I mean, when you look at videos, pcpartpicker... there are many people doing that.
#🔌│tech
shadow minnow
ashen spindle
I am impressed you can see from a pcpartpicker list what the people are using the system for...
old marlin
Lol
shadow minnow
I mean, you can look at AMD CPUs on pcparpicker. I also hear lot of people recommending it in some tech forums.
ashen spindle
I can also look at stuff like sales data from mindfactory where the 3600 and 3700 are usuallt the most sold cpus
point is, XT only makes sense if the non XT are similar prices, and intel still almost never makes sense
and you can use the amd stock cooler, intel not so much
misty pier
wraith prism be a chonky cooler
shadow minnow
Most of the people are usually buying normal cooler. It is better value cause it has cooler is not really argument. Value is value for people, so do not count that cooler as better value, at least for most people.
ashen spindle
yes they are still not amazing, but the talk was about value, if you care about temps/noise then that's fine and a lot of people do, but it still doesn't change that amd has better value there
shadow minnow
You mean K or no K version?
misty pier
kf's are the ones without onboard graphics right?
ashen spindle
in your argument, if every single person used those stupid expensive ram sticks with literall gold on them, it would lower the value of the mainboard, and that just makes no sense
shadow minnow
I am saying, that when you are getting something extra, but you are not gonna use it, it is no better for you, so no better value for you.
ashen spindle
yes but we are arguing about the product, not some random customer
shadow minnow
When most consumers fall under that category, it is not some random customer
ashen spindle
if you are making a pc and you want value performance, you use the stock cooler, if not, that is not what you make the pc for then and thats fine, but then it's not a value build anymore...
reef patrol
Eh... A third party cooler that is significantly better is so cheap these days.
shadow minnow
I am saying it is not better value for most of the people (not using stock cooler), but still, for people using stock cooler it is better value. Thing is that I am talking about majority of people.
reef patrol
The only Stock coolers I use are the biggest AMD ones with RGB. The rest are chucked.
shadow minnow
And you can still do value build with buying cooler.
ashen spindle
I dont fucking care what "most" people do because that doesnt change the product???
shadow minnow
@prisma crag you can not. That is minority of people buying arms.
ashen spindle
even if literally every single person would do that, it still doesnt change that it adds value, just nobody choses to make use of it
shadow minnow
@ashen spindle I am saying not value overall but value to people buying it.
ashen spindle
become an unreasonable amd fanboy and stick the cpu up your rear end?
oh that part lol
shadow minnow
Ok, so your CPU is going to be Celeron
When talking about ram, I have been looking at prices of the ram I purchased again, and they are literally selling 3200 kit for same price as I bought 4266 at sale.
reef patrol
ashen spindle
same timings, same memory vendor?
shadow minnow
Same memory (g skill tridentz royal)
Same vendor
Although not same timings, 3200 kits are worse bin than 4266 no matter timings with these g skill memories.
It was literally cheapest memory kit over 4000mhz from that shop. (Which sounds kinda crazy for tridentz royals)
ashen spindle
wow almost sounds like a sale, which reduces price to below what it usually is
shadow minnow
Yeah, it actually was
Which was kinda surprising
As that shop’s sales are usually far away from real sales, as it is one of biggest shops in my country.
I hope Corsair mp 510 960gb’s price will fall again. I Remember seeing it for 120€.
Now it is 180€
ashen spindle
might as well wait to get a SSD equal to what ps5 uses
then again, intel might still not have pcie4 this year lul
vagrant marsh
rocket nvme?
5 years warranty with registration, only 1 year without
400 bucks. my gen 3 2tb's costed me 327 euro each
yea but even gen 2 nvme's are enough for the average joe. i dont think that 90% of hte people actually need nvme.
reef patrol
Hell even a regular SSD is more than enough. With no cache 😄
vagrant marsh
i just bought it because i didnt want to handle all the cables. you just clip these on your motherboard and thats that.
reef patrol
Outside of large file transfers and high level caching (i.e. live video editing), it's pretty hard to notice the difference.
vagrant marsh
yea
i mean, until someone figures out how sony did it with the ps5 and make that tech available for the pc 😛 if thats ever gonna happen
instant loading times do seem like a fantasy world
misty pier
yeah a regular ssd is pretty much good enough
reef patrol
Doesn't stop me from having two 1TB NVMEs and another two 500GB SSDs though 😄
halcyon moss
I'm using the stock fan on my 3700x.
It's fine
It's waaay quieter than the fan on my 5700xt
Surprisingly noisy
shadow minnow
I want to buy 2 960gb NVMEs when I will build my system. Maybe I will add 32gb optane to it, but that is cause of additional ram, as I play highly moded games and 16gb not enough
Hope to see PCIe gen 4 optane with rocket lake a launch
ashen spindle
first you need to hope that rkl even gets pcie4 lul
shadow minnow
Well, that is nearly confirmed.
1200 socket is just for next gen (rocket lake)
And many current gen MBs have pcie gen 4 support
ashen spindle
yes because they bet on intel not fucking up the backport
intel has not confirmed it yet or had any leaks shwoing pcie4 working
shadow minnow
Well, it does not matter too much to me
Only nice thing would be better optane
But I do not need higher speed NVMEs for what I do
And pcie 3.0x16 is enough, and will be for some time
For GPUs I mean.
And about that leaks, surprisingly there were still no major leaks. Comet lake lineup got leaked long before launch.
But nearly no real leaks about rocket lake s
I mean, apart from that expected architecture... which is quite an old leak
No lineup leaks, nothing
ashen spindle
uh thats not true, we kinda know they max out at 8 cores
shadow minnow
We think it. No other lineup leaks, not even sure if 8 core will be called i7 or i9
But I hope there will be highest end cpu for arround 400€
ashen spindle
if your 8core is better than your 10 core, would you sell it for less?
shadow minnow
The thing is that Highest end CPUs of gen use to have best silicon for lot better OC. So if I can get it arround 400€ I will maybe go for that CPU.
ashen spindle
what
high end cpus have the best silicon usually, yes, but why would that mean you get it for less
shadow minnow
I hope I can get it for 400€ or less 😄
But I have some doubts, think it is 50/50
I mean, if price will be that low
ashen spindle
yeah it will be about 0%
shadow minnow
I mean, if it is bit more, I will maybe think about it.
But if it is 600€ than no way I will buy it
zenith sonnet
So, the XT's are a way for people to support AMD by donating some extra money to their fight against intel? 
Price/perf isn't there, but if you're looking for good bins, you got a first hand source now
reef patrol
zenith sonnet
Do they just croak like that?
frozen anchor
if your computer was working completely fine until it just died thats kind of weird but it probably could happen like that
zenith sonnet
It's completely dead silent
Nope, not the PSU
Would have been surprising, tbh
Attached the PSU tester
And we got power
zenith sonnet
Nothing
shadow minnow
Problem with mobo maybe
shadow minnow
What mobo is it?
zenith sonnet
As if I didn't even press the power button
Neither case nor soldered power buttons trigger an reaction
shadow minnow
Is there on of button on mobo?
There should be some imo
Try that
Also, try to disconnect and connect cable, but you have probably already did it 
zenith sonnet
Yes and yes, tried both
shadow minnow
What mobo do you have?
zenith sonnet
X570 Aorus Master
Something so basic on the board must have died that it does not even react to a power button
shadow minnow
People are suggesting popping up mobo battery
And returning it
Looks like it works for most
Read comments
zenith sonnet
Battery shows power in a battery tester
And removing and reseating it had no effect
shadow minnow
Although I doubt it would help try to boot from second bios
Looks like quite common problem.
Looks like you will have to return it
Try to remove cmos battery again
Most people got issue solved by that
At least 15 seconds
@zenith sonnet could be the case
zenith sonnet
Well, I have no multimeter, and I have my doubts the PC would be working for 6 months with a short somewhere
shadow minnow
What if some wire in some component shorticircuted, although very unlikely
Have you tried to unplug everything else than power if it posts?
Some people have this happening every week even after fix
... maybe do RMA process and go for another mobo
Some people also fixed by having cmos battery out for like 10 minutes
zenith sonnet
It's a Gigabyte feature : The Soft Brick. Unplug PSU from motherboard, remove battery, wait 10 minutes, plug in all, and power on, reconfigure bios and enjoy ... until the next time.
No joke
Let's see how long it lasts
shadow minnow
Looks like feature exclusive to x570 though
Hope it stays that way or get’s completely fixed
misty pier
I have to RMA my AIO 😭
something messed up the pump
it's making a strange whining noise
zenith sonnet
@shadow minnow Thanks
lean oasis
empty wren
hoary dock
fear me
@lean oasis iirc you dont need to create them from linux... you can also create them with nodejs on windows
halcyon moss
its just explorer.exe blocking from creating them right?
safe patrol
theres a discussion on that apparently o.O
weeeird
have you tried the full path of ~/.things?
ashen spindle
gotta love the GN review about the 3900xT 
misty pier
seems about right
safe patrol
🤔
wheat plume
Android 11?
empty wren
Android 11?
Yep
wheat plume
a popup menu ontop of a popup menu ontop of a popup menu
Big Sur gets crazy
urban lynx
ashen spindle
get a 3300x and some online windows key and a better gpu for that money saved
wheat plume
Apple...... why is this so ugly?
ashen spindle
looks fine though?
thick elk
that's almost as bad as windows
ivory geyser
Honestly, that is worse than windows.
wheat plume
it is worse
ivory geyser
Windows is just an a flat icon with a number circle on it.
Nothing amazing, but it doesnt exactly look shit either.
thick elk
Sort of true, in Windows the worst stuff is hidden behind menu's that have not been updated in the last decade
wheat plume
even on a random icon pack for Linux it looks better
ivory geyser
Absolutelly
thick elk
desktop linux has been designed to be universally themeable relatively easily.
wheat plume
this isnt even a well known icon pack and it looks great <3
should be more well known tbh
thick elk
I just use the default breeze stuff, works fine for me at least
thick elk
I only change the window decorations
wheat plume
why is spoiler?
urban lynx
the settings and it's weird, setting in setting hidden behind setting found in another obscurely hidden option of a setting panel is kind of getting on my nerves in win10
wheat plume
hm?
windows cant decide how to move completely to settings app instead of control panel
urban lynx
like, let's say i wanna navigate to the adapter options, i gotta sift my way through a few pages, to get this, somewhat weirldy located button to get back to the network adapter options.
urban lynx
and yeah, it doesnt help that it is this super weird back and forth joke between the settings app, and actual "explorer" windows...
and some buttons just send you back to another, even more obscure and barely related page where that option can finally be found
it lacks total visibility IMO
wheat plume
oo :D I like this
urban lynx
that's neat
wheat plume
I have plasma set to not show the titlebars for apps
but when I switch to anything other than the breeze theme they come back again -.- even if I change the titlebar theme back to breeze :/
zenith sonnet
Seems like the XTs aren't worth it for stock performance, but they're something many people have been wanting: they're overclockable
All-core 4.6GHz+ on a 3600XT doesn't seem to be a rarity
thick elk
infinity fabric also seems to scale a bit better from what I heard.
Still in terms of performance for money they are generally not a great deal right now.
It should mostly depend on their price dropping to be worthwile outside of having fun with overclocks.
shadow minnow
I mean, for fun with OC, they are still not really good, especially for RAM OC
ashen spindle
3800 being the max mem clock for efficency doesnt mean it cant go higher you can go 6000+ on them etc
wheat plume
explorer?
wheat plume
How TF is ubuntu's font rendering so damn perfect?
I use the same font on Manjaro and it's never this good looking
ashen spindle
uh you know, we kinda need a comparison picture to say anything about that
bc to me that just looks like normal stuff?
ashen spindle
I mean to me that looks exactly the same, just the VSCode seems to have a darker black or higher contrast
wheat plume
Hmm
True
Ubuntu font does look better at larger sizes also
So maybe that's part of it
On my system its size 12
I use it on my phone too....and it's really pretty on here also
IDK what font size this is
Android doesn't tell you
misty pier
huh
empty wren
GMK Deku over at Kono.
That actually does look sweet
halcyon moss
truetype on windows is still best
wheat plume
fair gull
damn just boring crap
shadow minnow
I Hope more games are going to support DLSS, even 2.0 is already so good (no quality lose, just FPS boost), so DLSS 3.0 could be even better, but tbh, even 2.0 is good enough, just if it supported more more games.
ashen spindle
man you just eat up marketing for breakfast don't you
shadow minnow
...
No I do not
I just watch real numbers, if I trusted marketing, I would think intel laptop i7 is better than ryzen 9
Why do you not like DLSS 2.0 so much? Comparisons show some FPS boost. DLSS 1.0 was not good, but 2.0 imo really is good.
ashen spindle
I never said I dont like it
I just dont buy the marketing that there is no quality loss because that's just false
shadow minnow
I am not saying there is no quality lose, but imo it is not very noticeable
ashen spindle
you literally said no quality loss
ashen spindle
then say it's pretty good and doesnt have a lot of noticeable issue, not "no quality lose, just FPS boos" thats a pretty big differencem and it still looks worse in some cases, there are just less of them now
shadow minnow
I mean, you lose noticeably nothing, and gain FPS. Simply said, I mean you lose less, and gain more.
ashen spindle
then say that and don't say that it is flawless
shadow minnow
It is not. But it is quite good.
empty wren
DLSS may be cool but if Nvidia actually has a separate chip on the Ampere cards, Ray Tracing should not kill the frame rate so much.
ashen spindle
it will be much better but there wont be a sperate chip
empty wren
Hmm well okay
misty pier
dlss is noticeable for me at least
I don’t really run it on often and the fps gains aren’t that much
wheat plume
How do I display the dataset inside a datagrid in c#?
I know how to do it when the SQL query only uses 1 table but my join query uses 3 tables so idk what to do here
I have a method I use to return a dataset with the sql query results but it wont work for this
ashen spindle
so its basically 3 of these things? does it need an array then?
wheat plume
I am supposed to use an SQL join query
do I need to put that line 3 times with each table?
ashen spindle
could be idk, you need to look at what the functions do, I've never used them
if it just takes one table everytime then yeah that sounds like a plan, but maybe there is one that returns an array of the tables
wheat plume
now it doesnt crash but no data shows on the grid
IM STUPID......
I changed that line to just da.Fill(ds)
then where I called that method to fill the datagrid, I added .Tables[0] to the end of that and it works now....
ashen spindle
so you were trying to fill the datagrid with an array of tables instead of just one, makes sense
wheat plume
idk why this works though
since I dont need the tables part for my other ones that have only a single table
grdRecordPayment.DataSource = Renewals.getRecordPaymentInformation().Tables[0];
ashen spindle
because the other ones are a single table and not an array I assume
wheat plume
yeah
shadow minnow
For who are you building it?
reef patrol
My cousin. 🙂
His second PC. Built him a ... I think it was an 7600K / RX480 a few years ago that the wife inherits.
wheat plume
how do I add entries from a dataset into a combobox?
I cant find a solution that works
ashen spindle
... ComboBox.Text? Combobox.Items? idk what the entry is
wheat plume
I have a dataset filled with rows from a database table
I want to add those rows into a combo box
fair gull
java?
ashen spindle
c#
fair gull
i cant see sharp
ashen spindle
turn off motion blur
wheat plume
:') ffs
fair gull
no work in reallife
wheat plume
and depth of field
fair gull
got glasses module tho
wheat plume
ah yeh
ashen spindle
so what you do is, you take a look at what these entires are, if they are strings, a custom class whatever, then look at the documentation of combobox and check where you can add/insert/replace/etc. the thing you have
wheat plume
they are strings
wheat plume
I know how to add them into it, I did it before
but the code to get the data from the database table was in the same class
fair gull
or addrange to add an array of entries
wheat plume
im not allowed to have that code in the same class as the combo boxes
fair gull
so just instanciate an object of that class and get the data
fair gull
use the class like ure supposed to
wheat plume
cause the method returns it
ashen spindle
so create an instance of the class and call the method?
I dont think I understand the issue
wheat plume
I have a method that gets all the memberIDs from the member's table
it puts them into a dataset and returns that dataset to the method call
wheat plume
I want to fill a combo box with the data from that set
idk how to do that
I did it before but the code was all in the same class but I am told not to do that now
ashen spindle
yes so you do MyClass x = new Myclass(); then x.method
fair gull
()
ashen spindle
are classes not a concept in java?
fair gull
they are
crimson wigeon
but what if method here is actually a really clever property, then ye don't need the ()
fair gull
that would require a hack pmuch with getters and setters
altho it is doable but not prefered id say
crimson wigeon
whatever it takes to not have to put in those pesky parenthesis
ashen spindle
Im just so confused, if you worked with java before, did you never need to make a class instance?
wheat plume
ashen spindle
it cant find the golf table?
wheat plume
it should.... hmmm wtf
ashen spindle
then use the debugger and find out why its not there
you have an extremely powerfull debugging tool, make use of it whenever you can, it makes it so much easier
wheat plume
it can find the table
I just put a test datagrid into the form to see and it loads in the member id into it
ashen spindle
then at some point previously it doesnt copy or assign it correctly or smth like that
put a breakpoint to where you first create or get the thing, then step through and figure you whats going on
short cove
I am in a slight dilemma
wheat plume
hm?
short cove
I want to upgrade my PC, I originally purchased a Dell G3 as it was my best option at the time, now 2 years later I'm thinking what might I upgrade to and I'm unsure about upgrading to a desktop or another laptop
I basically have a simple workstation setup with the laptop serving as a second screen
shadow minnow
Do you travel with ur laptop a lot?
short cove
I'm mainly thinking if the second screen is worth it
But yeah I did some research into m.ITX and shit
shadow minnow
You can still keep the laptop as both second screen and computer
While connecting desktop to main screen
short cove
I suppose
wheat plume
it didnt work ;-; it causes another issue
idk what data type that is when I select it so when trying to convert it to an int to send to the database it crashes
short cove
Why are laptops so shit in value
Hmm now that I think of it I might actually need a laptop for school some day
Fair point
Idk I feel like my programme might benefit from an actual laptop
My current laptop is Basically unusable for the task
Because a) it's 3.3 fucking kilos
B) it has dogshit SoT
shadow minnow
@short cove if you’d need a laptop then, just use the one you have now
Sorry, I am always confused which is which
reef patrol
I have fewer saunas than Fleimi. And then he slapped me with a stick for not owning any.
wheat plume
vagrant marsh
well, appearently upvolting the ram didnt work after all
my pc just crashed out of nowhere and then had another bios reset
so ive now pulled my soundcard from it. and now im actually hoping the pc will crash, because that would mean my soundcard isnt at fault.
i got it at the original 3600 clock with the xmp profile and everything auto
the first thing i notice is how the fans arnt as loud when the pc started. they really were turning at full speed for a second when i started the pc. now, they only seem to go to half speed before slowing down
sadly for me, im one of those people that got hit by the realtek bug, where the realtek audio manager doesnt work after a certain update
had to figure out how to fix that for the past half hour XD
ashen spindle
man I really was considering going with amd for my next gpu this year
but uh
"Launching VR applications using the Oculus Rift™ headset may cause corruption or a system hang on Radeon RX 5000 series graphics products."
how the fuck are these still possible issues
ivory geyser
Because people shitcode.
ashen spindle
yeah but like, man get your shit together amd, I was about to go back now I need to wait a bit to make sure a new gpu doesnt corrupt my system lmao
vagrant marsh
How does that even work
Gpu corrupting your system through vr
That sounds like something intentional
ashen spindle
I mean drivers have pretty deep access levels because they need them
not quite sure what corruption means in this case, of the application, of the gpu/driver or the entire system
either one sucks but some are fixed with just a restart
god I just hope the software help AMD is getting via the supercomputer contracts is actually useful lmao
amazing hardware, fully butchered by shit software (and self harming marketing but thats another point)
shadow minnow
Could it be Nvidia Ampere? 👀
It says write into your calendar
This photo is just under 2 local Nvidia instagrams, search for # pixelgeneration
Also, looks like local ASUS ig confirming sth about that leaked design of 3080 ti
Look at description
@ivory geyser might understand text on first photo
shadow minnow
They have different shop logo on other Instagram
But that may be some tease of ampere
If they just added get Amped to it
old marlin
inb4 is the 3050
fr though might be like a 3060 or something
or next gen is crazy efficient
which would be nice
ashen spindle
almost guaranteed to not be 3060 just because its unlikely they will have that sku on launch
old marlin
could be yea
also wouldn't hinder asus to just show off their cooler
also went back to towel under keyboard
pure bliss
shadow minnow
Many companies were hinting mobos/GPUs before, and why would they say people to not google that thing when they exactly knew
asus 3080
two slots
@prisma crag that is 3080 on Instagram image, because they did not want to show that leaked one right on Instagram. They just told people where to find it.
They told do not google...
And when you google it
You get that 3080 ti leaked design articles
shadow minnow
discord explain
Why would it just use clipboard, when no other app did
(Translation ** Discord - pasted from app Safari **)
ivory geyser
Because you are not supposed to use Apple stuff with Discord
shadow minnow
I mean, this update revealed how many apps are using clipboard
ivory geyser
Ohh
shadow minnow
Best are companies that are saying that it is not intended bug
fair gull
psure discord checks clipboard for invites
pale sigil
Afaik no?
fair gull
the iphone dev team works in misterious ways
crimson wigeon
until now the clipboard has been free real estate..
plush summit
lol
short cove
Say I want to get a GPU that can run most games at high settings at ~144Hz a 70 series GPU is what I should go for yes?
Don't even need RT
ashen spindle
70 series? whats that
pale sigil
i think they are on about a possible 7050 or something
ashen spindle
the fuck is a 7050
anyway, wait at least till the 15th, we have some teasers that indicate we might get info from nvidia about the new gpu series
halcyon moss
i think he means a 2070 or a 1670
reef patrol
1670? xD
halcyon moss
uhh that one doesnt exist i guess :p
short cove
2070/3070 etc
ashen spindle
1080p/1440p/4k?
short cove
1080p
ashen spindle
ye a 2070 super should do the job, aside from a couple titles
but again, wait at least till the 15th
short cove
Price is generally around 1.3-1.5k if I want to pair it with an R7 yes?
ashen spindle
we get new gpus this year but no solid date on them yet, for CPU either get a 3300x/3600 a 10600k or a high end R9/i9
other cpus for gaming dont make much sense imo
short cove
Is R7 bad value?
ashen spindle
for purely gaming yes
short cove
Hmm ok
ashen spindle
you basically get nothing more in most cases
short cove
So only R9 would offer enough of a meaningful difference ok
ashen spindle
ehhh not really
short cove
Hmm I think I can spare about 2k if I am to get an R9
ashen spindle
R5 you mean?
short cove
I want my PC to last 4 years but I never actually got a desktop before
I checked prices and R9 isn't that expensive
ashen spindle
do you want/need to get it now or can it wait till Q3/4?
ashen spindle
then wait, new cpus from amd and gpus from both nvidia and amd that should all be quite a nice upgrade coming this year
ashen spindle
ye and the releases should be good hardware for quite a while
short cove
But then since I can just progressively upgrade desktops in general I feel like the way how I approach it would be different
ashen spindle
ye you can get a cpu/gpu that is not the absoulte high end but get a better one when you need it a few years later etc.
shadow minnow
What GPU to get to run 120 FPS
Only problem
At 4K
Hope Ampere will be powerful enough
shadow minnow
More like all high adventure games
With RT on (ampere should be good enough for RT)
Hope ampere will have HDMI 2.1 and DP2.0 UHBR 20
fair gull
cause so many ganes have rt
shadow minnow
Want that HDMI 2.1 for now to at least run 4K 10bpc monitor at 120hz without compression
misty pier
I was going to get a r9 3900x at launch but I made up my mind and went with the 3700x 😂
didn’t think a lot of units were for sale around launch day as well
zenith sonnet
There was plenty stock at launch
They just sold
I was going for a 3950X initially
But getting one at launch... no chance
Got a 3700X as well and I'll upgrade to Zen 3 after it's been out for a month or two
vagrant marsh
i got the 3600 cause it was a good price at only 170 bucks, plus, like you, i also upgrade to a ryzen 4000 after it launches
i cant remember any time i bought a high tier intel cpu for only 170 bucks
empty wren
cause so many ganes have rt
And even then Ray Tracing has different categories and most games have I think a single category checked off
misty pier
don't know if it's worth just selling and moving on up to 4000 though
vagrant marsh
ashen spindle
given about 95%+ care about the fps, yes they can price it on that part
nova carbon
If they don't increase price to performance by a lot this gfx generation the next gen consoles are going to be such good value, they generally are anyways but if you can get an entire system for a lot less than a comparable desktop gpu by itself i will be sad
shadow minnow
LG OLED ones do
shadow minnow
Is there any usb ambient light sensor that you can connect to PC, and configure to adjust monitor brightness based on light level?
fair gull
sounds like a project for an arduino
shadow minnow
Was not sure if it possible to just integrate arduino with controlling pc functions... but it looks like it is
https://create.arduino.cc/projecthub/haoming-weng/tutorial-control-the-screen-brightness-automatically-c94bc5
Guess I will do something similar
thick elk
I assume it also depends on if ddc controls work properly on your monitor which is still a decent if
fair gull
just gamma control windows
easy
no need for monitor ddc
the tutorial even does system gamma ramping
old marlin
@fickle ore
well, choice should be very clear now
P300A is 53.52 euros, although that only has one fan in the back and none in the front
ashen spindle
What’s the cost of the 400 on caseking for comparison?
old marlin
hey
that actually competes
so it basically is if you prefer the looks of the p400a over the build quality of the lancool II
ashen spindle
hm the Mira is finally on amzon
ashen spindle
but my issues with my finalmouse also are just gone for a while 
ashen spindle
well yea, dont need a new mouse for now lul
old marlin
there might be a good competitor 
ashen spindle
though I almost just want to send it back bc that fucking support guy
old marlin
ashen spindle
but cant really do it now that its not broken anymore
I'll just hope once the issues come back the mira is in stock or a similar one is availible
ashen spindle
yeye
wheat plume
misty saffron
anyone got apple tv?
how convenient is it, given most of my devices are apple?
i expect to be able to airplay youtube videos and use my airpods
shadow minnow
It should be possible. If I remember correctly, you can even connect your phone to controller and Apple TV, and have game from mobile (if you have iPhone) playing on whatever you connect to Apple TV playing with controller.
misty saffron
pretty sure the games run on apple tv itself
ios, ipados and tvos are essentially the same thing
just different ui
shadow minnow
But there is also ability to “stream” games for mobile
fickle ore
@old marlin yeah it 94,99€ here in finland with free shipping
It's cheaper and better than P500A so might aswell get it
short cove
Does undervolting fuck with games?
crimson wigeon
Well if you undervolt too much it'll fuck with everything...
short cove
Something must be wrong with my system because it has huge lagging issues with F1 2020
ashen spindle
I mean it can make it unstable just like overclocking can
pale sigil
still cant get over the fact i can play beat saber over the wifi.... full on wireless, pc beat saber.
Also i had my first vr casualty today...
wheat plume
oo?
pale sigil
Ye, my new light shade is no more.
Pretty much
i was more worred about the bulb
xD
Smart bulbs are pricy
i also need to figure out how to deal with sweat
wheat plume
OO ;-;
wheat plume
win 10 looked so different in 2014 :O my gosh
wheat plume
you can get this menu design in current builds?
reef patrol
Aside from moving the system icons around, that's pretty much normal.
wheat plume
without any software?
reef patrol
Yes you can force it to show the oldschool program files list and tiles next to it.
wheat plume
oo
I wish they kept the opening animation from this build
its subtle and really nice
reef patrol
wheat plume
not really
reef patrol
What are the differences then? 😛
reef patrol
Search bar is because I didn't bother to enable it 😄
wheat plume
no no, the search bar in the menu, not on the tadskbar
reef patrol
Yes...
crimson wigeon
tiles with those fancy subtle gradients
pale sigil
C@wheat plume i preffered that one
wheat plume
huh?
wheat plume
ooohhh
why did they remove the open animation? ;-;
it would be nice to still have it
crimson wigeon
Because start was completely rewritten since that build and things never were the same
wheat plume
no, the opening animations for app windows
crimson wigeon
Because simple fades are too simple
wheat plume
but it was pretty
it pops out when you dont want it to pop out
wish I had a Pixel ;-;
to try this out
Seems stable enough for daily use
ashen spindle
I really don’t get why you are studying programming instead of something like zu design tbh, seems like you really are into that part everywhere
empty wren
Seems stable enough for daily use
So was beta 1 and technically all you need is a device that can use a GSI.
wheat plume
I have a project treble phone
but it isnt meant to be getting android 11
So it would have to be ported from some other phone that would get it
wheat plume
oh yeh
the version with the ugly android kitkat style search bars
guessing I want the 1st one?
misty pier
i kinda have mines arranged like I have it on manjaro
dont really need a bunch of stuff on the start menu anyways
i have all the programs i access often on my taskbar so
i don't need to check in there often
halcyon moss
what is a start menu? :p
misty saffron
is this where lanaposting goes now
vagrant marsh
@misty pier how did you get those icons to be in the middle of the taskbar?
misty pier
i use a program that's similar to taskbarx
i think taskbarx lets you center it like that too
ashen spindle
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-rumored-to-retire-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-super-and-geforce-rtx-2070-super-graphics-cards-soon so 2ish months till release?
ashen spindle
november is unlikely, not hitting any holidays/sales days there, august most likely for announcement bc thats where gamescom would've been
and yea, it's normal for new gens to not have much beyond the fouders editions/AiBs with the same pcb
then get a cheap design on release and custom cool it :p
I mean, thats what people do for a watercooled card so just do taht :p
fair gull
nothing
ashen spindle
I mean you can save money if you buy fittings from home depot that fit
I thinks thats an american store right?
fair gull
yes
fair gull
and prob the whole deal of buying good quality shit so it doesnt leak everywhere
like a drip or 2 in ur coffee maker arent bad
a drip or 2 in ur pc are
i mean jus use hose clamps
done
no need for special fittings
plumbing is usually soldered tho isnt it
weird most of the plumbing in my apartment is soldered
the only things not soldered is washing machine
and shower head
and the faucets
ya no im not made out of gold bars
altho then i could do full rgb house
reef patrol
Gotta link your Ubi account to Twitch and then set up drops on Twitch.
And yes - Ubi's servers are dead due to overload.
pale sigil
outstanding
thick elk
the link on the twitch channel does seem to work
never mind it's stuck on loading for nw
pale sigil
what a complete shitshow
thick elk
They want to give you the opportunity to buy micro transactions and still manage to mess it up.
thick elk
I have not played the first one but yea it's a pretty good giveaway.
reef patrol
You've had ages to do this 😄
reef patrol
They made an FAQ ahead of time and everything.
pale sigil
what? they never?
ye it literally said this
login during the stream
Meh
its only Watch Dogs 2
reef patrol
thick elk
twitch did notify being eligable so it may still be redeemable after it
kind of funny how a prerecorded marketing video is playing while chat just spams can't login
thick elk
oh wait it says link your account to be eligible
plush summit
gg
reef patrol
pale sigil
Ubisoft are looking weak af
Another batlle royal game.... from ubisoft of all people.....
ashen spindle
they have two?
ashen spindle
I mean you just said another br game from them
pale sigil
Another br game in general
ashen spindle
.. you know hyperscape has been a thing for a week now?
plush summit
ubisoft ubilimp ubihard
pale sigil
looks so shit
ashen spindle
aside from the part where the last webcomic has been missing for like years now 
thick elk
Typical problem for the big game companies:
Genre is popular, makes a game in the genre to follow the hype. Generally that doesn't bode too well.
pale sigil
i want twitch to burn
ashen spindle
so youtube just has everything related to game streaming? idk if I'd like that
pale sigil
Most likely my side issue but there is an audio delay
ashen spindle
ctrl F5, if that doesnt fix it it's most likely an issue on the streamers end, not the website
pale sigil
doesn't fix it
nvm
fixed it
im so used to doing ctrl + r
lol
real gameplay? madness
pale sigil
i dont see much of an improvement here
reef patrol
Ah yes - Warrior druids. I remember those from the history books.
pale sigil
I dont get how this is still going
i mean obviously they sell enough copies to keep making not assassins' creed games
reef patrol
I swear to god if this has levels too I'm going to rant to hard.
The Egypt game SUUUUUUUCKED for it.
pale sigil
i just wanna play a game not micro manage everything
reef patrol
Older Asscreed games didn't need it. Nor did GTA or RDR. Hell even Witcher doesn't do it like that.
pale sigil
take that back!
old marlin
reef patrol
I kind of wish they'd speak french with subtitles. The English is so bad 😄
old marlin
beyond good and evil?
pale sigil
ye
pale sigil
im allowed to hope
old marlin
well yea
thick elk
Looks very far cry to me
pale sigil
haha
old marlin
it is
reef patrol
I hope they bury BG&E forever and sell off the IP.
old marlin
was leaked
reef patrol
The trailers they've shown were SO goddamned bad.
pale sigil
we get to kill gus
old marlin
far cry 6 was leaked already
thick elk
Ah goes to show how little I care
old marlin
was in sea iirc?
reef patrol
Most likely a faux cuba.
pale sigil
i dont give a shit
thick elk
like always "leaked"
ivory geyser
I want Diablo 4
old marlin
lol
old marlin
diablo 3 was shit already
reef patrol
I used to enjoy Far Cry... till FC5.
pale sigil
they picked a perfect actor
thick elk
I do enjoy far cry from time to time but it most certainly is not a game I'd play full price for
reef patrol
4 had a shit ending. So did 5 and .... I honestly couldn't play the 5½.
thick elk
I think I played like half of 5
pale sigil
like mot even kidding
thick elk
the one after that not at all
old marlin
but even gameplay wise 5 was the biggest downfall
reef patrol
Just throw the damn grenade, kid.
pale sigil
i hated bullet sponge in fc5
thick elk
The first one is still the one I liked the most, but then again that was basically crysis 0.5
reef patrol
It's a pre-render. Anyone can do that these days 😄
old marlin
the one for watchdogs was shit
pale sigil
thats what im complimenting
old marlin
reef patrol
I still cringe when I remember the "Classroom" Legion trailers.
reef patrol
Meh.
pale sigil
lol
old marlin
no just dance is a win in my book
reef patrol
Zzzzzz.....
old marlin
what did you expect tbh
reef patrol
I was expecting something other than automated trailers. Oh - Talk of which. Finally something.
thick elk
Having a twitch Q and A at the end would have been a good option
pale sigil
ubisoft login is back up
reef patrol
Yeeeep. Looks like Valhalla is another skip. It's too stat heavy.
thick elk
I played a bit of assassins creed 1 and then a bit of 2, liked neither and then gave up on the games.
reef patrol
"this rusty axe has 50 more DPS than your golden hammer. Because it's level 20"
thick elk
I played it like a stealth game and really don't like it when a game is like stealth failed, oh well just butten mash your way to victory.
ashen spindle
thats a nice way to blame a ceo for an entire team failing to notice something and then do hardcore crunch voluntarely
foggy solstice
I guess that happens when all of Ubisoft's QA is literally just a kid.
old marlin
kinda sad that it apaprently went through playtesting without noticing it
I kinda hope none of their new releases do well
they currently get carried by assassins creed
ashen spindle
thats not on QA, its either the entire team not noticing it, or management blocking changes
you forgetting R6?
old marlin
doesn't make a lot of money
at least a positive amount though
division 2 had like 8% of the expected returns in it;s release quarter
ashen spindle
settlers/anno is doing quite well
old marlin
not well enough
they had some BAD quarters behind them
I personally don;t see that legion will do well
hopefully far cry 6 gets rid of the stupid features 5 and new dawn added
pale sigil
haha ye
old marlin
I wish I was joking
ashen spindle
I think it was splinter cell? where they released a new title somewhat recently, people weren't amazed and as feedback they literally delayed other titles and hired new people to rework them etc. I feel like thats quite a good thing they did, we just need to wait if it was enough
old marlin
I mean
the predecessor was problematic
the new title is just bad
and a buggy mess
I tried the open beta
was a mess
pale sigil
i dont like ubi games
ashen spindle
I just feel like them admitting stuff needs to change and doing stuff is enough for now, its not realistic to expect for them to completely stop releasing stuff for a while
old marlin
well
they did that multiple times already
and uhhh
well assassins creed turned into an rpg
instead of a stealth game
ashen spindle
I dont recall them multiple times delaying stuff and hiring multiple senior/lead dev people to rework stuff?
old marlin
nah wasn't like that in the past
but they admitted their problems
and stopped releasing a new ac every year
for a while at least
ashen spindle
well yeah I only count this recent one bc they actaully spend money and resources to change stuff
old marlin
well
they had some good ones
in r6 siege you could have at least put a cursor on your headgear
oh and eyeliner
totally intended
didn't took quite a while to fix
empty wren
totally intended
Sounds like a mistake I would make if I had to put some kinda of media together in a day 😂😂
bronze ether
any recommendable cpu cooler? currently still using the stock one (3600)
pale sigil
I mean the stock cooler is decent
bronze ether
ye but just decent
ashen spindle
Noctua nh-d 15 I’d you want to go overkill
But you’re not really going to notice a difference unless you’re like super sensible to sound and want to lower fan rpm
thick elk
what are you planning to spend?
bronze ether
least possible
thick elk
stay with the stock cooler :P
thick elk
wait the stock cooler is blocking a ram slot?
thick elk
I see
thick elk
the be quiet! Pure Rock 2 seemed like a decent option.
But it's been a while since I researched the more budget cooling options
I also see the Gelid Solutions Phantom being really cheap where I live like € 34 at hat price it would probably be a good option as well
It really also depends on local pricing a lot
note that ram clearance makes the later probably not a good choice for you though
Oh yea that could be done as well: https://youtu.be/9M2-UIwWguw?t=70
you can basically turn it 90 degrees like that
bronze ether
oh lol interesting to know
but still, this thing is loud af (and doesnt have great temps)
pale sigil
@bronze ether hyper 212 is cheap and quiet
bronze ether
ok
shadow minnow
Kinda surprised me
I5 10600k was quite better than I excepted in games
For some titles, it even was not worst value for people who are gonna heavily OC
thick elk
the hyper 212 is certainly not bad but it is rather old and there should be better options.
For example the Arctic freezer esports 34
or the pure rock 2
thick elk
depends on how much it costs
thick elk
yea, it is.
regional prices are a big thing here, for example where I live it costs €45 including shipping which makes it a bad deal
bronze ether
rip
shadow minnow
I like when coolers can show stats
thick elk
still there are generally better options than the 212 which as been around since forever
shadow minnow
Like nzxt z73, or aorus one
I do not understand one thing. Why did they make arctic liquid cooler 2 look so bad. It is best aio, but looks so bad. Wish it looked better, even if it costed 50$ more.
bronze ether
ig i will go with the fortis 3
do you think using just the 1 fan provided with it is enough, or should i use another fan or add one?
thick elk
I think one should be fine.
ashen spindle
could wait a bit for zen3
?
zen3 should launch in time even with factoring a second covid wave in
what do you need that you cant find it on a board below 300
I don't think your mindset of "it just needs to run" is what most peopel are looking for
thick elk
I enjoy overclocking so I at least take something where I can max things out without overheating the mobo.
As for taking the cheapest there are situations where you really should not do that.
ashen spindle
I mean but thats kinda what you need to think for the cheapest board to always be enough
short cove
Ok get this, the moment I started looking at whether I should upgrade to a desktop
My fucking laptop decided to burn itself
ashen spindle
sound, 1gig/2.5gig network, usb ports, usb type c, NVME slot etc.
thick elk
accepts cpu also means in case you take something high powered: does not overheat.
ashen spindle
good VRM if you dont have the lowest end cpu to have lower temperatures etc.
also, rip your laptop
thick elk
In my case it had to fit my case fans quite a lot / support my 8700k@5ghz.
So I ended up with a €200 mobo. Because the cheapest I could go was not that much cheaper.
that being said at work I do often get pretty much the cheapest things. Be it about € 10 above the actual price floor.
short cove
How the fuck does a laptop just decide to burn itself
ashen spindle
is it a macbook?
short cove
No
The charging port area just started fucking smoking
It's a dell G3
Is this god telling me to get a desk top
I don't
ashen spindle
you forget the 200euro has tax included, us prices dont so the shown prices are usually quite close
thick elk
at the current rate including tax $ 200 is actually a bit more
that being said we have less import fees from china
How old is your laptop actually?
short cove
@ashen spindle so I should look into 4600 then