#πŸ”Œβ”‚tech

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pale sigil
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I dont

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Mr Snowbird πŸ˜‰

proud nacelle
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Shush

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That's an era of a forgotten past

ashen spindle
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Yes ublock definitely works on the phone or desktop app...

proud nacelle
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I was thinking web app

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My bad

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Better Discord is probably your only choice

pale sigil
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You can be whoever you want m80

proud nacelle
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I can't

pale sigil
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see

proud nacelle
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Otherwise you will complain that you don't like calling me that name

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so :reee:

pale sigil
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Ive always called Tino Flem even though its not his name

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πŸ˜„

proud nacelle
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Fleimi it's possible

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It's just not possible with the default client only though

ashen spindle
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they could change it to have it as an option, they might just decide to not do that idk

proud nacelle
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mage why not?

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That's bullshit

ashen spindle
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if you just stop it, it wont ever cause a notification, so it never auto acknowledges them

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I mean then you just change more stuff, idc, its possible

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wtf is that retarded example

crimson wigeon
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That first excuse is dumb, just hide the notification clientside and it won't cause any added server load

proud nacelle
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Like I said

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Bullshit

fair gull
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so one you have 200 mil notifies u filter which ones are blocks and which arent

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great idea

proud nacelle
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They don't have to do anything on their fucking server!

fair gull
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that sounds like smth i wanna do everytime a notify comes in

proud nacelle
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Just do it on the fucking client

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Jesus christ

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God damn retards

fair gull
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so build a better service

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if u think you can

ashen spindle
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hell I'd even take ghost notifs over the current implementation, but there I can understand why its not done that way

proud nacelle
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@fair gull what's the point? There's plenty of already good existing services

fair gull
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so go use them

proud nacelle
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Not to mention people generally don't want to change services

fair gull
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πŸ‘‹

proud nacelle
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I could

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But then I lose all friends which don't come and use those services with me.

fair gull
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then apply at discord

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and make it better

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dont grasp for dumb excuses

proud nacelle
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Are you fucking kidding

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Never in my life

ashen spindle
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( I like how the discussion is now between two other people when I'm the one who complained lul)

fair gull
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ya so dont call them r word for doing it their way

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easy as that

proud nacelle
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Why does it matter if I call them retards or not?

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If it weren't for the fucking friends on this service I wouldn't be using it in the first fucking place

fair gull
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cause ure just some pretentious dude thinking he could do it better and then you pull back your tail when someone challenges you to be the actual change

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you can have all the complaints you want about how you dont like smth

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but dont start acting full of yourself if you dont even try to change it

ashen spindle
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did he say he could do it better though?

fair gull
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well he was clearly good enough to call them r word

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meaning he must know enough of the backend shit of how smth like this works to make it better

proud nacelle
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Even if I fucking did

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Doesn't mean I would go and fucking fix it

ashen spindle
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you can be vocal about your opinion and disagree with a choice they made without being able to do it better, it's kinda like arguing you can only criticize art if you are a better painter

fair gull
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id say calling someone dumb isnt voicing that u dont like it

proud nacelle
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Fine

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Stop being so butt hurt

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And I won't call them retards.

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I'll rephrase infact

fair gull
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just the red part

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leave it out

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then yes its just your opinion

proud nacelle
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The reasons given for the inability to hide blocks is not a very good one.

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There are indeed ways this could be done without it affecting the server.

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I don't know why he is.

pale sigil
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ite

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what happened

proud nacelle
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Tony was angry over the fact that I called the Discord developers retards.

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He said that I complain about everything yet do nothing to actually resolve the problem at hand.

pale sigil
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I mean

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He is right....

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You complain a lot

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xD

proud nacelle
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True

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But I never said that I could do better than the Discord devs.

pale sigil
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Not but you really have a grudge against Discord

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at some point you need to let it go

proud nacelle
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Correct

pale sigil
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Its logical for anyone to say that

proud nacelle
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I don't let go of my grudges.

pale sigil
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if you can do better go do it then

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Isn't guilded a clone

ashen spindle
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the discussion started from me saying I hate that a blocked persons comment isnt completely gone from the feed for me,

old marlin
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wtf is guilded

proud nacelle
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It's like facebook.

pale sigil
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it seems pointless

proud nacelle
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Everyone uses facebook because everyone uses facebook.

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So why switch.

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Dumb reason.

pale sigil
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holy crap its literally discord

fair gull
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its not discord

proud nacelle
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Sure as hell looks like it was influenced by it though

crimson wigeon
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No Linux support? Meh

proud nacelle
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^

old marlin
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what does it do different

proud nacelle
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Unless it's a webapp

reef patrol
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"guilded" - The name alone is enough to make me want to forget I heard about it πŸ˜„

pale sigil
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Ohh

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schedule is cool

proud nacelle
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Isn't guilded used in reddit too

old marlin
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what does it actually do different though

ivory geyser
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The threading is nice, Discord should add that

proud nacelle
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The word at least?

pale sigil
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Nono im not haha

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i will admit i wouldd probably switch if everyone else did

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Calandar feature alone

proud nacelle
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Good luck getting the entire population of this server to switch

pale sigil
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is so useful

old marlin
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hey

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it does something

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ig

fair gull
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@prisma crag im already offended cause discord exists am irc elitist and i only promote irc as you can see if you search through my messages

crimson wigeon
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BuT yOu CaN dO tHaT wItH bOtS

old marlin
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I have no problem with it

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but what does it actually do

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besides a calendar

proud nacelle
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I don't hve any problem either

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I was just stating that it looks heavily inspired by Discord.

pale sigil
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oh damn you have your own feed etc

crimson wigeon
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I'm all for competition

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Bring on all the chat things with their own unique features

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I just hope some still remember that people might want nice small separate windows for separate chats...

ashen spindle
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Bring on all the chat things with their own unique features
@crimson wigeon that I dont hope bc that means every one of them fails to have something thats wanted

proud nacelle
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Quintosh

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No such thing as a perfect client

pale sigil
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v

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im jel now

crimson wigeon
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Well yeah Discord VOIP is crap, and hehe if nothing is perfect then you gotta have them all installed and ready to go πŸ˜‰

proud nacelle
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People don't care bout that

pale sigil
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I like Discord a lot because of their data usage

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And tbh

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idc about voice...

fair gull
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all i care about is its close to dicksword

old marlin
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like I usae voice a lot

pale sigil
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For me Discord is perfect rn though id dlove osme small features from guilded

old marlin
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but none of that is useful to me

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and convincing other people to switch is tedious

pale sigil
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its nearly impossible

proud nacelle
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M u m b l e

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Not perfect but it's FOSS. Also self hosting.

pale sigil
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Everyone switched to Discord mostly because Skype become awful

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and TS is self hosted mostly

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or was

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Discord mashed them both

proud nacelle
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I like mumble.

pale sigil
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I know them all

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Except guilded

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till now anyway

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lets all move to slack lul

crimson wigeon
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Mumble is excellent at voice chat, a bit lacking at other things though...

pale sigil
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I love Telegram but next to no one i speak to uses it.

fair gull
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reallife is my favorioute VOIP app

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excellent sound quality

pale sigil
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mumble and ts are just

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ugh

fair gull
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and no lag

pale sigil
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dated and poop

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other than quality of voice i guess

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the newer ts is trying to be discord tho

fair gull
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@pale sigil have u seen discospeak i mean ts5

ashen spindle
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ts3 works just fine imo and ts5 does look interresting

pale sigil
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ye i have

crimson wigeon
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I think "dated" is good looking, nice and compact and doesn't try to be overly flashy

pale sigil
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i disagree

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but we are different

proud nacelle
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I'd move to mumble asap

crimson wigeon
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I don't want every single app on my computer to demand an entire monitor for itself..

proud nacelle
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Also fleimi

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Just get a pi or something

pale sigil
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huh

proud nacelle
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Or even an old laptop

crimson wigeon
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Yeah Mumble servers are quite lightweight, even a raw potato is enough for hosting one, assuming you got the bandwidth

proud nacelle
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Fleimi

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I guarantee you

ashen spindle
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cheap servers are still not free servers

proud nacelle
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Setting up a mumble server is piss easy

pale sigil
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doesn't take up my entire monitor

crimson wigeon
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Yeah and look how much space is used by fluff

pale sigil
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can also use overlay

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But text was aids

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in teamspeak

crimson wigeon
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And now imagine if you could have multiple windows and be in many places at the same time, how handy would that be

ashen spindle
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I guess thats because it's called teamSPEAK

pale sigil
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Exactly my point....

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Why bother with it when Discord does it all.

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vs ts and mumble

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yes quality alone

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is a lot less

proud nacelle
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Pleasant

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Don't be like this pls

pale sigil
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but idk why people care

proud nacelle
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Just because a service does it all doesn't mean it's good

pale sigil
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it is though, they dont share our data, it offers voice and text among other features .

proud nacelle
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Yes they do share our data

pale sigil
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No they dont.

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They dont sell or share it.

proud nacelle
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Very skeptical bout that

ashen spindle
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because the way you interact on ts vs discord is completely different, if joining means you are automatically in a voice channel you behave differently than on a discord server

proud nacelle
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Not to mention you guys have GDPR

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We don't

pale sigil
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Nothing to do with it.

ashen spindle
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well, california has budget gdpr

pale sigil
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Discord literally state this.

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Also everytime you have an issue with Discord Mage

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its always a you problem

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πŸ˜„

proud nacelle
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Everything is a me problem apparently

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I'm just used to it by now

ashen spindle
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not quite true when it was me who started this whole talk about disliking something πŸ€”

pale sigil
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Everytime mage trashes off discord its usually because he has an issue thats his side

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removed slang

proud nacelle
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He says no point to switch

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Basically

ashen spindle
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this discussion was discord not having a clean way to hide messages from blocked people, which I pointed out

pale sigil
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I know i meant in general.

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Mage always takes the opportunity to hate on discord

proud nacelle
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Mate, I will complain about everything.

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You could give me a perfect piece of software and I would still complain.

pale sigil
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either way

proud nacelle
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Also fleimi look into umurmur

pale sigil
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Discord is a blessing

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Considering how shitty it was before

proud nacelle
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It's an even more-slimmed down version of mumble server.

crimson wigeon
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Better to complain than silently accept all faults

proud nacelle
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Even easier to configure.

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I was able to get it running under two minutes.

pale sigil
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i dont remotely miss any of them programs

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TS, Mumble and Skype

ashen spindle
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I love discord because it saved us from curse voice

pale sigil
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Curse voice

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xD

proud nacelle
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Oh lord

ashen spindle
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im not joking

pale sigil
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What about Razer Comms? lul

proud nacelle
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There was another voip software it was a wolf or somethin

ashen spindle
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if discord wasnt around, twitch buying curse would've pushed that to be the default

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overwolf?

pale sigil
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ye overworld

proud nacelle
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don't remember by heart

pale sigil
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it used TS on it

ashen spindle
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think thats a plugin for TS now

pale sigil
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Discord Overlay is decent.

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I just wish destinys anti cheat didn't block it

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Ye im aware.

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i used it for a while

ashen spindle
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anyway I like ts, have it free on my server anyway, nice backup if discord shits itself again

pale sigil
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That

proud nacelle
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Also overlays are kinda pointless to be tbh.

ashen spindle
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and being forced to talk instead of silence text chat from time to time is nice

pale sigil
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I can complain about....

proud nacelle
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Alt+tabbing still exists

pale sigil
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ye i used to just chill in voice channels for hours

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@proud nacelle Alt tabbing during a raid pepesweat

proud nacelle
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Piss easy

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Just run borderless

ashen spindle
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alt tab? full screen source engine wants a word with you

proud nacelle
pale sigil
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Hehehehe

proud nacelle
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source has borderless fyi

pale sigil
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Source is poop

ashen spindle
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yes and borderless is not full screen

proud nacelle
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I'd consider it fullscreen

ashen spindle
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guess you dont want the extra performance then

proud nacelle
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Mate

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Fullscreen does not give you a performance boost.

pale sigil
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I don’t use borderless much these days

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It does

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Actually does

proud nacelle
pale sigil
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And can prevent stuttering

proud nacelle
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Not even joking

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Fullscreen has just given me more problems

reef patrol
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Borderless ftw

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Gotta have my insta alt tab πŸ˜„

proud nacelle
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^

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Alt tab is a god send

reef patrol
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ADHD brain. I have four things going on at the same time. xD

ashen spindle
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I use borderless for non intense games where I do that, but in csgo and such I'd prefer a better game

reef patrol
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I have never noticed a difference.

ashen spindle
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it depends on the game and the resolution you run it on

reef patrol
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shrug

proud nacelle
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1920x1080 at 60hz at 16:9.

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Never had a problem borderless.

crimson wigeon
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On Windows I notice a difference because borderless goes through DWM enforcing vsync which I don't always want

reef patrol
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No Veesync either πŸ˜„

proud nacelle
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No vsync for me either

ashen spindle
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I meant the resolution of the game vs the native screen resolution

proud nacelle
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The only thing I HAVE noticed is running multiple monitors.

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BUT

reef patrol
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Why would you run a game at anything other than native? (I'm staring you CSGO nerds down) πŸ˜„

proud nacelle
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That is fixable!

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Just disable hardware acceleration in the program you're running on your other monitor, problem resolved.

ashen spindle
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because higher resolution for super sampling causes the same issues, not just lower res

proud nacelle
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Tbf

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Actually no

reef patrol
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That's just bad game development then.

urban lynx
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has near 2,000h in csgo
sure mansen didnt mean her

proud nacelle
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I've used that supersampling shit from geforce

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Never had a problem

ashen spindle
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yes its not costing you 50fps or anything and win10 also made it a lot better when it comes to input latency

urban lynx
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i dont even know if i run csgo in fullscreen or borderless... i havent done anything to the settings for near 4 years now

reef patrol
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I always heard from my former boss that CSGO nerds use 800x600 with lowest settings, on giant screens right up close. So they can see the 4 inch enemy pixels xD

ashen spindle
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but there is a difference

urban lynx
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i run it native tbf

proud nacelle
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I run native

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I tried using smaller resolutions but

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just

urban lynx
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doesnt change that i'm crap at the game πŸ˜‚

proud nacelle
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kill me

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smaller resolutions makes you want to die

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only time smaller resolutions are better is if you have a crt

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which don't exist anymore.

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not to mention your fov gets fucked

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also hud/ui elements

urban lynx
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yeah. i always notice with my friend, who often plays on 4:3 res, that he doesnt see enemies on the far left or right because of that

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in return, i dont see some on the upper or lower side

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a lot of times it's b fleimi πŸ˜…

proud nacelle
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B

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Just get a bigger monitor instead

urban lynx
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for me? I think having a screen that isn't an office monitor from over a decade ago might help eventually

proud nacelle
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[laughs in second hand monitors]

urban lynx
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... at work i have the same fucking monitor as i do now...

proud nacelle
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Literally less than $10 bucks

urban lynx
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actually no, i have a newer one at work. think the second or third predecessor of mine

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but looks nearly identical

ashen spindle
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you're all playing it worse than me anyway, I just get carried by friends who are way too good at the game gloryEZ

proud nacelle
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Tbh

urban lynx
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i only ever had two monitors

proud nacelle
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I can't even imagine spending that much on a monitor

urban lynx
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a big, cubey boy from ages ago, and this one, that came out 2007 or so?

proud nacelle
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more than $100 on a monitor is insane

urban lynx
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i have a nice 1680x1050 res :3

ashen spindle
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spending less than 200 on a monitor if you have a 2k pc makes little sense

proud nacelle
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I want my fucking CCFL monitors back

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As well as my CRTs

ashen spindle
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spending 500 on a monitor if your pc is 400 it makes little sense

proud nacelle
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Nope

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I can't find a single one

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I can only find CCFLs now and LEDs

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Mate trust me

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I've looked

urban lynx
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totally didnt spent north of 1k for her computer, and it def. did not go into the gpu yet

proud nacelle
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I can find laptops for less than $5

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But can't find a crt.

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Online for sure

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But locally? hell no.

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You crazy

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Shipping costs + chance of it breaking

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Not to mention the price

urban lynx
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went to ebay. entered "crt monitor" and there is a bunch below 100€

proud nacelle
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Definitively not what I'm seeing

urban lynx
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some even for free, if you go and get it

proud nacelle
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Yeah no

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I don't see anything like that

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Also another problem with CRTs is the phosphor burn in

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That shit isn't fixable

urban lynx
proud nacelle
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de

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I'm in Canada

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On a potato island

urban lynx
proud nacelle
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Still

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I look every once in a while

reef patrol
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πŸ‘€

urban lynx
proud nacelle
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mate

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that's ontario

urban lynx
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mate.
that's a list. of a lot of listings across all sorts of regions

proud nacelle
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not if it's down the block

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as long as it's on the island i could more or less not give a shit

urban lynx
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so where do you live?

proud nacelle
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POTATO ISLAND

urban lynx
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that is the name?

proud nacelle
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PEI

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christ

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And before you say oh there is a listing here today

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Don't

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Our car is broke.

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Battery died

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Then the alternator

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Then the starter

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And now we don't know what shit is broke on it

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I swear by god

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Ask @pale sigil

urban lynx
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i mean, i guess you cant just call there and ask them to reserve one for you that you'll pick it up at a later date or something.
but too difficult to communicate with humans i assume

proud nacelle
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eh

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definitively could do that

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problem is dunno how long the car will be out

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fleimi

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I swear by god

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The sheer amount of shit we've gotten in the past 3 years

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Makes me want to die

urban lynx
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also... isnt potato island apparently in the province of ontario? or does yours not exist on google maps? πŸ€”

proud nacelle
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what

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mate

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I said PEI

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Oh shit

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That's an actual place?

urban lynx
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it is

proud nacelle
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What the fuck, Canada lul

urban lynx
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also in conneticut too btw

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but i figured that wasnt the one

proud nacelle
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@digital cliff I'm serious though

urban lynx
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ah prince edward island?

proud nacelle
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Yes

urban lynx
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... oh wow. this is embarassing considering I've been in connecticut πŸ˜‚

proud nacelle
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I mean fleimi you can think I'm a liar

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But I ain't

urban lynx
reef patrol
proud nacelle
reef patrol
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Lot of people would kill for those.

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For casemods or arcades xD

urban lynx
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35$ Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

proud nacelle
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Good find

urban lynx
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seems to be tft i think

proud nacelle
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But like I said

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Car machine broke.

urban lynx
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πŸš•

proud nacelle
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Not an option

urban lynx
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and probably no friends around nearby willing for an hour or so i assume

urban lynx
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i powerwashed my car earlier today

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then i accidentally sprayed against the wall of my parking space and figured it was dirty

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4 hours later and i had a fresh looking parking space, but my car was dirty again because i forgot to park it away until midway through

proud nacelle
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This chat is a disaster

urban lynx
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i'd keep looking for a damn crt monitor on your island, but the next option would be facebook, and i do my best to stay way from that hell hole

proud nacelle
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Facebook ain't a problem, relative has one so I just borrow theirs

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But I am looking when I can

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On the discussion of CRT's : Windflyback transformers, anyway to silence the little shits?

urban lynx
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no idea

wheat plume
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Why do Linux phones run on gnome desktop? that shit needs a lot of ram....and these phones have only 2GB

proud nacelle
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lul never thought I would hear Lana say that.

wheat plume
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Gnome is notoriously ram hungry

mostly because it tries to keep as much of the desktop in ram as it can to reduce animation stutters and be responsive

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but on phones.... with 2GB ram then that is an issue

proud nacelle
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Really wish CRTs had replacable phosphor layers.

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Would make them good for the ages.

plucky bone
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Yo

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What are you guys' take on using alternative grease to 205g0?

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To lube switches

urban lynx
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@proud nacelle time to kickstart "modern" crt's GWvictoriaMeguFace

ashen spindle
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ok I am very happy and very sad

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intel 7nm is also borked and already pushed back 6-12 months

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so rip intel, thank fuck we have amd now for cpus

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but also rip competition from intel then

proud nacelle
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@urban lynx I wish. If it were the case, I'd hop on it ASAP.

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Also how long has intel have borked nm's?

ashen spindle
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the only issue they ever had was something on the >22nm iirc but only for short time

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then 10nm

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for uh, close to 4 years now?

proud nacelle
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Exactly

ashen spindle
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with the first desktop cpu coming on 10nm++ Q4 20201

proud nacelle
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They should just cut their losses asap.

ashen spindle
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but so far we had 0 indication 7nm had any issues

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and how should they do that?

proud nacelle
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I'm not sure

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But it seems they are fighting a losing battle

urban lynx
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friend of mine keeps on raving about intel cpu's...

ashen spindle
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no it seems to mostly just be non-tech savy management fucking shit up

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bc no good communication

proud nacelle
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Didn't the CEO step down too?

ashen spindle
#

yes but unrelated

proud nacelle
#

Jesus I kinda feel sad for Intel

ashen spindle
#

sure officially that was one of the points but just on paper

proud nacelle
#

They need to get their stuff together.

#

Because without competition it will become a monopoly and there will no longer be any progress.

ashen spindle
#

well, jim keller is gone too bc personal reasons+ him and murphy didnt get allong

#

oh dont worry, if amd will not progress, we just have a sudden switch from x86 to arm

proud nacelle
#

RIP all old games though.

#

Unless they can be emulated.

ashen spindle
#

easily, not new ones right at the switch, but older ones no prob

proud nacelle
#

Also it would be nice if we switched to risc or something else instead of arm

#

But just switching from x86 would be a start

ashen spindle
#

holy shit

#

I just realized

#

nvidia is approaching softbank

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to buy arm

proud nacelle
#

ah hell no

ashen spindle
#

so nvidia cpus might suddenly be the best if amd makes an intel

proud nacelle
#

I don't want NVIDIA buying arm.

#

They are already anti-competition

urban lynx
#

...

ashen spindle
#

and I think that's what people think at first, but hear me out

#

they know that wont work with the ARM part

#

two main reasons imo

#

if lets say apple wants to not deal with the nvidia changes they just fork the ISA they ahve so far and make theiy own arm variant

#

and nvidia will lose all options of any control beyond basic licensing for a penny

#

two, they mostly need it for interconnection for their gpus. like they did with mellanox, so they need it to grow to be worth

#

and I guess 3rd, iit owuld be 40b$ + with only a revenue of <2b$ the last years per fiscal year

proud nacelle
#

Well I hope you're right

ashen spindle
#

so locking it down and losing more money would actually kill them

proud nacelle
#

Because last thing we need is arm becoming a locked down platform

ashen spindle
#

man I would've bought amd despite the already high price if I would've known that before

#

stock already jumped

#

intel has a investors call and after that AMD's stock jumps 5%, thats how you know intel lostr

ashen spindle
#

oh wow

#

nvidia arm cpus

#

with integrated nvidia gpu as a killer igpu

#

I think it wont happen bc monoply regulations probably stop it from going through

plucky bone
#

Oh, so would battery life become longer on laptops then?

#

Thats cool

crimson wigeon
#

So.... Tegra?

ashen spindle
#

kinda but not really

#

also its all speculation, deal might just not happen or they just make it for small cooperation etc.

pale sigil
#

f

reef patrol
#

πŸ‘€

thick elk
#

I don't know if Nvidia would even be allowed to buy arm

ashen spindle
#

depending on certain clauses I'm certain EU and NA allow it, china maybe not as they were the ones that took forever to allow the mellanox aquisition

thick elk
#

It will at the very least be a complicated matter. Especially considering how widespread ARM is used.

#

I also expect other chip makers to not like the buyout in gernal, who knows we may see an combined offer by multiple tech companies to prevent arm from falling into just nvidia's hands

ashen spindle
#

meh I dont see that being the case

#

seeing as apple already announced they have no interest in the ordeal and they are big in on arm now

warped dove
#

What's in it for arm apart from a huge cash influx?

thick elk
#

Apple uses it's own chip designs for gpu and cpu completely and does not depend on any new arm designs / licenses for the most part

ashen spindle
#

yes and so do most big companies that use arm

thick elk
#

Softbank the owner of ARM, arm has no say itself

warped dove
#

Don't they already get mad bucks from snapdragon and all the other licensers, this will just curtail their growth

#

ah fuk cash is everything

ashen spindle
#

softbank bought arm for 32 billion and have not made that back yet even close

warped dove
#

Rumours of the nvidia offer $$$?

ashen spindle
#

no clue

urban lynx
#

but EU prevented some shipping company to buy the TNT company because of "too much elimination of competition or something"

#

i think ups?

#

idk

ashen spindle
#

they are not competing companies

urban lynx
#

now FedEx bought up TNT and the drivers are in the process of changing uniforms and car decals this year or so

#

who isnt?

ashen spindle
#

nvidia and arm

urban lynx
#

ah

warped dove
#

microsoft should sell linkedin and buy arm xD

ashen spindle
#

dont think that alone is worth enough

#

gloryKeK also, meanwhile at intel it seems they are truly fucked, it sounds like ponte vecchio might not even use their own 7nm put external aka TSMC

warped dove
#

it was bought for almost 30 bil

ashen spindle
#

ok and who would be up to buy it for that much or more

thick elk
#

From what I heard this may also have something to do with intel buying off amd gpu people who are more familiar with tsmc as well.

warped dove
#

I dunno because it's fucking worthless lol

ashen spindle
#

also what would ms do with ARM, they would need to restructure it to make money since the current plan under softbank doesn't work and they dont really have any people working in that area

warped dove
#

But the big M$ boys have over 100 bil in liquid cash right now

#

if ARM stays relevant for another decade, this would be their best acquisitions ever

ashen spindle
#

you dont just buy random companies that have no direct integration with your product stack as a non-invenstment focused company, like softbank, if it takes >20 years to go even on the deal if it works out

warped dove
#

mobile devices are only getting better, the question is will they explode in usage or just chug along at current underwhelming rates

#

Microsoft invests in technology

#

shockingly arm is technology

ashen spindle
#

just because snapdragon/apple/etc. use arm's ISA in their processors, doesnt mean a bigger success related directly to more money for arm themselves

warped dove
#

No, I'd only make sense if microsoft started to invest in fabrication too and become the next samsung

#

no i.e. I agree

#

currently microsoft is making its dollars from cloud

#

the big steps to reducing their costs are dedicated chips and energy bills

ashen spindle
#

at that point might as well go for AMD

warped dove
#

lisa certainly wouldn't allow it

#

she's pretty proud right now

ashen spindle
#

thats not how a publicly traded company works xD

warped dove
#

I knew you'd say that

#

but infact AMDs rise has been pretty unique in how it's been a revelation of leadership

#

without that it might go the way of intel with its leadership and greed mistakes in the last few years

#

would investors be willing to restructure AMD now ... don't think so

ashen spindle
#

change of ownership does not equate to change of anything else

warped dove
#

well my pitch was microsoft needs dedicated hardware for cloud and your suggestion was make AMD do it, sounds like some big changes to me

ashen spindle
#

not really, just adding another option to the semi custom solution is all that would end up being

#

like they are already working with big cloud and co to tune their server parts to what those companies need

warped dove
#

worries in gamer

ashen spindle
#

???

#

thats how it has always worked in both intel and amd

#

and nvidia

warped dove
#

I'm just saying that has profits shift to enterprise rather than entertainment consumer, consumers get shafted oh hello nvidia

ashen spindle
#

but thats not a shift, that's how cpus have always worked, enterprise first

#

we only might see more stuff like rdna/cdna that amd announced, with a split to optimize better for each market

#

nvidia did a similar thing with volta/turing

ashen spindle
#

I've never listened in to an earnings call before but this one is interresting, intel being more open than ever but it's just shit lmao

wheat plume
#

Thinkpads have the fanciest looking BIOS ever

#

its like a modern day application holy shit

warped dove
#

Interested. Show vid

#

I wanna wait til thunderbolt 4 (for controllers that work on AMD) but might have to get an e14 before then for work

ashen spindle
#

tb4 > lol

warped dove
#

ok smelly read my edit

ashen spindle
#

there is nothing that stops it from working on amd

warped dove
#

that's not the issue

#

the issue is that there's currently not laptop with modern AMD cpus that -does- have thunderbolt 3 support

#

sorry

#

fixed

ashen spindle
#

bc that is still locked isn't it?

warped dove
#

but at the end of this year there will be host and perhip chips that enable it

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for TB4 which will also have minimum requires pushed more strictly

ashen spindle
#

fun fact, intel trying to act like you need some security to support tb4 when amd does that part better than they do lol

warped dove
#

which probably also means the end of proprietary chargers for anything under 60W thank fuck

#

but more importantly, external GPU and good usb-c hub support on excellent AMD CPUs

warped dove
#

link doesn't lead to img either

ashen spindle
#

usually twitter links also show the picture from the tweet

warped dove
#

do they mean accelerating production or like... accelerators

ashen spindle
#

accelerating the development

warped dove
#

convincing

ashen spindle
#

hearing the intel CEO being flustered bc people are not happy with more delays is amazing lmao

warped dove
#

did you see this report last year

#

the execs literally looked like they were having a breakdown on stage

#

shuffling nervously, picking themselves, looks literally afraid. It's was pretty sad

ashen spindle
#

LMAO the ending music is like some opera song that sounds like the play is crashing down

#

nah I usually just read the analysis of it from smarter people than me

#

but this one is so easy I had to listen in myself haha

#

cant wait to read more about this tomorrow when in depth articles about stuff is out

warped dove
#

Did they mention anything about IO chips like thunderbolt and WiFi AX?

#

The only reason I don't shit on intel is because they actually bring some important and extremely good secondary products

#

that isn't supposed to be brand locked

ashen spindle
#

m8 they had to explain a 12 month-beyond schedule 7nm process and lowered guidence for the rest of the year, nobody cares about thunderbolt atm xD

#

this was an earnings call not a CES talk

warped dove
#

ah lame

#

guess their actual innovations don't make significant money

ashen spindle
#

it does, but its not the part that causes 20 billion revenue in a quarter lmao

#

hey, at least now it makes more sense for the US to want a TSMC fab to open right next to intel, poach intel people and have them work at a company that can make stuff work lmao

#

holy shit I think AMD stock is at an all time high LMAO

ashen spindle
proud nacelle
ashen spindle
#

+8 % causing the highest price ever vs 10% down gloryKeK

wheat plume
#

I'm glad they are doing more and more Linux things honestly

pale sigil
#

They've been pretty interested for a long time

wheat plume
#

Yeah!

pale sigil
#

Epically when luke was around

#

As he would always use mint

wheat plume
#

It's consistent in their videos lately though

#

Like gaming and temple OS and now Linux hardware

pale sigil
#

Well ye mostly because Linux isn't as useless as it was vs 2 years ago

wheat plume
empty wren
#

Nice to see happening, almost like Apple

sacred shoal
#

@ashen spindle what happened?

timid chasm
#

lol my buddy is annoyed that the IT dept at his work is claiming that one PC is super slow because its never restarted and has more documents on it than they other

#

My buddy restarts it every night and it has 600mb worth of documents πŸ˜‚

proud nacelle
#

@pale sigil wym "useless 2 years ago"?

#

Is it possible for a fan to get tired and start slowing down in a course of a day by chance? By fan I mean fan on a CPU heatsink.

timid chasm
#

I would say if it were bad

#

but normally I wouldn't think it would just start slowing down unless it's a 4 pin and told to slow down

proud nacelle
#

Nah I forced it on turbo and it seems to be slowing down.

timid chasm
#

or unless a lot of resistance has appeared to bog it down

proud nacelle
#

That could explain why

#

But I don't get why it would be instant

timid chasm
#

I've never known of any type or average fan to just slow down

#

maybe its power draw is inconsistent?

proud nacelle
#

Well

#

Whatever be the case, I'm gonna clean up the fins tommorow.

#

If it's still slow by then I'll have to purchase a new fan I suppose.

timid chasm
#

I've definitely had fans wind down but over the period of a long time

#

never just a difference over the course of 1 day

#

I guess bearings could play a role as well but I'm not sure

proud nacelle
#

It's definitively odd to say the very least

sacred shoal
#

@timid chasm I'm not sure why having a lot of documents on it would slow it down

#

unless there's a lot of other problems and it's running out of paged memory

proud nacelle
#

Pardon my ignorance but what do you mean "feel" the bearing?

sacred shoal
#

resistance to it turning

proud nacelle
#

Ah

#

I can try that.

timid chasm
#

@sacred shoal Yeah I'm sure it has 0 to do with the fact that 1 cpu is a 4570 and the other is a 9500 and that the other parts are likely equally old

sacred shoal
#

that's nothing

#

the lab I interned at 3 years ago had a computer running vista with 4Gb of ram and a 64Gb HDD

timid chasm
#

good lord

sacred shoal
#

32Gb of which was filled with old update files

#

because vista is an amazing OS

timid chasm
#

I assume these hdd's are all networks but not 100%. I just know he has to use it for tests and doing CT scans

sacred shoal
#

that's one of the things I think is hilarious

#

a lot of factory equipment runs windows

#

it has no right to

#

the only plausible explanation I can think of is "their only GUI designer wanted to work with visual studio"

#

but I feel an inner pang of agony whenever I boot up a flow wrapper and see the windows 8 boot screen

#

like why

#

it has a gui straight from the 90s

#

but it runs a full copy of windows 8

#

you see it automatically logging in as an administrator account too

old marlin
#

anybody got a clue how long sTRX4 is supposed to be supported with new processors?

ashen spindle
#

we dont know

#

I think the zen3 version will fit in it aswell, based on the part ram/pcie gens stay the same and zen4 prob has an upgrade in one of the areas

#

but untill we know about milan or detailed zen3 specs I dont think we can say for sure

#

you looking at using it at work or smth?

old marlin
#

Nah

#

Brother is thinking about going HEDT

ashen spindle
#

for what specific workloads?

old marlin
#

very heavy MC workloads

#

TR actually makes sense for him to get

ashen spindle
#

ok, what I meant, remember threadripper pro exists now if encryption/more memory is a concern

#

I trust you to know enough if TR makes sense :p

old marlin
#

nah no such concerns

wheat oar
#

When will the wooting two lekker edition be released?

ashen spindle
#

and there is no need to ask the same thing in multiple channels

ashen spindle
#

@old marlin amd earnings call is in 4 days, we might hear news there

old marlin
#

kk

ashen spindle
#

im loving these memes shitting on intels fabs gloryKeK

#

14nm+++++++++++

graceful cipher
#

Manjaro vs Ubuntu

#

You have 2h

ashen spindle
#

intel stock is now down 17% gloryKeK

#

man im enjoying this way too much for not having any stock in amd lmao

#

it used to be that amd stock price was nowhere near intel's, despite intel having so many more shares and thus each one of them having less value

old marlin
#

7nm got delayed again dogeKek

ashen spindle
#

not again, that the first issue we heard of it

#

but its a 12 month issue :p

#

the call basically confirmed intel is fucked for the next 5 years

#

and if they go back after that or make a titanic depends on how fast they can throw out the current management

old marlin
#

fml how can the new vodafone routers be so bad

#

friend had unitymedia as an ISP, after they got bought he got a new vodafone router

#

and since then he constantly cuts out in VC

ashen spindle
#

funny you mention that

#

similar here (I upgraded so needed the vodafone station) and I notice on my phone the wifi keeps disconnecting for a few seconds couple times during the day

old marlin
#

nah he just got it forced on

fair gull
#

i use my vodafone tower shit thing as modem only

old marlin
#

another friend had that situation a while ago

#

same problems

#

not as bad though

#

well he is directly connected via lan

#

and has those problems

fair gull
#

they are passable as pure modems only problem is no ipv6

ashen spindle
#

yea was considering getting a good router but it just goes against my grain, bc there is no reason I should need one

#

the basis product should just not be shit

old marlin
#

and the old one was just fine

fair gull
#

eh no router an isp could offer would satisfy me

ashen spindle
#

you can still upsell your fritzbox contracts without making the base station just having issues

fair gull
#

not even a nice fritzbox 7590

old marlin
#

he had a lower end fritzbox before

#

worked fine though

ashen spindle
#

I had the unitymedia connectbox and that worked just fine

fair gull
#

id basically just try to get a modem on my next isp

old marlin
#

yea gl with that

fair gull
#

which ik i wont need since they only do modem and then sell you dirt cheap fritzboxes

#

fritzbox 7590 for 160€

#

which i obviously opted out of

#

@old marlin its fibre so they have to send me a modem

#

no matter what

#

shittiest router one could get

#

all i read online are complaints

ashen spindle
#

yup thats the one

old marlin
#

that is what most people get

fair gull
#

im super glad the pure modem mode actually works fine with ipv4

#

no cutting out or anything

#

idk why my uplaod is so damn high allday tho

ashen spindle
#

what router do you use with it

fair gull
#

ubiquiti unifi security gateway pro 4

#

and then unifi ap nano for wifi

#

and a unifi 24port switch

#

for all the ethernet needs

old marlin
#

well wouldn't change anything in my friends case

ashen spindle
#

ok so something a bit overkill if I need to get one gloryKeK

fair gull
#

i mean there is the security gateway

old marlin
#

since he is directly plugged in via lan to the router

fair gull
#

the small one

#

and u can easily use any other ap and switch

#

just liked the software ubiquiti offers

#

and pmuch flawless operation

#

@old marlin im aswell

#

except i only use it as modem

#

so i can either use 1ethernet device

#

or plug in my own router

#

which is what i did

old marlin
#

so your setup wouldn't do a thing for him

fair gull
#

ofc it would

old marlin
#

unless it is so crap at being a router

fair gull
#

set his tg to modem

#

done

#

and just spend like 500 or 600€ on better networking shit

#

lol

old marlin
#

lol

fair gull
#

the router itself

#

switch

#

and access point

old marlin
#

he won't need a switch dogeKek

#

still too expensive

fair gull
#

ud go with a small gateway in normie cases

#

sad they dont make router/modem combos

#

basically this was the main reason i went with complete unifi

#

and not just router and switch

#

1 ap multiple wifis

#

because i alweys bottlenecked my old fritzbox

old marlin
#

if a fritzbox isn't enough for home use that is basically what you have to go to

fair gull
#

fritzbox didnt like switching about 6gbps of packets

#

not on a single port

#

routers usually only provide full 1gbps in one direction each port

#

so a fritzbox can max like 4 or 5gbps total

#

this switch can do 26-62gbps of total switching capacity depending on configuration like packet analysis etc

#

for example stuff like this

#

(example shown is router only bottleneck)

#

the new planned usg with 10gbps ports can do full 10gbps while this is enabled

#

yes

#

mainly syncing nas systems

#

and other devices

#

just buy an old pc

#

a raid card

#

done

#

way cheaper and the same

#

pop in ssd on onboard sata

#

plug in drives to raid card

#

linux onto ssd

#

headless

#

you now have a nas that was cheaper and is prob faster

#

thats why theres freenas and openvault

#

and stuff

#

no need to know how to operate

#

u get a nice web gui

#

ugly

#

yes

#

but cost efective

#

cause an empty synology 4 bay nas can easily cost 150-200€

old marlin
#

freenas is laughably easy to use

crimson wigeon
#

But why does looks matter just shove it into some closet or something

fair gull
#

and has like 2gb of ram

#

and like 4 shit cores

#

and 1 gig ethernet

old marlin
#

@crimson wigeon you won't have a PSU dying and then have expensive support fees

fair gull
#

easily beat by some old office pc

#

and ya nas systems are stupid expensive to get fixed

old marlin
#

and often have PSU failures

fair gull
#

ud need that for a normal nas aswell?

#

it has the same plug as pc

#

and makes the same noise

#

just smaller

#

overlooked him completely

#

lol

crimson wigeon
#

Then make one x d

fair gull
#

ya just attach a closet to your wall outside your house or hand one from the ceiling

crimson wigeon
#

Well isn't that what those tiny homes do

fair gull
#

tbf tino i asked u the whole cutting 2x2 shit because i wanna build a new closet out of wood

#

server closet that is

#

i mean u saw my current attempt

#

power screwing the shit

#

but its rollable

#

and usually racks dont have that

#

when u update switch firmware

#

and get a warning

dry night
#

It's a Raspberry PI3

#

Get it?

#

Cuz PI3 is like PIE but then it's also like Raspberry PI 3 but the picture is a raspberry PIE

#

So good at comedy

old marlin
frozen anchor
#

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

lmao

#

i want that anime gpu heatsink now

old marlin
#

gl

#

pretty expensive to get

#

or are you US?

frozen anchor
#

yeah im US

old marlin
#

yea should be cheaper then

#

it;s a yeston 5700XT waifu

#

Yeston RX 5700 XT Sakura Hitomi

#

stupid thing is

#

the image is on the wrong way

#

if you install it

#

it will be upside down if you look down on it

#

pepega design

frozen anchor
#

lmao

#

its funny how disgusted this reviewer seems when talking about anime stuff

old marlin
#

he's probably as pissed about pink being the third color option as I am

crimson wigeon
#

disgusting

ashen spindle
#

fucking weebs

#

goes back to watching anime

old marlin
#

true

urban lynx
#

what's wrong with pink?

#

i'm honestly upset that there wasnt really any good pink or purple options for like, anything when building my pc

#

meh.

#

guess all i have left is using rgb fans and set them to pink and purple constantly

old marlin
#

I'd prefer a nice dark blue

#

over black white and pink

ivory geyser
#

BECAUSE PINK IS UGLY! lul

#

HERESY

old marlin
#

omg

#

zowie actually did something different for once

urban lynx
#

not a big fan of green either, but it ended up being on my collar

urban lynx
#

an air compressor?
why would i have one?

#

my grandpa has one in his workshop though... πŸ€”

#

he also has a welding thingy

#

honestly kinda hoping i'll inherit that eventually

#

he already is too feeble to use the stuff himself... GWvickyKannaPeek

#

the whole barn is in disarray since he cant really do stuff by himself anymore actually

#

as in, chaotic inside

#

i just wanna play around with the tools a little tbh πŸ™ƒ

reef patrol
raw steeple
#

i already knew waifu

#

lol

fair gull
#

why tho

#

i geth the iced milk tea but the waifu pc thing esplodes my mind

shadow minnow
reef patrol
#

Big oeuf

ashen spindle
#

yes, you missed that talk when it happend here

shadow minnow
#

I mean, their 7nm can be more dense than TSMC’s 5nm (as their 10 should have been more dense than 7nm TSMC), bust still all these delays...

ashen spindle
#

yea but means nothing if 7nm works when tsmc is at 3nm...

shadow minnow
shadow minnow
lofty lintel
#

can i use a hairdryer to dry my keycaps?

frozen anchor
#

if they are abs i wouldnt risk it

#

you can just smack them against a towel or something like that to get water out of the stem

lofty lintel
#

i s .- mmmmmmmmm

#

what are the best keycaps? was it abs or pbs?

frozen anchor
#

pps is best but pbt is the most common for a step up from abs

#

as far as durability its something like abs -> pbt -> pom -> pps

lofty lintel
#

there is literally no market for mechanical keyboards in germany

#

ffs

#

i dont want to import from the corona states of america

frozen anchor
#

lol

frozen anchor
#

idk im seeing a bunch of pbt sets on amazon germany

lofty lintel
#

i see a nice keyboard on amazon. do you know if epomaker is a good manufacturer?

frozen anchor
#

no clue

#

hmm it looks like they make akko kbs so it should be fine

#

probably nothing crazy though

lofty lintel
#

what is akko?

frozen anchor
#

a kb brand

#

their kbs are decent

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not sure how they would stand up against something like leopold though

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they must be really new i cant find any info about them

vagrant inlet
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Can someone be so kind and link me some Qwerty ISO pudding keycaps

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German layout

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I had a link but i lost it because I was in incognito

frozen anchor
old marlin
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nope

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afaik german ISO pudding only exists on hyperx prebuilts for now

zenith sonnet
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Anyone know some good DP cables?

pale sigil
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any

fair gull
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well not so fast

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some dp cables dont do 4k 60fps

reef patrol
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Unless you need super specific, high bandwidth... any πŸ˜„

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Gauge is key

zenith sonnet
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What's 2560x1440 144Hz 10bit? Some 20-22 Gbps or so
I know, gauge and good shielding. The question is, how do you find the good ones?

frozen anchor
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any cable that has what you need is good enough

zenith sonnet
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Not really, not all cables are made equally

pale sigil
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No IPD?....

vagrant inlet
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@old marlin and what about ANSI?

old marlin
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easily available

vagrant inlet
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Can u link me some?

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Like either im blind

old marlin
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any pudding keycaps are the same

vagrant inlet
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Or im too lazy

frozen anchor
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just search pudding keycaps thay are all over amazon

lofty lintel
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are there also some without any print?

frozen anchor
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dont think so

old marlin
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don't think there are pudding blanks

vagrant inlet
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I saw blanks on hyperx

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Blank pudding keycaps

frozen anchor
zenith sonnet
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Updated BIOS

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RAM still running 2133

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R20 went up πŸ€”

nova carbon
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wooting uses cherry stabilizers right?

reef patrol
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Yep

ashen spindle
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....why did coolermaster need a kickstarter for making a new case?

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they are not a tiny company

reef patrol
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Like Calder explained the other day - To ensure pre-orders.

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Several keyboard manufacters do this as well where it's essentially just pre-order services without paying DROP or someone else.

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Though in the Rpie4 case...case I can sort of get it.

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Very untested market - Makes sense to want to have guaranteed funding before proceeding.

ashen spindle
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oh it was posted here already? mustve missed it

reef patrol
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Naw. Keyboards were linked and there was a discussion a while ago πŸ˜„

ashen spindle
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also, ehhhh, if it was funded in one hour I'm sure a really simple survey or smth could've told them there was enough interrest

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but not gonna bring up something that was already discussed recently

shadow minnow