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lethal wasp
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ah yes, I love watching full movies on youtube

ashen spindle
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sure but not at 240hz with decent specs

lethal wasp
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yes

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they do

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acer made a few

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I have one

ashen spindle
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sorry tino unlike you we actually try to enjoy stuff sometimes

lethal wasp
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LOL

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I prefer a good series

ashen spindle
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really? thought the only sub 1ms monitors were with shit overdrive so far?

lethal wasp
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not enough time for character development in a movie

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nope

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this was like BIS at the time

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besides

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BenQ tax

ashen spindle
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that's why you watch movies of a series where they can develop the characters blobhyperthinkfast

lethal wasp
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1.5x actual value

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are the end of the day you're buying a TN panel

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fuck paying serious money for one

ashen spindle
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I mean that's why I said I want to see that stuff in a ips/va panel :p

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I never said this is a good panel or anything

lethal wasp
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VA is never going to happen

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I had a 144hz VA panel that from samsung

ashen spindle
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how dare you just destroy my dreams like that

lethal wasp
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grey to grey made it shit it's pants

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everything else was fine

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until the screen corrupted when cold

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until I warmed it up

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IPS is feasible

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probably exists

ashen spindle
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sure but in dark rooms VA is still better for the most part imo

lethal wasp
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VA is INSANELY slow

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there is no way

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that it will ever be in a worthwhile gaming panel

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OLED will become affordable

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before VA is worth a wank for FPS

ashen spindle
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the 32GK850G is a nice va panel a coworker got recently, apparently its really nice, but hes not a shooter player so theres that

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oh yeah true I forget about oled

lethal wasp
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it's great 90% of the time

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yeah it's called OLED

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get a TV then lol

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you can get a 120hz OLED tv for like 1000 quid iirc

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49 inch panels are coming soon

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incase you want a crampt 4k tv

ashen spindle
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the 27GL850 is a great IPS if I remember the right reviews, only downside is in color accuracy dark rooms I think they said

lethal wasp
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and how much was your rig

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when are you getting a graphics card?

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😂

ashen spindle
lethal wasp
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how does anyone build a worthwhile pc for less than 4 figures in 2020

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what case/psu?

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nothing matters pog

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yes

ashen spindle
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uhh psu not mattering is the number one mistake people do in pc building nowadays imo

lethal wasp
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state your units sweetie

ashen spindle
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usd/eur

lethal wasp
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there we go

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where did braided cable kits go?

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they existed for like

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a month

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and vanished forever

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I had to just get cable extensions

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not what I wanted to do

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but no better alternative

ashen spindle
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hrm that looks like a nice panel but not 0.5ms gtg unless im looking at the wrong spot?

lethal wasp
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I posted a diff link

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0.3ms claimed

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but that's bs

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they got 0.9ms in testing

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monitor specs are complete toss anyways

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they make a 240hz ips as well

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acer are much fairer with their pricing usually

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especially for this period of monitors that are half baked

ashen spindle
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Don’t even know what the other one costed, as I just saw the headline and want that in other panels on the future :p

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Yesnt

lethal wasp
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computers are dinosaur tech kinda

ashen spindle
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Because good will always stay relative

lethal wasp
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I think TVs might bridge the gap eventually

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tbh though

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no one wants a tv under 50 inches these days

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it's not as big as it sounds

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you think you'd never find room for it

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but even in my room I feel like I could have got a 55 and not felt bad about it

ashen spindle
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Just like variable refresh rate is obvious now to be a must have at some point, at some point in the past people didn’t even think about it so new feature will come up etc.

lethal wasp
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I think monitors and laptops will always be 5-10 years behind

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keyboards/mice are entering endgame territory

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headsets/usb mics have a long way to go

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but what do you expect

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normies won't pay real money for a headset

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they want a mic, headphones and DAC/ADC for pennies

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so it's all trash hardware

ashen spindle
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I expect the unexpected once x86 licenses run out if you ask that broadly :p

lethal wasp
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huh?

ashen spindle
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Sec trying to find an article

lethal wasp
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what the fuck

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the C920 is sold out

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literally the most common webcam in existance

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is out of stock

fair gull
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i mean

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what u gonna do when china shuts down

lethal wasp
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I have one that's basically unused sat about

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maybe I can get some £ on ebay when people scramble more

cedar glen
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@lethal wasp I don't watch much tv shows but when I do, i just pirate them, yea

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paying for 10 subs to different services makes no sense

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when all i'd watch is one or two on each

lethal wasp
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that's why people do 2

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spotify and netflix

ashen spindle
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hrm I cant find the article I had in mind

cedar glen
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yeah then add HBO to watch GoT, add disney+ to watch the mandalorian, add hulu to watch south park

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fuck that noise

lethal wasp
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I torrent the others

cedar glen
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I just torrent all of them /shrug

lethal wasp
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netflix is hit or miss

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torrenting is spooky nowadays

cedar glen
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besides, netflix in france is meh

lethal wasp
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in the UK atleast

ashen spindle
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basically, some x86 licenses expiring soon, a company called Nuvia being founded by ex intel/arm/appl etc. people to compete in server chip market where only ARM could try to get close to intel/amd previously

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and I expect big changes there that cause ripples in the rest of the hardware economy

lethal wasp
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inb4 literally nothing happens like intel making gpus

ashen spindle
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nah they raised quite a lot of money and have people with actual tack records on board and not just good looking linkedin histories

cedar glen
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ye of little faith

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just you wait

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soon intel will dethrone the GT 1030

ashen spindle
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the issues intel are having with gpu are due to what caused the 10nm issues, it's a continuation of the already existing issues, not them failing to enter a new segment

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well yes, but actually no

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it will change what will drop down to the consumer, what amd/intel/nvidia make and thus size down for consumers if it's not a split IP etc

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yes but you will most likely never get any of their products

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but what will be on your chips/boards/in-output etc. will most likely changed based on stuff trickling down from that to consumer hardware

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so no, in the near future nothing of that impacts you

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well, there is a low chance new specs might come down to consumers a bit sooner, but that is imo not something that can be predicted unless you work in the field

lethal wasp
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AMD have already broken the stalemate in the segment

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frankly our biggest issue is whether the USA burns china the the ground if this turns out to be biological warfare

reef patrol
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Honestly considering their "handling" of it so far, this just proves the US wouldn't be able to survive a targeted attack 😄

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We Division now boyz

lethal wasp
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this is based on the presumption that allies weren't given weaker strains to provide a defence

ashen spindle
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yes amd got back into server and is demolishing intel, but the only thing consumers get from this is ryzen cpus, which is nice and all but nothing new in the field

lethal wasp
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??

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as opposed to what

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a different name?

ashen spindle
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same instruction set, same way the layout on boards is etc.

lethal wasp
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you can have as many cores as you want with IPC soon to exceed intels

ashen spindle
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zen2 ipc is ahead of intel

lethal wasp
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if the clock speed isn't there then it's a bit scuffed

ashen spindle
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what I mean is, the "only" better thing we get from that is better cpu's and what they use

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they still use x86/x64

lethal wasp
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a new architecture would require a new OS codebase and new languages, right?

ashen spindle
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what I mean is more stuff like the 12VO PSU stuff intel wants to introduce and such

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well yesn't

lethal wasp
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sounds like you're looking decades ahead

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hopefully I'll have a less sad hobby by then

ashen spindle
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unlike ARM they will be using some x86 instructions, which means adoption will be faster as they can plan around that

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which is why it will not take as along as ARM did to gain relevancy

lethal wasp
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so relevant it doesn't enter conversation 😂

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what exactly does that change?

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12v cpus or what?

ashen spindle
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it ditches the 3.3 and 5v rails

lethal wasp
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I don't see why x64 couldn't adopt it?

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if it really mattered that much

ashen spindle
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uh, you misread I think, that psu has nothing to do with the rest I talked about

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I just meant to say, something like that is what we will see as a consumer form this

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bc that is the most recent changeup of the stagnant pc building space

lethal wasp
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I'd much rather see small scale oled

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than a new cpu type

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no amount of processing power is going to stop monitors looking shite

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and being one of the biggest steps in the latency chain

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1ms mice/keebs are here finally

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who are you talking to?

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we have tiny OLED (phones)

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and BEEEEG OLED (TVs)

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we just need medium scale

ashen spindle
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monitor tech wont be changed by it for sure, but I just think there's a good chance other stuff has a chance to get changed, it's hard to say because honestly the entire topic is way above my level but I think I can grasp what the implications of it could be for consumers

lethal wasp
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we literally have either end of the spectrum

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also arn't OLED good for colour accurate work?

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can't we just sell them for fuck off money to businesses?

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and trickle them down to upper class gamers?

ashen spindle
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I think burn in is still a big concern for that

lethal wasp
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I'm sure they can build in fuckery that helps prevent it

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with an opt out that voids your warrenty

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luminosity is the enemy

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dark themes save OLED lifespan

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and energy

ashen spindle
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hey luminosity wasn't that bad :p

lethal wasp
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wut

ashen spindle
lethal wasp
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oh the brain training meme

ashen spindle
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wait what

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for ~2ish years I was part of an esports org called Luminosity that's why, not because some brain thing

lethal wasp
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TF2 team?

ashen spindle
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smite

lethal wasp
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🤢

ashen spindle
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tf2 I played but not top-top level

lethal wasp
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why is OW considered an FPS

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when the defining factor to win isn't aim

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🤔

reef patrol
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It's a first person game for one 😄

lethal wasp
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first person moba

reef patrol
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So it's objectively more of an FPS than most Ubisoft games.

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Which are shooters*

lethal wasp
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push Q delete enemies

safe patrol
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booooooooooooo

lethal wasp
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10/10

safe patrol
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I can still hear my PC fans spinning x3

lethal wasp
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wut

safe patrol
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I upgraded my 120mm fans to Be Quiet! brand, and theres still noise under my desk

lethal wasp
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fans are so annoying

safe patrol
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thats awesome 😄

lethal wasp
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they have stupid names that aren't clear to their usage

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oops you just bought a pressure boi

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no airflow for you son

safe patrol
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how many tens of kilo's does it weigh? x3

lethal wasp
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isn't the thickness of the thins staggeringly inefficient?

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albeit at least it can be touched by human hands

safe patrol
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hrm... maybe?

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there's certainly enough surface area to make it warm, but not hot

lethal wasp
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I mean just lifting it without breaking it or cutting yourself

safe patrol
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ueaj

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yeah

wheat plume
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minecraft noplay sound ;-;

ashen spindle
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oh no that metal gets hot dont underestimate it lol

lethal wasp
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80c temps

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but that's at the core

safe patrol
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you'd want a forklift

lethal wasp
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not sure what it heatsoaks to externally

safe patrol
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@prisma crag -- fins are usually to increase surface area for coolin

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cooling

lethal wasp
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SCIENCE BITCH

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our old science teacher told us to put something about increasing surface area if we didn't understand a question 😂

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well no because it would just headsoak more without dissipation

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it would just take a tiny bit longer to hit it's peak temp

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just like water cooling vs air cooling

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a higher temperature differential will pull heat away faster, no?

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imagine if this was a chonk of solid copper lol

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Ali is decently thermally conductive though iirc

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it's used in triple ply cookware as a pseudo heatpipe

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so you can warp it on your electric hob and go fucking ballistic

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yay, different expansion rates >.>

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some higher end PSUs are fanless up to a certain load

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I think my EVGA G2 doesn't kick the fan if it's in eco mode

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EVGA P2 would presumably generate even less heat

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seasonic is EVGA's OEM

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no big surprise

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they are literally the best

ashen spindle
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seasonic are also marketing partners with wooting! good choice 😉

lethal wasp
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it's a mix I think

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it's super flower for the range I'm talking about

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EVGA has a very good rep anyways

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I trust them 100x more than ASUS

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no idea

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they don't break 😂

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only with asus

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who kept sending me back my intermittent fault 5770

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saying it's fine

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reinstall

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acts like a cunt

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I don't recall the problem

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it's a decade ago now

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I know it drove me fucking insane though

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I don't purchase on the premise of assuming I need to return an item

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because I just never have had to

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buy cheap buy twice

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look for high praise and it's rarely an issue

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doesn't that psu guru have a hard on for EVGA psus

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an EVGA psu is in every enthusiast build

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without question

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except for the few that buy corsair because they own the shitty coolers/keyboards

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I can't stand corsair as a company for some reason

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yeah but the price is way higher

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I'd rather own a real seasonic

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but at the end of the day

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it's a fucking power supply

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and it's in an enclosure where I can't even see it

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it's already 80+ gold/plat etc

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it's just a good habit

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and it's therapeutic

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and almost certainly autistic 😂

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I painted the tips of my exposed wires black

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where the heat shrink ends

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like on

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usb headers etc

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where they just don't give a fuck

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look asshole, you have a 3.0 port directly next to the power button so you can push it when you blind insert a usb drive what else do you want? 😠

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aight, I feel you fractal, don't even trip

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anyways

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evga are the only company that make gpus

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that don't look like baby toys

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I went from a flimsy MSI card

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to an EVGA card

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and it was like comparing a Bentley to a fiat

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RED DOES NOT MEAN GAMING

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STOP

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PLEASE

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SCHIIT EVEN DOES IT

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LOOK IT GAYMER

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or that new 4k webcam coming to market

chrome estuary
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I read that as "sand blast it"

lethal wasp
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me to

chrome estuary
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and thought, "Why the fuck would you sand blast it?"

lethal wasp
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I mean it is ally

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so you could?

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insane overkill

chrome estuary
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do i need to bust out jurassic park references

lethal wasp
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AH AH AAAAA

chrome estuary
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"They spent so long thinking they could, instead of thinking they should."

lethal wasp
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sand blasting would be much more fun*

chrome estuary
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get one of those little electric hand sanders

lethal wasp
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sanding is quite possibly the worst activity

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I can't stand it

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I CAN'T SAND IT I TELL YOU

chrome estuary
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you mean

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god damn it

lethal wasp
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owo

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I'm a budget lee mack

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lol

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buffer* pepesweat

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I hate waxing cars too

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give me that spray on SI02

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wax can't get into seams 🤔

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yeah I looked into detailing a bit too

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there are some reasonable budget (relatively speaking) options

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with something as expensive and delicate as paint

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I'd rather go with trade certification

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I can't believe how no one can understand just how soft paint is

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I like to imagine the gloss layer like a paper thin tupperware container 😂

safe patrol
cedar glen
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frankly our biggest issue is whether the USA burns china the the ground if this turns out to be biological warfare
@lethal wasp conspiracy theory aside, don't bank on that : https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1243407157321560071

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ashen spindle
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yeah but he sometimes does an 180 on his opinion in the very next tweet, that doesnt mean much

lethal wasp
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wasn't he calling it kung flu?

ashen spindle
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probably

lethal wasp
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Zealencio Silencing Clips

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there we go

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Both bottom out and up stroke sounds are dampened while using Cherry profile keycaps. OEM/DSA/DCS/SA caps have the upstroke silenced only.

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I thought China and America hate each other because of spying paranoia etc

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inb4 the vaccine comes from either UK or China

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meanwhile japan and russia are basically untouched somehow

ashen spindle
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nah russia has cases, but I think they just shot the people who coughed in those cities

lethal wasp
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probably assumed coughing was gay and culled them like usual

ashen spindle
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or its spreading in some rural areas of russia where they dont even know what they got bc internet is not a thing there

lethal wasp
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I'm still convinced that there are multiple strains

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and that the UK is purposely infected with a safer version

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like small pox and cow pox

ashen spindle
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eh, while I think its possible to have multiple strains of it going around, I think its other factors

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like it was at first thought to affect male people much more than female

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but that was because smoking is vastly more popular with chinese males

cedar glen
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the point is every time pekin calls him he shits his pants and comes around

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till he gets comfy again with insulting them

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so if there's a war they'd just have to call him to stop it all

lethal wasp
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I wouldn't be surprised if this was an engineered cull

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their government is as morally bankrupt as it gets

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any country that slaughters passive protestors should be taken with more salt than a LOL final

ashen spindle
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While I do think that is possible I don't think it was spread on purpose, it would make much more sense to have an "accident" occur somewhere else if that is the plan

lethal wasp
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if it starts in a shit heap province then you can just blame your dirty, poor citizens

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oh look these guys will eat anything for protein, we just can't stop them y'know

ashen spindle
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but this is hurting them more than the silly trade war with the us did

lethal wasp
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not when they are the ones providing medical supplies

ashen spindle
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having it happen on a different island or so would be much more effective to harm others and stay safe yourself

lethal wasp
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and probably vaccines later

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inb4 they are sat on a vaccine already

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and are waiting for a feasible timeframe to swoop in

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you can't say you have an antidote faster than previous pandemic research has achieved in the past

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I think something fishy is going on in the UK

ashen spindle
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well, you can because this strain is from I read not mutating heavily due to a self repairing mRNA so if you get something that works it will work for quite some time and dont need to finetune it for variations

lethal wasp
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I have a feeling there was two waves

ashen spindle
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but I have no degree in that field, so I could be way off

lethal wasp
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a weak virus delivered to us in early december or earlier

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and cross contamination of the real one much later

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just before the lockdown

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I'm sure I've already had it but I can't get tested

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despite working in a care home

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it's a joke

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over half the workers are convinced we've had it

ashen spindle
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yea the limited tests everywhere is a joke

lethal wasp
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the UK was the most complacent country to all this

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we should be getting decimated

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but we just arn't

ashen spindle
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and now boris has it rooKek

lethal wasp
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or he just shows antibodies 🤔

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inb4 a vaccine already exists

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or an isolated strain like I said

ashen spindle
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think it got isolated in scottland last week? idk

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too busy with not being busy in this quarantine to care about conspiracies

lethal wasp
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I'm on the front line too 🤷

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no one is allowed in the kitchen and we only leave for breaks

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driving me insane

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have 6 people waiting at the door when I come in

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asking for random supplies

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all day

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CAN I HAVE A SPOON?

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dishwasher is dead too

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which makes it 100x worse

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running around handwashing everything getting interrupted with wet soapy hands

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I forgot we are decanting industrial washing up liquid into fairy bottles

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so I've got dermatitis again from washing my hands with it

ashen spindle
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to say it in the words I saw on twitter 2 minutes ago: "I swear we are fighting two pandemics
Covid 19 and Stupidity"

lethal wasp
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you know what

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it really shows who the worthless cunts are

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I think we should have a fake pandemic and people who act up get deported to a second australia

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we had people getting mugged for toilet roll for fuck sake

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spitting in faces

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people need a shotgun to the back of the head fr

ashen spindle
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I wish we could force social media to be deactivated for a day

lethal wasp
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deactive people below a certain IQ lol

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I hate the fact we paid idiots to breed for decades

ashen spindle
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because I can already see the april fools version of this year, recording fake coughs onto old people and claim it as april fools joke

lethal wasp
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oh no

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don't even put the idea into words

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law of attraction or w/e

ashen spindle
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we already have the tik tok version of it, corona-challenge where people lick toilet seats and handles in public transport

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so its not new sadly

lethal wasp
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fuck off

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no way

ashen spindle
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or on an airplane seat

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that person later got tested positive

lethal wasp
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making me gag

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corona is far from the worst thing you can get

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in that instance

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that's like

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a best case

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tfw countries with non aged populations are smug when it's just the fact we're all dying young

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smooth brain logic

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I love that insult so much

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I just imagine lifting open someones head

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and seeing two chicken fillets

reef patrol
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Almost all gamer boards use OEM.

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Keep in mind Razer and Corsair use non-"standard" bottom rows, so not fully Corsair compatible.

lethal wasp
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razer don't anymore

reef patrol
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Oh?

lethal wasp
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ye

reef patrol
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Nice - Now they just need to get rid of the rootkit drivers 😄

lethal wasp
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standard bottom row with removeable type c cable

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those in glass houses pepesweat

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wootility is light but it also has no features 😂

reef patrol
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I don't work for Wooting, so hah! 😄

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Though tbh I'd rather have few features than Chroma. It has messed up so many systems.

lethal wasp
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no you work for free 😂

lethal wasp
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^every 17/18 year old lass in my workplace

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what's the downside to cherry profile?

reef patrol
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Preference.

lethal wasp
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shorter keys = less wobble because math iirc?

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I thought that's like the only reason people care about cherry profile?

reef patrol
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So... grab you some low profile laptop keys 😄

lethal wasp
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with mx stems?

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cherry profile doesn't top out with zilencio clips somehow

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in that diagram it looks almost the same

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probably matters more for top mount?

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are the switches mounted lower in those dishy cases?

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I don't know the terminology tbf

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I'm not a keeb guy really

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like

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the keys can be countersunk

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like old office keyboards

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instead of floating

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I imagine the floating design is slightly taller by nature

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oh really?

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pcb height can vary though I guess?

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like

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I can't screw my pcb down anymore in my wooting one :/

reef patrol
lethal wasp
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every single standoff is stripped out

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how can you even crossthread plastic

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it doesn't hold a thread

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it just mushes up

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it's one and done

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that's why we have metal liners usually

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fuck that

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they are TINY self tapping screws

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going into very soft plastic

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I'm not a lock picking god

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it's been apart a good few times

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probably atleast 5 times

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another reason I wanted a metal housing

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aside from side stepping the silly mods to make a plastic one servicable

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no

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it's actually lighter than wooting somehow

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despite having stabs on EVERY KEY

reef patrol
lethal wasp
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there's no sound variation between hitting anywhere on each key tbf

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which is cool

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it does do something

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but it's huge overkill

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much less practical than still have pepega 20ms debounce

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which I'm sure some crackheads can out pace

reef patrol
#

Best wireless ambi mouse? Go.

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Need one for a friend. 😄

ashen spindle
#

Yes g pro wireless fits the tag „best“

zenith sonnet
#

@prisma crag GPW does have mirrored side buttons

latent mural
#

Viper ultimate is superior in hardware, logitech is better in software

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still it's pretty close, although u have to buy custom grips for GPW

pale sigil
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i really need monitor stand

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or well the clamp thing

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because right now my monitors are like this

timid chasm
#

tis handy. That's how my right monitor is

pale sigil
#

sadly my computer is on the right

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so im unable to put it there

timid chasm
#

I only use it for discord though lol

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I keep my PC on the ground cause it's ugly and the case is like 10+ years old with battle scars

pale sigil
#

i cant

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otherwise i would

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Cleaning up atm

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But as you can see

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It's cramped rn

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And if I choose to have my monitor at the center I can't see my left monfor

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Monitor

latent mural
#

Step 1: transplant to an ITX form factor build

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Step 2: get an ultrawide monitor

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Step 3. PROFIT

pale sigil
#

itx is my dream build

latent mural
#

Step 4: buy an Ikea desk

pale sigil
#

this is an ikea desk

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xD

latent mural
#

ughhh looks like u found it in the dumpster

pale sigil
#

its just like 6 years old

#

and i basically use it as a work bench

latent mural
#

well my pc is about the size of that keyboard in length and width

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maybe less

pale sigil
#

This is what itused to look likehttps://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/linnmon-adils-table-black-brown-black-s49932670/

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well, they dont offer this material anymore

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asll i need to do is buy one of these tbh

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i could just re use the legs

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well

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the 150cm one

latent mural
#

i have alex draws and a solid wood kitchen tabletop

pale sigil
#

i cant really afford anything

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atm

latent mural
#

think they discontinued it tho

pale sigil
#

damn

latent mural
#

yeah my pc case was 300 euro alone

pale sigil
#

that looks like decent quality wood

latent mural
#

my pc build is 2000+

pale sigil
#

my desk isn't even really wood

#

i mean its wood

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but its not a plank

latent mural
#

desk total cost me around 250

pale sigil
#

im to poor

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xD

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i got this desk when i was in college

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with 0 income

#

and its done me great

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i wish i got a desk when i was getting money during uni

latent mural
#

i sanded and stained my desk

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i'm poor too i just have a nice setup

#

that will become even better with a Lekker

pale sigil
#

i literally used all my money via uni

#

to get everything i wanted

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and im happy i did

#

im poor af now but ihave everything i want

#

its a good place to be till i sort my shit out

latent mural
#

uni seems like a scam lol

#

but thats coming from a highschool dropout

#

i will try to get back to college one day

pale sigil
#

it is a scam

latent mural
#

living on campus and all that jazz isn't really my cup of tea

ashen spindle
#

it depends on the subject, IT you can somewhat learn online yourself, good luck getting something akin to a chemisty degree with only publicly availible chemicals lmao

pale sigil
#

i never lived on campus

latent mural
#

i may pursue a computer science degree

pale sigil
#

i spent 5 hours a day travelling PepEsAd

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Computer science is soooooooooooo boringggggggggggggg

latent mural
#

@ashen spindle just ask Walter White lmfao

ashen spindle
#

I mean I started a chemistry degree before switching to programming so I can just ask myself :p

latent mural
#

chemistry degree doesn't seem to have much immediate uses unless you plan to run a meth lab

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but meth is not a widely used drug in UK

ashen spindle
#

uh I mean it's a hard requirement to work at any chemical company if you want to go above basic lab jobs where they train their own people, research etc.

latent mural
#

chemical company 😐

#

i think a degree that can benefit Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence is a good one

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probably computer science

ashen spindle
#

that area for sure just because of all the math classes and having direct contact to people who know how to explain that and teach it is not something you can find on the internet really

latent mural
#

I'm not good with maths =/

ashen spindle
#

then learning it via classes should be much better than online by yourself

latent mural
#

that's fine

#

i just need to get 3 GCSE's first before i can pursue a higher education course

pale sigil
#

eh

#

Wot

#

Just go to College

#

Get your UCAS points or A Levels

#

Oh wait nvm

#

Eng, Math and Science.

latent mural
#

yeah lol

pale sigil
#

Ye no i only needed Math for my degree.

#

Lol

latent mural
#

don't ask me how old i am 😄

pale sigil
#

K

latent mural
#

92 years old...

pale sigil
#

Never to late

#

Well

latent mural
#

reversed

pale sigil
#

Next year.

#

i guess

#

Just dont go Edge Hill

timid chasm
#

Chem degree is one of the recommended degrees for pre-med

#

at least in the US I assume it's similar elsewhere

ashen spindle
#

uh no, here you study medicine if you want to go the med route, the needed chemistry, bio classes etc. are in that degree

timid chasm
#

So you go to college for medicine instead of going for a degree and then going to medical school?

ashen spindle
#

well no not really, med school usually is part of universities here, so you just go to different classrooms that the law students for example

timid chasm
#

Interesting. We have specific colleges for things like law and medicine here.

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Typically it can be the same school name but entirely different schools

#

If that makes sense

ashen spindle
#

depending on size of the city/uni some just have more or less degree choices

timid chasm
#

I think you can go to medical school without a bachelors here but it's not common

#

You still have to have what they call "pre-med" classes under your belt though

ashen spindle
#

it takes the same time here, you just dont do a random bachelor, you do a specific one

#

also we dont really have the whole campus thing here so universities aren't really limted in space, the big one we have here has multiple buildings stretched over quite some area for different faculties

timid chasm
#

We have sub-sets I think. Like Chem, Bio, or Phys with specific class requirements. Some Natural science requirements. Then you have to be accepted into med school and do you 4-5 years there

#

I see, interesting.

pale sigil
#

Fixed the disc drive on this ps4

#

But have to activate it online

#

Wot

reef patrol
#

Licensing fees

#

Also probably unlock keys

pale sigil
#

I have no way to test the disc drive

#

Joys

reef patrol
#

Don't spose it supports a keeb

pale sigil
#

I don't have any ps4 discs

#

F

pale sigil
#

Just can't escape weebs

ashen spindle
#

only when you host?

#

upload could just be shit

#

nvm I didnt read the last sentence

#

what router/modem do you have?

fickle ore
#

retarded router f/w/settings/nat/firewall

ashen spindle
#

have you done a tracert to your friends ip to check if it's just terrible routing?

fickle ore
#

its your router yes

#

wat

ashen spindle
#

what DNS server do you use

fickle ore
#

its a wired router?

#

or wireless

ashen spindle
#

and try doing the tracert to your friends ip

fickle ore
#

I mean.. is there cable from your router to the wall

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😮

#

bad route is first hop of over 1ms

ashen spindle
#

that or if in the middle it hops to 100+

fickle ore
#

ye well, wireless connections in general r bad

#

wireless routers are garbo

ashen spindle
#

yes that should be fine

#

just make sure to not post the full tracert into chat later unless you want to dox someone lmao

fickle ore
#

see if yu can access the settings and turn off settings related to gaming like flood detection, nat, firewall etc and turm em off

#

and update fw

ashen spindle
#

also wait, your router has a sim card, I need to read up on that lmao

fickle ore
#

its a 3g or 5g router

ashen spindle
#

oh so its a LTE to pc router thingy?

#

doubt its 5g already lmao

fickle ore
#

woops. ye. 3g/4g wireless

ashen spindle
#

can you ping your local google site or so as comparison

#

bc that looks like a shit connection

#

uh tracert, not ping ofc

fickle ore
#

your connection is bad

ashen spindle
#

yea

fickle ore
#

I got 40ms to Frankfurt from further north than you

#

You have 40ms to your local city

crimson wigeon
#

Get a proper wired connection

#

🙂

fickle ore
#

40ms is ok for LAN

#

u said u get 200ms so your routers are fucked

#

change your router settings and that should work

#

well it is

#

So what settings is the SIM using if its in your phone?

#

Your router's I assume, still...

#

I think the SIM is connected to the router which is a hotspot with a bigger antenna for wireless comms

#

cos its using your routers instead of steam servers which are configured properly and are better hardware

#

got to CMD

#

and type ipconfig

#

Default Gateway

#

its usually 192.168.1.1

crimson wigeon
#

do ip addr and perhaps ip route

fickle ore
#

see if u can turn on bridging, disable firewall, check flood detection and other gaming settings

#

NAT for example

#

Not necessarily

#

it checks every packet and might get swamped with small packets especially in gaming related network traffic

#

same for NAT which is why you turn Bridging on in shittier routers

reef patrol
#

Bridging? ... So no DHCP? 😛

#

That seems odd.

crimson wigeon
#

My guess is that 4G connection, plenty of people using it probably getting shaped in a nasty way, but if it's only P2P a crazy idea would be to perhaps tunnel through a VPN

fickle ore
#

Just a guess but since you're playing via p2p and one of you is hosting, have you portforwarded each other's routers?

#

😮

#

or whitelisted..

#

this is how u fix internet issues

#

turn off all settings in router

#

if that dont fix curse and call ISP

reef patrol
#

I wouldn't wish wireless internet on my worst enemy. Externally that is.

#

Just lay down some fibre and use reindeer to extend it through the woods.

#

If there is a silver lining about covid... it'll make companies push for stable, strong internet a lot more, since we're unlikely to get entirely back to office attendance. Now that more and more companies are run remote, they get a taste for it.

#

For sure.

#

I had to get a second desk to work from home remotely efficient.

#

If I'm on my main PC, I tend to zone out and faff about on social media without noticing.

#

Saving two hours of commute every day is definitely a cool thing.

#

I'd be very open to having more of a virtual office space, where you can kind of VR esque go to someone's desk and poke em

#

I mean... an hour each way every day is pretty common?

#

Mine was within walking distance. Very convenient. Grocery shop on the way home 😄

lethal wasp
#

didn't someone else want an ANSI layout with a pound sign?

reef patrol
#

Isnt it everywhere?

solar hinge
#

that's the pound sign
please do not look at it @fallow bison it is not for you, but 18+

fallow bison
#

Quinn

#

no

reef patrol
solar hinge
#

sorry @fallow bison i'll put a +18 sign before it

fallow bison
#

yes Quinn thanks

wheat plume
#

🤔

solar hinge
#

@wheat plume spare a pound(ing) for @fallow bison ?

#

he needs toilet paper and is willing

#

😛

wheat plume
#

:')

solar hinge
#

spread the love and the cheeks 😄

fallow bison
#

youre not helping me Quinn

wheat plume
#

same

fallow bison
#

i loved you Quinn

#

i did

wheat plume
#

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

lethal wasp
#

yup

#

with videos

#

and I said the apple keeb had a scanrate of 50khz in 1980s

#

what gives

#

and linked the article to it

#

I got the 3310 smoothing fixed on the mionix avior

#

back when I was an OCN tard

#

before the great purge of placebo PC tweaks

#

that being said I could tell the difference in 5ms latency increments back in the day

#

but it was headache inducingly difficult to tell

#

I got like 21/25 samples or something

lethal wasp
#

is 5G expensive to implement in phones or just brand taxed?

ashen spindle
#

it does cost more, not just brand taxed

#

5G basically has 3 different implementations, the short range that gets blocked by a piece of paper but has really high speeds if it isn't blocked

#

idk what the 3rd one does, but the other one is on a longer wave so it can be used for rural areas for example because it reaches much further and isnt blocked as easily, but doesnt offer the same extreme speeds as milimeter wave 5g does

#

the big issue is big telco advertising it as one thing that does everything to sell more phones with it

#

chicken/egg nobody is spending millions to upgrade if nobody uses it, so they first need to get phones out that can use it, even if nothing is there yet

wheat plume
#

on the best 4G signal possible, what is the maximum and mimimum speeds?

ashen spindle
#

idk ask wikipedia

wheat plume
#

O.o

#

the max I get is 16mb/s

#

wow

#

even in the middle of Dublin I only got 16 down

#

and 4 up

ashen spindle
#

meanwhile I barely use my phone so I have it set to only use 3G to save battery lmao

#

not once have I used LTE

#

so I'll probably skip from 3 to 5g at some point haha

#

pfft, sometimes I'm even on EDGE, bet you dont even have that

#

edge is basically 2.75G that nobody uses moutside germany I thought lmao

crimson wigeon
#

I wouldn't be surprised if that's still all you get if you really go out in the middle of nowhere

#

Or perhaps even.. GPRS

ashen spindle
#

I thought there you owuld just get gprs but not edge

wheat plume
#

4g in Ireland is fake 4G

#

even with a router and a cable I have not seen anyone with connection faster than 70mb/s

#

2 of my uncles have fiber, my aunt has a cable

#

and my friend has fiber too

#

im not that far from a tower in my student housing because there is a tech park nearby

#

there are 3 of them in that area

#

but idk if my phone has the bands they work from

#

they use bands 3 and 20

#

ooohh

#

idk what much of this stuff means but it it says that band name is 3

#

band number*

#

it seems the closest tower to me is about 20KM away

#

yup

#

wow

#

...

#

even at my student house I dont get above 16 down

lethal wasp
#

never tested mine at home

#

cursed battery

#

bye

lethal wasp
#

it died instantly after

#

lmao

golden girder
#

@lethal wasp The USB specification only allow 500 mA max, the Wootings are "close" to it.

lethal wasp
#

does the lekker require more or less power?

golden girder
#

I had a rought discussion about the whole USB-C here with multiple people. No one belived me that only the connector on the Wooting 2 was the problem. So I dive into the USB cable specification find the problem, created a demo connector and proved that in the end I was right all along.

#

Hmm, I don't know but from all the things I heared I would say yes. But Wooting says that's around the same.

#

So the hall effect sensore should not use much energy compared to the infrared LEDs. But the LEDs for the RGB stuff are bigger and brighter.

lethal wasp
#

I suppose they can drive them harder with the extra available power in 3.0 spec

golden girder
#

No, they still just use USB 2.0.

wheat plume
#

so its best to plug the wooting two into USB 2?

lethal wasp
#

doesn't matter in theory

golden girder
#

It doesn't matter.

lethal wasp
#

unless one usb controller is performing better somehow

#

sometimes 3.0 ports act buggy with 2.0 devices I've found

golden girder
#

You can't use a USB-C to C cable on the W2 due to the used connector.

wheat plume
#

hmmm, I think the ports in the front of my PC are usb 2

#

but the back ones my keyboard and mouse are in are 3

golden girder
#

The problem with USB 3.X is because of driver issues.

lethal wasp
#

can't usb 3.0 create system interrupts like ps/2?

#

ahh

golden girder
#

No...

#

USB has different transport types, there is an interrupt type / mode but it's not a hardware interrupt like on PS/2.

#

A lot of USB 3.X ports are handled via additional / separate controller on the motherboard. So it can happen that the driver built-in in the OS isn't the correct one which should be used and because of this it can be that there are problems.

#

Because of this it's recommended to use the drivers which are offered from the mainboard vendor.

#

The Wootings are using an Atmel MCU which only support USB 2.0 with full speed (12 Mbit/s). As far as I know the Lekker is using the same or a similar one.

#

To be able to officially get more than 500 mA you would need enhanced speed or support power delivery. Both would be bad to support on a keyboard.

#

That's why some vendors are using multiple ports on their products.

reef patrol
#

I wonder if that is truly a problem is this day and age.

#

I mean... It's pretty hard to track down a PC that has USB2 to begin with aside from legacy front ports?

#

Especially in the gamer space. You'd be hard pressed to find a ... what... 2nd gen Intel era machine with predominantly USB2 ports 😄

golden girder
#

Vendors typically cover more, like up to 900 mA. But again this is out of spec and no company should expect that all controller can handle that.

reef patrol
golden girder
#

The controller are coved by a constant-current diode if I remember it right. So if proper implemented it should just don't provide more power.

#

But if not something can burn and so destroy the USB controller or the whole PCB and so the motherboard.

reef patrol
#

I'm sure you're right. Electrical engineering is a bit above my head. I just hear "USB 2 fallback" and think "But... USB2 isn't really a thing anymore. Everyone's gotta have USB3 as a minimum, if not one of the countless later upgrades" 😄

slender rain
#

I still have a PC here with USB 2.0 ports

golden girder
#

But the problem with the higher power on USB 3 is that you are only allow to draw it when you are using a USB 3 chip, meaning enhanced speed (> 450 MByte/s) which is total useless for a keyboard in any way.

slender rain
#

Also my PC at work should have USB 2.0 ports too

golden girder
#

Even some modern boards have often still some 2.0 ports.

reef patrol
#

Do you GAME on your work PC though? I'm not saying you can't find USB2 in the wild, but any PC should have predominantly USB3 today. Even on the front with cheap cases moving to USB3 headers years ago. 🙂

#

To be fair though I built gaming PCs - Not work ones. But the Wooting is a gaming grade board, so it makes sense to focus on that group.

golden girder
#

Easier and less prone to errors.

slender rain
#

I considered using the wooing two on my work PC ^^

reef patrol
#

Anyhoo - If it can be done with USB2 then no point in using USB3. If the board can't be utilized fully to its potential, then a USB3 only approach seems obvious 😄

slender rain
#

Currently it's a G11

#

But...

#

Aren't there USB 3.0 controller boards out there?

reef patrol
#

Sure are.

#

Either ones slotted into PCI-E, or just dummy boards that use the motherboard's spare (if any) USB3 header and bring it out back.

golden girder
#

Again, having USB 3 support for any input device would be more than a overkill. I don't even know of a single keyboard supporting high speed (480 Mbit/s).

reef patrol
#

Fair 😄

#

Wasn't it mostly a power concern, not data though?

slender rain
#

It was

reef patrol
#

Personally I'm not overly bothered - But I would definitely love to be able to do C to C, since I have several C ports on my PCs 😄

golden girder
#

Yeah, but this would add much more cost and complexity just for power. And in addition it would restrict a lot.

reef patrol
golden girder
#

You can do USB-C to C if you are using multiple adapters.

#

The problem with the W2 is the missing handling of the CC pins. USB-A and B don't have this so the cable must provide it.

#

That's why there is no problem with the used cable for the W2. So by daisy chaining multiple adapters it would work.

#

If you are using the correct ones!

#

Or if you inject power from somethere else, but I wouldn't recommend this because if you do something wrong (wrong voltage or different ground) it can break something.

#

I hope Wooting will offer the corrected USB connector together with a cable as an upgrade kit some day. So a W1 can be upgraded and the W2 can be fixed.

wheat plume
#

What does any of that mean?

golden girder
#

What exactly?

wheat plume
#

yyour last message

golden girder
#

You can swap the connector of the Wootings, the part that is connected to the PCB and provide the hole for the USB cable.

#

So that instead of a micro-B connector the W1 has a C connector like the W2.

wheat plume
#

hmmm

golden girder
#

@lethal wasp You can try to ask Wooting for a connector, maybe they can offer you one. And if a lot of people ask for it they maybe will offer it in general.

lethal wasp
#

the wooting 2 port as a drop in replacement?

#

🤔

golden girder
#

Yes...

wheat plume
#

🤔

lethal wasp
#

rip lol

golden girder
#

500g, heavy...

#

Hmm, I think the most noice came from the reflection of the metal top plate and not the empty housing.

#

So I can't really imagine that this helps a lot...

lethal wasp
#

mic on top of keyboard

#

like 5 inches away

wheat plume
#

sends only the sound of keypresses instead of voice

lethal wasp
#

unmodified huntsman te for comparison

golden girder
#

Without a direct comparison with my it don't really help.

lethal wasp
#

you can hear if it's resonating

#

hint

#

it isn't

golden girder
#

But did you have a sound file of the Wooting before and after the mod?

#

This would be interesting...

lethal wasp
#

I just recorded it

#

naw

#

if memory serves it's like 50% quiet imo

wheat plume
#

(lowkey love your accent....)

lethal wasp
#

I knew you would

#

lmao

wheat plume
#

oh

#

xd

#

why?

lethal wasp
#

you brought it up in the first place

#

call it intuition

wheat plume
#

🤔

golden girder
#

I don't want to interrupt you two, but this conversation isn't tech related anymore. 😄

wheat plume
#

true

golden girder
#

@prisma crag Ask Wooting if you can get such a connector.

pale sigil
#

i hate it

lethal wasp
#

no like

#

it's the funniest video

#

I just posted it in the wrong channel when I wanted to link something else 😂

#

BWAH

#

plop

#

IT'S NOT THAT BAD

loud hemlock
#

i just switched from plasma to gnome 3.36 and it feels way faster than i remember somehow

#

also feels snappier than plasma tbh

wheat plume
#

Really??

#

Makes sense I guess
Gnome puts most of the desktop into ram so it's responsive af

#

That's why it uses so much ram

pale sigil
#

Plasma is pooop

wheat plume
#

Nuu

#

I love plasma

#

Is better for me because I love the stuff you can do in it

loud hemlock
#

Plasma is awesome but makes me not actually do anything useful

#

Because I spend more time tweaking it than actually using it

#

I switched to plasma because it was way faster than gnome like 2 yrs ago

#

But it's the other way around now

#

Idk if Wayland has anything to do with that though

wheat plume
#

Use the impatient extension on gnome
It speeds up the animations

loud hemlock
#

I am

wheat plume
#

Oohh

#

Ok

loud hemlock
#

That and dash to panel

#

Nothing else for now

wheat plume
#

I again use "always zoom workspaces"

#

Always*

#

Because it annoys me having them pop out when you want to nice a window to them

#

Move*

loud hemlock
#

Also it's cool how you don't need the shitty browser extension for extensions anymore

#

Or gnome tweaks

#

There's an actual extensions app. And you get them from gnome software

wheat plume
#

You still do to install them

#

I just use meta+numbers to swap worksspaces and meta+shift+number to move active window to workspace instead
@digital cliff I do that on plasma

#

Ayy

#

I can't figure out where the keybindings are for moving windows

#

So I haven't got that working yet and I miss it

#

No

#

Am considering it though

3.36 looks amazing

thick elk
#

My DE hopping days are kind of over for a while now. KDE seems to be where I stick.
It has most of what I need adn the things that don't work as great generally don't work better elsewhere.
As for moving windows by default there are no keybindings for that but you can set it yourself.

wheat plume
#

there are , the default is the alt key and drag with the mouse

#

and alt key + right clock to resize

thick elk
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oh that, I thought you where talking about snapping it to edges and corners

wheat plume
misty saffron
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that's some hideous font rendering ngl

wheat plume
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i dont like this theme

thick elk
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I just always end up back at breeze

wheat plume
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me too... -.- xd

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Breeze is nice but really boring

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there is no good dark theme for Plasma , thats the issue

thick elk
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oh I stick to breeze regular with ark window decorations

wheat plume
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I tend to remove the window decorations

thick elk
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you still keep the border though

wheat plume
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Trying to figure out how to change the color of the border

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pure white is dazzling on a dark theme

ashen spindle
thick elk
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hmm no border is actually pretty nice

wheat plume
crimson wigeon
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Try setting FF to the "Default" theme

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If it isn't already..

wheat plume
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ah, that worked.... but I dont remember changing this

old marlin
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so uhhhh

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why should anybody buy intel now?

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like the only product remaining is the VERY high end on laptops with desktop chips

ashen spindle
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To assist global warming

old marlin
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as long as nobody makes those with AMD chips

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lol

ashen spindle
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Especially on comet lake with „thermal velocity boosting“ aka 100W+ on your 35W CPU

old marlin
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lol

ashen spindle
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But yeah, cpu default option is now AMD, aside from special use cases, with gaming not being one of them

old marlin
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nope

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intel laptops just got DESTROYED

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like completely

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they hold 0 footing

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to achieve VERY slightly better performance they need over 100% more power

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so basically the most powerful laptop is either an Asus ZSephyrus G14, which is thin and light etc

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or an acer predator Helios 700, which is thick af and bulky

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or well, an alienware area 51m, which uses desktop intel CPUs

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and that is just raw performance

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battery life is obv MUCH better on the asus

ashen spindle
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And in around 4 months desktops will get decimated so hard nothing will be left where intel really can win

old marlin
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yea if we get the same improvement there intel has nothing in the desktop market anymore

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even what is known about the next gen won't help

ashen spindle
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My bet is R4K on 07.07 this year

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Unless corona hits TSMC hard

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Ryzen4000

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Literally just shortened one thing smh

old marlin
slender rain
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Desktop operation is serious business

thick elk
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There is also a thing with downclocking not working properly when using 3 or more monitors.

old marlin
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never had that issue before

slender rain
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But this issue keeps your clocks at max speed all the time

old marlin
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yea 2 monitors does the same thing

slender rain
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Are you sure this already happens with 2?

old marlin
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what?

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the low clocks

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yea

slender rain
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The clock speed issue

thick elk
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it's a different issue though

old marlin
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yea

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it is probably power management related

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sicne removing all power bricks increases clock speeds under laod

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to 1200-1300

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which still is below what it should run at