Twitter I believe was the most recent example of bringing their app interface to desktop
#🔌│tech
glad scroll
ashen spindle
but there they just removed the desktop layout entirely
ashen spindle
but why are you making your window that small
chrome estuary
9:16 viewing?
ashen spindle
tried it on pcpartpicker and I like it, takes away the need to scroll to the side
ye I have 21:9 so it wouldnt happen for me
chrome estuary
i wanna buy a 21:9
and replace my right monitor with it
but i don't want 2560x1080
chrome estuary
I have 2 16:9
pale sigil
same
ashen spindle
no issue with it
chrome estuary
i fucking hate discord
Like when you've got it in a 9:16 layout with anything other than 100% font scaling...
ashen spindle
higher fov, a lot better than having a few cm of non-screen in the middle
one cable to connect and not two etc.
chrome estuary
It just creates a larger and larger void from latest message and text bar
like this has been an issue for so god damn long
yeah there is
drag the window to the corners of the screen
what
uh... I can't remember exactly how to do it but I've seen it before.
ashen spindle
same, I dont really know when I'd need it so I never tried but it should work?
chrome estuary
god i love 4k
also LG fucking hates me
I want this so badly but it costs almost exactly as much as my Index did
zenith sonnet
@chrome estuary That's the wrong one
Here's the good one: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07T7K2V7L
chrome estuary
fuck your 1440p whatever hz bs
5120x2160 glory
look at this discord bullshit!
ashen spindle
uh, try not using the mode that cuts out profile pictures?
I've seen people have issues from that
crimson wigeon
Aww yeeahhh, and they said building interfaces with web technology would make it way better in every way
I also just flipped over to portrait orientation and am unable to repro
chrome estuary
repro?
crimson wigeon
Reproduce
chrome estuary
oh give it a bit.
sometimes it won't happen at all
sometimes it'll happen quickly
chrome estuary
some channels won't be affected at all, some will have massive spaces
it's completely fucking random
90 zoom, 90 font, compact is what my settings were
crimson wigeon
Although part of that might be me being a filthy Firefox user running this shit in a tab and Firefox doesn't render Discord 100% correctly for whatever reason...
chrome estuary
i'm using the actual app
crimson wigeon
And yeah I also use compact because why waste that much space on each message
chrome estuary
are you using compact in portrait with 90% zoom and font
because that's what i used and it gives me issues because discord is bad
ashen spindle
bc I have unused space on my 2nd monitor and it works better with emotes 
chrome estuary
this has been on different installs and different OSes and versions and everything
crimson wigeon
Discord is very bad yes.. I'm a 100%er however
chrome estuary
this font is just too big and wastes so much space
only way I can to 100% font scaling is with 80% zoom
this is what happens. It doesn't load all messages or some shit and so the latest message is nearly half up the text box
zoom or font doesn't change it at all it seems
cozy or compact doesn't either
this is a discord bug they're too useless to fix
crimson wigeon
OOoooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh
Yeah they don't expect anyone to want to see that much at a time, beign modern developers
chrome estuary
i fucking guess, i've even contacted discord about this... it look like two months to finally get to the end of it but they know it's an issue
basically saying get fucked
crimson wigeon
Much like all the other things people have been wanting since this thing first came out...
But hey you can now go live!!!
chrome estuary
i wish i was still on a discord server with the actual developers and owner of this terrible program
because i'd just @ the bastard and say, "Hey dude, your app is broken."
crimson wigeon
heh
chrome estuary
but i'm pretty sure I'd rather drink acid then go back to the 'official' linux discord
crimson wigeon
I wonder if they'd still read my email if I replied to the "Welcome to the Discord Alpha Preview" email like they say
chrome estuary
haha
also i really hate it when windows thinks i want my 4k monitor to be 300% zoom
like fuck off, i want 100% scaling
i don't give a floppy shit if my 4k is actually a 4k 43" TV
zenith sonnet
It knows it's a TV and scales for a typical viewing distance
old marlin
rip eyes
old marlin
85?
zenith sonnet
A bright room
Oh
It's just amazing to sit in a room with good CRI lighting
It has something of the feeling you get when you're outside, in the nature
Poor CRI makes you feel... supressed?
You'd be surprised how many things exist, you just don't know the technical details behind what you feel
zenith sonnet
It'll be like 50% brighter, and the light will be a lot better
earnest osprey
It would be really useful in say, far northern Alaska or Canada where there literally is no natural light for half the year
fickle ore
Those lamps are used to treat depression related to seasons
Fall time/winter time in scandinavia you dont see much light
I think I'll buy one this fall
5300K +- 300K, >90 CRI but doesnt say how much 😦
zenith sonnet
Same
Pfff
Doesn't mean your indoor lighting is less than ours :p
Well, indoor lighting here and there should be pretty similar
Just get a bottle of Vitamin D3
Artificial lighting doesn't help with vitamin levels
Even down south where I live, sun is too weak between October and March for the body to produce Vitamin D at all
Is that even a real thing?
I actually enjoy gloomy light levels, unless I'm using the computer
feral jolt
I love the snow
I have the reverse of this
The snow makes me happy and makes the night bright
fickle ore
.. 😄
You dont get natural light for 6 months.. It affects your brain chemistry basically
feral jolt
Sounds fine my natural clock tells me to sleep the day away anyway
fickle ore
u dont really understand
Go to Mordor for half a year first
anyway you dont even need to be diagnosed with.. No light affects your brain nonetheless and people living in far north act more gloomy because of it
I dont have this diagnosed and Im still getting the stupid lamp because I want to feel more energetic like I do at summer
feral jolt
I'm a cave troll
golden girder
@digital cliff @fallow bison
In short, ground is always the base of a cricuit, ground is typically earth due to safety. But for the device it doesn't matter.
So the word ground is a bit messy, ground in the generally means typically earth because it's common that the devices are set to that, but for a device perspective it means the baseline of the potential of the circuit.
The reason why the ground of the devices are normally set to earth is so it has no potential, so you only need to take care not to touch the positive connections. So ground can be all over the device which makes the circuit much easier.
reef patrol
And here I thought you abused free trials 😂
ashen spindle
I never really had issue with umedia, the few instances were solved fast and either from a broken modem or something on their end but even then only during night that I only noticed bc I was up till 4am
old telekom internet would stop working if there was thunder in a ~5km radius
zenith sonnet
I rarely had issues with Kabel Deutschland as well
About 80% of them were fixed by a technician exchanging the modem for a new one
Most of the time, the line is stable and speed is excellent
old marlin
I had some problems with umedia
like their shitty dns server
which crashes every night because it is also their update server
their loudaf horizon boxes
at least the newer ones
zenith sonnet
Lol
I've been using the vodafone DNS servers
Been fine so far
Only issue I have currently is an open ticket
Since February
That they identified as line fault (Netzfehler)
And is still open...
ashen spindle
I mean dns server isn't a big deal, it's quite easy to chane it to google/cloudflare
ashen spindle
ew
is that an app or a website? I've been looking for something to monitor my traffic that isn't as complex as wireshark
zenith sonnet
website
All it does is ping my connection, and summarize ping and packetloss into this image
ashen spindle
because I do sometimes have moments where my internet feels a bit slow for some apps/websites, but ping test to google is fine and I really cant read shit from the task manager ethernet graph
ashen spindle
but can it see what the traffic is coming from or just total usage?
ashen spindle
hrm might try it but I'm more looking for something where I can see where what program is using up/down bandwidth to see if its just chrome try to download too much or the connection itself
ashen spindle
yea that looks like what I was looking for, ty
crimson wigeon
not enough keys
pale sigil
Meh
chrome estuary
i hate those kinds of keyboards
not only is it a disgusting split piece of shit
It doesn't have a numpad.
ashen spindle
I dont understand what you mean then
old marlin
so you use standard dns settings?
likely found your problem lol
google how to change dns on your router
and set it to
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
ashen spindle
why on my router, should it not be the same if I do that via Ethernet Properties?
old marlin
you can do it via ethernet properties
but your router will change it for your phone etc too
old marlin
the shape is familiar
ashen spindle
but neither cloudflare nor google dns fixed the small slowdowns I sometimes have, already tried that
old marlin
rip
ashen spindle
its not bad, just annoying sometimes, but not happening much
just would like to know what causes it
chrome estuary
split keyboards are bad and so are you
Full keyboard master race
anything less and you're losing features for nothing
chrome estuary
IBM didn't sacrifice children to make a good keyboard for us to do stupid shit like remove features
chrome estuary
numpad
old marlin
a well designed 1800 layout board has everything
including numpad
sacrifices wasted space to make it more compact
didn't take off for mainstream boards unfortunatley
even though it can easily be shrunken to tkl size
thick elk
I do like my separate numpad though but for a gaming keyboard I really don't want one on the right side
reef patrol
Numpad or death.
reef patrol
chrome estuary
ugh, separate numpad
it's like you want to waste even more space than you're 'saving'
zenith sonnet
https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/blog/asus-rog-strix-xg279q-with-165hz-refresh-rate-and-adaptive-sync/
Looks like another refresh of the PG279Q/PG279QZ
thick elk
I have enough space on my desk I just don't want to have to move my keyboard to be even more off-center. (my desk is 3.2m wide anyway)
zenith sonnet
Might be better than the LG if it doesn't use that same old AU Optrinics panel any more...
This one is using the new LG panel...
https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/blog/acer-predator-vg272up-with-nano-ips-panel-and-144hz-refresh-rate/
thick elk
you also have the vg271up varient with the same panel a lower price but a garbage stand. For the price difference you can get a much nicer desk mount anyway
Personally as a monitor I am pretty interested at this one: https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_tuf_gaming_vg27aq.htm
ashen spindle
TwoDrive
zenith sonnet
@thick elk Reason I haven't bought the Aorus AD27QD, which seems to be superior to the Asus VG27AQ, is the same panel/overdrive issues
They all use the 4 year old AU Optrinics panel
Which is just a bit too slow for 144Hz
And nobody manages to make an overdrive curve that fits a decent portion of the VRR range
You need to either stay solid above 120, below 80, or in the 80-120 range for it to work well
Which just isn't possible
The new LG 27GL850 has an overdrive setting that covers the whole VRR range without overshoot, and it's faster than any AU Optrinics panel based monitor
thick elk
Does the lg panel have backlight strobing as that is kind of a must for me. It working with vrr certainly seems interesting. Also I probably mostly use the >100 hz part of vrr
zenith sonnet
@thick elk What are you mostly playing?
If you make little use of the entire VRR range, and mostly play at steady framerates, there might be other options
thick elk
Mostly overwatch as my main comp game. But I do sometimes play more demanding games as well. Just always happy turn down a few settings to get to a higher framerate. VRR is mostly for framerate dips
I just want a decent backlight strobing ips panel that doesn't depend on nvidea lockin garbage
zenith sonnet
Turning down settings doesn't always work
BL2 will dip below 50 occasionally, no matter what I do, for example
thick elk
Fair it is still a matter of how often it happens and really most games work fine most of the time on a 8700k @5ghz
Most of my playtime is overwatch anyway
zenith sonnet
If you can stay >120Hz almost all the time (overwatch should work), then the Aorus AD27QD is a good choice
The new LG panel is the fastest IPS on the market though, and might benefit you more for competitive gaming, even at a stable >120 FPS
It's faster than some 240Hz TN film panels, so that's something
The only drawbacks of it are poorer static contrast, and a few less features
glad scroll
Ads in terminal, the fuck? 
thick elk
@zenith sonnet but does the lg offer a good implementation of backlight strobing as that is pretty much a must for me. I know the aorus one is pretty bad on that front
thick elk
From what I know the blur it tends to solve mostly stems from the way our eyes precieve motion. which would really only otherwise be solvable with much higher refresh rates
pale sigil
or
just get a decent phone
😉
i haven't charged my phone since Sat
Then you're doing something wrong :p
even if im hammering by playing games etc
it lasts quite a bit
you been playing to much minecraft on it
why use Newpipe
glad scroll
Meanwhile I'm still running 6.0 
wheat plume
;-;
glad scroll
(Oh yeah, my manufacturer, Huawei, has dropped feature updates for the model, so yeah, unlikely to get it)
thick elk
Doesn't look al that interesting to me from what I have seen here.
I will probably be waiting for a while for proper tango roms to be released.
wheat plume
I have Pie but none of the Pie features are in it cause MIUI 10 ;-;
thick elk
as for animations I tend to turn those of in dev options
thick elk
Not at all, I do have some on but generally I just don't like animations. especially once that take more then 300ms
sadly you can't just turn all animations off
glad scroll
I wanna get a newer Huawei, cause I really like their phones, but with the recent trade war they are switching to their own os, so yeah, not pulling the pin on that grenade
wheat plume
I think they have permissions to use Android 10
thick elk
They can use whatever android version they want. Including google apps on new devices is where the problem lays
glad scroll
So, yes, they have permission to use android, but none of the google services
wheat plume
I wonder why they arent targetting other chinese phone brands like Xiaomi and Apple
cause aple are made there too
or are they made in India now? idk
glad scroll
Foxconn is moving to India, yeah
wheat plume
ahhh I see
I told someone bashing phones made in china is spyware
told them apple phones are made their too and they refuse to believe they arent made in cali
-.-
reef patrol
😂
reef patrol
😄
zenith sonnet
Dunno, is the XL worth the extra 80€?
reef patrol
Regular O11 or the Razer version for MOAR RGB preinstalled imo. Unless you REALLY need a ton of room and want to break you back further lifting it 😄
I strugged to fill mine out - With a custom loop.
zenith sonnet
How much are customs prints like that?
reef patrol
120? for the actual print. About double to hire a swedish artist to make the design from scratch 😄
ashen spindle
it took me forever to figure out, when you had that as your avatar, that it's a helmet on someone and not a mollusc
ashen spindle
ya at first it reminded me of the gen 1 fossil pokemon (omanyte or so) so I thought it's some kind of ancient shellfish lmao
reef patrol
Loosely inspired by one of his own works.
reef patrol
fixes
zenith sonnet
They only talked about improvements
ashen spindle
improving broken boost = fixing it
reef patrol
AMD got caught with their pants down, essentially lying about boost clocks, which just couldn't happen realistically.
ashen spindle
5 GHz on the Trailer for Pro cpus
also keep your eyes open for 3950x news this saturday @zenith sonnet
zenith sonnet
I'm still contemplating on waiting for a TR40 platform
And yeah, I'm waiting
Also, I don't think AMD lied about boost clocks
ashen spindle
no they just send out bad agesa binaries and arent helping mobo vendors with making boards
zenith sonnet
Plenty of users hit the max rated speed
ashen spindle
uhhh
about that
did you see der8auers video?
150/1000 for the 3700x is not what I would call "plenty"
reef patrol
😄
zenith sonnet
Yeah
It's sorta.. flawed? He'd have to control for cooling and discard any results with >55°C of CPU temp
Hell, if you use LN2, it'll still boost higher
ashen spindle
??? thats not what they advertised or what they are saying should be going on
zenith sonnet
Well, temp plays a huge role
reef patrol
Not really. It should hit that at some point with the stock cooler. Anything else is shady af 😄
zenith sonnet
And going above 60°C reduces your boost clocks
ashen spindle
imagine the outcry if a new intel cpu would only hit 4.9 instead of an advertised 5.0 with boost unless you put an liquid cooler on it....
reef patrol
If you can't even force it in a controlled environment using stock parts, it's an issue.
zenith sonnet
Well, intel has an issue with TDP, though
The 9900K will eat over 200W at those clocks
ashen spindle
sure but they hit advertised boost speeds and tdp is correct via their definition
pale sigil
true
ashen spindle
the thing going on with ryzen is closer to the ordeal they had with bulldozer cores
where they literally just settled a lawsuit and are paying
old marlin
But the 9900k is "the best" gaming cpu
reef patrol
😄
reef patrol
Still can't get over when I sold two of those to a school, where students on their eSports class OC'ed them to hell 😄
ashen spindle
MANSEN 
reef patrol
I wish I was kidding too.
old marlin
You usually do some 3d stuff with those specs
Those pcs were for beginner c++ and java developing
pale sigil
this is in the libary 😄
there is around 20 computers in a cluster for computing students or anyone to use if not used
and rest are 9700s
actual classroom pcs though are samsung 850s
ashen spindle
that usually happens when you get a budget, are close to the end of the time for it and need to spend it so you dont get less money next year
reef patrol
I hate companies that run budgets like that so much.
pale sigil
but its not just that
old marlin
It is called states
pale sigil
the tech building was a multi million pound project
ashen spindle
^
pale sigil
so they went all out
trhen the new catalyst libary was a new building built from ground up
in these cases it was in the budget itself
now when they wetn from 6700ks to 9700ks in classrooms in the tech building
that was tax based xD
pale sigil
old marlin
I may drop out too
Luckily i may be able to land a good job
Didn't even look for one but kinda got scouted
crimson wigeon
Yeah they should bring back the beautiful CGI ladies
reef patrol
The back is awesome. What's wrong with you 😁
old marlin
it fits to nothing
not eve ntheir own stuff
a weird grey, black brushed alu, rgb AND gold is just too much
reef patrol
Yup. Fits perfectly with my Taichi board. Or any diesel/steampunk build.
thick elk
as far as ugly cards go in my opion asus is really good at doing those
ugly motherboards as well
although my current gpu looks pretty ugly as well:
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1080XTREME-8GD-PP-rev-10#kf
I really wish cleaner approaches to looks would be the norm.
We don't live in the 0's anymore
reef patrol
And I here spend time adding grime to my motherboards to fit my theme. 😦
thick elk
Imagine how much grime you could fit on your motherboard if it had a clean look from the start
reef patrol
😄
My taichi was pretty clean. Mostly grey metal covers. Added some dirt to make them look more dieselpunk
thick elk
fair
I really don't mind the taichi look to be honest
It has a clear theme and roles with it.
ashen spindle
not unexpected, but still sad to see to intel now showing slides about amd boost not working as advertised on their IFA presentations instead of showing stuff about their own products :/
zenith sonnet
intel didn't really have anything of value to show for a while now
zenith sonnet
Also Nitro cards
zenith sonnet
I think I really might wait for TR
ashen spindle
do you need extra pcie lanes or why?
zenith sonnet
Well, that's the question
Is there anything I'll lose?
zenith sonnet
This looks like memory for me, lol
ashen spindle
??? samsung was reported to stop producing b dies 
zenith sonnet
Probably the last orders?
ashen spindle
maybe yea
reef patrol
NOOOOOOO
ashen spindle
?
reef patrol
I need my B Die for crappy AMD CPUs 😄
ashen spindle
well, order now
reef patrol
I just did - Just saying if B Die dies, Ryzen enthusiasts are going to be in pain.
ashen spindle
eh, micron e die is also nice
reef patrol
Micron... never heard of them being present on the RAM market. It's been either Hynix or Samsung's B dies since Ryzen came out. And what a ride that has been
ashen spindle
C M and A dies are made instead of B dies because its more profitable for samsung
reef patrol
I was so mad that my 1700 wouldn't even do 3200mhz on the RAM due to bad design
ashen spindle
crucial ballistix for example a really good and still cheap option for e dies
crucial is owned by micron iirc
zenith sonnet
Micron e-die is the next best alternative after Samsung b-die
ashen spindle
if you get a 3000 rated crucial ballistix kit you can assume you can most likely get it to 3733 and max out 1-1 timings
reef patrol
Whereas with Hynix, you can't even get what's rated 😄
ashen spindle
yeah hynix isn't great, neither ddr or gddr
reef patrol
Glad I got rid of mine recently for B dies. Also an excuse to grab the gaudy royal ram 😄
neat oriole
pale sigil
Well that was fast @wheat plume https://www.xda-developers.com/redmi-k20-pro-android-10-miui-update/
reef patrol
I love sticking it to companies with proprietary parts. Cat chewed through wife's headphone cable. New one costed a small fortune compared to buying a generic one and cutting it to fit.
Curse you Sennheiser! 😛
old marlin
generic ones will just easily get pulled out
while theirs is almsot as if it wasn't replaceable
be happy that you can replace it tbh
and yo ucan buy aftermarket cables for them
reef patrol
They were never intended to be pulled out. She uses them at home at a desktop. 🙂
And sure - I guess I should be grateful that they choose to put in a 2,5mm connector, instead of the cable going inside. But they could at least use a less thin cable for it. Had to strip down a standard 2,5mm to the wire, and then tape it up to make it fit inside of the connector hole.
Perfect fit though.
old marlin
which does she have?
reef patrol
Uh.... One of the momemtums I think? It's been a while since I reviewd them.
ashen spindle
Well, decided to finally oc my ram, let’s see how far it goes with only tweaking clocks and primary timings 
reef patrol
ashen spindle
Im on Intel so i won’t get that much and thus I’m not pushing for too much, but I felt I can definitely put this higher than 2133
Have it on 3000 now and doing a memtest, then see if I see any improvement in a benchmark
zenith sonnet
To bad the new Trident Z Royal kits are announced for Q4 2019
Still a wait
Then again, not sure if it's the best choice
I'm not gonna make use of the 4000 Mhz, but I can probably tighten the timings when I go down to 3733 or so?
ashen spindle
Hard to say, they aren’t directly linearly related
Also at 3000 mine did not like tighter timings so I had to reset cmos
Time to try again and see if it runs memtest and timespy and I’m done
3000 cl18 seems to be stable, timespy worked, got higher scores, now to run memtest to make sure its stable
crimson wigeon
Oh no, I think they changed something about the font, it's too bright and thicc IMO
extra thicc
crimson wigeon
Zink this new look is only on canary right now
zenith sonnet
AsRock x570 Aqua 🤔
zenith sonnet
i should get a headless home server too🤔 🤔
ashen spindle
uhh
look at the QVL list for the aqua
that is a joke lmao
Supports DDR4 5000+ (OC)
highest tested speed is 4133
nice
zenith sonnet
Tomorrow 3950X? pls?
ashen spindle
it is a day with a 7 so I expect them to use that for the announcement of the release date
worthy jackal
Anyone able to get analog working on linux (manjaro)? Wooting utility installs and works like a champ, but I can't get analog to working in CSGO.
I realize Linux isn't officially supported, but wondering if anyone had got it running.
Thanks!
ashen spindle
http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2019/09/lg-introduces-expanded-1ms-ultragear-ips-gaming-monitor-lineup-at-ifa-2019/ @zenith sonnet
crimson wigeon
zenith sonnet
Although the 38GL950G is a step in the right direction
I'd love to see a 32" UHD version with FreeSync
plush summit
We all know the answer is that you're poor and your internet is shit
That's megabits not megabytes
wheat plume
i went to my phone carriers store today to remove the age filter on the wifi
he said it would be gone within an hour...
it isnt gone :/
cause they enable it on any mobile data plan by default if you are under 18 and wen I got this plan I was under 18
yup
ashen spindle
plush summit
Shame
plush summit
Megabits
Not bytes
Devide by 8
DEVIDE BY 8 U LOSER
Still shit
Evidently u don't have one
(Where did the no u card emote go?)
Maybe ur isp is trying to save u by limiting your speed to Hersey
ashen spindle
plush summit
Is it a user manual on bd toys
To take care of them
Theres a manual on the site for instructions on how to take care of them
plush summit
F
Ir alao stuck using tor because if ur shit parents
I don't know why I have faster upload
Oh I'm connected to public Wi-Fi at the movies
ashen spindle
Your internet is trying to get away from you
ashen spindle
yes, the throttling is working
I wont because I'll just run from the consequences
then I disguise myself and run back and repeat
cheaper, friendlier to the environment, easier to find after a while
because we are not gone from coal and such to get electricity yet
and its not like you are really making a pc or anything just for the manuals, they already exists, you can save money if you dont need to change packages to add a manual sometimes
have you tried turning it off and back on?
you could tr something like downloading it to doogle drive then opening it there where it shouldn't time out
you need to set it up or use a plugin
zenith sonnet
Samsung A-die: 32 GiB/module at 2933 CL21-21-21 1.2v Jedec
ashen spindle
speaking of ram, getting 900mhz more out of my ram seems to be very stable 
ashen spindle
zenith sonnet
Why do some people react so badly to scary things?
ashen spindle
plush summit
@proud nacelle im adding a new mod
plush summit
the server
reef patrol
glad scroll
Hahahahahahaha
reef patrol
ashen spindle
wonder if they are waiting till the bios update to announce it at the same time since its talked a lot about
ashen spindle
if that one ever gets released lmao
but I dont think it changes anything
I cant really see the 3950x to have more performance in games
ashen spindle
I dont think it'll be better than the 3900
ashen spindle
sure but for non gaming the 3900x is already better, now it just jumps ahead
pale sigil
Cpus are an annoying game these days
Become like phones
At least with Intel anyway
Intel is the apple of the cpu world
If I could I'd go ryzen just for thst reason alone
ashen spindle
didnt know apple is mechanically failing to improve
great, then you'll get products that work on one and not another pc, please no
that'd be like pc/mac/linux compability issues squared
open source is not viable for everything and you know that
and sure, you can just add more time for development, enjoy having games have more issue, come out later and have more issues
or any software that needs any sort of that finetuning
how can fine tunin be avoided, especially for multiple architechtures?
I'm no really convinced that would fix everything, I cant see the compiler always knowing what I want to do and what exact optimization I want, or maybe writing something for one arch will just always be better so I'd need two variants because let's say x86 always does the integer math better than the other arch
so why make it so its even further away by adding more options that need to be covered
why is it shit?
or rather, what are the bad results of having to run on x86
uh
wrong channel? xD
vagrant ravine
I was scrolled up and the comment was no longer relevent to the conversation 
ashen spindle
I found some results but they were mostly talking about assembly and not direct results for bigger programs
okay its old, why is that bad, that's why I reworded my question
does it created bigger binary blobs? does it takes x times as long to do y? or what?
ashen spindle
no, locked down is not directly correlating to worse performance even if you would like to think that way
I asked why its bad not what you want
I know you'd prefer to have literally everything FOSS
violet trellis
is there a way to disable the windows key?
reef patrol
FN + Win if memory serves
violet trellis
it worked thank you
reef patrol
I need a lock on my bank account. Just casually spent 200€ on a new handheld. 😄
zenith sonnet
That's what bank is for
pale sigil
Put your money in your savings and lock it
reef patrol
ashen spindle
Does anyone have a solution for the "System" storage issue on iphones? aside from all the useless crap google shows
having 7gb on a 16gb phone not availible is starting to get annoying
zenith sonnet
Cleaned up a Samsung phone yesterday where Chrome ate 6 GiB of storage that didn't show up properly
Maybe something similar?
ashen spindle
nah on iphone there is a "system" part that is known to ate way to much
but nobody can ever see what it actually is
zenith sonnet
Probably profiling data
ashen spindle
7GB?
halcyon moss
7gb seems normal for an OS these days... 16gb phones shouldn't have been sold. too little storage
ashen spindle
It’s a 6s I got on release
An it’s Not is Memory, it fluctuates, had it at 4 at some point, was 9 yesterday etc.
And it’s known to be an issue, sometimes takes up 100gb+
ashen spindle
no it's a known issue across everything
old marlin
even better lol
reef patrol
Welcome to many years of updates.
zenith sonnet
LG 27GL850
Best in the QHD 144Hz class
It's good for the price and for having a VA panel, though
Wait
What's the difference to the C27HG70
That's the one that's good
glad scroll
C27JG50 has 3ms extra response time
It doesn't qualify for freesync 2 I believe, while the other does
zenith sonnet
Freesync 2 also requires some form of HDR
Which it doesn't have
Not that HDR400 is any good
wheat plume
I love these things
They are so pretty 😍
solar hinge
and expensive
fallow bison
Just make one with empty beer bottles, an arduino and 6 seven segment displays
crimson aurora
is dks still working with this new version of software: 3.3.3?
ashen spindle
is it not working for you since the update?
glad scroll
Nixie Tubes, a really beautiful way of displaying numbers, sadly very expensive though
reef patrol
glad scroll
They have very special requirements too, running at an incredibly high voltage for a display of it's size
wheat plume
Yeh!! I love that warm Amber glow
glad scroll
There are blue variants as well, but they rarely look good
wheat plume
I can't see that looking great
wheat plume
Don't like the underglow
glad scroll
@proud nacelle Nah, that was a variant of the orange
There is also stuff like this http://www.industrialalchemy.org/media2/pict11/blue1938.jpg
(Not my pic, btw)
chrome estuary
I'd love some blue Nixie tubes. Fake or not.
pale sigil
Nixie tubes are dope
ashen spindle
mansen getting the new intel cpus fairly early it seems
solar hinge
the 9900KSS
zenith sonnet
9900 SS 🤔
ashen spindle
9900KFC
solar hinge
ah sorry the 9900 K$$
ashen spindle
also the cascade X cpus should be next ones coming out this quarter
and if they drop the prices at least in perf/$ intel will have something better than amd
until the new Threadripper cpus come out
zenith sonnet
9900KKK
ashen spindle
zenith sonnet
TR40 16C probably
Maybe TR80 if the difference isn't too big
crimson wigeon
128 threads plz
zenith sonnet
I want per thread performance
TR comes with more PCIe and RAM channels
And arguably a more advanced chipset
ashen spindle
so TRX and not WRX is what you want?
ashen spindle
would make sense yea
definitely still single socket
maybe as an option two socket will be there
zenith sonnet
It has additional PCIe lanes beyond what the CPU can offer, and all that stuff
reef patrol
No 9900KS for me sadly. But I do have a 8700K for the bench, and a 750W PSU on the way, as well as an ATX Z390
The ITX board is for my LAN PC. Too smol for bench test
ashen spindle
don't think the ks will be send to reviewers tbh
reef patrol
I expect it will given how Intel needs a win against AMD, and they've spent a ton of marketing Dosh on making the KS seems better.
Muh Minecraft FPS, muh Windows Media player performance 😂
ashen spindle
ehh, some reviewers will buy it anyway, the 9900k is still the best for /only/ gaming and a better bin is mostly to get more money from it
wheat plume
Don't Intel want to use wonfows media player ad a benchmark to show real world performance?
:')
Windows**
I hate it so much I can't spell it right anymore from pure hatred
timid chasm
Forget Media Player Classic. I want that new Wonfows Media Player ❤
old marlin
is it as good as barbie linux?
wheat plume
Yeh
But it can't hold a competition to Hannah Montana Linux
reef patrol
Reviewers don't want to have to buy things. Especially not if they want their reviews out by NDA clear.
It's not uncommon to receive samples as much as a week or two, or at least a couple days early, because benchmarks and OC takes a long time to do and write up.
I don't remember if it was 3000 series or the 5700, but one of our testers spent an entire weekend getting our review ready.
ashen spindle
oh yeah but I dont think intel really needs/wants reviewers on the KS since it's effectively better binned 9900k cpus that they take an extra margin on, and most reviwers already sady the 9900k is the best for /only/ gaming
since I'd imagine a lot would say "get a normal 9900k and spend 5 minutes Oc'ing it"
old marlin
not all of them can do 5.0 all core
ashen spindle
yes but no game gets any benefits from that either
zenith sonnet
Give AMD/MS a little more time to improve AGESA and the Windows scheduler, and I think intel will lose what little performance benefit they have
thick elk
For a lot of people ocing is not something they are going to do.
zenith sonnet
@reef patrol And then there's sites that specifically test retail samples
ashen spindle
yes but I expect people who buy a 9900k(S) and don't oc at all are in the category that won't really watch reviewers anyway
for me it just looks like intel doesn't really gain anything from sending samples of it to reviewers which is why I can see them not doing it
reef patrol
There are - But those are a very different breed of reviewer.
Most reviewers care about being relevant - And that means having your review ready by the time you're allowed to post one.
Everyone past that are either late to the views, or they do something very different - like testing a wide sample size to see if there is reviewer bias and such.
ashen spindle
yes but why does intel care if the reviewers want it if intel doesn't? :p
reef patrol
Intel ultimately wants free/cheap PR, and having the YT reviewers post reviews at ETA 0:00 helps.
ashen spindle
well, it is pr sure, but is it pr they want if (what I'd expect to happen) every reviewer would say don't buy it unless you want a golden bin version?
reef patrol
That is a risk - But refusing samples at all might cause a similar "WAIT...WTF" reaction from customers.
If you won't offer review samples, that tells a very specific story
ashen spindle
could just say it's limited stock like with the 8086k and they want it in the hands of actual gamers not reviewers 🤷
we'll see what's happening when it comes to that date
reef patrol
It isn't limited though 😄
ashen spindle
I guess intel just having the biggest fps number on review charts by a bit more might be enough to consider it good pr
zenith sonnet
I wonder what spot the 3950X will take
inb4 Mansen reviews the 3950X and posts the competing intel bench system to fool us
ashen spindle
at this point I wonder if we get cascade x before we hear more aobut that chip
zenith sonnet
Lol
Still nothing on the X570 Aqua eithrr
Hmm
AGESA 1.0.0.3ABBA leaked
That name though
feral jolt
AGESA 1.0.0.3 "Dancing Queen"
reef patrol
reef patrol
Oh for Pete's sake. MS effed up the antivirus ... again. Can't disable it anymore on Home. It just ends up in a zombie state where it's turned on, but claims it's turned off.
I swear if I didn't have a Pro key laying around...
thick elk
Damn discord ruined the light theme hard this update.
They really have no clue.
I never really felt the need but now it's time to install better discord and fix this mess
zenith sonnet
What's wrong there?
thick elk
low contrast sidebar, needless use of bold text
or rather semibold instead of normal font weight
thick elk
But I just cannot stand reading more than a little bit of text on any dark theme
Most of the world has used light themes for good reasons
zenith mirage
They're all so close these days that it's just a status symbol
pale sigil
The only impressive thing about the new iPhone is the camera app 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ashen spindle
I mean its the same prices as last year so idk seems in line from what was expected
pale sigil
Idk why they did it so ugly
zenith mirage
Tbf, 3 cameras makes sense of you're the type to take a lot of photos
Normal, wide angle and telephoto lenses are handy dandy
Again, if you're the type
Otherwise they're just another gimmick
ashen spindle
yeah most noticeable upgrades are software, or new standards like 5g etc.
pale sigil
Same
ashen spindle
well, my 6s still works and I'll get the new ios so I'm all set
pale sigil
Idk how ipads still have huge bezels
ashen spindle
easier to make them more durable that way I imagine
pale sigil
My discord is being pooop
zenith sonnet
AMD released an official statement regarding 1003ABBA
Damn, that's sweet juice
ashen spindle
link?
zenith sonnet
old marlin
ashen spindle
probably same lcd screen as last years Xr
zenith sonnet
It's included in the update
old marlin
yup
ashen spindle
these changes can add approximately 25-50 MHz to the current boost
nice, if that sometimes also means more than 50 it should probably cover most users who had lower clocks
time to wait for testing with that
ashen spindle
still a thing but only for pros basically
sure but you also have no other feature than takin pictures, can the ones that are cheaper than an iphone even record something or only take pictures?
also whats the last good phone you used? digital zoom is far from perfect but still has gotten so much better with time
not too much into camera stuff as I barely even use any, but I know with multiple cameras you can do more than just upscaling via software
well it has to be supported on a hard and software side
misty saffron
gotta say, apple's camera stuff looks incredibly nice now
if the photos they show here (https://www.apple.com/iphone-11-pro/) aren't heavily edited, it looks impressive
i'm sure that ultrawide camera beats the one in my galaxy s10+ just cause of dynamic range and nonexistent barrel distortion
pale sigil
They are always heavily edited
misty saffron
honestly I don't doubt that
I might even switch back to iphones if the image quality is actually not too far off from that
zenith sonnet
@ashen spindle I think they meant that you can achieve 25-50MHz more than the rated boost clock of the procesor
ashen spindle
erm no, they are implying that's what most people were missing from the advertised boost clock
zenith sonnet
Some users have been reporting that they saw speeds of 4625-4650 on a 3900X, or 4450 on a 3700X
ashen spindle
you might also get more if you were already hitting the target but this is clearly a fix to hit the advertised clocks
zenith sonnet
Other people that fell 100-200MHz short are also seeing the correct speeds now
So, that's really nice
Everything working as expected now
Only took them 2 months
(you can read that as bad, or good)
ashen spindle
mostly neutral as it was not a gigantic loss in performance and it was fixed fairly soon
warped dove
Oh crap it is blurry..
chrome estuary
yeah and the scaling is all fucked up now
latent mural
I read reddit posts that they meant to support the hobbyist/diy market, but how's that going to work?
and lol Xeanoa. AMD launches are often bad, I'd never buy their stuff on release. But they always seem to get it sorted out, except for some of the Vega stuff.
ashen spindle
are there any reviews out there yet that tried flashing the XT bios on a 5700 non-XT and tested the results?
@zenith sonnet ?
zenith sonnet
I've heard about it
But haven't seen any
All it seemingly does is alter the clocks and voltage tables
ashen spindle
well I'd love to know how close it gets to the XT with it
if its the good old "flash software to upgrade hardware"
feral jolt
I think tweaking would get you more results
zenith sonnet
Anyone know what processor is in the Switch?
And how it compares to the Snapdragon 855 or whatever the flagship is?
ashen spindle
should be a Tegra?
zenith sonnet
I dunno anything about the Switch at all :p
old marlin
the tegra is basically an nvidia shield
running linux
instead of android
according to nvidia it is "twice as fast as an apple A8"
sick creek
plush summit
latent mural
@ashen spindle @zenith sonnet I'm not sure if it works on the reference card, but it works on flashing the 5700 red devil to the 5700 xt red devil
97% the same performance when flashed.
ashen spindle
yeah but what about temps, voltage etc. wonder if it would be stable longterm
latent mural
It might only work on custom cards where the XT and non-XT have the same PCB.
Flashing is what increases the voltage limit. The 4 less CUs stays the same
stable, a little better temps than XT
It's the same as how Vega flashing was where it doesn't unlock the CUs but it increases voltage limits. But yeah, die quality might not be better. At the same time, sometimes die quality is BETTER because the 4 worst CUs were disabled. And Red Devil 5700 probably have binned dies to begin with.
ashen spindle
sure but before I recommend it a friend whos not experienced with it I just would love some more data on it
latent mural
@ashen spindle as I said only confirmed to work with the Red Devil https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/czhux1/psa_you_can_take_the_bios_from_a_5700_xt_and/
But pretty seamless from what I've heard other than that
As of Vega, you can no longer do custom BIOS. So a better BIOS needs to happen to work on a lower SKU card
ashen spindle
@wheat plume since you are now apparently doing stuff on windows I feel like this would be something you'd like https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys
wheat plume
Yeh
I know of this
It's pretty interesting but I am trying to use windows as less as possible
I use Linux when I don't need to use it
:')
reef patrol
New toys 
ashen spindle
supporting the wooting partner by going all out on a titanium psu I see 
reef patrol
To be fair it's sponsored. Were also partners with Seasonic
9900K already mounted to one of the boards.
glad scroll
wheat plume
reef patrol
😂
zenith sonnet
That's yours? And there I wondered what the fuck is wrong with that font 😂
wheat plume
Yeh
Xd
Was using the pen
glad scroll
Damn, I always dislike signing a digital signature when getting a ups delivery
cause they have touch and pens too, sometimes they are horribly out of sync
glad scroll
And doesn't even write where you touch it 
wheat plume
I have a very long name ;_; I have to write it really small
But drawing on this tablet was great
I wish there was more friction though
It was a bit too slippery
But ofc it's glass so there won't be
glad scroll
Feels very unnatural?
glad scroll
I think mine is even worse than that, so yeah
glad scroll
So yeah, you're not alone ^_^
wheat plume
I was once failed an exam in school because the examiner aooate toy couldn't be bothered trying to read my writing
Luckily it was a subject I could drop anyway
glad scroll
You could probably overargue it if you needed to
wheat plume
Yehh
But I was due to change subject at the end of the term anyway so it didn't matter
If it was a cute subject I would have to argue it
glad scroll
glad scroll
Close enough
wheat plume
Nahh
glad scroll
Nuclear reactor cute 
wheat plume
Xd
We learned how to make one of those in physics class
Also how to calculate the speed of light using cheese and a microwave
ashen spindle
hm?
reef patrol
Zoom in on the CPU socket.
A lot of those are not like the others. Collided with a waterblock. Not sure I can salvage this tbh.
reef patrol
I'd be a lot more upset, if I didn't pick up two Z390 boards today. Still...hurts to damage sonething like this on accident
ashen spindle
is it one bent pin on the top rigth side?
reef patrol
ashen spindle
ah ok so I did see the right thing
reef patrol
Notice the odd patterns. It's all supposed to be uniform. Any deviance is a bent pin 😔
reef patrol
In other, less jarring news. Testbench is officially live.
wheat plume
glad scroll
LMAO
I'm kinda curious how they managed to put that together after losing intel, nvidia and more
ashen spindle
for now they prob still have a decent stock on chips
glad scroll
Ah, I see
wheat plume
I want it
reef patrol
solar hinge
@reef patrol are you going to do it DOA?
solar hinge
aka RMA because it was Dead on Arrival :p