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coral loom
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Haha I've never touched oracle db

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Hearing about them was enough

wheat plume
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Lucky......

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The installer is so bad
And there is no uninstaller

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You manually delete registry entities
And folders
And bootup processes

coral loom
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oh damn

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rm -rf *

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😄

wheat plume
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I wish xddd

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Hopefully I don't need to deal with that shit anymore

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And to make it worse
You need to create an oracle account to download the freaking thing

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So I just keep the archive on USB for when I need it cause freak that

coral loom
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yep

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they did the same shit with downloading Java

wheat plume
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I only use openjdk

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It's super easy to install and manage on Manjaro / Arch

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You have the archlinux-java command to help you do various things like set your default Java version or set variables and to see what you have installed

coral loom
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yea

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ive got manjaro as my entertainment distro

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like it so far

wheat plume
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What desktop you choose?

coral loom
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kde plasma always

wheat plume
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Ayyyy

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Nice

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I always switch from plasma and gnome every few months

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I wish I could make a desktop that had features I liked from both in one desktop

empty wren
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@wheat plume this may be a dumb question but does the wootility have to run in the background after you run it

wheat plume
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@wheat plume this may be a dumb question but does the wootility have to run in the background after you run
@empty wren no no
The settings are all saved onto the keyboard itself so once you have it set up like you want you press "save to keyboard" and you good to go

empty wren
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okay but functions like dks do they need it running in the background, i only asks these because I have never used the wootility

crimson wigeon
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no

wheat plume
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Nope

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Everything is in the board

empty wren
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okay so it was as i assumed but still bad to assume

wheat plume
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You can have 4 active profiles to switch between on the fly

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To switch between more than that you need to open wootility

empty wren
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ah i see

wheat plume
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Those can do a mix of dks or analog it doesn't matter

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Or just a different lighting profile

empty wren
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that is just amazing last year i had corsair keybaord and if i closed iCue the lights stopped exactly where they were

wheat plume
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Ooooooooofff

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That's so shit

empty wren
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yeah could not even change the brightness 😂

wheat plume
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Omo

crimson wigeon
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all those manufacturer proprietary softwares are garbage

wheat plume
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I got lucky with my peripherals

Both my mouse and keyboard save their settings onboard

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Since I change OS a lot this is a great time saver

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And all my mouse button bindings and sensitivity stay the same across OS

empty wren
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that just makes sense, that it should just work

wheat plume
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My speakers don't keep the EQ settings but I can't change that anyway
Even when I had windows the suggested failed to detect them :')

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The software*

shadow minnow
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I also have mouse with onboard memory (it is wireless mouse) but there is one problem. I want to use screen sampler RGB and that is logically possible just with the software, but the software is buggy and half the times does not open

wheat plume
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Idk what that means

empty wren
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i got a keyboard months back it had bad software too for macros and extras and now they deleted their site 😂

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they were probably ashamed

coral loom
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does anyone know of long sturdy one arm Monitor mounts?

zenith sonnet
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How many are they expecting to sell? Like 5? Who'd buy an intel system these days?

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Lol

zenith sonnet
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I'm hoping to see some waterblocks specifically designed for Zen 3 later this year

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Since with the chiplet design, the heat is distributed differently, and some channels on standard blocks are not covering a heat source

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And some don't cover all heat sources completely

ashen spindle
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CPU socket compatibility:

  • AMD AM4
zenith sonnet
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EK-Quantum Velocity Honor is a Stars & Stripes Limited Edition a high-performance CPU water block for modern Intel® processors.

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So, they slapped a AMD mounting bracket on an intel block and forgot to even change the text in the description?

ashen spindle
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Th e enclosed mounting kit includes all the necessary mounting screws, mounting springs, an AMD AM4 backplate

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So seems to be for both

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And weren’t there tests that showed as long as the area is covered, the coolers work as good as they can?

zenith sonnet
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Anyway, that's what I meant.
This block is mediocre to decent on intel CPUs
But it's nigh impossible to find a decent Zen 2 waterblock test

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Anyway, this illustrates the issue pretty well

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And since the chiplet is so far off to the side, not all waterblocks cover it entirely

ashen spindle
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basically you just need a block that is big enough to cover a large square

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custom waterblocks for chiplets would be extremely expensive and not very usefull, need to keep manufacturing differences in mind, different chiplet sizes and positions, cpu's placed with 90° rotation etc.

fickle ore
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hopefully the ccx is closer to middle on zen 3

fair gull
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why even keep all the heat in with the heat sink

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just take it off

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and no cooler

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easy

ashen spindle
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yea so, basically just need to make sure it's a bigger coldplate than that

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I doubt optimizing it, assuming you get tolerances perfectly done, enforce orientation like in the second one so you can block some area in the middle, is doing measurable benefits

zenith sonnet
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You can bruteforce it with enough pressure/flow

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Or work with different flow rates in different parts of the coldplate

ashen spindle
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I think it might help bad pumps, but at that point why optimize that and not just make it a good product so that goes away on every chip

zenith sonnet
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Nice
AMD re-releases the VII

ashen spindle
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huh

zenith sonnet
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As the Redeon Pro VII

ashen spindle
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oh

zenith sonnet
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With PCIe 4.0, slightly lower clock and unlocked FP64

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And Infinity Fabric link

ashen spindle
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I wouldnt count that as re-release, nobody calls a quadro taht either :p

zenith sonnet
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Yesn't
It's another card that makes use of MI50 chips that failed binning, I guess

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But makes better use of the cards capabilities

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It is the same silicon, though

ashen spindle
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for triple the price rooKek

zenith sonnet
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For what it does, and the kind of systems it goes into, it's a competitive price

ashen spindle
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ehh idk, lacks cuda, guess fp64 and memory speed does well, but no idea what area would like those two things

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maybe the IF will be nice to get some sort of dev-builds ready for the cpu/gpu interconnect with CDNA2

zenith sonnet
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It seems to sort have a unique position in being able to do pretty much anything well

zenith sonnet
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That's even funnier
Apparently, AMD only created/released that card because people asked for it
Which explains why it's so late to the market

ashen spindle
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well yeah, that's the case for basically anything on the semiconductor market

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big buyers are the ones who work with vendors when they make new uarchs

zenith sonnet
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Not really
Usually companies develop a better performing product and market it as an upgrade

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Here, the market asked for the product

ashen spindle
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cooper lake on intel side for example was made solely because facebook wanted it

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rdna2 was made with what xbox/ps5 wanted as a big focus

zenith sonnet
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That's semi-custom, that's a little different

ashen spindle
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I'd say cooper lake and radeon pro vii are extremely similar

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they had a product and some customer wanted it with just a tiny change

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but it can be easily used by other smaller customers so it's not kept exclusive

zenith sonnet
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They also market it against the 9000$ GV100 🤔

ashen spindle
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bit weird, those excel in fp16 and lower precision, also double the hbm2 memory

zenith sonnet
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Apparently Nvidia doesn't have a cheaper offering that can compete in FP64
And you can get two Pro VIIs and still save enough money to buy a 3990X

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Including board

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But eh, I dunno what workloads it's not competitive in

ashen spindle
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yeah idk what high end workload needs such high precisions stuff

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I only know AI mostly likes lower precision bc its enough +faster

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research perhaps? but those are more often done with teslas and not pci cards

zenith sonnet
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When I asked AMD about this odd timing, the response from the company was that the Radeon Pro VII launch is in response to professional customers using the consumer Radeon VII in workstations. Apparently the card was popular enough there to warrant AMD releasing a formal Pro version of the card, with all the bells and whistles like IFLink and fast FP64 turned on. While it’s not clear if this is from a broad range of requests or being driven by a small number of OEMs, I get the distinct impression that a Radeon Pro VII wasn’t originally in AMD’s product plans; in other words, it’s a launch being driven by customer demand.

ashen spindle
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so, basically a cooper lake situation

zenith sonnet
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I wonder

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With the split between RDNA2 and CDNA

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We might not see another card like this

zenith sonnet
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The new SKUs make sense seeing this

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3600 running 4.5 allcore at 1.25V

zenith sonnet
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My best run was 4750 with PBO enabled

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That's almost 20% less per thread performance

empty wren
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@pale sigil minimalism can look nice

pale sigil
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Not a fan tbh

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Hate round icons 🤣

reef patrol
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Boy...

pale sigil
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That honestly triggers me xD

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How it cuts off

zenith sonnet
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@ashen spindle @reef patrol
Weird thing I read a lot lately, is that people are now recommending to remove/reduce RAM overclock to fix the black screen issues with AMD cards
And a lot of people seem to report success 🤔

reef patrol
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shrug

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No AMD here esse.

ashen spindle
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ram or vram?

zenith sonnet
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RAM

ashen spindle
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huh

zenith sonnet
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Often times, XMP seems to be at fault

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Weird how that happens

ashen spindle
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xmp is nothing more than overclocking that was tested to work with the kit, so yeah, its out of spec technically

zenith sonnet
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But something seems to be extremely sensitive to unstable memory OC

reef patrol
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XMP always causes issues.

ashen spindle
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first time I hear of gpu issues from ram oc

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then again most ram oc issues are not debugged further to see if another gpu works fine

zenith sonnet
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That also explains why people have the same issues again when switching cards

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sometimes*

ashen spindle
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amd cpu needs ram oc, amd gpu hates ram oc, oh the irony rooKek

zenith sonnet
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It's more about making sure your OC is stable :p

ashen spindle
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if it works with other cards I'd assume the memory oc itself is stable :p

zenith sonnet
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We'll see, we'll see

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Talk about it has mostly died down, gonna be interesting if it flames up again when RDNA2 launches

ashen spindle
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that not so much, but zen3 launch probably more

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as it could be that 3600 is no longer the optimal targetspeed

dapper ridge
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das my phone screen

empty wren
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hmm, have you tried kwgt or klwp

dapper ridge
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that is klwp

empty wren
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oh it is, cool

dapper ridge
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I prefer my home screen to just show me date and time

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I really just use it for phone anyways

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so I have my bixby button rebound to be phone

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so its just a phone really

empty wren
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alright, would be a little cooler if the clock would be gone on the homescreen and that kwlp would transition into the clock

dapper ridge
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you wanted minimalist

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this is it

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it is literally a clock

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and the date

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no apps nothin

empty wren
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😄

dapper ridge
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my work phone has the fancy kwlp stuff

empty wren
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and not just a clock right?

dapper ridge
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exactly

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but its a bit broken

empty wren
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hmm?

dapper ridge
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newest klwp updates have broken it

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the design is almost 4 years old

empty wren
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ahh, hate when that happens like openweather api was removed recenty

dapper ridge
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and Im getting rid of my work phone soon anyways so I have not updated or fixed it

empty wren
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well the clock is interesting i have yet to see anyone up until now of course just have that

dapper ridge
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was gonna do more, but

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honestly I just got used to it

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and liked it being just that

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and it looks dashing on the oled display so

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why change

empty wren
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you are right on that matter

young flicker
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I thought 3800Mhz with 1900Mhz Infinity Fabric was optimal?

ashen spindle
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not much of a difference and 1900 is only stable on a low ammount of chips, but ye

young flicker
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Ah.

warped dove
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Does anyone have the Radeon tray icon? Since the big update a few months ago, radeon software has been worse than ever...

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but I just want to know if anyone else has the tray icon

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mine's gone

zenith sonnet
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It's not super rare
I've got one that does 1900
Some gug who tested 5 chips got two

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Got the tray icon

warped dove
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0_o fug. there used to be a setting but it's gone

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and the fucking jumbled the interface up. i'll look for a registry key

zenith sonnet
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There should be a toggle in Settings

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And one in the Radeon Software

warped dove
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it gone bro

empty wren
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anyone else tired of the intrusive "accept cookies" prompt

misty pier
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eh im used to it

empty wren
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some of the sites i visit now have them and it is so damn annoying, at least we have an inspect tool

old marlin
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Well other option would be that you accept by default

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I usually just block them with ublock origin on websites I visit often

zenith sonnet
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Dis scary

zenith sonnet
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There's also for a while been software that can easily mimic your dad chatting with you on whatsapp or whatever messenger
Wonder what's next

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As proven again every time, it'll become racist after meeting /pol/

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Wonder how much code is in those AIs nowadays just to prevent them from developing politically incorrect personalities instead of allowing them to develop freely

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Imagine the outcry if an American AI was favourable to China

old marlin
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wtf

fallow bison
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Thats so stupid

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what the hell

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i mean it could be cool with services like netflix

ashen spindle
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yeah not really surprising, rgb/nloat software for gpu's is some of the most risky stuff bc basically every AiB makes it really bad

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going through gpu paths that it doesnt need to go through etc.

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not sure if it was msi or asus where the rgb control went through vbios on some gpus

wheat plume
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20 minutes to compile this terminal in a 12 core threadripper

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No thanks

zenith sonnet
old marlin
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wtf

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official PCMR case

zenith sonnet
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Yeah, looks pretty sleek

old marlin
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uhhhh

zenith sonnet
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2000 unit only, though

old marlin
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don't like it

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should be easy to get tbh

torpid monolith
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It's an ight case

old marlin
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NZXT had some more limited case drops

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with better designs

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that took long to sell

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it won't

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doesn't look that special

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like

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the difference to the regular one is that chrome finish piece

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and it costs 40 euros more

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oh and the feet are some chrome as well

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likely mismatched

fickle ore
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just wait for the poggers chassis, releasing in june

zenith sonnet
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Happy with my XL

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Would buy again

fickle ore
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Lian li Lancool II Mesh - june release

zenith sonnet
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Especially with the Quantum D5 distro plate for the O11 XL

fickle ore
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prob as good or better than meshify and looks nicer

zenith sonnet
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To bad I built half a year ago 😦

fickle ore
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why?

zenith sonnet
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Because of the disto plate, and me still waiting on damn Noctua

fickle ore
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Only thing I wish the Lan cool II mesh would have alu frame

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;_;

old marlin
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lancool II is op

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mesh will just make it better

fickle ore
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ya

old marlin
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alu frame would make it expensive af

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that is the reason why the O11 d is so cheap

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because it doesn't use one

fickle ore
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will buy it anyway

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coming from HAF 932

old marlin
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rip availability

fickle ore
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doesnt alot of pc stores sell lian li

old marlin
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not really

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caseking has them

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which makes them available for me

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dunno where yo uwould get them otherwise in europe

fickle ore
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wut its ugly as sin

old marlin
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I like it

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even the non mesh version

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90 euro case

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good build quality

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decent thermals even for the non-mesh version

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rgb

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tempered glass

fickle ore
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omg that normal version is ugly

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XD

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btw they removed RGB from the mesh version pronin

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so u wont like it

old marlin
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rip

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well

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I don't care much for rgb

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but you get adressable rgb in a 90 euro case

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idk where their margins are tbh

fickle ore
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ya

old marlin
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prolly can afford it due to owning the factory

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and getting good deals on steel

fickle ore
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higher quality than some random case prob?

old marlin
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yea

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actually pretty good quality

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even in comparison to 90 euro cases

fickle ore
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ye thats my memory from olschool Lian LI alu cases

old marlin
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well

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lianli was always on the expensive side

fickle ore
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Hate my HAF 932 dont know why everyone keeps praising it

old marlin
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that case is just damn good though

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even thermals are decent

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inwin beer box

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nice

fickle ore
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ya and that front panel is blocking a lot of air so mesh will prob be top5 I'd say

old marlin
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one of these

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guess some inwin designer drank too much beer

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and thought "huh we could make a case out of the crates"

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are they chinese?

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or taiwanese?

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cause I know that the chinese got some damn good beer

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in some regions at least

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cause ex-german colonies

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and they kept german traditional brewing

fickle ore
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😮

old marlin
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huh

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lol

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become truck driver

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ez

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wait

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demand for truck drivers sunk

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wtf

fickle ore
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0,43€ per km

old marlin
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is your industry dieing?

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wtf

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what are you doing besides driving?

fickle ore
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who

old marlin
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what you described

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oh ok

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yeee

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should also be stable

fickle ore
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I know some people who drive peat

old marlin
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you don't have to work for weird subcontractors

fickle ore
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that's a dying breed nowadays

old marlin
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well

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hopefully not

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like my company

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if possible I'll stay with it forever

fickle ore
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hope u can

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I'm just lucky my field wasn't affected too much by corona

old marlin
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well mine is

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we just have to get over the hump

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can't be laid off or anything

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unless my company goes broke

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which seems unlikely atm

fickle ore
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Yeah sux.. Have had a hard time ordering some buffer & calibration solutions ;_;

old marlin
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post corona will be interesting

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since a lot of companies want to ge ttheir stuff done

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so a lot of companies will try to rush it

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means high quality work will get paid even more

fickle ore
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yeah that reminds me fucking bst

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gif astrum

old marlin
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oof

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well

fickle ore
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sorry to hear

old marlin
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can't get kicked out or employed half time or anything

fickle ore
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TIme to game then 😄

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Hope this shitty corona is over soon so I can actually go visit my parents etc

zenith sonnet
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Meanwhile, I still gotta do the same shit, just with a mask ._.

old marlin
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idk how unemployment works in your country

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like it would suck

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but not be the end of the world

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here at least

fickle ore
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SERIOUSLY HOW CAN A SIMPLE MOUSE BE DELAYE BY 2 YEARS?!

old marlin
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meanwhile m1k got delayed by a month total

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no wait

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was 2 months

fickle ore
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Locke, idk you belong in any work orgs, but here they pay like 80% of your pay for 6-12 months iirc.. After that it's unemployment

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anyways GL

old marlin
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lol

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well you don't know what mouse she will want

fickle ore
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just dont buy a gf!

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but I dont recommedn the model o pink

old marlin
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ye

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if you want a cute mouse import a pink kone pure ultra or a doraemon viper mini

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too bad both are asia only

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there is also teh asus impact II electro punk

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which will surely release

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at some point

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knowing asus it'll quietly appear in some weird af stores in half a year

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I mean

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MSRP of the regular model is about that

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70 euros

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fair price

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viper is about that now

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not every mouse gets designed externally

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and jsut gets the design rights bought

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some actually have a well desigend shell and interior

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fully done inhouse

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well

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also sell it

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etc

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trust me not possible

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there is a good reason why every gaming mice except two are made in china

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one of the two companies is dead

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and that was ages ago

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like over 10 years iirc

fickle ore
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bought this used hpefully it makes good coffee

old marlin
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ohhh

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I know that nozzle

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lemme think

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ktect kt9500+

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gl finding one

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unobtainium

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I am pretty damn close to getting one btw

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not even the M1K guys have one

vagrant marsh
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@fickle ore thats a coffee maker? More looks like a water filtration station. Damn.

fickle ore
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ye the m1k is not rly worth to me at 200$ without even WHEEL

old marlin
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even though they have been looking for one for qutie a while now

fickle ore
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@vagrant marsh its a coffee machine yeap

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espresso, latte, normal coffee

old marlin
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idk what the correct english term for those coffee machines is lol

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german word is "Kafffeevollautomat"

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korea

fickle ore
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yeah its coffee automat

old marlin
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ktec was a korean company

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there are also some japanese mice

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but mostly JDM

vagrant marsh
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Dutch is koffie apparaat

fickle ore
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freshly ground coffee ❤️

old marlin
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uhhh

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can't remember

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~2010-2014

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I'd guess

fickle ore
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Ninox astrum is made in england? Idk

vagrant marsh
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Isnt it officially called a coffee dripper?

old marlin
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nah

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astrum is made in china

fickle ore
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wasn't it painted in england or wut

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forgot

old marlin
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the ktec was 100% made in korea

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M1K is 100% made in germany

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iirc

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well

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one part

fickle ore
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yeah no wonder, 200$ and had to drop wheel to meet target price

vagrant marsh
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What about the roccat cyborg mouses?

fickle ore
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...

old marlin
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roccat cyborg mouse?

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@vagrant marsh wtf are you talkinng about?

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do you mean mad catz?

vagrant marsh
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Yes, sorry

old marlin
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oh ok

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uhhh

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other than collecting

vagrant marsh
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Thought it was roccat

old marlin
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not that great

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tbh

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well

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they are alive again

vagrant marsh
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I liked the cyborg mice. They were sturdy and adjustable

old marlin
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not really sturdy tbh

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everybody I knew that had one had theirs break pretty quickly

vagrant marsh
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Lol.

old marlin
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meanwhile logitech office meme works for 20 years straight

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with a better sensor

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tencent bought system shock 3

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riperoni

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well

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maybe arcade sticks

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unlikely in the western market though

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well atm prolly yea

vagrant marsh
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I wish there was more choice in home speakers. If you want the best quality at affordable price, the logitech z906 is pretty much your only option. There are more for less price, but they dont have the same umph as the logitech

old marlin
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for speakers you got so many options it is insane

vagrant marsh
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5.1 speakers, the logitech has the best bang for buck. You can go for something like trust, but the sound sounds cheaper.

old marlin
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you do know

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that there are like 3 decades of speakers

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that can be used with computers

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and are completely viable

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I mean

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you can get shittons of speakers

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for teh price of a loigitech 5.1 system

vagrant marsh
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Ive been using the z906 since its release in '11, after that i bought the sound blaster ae5, its a perfect combo

old marlin
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that can perform better

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inb4 you use spdif

vagrant marsh
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Hmm. I dunno. I used a few 5.1 systems up until then and they were always lacking.

old marlin
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I hope you don't use the optical out on your sound card

vagrant marsh
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I use the 3 cables for center/bass, rear and front

old marlin
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good ok

vagrant marsh
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Together with the sound blaster software you can also adjust per speaker the sound and distance. I got them perfectly balanced. With a 3D testing sound, it sounds exactly as loud from all angles.

#

First class

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Sounds classy

old marlin
#

I can guarantee you

#

you can get better stuff for the same price

#

that is like 20 years old

#

if not older

#

basically

#

or do the lazy approach

#

get 2 old cinema widerange drivers

#

and a good amp

zenith sonnet
ashen spindle
#

iirc they are also set to release their big chunk of metal passive cooler for cpus this year

old marlin
#

well

#

they demoed it

#

and said that they consider selling it

ashen spindle
#

yeah but I think yesterday or the day before I read about it coming this year

#

might check if I find that later

old marlin
#

oh ok

#

I think the NH-A14x25 is planned to release this year

wheat plume
#

This is one of the very little videos I disliked

#

He thinks valve releasing censored version of steam in China is a sell out

ashen spindle
#

is it not?

old marlin
#

I mean

#

other option is not selling there

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at all

wheat plume
#

Yes
And why not sell games in China

#

Xd one way to put it

#

They'll get a huge increase in usage for sure

ashen spindle
#

I'm not saying they shouldnt do it or whatever, but isn't changing/compromising something for money the definition of sellout?

#

selling out is not inherently bad or anything

wheat plume
#

No

zenith sonnet
#

Isn't it more like they make a second version of Steam for China only?

wheat plume
#

Sell out means you say you won't give into demand but then you do

zenith sonnet
#

That's not selling out

wheat plume
#

Yeh
It's a separate client

#

It's in alpha rn

ashen spindle
#

yeah and it's censored bc thats how everything works in china

wheat plume
#

It doesn't show usernames or profiles
And you may or may not have workshop content

#

Well yeh

#

Also you can't play games from 10pm to 6am for some reason

#

Just doesn't let you

zenith sonnet
#

I mean, Steam in Germany is also censored

torpid monolith
#

Just illegally sells games in China

old marlin
#

I mean

#

germany also has some censoring rules

torpid monolith
#

It's gonna get to that point one day

old marlin
#

on games an political stuff

torpid monolith
#

Might as well practice now

old marlin
#

we don't have those requirements

wheat plume
#

I think so far I used the disliked button on like 3 videos
Today is the 4th

#

He's so confused about this shit

pale sigil
#

i hate this so much

#

i cant install apps on the drive i want

#

same with games

#

without changing it manually for everything

empty wren
#

What the why never had that issue

pale sigil
#

🤷‍♂️

#

i never used to have it too

empty wren
#

Is this like the game download directory thing?

#

Because in that case it makes sense

old marlin
#

currently trying to figure out cronjobs

#

and they just don't do what I expect

crimson wigeon
#

Bruh you should be using systemd timers!!!! \s

old marlin
#

like I put in two commands

#

with a &&

#

first executes cleanly, is a killall

#

second should reopen the programm

#

does nothing

crimson wigeon
#

Did you try putting that in a proper script that cron runs?

old marlin
#

nope

#

could try that

frank finch
#

you can also try command 1; command 2 usually it just means that the killall command doesn't have an exit code of 0 =]

old marlin
#

yea tried it

#

doesn't work

#

am an absolute linux noob though

frank finch
#

tried as a single line in a shell as well?

old marlin
#

?

#

you mean my command

#

can't try it

#

sicne the programm runs ful lscreen

wheat plume
old marlin
#

can close it via ssh

#

and can open it

#

worked with neither && nor ; though

#

can try || in case killall always throws an error

#

I guess

frank finch
#

maybe the app hasn't closed by the time you go to run it again?

#

so maybe add a sleep as a dumb test?

old marlin
#

can I add a sleep in that

#

for a cronjob?

frank finch
#

kill command; sleep 10; command ?

old marlin
#

oh, okay

frank finch
#

yeah it's just a command

#

that sleeps for 10 seconds

old marlin
#

guess I'll try it

wheat plume
#

When you run a command via keyboard shortcut, does it run with bash even if you have another shell installed?

crimson wigeon
#

Entirely depends on what handles your shortcuts, it can either be directly exec'd or go through your default shell or through /bin/sh...

wheat plume
#

im setting my keybinds in the gnome settings

#

well the command worked with bash syntax (IE, no ' around the youtube link like how fish wants)

frank finch
#

you could bind echo "$SHELL" > /tmp/shell.log to a key to see what shell it uses 🙂

#

running cat /tmp/shell.log afterwards

wheat plume
#

/usr/bin/fish

crimson wigeon
#

I think that env var is only set on login

wheat plume
#

makes sense,

old marlin
#

fml

#

had to set the display

wheat plume
#

I find it hilarious someone in youtube was saying their iphone has a better screen than their samsung phone

and I was just there like BITCH THEY ARE BOTH SAMSUNG SCREENS

old marlin
#

small reminder that apple still uses LCD screens on $800 phones

#

meanwhile samsung had OLED screens since 2016?

#

on further notice

#

how many tries does mindfactory need to finally be able to get our order right

#

they mess up adresses every single time

#

and then forget with what payment option we ordered

#

so we always end up not getting stuff when ordering

misty pier
#

oled is great

wheat plume
#

every phone I have used so far is LCD

#

I only saw OLED and AMOLED and whatnot in stores ;-;

misty pier
#

compared to lcd, I don’t think I can go back

#

my eyes have adjusted to this way easier

wheat plume
#

I bet I coudnt too if I had OLEd

#

but im worried about burn in

#

and that strange thing my friend sometikes notices with colors bleeding when moving on the screen

misty pier
#

weird, I don’t really worry about burning it in since it isn’t on 24/7

wheat plume
#

its nice

#

how do I read the first part of the last line of a text file in Java if each line has 3 parts seperated by &?

fair gull
#

read all lines

#

grab last array index

#

split into a new array

#

grab first index

wheat plume
#

oo I do have an array of all lines already from a different class

fair gull
#

so reuse the output of it

wheat plume
#

Call that method?

fair gull
#

oh u mean class as in school class

#

not programmed class

wheat plume
#

in a different java file

#

ok, I got that array in a new array in this class

fair gull
#

but it returns a list of questions

#

id say make a new function

#

that just returns a list of strings

#

so each line as an array entry

#

or make a function that returns it how u want it

wheat plume
#

it returns a list of each line in the text file
each line has quesrtion number, question and question answer all seperated by an &

#

so now, I need to get the last line in this array and split it to get the first part which is the last question number

fair gull
#

yes

#

or use arraylength + 1

wheat plume
#

+?

fair gull
#

array length is 22

#

last question is 23

#

no wait

wheat plume
#

oh right, I will need to add 2 to the final number to get the next one, cause this class wants to add a new question to the file

fair gull
#

length is 23

#

forget the + 1

#

im just dumb

wheat plume
#

hmm, its length 23 but the next question number this class will be adding is 23 also

#

yeh?

fair gull
#

no?

#

ud increment that

wheat plume
#

wait length is 22 cause array start at 0
so the new question index will be 23 but the number will be 24

fair gull
#

ya

wheat plume
#

ffs, now I got to isolate that line and pull out the first part with split

#

working with arrays is stressful but also convenient most of the time

wheat plume
#

I got the last index with arrayOfQuestion.size()

fair gull
#

but that would give u the last + 1 index

#

cause size returns 23 in ur example

#

but the last index with 0 based arrays is 22

wheat plume
#

wont it return 22?

fair gull
#

size should return 23

wheat plume
#

oh...size gets the length and not last index

#

but .length doesnt work on ArrayLists

fair gull
#

anyway last index is size - 1

#

next question size + 1

wheat plume
#

ook

fair gull
#

next new index size

#

and current question is size

wheat plume
#

this hurts -.-

fair gull
#

or last current question

#

ull get used to it

#

or u can use lua

#

where arrays start at 1

ashen spindle
#

ew

fair gull
#

or u can use c# which is 10 times better than java cause no jvm

ashen spindle
#

yes

wheat plume
#

this should give me 22 I hope

#

well..once I split the lastLine variable

fair gull
#

@ashen spindle u know what will be fun? moving from net core 3.1 to net 5.0

wheat plume
#

wait.....im trying to get the next number here, not next index

ashen spindle
#

well, as I said im stuck on 4.x anyway for quite some time lul

fair gull
#

well hf when u can move

#

cause

#

u see

#

core to core is no big deal

#

usually most functions are the same

#

normal .net to a core

#

jebus

ashen spindle
#

I also dont know if unity ever moves to core

fair gull
#

altho ull most likely only be out of luck if u do web shit

#

cause thats all asp

#

normal system stuff is the same

#

unity will have to move to 5.0

wheat plume
old marlin
#

I just had to write my 4th mail today for one order

fair gull
#

since 4 will be lts at some point

old marlin
#

all they had to do was fix the damn address

ashen spindle
#

unity jumped from c# 3 to 7 so its not like I expect anything to happen anytime soon lmao

fair gull
#

they will prob jump tho cause no more need for mono

#

so more native exec

wheat plume
#

that is the last line tho

ashen spindle
#

does split in java take a string or a char?

fair gull
#

because ur function returns an arraylist of questions

#

literally returns a custom class

#

not a list of strings

wheat plume
#

I made an arrayList in the class that calls it

#
public static int getNextQuestionNumber() throws IOException {

        int nextQuestionNumber = 0;
        int lastArrayIndex = 0;
        String lastLine = "";

        ArrayList<Question> arrayOfQuestions = new ArrayList();
        QuizGenerator getArray = new QuizGenerator();

        arrayOfQuestions = getArray.getData("../javaProject/src/QandA.txt");
        lastArrayIndex = arrayOfQuestions.size() - 1;

        lastLine = arrayOfQuestions.get(lastArrayIndex).toString();

        String[] parts = lastLine.split("&");
        nextQuestionNumber = Integer.parseInt(parts[0]) + 1;

        return nextQuestionNumber;

    }
fair gull
#

just access that instead of toString

#

so

#
arrayOfQuestions.get(lastArrayIndex).Number
#

or whatever it is in the class

wheat plume
#

.Number isnt a thing

fair gull
#

what is then

wheat plume
#

so I need to change the lastLine variable?

fair gull
#

what

#

your function literally returns the Object "Question"

#

that i assume you coded

wheat plume
#

yeah, it does

fair gull
#

so whats the property on it for the question number

wheat plume
#

its an int

fair gull
#

name

wheat plume
#

questionNumber

fair gull
#

so .questionNumber and not .toString()

#

and then lastLine would already be the last question number

wheat plume
#

getQuestionNumber?

fair gull
#

so you can shorten it to ```jsvs
nextQuestionNumber = arrayOfQuestions.get(lastArrayIndex).questionNumber + 1;

#

since questionNumber is an int

wheat plume
#

maybe I cant use the getData method if it returns a Question object

fair gull
#

why

#

this literally fixes ur problem

#

if u already split it sensibly

#

u can just use the output

wheat plume
#

ok, idk why this works now :')

#

with your line

ashen spindle
#

you are accessing the property you put into the question class/struct yourself

#

thats all

wheat plume
#

I had to change it slightly to this

nextQuestionNumber = arrayOfQuestions.get(lastArrayIndex).getQuestionNumber() + 1;
fair gull
#

basically

wheat plume
#

im glad my function to write it back to the file works, I coudnt test it before xd

fair gull
#

the way it works is

#

this arrayOfQuestions.get(lastArrayIndex)

#

is equal to Question temp = new Question{DATAOFQUESTIONAT_lastArrayIndex}

#

so that the point where the .getQuestionNumber() is reached

#

its basically as if u operate on the question itself in the arrayList

wheat plume
#

hmmm

#

okkk

#

I hate how long showMessageDialog lines can get

#

XD

ashen spindle
#

better not look at graphics API calls then

wheat plume
#

O.o

#

I havent gone further than JFrames

old marlin
#

java swing monkaS

#

rip java fx dogeKekker

wheat plume
#

I had to use JavaFX with my friend when I helped him make his music player project

old marlin
#

welllll

#

javafx is dead

wheat plume
#

he found a nice GUI builder for it

old marlin
#

yea

wheat plume
#

welp

old marlin
#

it also looks a lot better than swing

#

but java fx is dead

#

and swing is not

wheat plume
#

wow ;-;

old marlin
#

yea

wheat plume
#

I assume its cause swing is built in

old marlin
#

got kicked out in some version

wheat plume
#

When they add a question, I should make them start the quiz, cause they get asked if they want to add a question when they click the start button...wouldnt make sense to just stop the program and make them have to get asked if they want to add a question again

ashen spindle
wheat plume
#

I feel if I upload this project to github anyone who finds my repo will post it onto some page that makes fun of stupid github users

#

I know there is one on telegram

ashen spindle
#

new != stupid

fair gull
#

stupid github users are people like me

wheat plume
#

I saw the people who stole ExtendedUI in that channel showing a commit that was just renaming shit from exui to cescium

they still think they are allowed do that shit -.-

fair gull
#

part of it for years on end and still fucks up repos

wheat plume
#

oof, I forget how to commit changes in my project in IntelliJ to my github repo I pulled it down from cause each time I try to push it gives errors even though I am logged in

#

(idk where in the code this is now)

ashen spindle
#

just search for all instances where you access the index

wheat plume
#

oh found it

fair gull
#

always wrote code that u can find stuff in

#

name functions sensibly

#

and name classes sensibly

wheat plume
#

They are named mostly sensibly

fair gull
#

like just for the future since idk if u wanna keep coding

wheat plume
#

I just forgot cause I didnt need to look at this part of the code in a while

fair gull
#

oh and document the shit out of code

wheat plume
#

I have comments all over

fair gull
#

nice

#

and last thing dont use java

wheat plume
#

LEL

ashen spindle
#

or get really really really specialized in some niche java variant nobody uses so you get rich as a contractor

wheat plume
#

wait, it might be getting t he percentage wrong if it also got the total amount of questions wrong too

#

ffs ;-; I need to check this

fair gull
#

or just do fortran

#

easy money

wheat plume
#

cause it said you answered 24 but there was 25 questions

ashen spindle
#

you mean cobol to get rich

fair gull
#

both are easy rich

#

no one likes either

#

they are just for nerds

ashen spindle
#

super nerdy masochists

fair gull
#

ya

wheat plume
fair gull
#

its like coding brainfuck but with normal words

#

and yet you fucked it up

#

happens to the best

wheat plume
#

what?

fair gull
wheat plume
#

🤔

fair gull
#

wait didnt u say ur percentage is wrong

wheat plume
#

it might be
the end message said I answered 24 questions but there are 25 questions, so it might be using a value thats 1 less than it should to get the percentage too

#

but I dont think it is because I cheated and got 100% of them right and it got 100% and not higher if the value was 1 too less

zenith sonnet
#

So....Comet? Lake
Neither bad nor outstanding, looks better on paper than in benchmarks, good only in a niche of max refresh rate gaming, a little bit to expensive, and really just a year late to the market

wheat plume
#

its just to record in the text file anyway

ashen spindle
#

well cml caused amd to drop prices to have a better standing so that's good enough :p

#

and for some use cases its still the choice, if HEDT if above your budget for example, but it's getting close to be in an amd fx situation on intel :p

zenith sonnet
#

AMD got a refresh incoming, that's gonna spice things up

ashen spindle
#

not gonna change it in some space, mostly will just pull ahead where it's only barely winning is my guess

zenith sonnet
#

It might close the gap on the 10600K in max refresh rate

#

Everywhere else, there's already a Ryzen that's a better deal than CML

ashen spindle
#

emulation, some applications like maya, and science stuff is mostly where intel still has a win

#

2-300mhz more is not changing that

zenith sonnet
#

Anyone doing benchmarks on those?

ashen spindle
#

then you have cases like this were a 3950x wins but also costs much more so 10-9 is still viable etc.

wheat plume
ashen spindle
#

time to sleep till RKL/zen3 anyway, the refresh is only a nice upgrade for whoever was going to get something in that price area already

zenith sonnet
#

Yeah...

#

TPU also finally got their review samples

#

10900K is 4% ahead of the 3700X in WQHD gaming

misty pier
#

wonder how much the performance differs between zen 2 and zen 3

ashen spindle
#

about as much as zen to zen 2 is said

zenith sonnet
#

Rumours are anywhere between 15-20% atm

ashen spindle
#

also makes sense, wqhd is still gpu limited

misty pier
#

ah, just a small bump

ashen spindle
#

no? thats pretty big

#

bc that's not including the higher frequencies we get

#

bc its still on the same node

misty pier
#

oh the new ones have more higher freqs?

ashen spindle
#

ye, same process so not a drop in frequency

misty pier
#

ah gotcha

wheat plume
empty wren
#

that looks really tall

wheat plume
#

is 21:9

ashen spindle
#

21 phone to 9 human?

wheat plume
#

Even their budget £169 phone is 21:9

#

21 phone to 9 human?
@ashen spindle LEL

#

What CPU to pair with a GTX 1660TI?

old marlin
#

depends on budget

#

and what you wanna do

#

you never go wrong with a 3300X

ashen spindle
#

3300x or 3600 probably, depending on budget

wheat plume
#

around 700-800 for the PC

old marlin
#

if you plan to stay with one monitor

#

don't plan on anything multitasking

#

the 3300X will be fine

wheat plume
#

wdym no multitasking? I can run a crap ton of programs at once with my current CPU :') and its a 4th gen

ashen spindle
#

discord is not multitasking

old marlin
#

well

ashen spindle
#

youtube isn't an instrument either

old marlin
#

I mean intensive stuff

wheat plume
#

discord, youtube, IntelliJ, sometimes I have gimp open too for editing wallpapers

old marlin
#

wowee

#

the 3300X is a very capable CPU

#

basically a 3600X

#

with half the cores and threads

#

and a slight clock speed bump

wheat plume
#

you are making it sound it cant run more than 2 apps at a time though

ashen spindle
#

discord is not multitasking

wheat plume
#

but with the list of apps I said above

#
  • minecraft and shaders
old marlin
#

it definetley can

#

4C 8T

#

good SC performance

wheat plume
#

oo

old marlin
#

for 130 euros

ashen spindle
#

are you compiling code while running minecraft and making a 3d model?

wheat plume
#

nu

old marlin
#

if you think you need 4C 16T pay 50 more

#

and get the 3600 / 3600X

#

oh right

ashen spindle
#

well, the 3600xt is supposed to come soon

old marlin
#

compile times on AMD are MUCH better

ashen spindle
#

so in that case waiting a bit might be better, 7/7 probably buyable date for that one

wheat plume
old marlin
#

oof

zenith sonnet
#

3600 if you can

wheat plume
ashen spindle
#

no

zenith sonnet
#

3300X if you really don't have the budget

ashen spindle
#

3600

#

not x

zenith sonnet
#

Without X

old marlin
wheat plume
#

ohh

old marlin
#

have you tried uhhhh

#

living in a real country?

wheat plume
#

id still be living in america if my dad didnt die ;-;

old marlin
#

uhhh

#

well

#

there is some good to it I guess

wheat plume
#

hm?

zenith sonnet
#

Lol

ashen spindle
#

yeah, america isn't much more real rooKek

old marlin
#

you don't live in the US for once

wheat plume
#

lol

old marlin
#

riiiip

wheat plume
#

but tech is too over priced in ireland

old marlin
#

ireland is zone 2

#

so 35 euro shipping from mindfactory

wheat plume
#

its also a 3rd world country

old marlin
#

still cheaper dogekek

crimson wigeon
#

Mindfactory ships again all across EU?

ashen spindle
#

no bc import tax I bet

wheat plume
#

no no, add one 23% import fees

old marlin
#

what

#

it is in EU

wheat plume
#

o

old marlin
#

and you still add tax

#

germany

#

to ireland

ashen spindle
#

but its ireland, are you sure they dont have some way to add extra tax

old marlin
#

in EU shouldn't add tax

#

true

#

tbh

wheat plume
#

they say (boxed) beside some of the CPU, do they not sell most of them in a box?????

old marlin
#

nah

zenith sonnet
#

Boxed is with cooler

old marlin
#

you can get most of them tray

#

ye

#

and better warranty

wheat plume
#

o

zenith sonnet
#

Tray is just the chip

old marlin
#

there also are WOF ones

#

with box but no cooler

#

but better warranty

wheat plume
#

does that site have wifi cards too? this one doesnt

old marlin
#

probably

#

one of the biggest retailers

#

getting a wifi mobo might be a better idea

#

lemme check

wheat plume
#

as long as its linux compatible

#

thats my biggest worry

old marlin
#

lol

#

well

#

can't help you with that then

#

win 10 would be plug and play

wheat plume
#

the gpu + mobo + cpu shouldnt matter for Linux

#

but the wifi card will

shadow minnow
#

Yeah, Linux compatibility is kinda...

ashen spindle
#

built in wifi on the board shouldn't matter?

#

then again its linux so who knows

shadow minnow
#

@wheat plume there are some monos that have not got drivers for Linux

ashen spindle
#

fuck linux btw

old marlin
#

lol

#

what formdactor

wheat plume
#

it runs fine on 3 of my friends laptops

ashen spindle
#

spend way too much time on the linux server today and it just doesnt want to work with websockets

old marlin
#

cheapest AM4 board with wifi is an X370 mini ITX dogeKekker

ashen spindle
#

oof, probably better to go with 400 series for zen3 upgrade later on

old marlin
#

Ye

ashen spindle
#

do the mortar or tomahwak ahve wifi built in?

#

oh, only 5 b450 boards have wifi built in lmao

old marlin
#

aorus pro B450 is teh cheapest B450 with wifi

#

for 126

#

uhhhh

shadow minnow
#

Built in WiFi comes usually with higher end chipsets

old marlin
#

wanna go mini ITX?

#

unrelated to chipset

shadow minnow
#

Usually it is

#

I would say that more than half of z490 or x570 boards come with WiFi

wheat plume
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;-;

ashen spindle
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b550 comes june 16 and might have a cheaper variant with wifi with a bit of luck?