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#🔌│tech
reef patrol
old marlin
should be 2-3 weeks
cedar glen
On aliexpress atm? good luck with that
old marlin
the yare only good for no pretravel
fair gull
the g100s is no pretravel
cedar glen
I have orders that are blocked since xmas
reef patrol
I sure need to login 😛
fair gull
anyway i have had the last set of the switches i bought now for 2 years
cedar glen
the only way to get stuff from china fast is through amazon, as they started having the orders delivered to them then using their own service to get them to people's homes
fair gull
and since i only replace 2 every 2years they last me like 30years
theoretically
no wait
idk they last way too long
cedar glen
there's a french website that lists interesting deals online, and basically anything from china comes with a 3 month shipping time warning from other buyers at this point
wheat plume
@fair gull I can't handle how far to the left the status bar is -.-
I know when you are actually looking at the phone it's fine but gosh damn it's frustrating in screenshots
latent mural
im getting wary ordering anything from china right now incase of the virus
wheat plume
I would be too honestly
cedar glen
pop bubblewrap from chinese product
it contains chinese air
die
reef patrol
neat oriole
@pale sigil yeah the Apple dongle is pretty good
Mic input not bad either
Probably better than a lot of PC on-boards
neat oriole
You bought the type c one right
neat oriole
Nice
Yeah the dongle is like the go to recommendation for people on very tight budgets
Also you’re in the Uk right?
pale sigil
ye i heard
about US vs EU dongle
but atm i cant afford to get one shipped from the US :/
neat oriole
They must have some hifi shop that carries sennheiser
pale sigil
Im using gift card balance for this
i have a dac
im just curious is all
i have the scarlette pro still
neat oriole
I mean they have them in the apple store
You could just buy from there
As I was saying, you should probably listen to the HD650 before you try to get a 6XX
pale sigil
@neat oriole The US version is a bit better than the UK one
neat oriole
Shouldn’t it be the same?
neat oriole
Are they made in different factories or something
pale sigil
Fuck knows
cedar glen
That's for plebs, real elite just throws the earbuds when the charge is over
reef patrol
ashen spindle
ez
just dont use phone
oh yeah I use ones with cable
headphones at home last for an entire day but cant really carry a base station an power outlet around lel
yea no im sticking to using the apple earbuds that came with my 6s
fair gull
how much is that in real units
fickle ore
NOT WORTH
fair gull
those must be donuts that grand u a shit ton more than just filling ur stomach
zenith sonnet
This the first time I hear of CDNA
50% performance improvement over RDNA with RDNA2
I'd like to see
latent mural
I can't wait to sell my 2080 and rejoin Team AMD with RDNA2
much preferred Adrenaline over Nvidia's bloatware
sucks... guess i'll have the 2080 for another year
adrenaline is very light compared to GFE and it's very nice
nice to know big navi will have raytracing for cyberpunk
too much bloat software!
2020 will be the year when 4k PC gaming becomes viable
my next big upgrades will be big navi paired with a 4k 34" ultrawide 100hz+ monitor. not interested in 38" monitors with UWQHD
the trend towards 38" monitor without 4K is very annoying
I need this with 100+hz https://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-34WK95U
i never heard of G7
google says thats only 16:9 aspect ratio
G9 is 49" ... utterly stupid
dont think many people will spend thousends of a 49" monitor when they could buy a TV
Samsung are derps
Guess i'll keep my trusty ASUS MX34VQ for awhile yet until monitor technology catches up with GPU technology
seems to be a couple of years behind
it's really quite pathetic considering we're into 2020
2020 sounds like so futuristic and shit but lot's of things are still so low tech is depressing
it's why I support alternate technologies like Wootings Lekker
torpid forum
latent mural
@torpid forum DisplayPort 2.0 should make it possible hopefully the new GPU's coming later this year have it
DisplayPort 2.0 specification allows for resolutions up to an amazing 16K along with higher refresh rates — all thanks to a near-tripled bandwidth over DisplayPort 1.4
Crank the resolution down to 3,840 × 2,160 (4K) to get 144Hz at 24 bpp. No compression required.
HDMI 2.1 can also support 120Hz at 4K UHD
We need atleast HDMI 2.1 for some good monitors to be made
Of course you can save yourself waiting several years for those amazing ultrawides to be made and buy yourself a new TV that supports those new bandwidths but I prefer gaming at my desk and having a 50 inch screen on my desk is not workable. Although I already own a 55" TV but i don't use for gaming.
Then Nvidia jumps into the picture and blurs the lines of what's a TV and a Monitor with their big format gaming displays
I may just upgrade my TV in 2020 to enjoy the likes of Cyberpunk on
I have an entry level OLED from 2017 but it's still amazing watching netflix
could do with some more brightness
pretty much all the high end TV's in 2020 will feature HDMI 2.1
ones with Variable Refresh Rate will be good to game on
TV's have come a long way in that regard, most have a "game-mode" and soon will have an Auto low-latency mode
BFGD will fail
like Nvidia Shield
I believe TV manufacturers are now starting to take gamers seriously as the industry has eclipsed both the movie and music industry
I'd buy a motorcycle if I had somewhere to store it. Too much of a risk for theft keeping it on the street when compared to a car.
But I am considering renting a lockup and buying a Jetski for the summer
$14,000 but that's for a 85"
I'm sure you'll be able to get a 2020 TV that has HDMI 2.1 Variable Refresh Rate and Auto low-latency for under $3000
that can get you a great 55" TV unless you need a supersized one
CES 2020 TV's while they didn’t offer revolutionary features they all had two things in common: Better picture quality and HDMI 2.1 support
I'm going to hold of on any large tech purchase until January 2021 see where things are and get sale price
@prisma crag I'll be forced to when my 2017 OLED eventually burns in
Market predictions are MicroLED shipments will rise from under 1000 this year to 15.5m by 2026
Samsung will be the market leader in MLED
fickle ore
Does anyone know whether PVC/PE plastics reacts to sulfuric acid?
fickle ore
well
I can hardly avoid it ;D
ground pH is 1.7 (due to sulfuric acid) which is then diluted by rainwater..
ashen spindle
I know concentrated sulfuric will just eat eat like it eats basically everything
But my chemistry degree time is too far back in the past to remember more
zenith mirage
It'll stain the wood I think
Remember somebody telling me they use it to give wood a certain look
latent mural
I'm scared it will form nitrocellulose which is major component in dynamite
" Nitrocellulose is an explosive compound produced by the reaction of cellulose and nitric acid, or other strong nitrating agent. "
wood is cellulose
fickle ore
don't blow up lol
ashen spindle
What metal are you trying to get rid of is important to know if that acid even works
reef patrol
old marlin
how high does a stock 2080 clock?
around 1800 boost from what I got
dunno how much gpu boost does to that
might have a golden sample in my laptop then lol
1950-2000 at 75 degrees
can't even set a power target with my vbios
reef patrol
😄
fair gull
@old marlin a stock 2080 non fe does 1700
2080 fe and 2080 super both do a bit more than 1800
old marlin
yea dunno how it goes with boost though
like stock boost is usually ~1800-1900
but idk what gpu boost does with that
ok laptop didn't like 1.2v all core 4.9 ghz
crashed when I stopped the benchmark lol
old marlin
yea obv
mine limits itself at 75 degrees lol
but holds ~2ghz at that
I mean all cards are thermally locked
but more in a sense that they stop clocking higher when temps rise
rtg?
oh
well
radeon technologies group hasn't existed for very long yet lol
fiji was alright wdym
at release at least
well after drivers settled
performance was alright
fury was jsut non existant
tim?
oh
lol
btw @reef patrol 9700k at 1.15V all core 4.79 GHZ
thermals aren't great but running stock thermal paste atm
will replace it 
probably yea
old marlin
ye sure
I have 3 years of warranty, but I don't think that LM gets covered by "accidental damage"
old marlin
I mean you can LM a laptop
I just don't think it is necessary
GPU doesn't throttle at all because of it
even under combined load
my main goal is to get the CPU less toasty
which is entirely possible
the cooler was designed for a 9900k after all
fickle ore
ah I'll not comment further.. I only know PC
old marlin
I mean I would still be on PC
but I get to use my powerful laptop from work privately
since it basically doesn't matter what I do with it as long as I don't infect it
?
you mean like fully developed by intel retail board?
for end consumers
somebody there had an NH-D14
latent mural
@ashen spindle steel
cedar glen
@prisma crag heh, funny that, my first "real" build was in 2012 with a 3570k :p
old marlin
@prisma crag SR-3 pls
insane board, too bad it is an inferior platform
asus is terrible ngl
CH7 installed bloatware upon boot
yea
by trying to force me to download opera and kaspersky
no thanks
x570 aorus extreme looks good imo
pricy though
reef patrol
Forcing you to.... wat?
zenith sonnet
I so wish I would have gotten the Xtreme instead of the Master in retrospect :(
old marlin
from the motherboard
reef patrol
I have... literally never heard of anything like that 😄
zenith sonnet
Anyone wanna buy an X570 Aorus Master or two?
old marlin
lol
btw asus did the same thing on some Z390 mobos
it is shitty, especially for the top of the line boards
reef patrol
Did WHAT. I still don't follow 😄
zenith sonnet
But damn, the board is good
zenith sonnet
RAM is still running 14-13-13-21 without hiccups
old marlin
same applies to the crosshair 7
zenith sonnet
3666
reef patrol
What ASUS did seems pretty damn useful.
old marlin
that updater also tried to download opera and kaspersky for me
like imo the dowloader already goes a step to far, but I can see it's usefulnes
but then dowloading some random crap is way too far
especially kaspersky
reef patrol
Razer, Logitech and a ton of others do the same.
Having basic drivers included FROM The mobo is pretty neat.
old marlin
razer and logitech don't directly install russian spyware when I plug one of their devices on my computer
old marlin
especially when drivers can be pushed via win 10 updates
not like that
like I get an updater
reef patrol
Can't push drivers if you have no internet access.
reef patrol
It does though
old marlin
it just installs a downloader for drivers
reef patrol
And an ethernet controller driver
reef patrol
Only if they actually have the driver in the USB.
old marlin
so completely useless on the single relevant OS for that feature
reef patrol
Which is often not guaranteed 😄
old marlin
could use it without the drivers
reef patrol
I have had to manually grab drivers on a secondary PC many times in the Z370/Ryzen era.
reef patrol
I mean - I do it for work, so it had to happen more frequently 😄
old marlin
mostly the same single r5 3600 system
which replaced the same single r5 2600 system
and so on
and intel was just servers lol
like I get pushing drivers
don't like it personally but I can totally tolerate it
but trying to force kaspersky on my computer is just bad
reef patrol
This being said - It is of course not okay if AMD or a vendor push third party programs onto your PC and install them without consent. If there's an installer for Opera? Fine. If Kaspersky suddenly finds itself installed is not okay. And EU illegal 😄
old marlin
well kaspersky not only is very likely spyware it also directly impacts your security
no matter if it actually is spyware or no
old marlin
installer
not auto install
but it is preselected when offering you to download drivers
most users would just click "ok"
reef patrol
So is Razer and Logitech tbh.
And I might not want Razer just because it found a razer mouse 😄
old marlin
and have already negatively impacted the security of their new system
yea I get that
also shitty
cedar glen
razer and logitech don't directly install russian spyware when I plug one of their devices on my computer
@old marlin member when razer first launched their memecoin and installed it + activated it without warning users ?
old marlin
but that doesn't disable windows defender
reef patrol
Neither does an uninstalled Kaspersky 😄
old marlin
like I said not defending those
reef patrol
Or rather - Not yet installed*
old marlin
yea
it shouldn't be an option to get some random antivirus with your 300$ mobo
especially if all antivirus software on the market atm is crap
I hate to have to uninstal mcaffee on basically every prebuilt system in existance
but it is a necessary step to not only prevent it annoying users but also actually keeping systems safer
knowing why a 300$ mobo wants to install it makes it even worse
well yea same
but antivirus software is THE worst preinstalled software
besides maybe killer drivers 
cedar glen
insert McAfee uninstall video here
antivirus software is the bane of my existence when I have to repair people's PCs
old marlin
my mouse software only screams in my ear that I got a new achievment if I forget to disable it on install
tbh
atm
just yeet it
windows defender is one of the best on the market atm anyways
and anything is bypassed
cedar glen
"why is my 4 year old laptop so slow ?"
Gee I dunno miss, maybe cause it's 4 years old, has 2 gigs of ram, has avira AND McAfee both installed and you updated it to win10 on top of all that
cedar glen
oh god you have a savu ?
old marlin
yup
cedar glen
how many days did it survive ?
cedar glen
huh
old marlin
like I said, not swarm
cedar glen
that's easy to fix Locke : just add the folder to the windefender exceptions
old marlin
and both this and swarm look old af but snappy
well they are developing a new software suite
thankfully
cedar glen
Szarm doesn't have that issue
old marlin
and this time completely in house in germany
not sure if that speaks for software quality though lol
yea
cedar glen
I have had good experiences with older roccat mice like the orignal Kone and the Kone [+] but my friend has got 3 Savus that failed on him one after one month of use each (RMA'd twice and on the third he just got a refund)
old marlin
oof
cedar glen
I also got a Tyon that stopped working after 6 months
old marlin
atm they are probably the highest build quality lol
cedar glen
Done with that brand
cedar glen
plus now they got bought by Turtle Beach
cedar glen
there's other non-mice roccat products I have had issues with, tho
fair gull
"gaming"
old marlin
well
fair gull
is just a buzzword by now
old marlin
"gaming"
cedar glen
twas a membrane one tbh
old marlin
yea
don't
no logitech, razer or wahtever
and I don't say that as a wooting shill
but as a person that likes nice keyboards
cooler master haydays are over
cedar glen
eh idk, my CK550 is serving me well
old marlin
funny thign abotu the tyon is that they made the leader
which looks to be identical, but wireless
but instead of reusing the old molds they completely redesigned EVERYTHING
cedar glen
the leadr runs on swarm and has more issues, btw
cedar glen
connectivity
old marlin
I know the tyon has some sensor related ones
rip
haven't heard of that
usually it is distance of mouse to receiver on wireless mice
the gamingfocused ones don't ike mroe than a meter of distance
@prisma crag should have gotten EC1 lol
at least no skoll lol
ehhh
zowie "matte"
cedar glen
tyon sensor was fine imo, the issue was build quality, as the mold was EXREMELY shitty, where it presses on the primary click buttons
Like, the switches were perfectly fine when I removed the housing of the mouse, but the plastic that clicks on them just gave way
cedar glen
so that's prolly why they redid the molds
old marlin
they didn't only redo the molds but all the files as well
the actual parts are shaped differently
maybe you got a clone lol
cedar glen
off of amazon? :o
cedar glen
it had a valid S/N
old marlin
amazon warehouse inventory is shared with all resellers that use it
well unlikely then
rip
fair gull
all working again
pale sigil
What was wrong with it
reef patrol
It had clicking issues I believe Tiny said the other day
reef patrol
😄
fair gull
6euros if id only ordered those 3
i ordered enough for another like 8 years of repairing
better than paying 30euros for a new g100s if i can even find one
wheat plume
Soooooooooooooooo
I fucked up earlier
I was uninstalling bloatware from my phone using ADB on my laptop
and I wanted to remove the phone app that was installed by default that I never use so I removed com.android.phone thinking it was that BUT NOOO it wasnt -.- that was the FREAKING PHONE SYSTEM
rebooted, phone thinks I dont have a sim card, no internet or data or ability to call or text
Had to reinstall the entire OS again
wheat plume
you can, I wanted to get rid of the AOSP one thats default in android
I installed google dialer myself to replace it
ashen spindle
havent found an articel yet, so heres the paper if anyones curious https://mlq.me/download/takeaway.pdf
crimson wigeon
Finally
wheat plume
mlq = milk?
ashen spindle
no
cedar glen
.me = .moe?
wheat plume
.moe is a real domain though
I want it
really, Ubuntu installs THE FREAKING ENTIRE DESKTOP as a snap????
cedar glen
yeah I'm enough of a weeb to have come upon .moe sites more than once
cedar glen
I use taiga.moe to download my anime, for starters
wheat plume
for windows
welp
I never thought id see an open source app that is only for windows
wheat plume
so it downloads episodes for you?
wheat plume
hmmmm
cedar glen
anything I add to my watch list gets downloaded as soon as it airs, using whatever RSS I set
and whenever I watch an episode it updates the status
wheat plume
I dont know enough about RSS
wheat plume
ooohhh
cedar glen
heh, looking at alternatives and the first one that came up is also open source, for windows only
and one for macos
wheat plume
I see
cedar glen
welp, all I can find for linux is Trackma but it doesn't look like it has auto download: https://github.com/z411/trackma
guess not enough weebs use linux
cedar glen
well then not enough are lazy enough to make an app that remedies their laziness
wheat plume
:'))
cedar glen
sorta
you don't get the Shoko Desktop part
but tbh most users don't use that anyway, and instead access the server using Plex, Kodi, or their phones so I guess it makes sense
wheat plume
oo fair enough
cedar glen
still, pretty silly
wheat plume
indeed
if tey made the hardest part work on linux then the UI should be somewhat easy for them
cedar glen
they're currently redoing the whole UI from scratch
so I'd assume they'll make it work on both
ashen spindle
Just make the ui yourself :^)
cedar glen
16gb here but like 7 of it is constantly used
wheat plume
I was using all of my RAM using visual studio and oracle database few days ago
got a blue screen -.-
cedar glen
visual studio
Well there's your problem
wheat plume
as soon as I ran the run button
we need to use VS -.-
she wont let us use anything else
cedar glen
may I suggest a sharp object and stabby stabby?
wheat plume
she wont evenm let us use microsoft database, we have to fuck with shitty oracle instead
ashen spindle
Are you storing your database in your ram or what
cedar glen
it's self defense
wheat plume
version 4 at that :/ so out dated that its no longer online
so we all installed the newest version and hoped thay worked but it didnt
no one in the year could get it installed and working consistently
cedar glen
is this uni ? because it sounds like uni
wheat plume
yeah it is
cedar glen
sigh
wheat plume
using combinations of products that no onne uses together
cedar glen
flashback to professors forcing us to use ubuntu
cedar glen
masochists
wheat plume
it should be VS + Microsoft DB since that is easy AF to install and connect to
it was funny, she was bragging to the class how her laptop has 8gb ram and how she could run both chrome and VS at the same time with no lag
loud hemlock
oof
wheat plume
ahahah then someone comes out and says they have 64GB ram
cedar glen
oh hi doc
loud hemlock
hi
wheat plume
i only use chrome as a backend for youtube
cedar glen
why tho
wheat plume
everthing else I use firefox or falkon
cedar glen
cedar glen
but at what cost?
wheat plume
but video works fine
cedar glen
I'd rather use.... literally any other chromium browser out there
like the new MS Edge
loud hemlock
just for video you can use mpv
cedar glen
:thinkies:
loud hemlock
it plays the link directly
wheat plume
just for video you can use mpv
@loud hemlock I do for local videos and music and for streaming music from my youtube playlist
if MPV had a way to browse my watch later playlist then I would use it for that too
loud hemlock
yeah onceyou get into suggestions and what not it's not pratctical
wheat plume
rn id need to copy paste the URL from a browser anyway
cedar glen
cracks whip
wheat plume
MPV = best media player
cedar glen
Go back to replying to people on the Aurora server, doc
cedar glen
his allotted break time is over
loud hemlock
this server isnt dead tho
loud hemlock
for context me and pop are the 2 most active users on the aurora discord
ashen spindle
blame jeroen for not cloning himself yet so he cant work twice as much
cedar glen
Jeroen is actually working on helping me get my bloody keyboard so I'm not blaming him.... yet
cedar glen
it's not their list tbh
they just use kitsu or anilist's own lists
and MAL, but that was before
I used to use MAL but never really liked it
and when it went under I just moved to anilist
anidb is a bit too hardcore for me, like with all the wanting to keep track of my files
especially since I use shoko, which tries to sync with it by default
cedar glen
@prisma crag I noticed your follow earlier, was confused as hell as it happened when I sent my anilist link to a group of friends :o
pale sigil
What's wrong with mal
@cedar glen you've got to remember one project was just that, a project he did in his spare time, AFAIK he gets paid for doing wooting stuff
reef patrol
running
pale sigil
Still pretty cool
reef patrol
They probably "just" ported an android distro to Apples kernel.
It is VERY barebones and missing a ton of basic features still though
wheat plume
people buy iPhone because of the software though, no one likes the hardware as much
cedar glen
@pale sigil i'm just poking some harmless fun here, I'm a contrib on that project too and I know full well it's something one does in their free time.
If anything I actually respect him for taking over the project and saving it :p
wheat plume
ah yes, a shitty specced iphone 5s is soooooo prestige
ashen spindle
also this is on a 7, so maybe on option for your phone after its older and you want something lighter for longer battery life
fair gull
@wheat plume bra owning an iphone no matter which is literally a prestige thing
i have so many kids who want an iphone cause its an iphone
they dont give a shit about the software
ashen spindle
damn didnt know you had that much offspring already
fair gull
na just dumb customers of mine
wheat plume
yeah....same here -.- our web dev lecturer asked where she could find a second hand iphone for her kid
everyone even herself would prefer to buy them an android
but the kid is like nope
reef patrol
Nothing wrong with buying a used iPhone. Easiest phones to repair
ashen spindle
I mean if you get it for similar price and it makes the kid happy/cool in school I dont see an issue
fair gull
well "cool" is subjective
wheat plume
one person I used to know had such a hate boner for android that one time she broke her phone and she coudnt afford the new iphone and someone offered her a second hand hauwei phone for pretty dman cheap and she said hell nah
laggy and ugly was the words she called it
yeah , before android 5 i think android was pretty ugly , but its really beautiful now
and certainly not laggy
if people are using lag as an insult towards android in 2020 then FML
yea cause iPhone has 120Hz screens /s
ashen spindle
..but didnt you just say that was in the past?
fair gull
ya
fair gull
so she called android laggy in 2019 then
ashen spindle
a second hand phone so maybe the phone specs were bad?
wheat plume
She did
laggy and ugly
tbh the only android phone she ever had to use was an old ass HTC running android 6
cedar glen
android 6 was fine
the issue is that people like to compare the iPhone X to second hand 50€ entry level Android phones running on snapdragon 400 chipsets
fair gull
iphones are laggy anyway
my threaripper and dual 2080ti can easily shoot it out of the water
reef patrol
wheat plume
Xd
the issue is that people like to compare the iPhone X to second hand 50€ entry level Android phones running on snapdragon 400 chipsets
@cedar glen exactly :/
wheat plume
No one said they are
pale sigil
Tony did
wheat plume
Yes
.. His following comment
pale sigil
You know me
fair gull
callum pls dont become the media and take shit out of context
cedar glen
wheat plume
Tony said they are laggy compared to dual 2080ti's xd
ashen spindle
you know I just realised that 5g is something I want in my next phone
they are making batteries bigger bc it drains more power so I'll have a bigger battery and just not use 5g 
wheat plume
and pay 400 dollars more to get 5G
ashen spindle
no, 400 more for 10% more battery 🧠
wheat plume
🤔 not worth it
ashen spindle
well, I'll see how much the new iphone will cost
I'd like a better camera and I dont think iOS14 will still support the 6s
fair gull
get an android phone lol
ashen spindle
dont want to get used to a different phone os
fair gull
just install ios
ashen spindle
meh, I just want to use my phone as a phone, not spend any time on customizing or anything
wheat plume
holy fuck https://youtu.be/CMt4Nqgv3_M
ashen spindle
oh also fun fact I just realized, amd RDNA will be tied to samsung's foundry nodes now most likely
wheat plume
Samsung: cant have native resolution at 120Hz
Oppo: makes the Find X2 Pro to ruin Samsung's career
wheat plume
not sure tbh
reef patrol
It feels a LOT smoother.
Just going from 60 to 90 on my OnePlus was pretty mindblowing.
wheat plume
https://youtu.be/CMt4Nqgv3_M?t=372 I love his comment wen he zooms the video to fill the screen
ashen spindle
never tried it but since you notice higher Hz on your pc monitor by just moving stuff etc., I'd assume same benefits exists on phones
reef patrol
Yup
wheat plume
the problem is a lot of custom roms arent even 60FPS at all times
I notice some stutters, not really a stutter but it looks like its struggling to reach 60FPS at most times
ashen spindle
well thats the custom rom's issue not minte 
wheat plume
the only one that didnt have lag was Pixel Experience in their new update, they locked vsync to 60 or something to make it always 60Hz
old marlin
@wheat plume what is the reason for 1440p on a phone though
Like I can't see the difference
Also drains a shitton of battery
crimson wigeon
People see bigger number, people want bigger numbers
old marlin
Well i personally prefer the bigger battery time number
cedar glen
fun fact : In Tunisia sellers used that technique to their advantage, doing stuff like selling an nVidia GTX 1050 for more than a GTX 980 because the number is higher, or selling 500 gb hard drives for more than a 1/2 TB one because 500 is bigger
old marlin
Wtf
cedar glen
also selling dual core cpus with higher freq for more than quad cores with lower freqs
@old marlin ikr, but the thing about Tunisia is that up to the last few years most "gamers" knew nothing about parts and their only reference was that any intel core 7 is better than intel core i5 or i3 and any "neuvidia" is better than an amd or intel
zenith sonnet
@ashen spindle Where'd you get the Info about RDNA and Samsung?
ashen spindle
remember when the deal between amd and samsung was announced?
obviously samsung intends to use their own fabs for their own chips
so if the technology would be made on tsmc that would lead to issues, but amd also doesnt want to limit to one fab
zenith sonnet
According to the slides from the Financial Analyst Day it will be on TSMC 7nm
ashen spindle
but with CDNA being announced
they can seperat that
well that slide isnt quite accurate as rdna1 already isn't on what tsmc calls 7nm
zenith sonnet
RDNA2 will be either TSMC N7P or N7+
ashen spindle
rdna1 is already on n7p
zenith sonnet
Anyway, there was no mention whatsoever that AMD won't exclusively use TSMC for Zen3, Zen 4, RDNA2 and CDNA
RDNA3 and CDNA2 are ambiguous, though. 'Advanced Node'.
All their slides refer to TSMC nodes for those upcoming products
Advanced Node could also mean N6 or N5 or N5+
Or that they don't have the capacities and need to stick to N7+
zenith sonnet
You didn't
ashen spindle
I said tied to what samsung can do
so if they can make similar stuff as tsmc can do, ofc both foundries can be used
but you cant make something with tsmc tech that samsung will use if samsung cant produce it
zenith sonnet
Afaik they can't just port something to a different foundry. They'd have to specifically design a product for it, from scratch
Not that it would be a bad thing if Samsung were competitive and AMD had products there, too
ashen spindle
.. samsung is not going to outsource their own chips to another company so it already must be designed to work with what samsung has
starting with rdna3 it will be tied to samsung
as 2021 is the plan to get rdna3 out and samsung wants chips out in the same year
and for rnda3 they never said anything beyond "advanced node" and it first came up in the FAD slides
feral jolt
Rdna2 looks slick I hope it beats 3080 ti
ashen spindle
unlikely, it will be closer than now though
but console games might be gaining extra performance on rdna2
as console optimizations can easily be transferred as both xbox and ps5 are using rdna2 apus
zenith sonnet
We'll see how large a chip they make
They could compete with the 2080 Ti, if only they made a larger chip
5700/XT is what, half the size of a 2070 Super?
ashen spindle
but CU's don't scale linearly
and having a big node advantage now is why it wont match Ampere on 7nm as well
since that advantage will be gone
zenith sonnet
It's 45% of a 2070 Super die
The 2080 Ti has a 35% performance advantage over the 5700 XT
(According to review data in the TPU GPU database)
ashen spindle
yes but part of the turing dies are tensor/RT cores
2080 ti is also not using a fully enabled chip
zenith sonnet
Either way, it should be entirely possible for AMD to make an RDNA1 die that's competitive with it, even if scaling isn't top notch
ashen spindle
no
zenith sonnet
They have enough other things to focus on, though
ashen spindle
if they could big navi wouldnt be rdna2
zenith sonnet
Maybe they put the effort into RDNA2 instead, to get an even bigger leap?
50% perf/watt over RDNA is nothing to scoff at
ashen spindle
or maybe they made rdna and knew it wouldnt make sense to make a bigger chip with it
after all they are using leapfrogging teams so rdna1 team is not going over to rdna2
wheat plume
Just installed EvolutionX and omfh, its filled with customisations
ashen spindle
they've been pretty on point with that recently though
eh, the hardware side of navi2x will be quite good, if the software team can keep up
the power efficency increase is partly from what they learned from the 4000 apus, they said they could apply much from that to navi too
well, thats where project wins like el capitan or frontier comes in, those deals include money and cooperation for software improvements
ashen spindle
I mean its the same thing nvidia is doing, nothing new
I'm not talking about quadros, but tesla and such
also they already mentioned on rdna1 release that they wanted to seperate it in the future
somehow I feel like RTG has been going up since Raja left, which isnt what I want to see as I want intel gpu to work well lmao
well similarly I dont see coherency being a feature in gaming cards so it makes sense to call gpus with that something else
no not really, only followed hardware since a bit after sandy bridge
but that does sound accurate to what happens now with intel gpus, apparently great and can scale really well and all "if they can fix it"
yea
which is good, but only if you can make it work
pretty sure they said it was no reason"yet" even fromt he start
and given they knew they had deals with console makers, getting it there means much more than on pc cards only
eh maybe, or they wantd to keep it safe and not give anything away about the console plans
ok but that sounds like a smart move because now they sounds more pwerful
idk I feel like not having dxr as the standard doesnt really matter as much
ive read something about that recently but cant remember where, bc there was too much speculation for me how exactly the implementation will be
I feel like we wont get much at launch, but by the time rdna3 comes we might have some nice things that then can run at much righer fps on pc too
yea
still waiting for computex to be cancelled so I can o full sad
ah, didnt take a look at the schedule
mhh maybe
on the other hand the consoles might get delayed a bit so might cancel out the effect a bit lol
well it was cancelled but with plans to host something in summer instead
sure but if that doesnt work there are other options too
heh maybe it means some more interesting talks at devcom
last year had a talk from someone at 4A about the new RTX stuff they added in the metro dlc, so maybe there will be something more from them again
well consoles are still expected to launch before holiday
just maybe a bit later/ lower quantity
lmao yeah internet likes drama more than truth
ashen spindle
oh but we forgot to mention to most important news from amd
they finally realized blower fan cards are shit and thus are making dual/trial axis coolers for navi2x
zenith sonnet
They are good if you don't have sufficient case airflow
ashen spindle
yeah so great the hit max temp almost everytime..
feral jolt
Rdna2 should be a lot more refined than the mess the 5700 and xt were
I heard amd engineers were still referring to it as GCN until marketing decided it was rdna1
ashen spindle
well yeah like half of it is still gcn tech, that much was shown on early slides
I mean thats far beyond what a consumer needs to know
thats like for indie/hobby/render programmers
wheat plume
You want volume sliders?
I got plenty!
fallow bison
volume control panel be like
wheat plume
:')) I was in the sound settings and saw a bunch of toggle and realised this is what they did after needing to change the volume for msuci
I only left on media cause I like a slim UI
wheat plume
This is the only custom rom I know where the progress slider doesn't extend the whole way across the media notification and I don't like it
warped dove
2nd good gaming mouse under $100: Razer Viper Mini. Might even be better than Coolermaster MM710
old marlin
mm710 has atrocious QC
pale sigil
Weeb
zenith sonnet
What's a good price for you?
Got mine for ~90€ new when it released, and I'm mostly happy
Although I've come to slightly dislike ambidextrous mice (damn, that one took me years to notice)
pale sigil
danm this price drop https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00HVLUR54
zenith sonnet
I'm still wondering what I should upgrade to
And when
pale sigil
I remember, someone used to use their internet purely from tethering with their phone here.
I wonder if that person is still around.
@solar hinge you used to right
reef patrol
Yep
pale sigil
im curious
solar hinge
i did yes
pale sigil
There is a providor offering 4gb unlimited (well we will see after more research)
and im thinking of going that route
as i can prob get about 80-100 down and 60 up
solar hinge
but i had a good connection where i used to live on my 4g+ (90-150mbps down and 120-160mbps up)
if you have the option, it's nice to save money 🙂
pale sigil
i wouldn't be saing anything
still on contact
if it works out id cancel the contract on the next price increase
solar hinge
i recommend sharing it via USB cable, as this will decrease battery use and heats up the phone less
pale sigil
Then id be saving around 8 quid a month if they choose to renew my deal if not id be saving like 20+
I would have used an old phone
solar hinge
the only reason we have internet at home now is because the phone internet is only 40/40 😛
it would save me 65 euros a month
pale sigil
i just want actual control
id buy a 4g router after a bit
then connect it to a normal one
and not have to worry about them blocking ports completely even if i want to use them
How was latency
not on about mouse
xD
i dont belive in overpriced mice
g403
problem solved
they dont need to compete
so why would they
zenith sonnet
I think Logitech will overengineer a mouse before trying to be price competitive
Sorta like Noctua
Or not
Noctua has less shit in their product stack
ashen spindle
yeah opt out and they totally don't know it anymore 
eternal magnet
wow
wheat plume
wait....playstation runs on FreeBSD????
crimson wigeon
But of course
thick elk
Kind of seems to be the standard, the nintendo switch also runs on modified freeBSD
wheat plume
oo
^^^^^ exactly
Its like they dont know that america spies on them even more and actually give a shit about it
China dotn care about your data
ashen spindle
nah they both want everything they can get
eternal magnet
hm as example facebook... are they even able to handle and connect so many data of so many users?
ashen spindle
the more data you have the easier it is...
eternal magnet
really? i mean how? doesnt it take up a huge amount of cpu-power?
ashen spindle
and? trust me facebook has more than a couple pc's in the back room
the more data you have the more connections you can make between them and it becomes easier to connect them to one person
combine "anonymous" tracking data of some any phone app with "anonymous" data from alexa/ring/nest whatever and suddenly you know who that person is etc.
wheat plume
true
ashen spindle
which is why it doesnt really matter to opt out of personalized ads, you don't notice that they connect the data but they still do
quaint pilot
Num lock is off when it's on. Just that. On my Wooting Two
ashen spindle
yes
fair gull
its cause most people use numlock by default so to prevent it pmuch always being white its reversed
ashen spindle
yes or the light is off when it's on...
halcyon moss
isn't it a BSD license? so you can do whatever you want with it?
pale sigil
@wheat plume how do I sign up for miui betas
wheat plume
there is no longer a global beta@pale sigil
You can switch to Xiaomi EU custom rom to get all the latest features from the china beta in a rom made for eu customers if you want that though, I used that ROM it is amazing <3
you can get the MIUI 11 beta that updates each week and pulls in the features from china beta or you can run the stable china rom from them that adds all the google stuff back for eu people
wheat plume
O.o Xiaomi EU issued an update half hour ago
wheat plume
I prefer Orangefox because it automatically handles decryption for you
and its just prettier and more customisable
Install TWRP and then use TWRP to flash orangefox, thats how you mostly install it
pale sigil
If I can use custom roms without voiding my warranty or a stupid your device has been tripped bullshit I would
wheat plume
Xiaomi dont give a fuck if you install custom roms. it doesnt break the warranty
They have said, live on stage that they dont care, infact they have an unlock tool to automatically unlock the phone bootloader for you
pale sigil
wheat plume
oo there we go
pale sigil
Tbh I see no reason to use another rom
Especially considering how it can fuck up so many apps
Even with apps that are supposed stop that
wheat plume
I have no issues with apps on any custom rom
except arrowOS but thats a very specific app for a very specific use case
pale sigil
Google pay?
wheat plume
Yup, itll work if you dotn have root access
like most roms these days unless you install magisk
wheat plume
be careful though, there is a bug with the march security patch that makes every rom fail safetynet, so maybe use a rom still on the febuary patch
if you fail safetynet it means you cant use apps like gpay
but idk if that only applies if you have magisk
pale sigil
I ain’t changing rom
wheat plume
I think it might
pale sigil
For a long time
wheat plume
oh? then why you unlock the booloader now?
pale sigil
I ain’t
wheat plume
o
wheat plume
ah !
pale sigil
It’s perfect as destiny 2 season of soviet is coming out
I find it funny that all roms are based in pixel experience
Which is basically stock
wheat plume
only EvolutionX is based on Pixel Experience and they are made by the same devs
EvoX is PE but a lot lor more customisation
pale sigil
wheat plume
I love PE :DD
but I am using EvolutionX right now
hnng so smooth and so much options
pale sigil
Then install it
wheat plume
I have
pale sigil
What makes it so different
pale sigil
So stuff I prob won’t touch XD
wheat plume
you may find some of it useful tbh like I did
like the media playtback and the ambient display when you get a notification or the song playing changes
if you want a better rom for battery life then try ExtendedUI
it also shares a lot of features with EvoX
wheat plume
look, no custom rom will ever beat MIUI in terms of battery life
unless you go to measures to restricxt everything and install apps to freeze backgroudn shit
pale sigil
I love MIUI for that
wheat plume
but for me ExtendedUI came very close
pale sigil
It tells every app to stfu
wheat plume
yeah ahahah
pale sigil
My last security update was October 
wheat plume
O.o
tbh thats better than like 80% of people I bet
my moms last phone was April 2016 -.-
pale sigil
Latest is only jan tho
pale sigil
My sister said why do I even have a phone? I never renew my sim (30 day PAYG) and I never really use it,
wheat plume
I have 28 day payg
pale sigil
My answer? Well for the rare times I actually use it and renew my sim
I WANT A PHONE THATS NOT A POTATO
wheat plume
LEL
pale sigil
I use Gif gaff
ashen spindle
idk Glados phone sounds kinda nice
wheat plume
I want a phone with something better than an LCD screen , I want those rich colors and the always on display feature
pale sigil
It also helps I don’t really use social apps on it
pale sigil
The only thing I miss is 1440p
Wireless charging I don’t really miss but would be handy to have again
Fast charging kinda makes wireless charging pointless anyway
wheat plume
im fine with 1080p tbh
wheat plume
oof
pale sigil
I also miss having an actual good finger print scanner
I think mine is eh cos it’s in screen and cos of the glass cover
wheat plume
what is the cheapest xiaomi phone with oled / amoled screen?
oo I love this wallpaper
chrome estuary
Is that as long as they last before you need a new one?
wheat plume
O.o
fickle ore
@digital cliff hows the wristrest?
zenith mirage
does anyone have an idea why my media keys would suddenly stop working? They're just doing the usual scrolling up and down pages now
All the things i've searched up say chrome is the problem but i don't use chrome :((
on the wooting for context. I have been fiddling with the wootility in recent times, but only to change colours, so idk if i've messed something up there
reef patrol
Windows night be messing up. Media keys is part of one of their APIs.
wheat plume
@zenith mirage Firefox doesn't like my media keys :/
zenith mirage
hmmm
wheat plume
Play and pause only work on the new nightly build
But skip and previous aren't working at all
fickle ore
I thought u had the wooting wrist rest tino so I wanted to know how it is
is it any good
review plz
reef patrol
I mean... it's a wristrest... made from silicone.
10/10 it does exactly what it says on the tin? 😄
fickle ore
if anything was ever that simple
halcyon moss
Its a good firm wrist-rest. Easy to clean. good spank paddle
fickle ore
Hows the angle? Does your palm sink in? Is it firm?
do you prefer to play with or without it?
I mean ive used wristrests that make me wanna play without..
current one included
zenith mirage
okay so further testing shows it's just the media keys on my wooting that are the issue
hrm
i guess because my other keyboards have the media keys on the function row? This is a bit bothersome
reef patrol
Shouldn't matter. Same signal being sent
zenith mirage
reset the wooting, they now work
reef patrol
old marlin
wooting repair flowchart is basically
problem
|
reset
|
works```
old marlin
I mean that applies to 99% of electronics
old marlin
@cedar glen why would you want a mouse even heavier than 179g
lethal wasp
you want a medium friction pad with the lightest mouse possible believe me
old marlin
pad part is deabatable
lethal wasp
MP510 is the best pad ever made
it's an upgraded goliathus control that doesn't look autistic
cedar glen
well first I have huge hands
lethal wasp
inertia is the enemy of physics lol
cedar glen
this always forced me to get heavy mice, and I got used to it
lethal wasp
get a deathadder v2 my guy
cedar glen
I use high sensitivity and barely move my wrist
cedar glen
lmao no
lethal wasp
da v2 is god tier
old marlin
don't
cedar glen
deathadder is shite
cedar glen
and razer is a meme company anyway
lethal wasp
not really
old marlin
their recent mice are good
cedar glen
and yes, I did try the deathadder