except it was planned before the whole covid thing was known..
#🔌│tech
latent mural
I don't think it's a smart business move to reveal UE5 on small platform like that but Epic have so much money they can afford to make weird choices
pale sigil
E3 poop so I’m happy with something else
It doesn’t matter what they reveal it on
It’s epic and unreal engine
lol
crimson wigeon
Why does it matter it's just an engine the people who it matters to are going to know
ashen spindle
and for pr, people will know it when the first trailer shows the unreal 5 logo, not like it matters much for them now
latent mural
they reveal the tech to their competitors and were already making a killing from UE4 i don't know what business sense it is to announce it now, UE4 isn't even very old.
pale sigil
Unreal doesn’t really have any competition
latent mural
thats pretty untrue
ashen spindle
oh no, real time graphics really matter to pixar, who used unity for a cartoon movie...
ye meant pixar, thought of disney
latent mural
Unity, Lumberyard, then upcoming ones like Unigine. There is better software films can use then a game engine.
pale sigil
XD
latent mural
Yeah it's a fork of Cryengine
pale sigil
XD
ashen spindle
correction: it's a joke of cryengine 
pale sigil
XD
latent mural
Hardly a joke when Cryengine used to be as good or better than Unreal.
pale sigil
Unreal is leagues ahead of other engines that are public
latent mural
If games like Star Citizen and New World become successful then Lumberyard will see a big boost
ashen spindle
again, you like the games someone made with it, you never touched the engine I bet
pale sigil
And is expensive af to use
It cannot compete with unreal
It’s hard to use too
From what I’ve read
ashen spindle
did you use it?
latent mural
Unity is better for mobile games, Unigine seems impressive.
pale sigil
Ah
ashen spindle
depends on what you do, the engine certainly has some strong parts just like some big weaknesses
pale sigil
Unity can be pretty amazing but like it’s unity
latent mural
Cryengine is very hard to use
pale sigil
Unity became its own tramp stamp
latent mural
Unity is not as complete out the box as Unreal but can achieve the same results. I prefer Unreal though.
ashen spindle
have you seen how the Book Of The Dead unity graphics look?
ashen spindle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDsRfbfnC_A you can do realism and whatever in unity
if you want snowdrop go to canada, they dev team is there not europe
pale sigil
From what I’ve read it takes a shit more to do something like that on unity vs unreal
latent mural
I wouldn't want to work with anything Ubishit made tbh
pale sigil
Again I’m no expert
ashen spindle
montreal has most of the snowdrop people now iirc
pale sigil
I’ve just read and heard from people using them
latent mural
@prisma crag if ur good with cryengine apply for a job with star citizen's creators
they have studios in US
they hired half of cryengines devs back in the day
pale sigil
Ye that’s a good job to have cos You’ll keep it forever 
ashen spindle
if its just about wanting a good job you have forever, then ubisoft if what you want
latent mural
oh god no
pale sigil
Working on star citizen has it perks
You get to go to work and do 30 min of work and the rest of the day laugh at donators
latent mural
CDProjekt and Rock* are the crème de la crème. If you get into one of those you've literally made it in life. Ubipoop and EA are very corporate and not as fun to work for.
pale sigil
You could also try and sell out
ashen spindle
ashen spindle
look if you want to burn yourself out and dont mind massive overtime every week then sure, you'd be correct
but I really dont like that sort of work
pale sigil
Smaller companies can be a good choice
ashen spindle
in terms of work conditions, ubi is by far the best option out of your list
latent mural
ubi are communist sympathizers
took stuff out of siege because the CCP told them to
and they are always pandering to political correctness
there games are subpar
the division is dumpster fire, siege looks like a 10 year old game
ashen spindle
in terms of work conditions
man, are you even trying to have an argument or are you just avoiding every topic I mention by accident
pale sigil
Division 2 was alright
latent mural
they been copy & pasting Creed games for years
Anno 1800 isn't very good
Far cry another copy & paste franchise
we know the mess with Ghost Recon Breakpoint and how that was a failure
vagrant prairie
I love CDPR, but from what I've heard, it's a nightmare to work for them.
latent mural
I have doubts Ubipoop are even capable of making a good game anymore
@vagrant prairie no they have an amazing studio it's just very pressured right now because they are pushing very had for a 2020 Cyberpunk release date
reef patrol
It's a nightmare to work for all AAA devs.
ashen spindle
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
latent mural
CDPR is one of they few studio i'd buy there game at launch for full price
ashen spindle
yeah cdpr is totally just pressured for now, that's definitely all
a good product says nothing about how it is to work there and vice versa
latent mural
i'd rather work for a company that makes good product than bad ones
it's called having pride in your craft
ashen spindle
ah yes, pride, the good reason to forsake a good salary, good working conditions, get burnout for and so on
vagrant prairie
From what I've heard, CDPR had the same with Witcher 3.
pale sigil
CDPR love crunch
ashen spindle
if you have pride in your craft you should also have some pride in being a human being worth something
latent mural
With Elon Musk's help I will become a Meta human
have one of those Neuralink's plugged into my brain stem
YeeeeHawwww!
ashen spindle
well, if you want to be more desirable for company profit as a main point sure
latent mural
@prisma crag placed your order for the cyber truck yet?
it's only $100 to preorder https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/design#battery
ashen spindle
biggest change of the entire announcement
latent mural
most likely becos they made so much from Fortnite already
ashen spindle
no because that was the biggest argument unity had for it
latent mural
Todd Sweeney is a good man though he is the champion of gamers
@ashen spindle Hmmm? Unity is $40/pm
ashen spindle
its free for less than 100k anually of income from it
latent mural
Todd Sweeney, Elon Musk, and Trump are my top 3 American influencers.
@prisma crag you would be better of buying a cyber truck
sick creek
does anyone know of a pc case that takes microATX and aligns the psu vertically instead of horizontally?
like the thermaltake core g3 but slimmer
ashen spindle
@reef patrol
sick creek
i'm having a real hard time, it's like everyone wants to make mini itx/dtx or atx, nothing inbetween
where do you live at
oof
maui?
reef patrol
... Vertically?
sick creek
@reef patrol like 90 degrees,
so the fan would be facing the side of the case
to make the case thinner
reef patrol
I have - never - seen a case like you describe. Sorry. 🙂
reef patrol
I imagine something with SFX PSU mounts helps there.
I mean the Sentry 2.0 was pretty damn slim. Xbox slim.
sick creek
yea, problem is most if not all cases that take SFF psu's dont take microatx
just mini itx/dtx
i just hate how chunky this silverstone sg-somethingiforgotthenumber is
sick creek
i dont have a reddit acct
lol
thats what i was afraid of
the core g3 is still slim and cheap tho
so i might still use it
was just hoping for even smaller
like the lian-li pc-06sx
but they dont make that one anymore 😦
5 slots where
because 5 slots is ATX, not micro atx lol
ah
yea, that's just stupid. if you require that much space you might as well go ATX
like the extra 2 inches or whatever isnt going to kill your build lol
latent mural
nobody needs an ATX case these days
sick creek
yeah i'm never buying a spinning hard drive ever again
reef patrol
They're useful for cold storage. But aside from that....agreed.
So glad NVME has gotten so cheap.
latent mural
people ATX case then fill it with rainbow puke and funko pops
aliens would think those people are very odd
i did already
spinny drives are for old people and data centres
reef patrol
ashen spindle
@old marlin have you found something better for home cctv than what I linked when you were looking for stuff? think I need to set up cameras now lmao
ashen spindle
ah too bad
old marlin
another KO card, I wonder if this one will be a higher tier chip as well
also intel CPU pricing
550 for the 10900KF
surely is competitive pricing 
oh also you can save like 20 euros by going with a 10700K insteadof a 9900K
which you can add threefold on your motherboard
N O I C E
old marlin
especially when the upgrade path seems to be that gen and nothing more
well 115x was at it's limit with the 9900k
sick creek
Ehm, i dont buy that with intel
sick creek
Did they finally change their fragile socket design
sick creek
Pins > pads imho
old marlin
maybe thicker pins
maybe thicker substrate
well pads have advantages
higher density
less fragile CPUs
sick creek
Stop throwing your cpus around
sick creek
Lol i cant really relate
old marlin
related to their CPUs not sitting tight enough in the socket
sick creek
Never bent an amd pin
old marlin
so you could pull them out accidentally with the cooler
old marlin
I mean
stop throwing stuff in your sockets
I guess?
could say the same there
you get a socket cover
put it in there when needed
sick creek
I guess. But like, with the amd style it is a straight pin
Not some zigzag velcro pin
sick creek
Oh i didnt say i broke any
old marlin
only broke one AMD CPU
sick creek
But i’ve bent several
old marlin
was no way around it
well also never bent any so much I had to actively mitigate it
bent some back to shape, yea
some DL380 G8 servers
with some bent pins
sick creek
Yeah i did it recently somehow on the dual cpu board i posted recently
old marlin
can blame the socket design for those though
sick creek
Was sweating bullets but got them back as good as i could and it booted up fine, recognized cpus and ram so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
old marlin
well
tehy can take quite a beating
you just have to approach rebending right
on AMD the pins rip internally if they get bent too much
was the case with the one AMD CPU with bent pins I had
sick creek
The three bent pins were higher than the rest but i got them aligned to the right spots
old marlin
we had to use a hammer and a wooden ruler to get it off the cooler
sick creek
Wat
sick creek
What TIM did you use
old marlin
at that point we were ready to accept that it was dead
stock AMD TIM
sat on there for years
sick creek
Yuck
old marlin
was a system of a friend that wanted to upgrade
sick creek
Must have been concrete by then
sick creek
Ah shit thats the cpu i am trying to find a matx case for
old marlin
lol
sick creek
2500k
sick creek
Good cpu lol
old marlin
got that out of a medion prebuilt
had 2 dead boards with it
one was the medion one
one was an asrock one
sick creek
Whats medion?
old marlin
prebuilt brand
sick creek
Like dell?
old marlin
I think only european
sick creek
Ah
old marlin
welll
kiinda
they are the thing you'll see in your local ALDI
tehy have some decent stuff
sick creek
Ah, lol. Well, american aldis dont have anything but groceries
sick creek
Yeah but like here, strictly grocery
old marlin
some well priced gaming systems
sick creek
I have a hard time with oems tbh
Unless its something i cant build myself
Which is super rare
sick creek
Mostly server shit
old marlin
or parts that are like a normal one
sick creek
The intel server i gutted for that dual cpu board was so lame. So much proprietary shit
old marlin
they even offer some boutique stuff by now, with custom hardline water loops etc
lol
you tell me
I have a stack of DL380 G8 at work
even the CPUs are in little carriers
sick creek
Look up intel S2400SC
Lol
The i/o on it is legit terrible
The san isnt good, the sata isnt good, i dont get what its purpose was
sick creek
Yeah idk.
I decided i’m just throwing ubuntu 20.04 server on it, unplugging the gpu and calling it a day
wheat plume
wtf is "Program"??
ashen spindle
iirc that might be a thing related to teams
ashen spindle
right click and look where its located...
wheat plume
it wont let me open file location
ashen spindle
properites?
ashen spindle
im only using teams' web interface at home so cant check
but I remember something like that appearing when we started using teams
wheat plume
I dont need teams anymore, Imma uninstall
ashen spindle
and then I just disabbled it
wheat plume
o
ashen spindle
well, looks like someone at marketwatch doesn't know timezones, so we know the info about ampere lmao
datacenter monster cards jfc
@fair gull ready to replace your gpus ? lmao
halcyon moss
well.. link~!
ashen spindle
he mixed up 6am ET with 6am PT, the actual NDA lift :p
extremely high node shrink and the die still got bigger than volta/turing :p
wheat plume
absolute UNIT of a GPU
ashen spindle
ampere? CHADpere
wheat plume
APLHApere
fair gull
21 transistors?
ashen spindle
yes
wheat plume
the website site it has more than twice the transistors as volta
they wayyyy underestimate it but its still not wrong
fair gull
bruh thats not even a gpu as in pcie gpu
ashen spindle
yeah A100/V100 is the chip for Tesla boards, not pcie gpus
fair gull
i mean
if i open a data center sure ill buy them
but last i checked
i dont plant on building and opening a datacenter in the middle of nowhere
ashen spindle
well I meant 3080 for you :p
wheat plume
im so damn happy now.....I found a command to start the oracle listener if it doesnt start at boot up ...
I reallly really fucking wish I knew about this long before now
I hate the oracle connection string -.- it puts your login and password in plain view of whoever opens that class
halcyon moss
create the string from other vars?
red oyster
Yea
Just encrypt your password with AES or something
Wouldn't make it saver if people really wanted it but it wouldn't be in plain text
fair gull
ma use envvars or read it in from config files or whatever
ashen spindle
gtc keynote is split up and now on the nvidia channe; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOf2S7OzFEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOf2S7OzFEg&list=PLZHnYvH1qtOZ2BSwG4CHmKSVHxC2lyIPL playlist if someone wants to watch
latent mural
3000 series or not interested
ashen spindle
well, watch it and maybe you're in luck :p
25kg for the new dgx1 ampere board lmao one heavy piece of pc
ashen spindle
lol just put monitor on desk
pale sigil
I have done that my entire life
anyway, im scared of carrying heavy things cos of my past back trauma
Had to get my sister to help me
wait
stand isn't the right ansnwer
ashen spindle
nani?? an enemy stand user??
zenith sonnet
So, is the UE5 demo on the PS5 what we may see in games in 15 years? 🤔
ashen spindle
no?
reef patrol
Maybe late next gen. Maybe.
zenith sonnet
Aren't AAA titles nowadays just starting to get close to the UE4 demo on the PS3 in quality?
wheat plume
the most stupid video in existance
split cipher
why?
wheat plume
how would a 99 dollar phone running on samsungs versions of android be fast enough to compete with the A13 bionic chip?
wheat plume
if its got better perfomance than the Galaxy A71 then yeah
99 dollars wont do anything
split cipher
they should have taken a 400 dollar samsung...
wheat plume
^^^
split cipher
jes, the cheapest iphone which you can buy new is the new iphone se
wheat plume
Yup
young flicker
Don't forget to wash your hands after you guys finish smugly circle jerking.
orchid silo
Sony makes good phones, but their design team must have been kokk blokked for the last 7 years or so, every phone has like 30% bezels.
chrome estuary
by existing and doing shit people need rather than being a 'cheap' phone.
oh fuck i was way behind
pale sigil
I missed using monitor arms so much!
reef patrol
Oh lovely. More kernel level DRM 😆
old marlin
fml
denuvo is THE WORST
I hate it SO much
especially bad since they fucked up the release
and gave otu a denuvo free version on launch
G R E A T
old marlin
zboard 
reef patrol
Just saw this on FB. The good old Zboard.
old marlin
best adverts 
vast slate
too bad there no proper win10 drivers for this board. You have to literally hack windows to get this board working
wheat plume
The MIUI website is intense af now :')
they went all out making 3d animations to promote their new animated wallpapers
young flicker
Damn it, I had just swallowed the regular Denuvo pill but I can’t bring myself to support any ring 0 DRM. It reminds me of this old picture:
young flicker
It CAN but you can ignore that part of the image, the point was the hassle you get for being a paying customer.
young flicker
Yep. It’s funny because online game stores are already a form of DRM themselves. Now it seems like they’ve realized that the rubes will be alright with this type of invasiveness if it’s in the name of preventing cheating.
ashen spindle
they can be a form of drm, not all are (just most :p )
old marlin
EGS drm is optional for games
and all it does is check if a folder exists on starting
got that infor from an EGS employee
or well
he was at that time
so very minimal
the one on steam can be similar actually
don't care about DRM as long as it doesn't hurt the experience
young flicker
Ring 0 is something I can’t be alright with on principle. Things like machine activation limits à la SecuROM are also a no-go for me. Otherwise I understand a level of DRM even if I disagree with it.
ashen spindle
it just makes no sense after it's already breached lmao
like if you still want to enforce it despite accidentely sharing a drm free version bc contracts, sure go ahead
but extra deep drm into your system for no reason? no thanks
young flicker
Yep, and I had literally just decided to buy the game a few days ago despite regular Denuvo which costs a substantial performance premium to run. I definitely wasn’t planning on using that other .exe, that would be piracy.
ashen spindle
can cost not every implementation is like the one shit version some dev made
already forgot what game it was that had like a gigantic boost after denuvo got removed
young flicker
Does/did for Eternal. I saw a comparison and it was around 15%.
old marlin
previous doom was simialr iirc
young flicker
I thought it was relatively DRM free and Steam doesn’t mention any third party DRM for it.
Ah, I guess it had Denuvo at one point but they removed it. Hopefully they come to their senses with Eternal but they seem to be moving in the opposite direction.
old marlin
previous one was denuvo at teh start
got removed after 3 months
list of those games got taked off of wikipedia btw
young flicker
No shit, what list? That’s borderline dystopian.
young flicker
Sounds like a Wikipedia replacement is in order. :/ We may not have all of the cool stuff yet but the 80s cyberpunk future is slowly becoming a reality.
young flicker
I wonder what garbage corporate ass-kissing reason they gave for censoring that information. Probably something about piracy. Thank you for the link.
old marlin
probably some "this hurts our business" crap
young flicker
I can’t believe Wikipedia complied. I already knew it was imperfect but so much for the internet’s bastion of free information.
ashen spindle
you can probably find the change/takedown request and reason on some database, idk if wikipedia itself provides one
zenith sonnet
Userbenchmark 
https://i.redd.it/vofbims5svy41.png
pale sigil
4 cores
ashen spindle
nothing new
pale sigil
they have always sucked intels dick
ashen spindle
and before that tehy just were a bad website
zenith sonnet
Yeah
But that's just... so wrong on so many levels
ashen spindle
the entire site is made to make money
from ads, placing high in google searches etc.
zenith sonnet
We know
Try reading what they wrote there, though
It's actually funny, it's so bad
reef patrol
That image if fun because they clearly don't have access to the CPU yet. No one does.
ashen spindle
the link that is showing to the 10th gen cpu results they talk about has one entry.... on a site meant for people to submit scores...
reef patrol
Every tech reviewer gave them a sarcastic earful the other day about it.
They clearly took an existing CPU and did a synthetic comparison - which is not the same as having it. It is a guess.
ashen spindle
at least before they were just a useless site with the goal to make money, now they are an actively harmful site
no much worse
reef patrol
ashen spindle
well UB didnt have a sample "someone" had a result and thats what they use :p
reef patrol
misty pier
i mostly look at keyboard reviews nowadays
more interesting stuff with keebs than with regular tech
neat oriole
iPhone SE is gonna sell really well because the truth is most people don’t care about bezels
ashen spindle
original SE sold like hotcakes, so yeah, definitely see this happening again
neat oriole
Embedded finger print scanners still kinda suck these days
ashen spindle
I still prefer just having a pincode lol
neat oriole
Yeah pin codes aren’t bad
But I know like 4 of my friends who have it set to 1111 or 0000 or some other 4 of the same number
ashen spindle
yeah...
neat oriole
Your average consumer just wants convenience
neat oriole
Do they care that the majority of android face unlocks are 2D based and can be tricked with a picture?
ashen spindle
as long as it stays optional I am fine if I can just keep using pins
neat oriole
Yeah a good secure pin is still better than most solutions
pale sigil
Fingerprint is a must for me, though im not enjoying behind screen fingerprints
they aren't as good when you have screen protectors
neat oriole
I know on iOS you can straight up have an alphanumeric password
woeful comet
On android I remember it being there
Since my first phone
But, I hate mobile keyboard
neat oriole
You can also have a numeric passcode longer than 6 digits
woeful comet
I think it's any multiple of 2
neat oriole
Nah it can be any length
ashen spindle
Ye
neat oriole
You can make it one digit if you’re dumb enough
woeful comet
easiest to crack ever
ashen spindle
Only if you try it, you don’t see how long the pw is :p
woeful comet
Oh right
young flicker
reef patrol
Cursed.
hoary dock
is this the imperial layout?
chrome prawn
@prisma crag I think a lot of us who went for the original SE are holding out for another small phone (with the newest chip) that has minimal bezel. The rumored 5.4" iPhone 12 coming this year is the SE successor for us. I'm still hoping it's a flagship, but I'd be happy with just the newest chipset if I can have that size back.
For people who bought the SE because it was affordable, rather than for the tech, the new SE should work just fine.
The 2020 iPhone lineup has leaked. There's going to be a 5.4" phone.
5.4-inch iPhone 12: 131 x 64 mm (5.15 x 2.51-inches)
Yeah, it's barely bigger than the 5/5s/SE but has the same screen size as the 6/7/8 Plus, as an OLED display. Basically my ideal phone. I'd happily miss out on the extra 2GB of RAM for that.
Employer picks?
Yeah for sure
That's what makes this a game changer
But at the same time it shows the big phone trend because the other models are going up in size. They're just giving one small phone with new tech option.
Yep
ashen spindle
well rip giphy https://twitter.com/WillOremus/status/1261499417787498497
wheat plume
wait...so if you search giphy via gboard, itll log your keystrokes even after you leave the text box???
pale sigil
i use gyphycat
ashen spindle
where tf did you read that part
wheat plume
giphy can track each keystrokes thats searched using giphy tools
reef patrol
Eh... nothing new.
ashen spindle
well yeah that they can log stuff you use in their tools is absolutely normal....
fickle heron
Hey guys not sure if it’s the right Chanel, my brother made a custom keyboard language layout that includes every symbol and accent so that you don’t have to switch language settings no matter what you want to type (as long as you stay with the English alphabet) would anyone be interested in downloading it in the future? My brother says no one would use it and I’m trying to convince him to publish it
reef patrol
Sure? I use a modified US International Layout for my ANSI boards to get access to all of my Danish keys
fickle heron
Do you utilise DKS to print the keys or do you use control or somethinf
vast moss
Why do my different displays show full-width alphanumeric differently? The top is from a 22" 1080p 100% zoom and the bottom is from a 15.6" 2160p 250% zoom. I noticed when I set the latter to 1080p 100% that it showed like the top, so is it in the display zoom?
fallow bison
is it on the same GPU?
vast moss
I think so
reef patrol
Isn't that Windows' Cleartype messing up a bit?
fallow bison
I think it may be related to it not rendering anti-aliasing
vast moss
I can do a bit more testing to confirm whether it's the same, but both should be on the integrated GPU
vast moss
Yep, part of the Japanese Microsoft IME
misty saffron
send that thing here
vast moss
It should be an option in Windows's input settings; let me find where you can set it
misty saffron
ａ
cleartype just shits itself at some point
it's fine, cleartype is that way sometimes
vast moss
If you're using Windows 10, it should be Settings > Time & Language > Language > Add a preferred language (Install the Japanese language pack)
then 日本語 > Options > Add a keyboard (select Microsoft IME)
hum
more like "at all times" for me, but maybe that just means ClearType needs patching?
misty saffron
what do you mean by patching?
it's just coded that way
you can get mactype if you really dislike cleartype, i guess
but considering it's essentially just a GDI hook, it's not perfect in the slightest
vast moss
as in fixing, to add anti-aliasing
misty saffron
it's pretty much just freetype made to replace cleartype by hooking GDI
only microsoft can fix that 😛
vast moss
Yeah, I figure
And while at least for now I have the other display so it's not all lost, if I get a new PC I'll probably use just the larger monitor (after all, the smaller one is from my laptop) so for that I'd like to see it fixed
misty saffron
i hate 4k on windows just because the scaling implementation is hot garbage
this screenshot says it all https://up.hw.gl/iwpDTfQABH.png
pale sigil
toasty
fair gull
that weekend u get stuck in C development cause u want to revive an mmo thats dead since 9 years
vast moss
For me the 4K was part of the display, but it sees nothing good at all because I hardly have a game that can do 4K60
misty saffron
the code it generates is good enough at best
fair gull
next thing i know u recommend g++
misty saffron
just saying it produces literally useless code
fair gull
and this would make any modern cpu care why?
virtually no difference
and theres nothing better
if u care so much just contribute to it
u certainly seem like u know how to improve it
if the code isnt garbage gcc does a good job
thats the bottom line
misty saffron
and this would make any modern cpu care why?
turn off optimization, surely a modern cpu can handle it 
if the code isnt garbage gcc does a good job
code quality isn't the issue in my example
you can't defend inefficiency like that, speed and size always matters
fair gull
not passing any optimize flags in debug
so ya
runs fine
i mean i can add -O0 is u really want
but it wont change shit
misty saffron
you're not supposed to optimize debug builds anyways though 🤔
fair gull
i only run debug builds
misty saffron
🤔
fair gull
why would i not
in an INDEV project
ya ill just run release binaries all the time
and get weird debugging sessions
thats what i came for
misty saffron
or are you saying testing performance isn't a valid reason to run release once in a while
idk why you even started telling me you only run debug builds at this point
fair gull
ah yes in a state where literally nothing works yet
ill just run a release build
and test fucking performance i dont care about yet
misty saffron
well excuse me for not knowing nothing works
fair gull
truly the way of a good developer
misty saffron
i apologize
fair gull
i literally todl u its indev
misty saffron
um
fair gull
prerelease i might consider a release build profiling
indev u just dont profile
make it work first optimize later
everything else is just wasted time
misty saffron
"indev" isn't a standard term, could mean literally anything though
sorry for not thinking like you do, again
fair gull
i dont get how the literal "in development" is smth that could mean anything
and i dont know how someone doesnt know it if they are an active dev
misty saffron
i could say a nearly done project is in development, can't i?
because it is in development
fair gull
lol yes cause at a stage were prerelease literally fits if ure "right before a release" id just say nono its not gonna release soon its just in development
misty saffron
otherwise it would be.. not in development?
fair gull
baffels me how after all these years of developing i never had to have to explain these simple things to someone who seems to be a developer
well imma dip since u dont seem to grasp the simple concept of precedence
misty saffron
i'm just fucking with you at this point, but my point still stands: "in development" doesn't equal "nothing works"
fair gull
in development equals theres no point in release builds
i dont build a wall and make it fancy before the house is finished either
u first build it and then make it fancy
function first, rest later
misty saffron
not a really good way of development tbh, you really wanna make sure shit functions with the optimizations (which could very well break the code/building process) before it's a clusterfuck and tracking down the issue is really damn hard
fair gull
to keep at the house
just tear down the wall in the way then and build one that has an opening that fits or whatever
optimizing smth thats existing is easier than optimizing for non existent functions
with non existent code
misty saffron
we're talking about testing compiler optimizations
which could very much fuck the build process up (on, for example, msvc) while you have no idea it's doing that because you were building in debug the whole time
tracing down what is causing the code generation step to take minutes is really no fun
fair gull
na new and trendy would be webasm or .net core 5 or whatever the new fangeld shit is
crimson wigeon
Yeah imagine running server on web browser technology haha who would do that oh wait
misty saffron
clang is actually pretty good
fair gull
na clang good
rest trash
TWL
(that means today we learned)
(just in case u didnt know)
misty saffron
lul
fair gull
that means "love you lots" or "laughing out loud" depending on context
if u didnt know
wheat plume
https://zorinos.com/grid/ this look neat for IT stuff
as long as you running Zorin anyway
orchid silo
Windows is king
wheat plume
his thumbnail game is getting stranger and stranger....
vast moss
who and what even?
orchid silo
Aren't we all, @pale sigil?
zenith sonnet
Started up my PC to be greeted by a "Welcome to Windows" screen that wanted me to make a Microsoft account
Was made to look like the Windows Installation
Blacked out the secondary and tertiary display, and was a small blue frame with black borders on the primary display
When I pressed cancel, the desktop popped out in the background
Very weird
chrome estuary
i have a feeling you have a really shitty form of a lockdown virus
zenith sonnet
Haven't done anything where that could have come from 🤔
Other than Windows Updates
orchid silo
@chrome estuary i appreciated your joke
pale sigil
It’s spread 👀
misty pier
yeah windows wants me to link my ms account to the os
never done it for security reasons though
orchid silo
What kind of security reasons? @misty pier
misty pier
mostly concerned that they can log more info now that i have my account linked to the os
orchid silo
Just use a mail you dont use then?
timid chasm
Doesn't that also let you tie your license to your account?
That was likely the main reason I did it. Pure convenience every time I change a piece of hardware
mine used to be but I think they've since been merged with my gmail
orchid silo
Haha, Insider = MS get ALL of the data they want
reef patrol
That screen is "legit" @zenith sonnet
Welcome to my life as an IT repairman as of a year and a half ago? We've had to unplug Ethernet during windows installs to be able to install Win10 with local accounts, instead of being forced to use MS.
And it asks again after a reboot or two now as well quite forcibly.
reef patrol
Honestly I can't wait for the EU to step in again.
It has got to be a severe GDPR violation to expect third party repair companies to get your email and password...to fix a PC.
haughty coyote
ever thought about putting a speaker under each key so you could give feedback at any point in the keypress?
fair gull
@wheat plume be happy ill sadly join the coding community in c# again
wheat plume
Wat
fair gull
i did all this c programming
but i wanna push whats currently possible in the pserver market
so imma dev the existing one aswell
which is c#
wheat plume
Uhh
ashen spindle
yay welcome back to greatness
fair gull
well
more or less
c was dope
but some things i really missed like inheritance
actually
only inheritance
now i have to scratch my head about efcore
and netcore
pale sigil
reef patrol
I've got two of those at 1TB. Highly recommended. Even comes with optional heat shield.
ashen spindle
yeah I cleaned up my room yesterday and saw that laying around and threw it away lmao
ashen spindle
haha ye threw the ssd away and kept the heat shield :p
reef patrol
Ohh.
I kept mine. But I don't use them, since my motherboard has a big shield on top of em.
zenith sonnet
Also, you shouldn't capitalise the e, like NVMe
zenith sonnet
I'm just saying, you can save yourself the trouble on the last letter :p
reef patrol
It's more trouble to release the shift key tbh 😛
fair gull
well yesnt
nvm could aldo be node version manager
or an album by tacocat
or never mind
reef patrol
ashen spindle
nice transparency
reef patrol
I blame Google. 😄
reef patrol
fair gull
the devil is on my pc now
ashen spindle
i thoughy you said you work c# now not java 
fair gull
@ashen spindle áll the same and the c# proj was outdated af
but idk if java is shit
or this java project is shit
ashen spindle
good chance its both
fair gull
like ya
why is the indentation so shit
actually contemplating to just fix the c# one
but takes so much time
could just continue c project then
ashen spindle
idk C# is just so enjoyable to me, I need a very good reason to use something else
fair gull
well i wanted to do c for actual cross platform
plus better optimizations
than the byte code c# produces
actual assembler
way better
plus better control over memory
on the other hand
no classes
no inheritance because of it
and most of the shit is super low level
plus i noticed the java project uses mysql
so ya no dev from me
id rather stay with the c# it uses postgre
ashen spindle
C# 7 and 8 added a lot of potential to do some optimizations for very low level stuff
fair gull
well i initially started to learn c for xqemu development
and then thought it might be fun to port a pserver emu for a game i really love
and well
it is
but i also want to push the current state of the server emu to smth better than it is rn
fair gull
anyone here super quick with php
young flicker
Negative Ghost Rider. Has there been any update on the 3PL issues?
fair gull
@ashen spindle i decided to stay with c#
and just copy some resource from the java project
ashen spindle
fair gull
and then tomorrow its restart heaven cause the game needs a restarts every time the server gets restartet
cause no logout to login screen
actually first
imma write a simple sign up page
and pw reset page
unless someone else wants to do it
can be plain html for all i care but needs to be in php and use postgre to save a bcrypt hashed pw to a table
pale sigil
How does one download facebook videos
empty wren
@pale sigil you can use the universal video downloader extension
pale sigil
noice
empty wren
Nevermind i see what you mean
empty wren
https://fbdown.net/download.php this works so far, though I did come across some videos not downloading either
wheat plume
What?
pale sigil
@wheat plume does your data drain your battery
wheat plume
Huh?
pale sigil
Ive never noticed it before
till i moved to MIUI
Its baddddd
My phone lasts like 3 days idle without it
a day with it idle
pale sigil
last night around 12am
i was at 91%
now im at 81% rn
Without data enabled
Wheras i would be like 20% if enabled
lol
MIUI ys
wheat plume
12 yas
wheat plume
I just installed Xiaomi EU rom
wheat plume
wheat plume
Idk my height damn it
pale sigil
can you opped for betas without installing a new rom
wheat plume
Yes but you do factor reset
pale sigil
then i dont wanna bother
wheat plume
But there will be no global beta
pale sigil
Wiping my phone has become an annoyance
wheat plume
They stopped doing those
empty wren
Is that MIUI on android 10?
wheat plume
I feel this battery estimate isn't accurate
pale sigil
MIUI 11 is on 10
wheat plume
No
Miui 12 can be on 10 and 9
pale sigil
MIUI 12 can be on 11
wheat plume
Must likely but 11 is still in Dev preview
wheat plume
No no you'll get miui 12 assuming your phone will be in the upgrade list
wheat plume
Is that the China or Indian list?
pale sigil
fuck knows
wheat plume
Don't think they have a global list rn
pale sigil
i dont think they specified
wheat plume
My phone was meant to get miui 11 in the first phase of updates
It didn't -.-
Got it after my mom's phone :/
pale sigil
wheat plume
Yeh! May 19th
You may like there is an app drawer in the stock launcher now
But not enabled by default
pale sigil
It's the only reason I use this launcher
wheat plume
What?
wheat plume
One thing notice coming from custom roms
Sound quality is shit on miui with headphones
wheat plume
O.o
I see brave browser
The browser I don't use cause it's made a stupid homophobe
wheat plume
Oof
It's useless on iOS though it's still safari with a different ui
As all browsers on iOS are
You literally can't change the web renderer
pale sigil
hmm? root right or do you do it on a router level.
wheat plume
Android 10 lets you use any DNS you want
near temple
dns66 is nice to use
pale sigil
there we go
wheat plume
near temple
if you can configure your DHCP settings you can specify any dns server you want, most likely
wheat plume
Why do that when Android lets you change it in settings?
near temple
incase you're running an older version or an a device that doesn't support specifying it regardless of network
dns66 is what i've been running for system-wide adblocking on android though, you can specify your own hosts rather than going off of a thirdpartys
wheat plume
Dear discord
PLEASE MAKE THE APP CHANGE THEME BASED ON THE ANDROID THEME SETTINGS
empty wren
just curious is dns66 better than adaway?
pale sigil
give me a sit with lots of ads
wheat plume
Never hear on dns66
misty pier
huh, i use a vpn that blocks ads systemwide on ios
near temple
adaway doesn't look like it works on data connections
near temple
dns66 acts as a proxy & intercepts dns requests blocking, works regardless of app/dhcp settings
wheat plume
empty wren
maybe wireguard may help your battery problem when it gets standarized
pale sigil
What youtube app are you using
near temple
what site are you testing with?
wheat plume
I don't see any battery drain from this Android 10 DNS setting
wheat plume
What youtube app are you using
@pale sigil non root vanced
misty pier
oh yeah
pale sigil
i think mines old
misty pier
windscribe also does ad-blocking as well
misty pier
yeah i only use it when i'm actually browsing a lot
wheat plume
wheat plume
15.05.54> @wheat plume what vanced version are you on
@pale sigil
pale sigil
im on 14
empty wren
oh that gives me an idea Mr. Pleasant ever tried Tasker
wheat plume
The Magisk version is dead ;_; I'm so pissed off
pale sigil
i thought stuff like Tasker was root based
empty wren
not everything
empty wren
ah okay
pale sigil
Ive bought one app my entire life
LOL
Never paid for one on IOS and bought one on Android
empty wren
Magisk Hide may die not Magisk
wheat plume
No no
The YouTube Vanced Magisk module is dead
You have to use SAI to install it now -.-
wheat plume
O.o
empty wren
do you still use it
pale sigil
yus
near temple
which alarm app?
pale sigil
Basically i have to do math or a puzzle to sotp the alarm
@wheat plume cos ^
i didn't buy it
wheat plume
Wat
wheat plume
You do math to stop the alarm??!!
empty wren
Interesting
pale sigil
ye
wheat plume
How difficult are they?