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short cove
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Lmfao

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2 years old

thick elk
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if it's a bit less than that in Europe at least it should certainly be within warranty and even then it should not fail like that.

short cove
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Actually I have a clue as to what may have happened

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The power adapter light went off

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So I tried to replug it

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And it started smoking

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I suspect it's a power failure

thick elk
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What happened is a short, that's for sure

short cove
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Seems like it

thick elk
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the question is what caused it

short cove
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I'll take the bottom cover off

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Tmr

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It's night rn so I'll go check it out later

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At least it didn't fry my fucking monitor

ashen spindle
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4600 is probably the best bet yes but hard to say without them being announced haha

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also no, the console prices are not known yet @digital cliff

short cove
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The burning is from within the PC

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The plug is fine

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So there's that

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I disconnected the adapter for the time being

ashen spindle
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@digital cliff where did you read the 1k price?

fair gull
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the internet

short cove
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Well I have 2 options

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I guess?

crimson wigeon
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that's just typical verkkokauppa tho, who even buys for that price

fair gull
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id buy a launch switch for 1k

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if its sealed

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fud?

wheat plume
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trashcan PC!

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I need to check what the 4XL costs

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€729 :O

empty wren
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yes

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prices can get more ridiculous depending where you live

wheat plume
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the 3A is €330 though

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so €406 including import fee 🤔

empty wren
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probably a better deal

wheat plume
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Yeah!

empty wren
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or you can wait until the 4a comes out

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which will be soon

wheat plume
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I want to wait until this phone is no longer working

empty wren
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oh then great

wheat plume
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I think that will be soon though cause Android 11 wont be coming to it

empty wren
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but you use custom firmwres

wheat plume
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even with custom roms unless someone ports vendors from another device

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RN all roms for my phone have the original vendors and things from Xiaomi

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but once 11 comes around we cant get them anymore for this phone

empty wren
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yeah and they can continue to

wheat plume
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how? if Xiaomi arent making them anymore for htis phone

empty wren
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my nexus 6p runs old low level stuff

wheat plume
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they will have to port from another xiaomi phone

empty wren
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and still runs new versions

wheat plume
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hmm

empty wren
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they may need to optimize in the kernel

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and make it compatible

wheat plume
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yeah, a port basically

crimson wigeon
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Yeah the community wizards will make it work... somehow..

empty wren
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yeah and the low level stuff is not touched

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like your vendor partition or wherever you have it

wheat plume
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I downloaded 11 GSI yesterday

empty wren
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did it work

wheat plume
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idk, im not using it on my only phone

empty wren
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oh

wheat plume
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someone says that hotspot doesnt work

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and sometimes mobile data

empty wren
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on the generic system image?

wheat plume
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yeah

empty wren
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oh okay

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that makes sense

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that will be fixed i would think

wheat plume
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The same issues where said about the 10 GSI

empty wren
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but keep in mind that is the baseline

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custom firmwares will work

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and you will get your patches

wheat plume
empty wren
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just your low level stuff will not be upodated

wheat plume
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same issues for 10 and 11 GSI

empty wren
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yeah since it is the baseline

wheat plume
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hmmm

short cove
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Umm

empty wren
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think of it more like testing the device

short cove
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So this area smells of burning plastic

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Is there anything wrong?

empty wren
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i do not think google goes too far into it

wheat plume
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thats not good....

short cove
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So basically

empty wren
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what is up with your copper heastpipers

short cove
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This area suddenly started smoking and then it shut itself off

empty wren
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maybe remove that copper heatpipe or is that plastic

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and take a magnifying glass to examine it

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i guess if you can take a macro shot then you can also figure it out

short cove
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It's a copper heatpipe yes

empty wren
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any idea what it is above

short cove
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The GPU

empty wren
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oh

short cove
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Someone else said it could be a burst copper heatpipe

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Because everything else seems to be intact

empty wren
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i am just curious if somehting else went wrong elsewhere

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since your gpu should not just do that

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but it could be just that what you said

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did you drop the laptop?

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or did it fall

reef patrol
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SMOKING?

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Yeah that's very bad.

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Got warranty on it?

short cove
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Didn't fall or drop

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I was just using it normally

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The power adapter light went off so I checked and puff it went smoking

shadow minnow
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I mean, it must have been some bigger part as it started smoking. Would be actually interesting to know what exactly started that.

short cove
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Idk it came from the inside

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I took the bottom cover off and nothing was damaged

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I'll take the cooling assembly off and see if the GPU is fucked

empty wren
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If you can, check your other components you probably may not even need to remove to diagnose what happened.

fair gull
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@short cove glad someone besides me is also enjoying my daily job

wheat plume
bronze ether
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lol

bronze ether
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price?

wheat plume
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idk, I can check

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O.o its on indiegogo

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Seems to be around €150

bronze ether
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hm

thick elk
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This is basically the same as the odroid-h2+ in terms of cpu

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A bit better than a pi 4

wheat plume
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oo

thick elk
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that being said if you were to buy the parts + the odroid this would be cheaper than the odroid

pale sigil
reef patrol
wheat plume
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OMFH

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This is a strange sight to see

short cove
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Can someone explain what the fuck is this

empty wren
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@short cove Damn son(not literal) looks it melted into the display bracket

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Yuck that looks like it needs a cleanup, can you remove some more items from there to get a better look?

short cove
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I'd prefer not to touch anything yet sorry

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Doesn't boot so

empty wren
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Fair enough, like mansen asked earlier do you have a warranty?

short cove
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No point

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It's fucking burnt

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There's still a burned smell

short cove
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Ah true

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Well it's under the WiFi card

fair gull
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i mean this is obly really fixable with a mb swap, warranty repair or really good luck in finding the right components and a diagram for the laptop

short cove
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I don't plan on fixing it

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Way too annoying

shadow minnow
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May it be VRM?

short cove
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It could be yeah

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It started burning once I tried plugging the power source in

fair gull
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could be general power circutry for detection of power from adaptor etc

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because it looks like thats the corner where u connect power source

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plus not sure if vrm fits under a wifi card

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they grey sqaure to the left of wifi card is prob part of vrm

reef patrol
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At any rate. New motherboard. So if it's not under warranty, you might as well sell off the parts and grab a new one.

short cove
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I'll just do a full new build if it comes to that

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I heard 5700 XT has rather high operating temperatures?

ashen spindle
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founders edition yes, some AiB models are much better for temperature

short cove
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I am looking into this sapphire nitro+ version

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Not cheap but I read the temps are greatly improved

reef patrol
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The one I have from power cooler is quite cool.

wheat plume
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Wait
;_;
OnePlus Nord is only limited edition :/

reef patrol
wheat plume
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Idk how many they have but wtf ;_:

short cove
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Nord VPN

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Welp now I am officially gonna start on a desktop build

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I made a very rough sketch of the parts any opinions?

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For the GPU I'm looking at the sapphire nitro+ model to be exact

ashen spindle
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3300x is probably good enough if it's price is not too far up in your place

short cove
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Is it more powerful than 3600?

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Sorry if I sound like too clingy to my list just asking why

ashen spindle
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not its a tiny bit weaker but much cheaper if you find it at MSRP

pale sigil
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3300x is fucking awesome

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gaming wise its better than the 3600

short cove
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Oh? Why

pale sigil
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in most cases

ashen spindle
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ehhh tahts not true

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they are more or less equal

pale sigil
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My man 10fps or so is quite a lot more

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over 100fps anyway

short cove
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What gives 3300x the edge to be exact

ashen spindle
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???

shadow minnow
ashen spindle
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where are you closing your eyes that you think the 3300x is better

pale sigil
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For gaming

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i said

short cove
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I don't have a PC @shadow minnow

ashen spindle
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yes I know

short cove
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The hell am I supposed to go without a PC for months?

pale sigil
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im basing it off benchmarks etc

ashen spindle
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for gaming its not better that makes no sense

pale sigil
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how? it gives you more fps for less money

ashen spindle
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but it doesnt give you more

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it gives you about equal

pale sigil
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most benchmarks disagree with you

ashen spindle
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they dont

old marlin
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well

shadow minnow
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If you can last without it / with iGPU for 2-3 months u will get much better performance for that price.

old marlin
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on paper it has a slightly higher clock

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after boosting they are at about the same

ashen spindle
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ueserbenchmark might disagree but that site is useless

short cove
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Can a PC boot without any GPU?

old marlin
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value wise just for gaming it is definetley better though

pale sigil
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Look up many video benchmarks, in most cases its better

old marlin
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@short cove yes, but you won't see anything

pale sigil
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most

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before you try 360 it

short cove
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@old marlin thought so yeag

short cove
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I mean I wanted to wait for the RDNA 2 but I'd rather not buy an Intel CPU or some APU

pale sigil
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averages for 6 games

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well ok then

ashen spindle
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yea you could also look at the actual fps instead of the end result

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they show them in the video

shadow minnow
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@short cove nvidia ampere is supposed to come in middle of September

pale sigil
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idk in a lot of games it has the upper edge

short cove
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I don't plan on getting an Nvidia GPU

shadow minnow
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Why?

short cove
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I don't expect them to offer particularly good value at 400

pale sigil
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Based on all the real time benchmarks i watched

shadow minnow
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They will have to

pale sigil
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its better down to value alone

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its dirt cheap in my country anyway

shadow minnow
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As RDNA 2 is also close

pale sigil
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when its in stock anyway

ashen spindle
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I literally said to get a 3300x if its not much above MSRP

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better value and mostly equal performance still doesnt make it have more fps

pale sigil
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Ye but you said it wasn't better, im just saying alone for that its better.

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But FPS wise a lot of times it can have an fps advantage

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which like i said is a lot over 100fps

short cove
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@shadow minnow yeah I'd prefer if I have a PC up and running before school starts

ashen spindle
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but rare occurances are not "a lot of times" or the norm

shadow minnow
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@short cove I mean, there is another option - go with i5 10600k and use iGPU till new GPU release

pale sigil
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most gaming benchmark videos its over 50% of the total games

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that have 10+fps advantage

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i guess math

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but bleh

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Most important games its seems to matter

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such as online games

ashen spindle
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in the gamersnexus video 6/7 have the 3600 above the 3300x, in F1 its 208 fps vs 206 for the 3600

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so idk where you get your numbers from

pale sigil
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thats why you watch multiple sources

ashen spindle
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yes I literally have 12/13 cases from two reliable sources showing 3300x to have less fps

shadow minnow
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@short cove going with i5 will also give you noticeable more fps in games if you are going to heavily OC - https://youtu.be/DZbh3hlwTRE

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pale sigil
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fair enough

old marlin
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needs an expensive mainboard

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at that point you'd have to compare it to a more expensive cpu from amd dogeKekker

shadow minnow
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Still it will be better in games

old marlin
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yea

shadow minnow
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It is not good value

old marlin
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if you add a mainboard that is the price of the cpu

shadow minnow
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But iGPU

ashen spindle
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just get the 3300x and the 5700 you chose, easy to sell and upgrade both parts later this year

short cove
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10600k costs the same as a 3700X

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It makes no sense to buy it

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I just checked local pricing

shadow minnow
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I5 Costs 250€

old marlin
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so 100 euros more

shadow minnow
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Where do you live?

old marlin
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and a board that is basically the same amount more

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germany

pale sigil
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1660 super

old marlin
shadow minnow
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I mean where does @short cove live

old marlin
short cove
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HK

old marlin
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ok only 80 euro difference

pale sigil
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bleh i5s

old marlin
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you get a much less useful cpu as well

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for the price of a 3700x

pale sigil
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I always forget i5s aint potatoes now

shadow minnow
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Why bleh? Have you seen gamer nexuses video, it even had over 30 FPS more than r5 when OCed

pale sigil
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I always forget

ashen spindle
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I'll just repeat what I think is the best path: just get the 3300x and the 5700xt you chose, easy to sell and upgrade both parts later this year

old marlin
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it still is not a good deal

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it isn;t even a competitor to the r5

pale sigil
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i just refuse to go intel

old marlin
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since it costs the same as the r7

pale sigil
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now

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THough im still meh about my 7700k

old marlin
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completely disregarding the mobo

pale sigil
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xD

shadow minnow
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R7 not much better in gaming then r5

old marlin
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you do know that isn;t a realistic comparison?

shadow minnow
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I mean, there is imo no point of getting r7 or higher for gaming

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R5 is really good deal though, same as r3

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But if you really want to spend more, then i5 makes sense

ashen spindle
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no then a better gpu with the cheaper cpu makes sense

old marlin
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better gpu will almost always get a better result

shadow minnow
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I mean, if someone goes 2080s and wants better CPU

old marlin
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i'd argue that spending more money on the gpu still makes the bigger difference

ashen spindle
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but we aren't talking about hypothetical scenarios, we are talking about a very exact list of pcparts that someone posted lol

shadow minnow
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Upgrade from r5 to i5 cheaper than 2080s to 2080ti

ashen spindle
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what are you even on about

old marlin
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you'd have to get a more expensive mobo

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so 2080 ti would be in the same budget

zenith sonnet
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Meta gaming performance review

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Tbh, I didn't expect a gap this large between 3600 and 3700X

short cove
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How good is this?

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This is very expensive but is this like just excellent performance?

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Or I really don't need to put some much money into the SSD

ashen spindle
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unless you have specific useages that need high bandwidth, an adata is cheaper, or an Intel P660/665

zenith sonnet
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The Evo Plus isn't even that expensive

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Last I looked at them

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But with the AData drives you get the same or better perf for a lower price

fair gull
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adata my most favorite company /s

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want some really cheap adata drives?

wheat plume
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in general or just for data storage?

fair gull
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still have to throw out the few adata drives we have

ashen spindle
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hmm I do need more storage...

fair gull
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@ashen spindle then pick them out of our ewaste bin

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find out were i work and get them

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im not willingly giving those to anyone

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kingston a series and adata have just disappointed us way too much

ashen spindle
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that'll be a bit difficult with me not leaving my house, don't have a spot robot yet to pick them

fair gull
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so theyll get recycled or whatever then

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hopefully into useable ssds

ashen spindle
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if you ever have some intel server ssds from old servers that need to go let me know, still sad I missed my chance on getting them cheap on ebay

fair gull
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i think we had some

ashen spindle
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the 4tb+ variants?

fair gull
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doesnt really matter cant give them out

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we shred them

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literally

ashen spindle
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rip, but makes sense depending on the data on it

fair gull
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because of customer wish

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yes if i get my hands on some of the low profile customer where i know we used the 4tb ones

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then i can let u know

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i think i have like 4 or 6 running around somewhere

ashen spindle
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think it was some ibm or hp servers that got replaced, so the ebay listing had like a couple hundred for 3xx$, so less than 100 per tb

fair gull
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wew

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dayum

ashen spindle
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think it was linus who catched wind and bought most of them for a server

short cove
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Well the ADATA is significantly cheaper

pale sigil
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yup nope

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i do not like beat sabers 360 maps

wheat plume
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O.o

fair gull
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@short cove and from my experience trash

ashen spindle
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try the 90° ones, much better imo

fair gull
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all customers i sold some too got a replacement 6months to a year later

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because the drive failed completely

pale sigil
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it me so fucking much

fair gull
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the kingston a series drives held out way shorter like 3months

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or 4

short cove
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So the 970 evo plus is the top tier high end reliable option that won't fail in like a year?

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Or 2 at that

fair gull
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i have a 970evo or 960

pale sigil
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Also i dont miss puching things in my room by accident

fair gull
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2 years still blazing fast and stronk

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theres other options tho

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just not a fan of adata and kingston a series

short cove
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Alright then I want reliability I suppose I have to pay for it

ashen spindle
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Intel 660p or 665p is a good value choice for SSDs

fair gull
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because of well experience

short cove
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I can get 660P

ashen spindle
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should be much cheaper right?

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than the samsung ones

short cove
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A good chunk yeah

reef patrol
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Reliability is a vague term.

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If you're not a server user, you're probably not going to notice a cacheless NVME for the most part, so paying for it can seem odd.

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If you need redundancy, you're using RAID already.

wheat plume
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if I enter the commad in terminal it still works though

red oyster
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might just dislike https://

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not sure why containing : before / is bad

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seems odd

ashen spindle
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Just omit the part it doesn’t like, seems like it uses that for escaping characters or smth

wheat plume
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you mean just start the URL from www?

ashen spindle
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idk just google how that thing on your desktop thing wants it formatted

shadow minnow
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I wish wooting KBs had doubleshoot PBTs, as it is quite often in that price point.

ashen spindle
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buy a pbt keycap set then?

frozen anchor
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wooting kbs are already cheap for what you get

ashen spindle
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^

frozen anchor
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and pbt keycaps arent too expensive as an addon

ashen spindle
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but he dreams way too often

shadow minnow
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wooting kbs are already cheap for what you get
@frozen anchor not really

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and pbt keycaps arent too expensive as an addon
@frozen anchor even some 100$ KBs have it

frozen anchor
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well im sure wooting could add it on for a small bump in price sure

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but the boards are still well worth it for what you get

shadow minnow
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They are worth it, it would just be nice to have PBTs

frozen anchor
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i think a good solution would be to be able to add pbt keycaps as an option with buying the kb

shadow minnow
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Even if I’d need to pay 10-30$ extra I’d buy it

frozen anchor
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yeah if wooting just made it be +$x.xx for pbt keycaps option or whatever that would be cool

ashen spindle
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well they plan to do a b-brand thing to offer sutff like that, but makes no sense to have it as a stock option since that increases the price and thats not what you need when you already are at high quality/price and need to make sure people actually want to buy it

frozen anchor
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yeah i think making it an option to get pbt instead of abs when buying the kb would be cool if the b-brand thing ever happens

ivory geyser
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You mean the lekker edition or the normal wooting caps?

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Well thing is, people want to use the keyboard when they buy it, so you ant really ship without caps

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Regardless of what quality you pack with it

shadow minnow
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Me

ashen spindle
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well, it's the first one after my sidewinder x4 membrane lmao

frozen anchor
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eh abs lasered caps are so cheap it doesnt really matter

ivory geyser
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I would like an option for PBT dual shots similar to what Razer offers tho.

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Wooting's font is nicer.

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And it looks overall nicer.

shadow minnow
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True

ivory geyser
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Heck, dont ship it with the keeb. Ship it as an upgrade kit.

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I dont care

ashen spindle
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(thats the idea with the b-brand iirc)

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I think the only big issues came from the warehouse in the US having ownerhsip change?

frozen anchor
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yeah wasnt wooting's fault at all

ashen spindle
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thonk when was that

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I mean that's on the package station or whatever? I got mine in a normal package, also sure that was a waste of paper, but not really an issue aside from that?

ivory geyser
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Tbh, as long as the items arrives safely and properly, I dont care one bit if it is packed in cardboard or a fancy box.

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But that is just me :P

ashen spindle
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it sounded more like the people packing it up not doing the right thing, I dont remember more than them looking into it after people posted it here though

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whatever it was, they got it resolved once they heard of it and it seems only a handful of people got oversized packages

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sure but I dont see an issue like that as something negative for a company really?

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they've had more (black switches) plus regional layout options etc. and so far there are no issues really aside from oversized boxes for some parts at some point?

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which again, is not really in their control and could've happend to literally anyone who isnt amazon and thus could just buy the entire warehouse?

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I mean I am not denying there are issues or anything, I just don't see how they really contribute to thinking more sku's would bring more problems

frozen anchor
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idk how youre blaming wooting for this issue... its not wooting's fault unless youre gonna say its their fault for using easypost and not predicting ruby has would buy them and also there were a bunch of other vendors who get messed up from the ruby has issues

ashen spindle
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you mean another limited edition?

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we kinda know fullzise HE is next and then a smaller factor afterwards

wheat plume
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wooting one is TKl

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oof right

reef patrol
ashen spindle
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bc thats not the formfactor most people are buying either etc.

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idk what manufacturing would be for that, if people would thing thats too big or not what they are used to etc.

frozen anchor
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people dont want 'battleship' size boards fullsize is usually the max people want

sacred shoal
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I can't stand any sort of number entry without a 10 key and I can bind all the numkeys to extra functions otherwise

timid chasm
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well desk sizes are usually limited so I'm sure length of the board matters

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I would be far less concerned about width if there was just a bunch of keys at the top

ashen spindle
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also fullsize works, but having more to keys to the right makes it harder to put the mouse in a comfortable spot. and putting them above the F keys is limisted by deskspace mostly I'd say

sacred shoal
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also playing roguelikes is way more annoying without the numpad

timid chasm
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What type of roguelikes? I don't know if I've ever use the numpad for one

frozen anchor
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there is the solution of left side numpad

sacred shoal
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OwO

ivory geyser
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75% wooting blobaww

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Something with the layout of Z-element Z-88 or Niz Plum would be perfect.

frozen anchor
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why are you saying more skus are bad while wanting a different model of lekker

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well its the sensible thing for wooting to do

ashen spindle
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what if it was TKL and still not sold by now?

frozen anchor
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eh theres still lots of people who didnt get any money btw

timid chasm
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@ashen spindle That would be because people are stupid

frozen anchor
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ok

ashen spindle
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I mean to say, yes it took a while, that doesnt meant it was the wrong choice, it probably would've taken much longer if it was not fullsize

ivory geyser
#

I do believe it mostly has to do with the fact that they were trying to make as many people happy as possible.

#

If the fullsize numbers were higher... what else were they supposed to go by.

frozen anchor
#

that doesnt change the fact that more wooting twos sold after the kickstarter

ivory geyser
#

Besides, think of it this way: We will get debugged, better version of the TKL lekker after people test it for us! lul

#

I dont know how many people actually buy it for the analog reasons tbh

#

I just bought it for the adjustable actuation and it being a very nice prebuilt.

#

I havent even tried the analog functionality on anything

timid chasm
#

if native keyboard analog support existed for games then sure but until we get that from devs it'll always be limited

frozen anchor
#

im sure its not just based on kickstarter numbers

ashen spindle
#

sure but a lot of people already had a one at that point and didnt want a new one, like me for example

frozen anchor
#

why did you buy one if you dont like what they did with it?

ivory geyser
#

There are more hall-effect boards on the market.

frozen anchor
#

well wooting has said now that there will eventually be tkl

#

ok well you seem very salty about having bought a full size

#

so idk

ivory geyser
#

Huh?

#

What does Wooting have to do with xenophobia in China?

#

I am not following, Wooting in an EU company, not Taiwanese.

pale sigil
#

ttbh

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at this rates its becoming a taiwan company

#

lol

#

2 of the founders live in Taiwan

ashen spindle
#

nah that aint happening, not a major tax advantage or smth like that and would just bring more risks to it imo

pale sigil
#

was a joke

sacred shoal
#

I still don't see the appeal of TKL unless it's on or for a laptop

#

you're losing a lot of utility for a bit of space

ivory geyser
#

What ulitity?

ashen spindle
#

less desk space, for some games etc. you really dont need it at all, less chance of smashing mouse into the side of the keyboard bc its further apart etc.

ivory geyser
#

All the number keys are in the top row

sacred shoal
#

and are painful to use if you're going to type more than 4

ivory geyser
#

Not really, I think that is more of a muscle memory issue

sacred shoal
#

with a 10 key you can flip through a binder with one hand and enter part numbers with the other

ashen spindle
#

yea... which is totally what everyone is doing...

#

man I dont remember the last time I used a hand on a keyboard and the other one was not on it too or on the mouse

sacred shoal
#

not to mention that you can bind all those keys with something like AHK if you aren't doing that

frozen anchor
#

Unless youve got a small desk usually i dont think a fullsize is too much of an issue for space

#

I have a tkl but if i actually put it closer to my mousepad its uncomfortable

#

So i have a large gap between them

ashen spindle
#

it's very easy to just never have a use for the numpad

sacred shoal
#

you're saving like 3 inches of space to lose out on almost 20 keys which, on top of being useful for data entry, frequently aren't bound out of the box in a program

ivory geyser
#

In all honesty, if you are an accountant, numpad is good.

#

Otherwise... why?

ashen spindle
#

before I had my w1 I had a fullsize keyboard

#

in all the years I onyl used the numpad for one thing

sacred shoal
#

I understand why people wouldn't use the numpad, I just don't understand why even people who don't habitually use it think it's not worth having

ashen spindle
#

that was having disguise bindings in TF2 to save me doing it via 2 key combos

#

also I did use to sometimes hit my mouse into my keyboard's side with a fullsize, never happend with mz w1

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also it was really nice when I moved it the three times I needed to put it in my bag, bc it barely fit an fullsize would've required a seperate bag

#

so for me the numpad missing has been a benefit

ashen spindle
#

ye (and sometimes it truly is about the space if your desk is really small or crammed)

frozen anchor
#

well personally i think having my tkl very close to my mousepad is uncomfortable

#

well i dont really have a space issue

#

my mousepad is a XL artisan hien

#

yeah so 49x42cm pad

#

but still i feel like if i have my mouse and kb really close its very uncomfortable

#

my tkl is far enough away from my mousepad that i could easily fit a full size in the exact same spot

#

i dont like centering my kb because it sets my wrists at an angle from the A and S keys and wasd

#

i havent tried 60% or 65% or whatever that is

#

i like to have f keys

#

id be fine chopping off the nav but not the f keys

#

i dont need them in the games i play but they are nice to quickly open menus and stuff like that

sacred shoal
#

your keyboard appears to have lost half its keys

#

I want a modernized keyboard of yore dammit

#

either that or a brain machine interface

#

and not one that I have to move muscles to use

#

rip that little ruler cutout that went over the fn keys ;-;

frozen anchor
#

i think this layout is nice but its really hard to find

#

yeah f12 ends up shifted a whole 2 keys

wheat plume
#

When they say optical
Do they have analog functionality?

frozen anchor
#

not surprised that its a huntsman

wheat plume
#

Ohh right

frozen anchor
#

it is optical but just normal

#

wooting optical is optical taken to the extreme

wheat plume
#

If every other keyboard is digital that means they are binary

And thus, that makes the Wootings non binary

#

Wooting says NB rights

old marlin
#

the data is still binary

wheat plume
#

Ooof

old marlin
#

at no point is it actual analog data

wheat plume
#

I know xd

old marlin
#

razer does have analog switches btw

#

just not in that

#

new ones are a bit better

wheat plume
#

Hmm
Putting sound clips of the keys is a nice touch tbh

old marlin
frozen anchor
#

well im not a fan of 1.2mm actuation anyways

wheat plume
#

Assuming they are genuine

old marlin
#

the stabs are worse though

#

1mm

#

not 1.2

#

on razer

#

the stabs on the tkl are better than the 60%

#

somehow

#

would take a leopold over it any day

#

btw selling my kbd8x mkii this week

frozen anchor
#

the huntsman has stabs on every key technically blobhyperthinkfast

old marlin
#

should I get another keeb from the money

#

or a good monitor and ssd

frozen anchor
#

lol

old marlin
#

yea i'll get like 500-600 from selling that and some plates

wheat plume
#

or a good monitor and ssd
@old marlin yes

old marlin
#

I'd prolly get a LG 27GL850-B

#

or a new custom idk

frozen anchor
#

dang thats an expensive monitor

old marlin
#

it is a good fucking monitor though

#

and my system is powerful enough to handle it

frozen anchor
#

i just have a cheap 144hz 1080p

#

but if i was going to upgrade i would get a 240hz not 1440p

old marlin
#

yea I want good colors as well

frozen anchor
#

uh

#

where are those numbers even from lmao

#

even if those core counts were correct how can a dual processor system have more than twice a single processor system

#

unique air cooled

#

what

reef patrol
empty wren
#

Where is even... 😂 Where is it 😂

timid chasm
#

I mean it's weird and probably doesn't really work but it makes sense to read

zenith sonnet
#

Guess Linus is really happy now
AMD fixed the only complaint he had with the 3990X

short cove
#

New update

#

The underside is much much more severely burned

wheat plume
ashen spindle
#

finally

wheat plume
#

I hope they have to pay that$13B

ashen spindle
#

I hopey they have to pay and cant find a single state that gives them tax reductions

#

(not going to happen bc capitalism is shit but one can hope)

wheat plume
#

Yeh ;_;

ashen spindle
#

well, on second thought they should be allowed to do this, 6 million in tax sounds fair when you make 1.6billion right?

shadow minnow
#

imo that is not mistake of apple, as they did not do anything illegal

ashen spindle
#

nobody said it's a "mistake" ?

#

going to the country with the lowest taxes and only doing so after getting additional benefits is not something they did accidentely, but should be illegal and hopefully gets ruled that way

shadow minnow
#

But it is not illegal, so until it becomes illegal, they imo should not have to pay to Irish government, as they were one “working” with them, lowering them taxes ...

#

I would understand if Irish government would have to pay for lowering them taxes.

ashen spindle
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... you are acting as if apple had no idea and no malicious intent in cooperating

shadow minnow
#

They had idea. But Irish government allowed it (I mean, I doubt they had gun aimed to had, with Apple saying lower us taxes)

ashen spindle
#

no they merely had apple telling them if they dont lower it apple will be paying 0$ because they will set up HQ elsewhere

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aka a machinegun next to their head

#

also jesus christ how can you even try to argue for a company that in the UK just had 1.4 billion in sales and payes 6 million in tax??

#

thats .3%

ashen spindle
#

lmao asrock the absolute madmen

#

(itx format for epyc server cpus)

last fern
#

:|

misty pier
#

rack motherboards are pretty interesting

old marlin
#

happy now?

fair gull
#

thats the same river that overflooded in crisis

ivory geyser
#

Man, that is a nice board.

#

Why are ya selling it?

old marlin
#

want to get a monitor

#

my current one sucks

#

and want different switches

#

not feeling liek rebuilding it

#

it is a good board but not exotic enough imo

ivory geyser
#

Ahhh

#

Which board ya getting?

old marlin
#

well nothing yet for now

#

am using the womier atm

#

maybe vega once that releases

ivory geyser
#

Ohhh

#

The TKL version of Worm or the 66 one?

old marlin
#

66

ivory geyser
#

Ah

old marlin
#

tkl is quite new

ivory geyser
#

Indeed

#

But the 66 is quite good; even nicknamed the king of budgets by some

old marlin
#

it is

#

very clearly

#

I wish I knew how tf to record a good sound test

ivory geyser
#

Blue Yeti tends to be a good way.

old marlin
#

I have a good mic

#

that is not the problem

ivory geyser
#

Hmm

old marlin
#

AT2020 USB+

ivory geyser
#

Huh

#

Maybe try looking up some guides?

old marlin
#

cba to

ivory geyser
#

Well shit xD

#

Either way, I am very happy with my progressive second round of lubing is going with my Wooting - it sounds a lot better than the previous attempt

old marlin
#

welllll

#

am VERY happy with the sound of my current board

#

feels to rigid imo though

#

btw towel under the keeb is op for sound

ivory geyser
#

What did you do to it?

old marlin
#

clipped, bandaid modded lubed and glued stabs

#

JWK linears with 205g0 and films

#

PPS keycaps

ivory geyser
#

Do the Wooting stabs even need bandaid modding?

old marlin
#

ehhhhh

#

idk

#

the ones in this do imo

#

spacebar still pings

#

but that is due to it being PPS

ivory geyser
#

Also, glueing them?

old marlin
#

ye

ivory geyser
#

How?

old marlin
#

the stab housing to the plate

#

with superglue

ivory geyser
#

Ohh

old marlin
#

although hotglue is more commonly used

ivory geyser
#

That sounds a bit drastic

old marlin
#

to reduce rattle from the housings

#

they are quite loose stock

ivory geyser
#

Cant you just lube it?

old marlin
#

cherry stabs have that less usually

#

nah

#

housings still rattle themselves in this case

ivory geyser
#

Are we both talking about Wooting?

old marlin
#

nah

#

I am talking about the womier

#

you can easily check it

#

just grab the housing and see if it moves left and right

ivory geyser
#

Ohhhh

ashen spindle
#

or its the guy himself scamming people, wouldn't put it past him at this point

old marlin
#

inb4 he actually does it

ivory geyser
#

Or Elon is high again lol

old marlin
#

because he knows no one is stupid enough to do that

ivory geyser
#

Man

#

If I had 20k$

#

I would send one

#

But sadly I dont lol

ashen spindle
#

nah thats the second post already, its an obvious scam

old marlin
#

I mean it is

ashen spindle
#

but its a good target because he is actually insane enough to do this if his twitter wasn't restricted bc of his tesla tweets

frozen anchor
#

hmm

#

looks like it got a few

old marlin
#

oof

ashen spindle
#

oh wait holy shit there is much more going on

#

they hacked like all of big crypto

frozen anchor
#

the elon one has $6k confirmed $17k unconfirmed RIP

ashen spindle
#

(tbf elon would be high enough sometimes to do that, but with fcc watching his account bc tesla, that will always be a scam)

frozen anchor
#

well if he did it for real even as a joke im sure he would be forced to pay out the money to all the people who sent it to him

ashen spindle
#

and be removed from tesla for being mentally instable most likely

old marlin
#

got him as well

#

he shares his bitcoin adress with elon musk pepeThonk

frozen anchor
#

lol

ashen spindle
#

that confirms that he is doing that bc his anti-covid vax scam khjshgbdhbgd rambles on in conspicracy

frozen anchor
#

damn unconfirmed transactions are up $15k more in the time we have been talking about this

#

i dont understand how people can fall for this sort of thing though

#

its the most blatant scam

ashen spindle
#

its not them all falling for a email scam, it's most likely a twitter issue

#

oh

ivory geyser
#

Easy, thrill! lul

ashen spindle
#

yeah that part is just taking advantage of idiots

frozen anchor
#

just refreshing this page the money is still rolling in.... 5 transactions in the last minute

fair gull
#

the fuck is going on on twitter

ashen spindle
#

someone seems to have found an issue with twitter

#

on another note, death stranding on pc seems to be scaling with 24 cores and maybe even more

#

so thats cool tech

fair gull
#

on another note that came is kinda boring

#

run from a to b while drinking energy drinks

#

like irl

ashen spindle
#

sure but it uses the same engine as horizon

#

so same applies there probably

#

@fair gull actual tech question, if website.org lands me on a scam site and not www.website.org is that someone having shit dns or is this dns hijacking?

fair gull
#

could be both

#

check dns

#

then you know

ashen spindle
#

oh yeah true that was too easy to think about lmao

pale sigil
misty pier
#

what the hell is up on twitter

frozen anchor
pale sigil
#

Wow

frozen anchor
#

wow $15k just got confirmed

#

RIP

fickle ore
#

what u on about

frozen anchor
#

twitter got hacked by some bitcoin scammers

#

i linked the bitcoin wallet

fickle ore
#

good

fair gull
#

this reminds me

#

i cant use twitter from firefox

#

only firefox private window

#

and any other browser

#

no clue why

pale sigil
fair gull
#

retweets

#

oh noe

ashen spindle
#

?

fair gull
#

retweets means someone basically reposts it

#

right

#

so people spread the dumb

ashen spindle
#

yes

#

but also memes+ bot+ other hijacked accounts etc

#

like after a certain sizes some people just get auto retweets on everything they tweet lmao

crimson wigeon
#

Gawdamn that's a lot so shortly

#

Are people with bitcoin just dumb or what

ashen spindle
#

yes

#

bc every idiot nowadays has bitcoin

frozen anchor
#

well it would also be a lot harder for the scammers to not do it with bitcoin

fair gull
#

unconfirmed transactions are rolling back rn

frozen anchor
#

yeah -4.7

ashen spindle
#

intel event on septemver 2nd, probably announcing tigerlake there

fair gull
#

or they announce that they double bitcoins send to their wallet

#

who knows

frozen anchor
#

lmao

ashen spindle
#

shintel coins

pale sigil
#

guys

#

i can double your coins

#

send them to me

#

promise

fair gull
#

k

#

i only have 1euro coins tho

ashen spindle
#

guys I can double your nudes, send them to me

fair gull
#

u cant

#

cause im double ur size already

ashen spindle
pale sigil
crimson wigeon
#

Come on hackers make Trump tweet it already

pale sigil
#

Both @POTUS and @rdt

#

pls

misty pier
fair gull
#

@pale sigil are u trying to confirm if the hacker reads the chat here?

#

lol

pale sigil
#

lol

frozen anchor
#

that wallet is now at 6.2 BTC confirmed

#

RIP $57k

old marlin
#

multiple wallets apparently btw

pale sigil
#

Yes

frozen anchor
#

well yeah thats just the one i saw on all the tweets that actually put the wallet

thick elk
#

you can trace multiple wallets I totalled 2 together at 1t least € 120k

#

but there is more

sick creek
#

morons

pale sigil
#

No way to verify that

#

Also why so blurry

sick creek
#

lol yea, not to mention that it matches literally none of their design language at all

#

might as well be from some one's dribbble account

wheat plume
#

My friend's phone is strange

#

She can't turn off the phone cause she doesn't know the pattern

#

It's not her lock screen pattern either

sick creek
#

lol

#

just let the phone shut itself off after running out of battery

wheat plume
#

She wants to boot into recovery to do factor reset

sick creek
#

guess its gonna be a while

wheat plume
#

That's how this showed up

#

Asking for the password to turn off the phone

#

Never seen that before in my life

sick creek
#

parental controls i bet

#

owned

frozen anchor
#

wouldnt that require root though?

sick creek
#

wat

frozen anchor
#

to install something that makes a password requirement to turn off

sick creek
#

who says you have to install anything? i mean i dont know how parental controls on android work

#

but i dont imagine you'd have to install anything to enable them

frozen anchor
#

well nothing like that is on stock but yeah idk what phone that is so it could be using a really modified version of android

sick creek
#

makes sense that it's a separate password too lol

wheat plume
#

It's Motorola

frozen anchor
#

hmm motorola usually uses close to stock android

#

could be a rooted phone then

wheat plume
#

Hmm

#

Definitely not rooted by her if it is rooted

#

She doesn't even know what an OS is

frozen anchor
#

lol

#

some carriers load their own special os version on their phones

#

could be that

wheat plume
#

Carrier locking should be illegal -.-

#

I have two phones laying around the house that mom can't use anymore since changing carrier

#

Only phones I buy are unlocked cause I don't get them locked

frozen anchor
#

have you check if there are any exploits to root them

#

you might be able to get rid of the carrier stuff

#

If they allow access of the dev tools you can probably use usb debugging to flash something onto it

wheat plume
#

Usb debugging would need to be enabled on dev options

frozen anchor
#

yeah probably could only do it if theres an exploit

fickle ore
#

that thread scaling

fathom pasture
#

what x299 board should i get

#

i can choose between asrock, asus, evga, gigabyte and msi

#

feel free to ping me

hoary dock
#

Usb debugging would need to be enabled on dev options
@wheat plume doesnt holding the power button forcefully shut it off?

reef patrol
#

Those low Res screenshots of the Twitter tool seem to be genuine.

#

Hackers had inside help.

#

Also confirms that shadow banning is a thing, and that you can be banned from appearing on trends. keklaugh

ashen spindle
#

nah it looks like they are intercepting the 2FA sms or bypassing it

reef patrol
#

They simply used the admin panel to change emails.

ashen spindle
#

oh they did admit that happend, thought it was only rumors nvm then

zenith sonnet
#

Ampere seems to come with an all new 12 pin power connector to handle the power draw of the card thonk

#

Apparently made to handle up to 600W

stiff herald
#

RTX 4080 ti
comes with a 16 pin connector

ashen spindle
#

🤔

stiff herald
ashen spindle
#

you, uh, know that many high end cards already have two 8 pin connectors yes?

#

or even 3 for the extreme OC cards sometimes

stiff herald
#

I know
but thats the joke

#

let's just combine 2x8 to make 1x16

ashen spindle
#

I mean thats kind of the point of the rumored 12 pin

stiff herald
#

yeah
it'll be a very wide pin tho

ashen spindle
#

less than two 8 pins though and delivering the same power most likely

stiff herald
#

true

ashen spindle
#

kinda like the 12VO intel thing, long overdue change probably

stiff herald
#

you mean 12 volt only on psu?

ashen spindle
#

ye

stiff herald
#

I mean.... I dont know why the need
sure psu will be shorter but aren't mobos gonnabe bigger cuz of that?

#

and more expensive generally?

ashen spindle
#

should be mostly for OEM and it shouldn't change too much since it's one standard instead of different things

stiff herald
#

so its more meant for laptops and the likes? Or what?

ashen spindle
#

what

stiff herald
#

nvm

#

Altough I'm wondering how that design will work out for mobo manufacturers

ashen spindle
#

lul

old marlin
#

would make little sense for nvidia to do that tbh

ashen spindle
#

eh, could be something for internal use or so

#

getting closer to launch means more false leaks but also closer to knowing whats going on

stiff herald
#

but now I'm wondering
what if future high end gpus use the motherboard pin?

ashen spindle
#

the 24 pin? lmao no

old marlin
#

what if future high end gpus just have a wallplug

#

also how much power is that romired 12 pin supposed to carry

ashen spindle
#

up to 400ish

#

and max 600 in theory

old marlin
#

yeaaaaaaa

#

sounds very oversized

#

a 10 pin would already be enough for any modern card

#

more than 2 plugs make very little sense overall either way

ashen spindle
#

I mean an 8 pin could get up to like 320 was it? idk how likely or not that made the 12 pin numbers

#

not too sure on AWG/current/grounding etc.

old marlin
#

8 pin is rated for 150?

#

no wait that was EPS

ashen spindle
#

ye

#

also it could go up that high or whatever the actual number is on the 8 pin but usually isn't used in that config iirc

old marlin
#

realistically a single 8 pin is probably more than enough for any card today

#

if you consider that they also can draw 75 watts in spec from the mobo

ashen spindle
#

not with OC

old marlin
#

and in practice easily 100

#

they could get like 300w out of spec

#

easily

ashen spindle
#

yeah but gl not blowing up cheap psu's when pulling max rating through one cable

#

also OC can easily go above that

old marlin
#

yea

#

it makes sense to use it as a limitation for psus instead

#

but for the cheapos adapters exist to blow up their psu or burn their pc

ashen spindle
#

thats why a 12 pin sounded realistic, new standard where you can say "needs x watt" or it fails

old marlin
#

10 pin would make more sense though

#

since people wouldn't try to jam 2 6 pin connectors in it

ashen spindle
#

eh, just have it have some weird spacing or smth

old marlin
#

yeaaaaa

#

people managed to plug in 8 pin eps to 8 pin pcie and the other way around

ashen spindle
#

ye

ashen spindle
#

oh, it might be something for pcie5 stuff amybe?

#

those should land in servers next year so if new power stuff is needed the timing could fit

zenith sonnet
#

The actual translation seems to actually be, that the images used were his own creation, not that the article is imagination only

shadow minnow
#

What is best performing 360 AIO?

ashen spindle
#

arctic freezer prob

shadow minnow
#

If it just did not look that bad 😦

ashen spindle
#

its a liquid cooler idk what you expect

crimson wigeon
#

I dunno it looks ok

shadow minnow
#

I mean the CPU block part

#

So many others look better, but are more expensive for less performance

ashen spindle
#

it's almost like its a design to work well and have looks as a secondary concern...

reef patrol
#

I can only assume whatever Asetek has cooked up for their 6th gen is the best performer currently.

wheat plume
fair gull
#

how about 12pins with 1 or 2 missing

#

@ashen spindle @old marlin

ashen spindle
#

could work ye

old marlin
#

you meant as keys?

ashen spindle
#

so one in the middle is just blocked etc

fair gull
#

@old marlin yes since theres redundant grounds on single 6pins aswell

#

you could prob design smth with "missing pins" as keys

#

and if someone snips of pins from 2 6pin plugs thats just dumb

old marlin
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ye would be possible

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yeaaaa

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basically impossible to cut them off

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since they are tightly packed

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and contain some metal

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so scissors won't do

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because rounding holes as keys wasn't enough

fair gull
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better idea

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we use molex 4pin 4 side by side

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lets revive dead connectors

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then id finally be able to use the cheap psus with one string of 3 molex and 1 4pin floppy

old marlin
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please no

fair gull
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please yes

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add the floppy connector to the gpu aswell

old marlin
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molex is so bad

fair gull
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for backup power

fair gull
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yes

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sounds like an option

zenith sonnet
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Either Nvidia wasn't able to tame Ampere quite as much as they hoped, or they're gonna run it way above the sweet spot
But the need for more than 2x 8pin speaks volumes

old marlin
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not realistic tbh

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it would need to be like 400W to be in spec

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which would still easily work with that setup

fair gull
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easy fix

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seperate psu

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donzo

ashen spindle
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just make it so gpu and cpu come seperate psu's and you just buy a connector to plug both in the same outlet ez

fair gull
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na

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ech connector needs seperate outlet

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want 12hdds? get 12 outlets plus what the mb, cpu, gpu and fans need

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thats how we fix this issue

ashen spindle
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nice

zenith sonnet
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Why do we need PSUs when we have VRMs on the cards?
Just feed them 240V and convert from there

fair gull
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or

old marlin
fair gull
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now ur pc can be used outdoors

old marlin
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works with current cards

fair gull
zenith sonnet
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Does the rumoured 150$ fan make more sense now?

old marlin
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nah

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even with current gen tech

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a card with that amount of powerdraw and tdp is much faster than what is to be expected

zenith sonnet
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I've always found the arbitrary 300W limit silly anyway

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GPUs should be allowed to draw whatever they need

fair gull
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what arbitrary limit?

stiff herald
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let them suck 1000Watt for a 3GHz overclock

old marlin
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ghz doesn;t mean shit on it's own

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just look at the 9590

fair gull
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the cables of 8pin connectors could do 330watts max on 1 connector

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but thats when they start burning up

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so i think 150watts is sensible due to varying wire gauges

ashen spindle
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@digital cliff this might be more up your alley, AWG was your thing right?

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lul

old marlin
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lol

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I mean most cards pull more from pcie then what it is rated for

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like 100w is not uncommon

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instead of 75

ashen spindle
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nah I'd say that is still not common

old marlin
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the rx480 pulled up to 130

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on release

ashen spindle
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remember amd recently doing that and getting angry responses?

old marlin
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yea

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but there weren't any issues with it overall

ashen spindle
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sure but you are hoping on boardmakers to make solid pcie slots etc.

old marlin
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and even back then competent news outlets said that it is common

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not really

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like there were no issues at all afaik

ashen spindle
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theres a reason the new 1650 skus or whatever the cards where with only pcie power went down in clocks when they got gddr6 memory to stay in 75W packages

old marlin
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well

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you can make a cleaner power delivery with that

ashen spindle
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also, it only isnt an issue if you dont really have other pcie slots that ask for power

old marlin
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well

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who has nowadays

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the people that do usually have much more solid motherboards

ashen spindle
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sure but it's just not clean or necessary to go out of spec if you can just avoid it

old marlin
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true

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happens a lot though

ashen spindle
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usually not to that extend though

zenith sonnet
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Weird that they don't include comparison pictures for FidelityFX