so use what Banjo said
#🔌│tech
pale sigil
reef patrol
Callum... it's social media. They don't need access to your shit to know. You're willingly spilling the beans by visiting, liking and posting 😄
pale sigil
Yes but cookies dont leave the container so using different sites via the extension doesn't affect other tabs
So tracking is not outside of that tab
ofc fbook are tracking your likes, comments etc
pale sigil
but anything outside of fbook cookies are not tracking you, everything stays within that container and when you open new links etc its constantly making a new one
privacy is a nice thing to have even if you dont have much of it
safe patrol
reef patrol
old marlin
disney+ doesn't work with linux thanks to drm lol
zenith mirage
The mouse strikes again
zenith sonnet
What do we learn from that? Don't support stuff with DRM
old marlin
Netflix has the same drm
And amazon prime stuff
Disney just uses a higher security level
Will probably get "fixed" in a month with an android emulator thingy
zenith sonnet
Urgh
Is it possible to make sure that, when the displays turn off after inactivity, and then turn on again, Windows don't hop between displays?
Every time my PC is idle and turns off my displays, my browser hops from the right to the left display
sick creek
@zenith sonnet sounds like your display is actually turning off, not going into sleep mode, and the pc no longer sees the display
Otherwise it should preserve the desktops
feral jolt
Have you tried percussive maintenance
safe patrol
sounds like you need to invest in an electric blanket
or better yet... electric sheep
halcyon moss
or memory
once i had a stick of ram that froze my laptop.. it ran fine on memtest86+ for hours.
But if that stick was in my laptop, it froze after a while...
timid chasm
My buddy had a random stick that caused bsod. Once he finally got rid of it it never came back.
reef patrol
zenith sonnet
Which 2x 16GiB or 4x 16 GiB RAM kit would you guys recommend?
I think it's more like a question of 'Which Trident Z Royal kit should I get?' at this point? Are there comparable alternatives?
And every other week they release a new high end kit...
reef patrol
Yeah... I stopped caring and bough the best variant of 3600 I could find at the time.
I.E. "The kit that Samsung makes the dies for at as low of a CL as possible within reason"
ashen spindle
ryzen 3000 or different platform? if former you can start by ignoring all kits with higher rated clocks than you will need
reef patrol
Oh yes. I've watched him since he started doing Sims stuff. 😄
wheat plume
oo!
ashen spindle
also, corsair dominator is a 2x16 option that could be cheaper than trident z and still be good, not sure if they have 4x16
reef patrol
Not as purdy though imo
The Doms LEDs are much more in your eyes eye piercing light. The TridentZ and Royals are more matte.
ashen spindle
yes but I dont care about looks on my ram lol
mine dont even have a cover, it's just bare sticks
reef patrol
zenith sonnet
Either Ryzen 3000 or TR 3000
Not sure yet
X570/AM4 doesn't have much live left
Zen 3, then it's a new socket
And Zen 2 > Zen 3 won't be a worthwhile upgrade
zenith sonnet
That it is
old marlin
It won't loose all it's relevance over night
zenith sonnet
TR40 will probably be at least equal, though
zenith sonnet
With that in mind, TR40 might not be compatible with Zen 4 as well
Hmm...
Everything sucks
zenith sonnet
I said might
old marlin
If they prepare it correctly
zenith sonnet
But yeah, can't really plan ahead for an upgrade to Zen 4 with what we have
zenith sonnet
Hmm, only if they don't get Zen 4 ready in time
Which I doubt
Given how they already boasted it being on track for 2021
old marlin
With intels current plan
We get a 10th gen
Which is a decacore 9th gen refresh
And 11th gen
Which apparently will be a refresh too
zenith sonnet
Refresh of a refresh of a refresh
old marlin
Intels plans after that aren't solid
If AMD can squeeze in Zen 3+ or smth they will
Well
Atm intel already refreshes skylake
From 2015
Every year
Atm AMD has market dominance
If they can keep it going for the next two years intel might be in a bad position
zenith sonnet
Intel will be fine, they sell enough through their OEM channels
But enthusiast desktop they're like 20% nowadays
Mostly people who 'only buy intel because AMD bad'
Met them irl, too
Weird folk
old marlin
Mindfactory has public numbers
And intel is pushed back in the OEM market
Because they don't deliver
fair gull
i mean intel doesnt focus on desktop anymore anyway
their main "innovation focus" is server
and business
not consumer desktop
halcyon moss
@zenith sonnet you seem to be suffering from choice paralysis :p
ashen spindle
Yeah I don’t remember how many months ago he started looking at stuff and still doesn’t know what to get
old marlin
Oh, I knwo intel doesn't focus on desktop
they have bad delivery problems though
so much that HP only made AMD servers for a while
for high end tasks
ashen spindle
Yup putting 14nm fabs to 10 and 7 when the first one has delays isn’t great for making enough stuff, but it’s not like they can’t push it forward either and stay even longer on 14
old marlin
well
they still are comitted to 14nm
for at least 2 more years
they slooooowly shift into 10nm rn
but only in the notebook market for now
ashen spindle
Sure but even that’s a decent marketshare, also custom chip designs and IoT takes a lot that we don’t know much about
zenith sonnet
@halcyon moss @ashen spindle It could all be over yet if the stuff went to market yet...
ashen spindle
You say that but even if threadripper is on market, we still wouldn’t know if next gen works on it lmao and since you are already thinking that far ahead something like that will always be the case
faint hatch
they said they would be incompatible with last gen
on treadripper
but im still waiting on 3e gen to drop so depending on the price i can go for a 3e gen set ip the preformance is far better
but i doubt in my use case that it would be so i probably will just get a 2e gen cpu and board
zenith sonnet
All anybody know is that AM4 will almost certainly not support Zen 4, while TR40 might or might not support Zen4
There's unfortunately still no prices on the TR platform
And it's not just TR that's missing from the market, the 3950X got delayed as well...
Maybe because of AGESA 1004
Maybe they wanna get it right this time
reef patrol
🤔
halcyon moss
What is a 3e gen? is that 3rd? but Dutch? :p
ashen spindle
Yes I said next gen not previous on tr40, also it’s more likely the delayed it because it makes more money if you sell it in an epyc cpu than 3950x and supply shortage
halcyon moss
just curious, wat are you doing with a threadripper?
zenith sonnet
I need to see how it performs, first
No idea if or what performance advantages it offers over Ryzen
pale sigil
halcyon moss
Thread ripper is probably going to be quite pricy though
pale sigil
in the payment section it just asks for paypal email to send funds to
lol
Lets see if this works 🤷
I used a throwaway email on my paypal.... this should be interesting
no personal data was asked for
lol
We will see
I lost nothing
gave nothing away
and.... some places saying its legit, site checks out and they did contact me on linkedin too
i have heard of this before, they were drawn to me via my AR app
Usually i just delete but hey
no harm in trying this time
its soooooo slow
So expensive too
no i mean the librem 5
is expensive af
LUL 720p screen wtf
safe patrol
mmmm Pinephone
ashen spindle
safe patrol
NO YOU
ashen spindle
binary large objects
look you're going at this from the wrong angle
just get rich, if you have enough money you can make people not look at what you do 
yes but I didn't mean to use that in a way like becoming epstein 2.0 and then people like snowden won't happen because nobody would care
zenith sonnet
Are the Snowden leaks even relevant any more?
pale sigil
........ turned windows updates back on
wheat plume
😮
zenith sonnet
chrome estuary
I kinda wanna buy the LG G8X with the Dual Screen
plush summit
Yup
sick creek
Ssds have made ruggedized laptops pretty obselete for most applications
The features are now things like data protection (like erasing/destroying in the event of capture/loss), emp protection, etc
You can drop most laptops nowadays and they will work just fine, sans cracked screen
Like police dont need panasonic toughbooks lol
halcyon moss
ppl treat hardware like shit though
latent mural
rugged laptops are more use in heavy industry or similar
it's a very niche market
and it costs accordingly, i.e. just like any other expenditure for a corporation
you also pay for the support, just like for any corporate product
you pay for it to "just work" and when it fails you pay for it to be fixed/replaced asap
i.e. that fancy shell is also heat resistance, oil resistance, dust restitance
and you need those
particularly the heat and oil
old marlin
is it resistant to corrosive enviroments though?
latent mural
the thick plastic would be enough im sure
latent mural
no, you cant drop the device into a tub of descaling acid
old marlin
well yea obv
latent mural
but the device will survive a spill
old marlin
I meant corrosive air
latent mural
cant say that about other laptops
old marlin
I was serious about having to servers die due to it
latent mural
theres no way to protect it
youd need a sacrificial anode, on everything
or just inside and sorta hope it works
old marlin
outside contacts honestly don't matter much
reef patrol
Linus did a video recently on the niche machines. And Alex? Reviewed one a while back I think.
old marlin
lol
reef patrol
😂
reef patrol
latent mural
what could linus possibly understand about the needs of heavy industry
old marlin
well
heavy industry can be different
we ahve a ton of acids etv
so the air can be pretty corrossive
others have metal dust
gl protecting against that
we have a couple sorting machines
reef patrol
latent mural
i wonder if a sacrificial anode would work (also open contacts made of pure gold)
old marlin
if you put one on every single trace that isn't connected to anything else
halcyon moss
plasticwrap it
old marlin
in theory HDD platters could serve as one lol
latent mural
if you rip that decompression foil off
old marlin
ehhm
hdd have normal atmosphere inside
that is essential to the operation
for non helium drives
otherwise the head would scrape on the platter
latent mural
it's been a while since i dissembled an hdd
old marlin
it was like that since forever
that is why they have a hole on the m that you aren't allowed to cover
they often have a membrane under that to prevent liquid damage
old marlin
@fair gull did you pay your google cloud with a credit card?
fair gull
nope
gsuite is setup with bank account for me
and i found out
if the trial ends for you 10€ gsuite business
u can suspend the subscription
and if u had shared drives AND added a gmail account to them thats not in the gsuite organization
old marlin
cause my brotehr was wondering hwo he could pay it
sicne credit cards in germany are uncommon
fair gull
when the trial is over
altho we arent sure if the suspension can be done indefinetly
support said they wont delete it
but you cant be too sure
even then 10€ a month isnt bad
for unlimited shared drives and unlimited cloud storage
and the other bonuses of gsuite accounts
like managed android devices etc
@old marlin https://discordjs.moe/5UvhsUU3oe.png
ashen spindle
That helps? Is blender able to use avx512 a lot?
old marlin
apparently it works
a 7110 apparently is still quite a bit faster than a 2990wx
atm have a rendering server at work
in proxmox
with 40c
gonna hopefully get 80
not fast ones though
the 40c are ~3 times faster than my r5 1600 at 3.8 ghz
well
if ohis work
i'll get myself a server with like 4 of them
roommate would also have interest in that kinda compute power
fickle ore
old marlin
ye
old marlin
wtf
old marlin
pastebin is blocked at work for me
still thinking how I can make a cheap af xeon phi rendering station etc
probably get an old hp z800
and throw the cards in there
got a better idea?
z820 might actually be better for that use case
old marlin
what is a good tiem for the classroom benchmark?
fair gull
dunno
magic oracle
plush summit
discord thing to do\
"um yeah, we know our application can be broken and modified....but thats against the tos, so dont do it"
"so an application that uses our program to steal data due to a vulerability in our programing has emerged, were sorry, but there's nothing we can do"
"however, dont be an idiot on the internet"
like wtf
fair gull
pmuch any electron program can be taken advantage of
its more a fault by design of using electron
fair gull
easy fix dont use linux
wheat plume
windows sucks
fair gull
apparently not as much as linux
wheat plume
apparently?
wheat plume
I am installing a different version of kwin
from the AUR
anything from the AUR needs to be built on the PC
wheat plume
if you use the normal repo it doesnt
fair gull
plus most games dont run well on linux
if it would run better id switch
altho no i wouldnt
no sharex on linux
crimson wigeon
still using make in 2019
wheat plume
it works and you dont have to do in manually unless you get a package from github or somethign that doesnt have an installer script with it
thick elk
I actually dual boot linux on my pc to provide a gaming free environment. If only it helped against chain watching youtube / shitposting on discord. Actually if gaming worked just as well on linux I wouldn't touch windows at all.
latent mural
anyone's got a good study material for c#? i can do c and lua
ashen spindle
https://www.youtube.com/user/IAmTimCorey is pretty good from what I've seen
also ReSharper as a tool is amazing to learn more, but not right when you are beginning
do you just want to learn it in general or do you already have usecases in mind?
finding something more specific is often easier, eg. unity or wpf
latent mural
making basic, windows only applications that sometimes communicate with low level and C stuff
with basic windows interfaces
ashen spindle
https://www.wpftutorial.net/ is nice to get into wpf which is really easy to use for basic interfaces
latent mural
thanks
ashen spindle
you can just drag objects via the toolbox in VS and dont touch xaml otherwise and just do the rest via c# if you want minimal wpf work
latent mural
ooh neat
ashen spindle
only know c++ as other c language so I cant directly tell you what to look out for
Properties for exposing stuff to other classes comes to mind, and LINQ if you work a lot with a lot of data, because it saves a lot of for loops and such
latent mural
ty
ashen spindle
oh and dont trust people who use "var" in c#
(exception if its used for a superMegaUselessStupidClassName and you dismiss it directly after)
crimson wigeon
But it's just so convenient!
ashen spindle
zenith sonnet
Is there any actual upgrade from my RM1000i PSU?
The newer HXi series any better?
What about some Plat/Titanium PSUs?
chrome estuary
NGL, i really want a 1tb microsd card or two.
i literally have no use for it other than maybe the Switch but it's like bragging rights
like 'Oh your phone has 128gb of storage? My sd card holds a terabyte.'
zenith sonnet
Does your phone support that?
chrome estuary
most phones support up to 2tb
Phones have supported that for fuckin a long time, ever since SDXC was an avaliable format
and i'm feckin amazed at the massive drops in price for these things. It seems everytime I turn around they're even cheaper. 512 is now ~90$. 128GB is only like ~20$. I remember my stepdad buying my 128gb microsd for my phone way back when and it was nearly 100$
pale sigil
Jesus tucking Christ, a developer for a theme I use is a little bitch
He cried about his public code being modified and shit
timid chasm
why even made your stuff public is thats the case
pale sigil
Everyone someone even posts a tiny bit of code he disables it for thousands of people
Every single fucking time
And stars going on a crying rant
He’s just wiped everyone’s theme out etc because I pasted a paste bin for support, he made it private on gitlab and invite only
pale sigil
And I got banned
wheat plume
What theme and for what software ?
reef patrol
safe patrol
I sure would hate for people to contribute to my publically available code.... that would be the wurst.
zenith sonnet
new monitor firmware
no patchnotes to be found anywhere
old marlin
oof
pale sigil
@wheat plume
Done with thst theme anway
Every few weeks he has a tantrum
And disables the theme for everyone
safe patrol
So.... I should mirror the repo and self-host? x3
safe patrol
well if its open source it can be fixt
pale sigil
Effort tho s
zenith sonnet
Yup
Monitors have needed firmware since forever
What's odd about it getting updates?
old marlin
Well moderm monitors are getting more and more feature rich
And you can update over hdmi and dp since forever iirc
Although mosy monitos support some kind of usb connection nowadays
zenith sonnet
USB is preferred usually
And I dunno what it added or fixed, couldn't find patch notes
chrome estuary
so I'm looking into going for an ultrawide monitor.
My choices are the Viotek GN34CW or the Viotek GNV34DB
Both are 34" 3440x1440 100hz ultrawides.
The DB is a 1500R curve where as the CW is 1800R
DB has 99% sRGB and 85% NTSC where as the CW is 115% sRGB and 85% NTSC
The price is like 20$ difference
feral jolt
my ultrawide has a 1900r curve and its not enough
i'd have to see the 1500r in person but i'd probably want that
feral jolt
i dont know but 1900r is about half an inch of z axis change from the center to the edge
glad scroll
@digital cliff 1900 apperently means 1.9m, the maximum viewing distance before you lose the advantage a curved monitor gives you?
Mhm
ashen spindle
very confused that there are no 9980xe values
zenith sonnet
@ashen spindle Because other than the turboboost and the DL instructionset, it's literally the same
ashen spindle
hardware mitigations
zenith sonnet
All those benchmarks are done without mitigations to begin with...
ashen spindle
which is stupid...
zenith sonnet
Otherwise they'd have to turn off HT for a lot of SKUs
ashen spindle
?? I mean mitigations in the newest drivers and windows updates
zenith sonnet
Which is an official mitigation published by intel...
Well, yeah, reviewers tend to avoid those
ashen spindle
uhhh no not really?
especially not since more attention came to it
either way, not putting a 9980 or 7980xe on the same chart makes no sense
zenith sonnet
Maybe they didn't have one? Those things are expensive
ashen spindle
then add extrapolated ones if they have a lower sku or from a different review and just mark that as such a thing
zenith sonnet
We'll get more reviews soon, but those numbers look pretty legit
ashen spindle
then again its a site that didn't care for NDA so not really something to care too much about
zenith sonnet
Still a leak, though
Still
It's barely faster than a mainstream CPU with 1/3rd less cores and half the price
And it's their flagship HEDT part
ashen spindle
the cinebench score for the 9980xe is usually 3% higher (around 300 points) than that of the 10980xe there, so it's fairly likely that something is missing in the leaks @zenith sonnet
ashen spindle
okay as much as I see its a bit complicated, what else do people want?
roll over? hard to do the first core series parts are still in use
warped dove
hexadecimal : D
ashen spindle
change name? to what? need a completely new naming scheme that would only mean you now need to know two sets of numbers to describe intel cpus by name
feral jolt
i dont see why they wouldnt simplify it in some way
the laptop ones are particularly boggling
warped dove
Bro have you seen the SoC ecosystem?
ashen spindle
if you got a better system let me know, since I cant think of one for the mainstrea/highend platform that would make sense
warped dove
Qualcomm cleaned up their naming and it's still insane
Now with more RISC processors coming to mobile and laptops you just have to think like a computer, not look for patterns, or stop caring
feral jolt
i couldnt think of a worse naming scheme tbh
ashen spindle
then it should be easy for you to think up a better one
warped dove
I'm just confused that I've seen some people calling it 11th gen and some people calling it 10th gen - ice lake
mean while comet lake is coming out at about the same time
ashen spindle
I have not seen anyone call it 11th gen
warped dove
me neither until a couple days ago
I just rather hear the architecture code names tho
because people have been calling comet lake 10th gen but it's just another skylake re-use without all the same amenities of ice lake (I've been looking for a new dev laptop)
ashen spindle
intel mixing up multiple uArchs in mobile chips all as i10- chips is a mess, but that's a different point since they are abusing their own system, the numeric names work otherwise and make it extremely easy to get a lot of data about any chip in the Core series, aside from certain exceptions in the middle
warped dove
subsequent generations name schemes are gonna be... curious
with their claims to new amazing iGPUs
I'm predicting i7-11750g9
ashen spindle
my guess is that with a good performing 10nm+ chip or 7nm if 10nm+ isn't that great they might change the branding of the core series
since that's where they start with raja's uArchs and the decoupeling of uArchs and process nodes
safe patrol
Make the model #'s like a MAC address
Series:uArch:generation:ghz
Then add a character for power consumption
H/M/L
Done :)
pale sigil
Of course it's really fast on a motorway but dogshit slow everywhere I actually nerd it
pale sigil
pale sigil
Entertainment
ashen spindle
zenith sonnet
Funny thing is they used a Ryzen 3600X
wheat plume
Is In Stockholm rn
zenith sonnet
Does that mean AMD doesn't really bin the IO dies?
pale sigil
Oh jesus, playing outerworlds and my gpu is at 71c
Unreal Engine.... ofc it is
Am i the only one who hates silent characters?
halcyon moss
...
reef patrol
It might actually do something, @pale sigil
Corporations tend to follow the path of least resistance - Aka. If a single state passes this, others might/will fold, and it will honestly be easier for Apple and the likes to just treat all states as the ones with the most consumer friendly rules to minimize costs.
You're in Stockholm? It's a great city.
I can recommend the Photography musem, if you're into gorgeous nature shots and such.
Lot of awesome cafés as well here and there - There's a viking style restaurant with long tables and live music. Just gotta reserve ahead.
ashen spindle
71 on your gpu seems normal? means it boosting nice and giving you high framerates?
zenith sonnet
For an aircooled GPU that's golden
zenith sonnet
Weird
Graphics driver crashed, but recovered
GPU would stay at 570 Mhz though
Wanted to reboot
Then got a BSOD
ashen spindle
mine is at 80c when I push for fps
pale sigil
Can someone explain to me the buzz about doby atmos
ashen spindle
spatial sound, almost unlimited sound tracks and such, dunno specifics about it
pale sigil
guess you'd need compatible headphones to really take advantage of it
ashen spindle
its more for cinema and speakers, dont think headphones are really a target
ashen spindle
so you just used the app and stuff sounds better or what?
ashen spindle
ah so for supported stuff? so I can ignore it
pale sigil
no? i use m50xs
ashen spindle
no I meant, the movies needs to have it, aka games who dont support it wont sound different
crimson wigeon
Probably, but it also does 7.1 virtual surround
So if your game is bad at mixing down to stereo it might give you better results
pale sigil
ive always wanted surround sound lol
sick creek
Yeah dolby atmos is encoded into the audio track
Much like how dts works
However dolby atmos for headphones is basically just software mixing for positional audio
Dolby atmos on hardware that supports it is different tho. You have upward firing speakers to create a better soundfield
That’s basically all that sets atmos apart from regular 5.1/7.1.
Most of you are probably too young to remember the zalman 5.1 headphones lol
They actually had front, surround, and center jacks lul
old marlin
@pale sigil dolby atmos was oroginal about spatial sound with over 200 possible speakers, can be adapted to headphones quite well though
And works with any headphones
The games/movies have to support it though
old marlin
Spatial sound is good
reef patrol
Perkele!
feral jolt
I use the windows sonic spatial sound for shooters
zenith sonnet
That doesn't look good @reef patrol
reef patrol
Replacing the pump just to be sure. Leak seems to be in the pump itself, not a fitting.
reef patrol
It ain't pretty, but it's functional for now.
zenith mirage
That's what spooks me about water cooling
Something could start leaking and I wouldn't notice for ages
ashen spindle
Eh, cpu won’t ever get hit if it leaks and if you have a backplate on your gpu that also won’t cause a short, so no really risk there either
reef patrol
Coolant could leak into the GPU itself though
ashen spindle
Mh yeah I guess that’s true
But usually the cooler is below the card like on your pic, so less likely to leak into the gpu rather than just below it
But you’re right I didn’t think about that option
reef patrol
It all depends on where the leak occurs. Any fitting can be a leak. If the CPU block leaks, it drops down onto the GPU and inside of it worst case. Everywhere else is pretty safe in case of a leak in my loop.
It'll just leak onto the bottom and through the case.
ashen spindle
Yes which is why I mentioned a backplate, then it’s mostly dripping to the side and worst case just shorts something on the pcie connector which is kinda harmless
reef patrol
Backplate won't help. The thing about water is that it doesn't fall straight down from an edge. If there's a gap beneath, it will go inside of that slightly.
ashen spindle
my though is, that it wont drop right onto the back where capacitors for the chip are, so even worst case it's repairable damage
reef patrol
It's going to hit PCB and components on most cards.
It's going to touch parts if liquids drops in the area here.
ashen spindle
true
but again, even worst case it shouldn't come in contact with the chip or the backside of where the chip is right?
reef patrol
It's still going to fry the board to the point of not being worth trying to save. Very rare case but it could happen.
ashen spindle
hrm yeah probably, depends on what the pcb layout is
either way, there is a risk but it's usually fairly small
definitely gonna consider a nice loop for my next pc sometime next year or in two
safe patrol
Coolant is just glycol right? I don't think that will wreck anything
reef patrol
You're thinking of AIOs.
Loop coolant is basically just water and some biocide. Colouring.
Glycol is used in AIOs so they can mix metals 😄
feral jolt
is it possible to use distilled water as coolant?
0 dissolved solids = 0 conductivity
feral jolt
0 conductivity cant short components
ashen spindle
Doesn’t really matter because once it leaks the water will get contaminated
how to distact yourself from workout being boring? watch something you can only barely follow 😂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIG9ztQw2Gc
discord links broken again?
ashen spindle
urgh thats dumb
pale sigil
aye
You oppened someone elses short link
meaning you get redirected via youtube.be first
ashen spindle
then why does it work when you post it
ashen spindle
oh I see
pale sigil
maiden crater
Anyone know some good minimalist cases with a side panel?
I’ve seen nzxt but idk about many more
timid chasm
is x570 the out of the box chipset for ryzen 3rd gen
old marlin
Actually most b450/x470 come delivered with the bios update
sick creek
Also any board with bios flashback will work
Like the kind where you can put the bios on a flash drive, plug into special usb port and it flashes it
feral jolt
Can you run zen 2 on a board meant for ryzen 1xxx?
sick creek
B450 is the minimum afaik
Ok nvm, apparently a b350/x370 would work IF it got a bios update
But that’s a big if
So its up to the manufacturer
feral jolt
Dont think they are much cheaper anyway so I guess a lucky few were able to upgrade from 1xxx to 3xxx without a new mobo
reef patrol
It "should" work on all boards in theory, but you'll lose support for first generation Ryzen as a result of the bios update beforehand.
reef patrol
Either way. Read up on your specific board before doing anything 🙂
old marlin
with ryzen 1000 that is especially the case
halcyon moss
my b450 board came pre-flashed. It had a ryzen 3000 sticker on it.
wheat plume
They have the Bose frames in this shop
Those sunglasses with Bluetooth earphones built it
old marlin
it just is rebadged old CPUs
fair gull
i go for core count
old marlin
I have been on ryzen for a while
pretty great imo
much more versatile
doesn't lag behind much in games
halcyon moss
@fair gull what do you need a threadripper for? always curious about this
crimson wigeon
Compiling obviously
old marlin
tbh
at that point
there are xeon phis
that excell at that
you can just slot it in your current pc
halcyon moss
aha
plush summit
i want to get a threadripper just because
my first enthusiast system
with threadriper
totaly not going to use hashcat with it
totaly not going to log wireshark captures and attemp to capture passwords for other networks
halcyon moss
probably mostly let it sit idle? 😉
safe patrol
clearly
especially if you dont use a laptop at [local coffee shop where folks do work] as a remote network sniffer
zenith sonnet
I wonder what the boost clocks of TR are going to be
safe patrol
Pineapples are great
ashen spindle
lul
reef patrol
Now imagine how much processing power is wasted checking files for this every, single, time, ever
fair gull
btw printer also do this
they check for legal documents and money
and if detected either dont copy or insert a "Copy" text with some comic sans looking as font
nut just the dots
multiple markers
feral jolt
goes to dumpster behind national mint
find broken printer
fix it
Ez billion a week
ashen spindle
wheat plume
Should I install a beta version of this Android 10 ROM?Or use the stable Android 9 version?
True true
I'm getting sick of the look and feel of MIUI
Even though I love the features it adds
It feels so old and clunky except for the status bar and recents app screen
old marlin
my phone had a beta which borked the google safetynet
so better stay on android 9 until full release
fair gull
maiden crater
Can I jam a 3.1 gen 2 type c on a 3.2 gen 1 type c header
Yes, all these distinctions matter
fair gull
type c is the form
the rest is downward compatible from both sides
the same way u can plug a usb a 3.0 into a usb a 2.0
and vice versa
the same way you can use usb 3.0 c with the wooting 2 usb 2.0 c
maiden crater
Because I looked for like an hour for a good mobo with a usb type c header and it’s not the same as the case
old marlin
?
those are standardized
give pictures
teh motehrboard header looks somewhat like this
and the case cable like this
sometimes angled
fair gull
@old marlin theres also fpl usb3
sometimes also used for c and then extra stuff in the usb c end via extra pcb or smth
but thats the 2 headers youll find
pale sigil
Almost tempted to skip the repair process, get a refund via amazon and just rebuy this https://www.eglobalcentraluk.com/xiaomi-mi-9t-pro-6gb-128gb-dual-sim-redmi-k20-pro-with-tempered-glass-screen-protector-and-folding-case-black-glacier-blue.html
fair gull
ew pop out camera
reef patrol
old marlin
better solution than a noth imo
old marlin
although it basically removes water resistance atm
pale sigil
Ye
old marlin
can get solved though
the 9T is already pretty good at it iirc
so may not be a problem in the future
udnerscreen camera would still beat it though
pale sigil
i love my m9t
just not the fucking finger print
everyone else its instant
me? takes half an hour
old marlin
lol
pale sigil
no matter how much i delete the fingerprint and re do
fair gull
good that i dont have a notch
old marlin
even samsung calls it a notch
pale sigil
i hate notch's so much
reef patrol
I like the notch on my 7T a lot more than the idea of a popup
pale sigil
worst ever trend
reef patrol
But honestly... I wouldn't lose sleep over no selfie cam
old marlin
same
fair gull
@old marlin no the s10 has a Punch Hole
fair gull
dont care tbh mostly know it as punch hole
old marlin
still nto a huge fan
fair gull
and its less noticeable than a notch
old marlin
a notch doesn't bother me as much as I thought tbh
fair gull
like i dont notice it myself anymore
old marlin
same
only thing that still bothers me are the gestures
I liked the samsung ones a lot more than the huawei ones
fair gull
what gestures
pale sigil
its still a freaking notch
fair gull
not really
since the display can go round it
bigger fan of the samsung punch holes than the actual notches
especially hate pop out cameras
flimsy ass things popping out of a phone is never good
pale sigil
its not flimsy tho
fair gull
is it tho
old marlin
they aren't flimsy
pale sigil
its really not flimsy
old marlin
if you break one of them you might as well broke any otehr phone
pale sigil
its pretty damn strong
reef patrol
Never taking that chance. Also if it ever gets stuck or seeps liquid.
old marlin
well
like I said
liquid damage is the problem
although they basically solved that on the 9T
reef patrol
A phone should not have moving parts. Not since flip phones. Mechanics wear down and break - and it's one of those things that are never covered by warranty.
reef patrol
So you say. I don't see the reason to risk it in the first place.
old marlin
well your choice
I get the concern
but I honestly doubt that the motor will realistically fail
reef patrol
Indeed. And that's why I went 7T instead. I genuinely don't mind the notch as an alternative 😁
old marlin
underscreen camera would still easily beat it
old marlin
and is entirely possible rn
pale sigil
but that will cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
reef patrol
True. That's probably going to be the long-term solution
pale sigil
Sio ye
Amazon offered refund vs repair
gonna do that and rebuy the pro
🤷
seems logical
fair gull
wont get stuck ever
some really fine sand in it
ruined
old marlin
why would anybody choose repair?
tbh
I doubt that sand will get in
if the gasket is done well enough
fair gull
have u seen filling sand for glues
old marlin
and won't get porous
fair gull
that shit is finer than fine
fair gull
or soapstone "dust"
old marlin
which they probably have to make it dust resistant
fallow bison
What phone you gonna get instead Callum?
pale sigil
tho i can request a refund
old marlin
still not an ideal solution imo
fallow bison
bad
halcyon moss
to teaase Callum some more
baaaaad
old marlin
not much you can argue about that
fallow bison
i mean just the display and one ui is worth it for me
pale sigil
one ui?
old marlin
the new samsung ui
fallow bison
samsungs new UI
old marlin
pretty decent
fallow bison
can do everything with a thumb
halcyon moss
can it record calls? because nothing on stock android 10 can
old marlin
most modern android UIs have that
halcyon moss
but miui is terrible :p
old marlin
in what way
pale sigil
take that back
halcyon moss
ot was when i tried it 5 years ago
old marlin
well
fallow bison
Small things like this just help my 2mm hands reach
old marlin
not really up to date lol
halcyon moss
im a bit salty about not having call recording at all on android 10 -_-
halcyon moss
yes it is, if you install the wrong shit
well.. tough lcuk, according to Dutch law only one of the participants in the conversation has to approve
and that someone, can be yourself
halcyon moss
I wanted to record a call once, to listen back to incase i missed something. can't
reef patrol
Call recording is a must.
fallow bison
you start to care once youve seen higher
halcyon moss
also with the self employment power contract scams stuff... i want to record my calls
fallow bison
But then again i think i could live without, just kinda wanted it as i use my phone mostly for media
zenith mirage
Yeah I had a 1440p phone, now have a 1080p,dont really care
halcyon moss
1080p on a good display is fine.
zenith mirage
People are fine using 1080p for a monitor but want a phone with mad resolution 
zenith sonnet
I think call recording would be nice to have
I can't remember shit from conversations an hour later, let alone a phone call
Drives my wife nuts, lol
halcyon moss
last phone i had with 1080p with was my htc one m7 though :/
halcyon moss
i loved that phone... one of the best phones ever made, except for the camera
pale sigil
Ye it was a great phone
halcyon moss
purple tint
pale sigil
but it aged so fucking bad
halcyon moss
true
pale sigil
i had the purple issue too
my camera stopped working after a year
just had purple lines and shit
halcyon moss
ah, mine still worked, but it was very purple when it wasnt super sunny
halcyon moss
Too bad, because it was a competent camera (just low res) and the Zoe stuff was a couple of years ahead of apple and google
halcyon moss
20 pictures though
halcyon moss
decent at the time :p
pale sigil
sec
my proudest photo was with the m7
camera was pretty damn good back then fite me
zenith mirage
Selfie cameras
halcyon moss
just low res 😉
zenith sonnet
You changed a lot
pale sigil
i had so many fun times with zoe http://mrpl.me/60482b_rfG3.mp4
zenith mirage
Were it not for selfies we could have wall to wall displays
halcyon moss
so for printing a picture it wasnt great
pale sigil
You mean i changed a lot?
zenith mirage
I do quite like the recent addition of a back screen to some phones, so there's no cameras on the front
halcyon moss
hmm try having your partner being on the other side of the world, you want to video call
zenith sonnet
Betweem thoss pictures
zenith mirage
Eh, perhaps that's a use case I hadn't considered
Still, back to back displays fix that too
pale sigil
College was fun
reef patrol
pale sigil
That was our tutor
we just set our screens to that for when he walked in
but tbh even then the selfie cam was pretty bad
old marlin
no laughing allowed
pale sigil
that pic is 6 years old
fallow bison
try again
old marlin
this is callum now
fallow bison
absolute chonk
pale sigil
pale sigil
Photoshop? lies!
old marlin
wtf
fallow bison
wtf
halcyon moss
dark filter
old marlin
is that one of those "beautifying" filters?
halcyon moss
samsung/lg beatifier ? :p
pale sigil
fuck knows Darrell did it
old marlin
which just blurs everything a ton
pale sigil
im to fat for a selfie atm
zenith mirage
Let's see the glow up
fallow bison
rude
old marlin
well, I ain't thin either
halcyon moss
Darrel is! :p
zenith mirage
What about not darrell
halcyon moss
Thin