Why am I not surprised
#πβtech
pale sigil
zenith sonnet
It seems this rollout is being a lot smoother than most others
ashen spindle
it's better than the last two big fuckups lol still not better than it used to be
pale sigil
That is true π€£
pale sigil
Anyone here with a 3d printer or know someone? preferably uk/eu
ashen spindle
does your local library have one perhaps?
fair gull
what u need
pale sigil
fair gull
why not use one of those online order services
pale sigil
cos they cost a fortune or require min order
wheat plume
fair gull
those didnt deliver to everyone anyway
its basically a scam
the only people afaik who actually got one are reviewers
wheat plume
^^ yup
reef patrol
Who the f... is Escobar
wheat plume
the drug dealer
reef patrol
.... what?
wheat plume
who made millions by drugs
and now hes scamming people selling phones they wont send you
wheat plume
wheat plume
:')
pale sigil
Can someone assassinate my weight
reef patrol
wheat plume
ooo gimme
wheat plume
could you get one with a 2060 with that price?
ashen spindle
easily
zenith sonnet
@vagrant marsh usually, that your system is unstable
vagrant marsh
Hmm. Im trying to oc my 3600. It passed 4.4 on 1.325v.
Guess 4.5 is too much
according to cpuid core voltage during aida64 stress test is only 1.284 at most, so i think i can take that even lower
i find it weird that cinebench crashes but aida64 stresstest does nothing.
i find this weird. when i used ryzen master earlier, it did a max overclock of 4.3, and for some reason that caused all kinds of issues for my pc, where at the end i had to reset windows in order to fix it.
what is pbo?
im not sure, i just clicked on auto overclock and that went to 4.3
im not sure i used this pbo
4.4ghz on 1.3v, temp is around 70
its weird. when im on idle the core voltage is 1.282, but when in use its 1.248.
torpid monolith
All things considered the laptop isn't bad at all
ashen spindle
with renoir released? heavy disagree
zenith sonnet
@vagrant marsh You might be aiming too high
For actual usage, go with PBO +200 MHz, and higher current limits
Classic all-core OC aren't benefitting Ryzen all that much
I'm actually using my 3700X at stock settings, outside of benchmarks even PBO didn't add much real world performance
vagrant marsh
im not sure
i just did 8 passes on cinebench 20 and 4.4 on 1.300 volts seem to be stable
zenith sonnet
Single thread score?
vagrant marsh
need to test that
zenith sonnet
1.3V is a hell of a lot of juice for a Zen2 CPU
70Β°C is really streching it there
vagrant marsh
cpuid says that when its in use, its only 1.
it says the max it used so far (this is with the all core test) is only 1.275
zenith sonnet
Alright
But you certainly don't wanna go higher than that
vagrant marsh
im not
ashen spindle
software voltage readings on almost every board are not accurate, so that might very well be 1.3
vagrant marsh
well, my pc doesnt crash so i guess my voltage is higher than neccesary
zenith sonnet
What voltage Ryzen can handle heavily depends on current, and temperature
hard thicket
pbo is useless change my mind
zenith sonnet
Degradations comes silently
vagrant marsh
meh
vagrant marsh
70/71*C doesnt seem too hot
hard thicket
well on my customloop all i get is more draw
zenith sonnet
Zen 2 likes to stay at 50Β°C
hard thicket
likes doesnt mean it should
vagrant marsh
i have a be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4, its one of the bigger air coolers
zenith sonnet
Those chips are more temperature sensitive than you think
hard thicket
50c can't be even reached on a dual 360mm rad
without tweaking atleast
and it's heavily dependent on the binning of your unit
some people can't get lower than 90 under a custom loop
vagrant marsh
i think above 80 is hot tho. if i remember correctly my 6700k did 1.46 at 1.320v
did 80+
ashen spindle
you can not compare voltages between different cpu architectures AT ALL
hard thicket
^+
vagrant marsh
single core score of 508
according to guru3d, the single core score is usually 462
hard thicket
silicon lottery is a thing
my 3900x also boosts up to 4650mhz while some people dont even reach the 4450's
shame that there is such a big variation on binning
hard thicket
and some people can do that with 1.28v
vagrant marsh
well, if i believe hwinfo, i only need 1.275 for the 4.4 clock π
and if i was adventurous, i would try it, but i wont
hard thicket
Ehh i wouldn't trust on voltage monitoring anything but cpuZ and master
has been even confirmed from AMD
vagrant marsh
im not gonna install ryzen master ever again. i had to do a windows reset to get rid of that garbage
hard thicket
lemme guess you tried to memory OC over it ?
ashen spindle
even then, unless the board has special circuitry, no software can read the voltages accurately
hard thicket
some people bricked their mainboards that way
vagrant marsh
no, i didnt try anything memory related with the ryzen master, but it did cause memory problems.
computer sometimes got stuck in a boot cycle on memory
hard thicket
yeah it was obnoxious in the beginning, but currently it's quite stable actually
i also suffered with it on my x570 when it was fresh released
i can even memory OC over it
without bricking things
and it is more or less the best way to monitor temperatures also, there is a huge amount of variations when it comes to temperature
vagrant marsh
well, i guess im happy. so my max oc is 4.4 on 1.3v. idle temp has increased alot tho. i think it was only 35. now its lowest is 37
average is between 38 and 41
too bad the turbo boost doesnt work beyond its specs. atleast not when simple BIOS overclocking.
3600 single core stock score of 462. 4.4ghz score is 508. which is 10% increase.
3600 all core stock score of 3421. 4.4ghz score is 3836, which is 12% increase
the cinebench score of a stock 3600x is 3714. so my cpu at 4.4 is better than a stock 3600x
vagrant marsh
isnt there also the point of electronic waste, making cpu's like the 3000G that no1 is gonna use anyway
feral jolt
i suppose half those skus are wifi/nonwifi versions
ashen spindle
most of the sales are for OEM's and those often want a variant with just one thing removed so they can save a lot on mass buying
thus many sku's come out
vagrant marsh
yea. i mean, the price difference between the 3100 and the 3300x is only 20 bucks, but the 3300x performs way better. makes me wonder if the 3100 is really neccesary. and now amd seems to announce 'refreshed' cpu's. 3700xt, 3800xt and 3900xt. i mean, sure, to sell more cpu's, but its not really neccesary with the ryzen 4000 coming at the end of year.
ashen spindle
you don't know the difference between 3100 and 3300 do you
vagrant marsh
Something with the ccx.
ashen spindle
3300 is only one chiplet, the other one two, hence worse, but cheaper bc you only need half the working cores for each chiplet
wheat plume
ooo this looks great https://www.kdevelop.org/
fallow bison
incorrect that look like a mutant notepad
wheat plume
vagrant marsh
There we go
My pc just crashed while playing mw5
π©
So 4.4 also aint stable
I think im gonna auto everything again in bios. The extra heat gen aint worth it in this weather
vagrant marsh
thought that might have been a voltage spike that hit the 1.3v limit and that caused the crash. could try 1.31 next. but i wont. ive put bios on default and auto, tho i did kept the voltage at 1.3v. at auto, it ran just as hot as my 4.4ghz overclock weirdly. now at 1.3v it runs at 63c instead of 71
pale sigil
wtf@wheat plume
wheat plume
huh?
pale sigil
the video
wheat plume
its a shady software :/
pale sigil
i get the concept
but its just so unethical
unless used internally
even then its bad
wheat plume
yeh....
misty pier
my college makes me use something like that
somehow it's smart enough to know that you are trying to run it in a VM as well
wheat plume
oo
misty pier
bit the bullet and installed it on my main OS
wheat plume
ono
misty pier
it's real shady though, not on the level as that one above you sent
misty pier
the one i use uhh
can track you via webcam and microphone activity but i blocked those
wheat plume
noice
frozen anchor
what is happening to my monitor these are the same colors left to right...
wheat plume
Uhhhhhhh
young flicker
Suck it nerd.
pale sigil
@empty wren but its fortnite
frozen anchor
Colorblind monitor
vast moss
I quite enjoy Groove Coaster
frozen anchor
@reef patrol yeah somehow unplugging and plugging it back in managed to fix it...
ashen spindle
@old marlin did you have to look into cctv stuff now? thought I now did not need to look into it, I do (again) need to lookt into it now lmao
ashen spindle
rip
actually insane how convoluted stuff gets if I dont want to use nest/ring stuff
fickle ore
Does anyone know whether gamedevelopers can see if I stream their game on Discord?
Does it use a .dll or hook the game.exe somehow?
ashen spindle
unless they add something very specific no
fickle ore
how does it work?
ashen spindle
streaming a game?
fickle ore
yea
ashen spindle
it should just capture your video feed and stream that
fickle ore
alright cheers ;P
crimson wigeon
Why do you ask? You wanting to share things you're not supposed to? π
timid chasm
If you're in the game discord server it may show if Discord picks up the game. Otherwise I believe it just says Sharing their screen
It says what mine says if it picks up the game
if game activity is off
zenith sonnet
Hm
CB R20 1T went up from 505 with PBO to 508 without OC on my 3700X
Huh
nT score went up from 4757 with PBO+200MHz, no current limit
to 4778 with all stock settings
That's interesting
torpid monolith
Who here owns a 3d printer and do you guys reccomend it for playing around with keyboards and switches?
Mainly for fun
reef patrol
No and no.
torpid monolith
Still need one to make some coat hangers in minecraft tho
empty wren
in that case why not build it in minecraft?
torpid monolith
You didn't get the joke
empty wren
:S
torpid monolith
I'll dm it to you
empty wren
i think i played myself
wheat plume
wheat plume
this is a functional jailbreak but has conditions you need to work around
empty wren
tethered you mean
wheat plume
to get it to reenable jailbreak you open the app, click re jailbreak and itll activate again
empty wren
oh semitethered i think that is
wheat plume
and you only have 7 days before you need to login and verify again unless you use another app
empty wren
developer certificate?
wheat plume
yeah thatll work for you if you have it
thick elk
While nice that there is another jailbreak, I personally prefer to stick to an operating system that doesn't try to stop modified versions.
Or more importantly sideloading
empty wren
all that upsets is that there are nice on iPhones that Android does not get
but yeah one system is basically linux while the other is" do things our way"
wheat plume
While nice that there is another jailbreak, I personally prefer to stick to an operating system that doesn't try to stop modified versions.
@thick elk you may appreciate Xiaomi then. They don't care if you unlock the bootloader or install a custom rom as long as you used miui for at least a week
empty wren
no warranty loss?
empty wren
even if my phone starts thermonuclear war?
wheat plume
Xd
empty wren
oh okay that makes sense
Unless it's because of the OS you installed but hardware repair is fine
samsung or actually htc has a tick system that goes off
on a samsung phone i am pretty sure it would turn into a brick if it is the us variant
wheat plume
Oo what
wheat plume
O..
empty wren
and because modifying is seen as evil no matter context
wheat plume
I heard you need something called Odin to modify anything on Samsung
empty wren
yeah people use that to maybe chnage to a different variants software
wheat plume
wheat plume
lg has it the worst π
@empty wren LG never even provide software or security updated
You'll be on whatever Android version you got with the phone forever
Ooof
empty wren
me too
LG never even provide software or security updated
they do now at least better
empty wren
yes yes, just only on their newest phones though
wheat plume
Ah
Project mainline
empty wren
and may get the android beta in the next week or two
wheat plume
That's because Google force Android 10 to get security patched
empty wren
Samung uses the old updating system xDD
wheat plume
Ugh...
empty wren
not the A/B system
wheat plume
I hate Samsung a lot
empty wren
even on their newest phoness
wheat plume
IDK how to check if my phone is a/b
wheat plume
Ohh
I see this notification
empty wren
xDD
wheat plume
But I can use my phone while it's showing
empty wren
i think it got mismarketed
wheat plume
O
empty wren
try the app
wheat plume
empty wren
you got treble though
wheat plume
Ah
wheat plume
How? Xd
empty wren
well it installs in the background
and all you get is a notification
after rebooting
wheat plume
I meant how is only have one partition better than Samsung?
ashen spindle
tbh I prefer A/C
empty wren
why not DC
wheat plume
Why not ACDC?
empty wren
xDD
I meant how is only have one partition better than Samsung?
lemme check one second
wheat plume
Samsung OneUI is so clunky ;_
empty wren
actually you may have the same state something does but lemme ask you a question
so when you update, does it go to the recovery?
wheat plume
so when you update, does it go to the recovery?
@empty wren depend on the rom I'm using
I'm on pixel experience now and the update downloads the incremental update package and reboots you to recovery but I find it doesn't automatically flash it so I just do that myself
But miui didn't go to recovery it rebooted and showed a progress bar
On other roms I had to flash the entire new zip file for the rom
So redownload the entire new version and dirty flash
empty wren
ah so it still is the old system
wheat plume
Huh?
empty wren
well a/b
lets you do this downlaod the update
and it will install it in the background
then you reboot and then it confirms while it is rebooting that everything is fine
wheat plume
Oo
empty wren
there is no going into the recovery
you just reboot basically same time spent any tiem rebooting and it goes through
wheat plume
I only do recovery on non OEM roms
empty wren
okay
wheat plume
Even going to a custom miui version auto updates too
empty wren
well it has you wait right
wheat plume
Yup
empty wren
with a progress bar
wheat plume
Progress bar
empty wren
okay that is stock recovery
wheat plume
Stock recovery remains on the system when you have custom recovery??
wheat plume
Then it can't be stock recovery showing the progress bar
empty wren
yeah but with miui it is
wheat plume
But how?
empty wren
otherwise it should be your custom recovery
But how?
well there needs to be a recovery
wheat plume
Going back to miui didn't remove my custom recovery
empty wren
oh okay
wheat plume
I want to try seahawk recovery
it looks pretty and has more features
but effort...xd
wheat plume
indeed :D
empty wren
does it run janky?
wheat plume
I currently use OrangeFox recovery
ooo I forget the maintainer for seahawk is in the telegram channel for my phone
how could I forget that , hes so active in there
thats.....scary
they maintain software as important as recovery without having the actual device
thick elk
note to self: backup and upgrade to a newer rom
wheat plume
what you use rn?
empty wren
thats.....scary
they maintain software as important as recovery without having the actual device
they need the blobs are all set
bugs are another thing
thick elk
android 9 resurrection remix
wheat plume
O.o get Android 10!
I love ExtendedUI or Derpfest or more stock go for pixel experience or its plus version
thick elk
up until a few months ago the generic trebble roms where not stable enough
thick elk
those are not past android 9
wheat plume
which arent?
thick elk
ones made for my device specifically (ZTE Axon 7)
wheat plume
oo right
wheat plume
Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S
wheat plume
Why is every app I manually install in the orphan category on my package manager?
crimson wigeon
It doesn't belong to any repository
wheat plume
some are AUR packages but others are from the actal repos too
crimson wigeon
Packages from repositories become orphans if said package is removed from the repo later
crimson wigeon
Sounds like pacman being bad then
Not that I'm surprised, I recently decided to try Manjaro (shock!) and I'm really not impressed
wheat plume
oh pamac was being odd
these are the actual orphan packages
is safe to remove these?
crimson wigeon
oh wait
Maybe in this case orphans means packages that were installed as dependencies but no longer required
So entirely depends on whether you still need them
wheat plume
yeah thats what orphaned means in arch at least
zenith sonnet
I'm short sighted, but can use my phone without glasses at 15-20cm
Why would I need to wear glasses inside a VR headset?
young flicker
From what I could find quickly it's because the lenses are focused around 2 meters away, so if you can see fine at 2 meters you won't need them but any less and you will.
I personally need them for the image to be sharp and I can get by without my glasses in real life provided I don't need to be reading street signs while driving or anything like that.
zenith sonnet
I haven't ever used a VR headset
But it seems stupid to me that they add lenses that put the image out of focus
young flicker
It's not out of focus by default, it's focused at a farther distance.
I can't explain it properly but it's necessary.
Try VR and you'll understand, words can't do it justice.
The best way I can think to explain it is that it's as close to true 3D as you can get with screens, if something is 'far' you'll see it as well as you would see something at that distance in real life, same for 'close.'
zenith sonnet
PBO is the weirdest thing
Just turned it on again for a run, +200MHz, 1200W PPT, 540A TDC, 600A EDC
Basically unlimited power
Single core performance dropped slightly, from 508 to 504 points
With lower boost clocks, lower power draw, lower voltage. 15W on one core, instead of 18W
So, power draw went down, while score stayed almost the same?
Similar story with all-core loads:
Score went up slightly, 4775 to 4883
Power draw changed from 86/88W to 82/1200W, so down a bit?
Shit hits the fan in P95, though
15W per core instead of 8W, 132W for the CPU, 3975MHz sustained instead of 3650
Temps of 86Β°C
ashen spindle
im short sighted and I dont need glasses for VR
at first its a weird moment bc I knew I didn't wear glasses but something that looked like it's in the distance was still sharp to me
(bc it's actually still close)
but that went away really fast
and thank god, if I would need glasses for beat saber I'd hate my life lmao
zenith sonnet
HP is making VR headsets now, too
ashen spindle
?? does that include short sighted people?
or do you mean just generally bad vision
ah
to be fair im also not super super short sighted
zenith sonnet
Wouldn't VR be amazing for training eyes, though?
zenith sonnet
Afaik, for example Lazy Eyes can be trained away to some extend
Also, some forms of far-/near-sightedness can be reduced though training
Should be about as effective
But adults tend to learn more slowly
My issue is astigmatism
Actual physical deformation of the eyeball/lens
Nothing to train there π¦
ashen spindle
tobii eye tracking is fairly accurate, but there isn't much that makes use of it yet
bc its expensive
I guess on tuesday I could ask the guy whos working on some other Health VR research project if he knows anything about using vr to train/heal eyes etc.
I'm not sold yet that they are releasing the next gen vr thing with the ps5 right away
sure but for making bundles etc. it makes more sense to first release just the normal console
so people pay full price instead of taking a bundle on release etc.
an optional bundle ofc
and idk if psvr2 wil double in cost
wheat plume
IDK what he's on but I want it
https://youtu.be/8bGiiLW_ss4
empty wren
that includes lazy eyed people
@prisma crag There is a VR application that supposedly helps undo lazy eyes. It is called Vivid Vision.
thick elk
I should use vim more, I only use it as a replacement for nano now
fair gull
but vim is a meme
thick elk
only exiting is a meme using it is not really.
fair gull
its too complex for text editing and lacks features for coding with a normal ide
literally a bicycle with a jetengine
like it goes faster than a normal bike but instead of enjoying the comfort of going as fast with a normal car and nice seats etc. u rather sit on the bike with a jetengine and enjoy the blast of frontwind and the near death experience
thats my opinion of it
thick elk
I personally don't tend to use a lot of modern IDE features anyway and overall it does seem like it's keybindings can be used more efficiently.
I also don't need to use vim itself per se just its imput mode
fair gull
the input is smth i dont really mind thats personal preference
but usually people use vim cause "its so much better than everything else"
which tbh its not
thick elk
To be fair most my experience with ide's has been on atom which feels kind of slow, so I moved back to kate which mostly serves me well enough
command line integration works great which is a nice plus.
fair gull
neither kate nor atom are IDEs
just text editors
while atom does have project view and stuff it lacks everything else
thick elk
I did use kdevelop for a bit but really didn't use the ide stuff
thick elk
I never touched that one.
fair gull
vscode can be a mixed bag
i know of vim users that liked it after installing the vim extension
but i know others who dont like it cause its electron based and jada jada jada
for me it works great
i can install addons for stuff i want
can customize everything
and just not use the debugging etc
thick elk
I never liked any Microsoft made stuff so I never tried it
fair gull
cant really give ms shit atm cause they are taking a path i really like
which is opensourcing tons of what they do
like vscode, .net Core (.net 5)
asp.net core
and what not
rn the only company thats truly pushing crossplatform into a new era imo
especially with .net 5
crimson wigeon
Use Vim inside Code
fair gull
@ashen spindle already smells the unity update 5 years after .net 5 releases
poor unity developer
ashen spindle
thick elk
I can't argue against microsoft open sourcing stuff, they are however still a big tech giant that holds a lot of power.
It also wouldn't surpise me if Microsoft is slowly moving towards the linux kernel as a replacement for NT.
It makes sense from a business point of view. Saving a lot of cost on maintaining an technically inferior kernel.
Also they mostly seem to open source to protect, .net would lose terrrain if you can't use it cross platform. So they kind of have to now that the desktop isn't everything anymore. I don't see them opening DirectX up much anytime soon or more actively adopting vulkan.
fair gull
desktop is def still everything in the business side of the world
and thats what microsoft focuses on
business licenses and azure
and idk if id call it inferior kernel wise
imo u cant really compare them
i mean for one the linux kernel is a monolith
and windows kinda is not
like its a hybrid
it tries to combine the best of both worls
its more like comparing apples to oranges
both are a fruit
thick elk
regardless it would save a lot of costs long term if they no longer have to maintain a separate kernel.
Talking long term here having their own custom things run upon a linux kernel would help. Also being the only major non Unix like operating system around has it's drawbacks.
fair gull
they wont be able to switch tho
one of the things that windows is known for is the backwards compatibility
thick elk
They moved away from dos to NT once before so I can't see why they can't make another break sometime in the future.
Be it noway soon.
fair gull
this would take another 20 years then
thick elk
They could also include a sandboxed NT virtualized compatibility mode.
fair gull
they wouldnt
cause that would mean anyone could use it even on normal linux
which it would be by then
id say it would move more towards using wsl heavier and more often until they would not be able to reasonably support old win apps and then just not use nt anymore all together
which is what they did with all windows version so far
thick elk
that would make sense yea.
wheat plume
fuck HP laptops btw
crimson wigeon
fuck printers
wheat plume
^^^
ashen spindle
reinstall an all to get it to print now its not printing color
vast moss
fuck HP laptops btw
have hp laptop, can confirm
ashen spindle
?????? how
plush summit
guess he thought you had to slide it into the socket
instead of lift the rettention arm
vast moss
on what have I just laid eyes
ashen spindle
now like, how do you possibly think thats how it works
plush summit
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
warped dove
if your CPU seems to not fit then take hammer and smash motherboard
reef patrol
My eyes hurt.
I've done this once - Once. And that was by accident while trying to swap CPU in my loop while it was put together.
reef patrol
Naw. But it will cost a new socket π
vast moss
and perhaps a new CPU to boot
warped dove
CPU is probably all scatched
warped dove
gold contacts are osfter than whatever silver metal pins are made of
wheat plume
;-;
vast moss
;-;
wheat plume
y it do dis?
ashen spindle
idk you must've forgotten something or misconfigured something
wheat plume
on github or intelliJ?
ashen spindle
yes
fair gull
yes
wheat plume
;-;
wheat plume
yup
wheat plume
well yeah, I added new stuff
pale sigil
which means you cant push
because you never pushed the first time
you needed to do the initial push
fair gull
wha
pale sigil
I suggest making a new repo
wheat plume
how do I tell what repo to push in intelliJ?
fair gull
initial push is also just a push
id recommend using a cmd and navigating into the folder
do git push manually
usually gives u a better error
or use gitkraken
if u want a nice visual tool
fair gull
vscode exists for linux
but vscode is shit for git
always use git directly or smth like gitkraken
pale sigil
vscode isnlt?
sick creek
who uses vscode to do commits lmao
pale sigil
me?
sick creek
why
pale sigil
Why not?
crimson wigeon
If it doesn't work just force push it'll be fiiiine
pale sigil
on vscode
fair gull
pale sigil
i just use the console
sick creek
your email address is set in your gitconfig
wheat plume
then how do I remove it?
pale sigil
C:\Users<User> .gifconfig
sick creek
@crimson wigeon thats not what i was implying lol. solo project owners should, in theory, never be having merge conflicts
sick creek
idk how on windows, but on linux/mac you edit ~/.git/config or the projectdir/.git/config
fair gull
who edits git config
pale sigil
its what i just posted
fair gull
git config --global user.email "email@example.com"
crimson wigeon
or use git config
sick creek
you can do that too
wheat plume
idk how on windows, but on linux/mac you edit ~/.git/config or the projectdir/.git/config
@sick creek so I make it empty?
fair gull
then just git commit --amend --author ="Author Name 'email@address.com"
sick creek
i find it easier to edit the files directly rather than remember cmd arguments
fair gull
just dont use the source control of vscode ever
sick creek
i pay for my IDE and i dont use its git integration because they all suck
wheat plume
I opened the file, it contains a user block with my email and username
pale sigil
Oh
wheat plume
~/.gitconfig
sick creek
atom is fine
crimson wigeon
I tried Atom once
fair gull
no
sick creek
sublime is fine
pale sigil
atom is ppoop
fair gull
no
crimson wigeon
I uninstalled it before it even loaded up
fair gull
they both suck
pale sigil
though it handles sftp better tho
pale sigil
NO
fair gull
@pale sigil i use sftp in vscode fine
sick creek
yβall worry too much about your editor theme and not enough about your actual code
pale sigil
theme? nah, its just way better at handling everything.
sick creek
if you need the editor to do things for you, you just lack those skills
an editor isnt bad because it doesnt hold your hand as strongly
wheat plume
it no work still
pale sigil
huh
sick creek
read the github page on the issue
pale sigil
im on about the fact i can do everything within the editor
vs like atom i have to download plugins etc
like nodejs has been a HUGE help
being able to deploy etc
pale sigil
which one are you using
sick creek
lol using sftp in 2020
fair gull
use ftp and transfer files manually everytime u update it
or use git to first push changes
sick creek
set up github actions and git on your server
pale sigil
cba
pale sigil
like i dont wnna run all sorts on my server just because i make the odd change
sick creek
sftp is unreliable at best, b/c if your connection or the server drops out at all, you may have a bad file. cant have that problem with just doing git pull on the server
and if you did, git reset βhard HEAD and its all fixed
fair gull
are we working with hypotheticals now
sick creek
its not hypothetical
pale sigil
well thats why you use a program that makes sure that doesn't happen
sick creek
actual situation that has happened to me
fair gull
in all these years coding i NEVER had a bad file from sftp
pale sigil
its happened to me once
fair gull
not even once
sick creek
well iβve been doing dev for 15+ years now, and iβve seen a lot of crazy/stupid shit
ftp/sftp is a last resort for me now
i almost never use it
pale sigil
just because of bad experience to you does not make a protocol obsolete lol
sick creek
if i need to push files to a server i use SCP
fair gull
guess ill just transfer all my files through git now
the terabytes of data
just so i dont get 1 bad file
wheat plume
I found a solution that worked :D
sick creek
terabytes of data in a git repo alol
ashen spindle
you removed yourself form your own block list?
wheat plume
no...I had no one in block list
I found this solution
sick creek
itβs just something github changed so you dont accidentally expose your personal email address in a public repo
fair gull
github will thank me that i use their service for file transfers
wheat plume
itβs just something github changed so you dont accidentally expose your personal email address in a public repo
@sick creek I made the email my github username@users..... etc
sick creek
ya thats a fix
wheat plume
definetly worked
thick elk
Nothing wrong with sftp / sshfs, just depends on what you want to do.
Sometimes setting up a git codebase or ansible configuration is really not worth it. Though rsync is also good option at times.
wheat plume
github will thank me that i use their service for file transfers
@fair gull how? make a temp repo and pull it down on another device and delete the repo?
sick creek
Lol itβs a joke. But heβs just trying to take what iβm saying and twist it
My point was that for code projects, like websites or applications that need to run on a server... if you can avoid using a basic file transfer protocol you are better off in the long run
If you have like 5 files, then whatever
But if youβre using any modern framework and using js with some kind of build system... jesus christ itβs so much slower to use ftp/sftp
And error prone
You run git pull && npm install after each update (and any other build related stuff ofc) and itβs all good
torpid monolith
Anyone know if you can take a mouse and keyboard on the plane with you?
fair gull
depends
torpid monolith
What does it need to not be a bomb?
pale sigil
if it has a battery
I think you need to prove its fully charged?
There doesn't seem to be any rules on mice
or keyboards
i think wireless mice however
when on the plane at least
might get you moaned at
cos yanno they think you're gonna destroy the plane with that sweet bluetooth signal
torpid monolith
So a razer viper ultimate turned off
thick elk
Wireless is just one of the many battery powered devices that transmit in the 2.4ghz range
mice are not a problem
thick elk
My standard luggage in terms of electronics is: laptop, 2x power bank, headphones, nintendo switch, tablet, controller, toothbrush, shaver, and of course the cables and chargers needed to power it all.
also a wired mouse
torpid monolith
Dope, I brought a Nintendo switch before and I didn't get any flack for that.
A nice 1 hour session, didn't even feel like anything.
thick elk
the only thing is at security I hope I get a modern scanner as otherwise I need to unpack the whole bag and repack it again after.
wheat plume
Best roast of endlessOS I have ever heard :')
thick elk
of course also a phone. Basically half my bag is electronics
sick creek
Yep. Never had an issue except the one time i brought an SFF PC with me (cause i was going to dreamhack) and boston TSA treated it like it was a bomb
To be fair it looked INSANE on the xray
Psu was above the cpu cooler, cold cathodes, etc
pale sigil
thats lame
you have to manually enable windows sandbox
its pretty responsive
You say this ms
misty pier
how what
young flicker
Laptop 2070. J/k I seriously don't know how you'd fit a graphics card in that.
Nano SKU?
Oh, neat. That'll do it.
empty wren
@wheat plume All thanks to the riots and those who are unrelated to the message joining to cause havoc
empty wren
fair gull
been out 3 or 4 days now
old marlin
Got a desktop 9700k and 2080 in under 7L
Ez
I got told that my system doesn't count as SFF
But ai don't see the problem
Just because it has a screen, battery, keyboard and trackpad attached
Makes it even more impressive tbh 
old marlin
I can though
Don't have an upgrade path
But it is possible
And it performs basically like a normal desktop part as well
Unless dell decides to fiddle with the vbios again
thick elk
they make some decent ones but also some fairly crappy ones.
wheat plume
o
then what brand you suggest below 240 euro? has to be at least 32"
toshiba are good right?
the link has smart tv in it but its not a smart TV....wtf
wheat plume
ikr, rookie numbers
but our tv has the most chonky ass bezels
like the bezels are like 8 inches
thick elk
I wouldn't exactly know, just look up the model and panel. Se if you can find anything about it. Alternatively actually look at the thing in a shop.
Still this pricepoint is mostly going to be crappy panels.
wheat plume
it makes the tv much larger than it needs to be
fair gull
chonky reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YDoowoYzOI
wheat plume
Look, the TV we have is 1768*732
ANYTHING is better as long as its 1080P
and when you look close you can see so much grain in the photo
and noise
I plugin my laptop into HDMI on it and all the edges are off screen so I can barely see the panels
its magically bad
its a 5oHz panel oh wow
thick elk
usually those can also do 60
thick elk
Honestly at this price point I would just walk into a store and see what looks decent, then order it online as cheaply as possible.
wheat plume
true
thick elk
As for brands at lower price points LG generally seems to do quite well.
thick elk
Uh no, looking at the site you linked
wheat plume
they have all these useless features like disney+ certified and control it with airplay and google assistant
and they still make their panel 720P
thick elk
wheat plume
o 230
thick elk
the panels on the cheapest ones could be nasty though. Low contrast TN panels.
If I would have to get one purely on an educated guess this would be the cheapest decent option: https://www.currys.ie/ieen/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-32lm6300pla-32-smart-full-hd-hdr-led-tv-10191559-pdt.html
wheat plume
oo
we also need to get a new sky box cause our one is 480P output cause its like 12 years old
and connects via scart cable
that massive thing with like 40 pins
thick elk
I am well aware what a scart cable is.
thick elk
Kind of surprising they never replaced the setup box though
wheat plume
hmm
pale sigil
Itβs poop
wheat plume
it costs 30 a month for us currently, because mom wants the movie channels
wheat plume
that would be useless for mom when Im not at home cause we have only my hotspot to give wifi in the house
fair gull
lol
pale sigil
My mum pays for sky even though all she watches is Netflix
wheat plume
wow
fair gull
the only sky offers in germany is high quality fuΓball
wheat plume
they removed....window specific overides on plasma....
wtf
wait, im a moron
I like titlebarless windows
they look better
especially with the menu bar also moved out of the window
ashen spindle
Just noticed this week shouldβve been computex but obv not happening, rip GPU news
sacred shoal
that venn diagram means literally nothing to me
ashen spindle
intels own SSE instructions and what uArch they are used in
halcyon moss
Lana: a lot of tv's do a thing called overscan, usually it can be disabled. Sometimes there is a special computer profile
wheat plume
it wont let me change aspect ratio when im in any HDMI source
crimson wigeon
Yeah all the (very few tho) TVs I've had let me turn off that disgusting overscan why is it even a thing
vast moss
Wow, he really let it grow
NGL it looked good when it was pretty short, but I will say it really ought to be at least trimmed now
zenith sonnet
He'll get there in a few years time
torpid monolith
Linus just did some fucking character development
Mf gree a bread after talking about retirement
plush summit
he looks like obi one
young flicker
Hah, he kind of does.
old marlin
fml
have to upgrade an old system with a CPU board to one with a 775 socket
but just get no image
I love legacy devices 
ashen spindle
int num = 0; find the error
fair gull
might we first get a hint of which language that is supposed to be
ashen spindle
c++
fair gull
then theres no error as far as i can tell
that should compile fine with modern c++
aka c++17
timid chasm
should work with old c++
ashen spindle
yes but on runtime an error occures
fair gull
sec
ashen spindle
want to know the details in the error message?
timid chasm
that's the only thing in it?
ashen spindle
"occured" is all it says
timid chasm
If that was the only code I'd be curious but it has to be something else
fair gull
ya
ashen spindle
its the first line in the method
ashen spindle
same shit different name
fair gull
yesnt
fair gull
usually methods/subs refers to smth without a retun value
and functions to smth with return value
at least thats what i got told
and it seems like sound logic
timid chasm
my understanding was that it's basically language dependent
ashen spindle
im c# developer so idc what c++ wants to call it tbh
already getting aneurisms from stringhandling and int/byte conversion anyway
ashen spindle
well for now its not running into the error anymore when I send the packet so maybe its gone?
fair gull
are u writing a server for smth?
ashen spindle
yeah udp and tcp server rn
ashen spindle
C is something nobody in the office can
fair gull
use the c# then
i can tell u from having written a server/client in all 3
c and c# make the most sense
ashen spindle
needs to be on linux and I nee to get into c++ networking for another project
fair gull
.net core 3.1/.net 5
literally runs super nice on any platform
i tried few linux distros win and mac
ashen spindle
yeah but a) other dev on it prefers c++ for it and I'd learn something I cant use for the next big thing
fair gull
its ur decision
but i can tell u right now c++ is way more fucked up than c and c# combined plus imo c and c# are both lightyears better than c++
but in the end you decide
ashen spindle
no it's not mine, im the junior dev haha
ashen spindle
and the other big project after is already a big established thing so I need to get into c++ for it
fair gull
it takes some time to get used to the whole ownership thing but otherwise super nice
ashen spindle
I mean I signed up for this project basically because I wanted to learn more c++
ashen spindle
it's just weird stuff sometimes, this might've been something caused by visual studio debug code as it doesnt happen anymore after rebuilding a bit more
timid chasm
c++ is a bitch for a first language but if a person can get through it it makes life much easier in some other areas
fair gull
personally prefer oop in c
by just using ugly code and attaching function ptr to structs
like some caveman
hoary dock
and on sites where I know I dont get bombed with popups and ads I disable the adblock
I would disable it on yt but I really dont like non-skippable 5min ads
thick elk
I accept that sites will miss out on revenu but I very well like to deside what I want to see.
There are very few sites that use adds in an acceptable manner.
Often full page, animated, tracking.
hoary dock
the site where I watch most of my animes has three banners on the player page
nothing more
thick elk
you can disable the add blocker but still have some tracker protection turned on.
pale sigil
most anime sites have hentai ads and popups
no thanks
looking at you kissanime and 9anime
thick elk
I honestly never turn it off anymore, very few sites give me a good cause to do so.
wheat plume
^
pale sigil
cba downloading it all
i prefer to stream
i usd my IPad a lot to watch anime
and well... downloading on an IPad etc is just aids even with Jailbreak
And in general its only 32gb so having files is poop
https://twist.moe/ blocks adblocks and or does not work
What i cant stand about anime is there is no one platform for all anime
Otherwise id pay.
Crunchyroll is garbage for dubbed and new stuff thats not bought, funimation is american and needs a vpn to use at first but also very limited to their own content.
timid chasm
vrv
a vrv sub has all that shit together
best I'm aware of
looks like funimation left vrv 2 years ago since sony picked them up
If I watch anime I don't watch dubs though
pale sigil
depends on the anime
vrv aint avail in the uk
and i cba dealing with vpn blocking etc
fair gull
vrv?
fair gull
i watch no sub jap dub
pale sigil
For me it depends on the anime
and if the dub sounds ok or not
i dont watch anime properly
Like i dont focus on it 100%
So reading sub and doing other stuff is annoying
If i do love a dubbed anime then i usually dont mind focusing on it in dub
fair gull
i dont watch dubbed animes
thick elk
I prefer this version:
reef patrol
ashen spindle
35C to high 40s on a 3950x with an nh d 15 on idle seems fine right?
ashen spindle
under 65 for idle? that seems a bit generous
sick creek
i'm currently running prime95 small fft on my old i5-2500k
been running for 3 hours or so 4.5ghz @ 1.3vc
tops out at 62c
furmark is just gonna raise the gpu temp
which i'm not testing
cpu cooler is a front mounted 280mm aio (corsair h115i)
so i dont think it'd affect temps much anyway
it's an old pc gtfoh
"muh air cooling" "muh custom loop"
it's a small ass case and i dont have time
lol
fuck off 
i remember when that company made the refrigerator case
-30c or something
reef patrol
Good old chiller coolers.
reef patrol
Yeah.... They don't have any left that works.
Their last chiller is here in Aalborg, used as a funny showpiece.
sick creek
yeah i mean the fucking case was like $1000+
reef patrol
It's essentially a fridge.
reef patrol
It's a real chonk. I saw it a while back.
Asetek HQ is pretty cool. It's nice to have a big firm locally π
young flicker
It looks very 2002.