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sure but not at 240hz with decent specs
sorry tino unlike you we actually try to enjoy stuff sometimes
really? thought the only sub 1ms monitors were with shit overdrive so far?
not enough time for character development in a movie
nope
this was like BIS at the time
besides
BenQ tax
that's why you watch movies of a series where they can develop the characters 
1.5x actual value
are the end of the day you're buying a TN panel
fuck paying serious money for one
I mean that's why I said I want to see that stuff in a ips/va panel :p
I never said this is a good panel or anything
how dare you just destroy my dreams like that
grey to grey made it shit it's pants
everything else was fine
until the screen corrupted when cold
until I warmed it up
IPS is feasible
probably exists
sure but in dark rooms VA is still better for the most part imo
VA is INSANELY slow
there is no way
that it will ever be in a worthwhile gaming panel
OLED will become affordable
before VA is worth a wank for FPS
the 32GK850G is a nice va panel a coworker got recently, apparently its really nice, but hes not a shooter player so theres that
oh yeah true I forget about oled
it's great 90% of the time
yeah it's called OLED
get a TV then lol
you can get a 120hz OLED tv for like 1000 quid iirc
49 inch panels are coming soon
incase you want a crampt 4k tv
the 27GL850 is a great IPS if I remember the right reviews, only downside is in color accuracy dark rooms I think they said

how does anyone build a worthwhile pc for less than 4 figures in 2020
what case/psu?
nothing matters pog
yes
uhh psu not mattering is the number one mistake people do in pc building nowadays imo
state your units sweetie
usd/eur
there we go
where did braided cable kits go?
they existed for like
a month
and vanished forever
I had to just get cable extensions
not what I wanted to do
but no better alternative
hrm that looks like a nice panel but not 0.5ms gtg unless im looking at the wrong spot?
I posted a diff link
0.3ms claimed
but that's bs
they got 0.9ms in testing
monitor specs are complete toss anyways
they make a 240hz ips as well
acer are much fairer with their pricing usually
especially for this period of monitors that are half baked
Don’t even know what the other one costed, as I just saw the headline and want that in other panels on the future :p
Yesnt
computers are dinosaur tech kinda
Because good will always stay relative
I think TVs might bridge the gap eventually
tbh though
no one wants a tv under 50 inches these days
it's not as big as it sounds
you think you'd never find room for it
but even in my room I feel like I could have got a 55 and not felt bad about it
Just like variable refresh rate is obvious now to be a must have at some point, at some point in the past people didn’t even think about it so new feature will come up etc.
I think monitors and laptops will always be 5-10 years behind
keyboards/mice are entering endgame territory
headsets/usb mics have a long way to go
but what do you expect
normies won't pay real money for a headset
they want a mic, headphones and DAC/ADC for pennies
so it's all trash hardware
I expect the unexpected once x86 licenses run out if you ask that broadly :p
huh?
Sec trying to find an article
what the fuck
the C920 is sold out
literally the most common webcam in existance
is out of stock
I have one that's basically unused sat about
maybe I can get some £ on ebay when people scramble more
@lethal wasp I don't watch much tv shows but when I do, i just pirate them, yea
paying for 10 subs to different services makes no sense
when all i'd watch is one or two on each
hrm I cant find the article I had in mind
yeah then add HBO to watch GoT, add disney+ to watch the mandalorian, add hulu to watch south park
fuck that noise
I torrent the others
I just torrent all of them /shrug
besides, netflix in france is meh
in the UK atleast
basically, some x86 licenses expiring soon, a company called Nuvia being founded by ex intel/arm/appl etc. people to compete in server chip market where only ARM could try to get close to intel/amd previously
and I expect big changes there that cause ripples in the rest of the hardware economy
inb4 literally nothing happens like intel making gpus
nah they raised quite a lot of money and have people with actual tack records on board and not just good looking linkedin histories
the issues intel are having with gpu are due to what caused the 10nm issues, it's a continuation of the already existing issues, not them failing to enter a new segment
also fairly active in the public to whatever degree its possible with big announced plans https://twitter.com/jonmasters/status/1243396380674023425
The comments were valuable too - we really will try to do this right, and that includes engaging with the ecosystem around benchmarking and profiling systems without undue restrictions. I would love to hear more of your wishlist items for future server platforms! https://t.co...
well yes, but actually no
it will change what will drop down to the consumer, what amd/intel/nvidia make and thus size down for consumers if it's not a split IP etc
yes but you will most likely never get any of their products
but what will be on your chips/boards/in-output etc. will most likely changed based on stuff trickling down from that to consumer hardware
so no, in the near future nothing of that impacts you
well, there is a low chance new specs might come down to consumers a bit sooner, but that is imo not something that can be predicted unless you work in the field
AMD have already broken the stalemate in the segment
frankly our biggest issue is whether the USA burns china the the ground if this turns out to be biological warfare
Honestly considering their "handling" of it so far, this just proves the US wouldn't be able to survive a targeted attack 😄
We Division now boyz
this is based on the presumption that allies weren't given weaker strains to provide a defence
yes amd got back into server and is demolishing intel, but the only thing consumers get from this is ryzen cpus, which is nice and all but nothing new in the field
same instruction set, same way the layout on boards is etc.
you can have as many cores as you want with IPC soon to exceed intels
zen2 ipc is ahead of intel
if the clock speed isn't there then it's a bit scuffed
what I mean is, the "only" better thing we get from that is better cpu's and what they use
they still use x86/x64
a new architecture would require a new OS codebase and new languages, right?
what I mean is more stuff like the 12VO PSU stuff intel wants to introduce and such
well yesn't
sounds like you're looking decades ahead
hopefully I'll have a less sad hobby by then
unlike ARM they will be using some x86 instructions, which means adoption will be faster as they can plan around that
which is why it will not take as along as ARM did to gain relevancy
so relevant it doesn't enter conversation 😂
what exactly does that change?
12v cpus or what?
it ditches the 3.3 and 5v rails
uh, you misread I think, that psu has nothing to do with the rest I talked about
I just meant to say, something like that is what we will see as a consumer form this
bc that is the most recent changeup of the stagnant pc building space
I'd much rather see small scale oled
than a new cpu type
no amount of processing power is going to stop monitors looking shite
and being one of the biggest steps in the latency chain
1ms mice/keebs are here finally
who are you talking to?
we have tiny OLED (phones)
and BEEEEG OLED (TVs)
we just need medium scale
monitor tech wont be changed by it for sure, but I just think there's a good chance other stuff has a chance to get changed, it's hard to say because honestly the entire topic is way above my level but I think I can grasp what the implications of it could be for consumers
we literally have either end of the spectrum
also arn't OLED good for colour accurate work?
can't we just sell them for fuck off money to businesses?
and trickle them down to upper class gamers?
I think burn in is still a big concern for that
I'm sure they can build in fuckery that helps prevent it
with an opt out that voids your warrenty
luminosity is the enemy
dark themes save OLED lifespan
and energy
hey luminosity wasn't that bad :p
wut

oh the brain training meme
wait what
for ~2ish years I was part of an esports org called Luminosity that's why, not because some brain thing

TF2 team?
smite
🤢
tf2 I played but not top-top level
It's a first person game for one 😄
first person moba
push Q delete enemies
booooooooooooo
10/10
I can still hear my PC fans spinning x3
wut
I upgraded my 120mm fans to Be Quiet! brand, and theres still noise under my desk
fans are so annoying
thats awesome 😄
they have stupid names that aren't clear to their usage
oops you just bought a pressure boi
no airflow for you son
how many tens of kilo's does it weigh? x3
isn't the thickness of the thins staggeringly inefficient?
albeit at least it can be touched by human hands
I mean just lifting it without breaking it or cutting yourself
minecraft noplay sound ;-;
oh no that metal gets hot dont underestimate it lol
you'd want a forklift
not sure what it heatsoaks to externally
SCIENCE BITCH
our old science teacher told us to put something about increasing surface area if we didn't understand a question 😂
well no because it would just headsoak more without dissipation
it would just take a tiny bit longer to hit it's peak temp
just like water cooling vs air cooling
a higher temperature differential will pull heat away faster, no?
imagine if this was a chonk of solid copper lol
Ali is decently thermally conductive though iirc
it's used in triple ply cookware as a pseudo heatpipe
so you can warp it on your electric hob and go fucking ballistic
yay, different expansion rates >.>
some higher end PSUs are fanless up to a certain load
I think my EVGA G2 doesn't kick the fan if it's in eco mode
EVGA P2 would presumably generate even less heat
seasonic is EVGA's OEM
no big surprise
they are literally the best
seasonic are also marketing partners with wooting! good choice 😉
it's a mix I think
it's super flower for the range I'm talking about
EVGA has a very good rep anyways
I trust them 100x more than ASUS
no idea
they don't break 😂
only with asus
who kept sending me back my intermittent fault 5770
saying it's fine
reinstall
acts like a cunt
I don't recall the problem
it's a decade ago now
I know it drove me fucking insane though
I don't purchase on the premise of assuming I need to return an item
because I just never have had to
buy cheap buy twice
look for high praise and it's rarely an issue
doesn't that psu guru have a hard on for EVGA psus
an EVGA psu is in every enthusiast build
without question
except for the few that buy corsair because they own the shitty coolers/keyboards
I can't stand corsair as a company for some reason
yeah but the price is way higher
I'd rather own a real seasonic
but at the end of the day
it's a fucking power supply
and it's in an enclosure where I can't even see it
it's already 80+ gold/plat etc
it's just a good habit
and it's therapeutic
and almost certainly autistic 😂
I painted the tips of my exposed wires black
where the heat shrink ends
like on
usb headers etc
where they just don't give a fuck
look asshole, you have a 3.0 port directly next to the power button so you can push it when you blind insert a usb drive what else do you want? 😠
aight, I feel you fractal, don't even trip
anyways
evga are the only company that make gpus
that don't look like baby toys
I went from a flimsy MSI card
to an EVGA card
and it was like comparing a Bentley to a fiat
RED DOES NOT MEAN GAMING
STOP
PLEASE
SCHIIT EVEN DOES IT
LOOK IT GAYMER
or that new 4k webcam coming to market
I read that as "sand blast it"
me to
and thought, "Why the fuck would you sand blast it?"
do i need to bust out jurassic park references
AH AH AAAAA
"They spent so long thinking they could, instead of thinking they should."
sand blasting would be much more fun*
get one of those little electric hand sanders
sanding is quite possibly the worst activity
I can't stand it
I CAN'T SAND IT I TELL YOU
owo
I'm a budget lee mack
lol
buffer* 
I hate waxing cars too
give me that spray on SI02
wax can't get into seams 🤔
yeah I looked into detailing a bit too
there are some reasonable budget (relatively speaking) options
with something as expensive and delicate as paint
I'd rather go with trade certification
I can't believe how no one can understand just how soft paint is
I like to imagine the gloss layer like a paper thin tupperware container 😂
@icy sigil https://openbci.com/
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frankly our biggest issue is whether the USA burns china the the ground if this turns out to be biological warfare
@lethal wasp conspiracy theory aside, don't bank on that : https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1243407157321560071
Just finished a very good conversation with President Xi of China. Discussed in great detail the CoronaVirus that is ravaging large parts of our Planet. China has been through much & has developed a strong understanding of the Virus. We are working closely together. Much resp...
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yeah but he sometimes does an 180 on his opinion in the very next tweet, that doesnt mean much
wasn't he calling it kung flu?
probably
Zealencio Silencing Clips
there we go
Both bottom out and up stroke sounds are dampened while using Cherry profile keycaps. OEM/DSA/DCS/SA caps have the upstroke silenced only.
I thought China and America hate each other because of spying paranoia etc
inb4 the vaccine comes from either UK or China
meanwhile japan and russia are basically untouched somehow
nah russia has cases, but I think they just shot the people who coughed in those cities
probably assumed coughing was gay and culled them like usual
or its spreading in some rural areas of russia where they dont even know what they got bc internet is not a thing there
I'm still convinced that there are multiple strains
and that the UK is purposely infected with a safer version
like small pox and cow pox
eh, while I think its possible to have multiple strains of it going around, I think its other factors
like it was at first thought to affect male people much more than female
but that was because smoking is vastly more popular with chinese males
the point is every time pekin calls him he shits his pants and comes around
till he gets comfy again with insulting them
so if there's a war they'd just have to call him to stop it all
I wouldn't be surprised if this was an engineered cull
their government is as morally bankrupt as it gets
any country that slaughters passive protestors should be taken with more salt than a LOL final
While I do think that is possible I don't think it was spread on purpose, it would make much more sense to have an "accident" occur somewhere else if that is the plan
if it starts in a shit heap province then you can just blame your dirty, poor citizens
oh look these guys will eat anything for protein, we just can't stop them y'know
but this is hurting them more than the silly trade war with the us did
not when they are the ones providing medical supplies
having it happen on a different island or so would be much more effective to harm others and stay safe yourself
and probably vaccines later
inb4 they are sat on a vaccine already
and are waiting for a feasible timeframe to swoop in
you can't say you have an antidote faster than previous pandemic research has achieved in the past
I think something fishy is going on in the UK
well, you can because this strain is from I read not mutating heavily due to a self repairing mRNA so if you get something that works it will work for quite some time and dont need to finetune it for variations
I have a feeling there was two waves
but I have no degree in that field, so I could be way off
a weak virus delivered to us in early december or earlier
and cross contamination of the real one much later
just before the lockdown
I'm sure I've already had it but I can't get tested
despite working in a care home
it's a joke
over half the workers are convinced we've had it
yea the limited tests everywhere is a joke
the UK was the most complacent country to all this
we should be getting decimated
but we just arn't
and now boris has it 
or he just shows antibodies 🤔
inb4 a vaccine already exists
or an isolated strain like I said
think it got isolated in scottland last week? idk
too busy with not being busy in this quarantine to care about conspiracies
I'm on the front line too 🤷
no one is allowed in the kitchen and we only leave for breaks
driving me insane
have 6 people waiting at the door when I come in
asking for random supplies
all day
CAN I HAVE A SPOON?
dishwasher is dead too
which makes it 100x worse
running around handwashing everything getting interrupted with wet soapy hands
I forgot we are decanting industrial washing up liquid into fairy bottles
so I've got dermatitis again from washing my hands with it
to say it in the words I saw on twitter 2 minutes ago: "I swear we are fighting two pandemics
Covid 19 and Stupidity"
you know what
it really shows who the worthless cunts are
I think we should have a fake pandemic and people who act up get deported to a second australia
we had people getting mugged for toilet roll for fuck sake
spitting in faces
people need a shotgun to the back of the head fr
I wish we could force social media to be deactivated for a day
deactive people below a certain IQ lol
I hate the fact we paid idiots to breed for decades
because I can already see the april fools version of this year, recording fake coughs onto old people and claim it as april fools joke
we already have the tik tok version of it, corona-challenge where people lick toilet seats and handles in public transport
so its not new sadly
making me gag
corona is far from the worst thing you can get
in that instance
that's like
a best case
tfw countries with non aged populations are smug when it's just the fact we're all dying young
smooth brain logic
I love that insult so much
I just imagine lifting open someones head
and seeing two chicken fillets
https://www.razer.com/gb-en/gaming-accessories/razer-pbt-keycap-upgrade-set what profile are these?
Almost all gamer boards use OEM.
Keep in mind Razer and Corsair use non-"standard" bottom rows, so not fully Corsair compatible.
razer don't anymore
Oh?
ye
Nice - Now they just need to get rid of the rootkit drivers 😄
standard bottom row with removeable type c cable
those in glass houses 
wootility is light but it also has no features 😂
I don't work for Wooting, so hah! 😄
Though tbh I'd rather have few features than Chroma. It has messed up so many systems.
no you work for free 😂
shorter keys = less wobble because math iirc?
I thought that's like the only reason people care about cherry profile?
So... grab you some low profile laptop keys 😄
with mx stems?
cherry profile doesn't top out with zilencio clips somehow
in that diagram it looks almost the same
probably matters more for top mount?
are the switches mounted lower in those dishy cases?
I don't know the terminology tbf
I'm not a keeb guy really
like
the keys can be countersunk
like old office keyboards
instead of floating
I imagine the floating design is slightly taller by nature
oh really?
pcb height can vary though I guess?
like
I can't screw my pcb down anymore in my wooting one :/

every single standoff is stripped out
how can you even crossthread plastic
it doesn't hold a thread
it just mushes up
it's one and done
that's why we have metal liners usually
fuck that
they are TINY self tapping screws
going into very soft plastic
I'm not a lock picking god
it's been apart a good few times
probably atleast 5 times
another reason I wanted a metal housing
aside from side stepping the silly mods to make a plastic one servicable
no
it's actually lighter than wooting somehow
despite having stabs on EVERY KEY

there's no sound variation between hitting anywhere on each key tbf
which is cool
it does do something
but it's huge overkill
much less practical than still have pepega 20ms debounce
which I'm sure some crackheads can out pace
Yes g pro wireless fits the tag „best“
@prisma crag GPW does have mirrored side buttons
Viper ultimate is superior in hardware, logitech is better in software
still it's pretty close, although u have to buy custom grips for GPW
i really need monitor stand
or well the clamp thing
because right now my monitors are like this
id rather have my left monitor in landscape like this
tis handy. That's how my right monitor is
I only use it for discord though lol
I keep my PC on the ground cause it's ugly and the case is like 10+ years old with battle scars
i cant
otherwise i would
Cleaning up atm
But as you can see
It's cramped rn
And if I choose to have my monitor at the center I can't see my left monfor
Monitor
Step 1: transplant to an ITX form factor build
Step 2: get an ultrawide monitor
Step 3. PROFIT
itx is my dream build
Step 4: buy an Ikea desk
ughhh looks like u found it in the dumpster
This is what itused to look likehttps://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/linnmon-adils-table-black-brown-black-s49932670/
well, they dont offer this material anymore
asll i need to do is buy one of these tbh
i could just re use the legs
well
the 150cm one
i have alex draws and a solid wood kitchen tabletop
think they discontinued it tho
damn
yeah my pc case was 300 euro alone
that looks like decent quality wood
my pc build is 2000+
desk total cost me around 250
im to poor
xD
i got this desk when i was in college
with 0 income
and its done me great
i wish i got a desk when i was getting money during uni
i sanded and stained my desk
i'm poor too i just have a nice setup
that will become even better with a Lekker
i literally used all my money via uni
to get everything i wanted
and im happy i did
im poor af now but ihave everything i want
its a good place to be till i sort my shit out
uni seems like a scam lol
but thats coming from a highschool dropout
i will try to get back to college one day
it is a scam
living on campus and all that jazz isn't really my cup of tea
it depends on the subject, IT you can somewhat learn online yourself, good luck getting something akin to a chemisty degree with only publicly availible chemicals lmao
i never lived on campus
i may pursue a computer science degree
i spent 5 hours a day travelling 
Computer science is soooooooooooo boringggggggggggggg
@ashen spindle just ask Walter White lmfao
I mean I started a chemistry degree before switching to programming so I can just ask myself :p
chemistry degree doesn't seem to have much immediate uses unless you plan to run a meth lab
but meth is not a widely used drug in UK
uh I mean it's a hard requirement to work at any chemical company if you want to go above basic lab jobs where they train their own people, research etc.
chemical company 😐
i think a degree that can benefit Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence is a good one
probably computer science
that area for sure just because of all the math classes and having direct contact to people who know how to explain that and teach it is not something you can find on the internet really
I'm not good with maths =/
then learning it via classes should be much better than online by yourself
that's fine
i just need to get 3 GCSE's first before i can pursue a higher education course
eh
Wot
Just go to College
Get your UCAS points or A Levels
Oh wait nvm
Eng, Math and Science.
yeah lol
don't ask me how old i am 😄
K
92 years old...
reversed
Chem degree is one of the recommended degrees for pre-med
at least in the US I assume it's similar elsewhere
uh no, here you study medicine if you want to go the med route, the needed chemistry, bio classes etc. are in that degree
So you go to college for medicine instead of going for a degree and then going to medical school?
well no not really, med school usually is part of universities here, so you just go to different classrooms that the law students for example
Interesting. We have specific colleges for things like law and medicine here.
Typically it can be the same school name but entirely different schools
If that makes sense
depending on size of the city/uni some just have more or less degree choices
I think you can go to medical school without a bachelors here but it's not common
You still have to have what they call "pre-med" classes under your belt though
it takes the same time here, you just dont do a random bachelor, you do a specific one
also we dont really have the whole campus thing here so universities aren't really limted in space, the big one we have here has multiple buildings stretched over quite some area for different faculties
We have sub-sets I think. Like Chem, Bio, or Phys with specific class requirements. Some Natural science requirements. Then you have to be accepted into med school and do you 4-5 years there
I see, interesting.
only when you host?
upload could just be shit
nvm I didnt read the last sentence
what router/modem do you have?
retarded router f/w/settings/nat/firewall
have you done a tracert to your friends ip to check if it's just terrible routing?
what DNS server do you use
and try doing the tracert to your friends ip
I mean.. is there cable from your router to the wall
😮
bad route is first hop of over 1ms
that or if in the middle it hops to 100+
yes that should be fine
just make sure to not post the full tracert into chat later unless you want to dox someone lmao
see if yu can access the settings and turn off settings related to gaming like flood detection, nat, firewall etc and turm em off
and update fw
also wait, your router has a sim card, I need to read up on that lmao
its a 3g or 5g router
woops. ye. 3g/4g wireless
can you ping your local google site or so as comparison
bc that looks like a shit connection
uh tracert, not ping ofc
your connection is bad
yea
40ms is ok for LAN
u said u get 200ms so your routers are fucked
change your router settings and that should work
well it is
So what settings is the SIM using if its in your phone?
Your router's I assume, still...
I think the SIM is connected to the router which is a hotspot with a bigger antenna for wireless comms
cos its using your routers instead of steam servers which are configured properly and are better hardware
got to CMD
and type ipconfig
Default Gateway
its usually 192.168.1.1
do ip addr and perhaps ip route
see if u can turn on bridging, disable firewall, check flood detection and other gaming settings
NAT for example
Not necessarily
it checks every packet and might get swamped with small packets especially in gaming related network traffic
same for NAT which is why you turn Bridging on in shittier routers
My guess is that 4G connection, plenty of people using it probably getting shaped in a nasty way, but if it's only P2P a crazy idea would be to perhaps tunnel through a VPN
Just a guess but since you're playing via p2p and one of you is hosting, have you portforwarded each other's routers?
😮
or whitelisted..
this is how u fix internet issues
turn off all settings in router
if that dont fix curse and call ISP
I wouldn't wish wireless internet on my worst enemy. Externally that is.
Just lay down some fibre and use reindeer to extend it through the woods.
If there is a silver lining about covid... it'll make companies push for stable, strong internet a lot more, since we're unlikely to get entirely back to office attendance. Now that more and more companies are run remote, they get a taste for it.
For sure.
I had to get a second desk to work from home remotely efficient.
If I'm on my main PC, I tend to zone out and faff about on social media without noticing.
Saving two hours of commute every day is definitely a cool thing.
I'd be very open to having more of a virtual office space, where you can kind of VR esque go to someone's desk and poke em
I mean... an hour each way every day is pretty common?
Mine was within walking distance. Very convenient. Grocery shop on the way home 😄
didn't someone else want an ANSI layout with a pound sign?
Isnt it everywhere?
that's the pound sign
please do not look at it @fallow bison it is not for you, but 18+

sorry @fallow bison i'll put a +18 sign before it
yes Quinn thanks
🤔
@wheat plume spare a pound(ing) for @fallow bison ?
he needs toilet paper and is willing
😛
:')
spread the love and the cheeks 😄
youre not helping me Quinn
same
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
am I the prophet of the latency gods? only time will tell
yup
with videos
and I said the apple keeb had a scanrate of 50khz in 1980s
what gives
and linked the article to it
I got the 3310 smoothing fixed on the mionix avior
back when I was an OCN tard
before the great purge of placebo PC tweaks
that being said I could tell the difference in 5ms latency increments back in the day
but it was headache inducingly difficult to tell
I got like 21/25 samples or something
is 5G expensive to implement in phones or just brand taxed?
it does cost more, not just brand taxed
5G basically has 3 different implementations, the short range that gets blocked by a piece of paper but has really high speeds if it isn't blocked
idk what the 3rd one does, but the other one is on a longer wave so it can be used for rural areas for example because it reaches much further and isnt blocked as easily, but doesnt offer the same extreme speeds as milimeter wave 5g does
the big issue is big telco advertising it as one thing that does everything to sell more phones with it
chicken/egg nobody is spending millions to upgrade if nobody uses it, so they first need to get phones out that can use it, even if nothing is there yet
on the best 4G signal possible, what is the maximum and mimimum speeds?
idk ask wikipedia
O.o
the max I get is 16mb/s
wow
even in the middle of Dublin I only got 16 down
and 4 up
meanwhile I barely use my phone so I have it set to only use 3G to save battery lmao
not once have I used LTE
so I'll probably skip from 3 to 5g at some point haha
pfft, sometimes I'm even on EDGE, bet you dont even have that
edge is basically 2.75G that nobody uses moutside germany I thought lmao
I wouldn't be surprised if that's still all you get if you really go out in the middle of nowhere
Or perhaps even.. GPRS
I thought there you owuld just get gprs but not edge
4g in Ireland is fake 4G
even with a router and a cable I have not seen anyone with connection faster than 70mb/s
2 of my uncles have fiber, my aunt has a cable
and my friend has fiber too
im not that far from a tower in my student housing because there is a tech park nearby
there are 3 of them in that area
but idk if my phone has the bands they work from
they use bands 3 and 20
ooohh
idk what much of this stuff means but it it says that band name is 3
band number*
it seems the closest tower to me is about 20KM away
yup
wow
...
even at my student house I dont get above 16 down
@lethal wasp The USB specification only allow 500 mA max, the Wootings are "close" to it.
does the lekker require more or less power?
I had a rought discussion about the whole USB-C here with multiple people. No one belived me that only the connector on the Wooting 2 was the problem. So I dive into the USB cable specification find the problem, created a demo connector and proved that in the end I was right all along.
Hmm, I don't know but from all the things I heared I would say yes. But Wooting says that's around the same.
So the hall effect sensore should not use much energy compared to the infrared LEDs. But the LEDs for the RGB stuff are bigger and brighter.
I suppose they can drive them harder with the extra available power in 3.0 spec
No, they still just use USB 2.0.
so its best to plug the wooting two into USB 2?
doesn't matter in theory
It doesn't matter.
unless one usb controller is performing better somehow
sometimes 3.0 ports act buggy with 2.0 devices I've found
You can't use a USB-C to C cable on the W2 due to the used connector.
hmmm, I think the ports in the front of my PC are usb 2
but the back ones my keyboard and mouse are in are 3
The problem with USB 3.X is because of driver issues.
No...
USB has different transport types, there is an interrupt type / mode but it's not a hardware interrupt like on PS/2.
A lot of USB 3.X ports are handled via additional / separate controller on the motherboard. So it can happen that the driver built-in in the OS isn't the correct one which should be used and because of this it can be that there are problems.
Because of this it's recommended to use the drivers which are offered from the mainboard vendor.
The Wootings are using an Atmel MCU which only support USB 2.0 with full speed (12 Mbit/s). As far as I know the Lekker is using the same or a similar one.
To be able to officially get more than 500 mA you would need enhanced speed or support power delivery. Both would be bad to support on a keyboard.
That's why some vendors are using multiple ports on their products.
I wonder if that is truly a problem is this day and age.
I mean... It's pretty hard to track down a PC that has USB2 to begin with aside from legacy front ports?
Especially in the gamer space. You'd be hard pressed to find a ... what... 2nd gen Intel era machine with predominantly USB2 ports 😄
Vendors typically cover more, like up to 900 mA. But again this is out of spec and no company should expect that all controller can handle that.

The controller are coved by a constant-current diode if I remember it right. So if proper implemented it should just don't provide more power.
But if not something can burn and so destroy the USB controller or the whole PCB and so the motherboard.
I'm sure you're right. Electrical engineering is a bit above my head. I just hear "USB 2 fallback" and think "But... USB2 isn't really a thing anymore. Everyone's gotta have USB3 as a minimum, if not one of the countless later upgrades" 😄
I still have a PC here with USB 2.0 ports
But the problem with the higher power on USB 3 is that you are only allow to draw it when you are using a USB 3 chip, meaning enhanced speed (> 450 MByte/s) which is total useless for a keyboard in any way.
Also my PC at work should have USB 2.0 ports too
Even some modern boards have often still some 2.0 ports.
Do you GAME on your work PC though? I'm not saying you can't find USB2 in the wild, but any PC should have predominantly USB3 today. Even on the front with cheap cases moving to USB3 headers years ago. 🙂
To be fair though I built gaming PCs - Not work ones. But the Wooting is a gaming grade board, so it makes sense to focus on that group.
Easier and less prone to errors.
I considered using the wooing two on my work PC ^^
Anyhoo - If it can be done with USB2 then no point in using USB3. If the board can't be utilized fully to its potential, then a USB3 only approach seems obvious 😄
Sure are.
Either ones slotted into PCI-E, or just dummy boards that use the motherboard's spare (if any) USB3 header and bring it out back.
Again, having USB 3 support for any input device would be more than a overkill. I don't even know of a single keyboard supporting high speed (480 Mbit/s).
It was
Personally I'm not overly bothered - But I would definitely love to be able to do C to C, since I have several C ports on my PCs 😄
Yeah, but this would add much more cost and complexity just for power. And in addition it would restrict a lot.

You can do USB-C to C if you are using multiple adapters.
The problem with the W2 is the missing handling of the CC pins. USB-A and B don't have this so the cable must provide it.
That's why there is no problem with the used cable for the W2. So by daisy chaining multiple adapters it would work.
If you are using the correct ones!
Or if you inject power from somethere else, but I wouldn't recommend this because if you do something wrong (wrong voltage or different ground) it can break something.
I hope Wooting will offer the corrected USB connector together with a cable as an upgrade kit some day. So a W1 can be upgraded and the W2 can be fixed.
What does any of that mean?
What exactly?
yyour last message
You can swap the connector of the Wootings, the part that is connected to the PCB and provide the hole for the USB cable.
So that instead of a micro-B connector the W1 has a C connector like the W2.
hmmm
@lethal wasp You can try to ask Wooting for a connector, maybe they can offer you one. And if a lot of people ask for it they maybe will offer it in general.
🤔
rip lol
500g, heavy...
Hmm, I think the most noice came from the reflection of the metal top plate and not the empty housing.
So I can't really imagine that this helps a lot...
Vocaroo is a quick and easy way to share voice messages over the interwebs.
mic on top of keyboard
like 5 inches away
sends only the sound of keypresses instead of voice
Vocaroo is a quick and easy way to share voice messages over the interwebs.
unmodified huntsman te for comparison
Without a direct comparison with my it don't really help.
But did you have a sound file of the Wooting before and after the mod?
This would be interesting...
https://voca.ro/lXTYIxMCPp1 @wheat plume
Vocaroo is a quick and easy way to share voice messages over the interwebs.
I just recorded it
naw
if memory serves it's like 50% quiet imo
(lowkey love your accent....)
🤔
I don't want to interrupt you two, but this conversation isn't tech related anymore. 😄
true
@prisma crag Ask Wooting if you can get such a connector.
no like
it's the funniest video
I just posted it in the wrong channel when I wanted to link something else 😂
BWAH
plop
IT'S NOT THAT BAD
i just switched from plasma to gnome 3.36 and it feels way faster than i remember somehow
also feels snappier than plasma tbh
Really??
Makes sense I guess
Gnome puts most of the desktop into ram so it's responsive af
That's why it uses so much ram
Plasma is pooop
Plasma is awesome but makes me not actually do anything useful
Because I spend more time tweaking it than actually using it
I switched to plasma because it was way faster than gnome like 2 yrs ago
But it's the other way around now
Idk if Wayland has anything to do with that though
Use the impatient extension on gnome
It speeds up the animations
I am
I again use "always zoom workspaces"
Always*
Because it annoys me having them pop out when you want to nice a window to them
Move*
Also it's cool how you don't need the shitty browser extension for extensions anymore
Or gnome tweaks
There's an actual extensions app. And you get them from gnome software
You still do to install them
I just use meta+numbers to swap worksspaces and meta+shift+number to move active window to workspace instead
@digital cliff I do that on plasma
Ayy
I can't figure out where the keybindings are for moving windows
So I haven't got that working yet and I miss it
No
Am considering it though
3.36 looks amazing
My DE hopping days are kind of over for a while now. KDE seems to be where I stick.
It has most of what I need adn the things that don't work as great generally don't work better elsewhere.
As for moving windows by default there are no keybindings for that but you can set it yourself.
there are , the default is the alt key and drag with the mouse
and alt key + right clock to resize
oh that, I thought you where talking about snapping it to edges and corners
that's some hideous font rendering ngl
i dont like this theme
I just always end up back at breeze
me too... -.- xd
Breeze is nice but really boring
there is no good dark theme for Plasma , thats the issue
oh I stick to breeze regular with ark window decorations
you still keep the border though
Trying to figure out how to change the color of the border
pure white is dazzling on a dark theme
materia dark is a nice theme
got a nice GTK theme also
aand its time to report another murder, intel laptop chips are getting killed now, after Xeons got slaughtered by Epyc https://www.pcworld.com/article/3534769/ryzen-4000-review-amds-7nm-ryzen-9-offers-game-changing-performance-for-laptops.html
hmm no border is actually pretty nice
ah, that worked.... but I dont remember changing this
welp, imma look online
aha! found them
so uhhhh
why should anybody buy intel now?
like the only product remaining is the VERY high end on laptops with desktop chips
To assist global warming
Especially on comet lake with „thermal velocity boosting“ aka 100W+ on your 35W CPU
lol
But yeah, cpu default option is now AMD, aside from special use cases, with gaming not being one of them
nope
intel laptops just got DESTROYED
like completely
they hold 0 footing
to achieve VERY slightly better performance they need over 100% more power
so basically the most powerful laptop is either an Asus ZSephyrus G14, which is thin and light etc
or an acer predator Helios 700, which is thick af and bulky
or well, an alienware area 51m, which uses desktop intel CPUs
and that is just raw performance
battery life is obv MUCH better on the asus
And in around 4 months desktops will get decimated so hard nothing will be left where intel really can win
yea if we get the same improvement there intel has nothing in the desktop market anymore
even what is known about the next gen won't help
My bet is R4K on 07.07 this year
Unless corona hits TSMC hard
Ryzen4000
Literally just shortened one thing smh
how do you fuck up a vbios that hard?
Desktop operation is serious business
There is also a thing with downclocking not working properly when using 3 or more monitors.
never had that issue before
But this issue keeps your clocks at max speed all the time
yea 2 monitors does the same thing
Are you sure this already happens with 2?
The clock speed issue
it's a different issue though