#๐Ÿ”Œโ”‚tech

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dapper ridge
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if the username differs on the server, yes you must specify

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ie, on your local machine you are user1, but your username on the server is user2, you must specify the username

pale sigil
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well yes

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but when you use putty

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it asks you to login as a user

ashen spindle
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dumb question, but you did select SSH as connection type in putty?

pale sigil
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yes

hoary dock
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can you send a screen what putty says when you try to connect?

fair gull
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those people not knowing how to linux

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smh

old marlin
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friend just gifted a mouse to me

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which is too barebones even for @fair gull

fair gull
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so u say

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show

old marlin
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lol

fair gull
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ok ya

old marlin
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I already try to get used to not using a scrollwheel and sidebuttons

wheat plume
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Magic mouse users have not had a scroll wheel for many many years

old marlin
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lol

reef patrol
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We don't talk about Apple here.

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leers at magic mouse and wireless keyboard on shelf

wheat plume
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Xdd

hoary dock
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Apple also has that inverted scrolling direction per default

reef patrol
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shudder

hoary dock
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I am still waiting for my V-Server to be provided

wheat plume
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Custom colored quick toggles

young flicker
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I can't imagine not having a scroll wheel/middle mouse button. I actually wish the scroll wheel side buttons had wider support.

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I would, or at least I would try, if they were actually supported for anything except for side scrolling on websites - which is never necessary now due to everything being designed-for-mobile garbo (in my opinion). I haven't tried in years but I couldn't even get games to recognize them back in the day.

young flicker
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?

old marlin
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scroll wheel sidebuttons are kinda shit to build

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Ryzen 1200 AF is released lol

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50 euros

reef patrol
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I don't remember any app SUPOORTING side scroll. So I've never used it.

old marlin
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excel

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some websites

zenith sonnet
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@old marlin How does it rank vs the Athlon 3000G

old marlin
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dunno

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probably quite well

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considering it is 4 cores and SMT

zenith sonnet
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If it's not at least moderately faster on the CPU side, there would be no point

old marlin
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not just 2 cores and SMT

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well

zenith sonnet
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Well, yeah
Twice the cores is a good start

old marlin
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how much is the athlon?

zenith sonnet
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50โ‚ฌ

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But considering you need at least any kind of GPU with the 1200, it makes for a more expensive build anyway

latent mural
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I liked the functionality of side scroll, but never found a mouse it was reliably functional on. Always too sensitive, registering side clicks as middle clicks & vise-versa. Makes the scroll wheel feel loose.

ashen spindle
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I liked the feature on my g500 and didn't have any accidental clicks, did miss it for a while when I switched mice

wheat plume
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I Tawt I Taw a Purdy Desktop

reef patrol
wheat plume
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:')

hoary dock
wheat plume
hoary dock
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Mine is my "super professional" Proxmox host

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the silver laptop is the proxmox host

wheat plume
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idk what proxmox is

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but neat

hoary dock
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"Proxmox Virtual Environment is an open-source server virtualization environment"

wheat plume
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when me and my friends setup a server on a raspberry pi we plugged the pi into the wall socket behind a server PC and its theleast obvious thing ever, you woudnt know it was there and also the fan from the server PC kept it cool too

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"Proxmox Virtual Environment is an open-source server virtualization environment"
@hoary dock oohhh

ashen spindle
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I really thought when microsoft bought minecraft, them using it as a demo for their XR glasses was the last big thing I'd hear about it, definitely didn't expect it to see on channels like Digital foundry or GamersNexus this year lmao

reef patrol
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It's sad those Minecraft sandbox (literal ones) never really caught on.

urban lynx
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did you mean minecraft or the xr glasses? ๐Ÿค”

reef patrol
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Both.

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hololens?

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Mnnope. That wasn't it.-

old marlin
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it is easy

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high end office

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and non fps high end gaming

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anything that someone might get with the intention of FPS will hate those wheels

pale sigil
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@hoary dock is that an hp laptop

fair gull
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an*

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or a

hoary dock
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a

fair gull
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actually confused rn

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i hate the whole a an thing with acronyms

hoary dock
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@pale sigil yes

pale sigil
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Instantly recognised it, which cpu?

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Nvm

fair gull
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intel atom

pale sigil
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In the pic

fair gull
hoary dock
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i5-8250u

pale sigil
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Well anyway I have the same

hoary dock
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mine has 16gigs of ram

pale sigil
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Battery is drying already on mine

fair gull
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wait

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wait

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wait

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how the crap did u determin ur battery is drying

pale sigil
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It lasts half the time it used to

fair gull
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i am almost sure the battery is as wet as it was when u bought it

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unless its leaking for some reason

hoary dock
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well we could swap batteries

pale sigil
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Fuck knows because itโ€™s pretty bad atm

hoary dock
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it is plugged in all the time now

pale sigil
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Remove your battery

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If youโ€™re plugging it in all the time as a host

fair gull
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its prob running 24/7

pale sigil
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Mine? No

fair gull
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his

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hers

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theirs

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helimacompter

hoary dock
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no it is not

fair gull
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thats some weird proxmox host

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speaking of

hoary dock
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it is running since yesterday

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so it cant run 24/7

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๐Ÿ˜

pale sigil
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Touchรฉ

fair gull
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i want to punch u really bad but well played sir/madam

hoary dock
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we still have another server that is running 24/7 in the cellar

reef patrol
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Corsair should feel lucky I don't want to review their HS70 Pro headphones.

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Uses Micro-B cable, not super battery life, if you charge them while wearing them, it creates audio noise. ๐Ÿ˜„

reef patrol
wheat plume
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yes...... very much yes

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but I actually did well in that module

solar hinge
young flicker
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I expected it to have an optical sensor too, now that would be next level.

wheat plume
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I miss that episode

urban lynx
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... and my friends call me weird for putting my movements to the middle of the keyboard...

thick elk
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Looks interesting enough but probably like those dedicated gaming keepads at some point you will just get bored and stop bother to configure a profile.
Or in my case get a mechanical keyboard and don't want to go back to rubber domes / don't want to buy another separate device again.

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It does make me interested in trying my old belkin n52te again regardless

reef patrol
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This - This is not what you want to see when a former colleague says "So this is what I come back to after vacation"

ashen spindle
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uhhh am I blind?

reef patrol
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First clue. Look at the AIO.

ashen spindle
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uhhhh second clue?

reef patrol
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There's only one fan on a two fan AIO radiator (it's going to boil - especially since that's a 9900K)

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Second - The fan is the wrong way around.

ashen spindle
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ohhhh

reef patrol
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This - This was a shop built PC from a colleague who obviously should go back to IT basics school ๐Ÿ˜„

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Verdict:

You don't know how AIOs work.
You don't know how fan orientation works.
You're boiling both the 9900K and the 2080TI in this case - Should have insisted on a larger case.

I feel so bad for the customer. It's getting hot in Denmark.

ashen spindle
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yeah that isnt what I'd expect as customer

hoary dock
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@reef patrol just add this

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70w fan

reef patrol
hoary dock
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my brother bought one of those and you can put a trash bag on one end and crank it up

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the trash bag fills up and then you can put 5kg on it

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and it still doesnt deflate

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with that thing it doesnt boil

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or we'll just blame that pc as the sole reason for global warming

ashen spindle
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only if that pc uses comet lake 10cores

hoary dock
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8 core

ashen spindle
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the desktop variant will have 10

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300Watt for PL2 turbo

wheat plume
wheat plume
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I wish Vivaldi worked with ICE ;-;

hoary dock
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@wheat plume ICE as in German "high-speed" train?

wheat plume
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wait wait

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it does work with ICE :OO

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omfh YES

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ice has never caused a website to break on me

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ever

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ice is flawless <3

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GG Peppermint team :D

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vivaldi started getting locked out of a ton of websites when the web decided that only chrome and firefox were the only browsers that exist
@prisma crag yeh ;-; I remember that

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did it

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and timer

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Bing is default search engine -.-

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....

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wtf

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they are all OMFH WE CARE ABOUT PRIVACY

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and BING is default????!!!

reef patrol
wheat plume
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Duckduckgo ftw

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-.- its got the best feature ever

ashen spindle
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wait duckduckgo has google image search? thats insane!

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oh wait it actually has that now? hey nice

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wait nvm it still doesnt

wheat plume
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I love the ! search feature

ashen spindle
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I meant the reverse-image search function, think only google ahs that?

wheat plume
crimson wigeon
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It only appears to check for /usr/bin/vivaldi-stable so perhaps make that a symlink to your actual vivaldi binary or something

wheat plume
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I have that directory though

crimson wigeon
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

wheat plume
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;-;

hoary dock
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did u try turning it off an on again

wheat plume
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ice or my computer?

hoary dock
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both

wheat plume
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ice yes, vivaldi yes, computer no

hoary dock
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siging off and on?

wheat plume
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Nope

hoary dock
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tr<y?

crimson wigeon
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Although you might be using an outdated version that's checking for /usr/bin/vivaldi blobhyperthinkfast

wheat plume
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Ok I rebooted
Lemme check now

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Still wont let me choose it

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ice was last updated in the AUR on 20 feb, has Vivaldi changed its executable path since then?

hoary dock
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maybe u need to enable sth

crimson wigeon
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Yeah that AUR Ice is outdated

wheat plume
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the last update in github was 3 months ago

hoary dock
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create link for /usr/bin/vivaldi

crimson wigeon
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Yes but those changes haven't been packaged up into a release yet ๐Ÿ˜‰

hoary dock
crimson wigeon
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Better step up to the -git package!

wheat plume
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probably

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-.-

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the git version works

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:') FFS ok then

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oo this has Brave support too nice

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nvm it doesnt work

hoary dock
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did u try turning it off and on again?

wheat plume
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XD

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yes...

hoary dock
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with the new version?

wheat plume
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yup

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it says its made the SSB but its not in the menu

hoary dock
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did u try reinstalling it?

wheat plume
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ice?

hoary dock
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ye

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or both

wheat plume
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I removed the one I had and installed the git version

hoary dock
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did u try reinstalling vivaldi

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or try creating the vivaldi-link

wheat plume
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it doesnt even work if I make one with chrome now

hoary dock
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if it works then you know where the error is

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did u try running it as root ๐Ÿ™ƒ

wheat plume
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yup

hoary dock
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it actually does create the link

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if [ -f /usr/bin/vivaldi-stable ] && [ ! -f /usr/bin/vivaldi ]; then
        ln -s /usr/bin/vivaldi-stable /usr/bin/vivaldi
fi```
wheat plume
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oohh

hoary dock
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at least it says that in AUR

wheat plume
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wait....

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I ran the command in that loop

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and now it finds vivaldi -.-

hoary dock
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Look at the 2nd comment

wheat plume
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hmmmmmmm

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oh hold up

fair gull
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so

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linux is good ya?

wheat plume
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yup

hoary dock
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I am thinking about testing Manjaro for gaming

wheat plume
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now it worked!

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had to run the ln command again after reinstalling ice

hoary dock
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well i didnt know what ice was until i googled it

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like 8mins ago

wheat plume
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its not very well known

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infact, idk how to install it on any other ubuntu based distro as its not in the repos

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other than PeppermintOS of course cause they made it

hoary dock
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what distro u usin'

wheat plume
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Manjaro

hoary dock
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i suppose its Arch based

wheat plume
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Yup

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ice is in the AUR

hoary dock
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Did you try gaming on it?

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Like other than minecraft

wheat plume
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yeah of course

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my gpu is shit so dont count on me for performance tests

hoary dock
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What make is ur gpu

wheat plume
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nvidia

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using 440 drivers

fair gull
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how about

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a bit more specific than just the manufacturer

wheat plume
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...

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k

fair gull
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last i checked they had more than 3 gpus

hoary dock
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doesnt matter in linux

wheat plume
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nvidia gtx860M with 440 drivers

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happy? :')

fair gull
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doesnt matter in linux

hoary dock
fair gull
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ya tell that to smth trying to use a graphics lib

wheat plume
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not really...majaro installs the drivers for you

hoary dock
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nvidia only has one driver for linux

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for every card

fair gull
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gpu being shite is not driver related tho

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in most instances

wheat plume
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makes sense, nvidia font give a crap

fair gull
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its just the gpu being shite

hoary dock
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so it is only a question of opensource (amd) vs proprietary (nvidia) drivers

fair gull
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i remember this happening

hoary dock
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yes

fair gull
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so how is the gpu model irrelevant

hoary dock
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I wanted to know if she got gaming under nvidia working

fair gull
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she

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but ok

wheat plume
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PopOS and Manjaro are the only distros I know that installed drivers for Nvidia atomatically on install

hoary dock
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because like I said her 840m

wheat plume
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I can play all the games I own no bother

hoary dock
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uses the same driver as my 1080

fair gull
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860

hoary dock
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860

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whatever

wheat plume
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xd

fair gull
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i mean gaming under linux works

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just fairly poorly

wheat plume
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as long as you have a game

fair gull
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and it prob will stay that way for years to come

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ya depends on the game

hoary dock
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you can play every steam game

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With Proton

wheat plume
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nah...

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thats dodgy af

hoary dock
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you can theoretically play every steam game

fair gull
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and you cant

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no

wheat plume
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I got modern warfare 2 working on proton

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the old one

fair gull
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i can think of one that only works by modding the game no matter what

wheat plume
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but it didnt launch single player until I replaced the exe file with a cracked one

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strange that mp worked no issues

hoary dock
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the funny part is

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that some games run better on linux using an emulator

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than on windows itself

wheat plume
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Doom 2017 xd

fair gull
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give me one example

wheat plume
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doom 2017

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using Vulkan

fair gull
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on a gtx1070 it runs at like 160fps in windowed maxed settings

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windows runs it at the same fullscreen

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so id say the same

wheat plume
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why windowed on linux?

fair gull
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idk only video i really found non oc card

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and makes sense that both run it the same

wheat plume
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I thought running a game windowed was bad

fair gull
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both can use vulkan

wheat plume
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makes it lose frames

fair gull
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yes

wheat plume
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ahh

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does it matter if the card is OC? cause its the same card they are comparing each version of the game on

fair gull
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if i compare an OC card to non OC the oc card will perf better

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cause it can crunch more numbers

hoary dock
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windowed has more input delay afaik

fair gull
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windowed also tends to lose frames every now and then

loud hemlock
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Doesn't gpuboost make all cards (assuming same cooling) have the same performance basically tho

hoary dock
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mentioning cooling

fair gull
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does gpu boost work on linux?

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safe to say just comparing non oc cards is the safest way

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but anyway games using opengl/vulkan will prob run the same perf wise on linux/windows

wheat plume
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there is a thing called gamemode but idk how to use it

loud hemlock
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Isn't that the tool that feral made or whatever

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That basically just changes the cpu governor

wheat plume
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yeah

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oh rlly?

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oh

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i can change cpu governor with the cpufreq extension

loud hemlock
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The Readme tells you what it does exactly

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You're right apparently. There's gpu boost stuff also

wheat plume
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overclocking wow

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it seems all the options must be configured in a conf file

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there is no gui?

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LEL the gamemode gnome extension comes preinstalled on Manjaro

hoary dock
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there is no gui

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you are using linux

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wtf

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are u expecting

wheat plume
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IKR xd

hoary dock
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gnome manjaro

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?

wheat plume
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yup

hoary dock
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@timber oxide

wheat plume
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O.o ?

hoary dock
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just wait for him to answer

wheat plume
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meanwhile I need to find out what workshop items my friend is subscribed to so I can download them too

timber oxide
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?

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@hoary dock <.<

hoary dock
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gnome manjaro
@hoary dock

timber oxide
wheat plume
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-.-

timber oxide
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i don't like gnome

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better said

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i hate it

wheat plume
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I do, once I have some extensions and a nice theme in place

timber oxide
wheat plume
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default theme = ๐Ÿคฎ

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especially the folder icons.... the app icons are pretty nice tbh

timber oxide
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just use kde

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and your life is easier

wheat plume
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I do

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I go between plasma and gnome

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i prefer the integration of gnome a lot better, email, google drive, the gnome suite of apps are simple and pretty looking

timber oxide
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f

wheat plume
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and the overview is the best part of gnome, cant get anything like it on other desktops

timber oxide
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@hoary dock i think we can't help that guy kekW

hoary dock
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Pretty looking apps on Linux

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Where did this conversation go

timber oxide
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am ingame gtg

hoary dock
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Hf

wheat plume
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in terms of UI , you can change the theme at any tim

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@timber oxide want to see my plasma rice?

hoary dock
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It's too bright

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Everything needs to be dark themed

wheat plume
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dark theme hurts my eyes after a few hours

hoary dock
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But file managers look nearly the same

wheat plume
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2 hours*

hoary dock
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Too much white burns my eyes out of my eye sockets

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I think eye sockets in the right term

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But it makes sense kinda bcaBoing

wheat plume
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I do miss the abilty to remove titlebars and put the menu bar into the panel

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;-;

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but for apps with the headerbar I dont mind

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they dont have menu bars and seperate titlebars anyway

ashen spindle
reef patrol
ashen spindle
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at like 7 minutes in

hoary dock
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And that's why I never uninstalled my amd Cpu

young flicker
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@wheat plume That's very sleek, I like it a lot. And that's coming from someone who hates the flat design trend.

wheat plume
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@wheat plume That's very sleek, I like it a lot. And that's coming from someone who hates the flat design trend.
@young flicker :DD

young flicker
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I'm curious to know how it's working for you, especially for gaming. I'm ditching Windows 10 as soon as it's reasonably viable to.

ashen spindle
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lul

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ask again in 10 years then

young flicker
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I mean obviously it's Linux.

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So I don't expect anywhere near the same level of support or performance. I just want it to be usable.

wheat plume
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@young flicker if you want to only play games with native linux support, gaming is fantastic on Linux
If you want to use Wine/ Lutris/ Proton to play windows games, then you need to b willing to tinker with behind the scenes stuff to fix issues or sometimes accept you will run into a game that simply wont work

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that is all I got to say on the matter tbh

ashen spindle
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I just don't get the appeal at all, the time it takes to figure out how to make it run and all that is the same if not more it would take you to just block everything related to win10 telemetry via ip blocking and whatnot and you have much better game support

young flicker
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For some people that level of control is the appeal.

wheat plume
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If you remove too much telemetry you cant get updates anymore

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I know from personal experience :/

young flicker
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Plus even if you can do that now it telegraphs the direction Microsoft is going and I really, really don't like it.

hoary dock
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But some games are not going to work on Linux

ashen spindle
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you literally just make it send the data into nothing, that doesnt block downloads for updates

hoary dock
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#riotGames

wheat plume
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But some games are not going to work on Linux
@hoary dock yeah, I said that

hoary dock
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But for reasons that make me want to uninstall the game even under windows

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Valorant has an anti cheat that operates even if you don't play the game

young flicker
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@wheat plume So it's about the same as other distros then?

wheat plume
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Valorant is basically malware

hoary dock
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And on Kernel level or some high level if I remember it right

young flicker
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Ring 0, yeah.

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It's Chinese spyware.

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Like Windows 10 is American spyware.

hoary dock
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But the game is fun

wheat plume
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@young flicker there are definetly better distros for performance, but there are a lot of variables

hoary dock
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I heard Manjaro architect is great for performance

wheat plume
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Like Windows 10 is American spyware.
@young flicker spyware, nagware, bloatware, stuffs games you dont want into your start menu

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I heard Manjaro architect is great for performance
@hoary dock if you installing the arcitect version you may as well do a full arch install

hoary dock
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Or I go Gentoo

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And compile everything for myself

young flicker
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@wheat plume Games like Minesweeper which displays ads unless you pay for a subscription that doesn't work without an always-on connection...

ashen spindle
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basically in windows you uninstall stuff after you first boot up, in linux you install stuff or you have nothing, same thing just from the other side

wheat plume
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@wheat plume Games like Minesweeper which displays ads unless you pay for a subscription that doesn't work without an always-on connection...
@young flicker LEL and getting candy crush too

hoary dock
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@ashen spindle I just Domain join my PC and the stuff gets removed on its own

wheat plume
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basically in windows you uninstall stuff after you first boot up, in linux you install stuff or you have nothing, same thing just from the other side
@ashen spindle wat?

ashen spindle
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was more comparing the simple "install os and start pc" but sure, that works too

young flicker
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@wheat plume Also, unrelated to the spyware/adware/etc. but wholly related to their hand-holding lowest common denominator philosophy, a task manager which can't actually force stop a program.

hoary dock
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Windows install is getting more and more retarded

wheat plume
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Linux lets you install only what you want so you get the most performance out of it

hoary dock
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Set security questions

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No I really don't want a ms account

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Leave me alone I don't want to give you all my data

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But you will take it anyway

wheat plume
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I need to use myt account, its the only way I can activate windows :/ -.-

young flicker
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It's the same reason you need an account to use the GeForce Experience these days - data collection.

hoary dock
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@wheat plume just buy a 7โ‚ฌ win7prof key

young flicker
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I remember when the ethos of internet culture was the exact OPPOSITE of these things.

ashen spindle
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then just dont activate it and reset timer every so often lel

hoary dock
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/rearm

young flicker
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If I do use Windows at all I'll just obtain either the LTSB or the LTSC.

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I'd legitimately buy them if I could but I can't, soooo.

wheat plume
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idc much if I logged into windows, I only have college shit on there

hoary dock
#

I use it for gaming and ms office

#

The rest I could do on any Linux

wheat plume
#

I cant use it for gaming, my computer specs are shit

young flicker
#

It's the principle for me. I've got nothing to hide, and what I would want to hide I could hide easily, but I hate the precedent being set.

hoary dock
#

Just replace Ur gpu

wheat plume
#

also last time I had windows on this computer, the screen tearing was horrendous

#

no matter what game

#

or video

#

way too much tearing

#

I tried all the fixes I could find online and it didnt do shit

hoary dock
#

Did u try installing the video card driver meguface

#

Kappa

wheat plume
#

ofc

#

I had the nvidia control panel too

#

tried to enable vysnc system wide

#

but no work

hoary dock
#

I remember all the good videos

#

Get more fps in every game!!! 100% works

#

And all they did was just

#

Right click "execute with Nvidia high performance processor"

wheat plume
#

:')

hoary dock
#

Somehow never worked on my desktop without igpu at the time

#

I wonder why

wheat plume
#

XD

hoary dock
#

That was when amd CPUs where literal dogshit

#

I had a fx6300 six core

#

And when I started screen sharing in Skype

#

Cpu 100% and the sound was lagging

wheat plume
#

omfh

young flicker
#

Conroe really did a number on AMD.

hoary dock
#

An Intel i3-2100 would have done better

ashen spindle
#

fx was so impressive, now intel wants to copy it with comet late lul

young flicker
#

Hehehehe.

wheat plume
#

:')

young flicker
#

NETBURST all over again boys.

ashen spindle
#

300watt+ stock boost hell yeah

hoary dock
#

Imagine getting kicked out of one of the most profitable areas in CPUs

#

Imagine cloudflare doing this by buying amd servers

#

But AMDs graphic cards are still space heaters

ashen spindle
#

next big super computer contracts are also taken by amd

hoary dock
#

I had one for three days

#

And sent it back

#

Switched back to my gtx970

#

And bought a 1080

ashen spindle
#

well, starting next gen that should be better

hoary dock
#

Driver issues all of the place

#

Over *

young flicker
#

If they fix their driver issues and the leaks are semi-accurate Big Navi should be competetive.

#

Not king, but probably the best price-to-performance ratio.

hoary dock
#

Navi??? HEY LISTEN!

young flicker
#

But the drivers have been rough since ATi so I'm not holding my breath.

ashen spindle
#

big navi should be king till ampere, but yeah, drivers are killing them

hoary dock
#

But they are open source

#

So that's a plus

young flicker
#

It looks like Ampere and Big Navi will launch around the same time.

ashen spindle
#

nah

#

ampere is later

hoary dock
#

That reminds me of a pun

young flicker
#

How much later, and how soon do you expect Big Navi?

ashen spindle
#

big navi in summer, q4 for ampere

hoary dock
#

What do you think about Switzerland?

#

Well their flag is a huge plus

ashen spindle
#

I think they should join germany as they rightfully belong to us

#

wait what

hoary dock
ashen spindle
#

: )

young flicker
#

If Big Navi is going to be out by August they need to make some announcements soon. The latest rumor I heard for Ampere was an August announcement and a September launch but we know how unreliable those types of rumors are. I think it would have been out sooner if not for Corona.

hoary dock
#

Well good thing I am not from Germany, @ashen spindle, but from Bavaria morgsip

ashen spindle
#

navi had a high chance to be announced at E3 or computex, now I assume they announce on 7/7 bc marketing 7nm

#

and ampere at gamescom, or around that time since that is now cancelled too

#

ah yes,that mystic place is close but definitely not german :^)

hoary dock
#

Do you say Semmel or Brรถtchen?

ashen spindle
#

I had to google what semmel is

hoary dock
#

@timber oxide

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Alarm!!!!

ashen spindle
#

because I only heard it as "Semmel-brรถtchen" so I assumed it was some special variant

hoary dock
#

No. Some weirdos are calling Semmeln "Brรถtchen"

timber oxide
#

Semmel is the right way

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i think north and east germany call it

#

"Brรถtchen"

young flicker
#

Anybody have any experience with EVGA's B-Stock? Their products have always been reliable but I've never bought a refurb from them.

ashen spindle
#

Does it say why itโ€™s b stock or is it luck of draw?

young flicker
#

It gives a few reasons why an item might be B-Stock but for the individual purchase it's luck of the draw. It does say that they're tested for performance and reliability but of course it would say something like that. They come with a 1 year warranty and are about 1/4 the price so that's what has me tempted.

ashen spindle
#

What product are you looking at exactly?

young flicker
#

A 2080 Ti, so not a small discount lol.

ashen spindle
#

does sound worth yeah

#

if it does have issues you can still return in like a normal one

young flicker
#

Do they still charge the 15% restocking fee for defects?

ashen spindle
#

no clue

young flicker
#

Also I'm just going to slap a waterblock on it which will require a new I/O shield anyway so I'm not worried about scratches or anything like that.

#

I'll have to ask them.

#

Another big thing that makes it seem worth it is that when the new generation comes out I'll most likely just be selling it anyway, and at that point it's the same as an used card so the return should theoretically be higher percentage wise. Not that I'm expecting much of a return.

#

Ope, it doesn't come with the HDMI-to-DVI cable, totally not worth it.

young flicker
#

Yeah, that was another thing I had considered in B-Stock's favor since I'm pretty sure they don't qualify for it anyway.

young flicker
#

I just pulled the trigger on that. Got an XC Ultra for $874 pre-tax, and $955 out the door with the 2 slot bracket. Pretty good deal.

#

Around $400 off all things taken into account.

young flicker
#

Really? Audio was actually the next thing on my list, and my information is so out of date in that regard that sound cards were still the way to go. I've heard of Schiit but like I said, I'm lost as far as DAC and amps go.

#

It seems like they aren't really made for surround.

latent mural
#

onboard audio likely as good as an external card these days. If the SNR >= 110dB, it's probably decent enough you'll never be able to perceive the difference outside of an expensive studio environment.

#

If you wants surround, probably best to HDMI out to receiver or pre/pro

#

though external amps/etc. do tend to have knobs to turn, like volume, or mic returns for self-monitoring which have practical value beyond audio quality

young flicker
#

Any suggestions? Something I've noticed as well is that in the price range I've been looking at microphones don't seem to be a consideration at all. Is that for a reason?

latent mural
#

I'd have to dig into it to say. It doesn't take much to build a DAC+amp for headphones, where driving even very high impedance loads would only require a watt or two, so there thousands of constantly changing options

#

Microphone you might not need, headsets and built-in webcam ones may work depending on your purpose.

hoary dock
#

I had an issue with my onboard audio and my headphones. At certain points in some songs it just goes "laggy" and distorted.
bought an DAC and the issue was gone

wheat plume
hoary dock
#

because its ipv6?

ashen spindle
#

^

wheat plume
#

-.- oh right yeh

hoary dock
#

I am really looking forward to learn IPv6 ๐Ÿ™ƒ

wheat plume
#

I guess I need to disconnect and reconnect for it to apply

#

yeh xd that worked

crimson wigeon
#

I am really looking forward to my ISP turning on IPv6 x d

hoary dock
#

In Germany you can get dual stacks

#

from some providers

crimson wigeon
#

15+ years ago "oh yeah it's totally ready to go just have to flip a switch" and then ever since "no plans to turn it on suck it"

wheat plume
#

wow

#

I hate ISP;s

hoary dock
#

what isp u got?

#

mine likes 2min disconnects

crimson wigeon
#

Oh well, at least they managed to turn IPv6 on for mobile connections 5 years ago(!)

hoary dock
#

my phone carrier gives you 10. sth IPs

#

and an IPv6

wheat plume
#

he did some research

hoary dock
#

it says so in "Status"

#

@wheat plume what ISP do you have? morgsip

wheat plume
#

3

#

I like 3, they are the only ones to offer unlimited mobile data for 20 a month

hoary dock
#

3 as in Austrian ISP?

wheat plume
#

its in ireland and UK too

hoary dock
#

Well I only know the Austrian one

wheat plume
#

They are also the only ISP in Ireland to sell Xiaomi phones

reef patrol
#

Danish ๐Ÿ˜›

hoary dock
#

My story with ISP is also a good one

wheat plume
#

its where I got my Mix 2S actually....I wish the had the white one tho ;-;

fair gull
#

the fuck is 1.1.1.2 and 1.0.0.2

wheat plume
#

it a malware blocking DNS

#

from cloudflare

fair gull
#

"malware blocking"

wheat plume
#

malware domains cant connect

hoary dock
#

We have a driveway to our house and all the ISPs said you can only have 13k DSL because of the copper cable running to o, if house

#

Now we have 100k

#

With the same cable

wheat plume
#

oo

fair gull
#

so only the known stuff gets blocked

wheat plume
#

wait...whats your average download speed in mb/s ?

fair gull
#

if i write malware rn it wouldnt block it

wheat plume
#

so only the known stuff gets blocked
@fair gull thats how all blockers work tho

hoary dock
#

11MB/s

fair gull
#

@wheat plume uh no

wheat plume
#

11MB/s
@hoary dock ooo decent

fair gull
#

software u install on ur pc can monitor accessed files etc

#

and disassemble it, scan software routines

wheat plume
#

this is a DNS, its cant scan files

fair gull
#

detect commonly used code

hoary dock
#

vodafone is offering 1000k over coax

fair gull
#

thats why i dont get dns to block stuff

reef patrol
#

Coax

wheat plume
#

detect commonly used code
@fair gull yeah.. commontly used, therefor ITS KNOWN MALWARE

reef patrol
#

Oldschool ๐Ÿ˜„

fair gull
#

its sntg easily circumvented

wheat plume
#

yout point in invalid xd

fair gull
#

even by known malware

wheat plume
#

if that software only works on code they know is used then its useless for stuff that doesnt use that code

#

cause they dont know it

fair gull
#

and ud still know what files it accesses, what regkeys it uses

hoary dock
#

It blocks malware websites if it is already on your pc it doesn't do anything

fair gull
#

what it tries to do

#

etc

#

easy malware filter: use brain

wheat plume
#

It blocks malware websites if it is already on your pc it doesn't do anything
@hoary dock even software that scans computer files can be tricked if the software doesnt have that malcious code in its datababase

hoary dock
#

Just use brain.exe

fair gull
#

^

wheat plume
#

most people dont

fair gull
#

i thought this is ur pc

wheat plume
#

my uncle sent me a whatsapp messages he forwarded from somewhere telling me that corona can be stopped using onions

#

-.-

#

and my uncle was the guy who taught me applied math

hoary dock
#

My ssh password is 123 and port 22 is exposed to the internet

#

Am i doing this right?

wheat plume
#

LEL

fair gull
#

my root password is test

#

and i also expose 22 to the net

hoary dock
#

I moved 22 to 53

fair gull
#

thats the server

wheat plume
#

my root password is thereisnopassword

fair gull
#

u see the difference is i just gave u the keys to my actual root

#

ip, port and pw checkout

wheat plume
#

X to doubt

fair gull
#

no literally

hoary dock
#

Root login disabled

wheat plume
#

itll probably send us malware if we connect

#

xd

hoary dock
fair gull
#

root login is enabled

hoary dock
#

Pub key only?

fair gull
#

yes

#

no key = instant ban

#

love fail2ban

wheat plume
#

discord scrolling gets very screen teary after a while

#

I scroll up and down and it looks glitchy

fair gull
#

u mean chromiums

#

scrolling

wheat plume
#

๐Ÿค” do I ?

fair gull
#

discord uses chromium in the app

#

and if u use it in a browser its that browser

#

discord doesnt render serverside

halcyon moss
#

is using discord in firefox

pale sigil
#

Im so glad i forced myself to use vscode...

wheat plume
#

o?

ashen spindle
#

deep? you mean discord?

wheat plume
#

yeah

ashen spindle
#

same with VS

hoary dock
#

wait @wheat plume is that a white-themed discord

wheat plume
#

...

#

maybe

hoary dock
reef patrol
#

๐Ÿ˜„

wheat plume
#

O.o

#

better

#

nickname

#

applied

pale sigil
wheat plume
#

O.o wat

fair gull
#

@pale sigil pls dont thats so 2001

pale sigil
#

i know haha

#

im just bored

#

waiting on feedback

fair gull
#

whatever that is

pale sigil
#

from the client

fair gull
#

wait u sending ur client code that has ur online nickname in it

pale sigil
#

@fair gull The final code wont have it, the client is my friend but i am doing it for his company

#

If that makes sense

reef patrol
#

If you're reading this, I am locked in the basement of the NSA. Send help.

pale sigil
#

Basically if he chooses to have my real name in my code or not is up to him

harsh terrace
#

Can Windows 10 mount an iso or do I have to download this demon or whateveritis

latent mural
#

w10 can mount iso files

pale sigil
#

So did W8

urban lynx
#

uses a pair of bluetooth headphones

#

"I dont have line noise" GWvictoriaMeguFace

#

aptx?

#

oh, you talking phones

#

sorry, i kinda dont have much interest placed in phone stuff asteynLurk

#

idk, havent been using windows 10 so far. and digging through the settings is kinda awkward.

wheat plume
#

Android 11 will grey out codecs in the developer settings that wotn work on your headphones

urban lynx
#

it was a bit difficult to set up in a way that teamspeak would not make every other application muted while i used the bluetooth headphones

#

not sure if the fault there was with teamspeak or with windows tbh XD

#

no it was not simple. it was not the tick for muting other stuff while communication stuff is detected :P

#

this "exclusive mode" stuff

#

the issue was that my headphones were detected as TWO devices

#

no, not as "left" and "right"

#

one was "handsfree communication device"
and the other was just "headphones [device serial number?]"

#

and for some reason, everything works fine, except teamspeak. because teamspeak somehow only sees this one, and is not doing well with that.

#

so i have one of these two disabled now, but it also didnt just work, i had to fiddle around with turning it on and off again

#

also seriously dont know why one of these two made every other sound muted tbh.

#

tbf, windows isnt really known for smoothness atm

#

i mean, there is a reason why i didnt bother with win10 until like last month

#

i like playing games

#

am not necessarily that much into the inner workings of everything

#

i just hate how much it tends to take to learn a new OS, even if it is windows -> windows

#

and honestly? the amount microsoft already did hiccups for a bunch of stuff because they overwork like every stupid thing all the time?
kinda made me wary/vary/weary (what's the word???)

ashen spindle
#

and then there is Wario

urban lynx
#

then i meant wary

#

๐Ÿ˜… ty

#

bluetooth in the car... would be a dream GWvictoriaMeguFace

#

i dont tend to wear headphones outside tbh

#

mostly because i step outside to get into my car XD

wheat plume
#

bluetooth in the car... would be a dream :GWvictoriaMeguFace:
@urban lynx +++ yes it would

When I drive and want to listen to music I need to plug my phone in with the cable and just let my phone lay in the cup holder

#

there is a feature that makes my life better in this ROM , I can hold down the volume buttons to skip songs if I want to

urban lynx
#

if i want to listen to music from my phone, i put my phone in the area under my handbrake and play from the phone speaker GWvictoriaMeguFace

wheat plume
#

wait..you straight up dont have an audio input?

urban lynx
#

"what is an audio input?" asteynSir GWvictoriaMeguFace

wheat plume
#

oh wow

urban lynx
#

my car accepts FM via the antenna that is kind of ... well ... the rubber is chipping off the antenna, and the reception is slowly getting worse, i swear.

wheat plume
#

I dont have a local music collection stored on my phone

#

and since i installed this rom I have that ability to skip songs with the volume buttons

urban lynx
#

in my previous car, i had a beautiful radio retrofitted, DIN2. and it even supported changing stuff via the radio buttons what was going on my phone.

#

this car? cant even retrofit, due to how the head unit is integrated in the entire car's board system...

#

but hey, it has a theoretical support for a multi CD drive asteynSir

#

doesnt even do repeat of a single song though.

#

how do i remove a head unit that is technically not there? GWvictoriaMeguFace

#

yeah, not gonna that.
and dont have the money to let a garage to it for me

#

i mean, tbh, i did go to a place to get an estimate for work needed for getting an overhauled soundsystem. but let's say, it didnt stay 3 figures due to stupid reasons.
i kinda hate this car, and only took it because i needed something that drives.
and that's near 2 years now. and i think it might be falling apart more and more.

#

meh

#

i also didnt like my previous car, but i still kinda miss it

#

cause it also actually was my first car

#

(and had actually more space despite less power)

#

in return i now have a convertible.

#

and i learned i hate driving a convertible. especially with open roof.

#

and i only like glass roofs if i can close it off with something that blocks off light if necessary.
entirely.

fair gull
#

its finally time

#

i decided to try and install my pc fresh

urban lynx
#

i hate them.

#

constant light flickering of sun and shadow switching while driving is so terrible

#

also the heat of the sun shining directly on your body, urgh.

#

the more summer progresses, the more i'm inclined to close the roof and just switch on the AC

wheat plume
crimson wigeon
#

Not really

wheat plume
#

I cant find a good descriptio of this package. other than it makes it easy to use packagekit

crimson wigeon
#

Also PackageKit, nifty thing that try doing something like pkcon install <whatever> for distro agnostic package management

wheat plume
#

oo

#

I dont have that command

crimson wigeon
#

Oh guess it's not preinstalled on your distro

wheat plume
#

perhaps, or it doesnt get installed if you update to a new version

fair gull
#

almost done copying my user folder

#

took like 20mins to backup the entire m.2 ssd

reef patrol
fair gull
#

ones my user folder is copied

#

its of to reinstalling windows

#

for the first time since i got my first pc

loud hemlock
#

I reinstall windows every year or so

#

Because I always have so much shit on it

fair gull
#

this is my first reinstall in almost 8years

#

so ever since i required a pc for school cause programming

reef patrol
loud hemlock
#

Holy shit

#

How did you manage to keep windows usable for that long

fair gull
#

well

#

it wasnt useable for like a year

#

but then a win10 upgrade fixed all that

#

the only issue i have now is it automatically switches window focus

loud hemlock
#

So basically a soft reinstall

fair gull
#

cant fix it

#

no

#

normal upgrade

#

from 1809 to 1903

loud hemlock
#

Those big jumps are usually when I reformat

fair gull
#

ive dragged since since winxp lol

loud hemlock
#

With things like ninite it's actually pretty fast to get everything setup again

#

Oof

fair gull
#

but rn its just

#

my pc keeps freezing up

#

and its not any OC

#

switches windows no matter if im typing or fapping

loud hemlock
#

How many mbs did that os go through

fair gull
#

and just general a bit laggy

#

this mb has seen

#

4 mbs

#

no 5

#

2 intel pentium 4 ones

#

an amd fx-4100

#

i7-4790k

#

and my current i7-9700k

loud hemlock
#

I am genuinely impressed at how you managed to switch from amd to Intel that easily without chipset driver issues and whatnot

fair gull
#

who said there were no chipset driver issues

loud hemlock
#

I assume ddu is your best friend when upgrading gpus lol

fair gull
#

lol

loud hemlock
#

Lmao

fair gull
#

u dont wanna know how much time i spend when switching systems

#

removing old drivers

#

fixing registry shit manually

loud hemlock
#

Why put yourself through that tho

#

You do you :p

fair gull
#

well

reef patrol
#

He's a masochist.

fair gull
#

im insanely lazy in terms of getting used to change

#

like

#

its setup in a way i feel comfortable

#

and i know that when i set this up from 0 i will have to readjust

#

and reconfigure so many things

#

im glad mozilla has profiles i can copy

#

so at least my browser will work the exact same

old marlin
#

lol

fair gull
#

and thunderbird

old marlin
#

I got used to a lot of reinstalls

#

whihc you should do on windows

loud hemlock
#

I reconfigure some things but if you reformat as often as I do you get faster at re setting up :p

old marlin
#

gets cluttered over time

fair gull
#

welp

loud hemlock
#

I used to try and not install things and keep it cleaner

#

But honestly it's not worth the effort

fair gull
#

ure talking to someone whos using a bag with one of those diagonal straps and the clip on that is semi broken

loud hemlock
#

I just accept that it will become borked at some point and reformat

old marlin
#

?

fair gull
#

so i have to keep holding it otherwise the bag falls down

#

and i am using this bag/backpack since 6 years now

#

tmw u post in the wrong channel

old marlin
#

lol

#

I mean

fair gull
#

i just got used to this bag so much

#

that i cant even buy a new one

old marlin
#

I use my old schoolbag for some stuff

#

and the zipper on it is pretty broken

#

bottom almost ripped

#

etc

fair gull
#

this is my daily driver backpack for work

#

and commute from and to work

old marlin
#

well

#

got a bag with my laptop

#

which is great

fair gull
#

i just cant really get used to having a new bag

#

and readjusting using that new bag

#

so i keep using this one

#

also the reason i keep using my g100s

#

i just cant adjust to anything new

old marlin
#

mmh

#

tough situation

fair gull
#

eh

#

i got used to it

#

like everything

old marlin
#

I mean I'd personally probably try to switch it up a little just so I won't get to set on it

#

jsut so things don't become irreplaceable

#

but forcing yourself probably won't help either

fair gull
#

welp imma go sleep

#

can take a while

old marlin
#

yae

#

good night

fair gull
#

gnight

latent mural
#

1.3 million files... 13.3kb/s.. probably should have zipped those files first! :S

safe patrol
#

@fair gull -- are both sides of the straps on your bag broken?

young flicker
#

@latent mural I'm sure the BoomPro or something along those lines would be fine for gaming, but I'd like to be able to record a little. Not singing or anything super technical, just high quality.

latent mural
#

@prisma crag I love MX-5's. Almost bought a 1990 with 57,000km on it just a couple weeks ago, took it for a drive. Body was mint, but was asking just a hair too much given the interior was not in good shape.

#

@young flicker quiet room?

#

ah man they are fun cars too

young flicker
#

It'll be relatively quiet during everyday use, if I need to I can sound proof when the time comes.

spiral belfry
latent mural
#

@young flicker in that case, my suggestion would be to look at something like the AT2020USB. There's obviously a subculture for these things, because internet, but I am quite partial to condenser mics. That one is a pretty solid unit and pretty versatile too

#

telephone.. like.. dial-up.. dsl?

young flicker
#

Good deal, I'll look into that!

#

I'll start with the difference between that and the +.

latent mural
#

ah that's a bit rough. What island are you on?

#

@young flicker the + I think is the latest version with the headphone output

latent mural
#

ah, greenland

#

I do, myself, live on a sparsely populated large island, Newfoundland

tough stag
#

Is there a way to remapp Cpaslock to ESC permanently?

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Would be super neat for using Linux / VIM

fair gull
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wait for key remapping

halcyon moss
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isnt that a feature quite easily done in linux itself?

fair gull
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yes

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unless u only use vim cause u think its elite

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then u prob dont invest time into linux keymaps

tough stag
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Vim is great because of the change command and the repeatability with the dot command. You can edit code very fast.

hoary dock
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I don't lock my PC

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I just open vim

tough stag
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ever heard of gtfobins ?

fair gull
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i will just say that any good ide/texteditor has equal and better functionality than vim

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also isnt vim one of the most exploitable binaries to break out

halcyon moss
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wat?

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I'm using pycharm with vim bindings. It's great

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configuring vim to be sorta smart is a pain i dont want to go through again

fair gull
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@halcyon moss go to gtfobins. vim literally is one if the most exploitable frequently installed binaries out there

crimson wigeon
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uh

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I just looked and it's literally all just because it has Lua and Python script support

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Oh noes

fair gull
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not really

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a ton is just vim being vim

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but ya imma stay with any good ide/texteditor is by default better than vim cause u cant use it as a lockscreen

tough stag
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vi comes in busybox which is in almost every small linux or embedded device. Good to know vi / vim commands and objects and how to get around.

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... if you have to deal with that stuff on a regular basis.

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Anyway i just asked if capslock (which should die anyway) can be remapped to anything else. like escape or maybe even a function layer.

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QMK style macros and function layers would be so dope

fair gull
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u can literally remap keys with linux

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and when keyremapping comes u can change it

tough stag
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Yes i am waiting for keyremapping.

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In the OS however is not an option.

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My input devices are connected to a USB switch that controlls multiple devices.

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@fair gull do you have an ETA for keyremapping?

ashen spindle
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in beta soon โ„ข

tough stag
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@ashen spindle any way to use beta?

ashen spindle
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hence soon โ„ข

fair gull
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i mean it is in alpha rn

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wouldnt calk it useable rn

tough stag
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The trello info is outdated

fair gull
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yes

wheat plume
ashen spindle
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more like very blurry

wheat plume
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you can chang the blur amount

ashen spindle
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including 0?

wheat plume
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yeh

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and you can turn off blur so its just transparent also

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blur doesnt work on gnome desktop -.-

hoary dock
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@wheat plume are u just trying all desktop environments?

wheat plume
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Installed Deepin into a box

hoary dock
wheat plume
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exactly

hoary dock
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i didnt do the deep in a box joke

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so

wheat plume
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๐Ÿค”

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the wat now?

hoary dock
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deepin a box

wheat plume
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That reminds me of a comment I found on a review video

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its a shitty pickup line :')

reef patrol
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Just spent an hour going through ALL of my various bags and boxes of random screws to sort them out and throw away the rest.

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I want to die.

hoary dock
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screw you

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๐Ÿ™ƒ

reef patrol
hoary dock
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oh that thonk is good

reef patrol
hoary dock
reef patrol
hoary dock
wheat plume
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:')

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wow guys, quit flexing your nitro

reef patrol
hoary dock
wheat plume
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when you press quote instead of edit because its whjere edit used to be -.-

reef patrol
hoary dock
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bought.

hoary dock
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+100FPS

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at least

wheat plume
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\seiofhsrg adorableeeee

hoary dock
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@reef patrol where did u get those

reef patrol
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I got them through a Taiwanese proxy. ๐Ÿ™‚