
did you get tracking?
if you got tracking no point in talking to support but rather to the postal service
ivory geyser
@shadow minnow space-chaos-eldritch-gryphon, thank-you-very-much!
shadow minnow
Rather just call me bexin / confused
You know the rules - And So - do - Iiiiiiiii
Just gotta post a pic of the Board setup in #archived_wootstations
@reef patrol problem is many people do not read rules, and even those who do, they may forget (I have also forgotten lol)
ashen spindle
and no tracking still?
plucky bone
Ye
ashen spindle
ye then just send them an email
plucky bone
It said I would get an email when it was sent but I have not gotten one
I just did! :)
reef patrol
I promise to look at it tomorrow. For now... bedtiem 😄
shadow minnow
Night mansen
mental basin
So.... I didn't really want to have to invest into soldering a LED or something to my mouse to test inputlag on games so I tried a ton of makeshift things
in general keyboards had terrible button to LED delay, like... majority had 20-30ms
but the glorious model o came in clutch
on button press the LED changes color within 1-4ms (240fps camera, but I'm very confident it's 1ms)
so I now have a great way of testing inputlag without any expensive fancy setup
old marlin
can tell you rn that the input delay on it is a lot bigger
mental basin
on?
mental basin
yes but that doesn't matter
because the LED is changing on click confirm
not on click latency
;P
mental basin
what...?
I'm not sure where the problem lies outside of the fact that it's not accurate to the decimals and is still forced to be confirmed through eyes / high speed fps camera, it's more than enough to check different inputlag on v sync modes, non v sync, vrr, DWM disabled, framerate limiting etc.
old marlin
there is no problem
but you get more accurate results with bump testing to a reference mouse
mental basin
the LED is changing on when the click is confirmed, I'm only taking a look at the LED color change and luckily for me the LED color change is happening on when the click is confirmed
LED color change = input is registered, take a look at screen, see the inputlag from when the input was registered through high speed camera.
ashen spindle
mindfactory
old marlin
lol
still a good price
also my laptop has two in a raid
really only want to replace my hdd though
since 5600 rpm SUUUUCKS
reef patrol
That's not really cheap though
reef patrol
No it's NVME
reef patrol
Still not cheap though
plucky bone
^
reef patrol
The 109€ is just normal price here
plucky bone
Same
old marlin
wait really
wtf
they have come down in price a lot then
cause a sata one is like 10 euros cheaper
reef patrol
Yep.
old marlin
fml
ashen spindle
intel 660p are also around the price and prob a safe bet for QLC drives
or 665p now
reef patrol
Yeah there's a lot of choices now.
old marlin
ehhh
I'll prolly get a WD blue 1tb drive
those seem to be the best bang for the buck
for that size of drive at least
ashen spindle
idk with the recent SMR debacle at WD I probably trust intel more in that regard
(in the nand sector, not in general lul)
old marlin
SMR should not be a problem in NAND 
also you couldn't trust any HDD manufacturer then
also I need sata
ashen spindle
yeah and intel doesnt make HDDs
ashen spindle
get a nvme to sata adapter and get a 2.5 intel nvme lul
ashen spindle
that reminds me, wonder how mad the optane guys at intel are, that they basically get shafted bc intel doesnt have pcie4 out when amd has it for liek a year
ashen spindle
could be more or less tbh
we dont really know yet
not even 100% yet that RKL will have it
dont have a leaked ES that would tell us afaik
fair gull
@old marlin i mean ure limited with wd anyway to green (ssd), blue (hdd) or red (nas hdd) for 2,5inch
fair gull
blues come as ssd? wot
fair gull
i only ever saw greens
and thus kinda stayed away from wd ssd
prefered hp and samsung
reef patrol
"Blue" is such a line of disks.
They make them in all form factors.
Same with green and black.
Green for discount, Blue for average user, Black for Purrfurmance.
ashen spindle
no green is nvidia so you need to install your WD green in your gpu
oh lmao, I completely forgot mindfactor was a eu shop yesterday, so the RMA numbers are actually useless, since they include 14 day returns with no reason etc.
old marlin
Lol
ashen spindle
guess we know powercolor = bad as the only takeaway lul
fair gull
the question is do they include those or not
ashen spindle
apparently so
fair gull
since they could have prefiltered the numbers
ashen spindle
guess in the end it only made amd fanboy's denial of driver issues etc. even stronger rip
ashen spindle
I think frontier and el capitan are amazing bc they will cause non-amd people to work on the software stack
but that's 2021/23 so it'll be a while before they can fix it all lmao
and then its mostly CDNA focused on gpu side so idk how much that trickles down to rdna
wheat plume
I dont understand shell prompts when you are a github repo folder
what do these symbols mean?
wheat plume
might just be my fish prompt theme also
ashen spindle
is this your own repo?
wheat plume
yup
crimson wigeon
Yeah basically those fancy shell prompts simply run something like git status and parse the output of that
reef patrol
Welcome to Web 8.0
wheat plume
how tf you type this url? :')
wheat plume
lol have one too
ashen spindle
could also do the only sensible thing and refuse to use any website putting emoji in a link
wheat plume
i found this in the github repo for starship prompt
:')
doesnt show when I paste it
odd
ashen spindle
no it does, just doesnt get converted into the emoji
wheat plume
oh %F0
ashen spindle
no all of that and not just the first part ofc
ashen spindle
%F0%9F%8C%B1
wheat plume
yeah..... danng
zenith sonnet
tl;dr: Reddit RMA sheet is misleading at best, or just plain wrong
halcyon moss
time to practice my german :p
halcyon moss
does it say why? so far it was just a listing of models and their rates..
thick elk
The sheet is also returns within 14 days so not nessesarily defects from what I heard.
Also I think looking at the sheets again it speaks more about the board partner than amd / nvidia.
Powercolor being pretty terrible and msi having both 1.99% on nvidia and amd.
thick elk
I think the only reasonable conclution you could draw is the xfx thick 2 or anything made by powercolor is pretty risky.
ashen spindle
personally I still have the suspicion that we will see more rma's on rdna2 than on ampere
bc we already see slightly higher ones on rdna, and the dies are much smaller than turing
iirc the atrifacting issue early 2080ti's had was found out to be mounting pressure caused, so even the really big dies seem to be quite reliable
thick elk
I think the rma rate has mostly to do with the board partners and software rather than the actual silicon. The chips themselves probably fail a lot less than the vrm / fans on the boards. That being said Nvidia drives the higher sales numbers still, so I would expect the boards on nvidia's side to be a bit higher quality on average. On the software side from what I understand AMD's windows drivers are a bit more prone to breaking on upgrades which may also cause more rma's.
ashen spindle
but many aib's deliver gpus for both of them so that kinda equals it out, not like they all are exclusive
also always a unkown degree of how much is amd/nvidia at fault for a faulty chip vs the foundry who made it
also doesnt help that amd made shit tier reference designs that cause more heat and thus more issues
ashen spindle
great, was looking into more data, see new rumours and check them out
apparently people now think, bc zen2 is chiplet, that means amd can easily make chiplet gpus now for rdna3
god no wonder they dont understand something as simple as rma rates
ashen spindle
in unrelated news, amd stock is on the rise again for seemingly no reason lmao
x% of frontier owners also still have driver issues having the card not work
or radeonvii
cant remember which one it was
fair gull
zsh might but who knows i dont switch away from bash
ashen spindle
you know at some point Im just confused why you'd not just use a GUI if you basically tweak your cmd to look like one
wheat plume
this doesnt look like a gui :')
fair gull
no the whole coloring and shit
wheat plume
oh, fish does this normally
fair gull
so it either has a db of what can run with which executeable, it runs them silently in a sandbox to check or it searches man pages
imo all 3 kinda eh solutions
wheat plume
iirc it checks man pages
fair gull
plus running all these checks for almost no reason sounds like a waste of cpu cycles
crimson wigeon
Eh it's nothing clever really, the clever CPU cycle eating stuff only really happens when you hit tab
fair gull
save the cycles
zenith sonnet
The RMA sheet also looked at Super cards mostly(only?), which are a refresh. PCGH pointed out, that the original Turing cards had higher return rates as well
Some math and rounding errors aside...
They have a wafer agreement with GF?
Need to make SOMETHING there
ashen spindle
prob bc its easier to have the 580 over a downscaled rdna card that might perform worse perf/power wise lul
ashen spindle
oh another point might be, if the 580 was made on GloFo and not TSMC, they might still have some waver deals that need to be fullfilled, but I think zen2 IO dies completed that
ashen spindle
ah looks like the wafer agreemend was 12nm till '21 so I guess I misremembered the part about it being a specific ammount
ashen spindle
Meanwhile intel‘s GPU venture seems completely like a failure, sadly. Doubt we see a attempt 3 from them ever again
mental basin
honestly im fine with that
im waiting so anxiously on nvidia's 3000 series
i wanna see this "50%" improvement
so it can drop the 2080 cards value by a million
ashen spindle
50% sure, just not at 1080p
fickle ore
@ashen spindle it's also good idea to bear in mind that smaller node ages faster.. So if turing was not 7nm but rdna was, then it can explain some 0,% differences
mental basin
lmao thats great
ashen spindle
also wtf is "smaller node ages faster"
you mean smaller nodes are not as mature yet?
fickle ore
no, the small size makes them age faster, and if the silicon is already bad it can die before RMA period is over
fickle ore
that and couple other things which are accelerated at smaller node sizes
ashen spindle
im pretty sure thats not realated
if anything a better v/f curve should lessen that
if that would matter than much we would've seen insane loss in lifespan relatively in older cpu/gpus already
fickle ore
heat density increases as packages become much smaller, while yes more effective, but increased performance/clock cycle, so in the end they pull about the same W as before with larger packages e.g. 7nm vs 12nm
ashen spindle
efficency increases aswell thats why zen2 can work on 95W vs intel needing 200+W
fickle ore
to be fair you're comparing 10yo architecture with 2 year old architecture so its not apples to apples
it's a good read
ashen spindle
sure it feels like 10 but's just 5 years for skylake
and the issue is more on 14nm than the uArch
and yes, we are coming to an area where we are needing GAAFET etc. but EUV and similar are also used for 7nm to make it better than 10nm without skippiing finfet
fickle ore
Yep. But faster aging silicon will happen with smaller nodes sadly
ashen spindle
but not to such an extreme extend
fickle ore
I said it might account for 0,1-1% differences in the RMA amounts, doubt anyone did a research on it
Where did I say it's extreme?
:p
ashen spindle
some 0,% differences, that would mean much more than up to 1% of the rma'd units
fickle ore
0,% meaning 0,000001% to 0,9999999999% so within 1%
ashen spindle
yes but to explain any relevant difference, it'd need to be more than 1% of rma'd cases
for that we dont even have enough data points
fickle ore
Yeah I'm not trying, just saying to bear in mind it's there. No need to prove it, it already is an issue. So better cooling/lower ambient becomes much more meaningful as we go smaller in nodes
ashen spindle
amd and better cooling
fickle ore
@prisma crag Yeah I do that too. Which is why I never buy 2nd hand.. 2-3 warranty is worth me more than 20-30$ discounts
ashen spindle
thankfully not relevant here, eu rma is nice
fickle ore
still that eu warranty is usually max 2-3 yrs
Lol
I'm done buying ASUS products. MSI sucks.. ASrock is Asus.. so basically forced to buy Gigabyte these days ;_;
sry to hear
ashen spindle
asrock is asus? what
old marlin
asrock WAS asus
ashen spindle
new amd driver, whats under known issues
Some games may exhibit stutter intermittently during gameplay on Radeon RX 5000 series graphics products.
nice
reef tundra
Then upgrade to Radean Rx 6000 series
ashen spindle
HDMI also ssems to not work fine, audio and fps issues over hdmi
god I hope nvidia reworks they policy and how they handle software so it's easier to work with so you dont need to decide between good software stack with terrible access or good access on terrible sw stack
reef tundra
hdmi is unkool anyways. DP is less royalties collecting
mental basin
the only thing i know is im waiting for the day a card will be as valuable and good as the gtx 980 ti
what a goddamn freak card of its time
reef tundra
Brah, the valve index is just 1 k.
also getting a used videocard is usually budget friendly. former mining videocards are very cheap, as silicon doesnt wear that much and usually the fans are the failure. So replace those for 10 euros and ez
last gen? its pretty modern compared to the rest of the market
dont follow the vr market much so could have missed something
But biggest feature in vr is probably the frame rate and display resolution. Belief that motion sickness is concidered to be better with better screens.
mental basin
biggest part about VR is latency reduction
and that makes me happy
working on lowering latency seems like a dying breed at times
with each windows update lol
reef tundra
Heard somewhere that Alyx was made as testing ground for their vr. Then they developed it to be what it is now. With the expectation that it would be a flop, but it wasnt
frozen anchor
windows in general isnt the best for low latency anyways
reef tundra
It is a really nice vr game that has really robust compatebility with non-index headsets. Which they did not have to.. but they did anyway. Ofcource the index has the most interactivity, as it has force sensors for every finger
which most dont
but it tries to render as authentic as the input allows
Dont forget to crush the can
vr itself is very odd. actually having it on and watching footage of it. Is distinctly different. The brain just fools itself into making it real, which it normally doesnt do.
so much that it becomes the character, falling is like actual fall. Having a mininuke fly past you creates the feeling of terror
its great
and good
and satisfying
and nightmare on demand
the many buttons, 1 hour to take off game?
just to crash few seconds later as the plane responded odd, due to missing settings
Kerbal space program is more my style. easy take off so you can quickly learn you are not a aircraft engineer. With solution being more engines
but nothing beats some warcrimes in rimworld
The game that inspired the geneva convention. /s
Star Citizen looks in discust of how cheap it is
70 dollars for a virtual plane? 500 take it or leave it
but the big question is, are warcrimes allowed in DCS? else it aint even fun, I need to be able to be the immoral human that is so horrible that it is not a warcrime yet
Napalm and nukes?
Tssss, cant even carpet bomb a heavyly populated city cus lol?
yea, rimwold has made me like this
Get raided. Kill them. take prisoners. take organs. turn meat into fuel. send antimatter rocket and mortar. nuke their home. gift the unprocessed human meat as gift to increase goodwill. turn human leather into hats. sell hats for profit. cool and normal
it is not
colony management
the lite version of dwarffortress
and that is uemmm the hagues worst nightmare
Something for the timepolice to solve
star citizen is really ambisious, which might be the reason it could fail. It tries to be everything game but the (founders?) thought that the game wont need money and thus did a permanent loan with a transfer of ownership of said load to the loaner for a period of infinite time. Man needs a home somehow. even tho it was already low on funds compared to the expected costs when he did that.
its odd
Elite dangerous van also be an interresting title to look at.
frozen anchor
While elite dangerous is pretty much a full game it feels like a grindfest pretty soon
true quest
reef tundra
if anything it means the price can be raised 🙂
vagrant marsh
i got a problem with windows 10, maybe some1 here knows how to fix it. so i got a -file-, just a generic file as example on the desktop. i drag and drop it into a map. instead of moving the file, it makes a copy of the file and put it into the map. so now i got 2 files. how do i make it move the file, instead of copy/pasting it?
reef patrol
Hold right mouse button while dragging.
Or right click and say CUT
And then PASTE
Windows defaults to copying files and folders if it's on another drive.
vagrant marsh
ah
reef tundra
control x and control v also work
with control x making the selected file grayed out and it moves the files instead of copy the files. Thus one copy still exists
control v is to paste
halcyon moss
it only does that when its ona different drive right?
reef tundra
Yes, has to do with people being genuises and moving the file and proceeding to kill the harddrive
thus killing the only copy of the file and having a angry person callling them
cus it cannot be user fault, but the operating system sould have been senseble
And yes that is exactly what would happen, dont underestame how much users can destroy everythinh
old marlin
and CDs can't handle it
halcyon moss
an other way of looking at it, its the fastest way to do it
move on the same disk is just changing a reference, can't do that on a different drive
vagrant marsh
which is weird, cause these are 2 drives on the same operating system
cant they be programmed to be seen as just 1 big drive?
old marlin
that has nothing to do with that
you can't just change the reference to point to another drive
reef tundra
lvm2 can do that but adds like 2 seconds to boot time and makes both drives able to wipe ur data
and that is bloat so it is gone
ashen spindle
just change pointer to the other drive, duhh
vagrant marsh
i just think its weird why 2 drives cant be programmed to behave like 1 big drive. sure, they are both on their own connection. but if i install a game shared over the 2 drives, shouldnt it be logical that if a file is needed that it simply searches both drives until the file is found? i mean, arnt we living with nvme that has supposidly high data rates?
crimson wigeon
Yes that's what stuff like RAID can do
reef tundra
Raid is basic and I dont like it cus lol
vagrant marsh
😆
ashen spindle
the year we live in hardly changes how physics work
crimson wigeon
If you're using Windows, Storage Spaces (but that is more likely going to nuke your data), Linux... LVM, or a FS that supports multiple devices (Btrfs perhaps, or ZFS if you're like that)
reef tundra
Imagine an operating system that you can own and do with what you please
ashen spindle
raid is the most common thing close to what you have in mind but doesnt work the way you imagine it
reef tundra
insanity
vagrant marsh
sure, when using hard drives, i fgure its too slow to make the system search both drives until all files are found. but with m.2 memory, shouldnt it be fast enough that within a second of a second it found everything needed?
reef tundra
Why not go full big brain and ssd raid 0 100 drives lets go
redundancy is a myth. you dont want more speed or something?
vagrant marsh
we already got more speed.
reef tundra
but what if it was even more speed.
vagrant marsh
do i look like a ps5 to you
reef tundra
It need to be so fast that throwing my pc is slower than sending it normally
I call it the system break test
cus it end with broken system
maybe physical maybe one drive crached and raid lost its configuration
but what ever it leads to one thing is certain, its unable to utilise the speed and breaks often. But cost a lot it does
pale sigil
Christ https://youtu.be/V1ji69aszv0
ashen spindle
out of everything it had to be from the sun?
reef tundra
That is why the vampires are right, outside is dangerous stay indoors
ashen spindle
also, 2070 super end of life'd apparently, so we might get a launch of rtx 3080ti/80/70 and others later, like with the 20 series
reef tundra
nvidia has lost count and reinvent the counting system
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 20 super 30?
ashen spindle
you think amd makes more sense? 580, 7, 64, 5700
reef tundra
that is how many lines the head was doing during the project
ashen spindle
time to recommend the software guys to do 5700 lines then
reef tundra
they will know sanity not for a long time...
but atleast the css is done
and dont tell em yet that he wasted all his time as we dont want wordpress remade but for the new firmware
pale sigil
sigh, mum got a cheap TV, she asked for my advice, i told her its the cheapest there is and thats for a reason.
She wants a good 4K tv but isn't willing to spend the money
old marlin
@ashen spindle link for the EOL?
pale sigil
320 pounds
ashen spindle
uhh some chinese forum one sec
reef tundra
a nice 4k washedout mess of a screen
ashen spindle
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-30-series-to-gradually-launch-between-september-and-november has the link to the chinese forum
ashen spindle
ya
pale sigil
@reef tundra Exactly, i told her there is nothing better i guess but thats because every other 4k screen starts much higher lol
for a reason
ashen spindle
ye
reef tundra
4k displays can be too much for some setups. At some point the pixels become undistict yet they still cost money
old marlin
rip gamescom
reef tundra
high refresh rate is for me more important than the pixels 1080 has served me well
old marlin
wanted to meet up with some european friends there
reef tundra
but dont buy the cheapest 4k display they are horrible
cus they did everything to cheapout and just reach that marktable of being "4k"
reef tundra
there is a difference between the cheapest option and cheap/budget option
with one being bearable
and usually just a little more expensive
reef tundra
aw hell yea 720 p hype
even tho most people and forums refered hd as 1080p
marketing didnt care and redefined it to be better to see on the box than on the display
which is the last place i care about the image quality
because i have to throw the boxes away anyways as it will other wise just lay around and collect dust for that what if moment just for it to be thrown years later away
Just like consumables in games just use em have fun or it will remain unused and pointless, while telling yourself that maybe you need it not now but the next time even more?
just to repeat it
also witcher 3 consumables are cheap. One alcohol refills all. Learned that half way into my second deathmarch playthrough
then realised had probably more than 100 alcohol and made me feel the hoarder that I am
zenith sonnet
Oh god
I never really needed any of the stuff they pack you with in the Witcher 3
I had thousands of ingredients
Also, seems like AMD hit $100B market cap, about half that of intel now
reef tundra
Deathmarch makes those a little better untill food lasts 20 minutes lol
then masacre some animal collect some lump of meat and it lasts for the rest of your playthrough XD
or walk around a city and collect "lost" goods
zenith sonnet
I was playing highest difficulty, don't remember the name
Tbh, it could have used another difficulty up
ashen spindle
jesus, this is the last 3 years of intel vs amd stock price
couldnt find one that shows market cap sadly
reef tundra
amd machine goes brrrrrrrrrr
ashen spindle
but I think amd is around 100b now and intel like 210b
reef tundra
AMD's ceo has really saved the company really nice. Pretty much, do what we good at, dont make what do are not good at
ashen spindle
yup
well, in software that hopefully isnt the case, dont want them to not do that at all anymore
reef tundra
Intel dominates the server space and amd has little chance to change this. personal pc, this was their domain in the 2000s
consoles seem to be good marktet for amd aswell. intel doesnt deliver same apu power
ashen spindle
Uhh you are really mistaken about them not having a chance in servers
Not even bc zen is better, just bc server owners learn that they can’t trust intel roadmaps anymore
reef tundra
yea, try telling the sysadmin that when intel 'just' works.
ashen spindle
except they dont bc you literally need pcie4 for A100 systems, or when you have to patch yet another specter flaw on intel etc.
at this point ARM is the bigger issue than intel for amd
reef tundra
Linux allows you to disable these patches xd 33% of performace returned
yea cant really fault the architecture
ashen spindle
cant disable them if its mission critical
even then, memory/vrm encryption for example is an option on amd for like 1% cpu usage, not even possible on intel
reef tundra
if forced to be backward compatebiel with a 4 bit microprocessor from the 60s. and even then intel engineers rushed that chip to market not knowing how important it would be.
ashen spindle
point is, intel needs to fix 7nm or they have lost servers fully
reef tundra
sometimes it just needs a chop in that chain which arm did. and the 7nm is more a their inhouse technology is garbage
they wanted to use that hip and cool thing which barely works for that scale
ashen spindle
yeah so thats a issue of management wanting stuff where they have no clue
reef tundra
its crusial for intel to quickly resolve this else AMD will be given a free generation of advantage and rep
seems managent is holding back a little extremely much
ashen spindle
that is what is happening right now
reef tundra
instead of here money make it
ashen spindle
they needed to replace board of directors when the 10nm fiasco started, not just now when 7nm is DoA
reef tundra
or change attitude the let engineer innvate instead of making what the boards think the market needs.
its like the engineers know the market
ashen spindle
yeah, for that you need to replace the board bc they are not engineers
the CEO is a financial guy
reef tundra
I wont cry too hard for intel. This is a wide swing that started years ago, they hoped that they could ignore the problem away
ashen spindle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiKjzeLco6c decent watch on the topic btw
reef tundra
well know it hits em
will they respond or ignore amd;s second win
This is really bad for brand image
the underdog that can do better than the one with a lot more money to burn and dominant for decade
enthousiast market is pretty much gone
casual market amd begins to be a lot more common
Risk-V begins slowly enter the marktet, with the advantage of free and opensource ISA.
will need some more years to gain trust and familiairity in its users
also intel needs to stop with their abritrary hiding/disabling features. it just makes the other side a lot sweeter.
pale sigil
ashen spindle
normal price
misty pier
not too bad
reef tundra
seems to be normal pricing.
also the ram pricing has stayed pretty stable recently with it seeming to slowly lower in price. From the limited information that is availble on ram. So seems to be good time to buy, might fall but fires can double the cost, lol.
also check if mobo likes the frequency, ddr, dual. It can sometimes ruin someones day... until you read the manual and did not put any stick onthe mentioned slot in the manual
ashen spindle
if a board cant do 3200 you are buying something from 10 years ago lmao
reef tundra
eh true, but best to mention as ddr3 is still a thing. somehow
probabl=y because its cheap and it kinda looks the same thus somehow must be the same
Users make me scared of them being near the pc
ashen spindle
if you are buying ddr3 ram when you need ddr4 you need a lot more help than someone pointing out to read a manual lmao
reef tundra
Just need a bussiness man that found a hole in the markt and it just doesnt get it. And you are bound to arive there
and you tell em it wont work but get dismissed and just comply. Just to later learn that it wont work
Always love the hear that IT means anything that uses power and also those what doesnt.
halcyon moss
datacenters care about performance per watt and reliability
ashen spindle
https://twitter.com/SasaMarinkovic/status/1290418854372315137 they hit it that they and we still have "analysts" predicting a 8-9$ share price for amd lmao
halcyon moss
gosh, installing ubuntu in KVM is slow as hell
silk blade
where is the qcow2 located?
because i have it on a ssd and there installing any os (haven't testet ubuntu specially but debian is quite fast)
halcyon moss
an ssd
silk blade
hmhm
you use the virtio-scsi and set the bustype to scsi? (virtio bustype should be fine as well, as i think they enables trimming support on there too)
halcyon moss
ehh.. no idea :p
Its just for running unifi, as it is a complex thing. otherwise it would run in docker
silk blade
i guess you use libvirt? when yes check that its not set to ide
halcyon moss
crap forgot to install sshd -_-
halcyon moss
hm, lxc is different than kvm?
halcyon moss
ive not played with VMs in a loooong time
fair gull
lxc is more like docker
silk blade
lxc is cool for many cases where you otherwise would use a vm because docker and co are not usefull
yeah but more like a vm in how you use it
fair gull
isnt that the same as docker then
halcyon moss
i guess.. technically i could use a docker container as a vm.. just never recreate it :p
silk blade
well yes but then you can use lxc 😄
fair gull
really need to get around using that sd card slot in my server
and just running virt systems
silk blade
ahh yeah and have the system in a read only state? 😄
fair gull
not like it matters
the virt systems can use the entire front sas plane tho
so i dont waste space with some host os there
silk blade
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/2196881 love that feature
😄
use that feature on a small hpc system, where all machines boot of the same read only nfs share, works like charm
halcyon moss
i need to run the old controller.. i have a square ap
silk blade
uhh 😦
halcyon moss
man, even getting this stufdf working in a VM is tough 😮
crimson wigeon
Oh that sounds painful then
Meanwhile here I am jsut installing the unifi package on my rpi not even bothering with containers because I'm old school
halcyon moss
@crimson wigeon i bet you're installing the newest version 🙂 that one does not support my AP 😦
crimson wigeon
Yeh exactly
crimson wigeon
Getting legacy stuff going is always a pain
halcyon moss
dpkg: unifi: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you requested:
ok, im done for the day...
💤
reef tundra
Nah
frozen anchor
only thing i see wrong with ultrawide gaming monitors is that a lot of games dont work well with them
vagrant marsh
this screen seems to support picture by picture mode. so the screen splits up into 2. if a game doesnt work well, i can just do that.
reef tundra
This can be resolved with babuskas rolling pin, that you somehow now have
vagrant marsh
what?
vagrant marsh
resolution scaling?
reef tundra
If bob ross could spread the paint the bits can be spread with a rolling pin.
Small text: Results will be varied and often leads to disappointment and broken screens
I would use xrandr to virually make multiple displays from that one real display
ashen spindle
or you just set it to 16:9 via the games resolution and you use that
reef tundra
Or you can have 3 normal monitors and glue them together to remove warranty
Currently in the redecorating and might be able to get a triple monitor setup. Ay yea im moving up in the world not 2 but 3 displays to make me unproductive.
Now that might be epic
vagrant marsh
still doesnt beat my dad tho
reef tundra
Aww you let him beat you in chess?
vagrant marsh
he uses 1 screen on his pc to watch snooker minimized through an app in a corner of his screen while watching a boat streaming his journey, got a laptop besides it to watch soccer, and plays a tetris like game on his ipad, while texting with family on his mobile
thats 1 screen more than you, mister 😛
he is retired so he can be unproductive
frozen anchor
i also bought a monitor and its supposed to be in stock again this week but im not getting my hopes up for that
yeah
ashen spindle
just catch them with a net lol
fair gull
all the lekkers
frozen anchor
just grab them before they fall 👍
fair gull
drowned
frozen anchor
RIP
reef patrol
ashen spindle
reef tundra
To better the monitor setup use VR. Cant defeat a mad man with a disregard of the pc and ability to spawn more displays. RGB will guide the roads of the VR kingdom, if it works but anyways, dab and fedoras are still not cool. Still missing the toxic lobbies of halo. They were meme gold mines.
Yolo yeet and like a boss.
-executive (the kids love this)
chrome estuary
also in the case of a game not working, Take the Linus approach and just set your monitor into a 16:9 resolution.
vagrant marsh
lol
reef tundra
If game misbehave kill he gets. With the forced kill given seconds later. My computer is a dictatorship and discinents are never seen. They just disappear, if not voluntarily the kernel will make it fast with a request to die. It is very fast but no crime so never active unless you ask too much =_=
Aww hell yeah. Sleep deprivation does that sometimes
But why think? Sounds like bloat
Fix the errors in the end. Planning doesnt write code.
Mmm yes my favourite big space rock
Keeps me safe at the moment
Pretty cool that it has one moon, which is one of the largest moons in the solar system.
1000 nit? You buying a flashlight there?
Imagine waking up with that in the eyes.
Hell yeah
Oh its a huge ass tv
Thought it was some laptop screen
Tv is what you vind it to be
Tuners are last age. We use the internet now , connect cable and cries
Some tv do that
Not all
But the difference is vaguely defined especially in normal conversation
Yea got a new monitor. Pulls out imax
Its doras bag so it fits just about
But there is this weird fox trying to steal it. It is oblivious and usually realise that he has no use for the bag and just disperses the contents. Does it once tho.
Discord may not allow it. User botting, I believe why.
frozen anchor
it is against discord tos but they dont enforce it unless you do something malicious
reef tundra
However if acting normally and not try to dos every server connected enforcement is really scarce. As the dos is more of a problem for discord
Why waste resources on people that do not a lot when there are way bigger fish to ban out there
frozen anchor
you can do the same with a betterdiscord plugin
lol with ripcord you can see all the super secret discord channels you dont have access to
pale sigil
You can on better discord
reef tundra
Best way to get a useless anti-cheat id to overload it by banning every one and no leniency cus why do that. Just to realise that anti-cheat cant analyse fast enough and the waiting time is that it crashed the server instead.
reef tundra
It has the last name of Obama
Area51 and the aliens phonenumbers
And ofcource the coordinates of the pack.png
frozen anchor
i have now acquired the power of seeing hidden channels lol
spiral belfry
@spiral belfry's hidden shizzle
@pale sigil 2 of them are dead 😛
reef tundra
Also when random elf gives ring use it dont worry about the corruption. Its fine
You can do magic tricks instead of having freewill. Much more epic
Also where did my screwdriver teleport to?
Its gone
Wut
Haha i got more
Not a good set, instead of German steel you get chinesium metal. Which could be steel but aluminium screws will easy strip it. Somehow survived a lot.
reef tundra
Just buy a lot of cheapo smartphones and smash a few as a gag to seem to flex on them poor people. Flexing is best when done with as little money as possible. Might result in being labelled as insane
wheat plume
XD
reef tundra
But just take out the second phons and just ignore that you cant understand poor
No he doesnt have his earphones in just flexing with having a backup phone onhand
This is innovation
This costs more
And creates schock
And warrent
wheat plume
the back of the note is so much better, I saw $200 phones that look better than the s20
reef tundra
But lol
Imagine a 911 call that someone is smashing his phones and now everybody feels poor just like you after buying those cheapos.
wheat plume
it looks so bad, note FTW, and its fingerprint resistant
reef tundra
How is samsung with unlocking bootloader and rooting?
reef tundra
If not allowed it just takes time untill a exploid is found to root anyways.
But sometimes manages to hide the fact it is rooted. Which is worse than just allowing user to unlock the bootloader
wheat plume
samsung = amazing hardware + more customisation in the software that rivals even the most populasr custom roms + shit ton of bloatware apps you will never want to use + terrible looking icons
reef tundra
How much family unfriendly chemicals is the artists permanent on? Jeez
The case looks awful. Like when I try to make it look cool in CAD and just end up making it look worse than clingfilm
wheat plume
I greatly dislike the samsung out of the box experience
@prisma crag if they added all their customisation to the look and feel of stock Android then I'd be happy
reef tundra
LineageOS looks around. Hehe 100gb mine
reef tundra
Just go arch linux
wheat plume
says the person using a 90% stock Android 10 rom
reef tundra
We need to arch on the go
wheat plume
Xd
reef tundra
Just for thos quick pacman -Syyy moments
reef tundra
That is what we call herecy
Websites
Electron
And then obscure it
Perfect combo to have no ram and performance while google dabs on the profit
He is one of us. Repeat schant untill win or something. Lol
wheat plume
Mpv and Tachiyomi
Nice choices
reef tundra
The best audio player is unpronounceable
reef tundra
Eh just rename pacage to random characters
Loop hole and now it is unpronounceable thus the best
Excuse me somsone dares to use other software than me. I am horrified. I must rdfm someone even tho he made a legit effort and only post about it. Rdfm haha.
5 minutes later banned? How to unban?
Youtube-dl?
wheat plume
reef tundra
But sonic is blue and thus cold i need him red so he goes fast.
Make playlist and download playlist
Expand beyong files
Or entire channels
wheat plume
I've had a pretty good experience with Spotify in Linux
Even got a custom theme installed for it
Is there anyway to make gnome desktop have the same window button layout as Pantheon?
X button on left and minimise on right
fair gull
most likely cause they dont write fast enough
thats usually the case if TBW arent specified
halcyon moss
Google play music is shutting down soon 😦 Are there any opther streaming services with a play queue?
pale sigil
good
it was cool back in early 2010s
cant believe im saying early 2010s
holy shit
lol
old marlin
lol
pale sigil
the idea of making your own music service was cool
but dated
and it was limited to mp3
at leas the original play music anyway
halcyon moss
still better than spotify
ashen spindle
god I hate some tech site's writes
"leaks of the 3950x succesors "4950x" spotted, it seems to be faster"
no shit
pale sigil
Lmao
wheat plume
Question: Once I am finally done with this shit af project, imma nuke windows off my laptop.
what desktop should I go with? :P I want a change from gnome and plasma
pale sigil
LanaOS
old marlin
go with ReactOS
wheat plume
unless I make an ArcoLinux spinoff, but it would end up just being shit
wheat plume
no!!
old marlin
pale sigil
TempleOS is better
wheat plume
ReactOS, windows 98 but buggy af and been in alpha builds for like 10 years and counting
pale sigil
Windows 10 ver will come in no time
wheat plume
TempleOS is mad impressive though
pale sigil
For all your spyware needs
wheat plume
:')
pale sigil
I'm sure there's a LoliOS for you
wheat plume
uh
pale sigil
You know you'd go for it
halcyon moss
plain ubuntu
wheat plume
In an anime :')
pale sigil
Huh?
wheat plume
I'm not using plain Ubuntu
pale sigil
Lana changes her name everyday m8
wheat plume
I want to use Arch Linux cause installing software is easier and it's up to date more
I did ask what desktop to suggest
Not OS
halcyon moss
stuff that doesnt matter if you have work to do :p
wheat plume
I do work xd
halcyon moss
press X
wheat plume
With software that's hard to install on Ubuntu
halcyon moss
to doubt
halcyon moss
unless its an old version of unifi 😠
wheat plume
You have PPAs
You have copy and paste commends from a website
You have to install software to install a deb package
You can use flatpak or snap
On arch you get all your stuff from the main repos or aur
Easy
wheat plume
I may try deepin desktop ....
Version 20 is new
pale sigil
Gnome is best
halcyon moss
Gnome is indeed best
pale sigil
Unity best ;)
halcyon moss
die heretic
pale sigil
This ain't slack
halcyon moss
wheat plume
I liked the HUD and global menu from unity
ashen spindle
go unity so if you ned to look for smth google will show you unity3d results :^)
wheat plume
But you can replicate that on plasma
halcyon moss
also, docks must die
pale sigil
Why
old marlin
why should docks die 
pale sigil
Better than task bars
wheat plume
I have just a panel on my desktop
wheat plume
Oh yeb
halcyon moss
docks are meant for mouse plebs
halcyon moss
Gnome has the super key :p
halcyon moss
why would you need a dock?
to see whats running? just press <super>
to switch apps? use alt tab or press <super>
halcyon moss
it just takes precious screen realestate
wheat plume
My desktop is literally just wallpaper at this point cause I made the top panel transparent
Xd
Well
The panel background
halcyon moss
SEE MY CONFUSION MrPleasant :p
wheat plume
Xd
pale sigil
Changing her name as frequent as her OS now
wheat plume
Nah xd
halcyon moss
press X to doubt
halcyon moss
im sorry what?
wheat plume
The electrical lines are shut off in the neighborhood for maintenance
pale sigil
Ours doesn't go off for maintenance
wheat plume
I woke up early to have a shower before it got switched off
pale sigil
They just go off xD
wheat plume
Ooof
halcyon moss
i've never heard of that being a thing
wheat plume
What are street lamps? We don't have those here
halcyon moss
i see 3 candles
pale sigil
Said it didn't remotely shine into my room
I sent them a picture and they said I doctored it
pale sigil
No?
ashen spindle
no shutters?
old marlin
@ashen spindle not german
pale sigil
old marlin
also I have no shutters 
ashen spindle
lol rip
pale sigil
old marlin
slowly distancing yourself from the window?
ashen spindle
We posting windows now?
ashen spindle
sorry cant see your complaints from the completely dark windows that grant me good sleep because my room is pitch plack at night
ashen spindle
I would be very scared if a car would drive through the backyard
ashen spindle
true
ashen spindle
makes sense, death stranding showed similar scaling and has the same engine
wheat plume
halcyon moss
i'm glad i got a 3700x, and not a 3600. that little bit extra will make it more future proof :p
fickle ore
yup
halcyon moss
ran into that issue wityh my previous cpu.. just below Battlefield V min spec because of the core count
old marlin
absolute optimization joke
664p, 50 % Render Scale, FoV 90, max. Details except AF and Clouds
and not even 100 fps with the most powerful cpus on the market rn
with a 2080ti
crimson wigeon
And min details?
old marlin
nah
almost max details
but this is at 664p
with 50% render scale
frametimes are shit throughout the board as well
wheat plume
VS WTF???
I have the community edition and now it says my license will expire next week
ashen spindle
... remember the last time you started to complain about it and how you "fixed" it?
wheat plume
I logged in
but I am already am logged in
VS updates are massive and I dont have the battery life rn to do this
ashen spindle
then dont update?
I severely doubt you are using anything that needs a update to VS
halcyon moss
ey be happy, my battery is dead in 2-3 hours :p
wheat plume
same
ashen spindle
then why do you even look at the update if you dont need it lol
wheat plume
it shows up automatically
in the event log, I wanted to check the size and whats added
not very informative, maybe on the website there is more info
halcyon moss
stop looking up info about the update and start working 😉
wheat plume
I cant work :') I have 3% battery on my laptop
ive been working since I woke up anyway
and when the power comes back ill start again
they are trying to upgrade power lines along this road
and some other roads nearby too
this whole week they were on the roads at various places
at least they tell you a week in advanced that they are cutting power
old marlin
lol
old marlin
you fucked it
crimson wigeon
Yes if you have transperencies on, if you're on low battery it might disable them to save on juice
wheat plume
ooohhhh
old marlin
since it uses gpu acceleration
old marlin
"windows is stupid"
crimson wigeon
How dare it try to reduce battery usage
misty pier
fox turned into a techtuber all of a sudden 🤔
frozen anchor
👀 why is the tech talk channel moved
ashen spindle
yes
frozen anchor
👍
zenith sonnet
The heck is this BS
Not even my banking app gives me my CC number
Urgh, cause I more often have my phone in reach than my wallet
It's literally 3 taps
Unlock, open app, unlock app
No, you don't
crimson wigeon
ICC code? Is there the oft talked about "make non-Intel CPUs slow" features
ashen spindle
like, this has backdoors and will be taken down by law very fast- code
ashen spindle
idk, I looked at the csgo/tf2 code leak but I aint touching this with a 10 foot pole
pale sigil
source?
pale sigil
edited my msg