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reef patrol
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*Free of charge, 2-year guarantee for all goods
You always have the right to a minimum 2-year guarantee at no cost, regardless of whether you bought your goods online, in a shop or by mail order.

This 2-year guarantee is your minimum right, however national rules in your country may give you extra protection.

If goods you bought anywhere in the EU turn out to be faulty or do not look or work as advertised, the seller must repair or replace them free of charge or give you a price reduction or a full refund.*

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Based on Danish consumer rights 😄

pale sigil
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Not sure because in the UK no one goes by this.

reef patrol
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Then they are breaking the law 😄

pale sigil
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After the first year you have to go via the manufacturer.

ashen spindle
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you arent out of the eu yet

pale sigil
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Literally all stores.

reef patrol
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But - If they don't budge, then you gotta fight for your right.

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Technically it's 6 months of them having to prove you fucked it up, and then 18 months of the opposite. But it's a CPU. It isn't delidded, and it isn't on fire.

They can't really claim you fucked it.

pale sigil
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Either way

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ill take your advice

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messaged them

reef patrol
pale sigil
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its 1 year 4 month old

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atm

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i have legit

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had nothing but issues

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since having it

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it started off very well and just went downhill

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i wish i did something earlier

reef patrol
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I promise to ask you first, when I sell one of my 8700Ks 😄

ashen spindle
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delid it and put your worst TIM under it as a special bonus pepeXd

reef patrol
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Both are already delidded 😄

warped dove
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You really perplex me, .mrpleasant

pale sigil
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wdym

warped dove
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You're playing games right now at 80c? lol

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this is fine

reef patrol
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I mean...it is

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But it isn't super longterm.

warped dove
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I have heard that it takes >70c to degrad the plastics slowly

reef patrol
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Apple prefers a toasty 100C 😄

warped dove
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perfect for planned obsolescence

pale sigil
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well rn with intel turbo off im at 55-60

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on d2

warped dove
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When I had overheat problems I suspected everything imaginable about the motherboard before discovering there was just a tiny bubble of air in my AIO... anyway
you gotta investigate your mobo, its a big complex piece of hardware, VRMs could be pooping too much energy in, so many factors that I probably never enough imagined

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turn any mobo brand "enhancements" off in the bios

wheat plume
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Why not gnome terminal??? I havent even heard of kings cross before but it seems to be a clone of gnome terminal but a lot less features

feral jolt
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looks like the b450 tomahawk finally got that well needed bios update for zen2

ashen spindle
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still good to hear since it probably means nvidias cards next year will not be as gigantic as they are on rtx cards lmao

fallow bison
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Does anyone know why my 2600 OC's to 4GHz max using bios, but 4.2 with ryzen master

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voltages seems identical in CPU-Z

ashen spindle
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hm I know that 3rd gen has that, didnt know it also has the effect on earlier chips

fallow bison
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Yeah apperantly

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Its so weird

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And ryzen master cant autoapply ffs

ashen spindle
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well, master can better make use of applying it directly to ccx/ccd etc. since its from amd

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since they are a bit more combined than just being cores on the same die

fallow bison
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Oh it also selects best performing cores

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Dont know if bios oc does that

ashen spindle
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nah in bios you either select all core or whatever is identified as #1 core

fallow bison
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Yeah i just adjust the multiplier lol

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Not gonna bother doing per core oc

ashen spindle
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recommended one friend a rtx and another an rx card just now, balance is kept botHappy

fallow bison
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imagine recommending rtx

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Tbf if more games were to support it, i would love to own one

ashen spindle
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give me a better/same performance card then smugSip

fallow bison
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but for now it def isnt worth the hefty price

ashen spindle
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ew

earnest osprey
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I got rtx just for the non rtx performance

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I was going from a 970 as well

ashen spindle
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I saw your disgusting recommendation @fallow bison rooWut

fallow bison
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Here i am with an rx580 and an empty bank account

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Its the student life

earnest osprey
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Easy, make your account not empty

pale sigil
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970 still decent

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tbh

ashen spindle
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just change the minus to a plus whenever there is something wanting money from you weSmart

pale sigil
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I had a 970 for like 8 months

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xD

earnest osprey
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I had two 970s for about 4 years

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Gave up on sli eventually, put my two displays on separate gpus

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Then upgraded to an rtx 2070

warped dove
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yeah multiple GPU is too much hassle for devs and hardware and not profitable

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sad many disregarding it cos i just got a second gpu for 40£

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still, it means there's basically no reason to build anything but miniITX for normal users

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which is great for lots of reasons

earnest osprey
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At the time two 970s was less money than a single 980

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Like 250 x2 vs 600+

warped dove
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just dont feel bad about your next upgrade because freesync is worth it

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oh im sorry, nvidia verified gsync ready VRRC tm

earnest osprey
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I have a gsync 165hz monitor

thick elk
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I have one of those as well but sadly I think next upgrade I will have to let it go. Besides it being a tn panel I preferably don't want to go nvidia again.

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I do like that all the gsync panels have backlight strobing build in and non gsync panels that have it are somewhat limited

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120hz backlight strobing > 165hz gsync if you hit the required framerate (and your rooms is not too bright)

earnest osprey
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Mine is ips

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1440p

thick elk
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going ips was kind of out of budget when I got mine

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I also prefered to get 24 inch

earnest osprey
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Well, wasn't a cheap monitor, I can admit

warped dove
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^it's a mouse

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i expected a preview

earnest osprey
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Has a wire, not for me

warped dove
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ironic

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you've tethered yourself to wireless

earnest osprey
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But wireless is better

warped dove
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yes theoretically mind control is better

earnest osprey
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Uh

ashen spindle
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I have one of those mouse cable bungies, makes it feel wireless so thats a good solution too

earnest osprey
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No thanks

ashen spindle
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

earnest osprey
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It's nice to just not have the wire at all

ashen spindle
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I guess

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if you cover my eyes and make me compare it to a wireless one I just couldnt notice a difference at all

feral jolt
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I play with a large mousepad and low sensitivity

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I might not notice the wire 95% of the time but when I do it's a problem

pale sigil
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i play with a large mouse mat and a high dpi 😄

earnest osprey
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I can definitely feel the wire really easily when I take my g703 to work and have to use the cable cause I lost the wireless dongle

feral jolt
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Wires dont matter as much if you are playing with your wrist

ashen spindle
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400dpi, 40x40 mat, genuinely dont notice it

earnest osprey
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Have you done a side by side?

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Comparison*

ashen spindle
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dont have a wireless mouse so thats hard, I just tried swingign it around and try to feel if I can notice the cable dragging/stopping or smth like that

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where I could clearly notice it on my old mouse when I didnt use the bungie

earnest osprey
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You don't realize how much you feel the wire until it's not there

ashen spindle
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granted the phantomcord is already very nice

warped dove
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one day maybe evryone will use wireless and we'll discover that wired is better than we'll have to campaign to convert people back

ashen spindle
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well for headsets I'm a wireless shill for sure

earnest osprey
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To be fair, now I have a wireless charging mousepad so that I don't forget to charge the mouse

warped dove
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i have a bluetooth 5 low latency headset coming in the mail but im sure it'll lag

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it can be wired too thankfully

earnest osprey
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Bluetooth and low latency? Funny

ashen spindle
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I have a sennheiser headphone and it's godly

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batteries last close to 24 hours

earnest osprey
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I honestly think my pixel buds sound as good as my Urbanite XL

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when there isn't a ton of background noise

fallow bison
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Do you know if there are certain drivers / troubleshooting utilities for samsung 970 evo's? @reef patrol

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I have installed the basic drivers from their site

reef patrol
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Not aside from checking their firmware with Magician. Be sure to backup first

fallow bison
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gonna download that

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good point

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Oh its latest

reef patrol
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Bad or buggy firmware can definitely cause slowdowns. We've had to flash some A400 SSDs that would become slower over time. Firmware update later and it ran like a beauty again.

fallow bison
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250gb, living on the edge

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but it all seems fine

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perf benchmark gives good results

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Im really confused

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Wondering if it might be my mobo / storage controller?

ashen spindle
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well, you havent really told us your problem, have you?

fallow bison
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Was in another channel :P sec

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Do you by any chance have a clue why my laptop M.2 ssd feels faster than my desktops?
Its the same model but it really feels snappier

ashen spindle
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is it connected to pci lanes from the cpu or the chipset?

fallow bison
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I have no clue, not that technical lol

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Its the only m.2 slot available, its a Gigabyte b450 aorus m

ashen spindle
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mobo manual should have the info usually

reef patrol
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Motherboard

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Only CPU if it's in a PCI-E port

fallow bison
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Psure yes

ashen spindle
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dont the ryzen cpus have enouhg lanes for one m2 ssd and still cover gpus?

reef patrol
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It could be a bad controller in theory - But we're definitely leaning towards defective more than "worse quality", since they're all very similar.

fallow bison
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Defective ssd or mobo

reef patrol
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Ryzen or not - The Motherboard southbridge still handles M.2 on the board itself. CPU controls the PCI-E port bandwidt

fallow bison
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only difference between my pc and laptop is that my pc uses ryzen and laptop intel

ashen spindle
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I remember some mobo review that talked about it but I'm not spending couple hours finding it again lmao

fallow bison
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you shouldnt

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I can live with it, just wanted to know if theres a fix that you guys know of

ashen spindle
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does it just feel slower or did you get lower results from bandwith tests?

fallow bison
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Performance bench are a-okay

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just feels less snappy

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kinda sluggish sometimes

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Response times seem okay, 0.1 - 0.5 ms

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sometimes a lil spike to 1 ms

feral jolt
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Are both drives the same size

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And equally full?

fallow bison
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no, pc = 250, laptop 500

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but does that really matter?

pale sigil
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yes

fallow bison
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o

pale sigil
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i have no context

feral jolt
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Bigger nvme is faster

pale sigil
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i just said yes for no reason

fallow bison
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but yes, there is about the same amount of data on it

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and read / write speeds are the same

feral jolt
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I'm not sure on the specifics of why but bigger nvme is faster

fallow bison
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in a margin, but thats negotiable

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Ill just go to the hardware shop i got it from, maybe they know something / can test it

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i really dont want to make that big of an issue of it

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its not that i cant live with it

earnest osprey
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Higher capacity ssds tend to have more flash modules, which means more modules that can be writen to/read from at the same time, assuming the flash controller has the bandwidth to do so.

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An analogy to that would be putting more platters in a spinning hard drive

zenith sonnet
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Or more RAM sticks in a computer

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If the CPU supports the channels

zenith sonnet
zenith sonnet
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Also X590 and X599 chipsets

ashen spindle
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yeah idk what the point of x590 would be tbh

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vrm is good enough on x570, you even have variants for water cooling it

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early rumours were 570 gets pcie3 and pcies 4 comes on 590 but that clearly was scrapped

zenith sonnet
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VRM isn't directly related to the chipset

feral jolt
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but all x570 boards on that list could handle TR 3950x right

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based on VRMs

ashen spindle
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yes thats what I meant, aside from some low end boards

zenith sonnet
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Maybe it's a 'consumer' version of the TR chipset

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With features like X570 but TR support

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X599 of course is TR chipset

feral jolt
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maybe TR's will OC decently and x570 wont handle it as well

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but thats a pipe dream at this point

ashen spindle
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erm 570 is not for TR anyway?

feral jolt
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it doesnt fit?

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or it cant handle it

ashen spindle
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different socket since first gen TR?

feral jolt
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oh

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that somehow got past me for a few years 😂

ashen spindle
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tr chips are like twice the size of a desktop ryzen

zenith sonnet
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The pic is missing Epyc

ashen spindle
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because they are just like TR

halcyon moss
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🤔 I'm glad grub exists when dual booting

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Also, feel free to move back to LILO

karmic grail
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Pre-built vs Homebuilt

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We never used it since it was so filled with dust

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Just used a USB - card reader

pale sigil
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Wot

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Not that I'm complaining xD

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But this was rather easy

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"Hello Callum,

Greetings from Intel Customer Support.

Given your dissatisfaction with the performance of your current unit, we are prepared to offer you a one time RMA for the processor, as a goodwill gesture.

If you find this agreeable, in order for us to process a warranty return, please provide us with the following:

your complete contact info (full name, phone number, complete ship-to address including zip code)

clear pictures of your processor with visible markings (the FPO and partial ATPO)

Best regards,"

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Luckily I have a pic from before putting the hyper 212

fallow bison
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Oh damn, nice

karmic grail
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wot CPU?

pale sigil
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7700k

timid chasm
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get rid of that damn cpu already

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you do nothin but complain about it or have issue with it.. Throw it in the bin!

pale sigil
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@timid chasm when I get a replacement

reef patrol
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😄

wheat plume
pale sigil
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i want one also

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ngl

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xD

wheat plume
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The genisis on its own starts at 2 grand

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and this one is specced to the maximum

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so probably my guess of 12 grand is maybe too low??

pale sigil
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xD

wheat plume
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I found a 2 grand CPU

ashen spindle
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want to see a 20 grand cpu?

wheat plume
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O.o

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Uhhh

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sure

wheat plume
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huuuh??

ashen spindle
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xeon platinum 8280

pale sigil
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Please hate on him

ashen spindle
reef patrol
chrome minnow
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@pale sigil im poor as fuck dont hate

ashen spindle
chrome minnow
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a friend of mine bought 2 of those...

ashen spindle
chrome minnow
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shit you can do when you have a successful company

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maybe not the same model but definetly an intel cpu in the above 10.000 price range. dont know the market.

ashen spindle
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well if a company buys it that is normal since that's what they are made for :p

chrome minnow
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is something like that used for servers?

ashen spindle
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cloud servers, machine learning etc.

chrome minnow
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ahh okay thats why he bought them...

ashen spindle
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that is not something used for just video rendering, compiling or anything like that lmao

chrome minnow
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his whole house is a fckin computer

pale sigil
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sounds like he's living life

pale sigil
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aww they didn't upgrad e it xD

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getting another 7700k

reef patrol
pale sigil
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i cant complain :p

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i hate not having a printer

warped dove
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Intel still making several dozen core CPUs eh?

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oh cool they had 64 core server cpu's back in 2016

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they had a few prototype 64 cores several years before and would let you use one if you could evidence a novel concurrent use for it that isn't better served by dedicated chips like gpus

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pro type to anyone short on cash, just do something worth thousands of dollars and get paid for it thonk

ashen spindle
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yeah they could've increased the cores on desktop cpus a long time ago

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but that would've lowered their gain

feral jolt
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what does a 64 core server cpu even look like, could i use it as a breakfast plate?

warped dove
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well the dies would be so big that they'd never be profitable because 85% of the wafer would go into the recycling bin

feral jolt
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does that matter when you charge upwards of 20k for a chip

ashen spindle
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left one is the 58 core one they have

warped dove
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not just that conan, you could use it as a stovetop

feral jolt
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looks like about the size of a coaster for drinks

ashen spindle
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well its a similar size to TR/epyc from amd

earnest osprey
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Ibm has 64 core arm cpus I think

ashen spindle
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cant really compare arm/x86/whatever else like that

warped dove
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Yeah risc scales up far more simply

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I'm curious, 2 laptops from now I'll probably be using an a several dozen core arm based laptop for them compile times

ashen spindle
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hrm think it'll still be some more time before that happens

warped dove
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I thought gaming and processor progress was dead last year

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Literally only need to watch audiovideo and analyse+link+compile code for a developers laptop because lord knows they have no time for vidya

earnest osprey
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I think a general shift to arm/risc is a good overall thing, but that kind of paradigm shift takes a while

ashen spindle
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aside from how good it is or not, it will take a lot more than that to convince laptop makers to use them when it limits what the tool they want to sell can do etc.

warped dove
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As soon as google or apple makes laptops using extremely high profit margin arm CPUs and makes them seem kinda premium, fashion or status symbols...

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the only uphill paradigm shift I see is them gamers but if google is selling stradia to all the kids...

earnest osprey
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Arm servers are already a thing hence IBM still being in buisness but

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Not ready for the home PC no

warped dove
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oh i didn't mean that the processors would even be advertised btw, just the outside, but they could be lucrative for the makers

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that's my suggestion

earnest osprey
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I suppose you would get weird looks if you went "WITH ALL NEW BLAZING FAST ARM BASED CPUS"

warped dove
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^they could go the freedumz angle

ashen spindle
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" I want a laptop not a mechanical arm, sir"

warped dove
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^ consumers are actually this dumb; this is an unironic problem

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apple are peddling the freedums angle and USAs freedumbiers are eating it up on the most locked down closed tax evading megacorp ecosystem in history xD

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Now with apples arm based super secure never hackable laptop processors

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because ur unique and special

ashen spindle
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I mean I still dont get why intel stopped naming it "Intel inside" that was like the best marketing slogan anyone ever had in the techspace

earnest osprey
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Im pretty sure they still have that

warped dove
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They still have the jingle

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but it seems that laptop makers are ashame or atleast not paid to play it anymore

ashen spindle
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sure they still have it just dont use it anywhere anymore

earnest osprey
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Is risc arm based or completely unique?

warped dove
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really losely, risc is a style of processor design

earnest osprey
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Ah, but it has a similar premise and instruction set

warped dove
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definitively it just means that the instructions are limited and the built in circuits are not a ranging and specialist, not a complex

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not as much to learn to claim to be a master of low level programming for a risc style processor

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trying to think of a really apt analogy

earnest osprey
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It would be like, building a pc yourself or chosing parts and have nzxt bld do it

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Doing it all yourself needs more know how and tunning and all that

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Nzxt bld you still have to consider the hardware but less work tunning and things and you don't need the same understanding about hardware

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Would that work?

wheat plume
warped dove
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jesus no, réx lol

wheat plume
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Speaking of building PC, my friend irl got his parts for the PC he is putting together, they should be here tomorrow!!

warped dove
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how about this. risc is farming plants, cisc is farming animals.

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I wonder if RAM requirements held risc back in the long distant past... but these days working data is incomparably more in volume than processor instructions

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So anyway @wheat plume you gonna get an internship at RedHat?

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All they want is people who play with linux all day and have been to university for 2 years

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Please can you configure some profiles for the wooting 2 for arma 3 for me then?

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thx

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squad too

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are you saying that you were lying

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and don't really enjoy configuring stuff for hours on end?

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that sounds reasonable

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take as long as you need

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honestly i haven't checked for squad but the game is still in "alpha"

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and the arma one is configged for the wooting 1 and I've been getting to luck fixing it for analogue movement

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I don't suppose there's some kinda bounty system for profiles+keybind settings for the wooting yet

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Would I gift someone a whole copy of arma and DLC to set it up well for me, maybe

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would i do it if my time was worth like 20 euroes per hour, definitely

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bountry rewards can be anything from rep to a thankyou to money

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I didn't define

crimson wigeon
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Because systemd is swallowing every "lower" level thing in the stack

ashen spindle
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time to rebel and go on win10

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do it I dare you vvSmug

plush summit
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says the person that has a computer than can barely play minecraft

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i wonder who runs who

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do yiu run the computer

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or does the computer run you

wheat plume
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So anyway @Lana you gonna get an internship at RedHat?

Yeh, I cant code 😂

warped dove
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dood coding is easier than configuring linux : p

wheat plume
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no

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not at all 😂

ashen spindle
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Yes

wheat plume
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you can point and click to confige Plasma and GNOME and desktops

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you have to code somewhat to configure window managers like i3 though

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That is why I dont go back to i3, it takes too much time to set it up the way I want

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I loved it though ❤ when I was using it

crimson wigeon
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Obviously you should use Stumpwm then

feral jolt
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I thought programming would be cool until I took an intro to C++ college course

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Luckily my roommate was about to graduate with a programming degree and helped me pass

crimson wigeon
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Yeah it's wonderful, I've spent some time trying to patch up a C++ thing and damn, just one screwup in a line and the compiler spits out like a hundred lines of nonsense

feral jolt
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I guess that's why I got a C on the final with code that wasn't remotely close to working

ashen spindle
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especially in C++ it gets 10x easier once you know how to make good use of the debugging tools you have in VS

crimson wigeon
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And that's why I don't like dealing with the STL and such

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On that note fuck headers modules can't come soon enough

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maybe then it won't print out entire system headers yeah that's where the error is THANKS!

wheat plume
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wtf is a segfault

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ahh

crimson wigeon
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Well that's why you check out the dump

wheat plume
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they are that small inside??

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oo

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damn

ashen spindle
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well we are also moving to m.2 as an ssd standard

feral jolt
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maybe it functions as a heatsink or something

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my m.2 gets hot as shit under heavy load

thick elk
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I see no thermal pads so no

ashen spindle
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oh they do

thick elk
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Unless you throw to many led's on them

ashen spindle
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just depends on what ssd we talking about

thick elk
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kingston cough cough

feral jolt
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lets see my m.2 peaked at 58c since my last restart 49 hours ago

ashen spindle
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cmon discord you can load a picture

feral jolt
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what is with gigabyte these days

thick elk
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It's mostly the controller not the nand and pushing very fast memory does create heat

ashen spindle
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granted, thats a pcie 4 ssd

feral jolt
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gigabyte has some weird style for all their aorus stuff and i dont like it

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are they trying to be egyptian themed or something

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does it really matter

reef patrol
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Rumor has it the bird logo is Horus. Renamed.
So ehyptian makes sense

feral jolt
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i guess if you are doing a mini itx pcie 4.0 build with stacks of SSD's it could matter

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in that case you could just take the shells off yourself though

reef patrol
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And the metal acts as passive cooling.

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I literally just googled "SSD internals" 😄

feral jolt
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it looks photoshopped

reef patrol
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It's a 3D render from Samsung

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It's representative 😄

thick elk
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I had to open one of my ssd's once I had a 120gb crucial m4 and I moved it over to my laptop however it was to thick so I removed the mid frame taped it all together and it fit perfectly. \

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*works

reef patrol
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Smaller ones don't need the entire case. Larger ones do, since its just more modules.

thick elk
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It's once again in my desktop housing my arch install

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I was just talking about the thickness though in my case

feral jolt
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yeah its wasted space

reef patrol
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I hope I don't need to remind you that 2TB and larger SSDs exist.

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They keep the form factor to stay on standard.

feral jolt
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not min/max enough for me

reef patrol
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If you want min/max go M.2 Sata 😄

feral jolt
#

i did

#

wait no its m.2 nvme

reef patrol
#

Doesn't matter. Same physical standard.

#

M.2 was/is a way to waste less space.

#

I assume because too many chips don't stack well with the same controller.

#

Also...

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BIG BOYE

thick elk
#

The main issue is that at that point you would have to start stacking which causes heat issues.

feral jolt
#

i paid 130 for my terabyte 3500r/3000w m.2 nvme

#

really quite affordable

thick elk
#

Mostly though consumers generally don't need ssd's that big

#

Servers just use more smaller ssd's

#

So yea one may exist but there is a reason it's not popular

earnest osprey
#

Sata II ssd??

#

Which hard drive?

#

My caviar blue is like 100-140 MB/s

#

No

#

It's just a caviar blue

#

That's sequential performance though I think

#

Sata 2 ssd would last twice as long in theory

#

Cause half the amount of iops in the same time

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Ssd failure is still hell

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I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to have ssds keep track of the "off" voltage for each cell though

#

Fair

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It would allow an ssd to say when it will fail though

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Another way is just put a counter on iops and have it just yell at you when it gets close to the rated amount

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Awesome for mission critical data storage

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Overkill for home user

warped dove
#

lol rex big nope on your assertion that sata ii ssd would last twice as long

#

ssd's are degraded by write amount, not speed

earnest osprey
#

You would be writing less to it in the same amount of time

warped dove
#

that doesn't make any sense is any scenario except for if you wrote to them constantly and persisently in a torture test

earnest osprey
#

Also I suspect the reason for the low speed is it would be 1 bit per cell nand

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Which also means three times the iop limit as tlc nand

warped dove
#

the only implication of more bits per cell is that once you puut too many bits the separation between the matter holding that data is smaller so it degrades quicker theoretically but materials and processing are improving as density improves

earnest osprey
#

Three times the voltage creep room is very significant

thick elk
#

From what I know its the complete oposite

earnest osprey
#

If hamr drives are successful you will be able to saturate SATA 3 and also get 100TB in one drive

thick elk
#

harddrives tend to fail more randomly

earnest osprey
#

Not nescesarily

thick elk
#

Not always

warped dove
#

physical reliability should be a non issue to you since you should be using a backup service for your very few personal files that can't be easily found online and manufacturer warranty covers your from sudden failure

thick elk
#

Backups are a thing

#

From what I know the only reliability scenario where ssd's tend to fail compared to hdd's is cold storage

#

but at that point you may as well go with tape drives

warped dove
#

its a great ecosystem, you can use whatever storage solutions you like at whatever costs

earnest osprey
#

If you barely use your ssd it will last way longer than a hard drive

thick elk
#

Barely being the magic word here

earnest osprey
#

Which is why it's completely fine for most users

#

Barely is like

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More than you even use

thick elk
#

still hard drives do last longer unpowered

warped dove
#

OK so..

#

I've literally never heard of one person mention a SSD failure

#

not even reaching their maximum writes

thick elk
#

Hard drives have been known to self destruct motor failure is a thing and there is really no hard limit on when a hdd fails it does at some point

warped dove
#

but the internet is full of people complaining about disk drive failure and i had my first one ever last month

earnest osprey
#

If you are nice to your hdd you are good for like 10 years no problem

warped dove
#

this is not a partisan argument by the way

#

I guess....

#

not being a laptop user

#

I've never overheated a hard drive

#

I dunno if I've ever been nice, I've never seeded torrents or made a bunch of video files but im certainly an above average abuser

#

anyway not about me just anecdotes

earnest osprey
#

I think ssds care more about heat than hdds

#

The non magnetic temperature of the platers is like 1000 C, so you could burn your hdd and still get the data off it lol

#

At like

#

White hot temperature

#

Yes

#

The fact that you can get it quite hot is part of how hamr drives work

#

Uh hdd I think

#

It's just a normal hdd with a laser

#

So I guess, life of the laser would matter

#

The write head?

#

Yeah it's both

#

Hamr drive heats the platter just before the write head gets to it

thick elk
#

anyway just going to bed now

earnest osprey
#

Hamr still has the write head

#

But an added laser gets a cell sized region hot, meaning a smaller magnetic cell can be writen

#

Reading doesn't need the heating

#

Yeah

#

100TB 600MB/s hdds though, imagine

feral jolt
#

ive had several SSD's die

#

mainly 128's that i was constantly moving large amounts of data through

earnest osprey
#

My 850 pro was flaky for a bit but I think it was because the sata cable was loose

feral jolt
#

huh

earnest osprey
#

I mean the write head is inside the hdd case

#

You know what the inside of an hdd looks like right?

#

Polar coords are pretty great for locating cells

#

I think a slider is less compact

#

The arm is pretty tiny

#

It's easier to keep track of the rotation of the arm

#

Than it would be the translation of a slider

#

Head crashing can be partly the fault of the platter bearing dying

#

Making the platters wobble

#

Also the distance between the head and the platter would have to stay the same

#

A slider could still also wobble

#

Mechanical parts are hell any way you look at them haha

#

Exactly

#

Though im sure plenty of people are working on making hdds more and more reliable

#

Cells?

#

Ah

#

Cell is just, one spot in the chip

wheat plume
#

I just found out you can maximise the window by double clicking the application name in the active window control widget

#

thats a useless piece of info for me cause I have keybindings

pale sigil
#

Anyone wanna buy a brand new 7700k lul

ashen spindle
#

sure

#

I'll give you 3 bucks for it

#

v-bucks obviously

plush summit
#

XD

zenith sonnet
#

@pale sigil Intel scrambling to keep customers, even at a loss thonk

#

New AMD Chipset driver for Ryzen 3000 brings about 2% FPS in games on the 3900X 👌

crimson wigeon
#

Something is always better than nothing

crimson wigeon
#

Writing changelogs is hard

wheat plume
#

Indeed
Cough cough Google Play store

pale sigil
zenith sonnet
#

@proud nacelle It's about as much as the 9900k was faster than the 3900X on launch reviews

plush summit
#

Not cool

earnest osprey
#

The number of cuda cores dont even match

#

Though it's a slight downgrade

#

so I guess that kind of makes sense?

#

but why not sell them as is lol

feral jolt
#

What would the flashing do? Change max freq?

earnest osprey
#

and disable some cuda

#

and maybe adjust tdp

gaunt fern
#

Magnets sound too error-prone though

#

oh thinkeyes

wheat plume
#

Time to ditch Manjaro

crimson wigeon
wheat plume
#

Oh my xd

gaunt fern
karmic grail
#

So my friend (that originally lent me the 1080ti) just said I could have his 1080ti

#

I don't know how to respond

golden girder
#

You should be happy and pleased.
And hug him...

timid chasm
#

offer him a handy j

karmic grail
#

I'll take the second option

timid chasm
#

I consider that the second option

karmic grail
#

yes

pale sigil
#

Gg

#

Free 1080ti

karmic grail
#

free 1080ti + 340$ from selling 1070

fallow bison
#

give him a fry

#

1 single fry

wheat plume
#

o?

ashen spindle
#

1 single fry electronics shop yes?

warped dove
#

it's a scam

#

he hid a virus in your 1080ti

#

it's called Wasted20s

reef patrol
wheat plume
#

Yeh, you can manually go about the time it takes to install the libreoffice suite, and then remove all the other ones

#

No! They arent getting any money from this

#

This is a no money deal

#

idk why tf it is happening

#

They are?

reef patrol
#

Motherfudger.... iTunes managed to take up 50GB on my drive somehow

pale sigil
#

ITunes lul

reef patrol
#

I use it on rare occasions to back up iPhones at work.

#

Didn't realize it doesn't clean up...ever.

feral jolt
#

Yeah iTunes is an awful program

pale sigil
#

Aren't they discontinuing it on Windows

feral jolt
#

Foobar and VLC satisfy all my media needs

pale sigil
#

I hate having to rely on it just so i can use my IPad

#

Like sometimes i cannot legit access my IPad

#

without it

feral jolt
#

Not buying an iPad is what I call a pro gamer move

pale sigil
#

i disagree

#

at least

#

if you get them cheaper

#

fuck apple prices

feral jolt
#

Seems like theres a lot of cheap generic android pads

pale sigil
#

Android tabs are shite

feral jolt
#

At least you dont have to use itunes

pale sigil
#

Thats about it

earnest osprey
#

Yeah if you want something like an ipad.. you will be disapointed with literally anything else. Android tablets feel like a phone with the wrong screen size

feral jolt
#

I kind of want some kind of tablet for my computer desk

#

I'm sick of either having to alt tab or use my phone while I'm gaming

pale sigil
#

Well

#

Samsung seems to actually give a shit

#

for this

earnest osprey
#

Is taking your hands off the keyboard to use a tablet better than taking your hands off to use a phone?

feral jolt
#

$am$ung tho

#

Taking my hands off is fine. Really just want a bigger screen/kb and to not have to alt tab

earnest osprey
#

I find tablet typing slower

feral jolt
#

Some games let me shift tab to steam overlay and wont close in borderless windowed mode

earnest osprey
#

Than on my phone where I can just use my thumbs

pale sigil
#

Tablet typing is much slower

feral jolt
#

What about with the folding kb

earnest osprey
#

I would rather alt tab at that point lol

feral jolt
#

Fug maybe I should just get a laptop. I'm about to start school again so it would be nice to have there

#

Just need a place to set it up

#

Adjustability would be really nice

#

But not necessary. I guess any ol end table will work

earnest osprey
#

I know,

#

Wait hold on

#

Is Simplicity able to transfer the mouse between computers if you are tabbed in to a game?

feral jolt
#

I'm pretty ambidextrous I was thinking I could manage the laptop with left hand

#

I do have an old mouse I could use but touchpad seems easier

earnest osprey
#

One hand touch and type is doable on a laptop so that could work

feral jolt
#

Time to find a good zen 2 laptop I guess

#

Guess not they are overpriced

#

Why is it impossible to find a laptop with a terabyte nvme for a reasonable price

#

Guess I'll have to install it myself 🤷

wheat plume
#

They are working on making KDE Connect for Mac and Windows 10!!!!!!

#

Hurray for all Android users ahaha!

earnest osprey
#

Woah

wheat plume
#

i use the shared clipboard, media control and sending files betweebn devices the most

#

I dont get enough phone calls and texts to take advantage of replying from the PC

wheat plume
#

Makes sense

fallow bison
#

Touch the chip directly instead

fickle ore
#

Does any nerd know whether mice button clicks would need to be matrix scanned same as keys on keyboards?

zenith sonnet
#

Koduri said that he wants to replicate AMD's strategy of capturing high-volume price-points, such as the $199 Radeon RX 480. The plan here is to bring an affordable, good performing GPU to the masses - "GPUs for everyone" as he calls them. Additionally, he states that Intel's current strategy revolves around price, not performance, providing best possible value to consumers.

#

Aaaaand it's nothing

fickle ore
#

intel drivers lul gl

crimson wigeon
#

Hmm.. Intel drivers are fairly decent on Linux

#

Meanwhile on Windows they get abandoned seemingly immediately

spark horizon
#

or harvest the heat to cook steak on chip

pale sigil
#

@proud nacelle

latent mural
#

Hey guys, I just joined the server.

I’m a french 16yo and I want to know if building a mechanical keyboard is hard for someone who’ve never touched at tech.

Thanks 😉

feral jolt
#

why do you want to build?

#

you could just buy a hot swappable keyboard

earnest osprey
#

I guess it depends if you mean soldering switches onto a pcb, soldering and building a kit, or getting what conan said

latent mural
earnest osprey
#

It's pretty simple in that case

latent mural
#

Ok thanks 😃 just wanted to know if it’s accessible for me.

earnest osprey
#

Lol.

#

what temp did it say?

karmic grail
#

Got another free gpu from a friend

#

Sapphire R7 370

#

Into dads PC it goes

#

sends virtual F

#

Great now it won't post

#

What

#

Discord has a 8mb photo limit now?

#

Task manager show me where my 4 slots of ram is

#

Weird I used to be able to take pics from my phone and send them directly

#

Now I have to crop them to send

earnest osprey
#

Did you get a new phone or turn on hdr?

latent mural
#

Do you think if they worked on it the huntsman elite could also have pressure sensitive LED?

earnest osprey
#

It uses beam breaking so it's not really the same thing

latent mural
#

Oh gotcha

#

wasn't there some game that was able to tell how hard you pressed the keys on it?

#

Some racing game

earnest osprey
#

There is nothing analog about that keyboard

plush summit
#

450 watt PSU with r7 390

#

What

zenith sonnet
#

It's a 370?

wheat plume
#

I want to use 1.1.1.1 dns

thick elk
#

Just so you know networkmanager overwrites resolv.conf also as configured the default nameserver of your router is generally used first

wheat plume
#

yeh, it overwrite it on reboot -.-

#

anyway to make it permanent?

#

aghghghg

plush summit
#

Wait why did you go back to ubuntu

thick elk
#

Generally using something like openresolv or just stting it via networkmanager is permanent

plush summit
#

I understand manjaro embrace the proprietary bullshit but why didn't you try arch

wheat plume
#

I am not on Ubuntu

#

shudders

zenith sonnet
#

Use Windows? It's literally just two clicks to set DNS :p

wheat plume
#

But I hope I wont need to reinstall it becauer I want to keep using Libreoffice

thick elk
#

Setting it via networkmanager is about as much work as in windows. Actually maybe even less work

#

Edit connection click on the ipv4 tab and set the nameservers

wheat plume
#

i did that there but after I pressed apply and left it reset it back to automatic

thick elk
#

I think you have to set it to automatic address only or something

#

I use openresolv with resolvconf.conf myself

wheat plume
#

resolveconf.conf
I dont have that I have /etc/resolv.conf only

thick elk
#

The packages openresolv contains that from memory

wheat plume
#

package 1 is what I should pick I assume

#

wait I have it

#

-.-

#

I do have resolvconf.conf

thick elk
#

Bit different formatting but yes
Afterthat you update the resolv.conf with resolvconf -u

wheat plume
#

name_server instead of nameserver

Yeh yeh

#

ok lemme try,
it is fine to leave the other file edited too?

thick elk
#

Probably

wheat plume
#

ok, I reconnected again

thick elk
#

Ultimatly whatever ends up in resolv.conf is what gets applied

wheat plume
#

there is "Access Point" mode too

thick elk
#

You can even in some cases yse the same adapter both to connect and as an access point

wheat plume
#

no idea ifthis worked

ashen spindle
#

you ask why and have one answer two sentences later lol

wheat plume
#
  1. Security + Bug fixes
  2. New features that they wanted to be added
#

Good luck applying that to things like photo or video editors

#

they always get new features

#

most people just takes updates for those things as meh it happens

#

not OMFH NEW UPDATE YASS

#

How many people actually use fluxbox?

#

O.o

#

yehh

ashen spindle
#

if you dont see any updates to make it work with never versions of an os or so it's quite normal to assume its dead imo

wheat plume
#

but maintaining causes updates to happen

#

Yes quin

ashen spindle
#

not really?

wheat plume
#

I want to use ZorinOS
but their version of gnome is so old now -.- they are on 3.28 still ://

ashen spindle
#

since you cant really futureproof your tool to work on a fork that doesnt even exist yet for example

#

and it might still work, but what if it has a bug or security issues that isnt well known but nobody updates the tool so it wont ever get fixed

earnest osprey
#

Like what happened to winrar

#

Winrar got fixed

#

And windows can't deal with .rar files

ashen spindle
#

then I still can say as a user the software is dead? why should I care if maintainer or dev should make it work?

#

you're going away from your original point

#

are you on about something specific?

#

if I see another software that does the same but just 1 small thing more I can at least assume it's newer, maybe has some performance increase or bug fix that the other tool doesnt have since its dead?

#

if there is something else that does the same shit, then why does it matter that nobody else uses the old stuff that also still works?

earnest osprey
#

A nicer looking piece of software is a reason to upgrade

ashen spindle
#

okay but why do you care if people stop using older software that still works

#

is there any reason to use it over newer stuff?

earnest osprey
#

I'm going to use the one that looks better if they are otherwise the same

#

Sometimes the new one is faster or easier to use, while doing the same thing

ashen spindle
#

okay its like a 50/50 if the newer or older stuff has more issues

#

so that works both ways

earnest osprey
#

Yes, no one ever makes a good piece of software ever, got it

sick creek
#

sometimes outdated software stops working, dont forget that

ashen spindle
#

you're saying "sometimes software is bad" which applies just as much to old versions as it does to new ones

#

now you're going towards whatever specific types of software you use/read about since that isnt universally true

earnest osprey
#

Nah

sick creek
#

“From what i’m seeing” lebowski

earnest osprey
#

There is always someone saying "going down hill" or "downward spiral"

#

No matter how rapidly it's improving or growing

sick creek
#

Y’all realize mage crossed his arms and made up his mind quite a while ago lol

earnest osprey
#

Apparently

ashen spindle
#

okay, I'm looking at paint, a tool microsoft wanted to remove, it still works, has barely no issues. I can do the same things in paint3d but do 3d work too

#

tell me how using paint3d is bad

earnest osprey
#

Paint but 3d

ashen spindle
#

yeah lets conveniently forget stuff like DirectX 11 wouldn't even work on win xp and your games couldnt use it, or that win10 has an actually good windows defender that works

#

I'm very happy that I can tell friends or family who know nothing about shit that they can just install windows and dont need to care about an anti virus etc.

#

I literally just said people "who know nothing"

#

I did not say senior IT admins

#

I know you cant believe it, but not every person would be able to navigate through linux even if you set it up for them on a pc

earnest osprey
#

Most people panick the moment they see a command line

ashen spindle
#

"just google " only works if you know how to actually look for something

earnest osprey
#

It took me long enough to figure out how to change directories in cmd

wheat plume
#

Give someone linux mint or perhaps kde plasma and they could get their work done if all they need is a web browser and a text efitor and office suite

#

the layout is fairly similar and the apps have the traditional menu bar + titlebar combo that windows does

ashen spindle
#

you think if someone already struggles on windows if anything ever breaks, has any error or anything, they could fix it on linux?

wheat plume
#

they wont get an error using those apps

#

I dont get errors myself and I tweak tf out of plasma

#

you can set up a cron job for updates for them so they dont have to do anything also

earnest osprey
#

That just sounds like a lot of work to set up for them

wheat plume
#

Toss them onto ElementaryOS then

ashen spindle
#

what if internet connection has issues, and you need to change a setting that you easily see on windows but google result shows images on windows only

wheat plume
#

its basically unbreakable by default

ashen spindle
#

we're not arguing about weather linux is good/bad/useable at all

wheat plume
#

I know

earnest osprey
#

It's just harder to figure out what to do if you don't understand something in the os

wheat plume
#

lol, I asked my cousin once to try to launch minecraft on my i3 setup

#

he tried to press the super key and it didnt do anything so he got confused

#

ofc he would

#

he needs to know the binding I had for rofi

earnest osprey
#

Lol

wheat plume
#

pressing the super key on my current plasma setup does nothing either

#

I use krunner if I need to open things that arent on my dock

earnest osprey
#

I like windows + search to find things

#

But I'm sure I could figure out how to navigate the file manager in linux

wheat plume
#

/home/username/<documents> <pictures> etc etc

earnest osprey
#

I just think windows + search is faster so I would want to set up something like that in linux

wheat plume
#

faster than rofi 😆

#

nah

#

well who knows

earnest osprey
#

One key and start typing?

#

enter when it comes up

wheat plume
#

thats the same on plasma by default, and gnome and any desktop with a menu

earnest osprey
#

Alright

wheat plume
#

actually, IMO gnome has the best multitasking view ever made, you just press the super key and it shows you everything you have open on each desktop, your column of desktops on the side and you can immediately type to open an new app or search for files too

#

I wish plasma had that, but plasma is more traditional with its app menu and search bar located in the menu

earnest osprey
#

Holding tab

#

On windows

wheat plume
#

huh?

earnest osprey
#

Alt + hold tab

wheat plume
#

thats on every desktop

earnest osprey
#

I figured

#

There is also a task view but windows doesn't have an obvious keybind for it

#

That's one thing I actually like about macos, its a literal dedicated key

wheat plume
#

the overview on plasma is so shit -.-

#

but.....we do have the over thje top desktop cube!!

ashen spindle
#

more security adds to making it bigger/slower, just like DX11 if it even is possible to port that there

#

privacy only really is a thing to worry with win10, the others are all kinda the same

#

well yeah.... but you still need to support both so it adds more to the resource usage...

wheat plume
#

Isn't GTK meant to stand for GNOME Took Kit?

#

It gimp toolkit xd

#

Oh......

#

It is giml toolkit

ashen spindle
#

vvWhat are you serious

#

if you have files to support dx9 and dx11 you are having more files around as if you only support one

#

im not saying dx11 uses more than dx9 or whatever

#

we're talking about the os since you brought that up as an example

#

well hopefully you dont have a cpu with many cores since you'd also dont want a thread scheduler as it seems rooSip

#

since that is just adding resources usage

#

sure but even running discord will then lower your pefroamce since you cant move any of that to a different core than the one the game is using for example

#

and we already are at the point where you see drastic increases in 1% lows if you compare games on cpus with SMT on/off

#

far cry for example gets a lot smoother if you have more cores

#

idk, sounds a lot like scheduling threads to me rooSip

ashen spindle
#

idk im just throwing out some random improvements the never windows versions made since according to you the never versions only add less security and more resource usage for nothing

pale sigil
#

Linux sucks

ashen spindle
#

go away we arent even talking about linux roo4

pale sigil
#

Ok

ashen spindle
#

okay, just based on what happens to you or what?

#

on idling on desktop?

#

are you on a single core cpu?

wheat plume
#

that doesnt seem right , even windows 10 isnt that power hungry :/

ashen spindle
#

I mean you are using a sample size of 1 to say "this version of windows is worse" without any context

#

you never said its only based on your machine

wheat plume
#

and all the blur effects

ashen spindle
#

oh sorry, so you are at a 0.00000003% sample size

wheat plume
#

O.o

ashen spindle
#

okay, then why dont you say its a common issue when I ask instead of saying "no its not just me, also the other pc in my family"

wheat plume
#

what

crimson wigeon
#

You pick the one that matches your kernel version

wheat plume
#

I did that before but then it never worked properly when I launched a VM

crimson wigeon
#

Or dkms, or learn to use KVM

wheat plume
#

Idid this time to see if that could work

#

I installed it, I think, but idk how to use

#

oh, that was on my last install

#

welp

#

i love that man man is a legit command

#

😂

#

its also the most detailed man page I have seen so far

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our lecturer showed us the [ command in class one day

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yeh it is

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i just found out about man []

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yeh

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thats what it does

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idk why

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ikr

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O.o

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the same page opens when I do man mail 🤔

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confused af now

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o?

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seems legit

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idk

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wait....

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pacman

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rlly

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wtf

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ok

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i read that as pamac and thought to myself i dont see the issue with remving pamac

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then I read that again and saw it said pacman

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im fairly sure I have some form of dyslexia -.- i get leters and numbers mixed up a lot

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anyway nvm

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yeh true true

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how would you remove pacman? sudo pacman -R pacman ?

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welp

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yay would still work though I assume

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thats why I assume

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idk if it does or not

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The right click menu on Chrome is white, yet I have a dark theme enabled 🤔

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hmm

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Chrome is very good at following GTK theme

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tbh

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considering it is not open source

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there isnt

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it doesnt matter much, most websites are white af anyway

earnest osprey
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Linuxtechtips

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Lmao

wheat plume
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😂

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pppffft

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The Mi A2 had a 1080p screen

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Why doesnt the Mi A3? ;-;

latent mural
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wheat plume
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oo

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bamboo case, really pretty

latent mural
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Thanks x)

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Do I need stabilizers?

wheat plume
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definetly for the space bar

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and if you habe the larger enter key

latent mural
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ok

wheat plume
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im not a keyboard pro, but I know that you must have those on the spacebar at least xd

latent mural
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And it's like I put the switches into the PCB? I don't have to use glue right?

wheat plume
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that, i do not know

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;-;

latent mural
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ok x)

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Hot Swapable probably mean that I don't have to

wheat plume
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but if its hot swappable I assume you just push them in

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yeh

reef patrol
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If you want more indepth help and possible alternatives, hop over to the MechanicalKeys discord

thick elk
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I see the channel name got upgraded

ashen spindle
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finally no more phone talk kek

wheat plume
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;))

thick elk
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but but android runs linux as kernel

ashen spindle
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rescCop hold it right there sir

wheat plume
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but but all da googlz bloat

reef patrol
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How about dem Apple peecees?

wheat plume
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Catalina looks neat tbh

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and they got rid of that messy bloated iTunes!!

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3 single purpose apps instead

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mm much cleaner

ashen spindle
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not on windows

wheat plume
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true.....

spark horizon
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@latent mural

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pick up a cable? most pcbs don't come with one

latent mural
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@spark horizon good idea xd

spark horizon
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the gk64 has a kind of weird situation with the stabs

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you would normally put 2u stabs on the left shift, right shift, enter, backspace, and spacebar

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*6.5u stab on spacebar

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*6.25

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but the pcb doesn't have holes for the stab on the left shift

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so if you do want a stab, you'll have to use plate mount

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it's fine if you don't want a stab on the left shift though

shell rover
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has anyone lubed the switches on the W2? or does anyone know if it can be done?

reef patrol
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Same process as the Wooting 1 - So people have definitely done it.

shell rover
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i dont know too much about it but i know you have to take apart all the switches. would i have to de solder them from the board?

ashen spindle
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well given that the switches are hot swappable and not soldered, I doubt that :p

shell rover
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oh shit. ok so they just pop out. cool thanks

reef patrol
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The orange keycap puller has one side specifically for removing switches 😃

shell rover
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sweet. thanks guys

reef patrol
shell rover
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any recommendations for a switch opener?

fallow bison
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Those are all sold out though

pale sigil
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i hate oppening switches

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its a nightmare

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not because its hard

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but because its a slow af process

shell rover
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i was goin to get the aluminum buts its sold out as you said.

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im going with the Kii Boss

spark horizon
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I use a thin screwdriver with a thick handle

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Insert into space, quick turn and it slips off

still cave
reef patrol
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Because his Minecraft videos got old and dull.

wheat plume
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creeper

plush summit
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@pale sigil ban lana

pale sigil
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l

wheat plume
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;-;

wheat plume
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writing python code to interpret packets sent by the game to the server to determine when the player changes weapons and uses them adn what weapon they are using and what position they are in

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damn this is OP

ashen spindle
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for what purpose though

wheat plume
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to complete the challenges in the game

ashen spindle
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ah so just practice

wheat plume
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it was a challenge given in a competition, but i think this series is for him to practise

glad scroll
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LiveOverflow is 👌

solar hinge
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@pale sigil have you noticed with the "latest" version of teamviewer that there are restrictions on how often you can use the free version?

reef patrol
pale sigil
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@solar hinge stopped using shittyview months ago

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use vnc

solar hinge
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i'll have a look in a bit

pale sigil
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geforce now just keeps getting worse and worse

plush summit
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Just like the real girlfriend experience

crimson wigeon
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Perhaps it's time to force it out of your computer

pale sigil
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I need it to play games atm

crimson wigeon
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At least it's still free

pale sigil
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Aye

pale sigil
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Reeeeeee

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Windows updates rebooted my laptop

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Kys windows

wheat plume
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it still does that?

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thought it gave you an option now

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hmm 🤔

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did they remove that yet again?

pale sigil
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I kept delaying it but eventually it fucks your over

wheat plume
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o.o

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ooohh

pale sigil
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My laptop is like a month behind 😭

wheat plume
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oh damn

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idk how long mine might be behind, im on the insider builds and I havent booted up windows in like 2 months

pale sigil
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Meh, well I'm stuck with windows for a few days